WarRoom Battleground EP 178： The Chaos Of Maricopa
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On this episode of War Room, host Stephen K. Baughman sits down with reporter Kary Lake to discuss the ongoing saga of Arizona's election tabulation system, and how it's been handled by the state election board.
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If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians
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It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
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This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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...stands or sort of the state of Carrie Lake's disinformation as she stands, still a very,
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very decent chant, and she's very much still in this.
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When Tim was actually here at the Tabulation Center with me yesterday, I know that he could
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He could feel the tension that was in the room.
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And largely that was because, you know, you have the likes of Chairman Bill Gates.
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These are the elections folks here who have overseen these elections, fair, accurate ones,
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They have been at the epicenter of everything that Trumpism, Donald Trump and his allies
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leaving phone calls and voicemails for him to pressure them to help overturn the 2020 election.
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And now, yet again, they're at the center of this.
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And that is where, when we were in the room yesterday, I think there was some tension and
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frustration over the slow release of the ballots.
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And there's no reason to suggest that it is for nothing other than to make sure that
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it's secure and that each of the mail ballots were, in fact, sent in by individuals who go
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But what happens as a result is exactly what you guys were speaking about, is when you have
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that open space and that open air, it's folks like Cary Lake that go and fill that void there
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that call into question, why is this slow walking?
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Mark Fincham, I don't urge people to go to his Twitter account, but my goodness, every hour
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you come up with a new conspiracy theory, his latest this hour, was suggesting that why
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does the Republican state treasurer candidate, Kimberly Yee, have 215,000 more votes than
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Well, I can tell you, as somebody who has been covering Kimberly Yee for years, that she's
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walked much more of a straight line, Doug Ducey-type conservative role here.
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And it wouldn't surprise most folks who have covered here politics.
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But for Mark Fincham, he goes and tells his hundreds of thousands of followers who are following
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him on, whether it be Twitter or far-right elements of the internet, that there's a conspiracy
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and that the folks here behind me who are simply going and adjudicating and making sure
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that these ballots are legitimate, and this nice woman here who is putting in the ballots
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into the tabulation machine, are some part of a conspiracy.
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And that is where the hope is, at some point here, that we are able to close that void there.
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Because in the meanwhile, it's these folks who are creating these conspiracy theories as
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Vaughn, I know you're getting pulled, but let me just ask you one question.
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You know, these are the same people who had eternal patience for the fraud-it, you know,
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the, what were they called, cyber ninjas, took weeks and months.
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I want to, if you could just, for our viewers who are not hostage to any of the disinformation,
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Also, to give you an idea here, it was this last state legislature that came within one
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vote of arresting the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors because they refused to turn
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over the ballots to the gang that was completing that so-called audit here.
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But the process that is underway here, number one, their signature verification process.
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So all these mail ballots, especially, that was 290,000 that were dropped off in person.
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They are going and comparing the signatures on the envelopes of the individuals who, those
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They are then going against, whether it be the DMV database, whatever signature they have
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on file to confirm that that signature matches the one that is within the state records here.
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We've also got the adjudication board, these folks here.
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So if there is something wrong, there's a fold in the ballot, a spill, ink that goes outside
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A Republican and a Democrat are going ballot by ballot to go and confirm what, that these
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ballots are legitimate and what the intent was.
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We're in battleground Friday, 11th, November, the year of order, 2022.
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Armistice day in Europe, veterans day here in the, in the United States.
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Want to welcome and have everybody, all the veterans, a hat tip to all of you guys.
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Hat tip to maybe get Captain Bannon on, maybe in the second part of the show, talk about
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So if he can just hang on it, he's going to give us an update, uh, which is going to
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infuriate a lot of this audience, but we got a cold open for Joe that I also want to talk
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So much going on right now, but I want to bring in the political director for Carrie
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Lake's team, um, the Brady Smith, uh, Brady, uh, thank you very much for joining us.
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We actually played it in the, in the previous hour because they make it seem like, um,
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uh, you know, you guys are instigators, you guys are insurrectionists, you guys are domestic
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What, what do you guys just want an accurate count?
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Um, but I think you'd like things sped up, correct?
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We are just wanting all legal votes to be counted in this race.
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It's, it's crucial that, that we do this and make sure that all legal votes were counted.
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Uh, you know, this, this pace is slower than we were anticipating.
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Originally, we were told the same day drop-offs in Maricopa County, we're going to be coming
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in, uh, as early as Thursday, potentially as early as Wednesday.
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And now here we are, uh, sitting on Friday and, and the Maricopa County recorder's office
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Currently I'm sitting in the Carrie Lake war room right now.
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Um, and they are saying that there is going to be a drop tonight that will contain some
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of those same day drop-off votes, uh, that will be very favorable to Carrie Lake.
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They say that's going to be the majority of the drop, as well as, uh, the 17,000 door
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three votes, um, that have been largely in question and that there are questions still
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swirling around, but our campaign is just wanting every legal vote to be counted.
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And that's what we're committed to having happen.
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And by the way, if we can see, if we can watch on the live stream, the, uh, press conference,
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We got a lot more questions to ask him as a press conference going on in Maricopa County.
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There are a lot of moving pieces all over the nation.
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Um, Joe Kent, uh, let me get, bring in Joe first.
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I want to ask him a couple of questions and then I'll go to the cold open Joe.
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Uh, we've heard some news today that yours is actually going slower than we thought.
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Um, is, am I hearing now that we're not going to get a drop anymore today in, in Washington
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three, we're not going to get one tomorrow, Saturday, we're not going to get one Sunday
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and we're not going to get one Monday until 6 PM Pacific standard time.
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Well, we just got a small drop actually right after I texted you that news.
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It was less than 5,000 votes since they dropped.
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Um, we think there may be another drop coming tonight of 20 K coming from the county.
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Now the secretary of state, they did take the holiday off and they're not going to report
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So we're, you're correct in that we may get Clark County might, um, go ahead and report
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on their own website tonight, but that's the status right now.
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So hopefully they actually dropped 20,000 tonight and we'll have a little bit more clarity.
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And, and by the way, you've cut this thing dramatically over the last couple of days.
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We had Alex de Grasse on the last hour and there, I think in the, in the team, Elise and
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the NRCC, they're actually counting you as a, as a win, um, on the 20,000 that come in
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tonight, tell our audience where the, where is that coming from?
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Um, and, and do you consider a break of a 57% to be a possibility or 55, 45?
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Uh, we're hoping to take, you know, 56, 57% of that.
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There's also some rural parts of Clark County as well.
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We believe this is mostly going to be game day voters.
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So, you know, fingers crossed, knock on wood, that this should trend heavily towards us.
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Um, but you know, we'll, we'll stand by and see what happens.
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Ballot curing and walk people through that process.
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What, what's this process called ballot curing?
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People need to go to, uh, all my social media, Joe Kent, uh, one, one nine, or go to wavote.gov
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If it doesn't say accepted and it says rejected, then you need to go down to the County Auditor's
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office, present ID, and you can get your ballot sorted out right there.
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Don't wait for them to contact you because they may drag their feet on that process.
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If people have any questions, they can get ahold of us and we'll talk them through.
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We can give them a ride down to the County Auditor's office if they need.
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So it looks like a 20,000, um, ballot drop tonight.
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You've been as high as I think almost five and a half, 5.6, 5.7.
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You're under 5,000 votes difference between you and your opponent.
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Steve, like right at 5,000 is the difference between us 1.1 and 1.93.
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So we're, we're definitely making ground with every drop.
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And do you have any idea when the timing of this drop tonight?
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Sometimes they come as early as four and then sometimes they're as late as 830 out here on
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So I'll, I'll ping you as soon as we get any word.
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And what, once again, what's your social media so people can follow this?
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Cause we have hundreds of thousands that are watching your, uh, your progress here.
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Uh, Joe Kent, one six J a N one nine on Twitter, get her on all the, all the different social
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That's where you have a screenshot to all the ways to cure your ballot.
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We've got ballot curing teams out there right now.
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So I got an army West pointer out there knocking on doors, ballot curing for us right now.
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Joe, if you just give me another minute, I want to play a quick cold open.
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Cause you're actually coming back for the orientation over the weekend.
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You do in terms of the economy, but she said, I hope there won't be two years of investigations.
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I think we've really gotten off track and we've, we've seen that.
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And that's why voters came out, especially in Virginia and our second district, because
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they weren't happy with the direction of things.
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And we heard that time and time again at the doors, you know, something is off, something
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It's going to be a unified effort, but Republicans are going to need to be unified, especially
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I think we'll have a slimmer majority than we may have hoped.
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So it's going to be really important that, that, that messaging going forward of, you
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know, how can we, how can we help where people would need the help, which is in the economy
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and at the border in our communities, you know, how are we going to be unified?
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If I could on the issue of investigations, would you support house investigations of Hunter
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So what I'm focused on are the issues that why we won, why we won in this district was because
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of the economy, because we really sought to tell people, Hey, we're going to help
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We're going to be able to put more money in your pocketbook and lower those gas and grocery
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And that's where my focus is the economy, the border in our communities and families.
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That's where my focus has been and will continue to be.
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Joe Kent, you've been, your whole campaign was about the economy, families, the border,
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the invasion on the Southern border, all of it.
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But do you think that Congress can, can walk and chew gum at the same time?
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Do you think you also have your oversight responsibilities and investigations, particularly into the
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laptop from hell, the Southern border, Fauci, all this, you think that's also a responsibility
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at Congress when, when you show up as a freshman congressman, sir?
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There's plenty of us to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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I mean, Jim Banks was on here yesterday talking about HR one, getting us back to being energy
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That will benefit the American people almost immediately.
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We're going to stop the out of control spending.
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But yeah, we are also going to go after this corrupt regime.
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We're going to impeach Biden for what he did in the Southern border.
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They hired us to stop what Biden is doing to the country.
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They hired us to actually get them some real information, some real, some real results
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and just absolutely adjudicate everything that's been inflicted upon us for the last
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two plus years, even further, if we go back and we're going to start going after Fauci as
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But yeah, we can fight the hard fight of investigations and we can fix the economy.
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We can fix the border and we can protect our children all at the same time.
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We're going to watch this very closely tonight on Getter and other places.
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I know Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, the War Room, Grace Chung, the War Room Posse, Captain
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Okay, Joe Kent, these are fighting, the fighting spirit of these people, particularly
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They knew this was coming because for the first time you had the, in the primary, you
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They understand that Trump voters are different than his voters historically in Arizona that
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People have a lot of problem trust in the mail-in ballot system.
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Why were they not prepared for this onslaught of game day voting?
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Both either people dropping off the ballots or just showing up and voting in person.
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Because we hear all the time from the mainstream media how great Bill Gates and his team are.
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Well, Steve, you're absolutely right that we did see the writing on the wall of this in
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The ballots, of course, broke very heavily for Carrie Lake in the primary for those same
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But to your question of why were they not prepared here, I think it just goes back to
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the incompetence that we see in the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.
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You know, we knew that there would be a large turnout of those same day drop-off votes.
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And actually, we ended up breaking the previous record by 70 percent.
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Now, I want to remind your listeners that in 2020, the same day drop-offs in the 2020 election
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were favorable for President Trump by a 13 percent margin.
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So these are going to break extremely heavily our way.
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And these are people who, you know, do not want to place that mail-in ballot that they
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received at their address back into the USPS system.
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They don't want to take it to a drop-box location.
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They want to bring it into the vote center because they, you know, have some questions
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And you and I both know that the gal running the system, Katie Hobbs, the Secretary of State
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So, of course, they're not going to trust the system.
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Of course, they're going to walk these ballots in.
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And to Maricopa County's under-preparedness, I think it really sheds a huge light that Bill
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Gates and Stephen Richard were not ready for this.
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And that is resulting in delays that are frustrating, not just Arizonans, but Americans all across
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I mean, you had your campaign was run flawlessly.
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But what blew me away, and I told people, because you had your advance teams were guys from
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And the size of the crowds and the professional was unbelievable.
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So they should have known something was coming because Kerry kept talking about, you know,
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and Mike Lindell, this whole theory that you wait and come, you vote on game day, you vote
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But when this thing all went down, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought they told us by
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I know we promised other days, but they said it's all going to be done by Friday.
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Wasn't that what they put out at first, sir, that Friday would be the day?
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And I think they just said, I don't know what they're saying in the press conference right
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now, but they said the other day that, hey, we might not even have the majority.
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We will have the majority of the Maricopa County done by Monday or Tuesday of next week.
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So didn't they promise this to be wrapped up by today?
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They have insinuated that it's possible that this would be done by today.
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This has been, you know, consistently, they're moving the goalpost.
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Um, and they, they have not given much color as to why the goalpost continues to move on
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this, but, uh, Maricopa County, uh, has not given us a concrete answer on when they're
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going to be completely done counting the votes yet.
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Um, but we are going to see a chunk of those same day drop-offs come in tonight that they
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will favor carry Lake and we will see carry Lake pick up both, uh, in the drop that is
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going to come tonight sometime in the eight o'clock hour, uh, Arizona time.
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That'll be 10 o'clock Eastern, uh, standard, uh, time.
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Do you think that this is, um, you know, Steve Cortez, who's watches this very closely, Steve
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Cortez said this is to demoralize and exhaust the, uh, the deplorables and the carry Lake,
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um, and the carry Lake, um, uh, movement that this is, it can't just be total incompetence
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They were under a microscope, you know, and Gates came up and said, Hey, this is just the
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way we do things in Arizona, but that was supposed to be that they were supposed to take out the
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flaws and get down and be able to do it efficiently.
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Do you think this is a demoralized and exhaust people?
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Because when people forget in, in the primary, carry Lake was down, I think by 10, 12, 13 points
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around 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock local time, and she was getting tremendous pressure from her opponent
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And, you know, and these were national professionals on her team for carry Lake.
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And you remember this, you were one of the people coming under pressure.
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They were putting a tremendous pressure on you guys to concede when, when, when it looked like,
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you know, you're getting close to midnight and she's 10 down, but, and carry Lake was saying,
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Like she said the other night, no, no, no, no, no, this is going to flip.
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And I think three or four o'clock in the morning, it flipped, but they took their time and slow
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walk it carry Lake and people forget this carry Lake one by five, five and a half percent on
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the primary and never really got a full credit of that.
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Are they trying to demoralize and exhaust you by drawing it out?
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So carry Lake never gets her moment in the international media and carry Lake never gets
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that big moment where she walks on stage and takes this victory.
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Carry Lake never has a celebratory nature of this massive victory.
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The thing is it's a nail biter, nail biter, nail biter.
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So if the votes come in, like you guys analyze, she wins by 5%.
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Do you think there's some design to this more than just their regular incompetence, sir?
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Well, Steve, I would say, uh, I have, I've not seen anything that would suggest that there's
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Um, I've learned to, to never underestimate the incompetence.
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However, um, it runs rampant through the County, through the County recorder's office.
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Uh, but should that have been the case, which I am not insinuating that it is, I really don't
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think there's any actual malice or ill will intent in this delay, but even if it was, uh,
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This is just amplifying, uh, you know, carry Lake is on every channel, everywhere you go.
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Like you just said, though, all eyes in the world are on Arizona right now.
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So, um, I do not think there's malice behind this.
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I think, uh, it comes down to under preparedness and incompetence, uh, but it has amplified and
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all eyes are on Arizona and all eyes are on future governor carry Lake as a result.
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Uh, number one, and when I went around and saw these crowds and these were massive crowds,
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I mean, I, I was quite frankly blown away by the size and scale of this campaign.
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For a, uh, for a gut, for an off year governor's race, it was just extraordinary.
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It was almost like presidential level, uh, presidential level for anybody, but Donald
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Trump, I mean, any presidential candidate would have been blown away to have the scale
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and the size and the intensity of the crowds, but they were peaceful, good people would wait
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When you see Maricopa County tabulation center, they have, you know, with the fence around it,
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They are putting out a thing that says they're, they feel they're in danger.
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They're, have you seen anything that, that even comes close to any people getting worked
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up, anything of, of, of danger or anything that would, would, uh, would, uh, have the
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reaction that the authorities, uh, in Maricopa County, uh, the voting group has put up around
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You know, the environment here, uh, the enthusiasm on the ground, uh, amongst supporters, amongst
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This is something that the state of Arizona has never seen before.
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Uh, this is a campaign unlike anyone that's ever been ran in the country, quite frankly.
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Um, and no, you're, you're, you're, you're also right that, you know, these are, these are
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These, there has been nothing to, uh, suggest the need for, uh, amplified security, uh, like
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I think it's fairly ironic that, that we see, you know, walls going up around the, the
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count center, but we still don't have a finished border wall.
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Um, so no, I, I have not seen any report, uh, to suggest, uh, that there is any threat of
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violence, um, or, or anything in that vein whatsoever, um, to, to require.
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Brady, how do they, people follow you guys, uh, over there?
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Uh, we've had Carolyn on and obviously Carrie, uh, a lot of times we're trying to give her
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a rest because she, we know she's got, uh, to focus on different things in the transition
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So we've been, uh, been really, um, blessed to have people like yourself and, and Caroline,
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the staff she has around her, her senior advisors are just an incredible team.
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Um, how do people follow you on social media and walk me through the process that this
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audience that is, you know, in the, in the millions that are Carrie Lake fans over the
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weekend, what, how do you, how does Brady Smith see this thing developing, uh, how they
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Cause people want to follow, they're following this minute by minute.
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You can, you can follow me on Twitter at I letter I, the letter M Brady Smith, B R A D Y
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I would also suggest, uh, to your listeners to follow Landon wall, our, our data guru at
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Landon wall underscore, uh, we, you know, continue to put out updates as, as ballot drops come
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in, uh, to be able to contextualize things for, for the electorate and for, you know, folks
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who do not know the ins and outs of Arizona, uh, and when, what is to be expected in these
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individual drops, you know, we're going to see as these same day drop-offs continue to
00:24:56.500
come in, they are going to continue to move Republican way.
00:24:59.980
Uh, Carrie Lake's going to continue to pick up votes, uh, and we are going to win.
00:25:08.540
I want to say you're, you're part of an extraordinary young team out there that, uh, people are hearing
00:25:15.840
You, what you have done and what you guys have created in really more than a campaign, you've
00:25:19.960
created a movement in Arizona that's inspiring, not just the nation, but it's inspiring the
00:25:24.920
I get, I get contacts all day long from throughout the world about how you guys have comported
00:25:29.480
yourself, obviously the poise in class of, uh, of Carrie Lake, but the entire team, how
00:25:34.700
you've comported yourself, you people are unflappable and indefatigable.
00:25:48.820
He's a political operations chief over at Carrie Lake's team.
00:25:51.680
The team is a very young and Carrie Lake runs a, you know, she doesn't, she doesn't have
00:25:58.920
They don't have any big time Washington consultants, none of the traditional Arizona consultants.
00:26:06.180
Doesn't play, you know, not a big TV buy, not big media buyers.
00:26:09.820
This is probably as radical as the Trump, um, primary campaign and the, in the campaign
00:26:17.100
in 16, which was just a campaign that was, uh, was run very differently than any previous
00:26:25.240
And I think the greatest come from behind a political comeback in, uh, American presidential
00:26:33.400
Remember Carrie Lake has had, I think when it's all some total, it's going to be 70 to
00:26:38.720
$80 million dropped on her, almost all in negative ads.
00:26:42.560
Not about policy, but about, she's a terrible person.
00:26:45.460
She's raised, I think three and a half, three in the first part, maybe five, probably spent,
00:26:49.920
let's say eight to 10 against 80 outspent eight to one, nine to one, maybe 10 to one.
00:26:54.340
And, uh, poised for a very, um, uh, shocking victory, I think in Arizona, this is going to
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silent in Europe in the beginning of the armistice, the truce that led to the armistice and to the
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The war to end all wars didn't quite work out like that, did it?
00:32:05.000
Kind of kicked off the end of the Victorian era and the beginning of the bloodiest century
00:32:11.360
Look, we've been intensely into the politics of all this, and we're getting in now to these
00:32:20.120
And for the war and posse, they've been here from the impeachment days three years ago when
00:32:24.040
we started the show, impeachment, then the pandemic, then the 2020 campaign, and then
00:32:28.660
the impeachment again, and then everything with the Biden regime is showing down leading
00:32:33.900
It's been one intense, historic moment after the other.
00:32:37.940
The one only reason I, and I love the politics and the combat of it and all that.
00:32:45.040
Of course, we like to win more than we lose or draw.
00:32:47.460
The only thing I don't like about it, Mike Davis, is I don't have Mike Davis on enough.
00:32:53.100
He's the one that's going to lead to the tip of the spear to take apart the tech oligarchs.
00:32:59.120
Mike is also our guy that comes on about the Supreme Court and everything about the judiciary.
00:33:04.520
But Mike, in fact, can I play, I want to play a clip.
00:33:10.660
Joe is now in a real dogfight for his seat out in Washington 3, and they're going to have
00:33:18.400
Obviously, Maricopa County is going to have a drop.
00:33:23.060
We'll probably go up and get her or over in the Charlie Kirk show when that comes up.
00:33:26.720
But we're talking about these leadership fights.
00:33:29.080
And so I play this for Joe Kent and get his reaction.
00:33:31.040
I want to play it for you and get your reaction and particularly your comments and observations
00:33:37.600
Can I play this for a second for Brother Davis?
00:33:42.420
But she said, I hope there won't be two years of investigations.
00:33:56.940
And that's why voters came out, especially in Virginia, in our second district,
00:34:00.140
because they weren't happy with the direction of things.
00:34:02.080
And we heard that time and time again at the doors.
00:34:09.160
But Republicans are going to need to be unified, especially in the U.S. House.
00:34:12.840
I think we'll have a slimmer majority than we may have hoped.
00:34:15.960
So it's going to be really important that that messaging going forward of, you know,
00:34:19.860
how can we help where people need the help, which is in the economy and at the border in our communities.
00:34:26.120
If I could, on the issue of investigations, would you support House investigations of Hunter Biden?
00:34:33.860
So what I'm focused on are the issues that why we won.
00:34:37.160
Why we won in this district was because of the economy, because we really sought to tell people,
00:34:42.940
We're going to be able to put more money in your pocketbook and lower those gas and grocery prices.
00:34:48.140
The economy, the border, and our communities and families.
00:34:50.560
That's where my focus has been and will continue to be.
00:34:53.580
Congresswoman-elect Jen Kiggins, good to talk to you.
00:35:02.360
And to put it in context with Congressman Kiggins, or she's about to become Congressman Kiggins,
00:35:09.700
And she took down the last of the real J6 people that were out there.
00:35:13.860
Luria is a rising star down in the Virginia Beach area.
00:35:16.440
I think Luria also went to the Naval Academy, was a naval officer.
00:35:25.740
And one of the reasons that she won was to say that, you know, this January 16th was a waste of time.
00:35:33.860
But that being said, Mike Davis, is this, I don't want to call it a problem, but is this attitude that we just got to do?
00:35:41.200
And yes, and I asked Joe Kent, he's all about the economy.
00:35:43.620
He's all about the invasion of the southern border.
00:35:46.620
These are his bedrock issues that's got him on the precipice of winning up in Washington 3.
00:35:52.260
But is this the problem we've had with the controlled opposition Republican Party that they just don't want to get in there and do the hard work that is really required?
00:36:01.880
And the nation is demanding, and that's why they're giving the Republicans this majority, sir?
00:36:07.200
Well, I think the Republicans in the House can walk and shoot them at the same time.
00:36:12.640
They can have a positive agenda that they can sell to the American people, and they can also do aggressive oversights over the Biden administration.
00:36:21.840
There has to be aggressive oversight over Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department.
00:36:27.500
They have completely politicized and weaponized the Justice Department against President Biden's political enemies.
00:36:34.480
At the Department of Homeland Security, we have the Department of Homeland Security not doing their job.
00:36:43.020
There is an invasion at our southern border, and people need to be held accountable for this.
00:36:47.680
And so, again, House Republicans can walk and shoot them at the same time.
00:36:51.980
They can put forward a sharp contrast with the Democrats on how Republicans can govern while also doing very effective and aggressive oversight.
00:37:05.900
And I realize you're a guy from really the Senate side with Grassley, and you were the Sherpa on many of the Supreme Court issues, and you've worked very close with McConnell staff.
00:37:17.320
I'll talk about what's happening in the Senate in a second.
00:37:19.180
Pretty shocking, these letters, what's going on over there.
00:37:21.760
But these House fights, what she's talking about, is this the tension that's in this town?
00:37:27.280
And people should understand, there's a lot of tension in Washington right now.
00:37:33.220
They'll know it'll be either 219, 220, 221, 222, whatever, that it'll be a 5, 6, 7, 8 seat majority.
00:37:42.940
But the tensions over leadership and these leadership votes and who's going to be the speaker and who's going to run the show.
00:37:48.920
And in a sense is, the question is, is that is McCarthy and people around him tough enough and focused enough to do what needs to be done to really set things right here, particularly to confront, work with the Biden administration where you can.
00:38:08.520
Or is it more of a confrontational, where do you, since you've been at really the tip of the spear in this whole thing about going after the tech oligarchs, and one of the things that you've complained about is that, hey, I've got a plan to really go confront these guys.
00:38:23.040
And we've got to, you know, we've got to be trust busters.
00:38:26.840
And your complaint has been, hey, these guys are playing foot.
00:38:29.720
They talk big, but they're playing footsies with them.
00:38:31.640
And they're going to pass a couple of performative laws, but nothing's going to change.
00:38:35.080
So, where do you come out in all this leadership fight and direction of the House?
00:38:59.980
Just to put it in perspective, we're going to get Mike, try to get Mike back up.
00:39:04.200
Not that I don't love seeing Mike's, you can tell Mike's a fighter.
00:39:07.880
I think it's the red-haired Irishman that kind of gives it away that the, but here's
00:39:14.980
There is, and this is what makes it so fascinating from a dramatic point of view.
00:39:21.380
It's obvious that these votes are being slow walked.
00:39:26.960
And I realize people are doing their jobs and trying to do their jobs.
00:39:29.420
But you just have to question, given the fact that we knew about this, we knew things were
00:39:34.120
Why is Nevada and Arizona taking so long, particularly in the fact that there were these problems
00:39:43.260
They said, hey, we're not going to call the House to at least next Tuesday when this leadership
00:39:49.480
Not the speakership, but the leadership of the Republican conference.
00:39:53.540
They also said, hey, you know, it may take us in California, it may take us two or three
00:40:02.420
Well, if you go back and look at Alex DeGrasse's from the first hour of the show, hey, I'm
00:40:06.480
counting up one, two, three, four, I'm counting up seven of the 15 seats they think they can
00:40:18.880
They're saying right now, the Associated Press says, which is kind of the bellwether people
00:40:22.780
go by, won't even be called for two or three weeks.
00:40:28.760
On the Senate side, we have Laxalt in Nevada right now.
00:40:33.940
They're talking about it could take through the weekend, through Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday
00:40:39.380
All kind of fighting over there about Clark County and Washoe County.
00:40:43.040
You have Arizona, which we're going to get another drop tonight, we just heard, at 8 p.m.
00:40:51.800
We don't know what's going to come over the weekend, but they've already said yesterday
00:40:57.320
There's even, he says, Bill Gates says, they change the goalpost every day, move the goalpost.
00:41:04.820
They're talking about not even a majority of Maricopa County until Monday or Tuesday of next
00:41:10.000
So in all that, you're trying to have these leadership fights.
00:41:12.260
And here's what, let's just go to the heart of the matter.
00:41:15.360
And the war room posse is, and I've tried to play this as even handed as we possibly can,
00:41:25.440
And I think people look at Kevin McCarthy, whether they love him or hate him, is that
00:41:34.320
Can you, this mandate you're getting as small as it is, and let's say it's a 15 seat pickup
00:41:38.900
or a 12, 13 seat pickup, it gives you a majority.
00:41:42.320
Can you actually get done what you need to get done?
00:41:45.600
Are you going to have the fights on the debt ceiling?
00:41:47.320
Are you going to have the fights on these omnibus appropriations bills?
00:41:54.840
As Steve Cortez says, you ought to pass energy and border right out of the box.
00:41:58.560
And if you pass a full spectrum energy dominance bill and Biden vetoes it, refuses to sign it,
00:42:04.960
are you prepared to have Biden shut down the government in order to do that?
00:42:10.700
I forget, Dave is fine, but I can go ahead and roll on this forever.
00:42:18.920
So he says, I ought to bring Mike Davis back in.
00:42:28.680
You've been pretty critical of these guys up to date.
00:42:31.820
And even some of the heroes like the Jim Jordans,
00:42:45.920
You can talk about 230, but you're dancing around the edges
00:42:48.380
and you're making people feel good because you're on Fox and on CNBC talking about stuff,
00:42:55.220
And you've got to be hard and you've got to be tough.
00:42:57.640
So what is your complaint in this leadership about taking over in this same group
00:43:02.520
being in charge of the entire House of Representatives, sir?
00:43:07.480
So we've been talking about big tech for three years and hear Republicans making tough speeches
00:43:15.240
and saying, you know, tough things about big tech, but we have to hold them accountable.
00:43:20.060
And there are bills working their way through the House and Senate right now,
00:43:24.520
sponsored by Congressman Ken Buck, a conservative all-star from Colorado,
00:43:28.340
along with Senator Chuck Grassley, my boss from Iowa, that will finally hold big tech accountable.
00:43:39.240
and the war room posse can go look at those bills right now,
00:43:42.040
and they can see what bills could pass right now with bipartisan supports
00:43:46.240
in the House and the Senate, and President Biden will sign these bills,
00:43:56.460
What about the overall, do you agree with the newly-mitted congressman from Virginia Beach
00:44:06.740
that we should focus on the economy, we should focus on the border,
00:44:10.240
we should focus on things and leave the investigation aside.
00:44:14.900
Anything to do with the DOJ and the FBI, just stay away from it.
00:44:19.400
It's going to get the New York Times all riled up and the Wall Street Journal
00:44:25.840
and the Washington Post, and you don't need a church commission.
00:44:28.780
You don't need to get into the national security apparatus or the CIA,
00:44:31.820
or really not so much the deep state as the administrative state.
00:44:39.020
Do you agree with that, or do you agree that we should use this time,
00:44:52.480
You can push a legislative agenda through committees,
00:44:56.880
and you can push an oversight agenda through committees.
00:44:58.860
That's why we have committees in the House and committees in the Senate.
00:45:03.560
They need to get to the bottom of the Biden corruption.
00:45:06.240
They need to get to the bottom of President Biden,
00:45:08.960
weaponizing, politicizing the Justice Department to go after his political enemies.
00:45:13.420
We need to hold DHS accountable for their total dereliction of duty
00:45:26.100
and we need to – there needs to be aggressive oversight.
00:45:37.360
but you're saying if you do these investigations in the invasion of the southern border,
00:45:41.160
if you do them on the laptop from hell with the CCP involvement,
00:45:43.880
if you do investigations that have ranking members and minority counsel
00:45:49.340
and they get to cross-examine witnesses and all that,
00:45:51.920
if the fruits of that are things that could lead to impeachment,
00:45:56.300
whether of Merrick Garland or Mayorkas or even going all the way up to Biden,
00:46:02.800
Well, I mean, I'm not saying we need to move for impeachment immediately,
00:46:05.520
but there certainly needs to be aggressive oversight.
00:46:12.640
whether he's the chairman of the Judiciary Committee
00:46:14.960
or he's a ranking member of the Budget Committee or another committee,
00:46:18.720
he's going to have a big staff, and they're going to do oversight.
00:46:21.060
And I think the House Republicans need to do oversight.
00:46:25.760
They're going to be in the majority, a narrow majority,
00:46:28.360
but they have a constitutional duty to do oversight of the executive branch,
00:46:36.520
I understand you're close to the McConnell guys as you should be.
00:46:38.800
McConnell's done, you know, people should say what they want.
00:46:41.340
Look, I'm no fan of his, and he's less of a fan of mine.
00:46:44.020
But on the judges, he's done a terrific job of getting these judges approved,
00:46:49.820
And look at the Supreme Court, just a Herculean effort of what's happened there.
00:46:54.240
And that's, quite frankly, saved the nation in the gap.
00:46:57.640
And there's many more big things to come in this session,
00:47:00.780
whether it's affirmative action, whether it's the independent state legislatures,
00:47:05.280
whether it's more things about the administrative state.
00:47:09.380
But I'm kind of, I am actually kind of shocked that you've had a couple of,
00:47:13.080
with this fight, and there's a big fight in the House.
00:47:17.240
hey, Kevin McCarthy spent $40, $50 million taking out Caroline Leavitt,
00:47:21.820
taking out Sabatini in Florida, trying to make Anna Paulina Luna go away,
00:47:26.120
Joe Kent, and dozens, you know, lots of others.
00:47:28.240
And that money should have been spent on making sure Caroline Leavitt won,
00:47:32.400
and Joe Kent won bigger, and Lauren Boavitt won.
00:47:35.880
And so, their fight, the Freedom Caucus is saying, hey, we can't do it.
00:47:42.260
I'm kind of surprised, particularly like guys like Rubio,
00:47:44.940
and people like that that are not normally known.
00:47:47.480
So, now you got Josh Hawley, you've got Mike Lee, you have Marco Rubio,
00:47:53.500
And they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, maybe we slow down this leadership vote
00:47:57.400
also next week, and just wait to see how things play out,
00:48:00.840
and particularly know if we're in the minority or majority.
00:48:07.240
given Mitch McConnell's total grasp on power in the Senate?
00:48:10.500
Well, I mean, it doesn't hurt to have a discussion about leadership,
00:48:16.120
and I don't think anyone should be scared of a discussion about leadership.
00:48:20.120
At the end of the day, I think they're going to see that the Senate majority leader has a tough job.
00:48:24.940
Their job is to herd cats, and these are unruly, undisciplined cats called U.S. senators.
00:48:33.220
And when you're trying to herd cats as the minority leader or the majority leader,
00:48:41.120
And so there are a lot of things that Mitch McConnell has to do,
00:48:45.120
not because he agrees with it, but because he has to keep these unruly cats in line
00:48:50.840
in order to be the majority leader, the minority leader.
00:48:53.200
So I think people just need to take a deep breath.
00:49:00.400
I think Herschel Walker is going to win that race.
00:49:07.040
and we might have a Republican majority when this all ends.
00:49:13.420
Mike, you've been with the War Room now for over a year as one of our big contributors
00:49:18.640
Do you believe that we have a moral responsibility and really a mandate from the American people,
00:49:23.440
particularly in the House, to really make things happen
00:49:26.500
and to really confront this regime, this administration,
00:49:29.520
and make sure we had not just full investigations, but also use the appropriations process?
00:49:35.080
And like, you know, Steve Cortez said, pass an energy bill immediately.
00:49:38.880
And if they don't, you know, be prepared to have Biden shut down the government.
00:49:43.940
If he's not prepared to do it, let him shut down the government.
00:49:49.340
And if we don't use it, the American people will take it back in 2024?
00:49:55.080
To be aggressive oversight, we need to draw a sharp contrast with the Biden.
00:49:59.160
The administration, remember, Biden's not popular.
00:50:06.400
They won by more than six points across the country.
00:50:09.760
It just happens that the Democrats were able to prevent this giant tsunami
00:50:15.160
because they just, I think they did a better job on the ground.
00:50:26.320
We need to start having these state legislatures in these all-mail ballots across the country
00:50:32.460
where it becomes election season instead of election day.
00:50:36.040
And I think the biggest thing Republicans need to stop doing is saying,
00:50:42.600
We're going to let the Democrats kick our butts for four weeks, six weeks before election day,
00:50:49.240
Democrats already have these races won by election day.
00:50:52.800
We need to play by, until we can fix the rules, until we can change the rules,
00:50:56.940
we need to play by those rules, and we need to start learning how to win.
00:51:02.200
Mike Davis, how do people get to you and track all this?
00:51:07.340
Yeah, so it's article3project.org, article3project.org,
00:51:11.540
at article3project, at article3project, on getter, Twitter, Truth.
00:51:15.860
And my personal is M-R-D-D-M-I-A, M-R-D-D-M-I-A.
00:51:26.380
Okay, tonight, we're going to be back at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
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Don't know where we're going to be doing the show from.
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It could be anywhere, so make sure he's tuned in.
00:51:34.760
However, tonight, and check, we're now up on Instagram.
00:51:38.400
We are on, obviously, on Getter, my own personal account on Getter.
00:51:45.320
We're going to be actually going live on Getter later this evening,
00:51:58.460
There's going to be action tonight in Washington 3 with Joe Kent.
00:52:03.920
There's going to be action in Maricopa County in Arizona.
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Again, we're going to be back here live in the War Room at 10 a.m.
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