WarRoom Battleground EP 179： The Orgy Of Malfeasance
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Join us as we discuss the House Freedom caucus and the current chaos on Capitol Hill. We have a special guest on the show to discuss the new House Freedom Caucus candidate for speaker, Andy Biggs, as well as his potential primary challenge to the current speaker of the House of Representatives.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon it is monday 14 november in the year of our lord 2022 we're almost a week after
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the election and i tell you so much is happening we got the lame duck about to start which is going
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to be this orgy of malfeasance here in the united states i don't even know why they let people that
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have just either been voted out of office or left office participate in passing laws but they do
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until the last day of december plus you have these massive leadership battles to still the
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the uh the election is not totally ascertained they're trying to steal it from carry lake out
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in arizona of course they've already stolen in nevada and other places and you've got the house
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up in the air we don't know if it's 219 220 221 uh we're going to have congressman matt gates is
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going to join us shortly he's uh coming he's going to go on the record and say he's not voting for
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he's not going to vote for um uh mccarthy as a speaker uh already laid that out mtg shocked the
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political world today came on war room it's up on media right now just put it up on getter she said
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hey to avoid a liz cheney speakership she is going to back mccarthy and of course you know
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the jake sherman of a punchbowl called it the mtg wing of the party which is the house freedom
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caucus other populists other nationalists we thought we'd get russ vote in here we got so much going on
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all these major issues events uh and uh events that we want to russ and come on here and talk
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about a lot of it but first russ i got to ask you about you're the first one that really came out and
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you don't really get that involved it seems like an elective politics a lot but you'd had a belly
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full of this you came out with really i think a brilliant i forget it was like a 14 point uh twitter
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stream last week thread that laid out the case against uh the cartel the case against the cabal
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on capitol hill what say you is it's heating up they're supposed to do it tomorrow they're talking
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about pushing it off the knives are out annie biggs has announced annie biggs from the house
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freedom caucus and a friend of the war room on the show a lot very close to him personally
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has announced he's running for speaker um it seems like it's complete chaos on capitol hill
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what say you sir yeah the bigs candidacy is very important for two reasons number one it gives
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the house freedom caucus a holding pattern for them to be able to articulate that they're against
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mccarthy and to set the stage for an end game down the road but it's also very critical because it
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prevents the number one excuse from being made by a non-hfc member and that is no one was in the race
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that's what they use that's the that's the defining excuse that they go home and i call it mansplaining
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to their voters and what they say is no one's in the race and so i voted for mccarthy that is now
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not an option with the candidacy of andy biggs so right now we are ahead of schedule you know
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the mccarthy forces were really freaking out all weekend uh they know they don't have the votes
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matt gates will tell you they don't have the votes let me also address uh congressman green's uh
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comments and i love marjorie she's one of my favorite members of congress uh and this is an issue we
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disagree on but rubbing is racing look the issue of the liz cheney speaker is not real
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liz cheney first of all doesn't have a vote it's you don't need his vote to be a speaker but she
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doesn't have a vote and you need republican votes to make with democrats to be able to create a speaker
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in that vein that is the kin to switching parties and we know there are a lot of moderate republicans
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but voting for another speaker of a democrat party is is is a death knell in a primary it is an
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immediate and it is a likely win how do we know because we just saw it with regard to adam kinzinger
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and liz cheney herself so this is not real that doesn't mean there are the votes for for jim jordan
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or andy biggs or even lee zeldon but what it means is that there is massive leverage and that this is not
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a real threat and we know also from history this is something that was everyone kept talking about with
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regard to john bainer it never materialized it can't materialize and it can't materialize on the
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democrat side because they have their own issue with regard to if it's a if it's an actual republican
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who switches they can't come over because they have their own primary issues the only way it could
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potentially be an issue is with a republican that has effectively like bill crystal or liz cheney or adam
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kinzinger become a democrat functionally and and is voting and like they are doing with the j6 to
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govern that way those members are no longer in office there are no other members that have
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i asked that of of mtg today because she's become one of the more serious and and tough players in the
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hill was she taking the bait for something that's put out there by the mccarthy guys
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that's not real to get to cut look the freedom caucus is what 45 50 people is it to take out 30
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of the freedom caucus guys in concern about that led by mtg where you would have 20 or 30 people
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against this now you may be down to 10 even if you got 10 it's it's it's it's enough to drive this in a
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different direction but you think that that was a complete misdirection play by the mccarthy forces
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you know i think you know with regard to a lot of members and i don't want to speak on behalf of
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of marjorie but the they had a they had a game plan going to the election they had kind of come to
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ground with a speaker mccarthy and the election changed out of that and when you have a new
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battlefield you make different play calls and you go out on result of of something you have new
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opportunities and new potential and as a result you have to make different decisions and i think
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people throughout the conference made a decision that i think is going to be right wrong or indifferent
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from their perspective is going to be overridden by the house freedom caucus in the grassroots in
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the war room posse by saying that this is the leverage that we have on the house floor it's going
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to be realized and i think we're going to get real change but i think a lot of members
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coming into this said okay with a big seat majority a red wave uh how can we get comfortable
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with mccarthy and they all kind of thought and made their bed uh accordingly and we have a new
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opportunity at the end after after being on the other side of the election and i've seen it i've seen
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this leadership team from the inside kevin mccarthy was part of the leadership team that i was
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that i got to see behind closed doors and i have not seen any evidence other than him being
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okay to work with with president trump but i i want someone that is okay with the america first
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agenda i want someone who's committed the america first agenda when donald trump is temporarily in
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mar-a-lago that's what i want i don't want someone that is willing to you know play ball with with
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president trump while he's in office i want someone who's actually committed to the issues and the
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agenda and wakes up realizing how late the hour is for our country and seizes the moment with every
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opportunity we have i think that's the opportunity that house republicans can have there's many many
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different end games whether that's jim jordan or whether that's seizing control of the rules
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committee in the house of representatives so the house freedom caucus actually owns all the process
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control there there are many many end games here uh but i think it's important that we unpack what is
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real and what is not real and liz cheney as a speaker is not a real threat
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walk me through what would a speakership i'm not saying he's he's competitive right now but he's
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alternative what would a speakership under andy biggs look like it would look like for the first time
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the leadership team not being at war with the grassroots not being at war with this program and
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the activists that it represents and talks to and channels and be and provides action plans for
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you know i got asked over the weekend why does this never happen on the left uh you know and and
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president trump used to always joke around why is it that the left why the democrats always stay
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together and everyone was divided on our side it's because their leadership team is committed to the
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objectives and the purposes of the democratic party and the left there is no daylight between the two
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so there is always a question of how far they can get or not but that you never have to know that
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you're getting played our leadership team is different our leadership team is all about playing the
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grassroots they come up with shiny objects and they try to manage their activists away from the fight
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away from the the signal they move towards noise in your words and so an andy big speaker a jim jordan
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speakership even a lee zeldin speakership would look fundamentally different it would look like
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real talk to real grassroots and saying this is the fight and getting as far as you possibly can
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and knowing that it you don't have all the power in the world we're not asking for you to win
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at every on every occasion we're asking you to fight on every occasion and to fight with all of
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your might i think that's what you would see under andy biggs i got to get to the omnibus in the
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death ceiling a second i want to leave time for that but the they're going to meet tomorrow on tuesday
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do i guess the first vote for the leadership now why is that important and that'll take place it looks
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like anyway because it just takes a majority of the conference i think uh and that is also in secret
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that's a secret ballot i believe walk people through the process over the next couple weeks
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we want to take it all the way to the speaker to the speaker's vote in january over the next couple
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weeks what should people look for the real vote is in january that's the leverage point that's the
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moment where you have to go to the house or the floor it's all in front of the cameras and say who
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you're voting for and who you're not voting for tomorrow or wednesday is the cartel vote it's behind
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closed doors think of it as a locker room it has a lot of the the atmospherics of a locker room
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the team the rah-rah don't be against the team that's the nature of what the cartel is like and
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it's going to be hard for house republicans house conservatives that are against kevin mccarthy
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but what they need to know is none of it's real none of it's real all it is is an opportunity for
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them to go in there and say i'm not for kevin mccarthy i'm not for andy biggs or some other person who
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might be running that's what this is for so if there's any drama it is the extent to which the
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no votes we have will have a sense of but we you know it's behind closed doors but it will be a shot
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across the bow to the mccarthy votes that they have a growing problem i think a a fatal problem with
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regard to his candidacy but again i think it's important for people to realize it is one part of
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this and it is a part of a process that grows and builds to january where the real vote occurs
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whether we're at 219 220 221 or a few votes more five six seven eight members of the house free
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house freedom caucus if they're and looks under the leadership of biggs and gates if they dig in and
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say anybody but mccarthy how do the mccarthy forces get around that because it's kind of a
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you've got a you've got command by negation is what we call in the military how do how do they
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really get around that steve i don't want to i don't want to to be too presumptive but that's why
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they're panicking i mean they it we are very close to being in a situation where three or four members
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themselves can uh dictate this and we're already at those numbers and then there are a lot of house
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freedom caucus members in reserve that are fully committed to the mission they just haven't publicly
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declared so you know we're in a very good place i would say that we are ahead of schedule in the
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sense that in previous speaker battles you really had to build all through november december to get
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to january where members were finally waking up to the cartel busting nature of what their
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grassroots was demanding and we are ahead of schedule on this i got to turn to this um this lame duck
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session because this is going to be horrific you've warned about this we've talked about this
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now for six months but you have an omnibus bill that looks like it could be a trillion to three and a
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half two trillion dollars totally unfunded over and above the transfer payments of social security
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medicare and medicaid which would be about three and a half trillion dollars you could be looking at a
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five five and a half trillion dollar omnibus bill that's not financed and in in the federal
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reserve is making every argument they're they want to get out of this business the fiscal
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domination of the legislative side as bloomberg calls it is coming to an end you saw that in
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in england in addition nancy pelosi goes on tv yesterday i think it was on abc and there she's
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going to a whole interview and she says the most important thing that she's got to accomplish
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in the lame duck before she kind of turns things over is the debt ceiling they're interconnected
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russ walk people through what should be the concerns people should have whether the pitfalls
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and what the war room posse can do about it so they are interconnected but they the that's also
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partly by design so you take a government shutdown situation where for the discretionary spending if it
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expires you don't have money for for these agencies that is a different situation than a debt limit
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where if you have money coming in you could still spend that money out it just you don't have enough
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to spend for all of the commitments that the federal government has made but there's always
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enough for principle and interest so what the the the cartel does is they merge the fight so hold it
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so hold it so so so you're saying that in that case cash is coming in and the first in the cap table the
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first things get paid are the interest in principle like in life you got to pay your bills first
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particularly ones you owe to the bank or credit cards so when they say default on the debt you're saying
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that's a lie that is that is an intentional merging of the words default they will say that interest
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in principle is the same thing as nih funding for the wuhan institute i mean there is a difference
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between what bills have to be paid for the full faith and credit and what don't or what don't have
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to get done on time and they have intentionally uh over defined the word default so that's one part
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so in the lame duck we have two uh trains that are going to be leaving the station one has to
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and one doesn't have to one is the annual appropriations process and it's vital it is
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absolutely vital that republicans in the senate do not give joe biden a full year appropriations bill
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we will be out of the business of any kind of activism against the regime if that occurs so that's
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one part of the fight but you and i know because we've been texting about it for the last several
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weeks they're also trying to do a debt limit increase and they're going to try to use a
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reconciliation now that one would require if they don't similar to the approach that would require
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um if they don't have that procedure they would have to get 60 votes but they're trying to use this
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special procedure to be able to avoid the filibuster and then it comes down to joe mansion
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um and i think they've got you know i think that'll be hard for them to get joe mansion but not
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impossible uh as we've seen this last year um so those two things are are vital now i think they
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will the real fight will be on appropriations uh but i think they will try to get a debt limit
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because they know historically we have leveraged that for fiscal reforms and we will be in a much
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better place to do that next year so they're again they're trying to merve these issues together
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so that uh it's hard for them to uh so that they have as much opportunity as possible to just clear
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the decks that's the other word that they say they don't want any leverage points the cartel never
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wants leverage points before the floor of this house or senate where the cameras are where there
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are actual votes they want everything done behind closed doors and they want everything kind of kind
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of bums rush uh so that they have two years you hear them say this we want to get this through to the
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next election why do they want that they want that so they don't actually have to come before the
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american people for two years russ uh we want to have you back on a marble work with your team to do
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this because so much to go through with this the politics of it and also the economics and capital
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markets impact of it how to where do where do people go to find out all the great work you're doing
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and to find out more about the details of what you guys are proposing yeah we are at at russ vote on all
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the channels and we are updating those in real time and they can get us at the website at america
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renewing.com in just a few short weeks we will have an america first budget that shows how to balance
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in 10 preserve all of the important things that we actually care about as conservatives as nationalists
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and then goes to war with the woke and weaponized regime bureaucracy that congress is trying to fund at
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the end of this year russ vote honored to have you on here a main player right now thank you very much
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thanks the intensity of this is only going to increase we've had matt gates on obviously a close
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friend of the show and uh a brilliant strategist and uh member of congress can we play the clip i want to
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play the clip from earlier today in the charlie kirk show and then bring congressman gates in no no no
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what i'm saying though is that if it came down to supporting someone like kevin or in the mold of kevin
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you know is there any that were to happen charlie that would solely be by kevin's hand because once
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five republicans stand up and say we're never voting for kevin then if kevin chooses to persist
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it would be him putting our majority who would those five who would those five people be
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well i i think that they would be the people that reliably adhere to the promises that they make to
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their voters i'm not here to like out or dox anybody i'll let people make their own announcements
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in their own time i'm making my announcement which is that i'm not voting for kevin mccarthy i'm not
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voting for him tomorrow i'm not voting for him on the floor and i am certain that there is a critical
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mass of people who hold my precise view and so the sooner we can sort of dispense with the notion that
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kevin's going to be speaker then we can get to the important work of actually looking at who are the
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people that brian fitzpatrick and matt gates can agree on okay we're bringing in matt gates and i
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couldn't hold himself he had to break it on the charlie kirk show but we love charlie kirk it's
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got a big audience uh we have a bigger audience but i'm just saying no congressman gates your closest
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ally in fact she said today that you were her closest friend in congress and her closest ally
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came on the show today and made a fairly compelling case of why your other firebrand wingman is actually
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for kevin mccarthy that would be marjorie taylor green key walker can you compare and contrast her
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thinking to what you're thinking we know andy biggs has announced that he looks like he's announced
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he's running for the speakership also can you walk us compare and contrast you and congressman gates
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well marjorie taylor green is my friend and she will continue to be my friend long after this
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leadership issue is resolved but we see this very differently right now we are in a process of
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elimination paradigm because as the math is working out any five people five america first congress
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members five more moderate republicans can get together and functionally veto any one person as
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leader so within the republican conference we are going to have to have a coalition governance
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not by virtue of my choice or anyone else's but by virtue of how these elections are getting sorted
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out and we're taking losses in california where we should have won and frankly we got wins in new
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york state that no one ever believed would happen and what i while i i deeply care about marjorie taylor
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green i see what a warrior and a fighter she is in the movement my concern is that we cannot trust kevin
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mccarthy this is the same kevin mccarthy who said that i was a danger to others because i verbally
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criticized liz cheney this is the same kevin mccarthy who spent tens of millions of dollars in primaries
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against america first candidates and then when people like caroline levitt and joe kent prevailed in
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their primaries they were in a worse shape to go and face the general election because kevin mccarthy
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had spent so much money against them in the primary i mean i look at yvette harrell in uh in new mexico
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who's only going to lose by a small handful of votes and what if instead of attacking republicans
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and supporters of president trump we put those tens of millions of dollars behind her candidacy
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so i think there were strategic decisions that were wrong i think those strategic decisions
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illuminate a lack of trust and whatever kevin has promised marjorie taylor green i guarantee you this
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at the first opportunity he will zap her faster than you could say jewish space laser
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and i wish that wasn't the case but it is the conduct and it is the pattern and practice of
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kevin mccarthy over years that that showcase this and there's going to be a vote tomorrow and kevin's
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going to overwhelmingly win that vote but there are going to be dozens of republicans who do not vote for
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kevin mccarthy tomorrow now kevin has had years to earn their vote he's had years to earn it and maybe he
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earned marjorie taylor greens but the fact that there are dozens of people as of tomorrow who
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aren't ready to vote for kevin mccarthy you have to somehow believe that magically between tomorrow
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and january 3rd he's going to make up the ground that he hasn't made up with every tool he's already
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had as leader during the election cycle and he did all he could to get rid of the america first people
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but there are enough of us around where we would rather deal with someone who might be a little
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more moderate than our way of thinking if we have someone who is honest with us and who has agency
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and will work with us to unlock the potential of all of the members i want to make sure people
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understand i want to go back a little bit of history this is not something that just kind of
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came up over the last couple days even from last tuesday you were on this show and correct me if
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wrong i think it was actually in august and you walked through a scenario that say hey look if
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it's anywhere between you know five and eight total pickups you know over or not just pickups over the
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218 uh kevin mccarthy's not going to be speaker uh and what everything you said kind of became true
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how did you know back then what was what was the indication to you that the strategy he had for
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actually building a a a bigger majority you know going after caroline levitt going after anna polina
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luna going after harold going after uh joe kent and others how did you know at the time because i tell
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people hey think of what you think of gates this is a called shot and they're in the situation now that
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everything he said was going to come to pass is come to pass matt gates well i see how kevin mccarthy
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treats people and i see how he treats the institution like it is not a bug of the system
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that we never get time to review legislation that a small group of people control the decision making
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in washington it is a feature of that system and it is a system that kevin mccarthy has fully embraced
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the best defense people give of kevin is that he is the lebron james of special interest fundraising
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and i will give him that there has never been anyone better at raising like 500 million dollars
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to go deploy around the country the problem is when you don't have the value set to undergird that
00:24:45.740
and when you don't have the tactical ability to make decisions that grows the majority to at least
00:24:50.820
meet expectations then ultimately you're not the person to be the speaker of the house we need a fresh
00:24:56.520
start we need a new person we need to turn the page on the leadership that has underperformed
00:25:02.020
expectations and that have let us down and i don't care if they raise a billion dollars i don't care
00:25:07.220
if they go wash the car of every lobbyist in washington dc i want to make sure that we have
00:25:11.880
people who are honest with the membership and look i've been fielding calls from people who are not
00:25:16.920
freedom caucus who are not far right but who feel they've been lied to and let down and i think the
00:25:23.700
call for a change to kevin mccarthy will be very evident in the number of people who still can't vote
00:25:30.080
for him that's what the mccarthy like loyalists can't really explain to me when like you know
00:25:35.200
20 30 people don't vote for him tomorrow what's going to get people to vote for him
00:25:39.680
by january when they weren't willing to vote for him now and the only vote that matters is in january
00:25:46.280
everything up to that is you know ranges between preliminary and perfunctory on january 3rd we elect
00:25:52.420
the speaker and if you got 218 votes you get to be the speaker of the house kevin mccarthy does not
00:25:57.180
have 218 votes today and he won't have it on january 3rd
00:26:00.860
matt can you just hang on for one second i just want to hold you through the break because i want
00:26:06.460
to ask you what the what what you would want this to look like on the other side if you and your
00:26:12.640
colleagues prevail we're going to take a short commercial break we're going to be back as we
00:26:16.560
said there are multiple things going on right now elections have not been finished you saw in the
00:26:20.700
previous hour uh arizona also these house races particularly in california they're stretching them out
00:26:25.760
we're going to have tina deskovitz on following congressman matt gates to talk about massive
00:26:30.080
victories for the parental rights movement for all the school boards and we're going to have matt
00:26:33.840
gates in here to explain exactly what his objective is exactly what is he looking for what does he hope
00:26:39.020
to accomplish and what will the new congress look like short commercial break congressman matt gates
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okay welcome back congressman mad gates there's an open revolt uh in the republican uh conference in
00:30:10.860
the house of representatives looks like right now they're going to get the two 18 19 20 21 who knows
00:30:16.060
we're going to go through that in excruciating detail tomorrow morning congressman gates what what
00:30:20.840
what is your objective you've said now for months this is not something you just thought up you said
00:30:24.960
for months that this must happen and it will happen it's a cold shot but i think people that
00:30:30.540
they're still uncertain about what is your objective what do you want the conference to do
00:30:35.340
what do you want the speaker to do what what is the new uh house of representatives uh going to do
00:30:40.580
against uh or with for or against the biden regime sir new leadership is the tactic but it is not
00:30:47.980
an end done to itself frankly i think we need new leadership in the senate where my fellow floridian
00:30:53.820
marco rubio is pushing to delay any election that would benefit mitch mcconnell i think we need new
00:30:59.320
leadership at the republican national committee and certainly we need new leadership in the house
00:31:04.200
what does that unlock for us this is something the war room posse might not want to hear but because of
00:31:10.640
the bad decisions of kevin mccarthy because of the foolish tactics on the campaign trail because of
00:31:16.580
the commitment to america which was like something that frank luntz wrote on the back of a bar napkin
00:31:21.400
more than it was a bold agenda because of all those things we underperformed expectations and
00:31:26.880
that lack of performance is going to mean that you're not going to get everything you want out
00:31:31.680
of this republican majority and neither am i and i'm very disappointed by that but we have to maximize
00:31:37.140
our opportunity to make gains where we can and we have to understand the features of leverage
00:31:42.820
we are going to be the ballast against admitting puerto rico as the 51st state or expanding the supreme
00:31:50.640
court or just a new flash flood of government entitlement spending to pay people not to work
00:31:57.000
in our economy and in our country they'll want to do everything they can to gas or green light a bunch
00:32:02.980
of illegal aliens towards citizenship and we'll have to block that so in a way the incoming speaker has
00:32:08.940
to be the defensive coordinator for the american people on a lot of those fronts where can we play
00:32:13.960
offense the investigations and what i know from kevin mccarthy is that the truth's not in him when it
00:32:19.980
comes to these investigations look do you really believe is there a single american who really
00:32:26.140
believes that kevin mccarthy is going to be aggressive on investigations when it was his idea to
00:32:32.120
get president trump to accept a censure after january 6th this guy's had tougher talk for president
00:32:37.440
trump after january 6th than he's had for the national security apparatus that that potentially
00:32:42.560
was increasing the criminal acuity of the day so when the chips are down you really see whether or not
00:32:48.880
people have the instinct of fight or flight and my objective is to have a republican conference that
00:32:56.560
is willing to fight not run away not concede not give up ground and so to do that we cannot have
00:33:03.760
someone who lies to us we cannot have someone who is going to dole out these subpoenas ever so slowly
00:33:09.200
refuse to enforce them slow walk the inquiries that absolutely need to happen that in a just world would
00:33:15.980
result in the impeachment of ali mayorkas but and and others as well by the way that just is would be
00:33:22.020
my lead off hitter but when it comes to our leash to be able to do what we have to do here's what you
00:33:29.280
gotta know just like chuck schumer couldn't go much further than where joe manchin was willing to take
00:33:34.820
him we might not be able in the house republican majority to go much further than where don bacon
00:33:40.960
and brian fitzpatrick and dave joyce and other members of our moderate caucus are willing to go
00:33:46.960
so rather than play a bunch of games and lie to the american people and tell them we're going to do a
00:33:52.200
bunch of stuff that we aren't really going to do which is the embodiment of the mccarthy strategy
00:33:56.340
i say let's sit down let's build that coalition government let's bring in the moderate republicans
00:34:02.620
the america first republicans freedom caucus members representatives from some of the larger
00:34:07.260
states that constitute our majority and let's go build the operational strategy that gets this
00:34:13.220
economy back on track seals the border and ensures that we unleash american energy and while doing that
00:34:19.100
the very investigations we would pursue would showcase how the corrupt decisions of the biden
00:34:24.500
administration are harming the american people we could all get on board with that but it is going
00:34:29.920
to be the slow boat to china with kevin mccarthy it is going to be the paul ryan trey gowdy playbook
00:34:38.100
that he was very willing to run plays out of during his entire time in leadership and which he will
00:34:43.380
not deviate from today he'll tell you today that he's going to do those things but i'm telling you when
00:34:48.080
the chips are down it's not going to happen and the reason i know i'm going to be successful
00:34:51.700
in ensuring we get a different option than kevin mccarthy is because i have like way more than
00:34:56.940
double the votes i need to ensure that he is not speaker because we have such a slim majority as a
00:35:03.540
result of his own choices it's sort of poetic as a matter of fact that these people put the handcuffs
00:35:08.420
on themselves by spending all this money attacking america first candidates squandering the resources
00:35:14.500
that people had given us to preserve the majority and then making it harder for our republican nominees
00:35:19.980
to come together and battle the democrats battling the democrats that's what we have to do and we have
00:35:25.540
to build a strategy that is an inclusive strategy maybe even with people who aren't matt gates flavored
00:35:31.300
republicans i'm willing to acknowledge that that has to happen i'm willing to acknowledge that the
00:35:36.420
viewpoints of people from states that don't look like florida from districts that don't look like mine
00:35:41.680
are going to be just as dispositive on this process as my own views but what i can say for certain
00:35:47.140
is that kevin mccarthy is not going to be speaker of the house
00:35:49.880
um what's so powerful about this is that you know in the fog of war right it's critical to kind of
00:35:59.340
keep your eye right on it you've had your eye right on it the entire time you've been the one guy that's
00:36:03.760
been right before i let you guys want to pull the camera back for a second politics is the art of the
00:36:08.200
practical the possible and you just walked through i think a master class in that but for matt gates when
00:36:13.480
you look at where the country is in in a perfect world what are the one or two things you think
00:36:19.040
has to happen in the next year uh on capitol hill sir this government has been weaponized against the
00:36:28.380
people of our country we have seen it in school board meetings we have seen it in the unity of
00:36:33.600
purpose between big government and big media and big tech we've seen it in the deprivations of our
00:36:38.860
liberties so the number one thing is that we have to stop our own government from the inward turning
00:36:45.040
of these exquisite authorities against our fellow americans and it really is like the social credit
00:36:50.900
score that they're trying to create for all of us in the financial sector in the political sector
00:36:55.920
sector and in the social sector so i think that is number one and the other thing you know taxes can
00:37:01.780
rise and fall regulations can be implemented and repealed but what is happening on our border right now
00:37:07.560
in a lot of ways is unidirectional and linear like you let four million people into this country illegally
00:37:15.040
and then they start having kids who somehow get treated just as if they're as american as you and i
00:37:21.280
and then they start pulling on the chain of chain migration you start to change this country in ways
00:37:25.920
where even a new government a new focused administration would have a very hard time turning back some of
00:37:33.140
those tides so i would say let's get our government focused on our enemies not our citizens and then
00:37:38.220
let's ensure that this border is secure if we could focus on that i really think our economic conditions
00:37:43.560
would improve our political conditions would improve and we would be able to have the wins in 2024
00:37:49.800
that we deserved and should have had in 2022 bad strategy bad tactics led us to this moment and you know
00:37:56.840
what in most areas of life if you screw up and underperform you don't get promoted like only in politics
00:38:04.300
only in the corrupt swamp of washington dc can you totally blow it and still even be in line for a promotion
00:38:11.420
i think that a lot almost all these people in leadership should be swept out turn the page fresh start new focus
00:38:17.760
protect our fellow americans secure the border right the ship with the economy and get back to campaigning for a republican in 2024
00:38:25.840
uh congressman gates how can people follow you on social media because over the next people should
00:38:32.480
follow you anyway but the next 72 hours specifically how do people follow you i've got a podcast called
00:38:37.860
firebrand where i give regular updates regarding leadership races and other policy matters before
00:38:43.180
the congress folks can follow me at matt gates m-a-t-t-g-a-e-t-z or at rep matt gates on just about all platforms
00:38:50.780
congressman gates thank you very much honored to have you here
00:38:55.000
thank you good to be back with the honey badger let's go get them
00:38:58.560
yes sir that was a master class uh congressman gates brought up a very important topic about
00:39:06.980
weaponizing the united states government against its citizens one of the biggest topics of this
00:39:11.800
started in 2021 and really the spring was about parents and about the justice department under
00:39:17.820
merit garland considering parents going to the school board meetings whether it's for
00:39:21.440
mass mandates vaccines crt uh gender ideology any of it uh to be domestic terrorists i want to bring
00:39:28.760
it but uh groups came together moms for liberty is a key one tina deskovitz joins us right now tina
00:39:34.880
i've been wanting to get you and tiffany on for last week you guys really put your shoulder to the wheel
00:39:40.200
in these incredibly important school board meetings i think at the time there was you had 275
00:39:45.840
i think 280 potential people running you had endorsed or had backed can you get us up to date on just
00:39:52.160
across the country what was the mood with the parental rights movement have a good night last tuesday and
00:39:58.000
where do you guys stand so we had a really great night uh tuesday we've already started compiling for
00:40:05.220
the year as you know school board races are uh year round you know and they're in new york in may
00:40:10.720
and april they're in wisconsin and so uh we are constantly working on on endorsing candidates and
00:40:17.300
following what's going on so our total number for 2022 um has surpassed 500 endorsements or supporting
00:40:25.940
in the races and so we're starting to tally those um and there's they seem to be coming in at the same
00:40:30.560
ratios they came in with the 270 on november the 8th so uh around the country in general we have won
00:40:36.680
over 50 of those races we still have about 37 of them out california apparently takes two weeks to
00:40:42.980
count their ballots in these small school board races which is remarkable um then we've got some
00:40:47.840
others in maryland and different places that are still counting uh but we're really we're really happy
00:40:52.100
with with how it's turned out and what's more remarkable is in florida which is the only place
00:40:57.680
we had any dollars to put uh behind some of these races so we have a little pack here in florida
00:41:03.000
we had fifty thousand dollars that one donor gave us and we were able to put some money behind our
00:41:07.660
65 candidates and we had an 80 percent uh win rate in florida so one thing we've learned out of this
00:41:14.020
election cycle for us uh this year is that when we have even just a little bit of money to put with
00:41:19.840
our mom's enthusiasm on the ground we're able to really see make a significant impact
00:41:24.100
so here's the question by the way california we now we know this from the house races the four in
00:41:31.520
california they're gonna they've told the associated press for the for the congressional districts it's
00:41:37.620
going to take another two or three weeks why why is that in california are you and how many of your
00:41:41.880
seats are i'm not saying in jeopardy but how many are essentially getting slow walked well we're looking
00:41:47.700
at about i think we've got 30 to 35 seats in california that we are waiting to hear from two of our chapter
00:41:53.220
chairs are actually running uh out of the southern end in san luis obispo area uh they are ahead right now
00:41:59.420
with the count but uh we you know we don't know how it's going to turn out they told us to sit tight
00:42:03.460
it's going to be another couple weeks before we know which is it's just remarkable you know i'm here
00:42:07.200
in florida and we knew within an hour the whole state so so tina where do we stand with the printer
00:42:14.000
rights movement now that you've gone through the first cycle the first cycle of um of elections all
00:42:19.860
the way from last spring new york is you know texas florida to a midterm election you've had some
00:42:25.920
tremendous wins i mean you guys have kind of stood this thing up in the last couple years but where
00:42:30.160
do you think the overall movement stands right now i think the momentum is on our side if you watch what
00:42:35.580
happened here in florida on tuesday and what happened with governor de santis and all of our moms behind
00:42:40.600
him and our school board races and when a governor or someone with such authority that's uh popular gets
00:42:46.380
behind some of these candidates and helps push them over the finish line we can really start taking
00:42:51.020
back the education system here in america so tell us how you're going to go forward what is mom
00:42:58.160
celebrity going to do i know you you went from a standing start how many chapters you're in right now
00:43:02.440
so we launched january 1st 2021 which you know with just two of us tiffany and i we are now in uh 42
00:43:09.620
states 250 chapters 110 000 members or so we are working to grow i mean as you know the teachers union
00:43:17.120
has had a stronghold in education for decades they are in all 13 000 school districts so all 3 000
00:43:23.500
counties and then they have local affiliates in every single school district so and that's every
00:43:27.860
single school board race we have a long way to go we're having great success but we have a long long
00:43:32.560
way to go 250 chapters uh we need to be in all 3 000 counties so um you know again great success but
00:43:40.140
the roadmap is to is to rival the unions because they are controlling education with the radical agenda
00:43:45.800
uh that if you know even just this morning i think uh nea put out a tweet that said teachers
00:43:51.580
you know know and love students the best and and know what or know and love the children the best and
00:43:57.300
they know what they need and parents are like are you listening at all you know are you guys paying
00:44:01.440
attention at all because uh this fight is long from over for 3 000 was it 3 000 uh uh counties and 13 000
00:44:12.860
uh school boards um and your objective i just want to make sure you understand your objective is to
00:44:18.980
basically have a a uh a moms for liberty or a parents rights group in every school board service 13 000
00:44:26.580
you want to represent in all 13 000 that basically the plan yeah so we're structured by county so our
00:44:32.600
goal is to have 3 000 chapters one for each county and then each county has district leaders that oversee
00:44:38.480
each school district so in florida each county is its own school district so you only need one
00:44:44.080
chapter chair no district leads but in some like suffolk or nasa new york sometimes you have up to 30
00:44:49.160
school districts and that's just a lot for one volunteer mom to manage so she oversees the county
00:44:54.060
and then she gets 30 volunteers to oversee each school district their ultimate goal is to have a
00:44:58.820
moms for liberty member uh at every single school board meeting from now till the end of time
00:45:03.560
overseeing what's going on in public education in their community last question were your new members
00:45:11.760
are they going to be welcome with open arms at the school boards or is this still going to be as
00:45:16.520
contentious is 23 going to be as contentious as 21 and 22 are we still see those videos of parents
00:45:23.280
being shut down are we still going to be seeing videos of the total lack of respect that these school
00:45:28.600
boards and administrators and union members uh treat parents yeah i don't think they're learning
00:45:35.200
their lesson at all they're still pushing back i think you know some school boards will be better
00:45:39.240
where we've gotten uh people elected and taken a majority we did flip a number of school boards
00:45:43.940
we're very excited about even in some very liberal areas charleston south carolina uh i think we won
00:45:49.560
five seats uh berkeley south carolina six seats took over those boards in charleston it was um
00:45:56.340
i think there's a nine person board and it was eight liberal leaning one conservative and now
00:46:02.320
it's it's a majority conservative so you know boards like that those those newly elected school
00:46:08.040
board members are going to listen to parents and i think you're going to see a much more open dialogue
00:46:12.000
and you're going to see those school districts thrive but there's a lot of work to be done and a
00:46:16.320
lot of districts you're still going to see mics cut off you're still going to see parents upset i mean
00:46:20.560
just look at the national landscape they've learned nothing uh you know when they look at the
00:46:25.060
national elections they're emboldened because we didn't have this big red conservative wave
00:46:30.120
on a national level and so they're just still going to push their garbage on our children and
00:46:35.700
a lot of the papers including the wall street journal said that this parental rights movement
00:46:42.960
may be the most important cultural political movement that's come up in 30 or 40 years do you
00:46:48.340
agree with that 100 i agree with that and i'm just so honored to be in a leadership role with
00:46:54.500
all of these moms and parents on the ground that are fighting helping guide and direct them in any
00:46:59.680
way i can one of my haters last night tagged me on twitter with an old video from 2014 before i was
00:47:05.880
even a school board member here in florida speaking at one of our legislative delegation meetings it was
00:47:10.660
the first time i ever attempted advocacy and i was nervous but i went back and listened and i was
00:47:15.740
speaking for parental rights then and i will continue to fight for parental rights they've been under
00:47:20.580
attack for a long time but people are just starting to wake up to that um i'm just really excited with
00:47:26.260
where this movement is going with the changes that we are going to see um on the future of america
00:47:31.660
because of what parents are doing uh tina deskovich can i get all of your contacts and coordination
00:47:38.560
points ma'am yeah first and foremost moms for liberty.org our social media is all moms the number for
00:47:45.680
liberty on twitter and facebook and and anywhere that you want to try to find us personally i'm
00:47:50.840
tina deskovich my name's on the screen it's not easy to spell on both facebook and on twitter so
00:47:55.980
follow us um get plugged in please please please join or start your local chapter you can do that on our
00:48:01.520
website uh we need everyone in this fight tina thank you very much uh honored to have you on here
00:48:09.540
thanks tina deskovich the moms the moms for liberty um the um i want to go to to so tomorrow at we're
00:48:18.460
going to start this over again we're going to be back basically also uh live later tonight there's
00:48:23.540
going to be uh another drop in maricopa we're going to be either joining charlie kirks we're either going
00:48:28.940
to be joining charlie kirks a stream will be up on our getter i want to make sure everybody in the
00:48:34.520
audience understands go together look for us look for grace chong captain bannon putting up
00:48:39.620
notifications of what we're going to be the fight in arizona couldn't be more intense couldn't be
00:48:45.300
tougher couldn't uh we couldn't be more focused on it so make sure everybody goes another drop tonight
00:48:50.280
we're going to get into all of it also in addition back here tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock every day
00:48:55.920
we're going to have the leadership fights we're going to have what's really happening on closing on
00:48:58.940
this majority in the house of representatives they're starting immediately with the um with this
00:49:04.160
debacle that's going to be the lame duck president trump kicks off tomorrow uh his special announcement
00:49:10.100
we've got a five-person team we've actually got the largest team i think of anybody that's just war
00:49:14.700
room with our partners at real america's voice is by far the largest team down there to cover it we're
00:49:20.060
going to have wall-to-wall coverage all day tomorrow in fact maybe even starting at night with a live
00:49:23.920
stream and of course tomorrow morning and then we're going to do live streams during the day
00:49:27.180
we'll be back in the afternoon and we're trying to work out some do some specials so uh incredibly intense
00:49:33.040
a time one make sure everybody is on go to our getter feed we're updating people all the time
00:49:38.040
with what we're going to be doing of course we want to see you back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow
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morning until then this is stephen k bannon uh you're watching war room uh battleground and it's
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only going to get more intense so make sure you stay tuned