WarRoom Battleground EP 220： Big Tech Racing Towards Superhuman AI
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In this episode, we take a deep dive into the dangers of artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence, and what it means for the future of the world, and how we need to prepare ourselves for it.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon the thought of educators who are dealing with so much right now when it
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comes to making sure that when students hand in a paper it's a paper written by that student
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how worried are you that this is already writing papers for students at colleges across the country
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i wasn't worried too much until i started started this thing here uh listening to this so yeah um you
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know you know i i think about my son you know when you look at when i look at my son's signature
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uh mica it looks like the signature he used when he was in the fourth grade because now he's just
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using the compute right so there's a sense in which technology has has almost disappeared a
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certain kind of attention to penmanship right so what does it mean for creativity what does it mean
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for a kind of not necessarily originality but inspiration that one finds on the page when it's
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being outsourced in this way that's the first kind of worry and you know at the heart of education
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isn't so much about grading papers it's about in some ways kind of developing a certain kind of
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character certain kind of openness and inquisitiveness to the world and what happens
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when that's being outsourced to technology that's the first kind of concern the second concern is that
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technology is is exist it exists in a world that's shaped by bias that's shaped by the ugliness of
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this world chat gpt is not going to get rid of that bias so what happens when it's outsourced
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into this kind of technological medium right it doesn't resolve the ugliness of misogyny it doesn't
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resolve the ugliness of racism and anti-semitism how does that find its way into the code and human
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beings are doing that it seems to me so some questions have to be asked but other than that
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as an educator what happens to inspiration and creativity when a damn computer is doing all of
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things work but also also like part of part of really learning at least for me was the actual
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process of writing uh with a pen and now i guess a computer keyboard actually i know i know but i'm
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just saying the process of of writing a paper for a student is that's how you're learning you're you're
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developing on it and you're erasing and going and you're you're part of that process which helps you
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learn this is all being done for them it's frightening um i want to just close i want to
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start with open ai because open ai was founded in part out of a fear that artificial general
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intelligence or sort of superhuman intelligence shouldn't be in the hands of any one company and
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was perhaps coming faster than we think is it really just right around the corner or is it farther
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off than perhaps even you thought it was well i think it's a question of time frames like i view the
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next few decades for this sort of most important technological milestone in human history i view
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that as right around the corner uh and so the debate of is it 10 years or 100 years i don't think
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that matters too much given the magnitude of what's happening like it's coming soon enough and it's a
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big enough deal that i think we need to think right now about how we want this deployed um how
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everyone gets the benefit from it how we're going to govern it uh how we're going to make it safe and
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sort of good for humanity elon musk who founded this with you has been concerned about the sort of
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apocalyptic possible future of ai how realistic is that apocalypse um i think it's always hard
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to say like when you have any incredibly powerful new technology here's exactly how it's going to
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go um i will say that i am personally optimistic we are going to get to the good future but i think
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that's going to require incredibly hard work from very talented people that needs to start now but
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when you look at the trend as a whole i think it's going to be incredibly positive for humanity but
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you do believe that ai can supersede human intelligence i believe absolutely will there's
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a big debate about time frames i think it takes like unique human arrogance to believe that uh
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ai cannot supersede humans but what about that scares you so many things right this is like
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you know what does it mean to build something that is more capable than ourselves like what does
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that say about our humanity what's that world going to look like what's our place in that world
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how is that going to be equitably shared how do we make sure that it's not like a handful of people
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in san francisco making the decisions and reaping all the benefits like i think we have an opportunity
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that comes along only every couple of centuries to redo the socioeconomic contract and how we include
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everybody in that and make everybody a winner and how we don't destroy ourselves in the process is a
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huge question how we don't destroy ourselves in the process uh wednesday 25 january year of our lord
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2023 uh joe allen i want to bring you got a bunch of clips and we're with joe for this hour by the way
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jim hoft i think is going to join us later we can work at this ray epps some of this ray epps video um
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joe allen right there mika and mika very heartfelt and walking through the the process that all of us
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have gone through of having to sit there on a blank piece of paper and do that process of creation of
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taking your own ideas and having them manifest themselves in the written word uh and the in the
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in the power of that kind of socratic method with yourself to really you know take you to the next level
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and hone your thinking and your rationality your logic all of it which gets you ready for
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critical thinking and how you interact with the world and in in a very heartfelt discussion with
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the professor um but even kind of overwhelmed at a very tiny tiny stage this is so tiny what's
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happening right now about the papers and about the uh gpt uh you know the uh ai gpt which is kind of
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you know came up ahead it's coming out party a little bit in davos and now it's the talk of everywhere
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quite frankly it overwhelmed davos um when you really talk about what's happening
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in sam maltman right there and it's quite telling when you look he said she asked she says will
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artificial intelligence eventually supersede human intelligence his response yes uh artificial
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intelligence will supersede humans didn't say human intelligence said humans joe allen we've got a couple
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clips other clips we've been playing this hour i believe we've we've you've seen everybody reading
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the book of revelations and everybody thinking through the apocalypse always look at the antichrist
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as someone that was going to appear and you know whether it was in the vatican or asia or wherever
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you know over the years you've seen these different pitches the antichrist which is the anti
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of the homo sapiens the anti of the those made in the image and likeness of god uh is being created
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now in weapons labs and laboratories and universities in private companies in the united states western
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europe eastern europe uh the mainland of china north korea south korea some as weapons some as um as
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as to help you write term papers walk us through the difference between what's overwhelming mika
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and quite rightly so i'm not trying to downplay that but that is such a tiny small bore uh problem
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of uh artificial intelligence versus what is accelerating at an accelerating rate is about
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to overwhelm all of humanity which is artificial general intelligence joe allen
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you know steve i i don't know if this is some sort of prank but somehow you've gotten me
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agreeing with morning mika and professor eddie gloud of princeton uh but i i have to say that other than
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perhaps the constant obsession with whether or not ai is going to be racist sexist and homophobic
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i agree with them completely on this they're talking about the dehumanization of human of people
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at a very formative stage in their lives at the educational level and you know much as i disagree
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with eddie gloud on most things uh i will say that he has spent a lot of time with students with with
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young people and he understands the importance of education the importance of education and what we're
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seeing right now definitely one of the first impacts of this is that all the kids who would have
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otherwise struggled with their assignments or uh you know found somebody to write them for them
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uh they are going to turn to chat gpt and other large language models to do not just the writing for
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them but as you just mentioned to do their thinking for them and right now there's a major company it's
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basically a plagiarism detection company it's used by a lot of universities it's called turn it in
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they use it at the universities i've been to uh turn it in has created this chat gpt detector and the
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way it works is basically it looks for the most average paper because chat gpt right now produces
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basically a very very average product but two things are going to happen very very fast one and i hate to
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give the kids tips on this one all a kid has to do is ask the chat bot for an essay on x y or z the chat
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bot will produce a relatively decent essay and then they'll just go through and kind of tweak this or
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that to give it a little bit of personal flavor they're not going to be able to detect that that's
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going to get hacked immediately the second thing that's going to happen is unless the technology just
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stalls out and it hasn't so far then it's going to get better and better more and more sophisticated
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and so they won't have to do so much editing in the future and in fact the chat bot will just simply
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do really kind of high level thinking for students and so what you're going to see in the same way that
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and i hate to use such a crass analogy but in the same way that you see like the big you know kind
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of land whales on the walmart scooters everywhere just because they just decided to give up and that's
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just what they're going to do that is going to be the sort of mentality of x number of people going
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forward it's it began with you could say it began with the automobile the automobile and with the
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television but we're talking about an acceleration of the process of machines becoming more and more
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sophisticated and able to produce however artificial it is some sort of mimicry some sort of resemblance to
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the human mind while simultaneously the human mind actual human beings the people were supposed to
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really care about in this equation their mental faculties will decrease more and more and more and
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yes you will have super smart people who will use these technologies basically to augment their
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intelligence and get smarter but as it's been warned again and again and again and again what you will see
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is this sort of elite that's able to exploit the technology going up and up and up and a few
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people in the middle that are able to exploit the technology just to get to get by and a huge swath of
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humanity that is basically atrophying and that's that's my prediction we'll see if i can take that one to
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the bank but it actually gets worse from that it gets worse from there what sam altman was talking about
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with artificial general intelligence or artificial super intelligence destroying humanity what he's
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talking about is that because these ai systems are going to be integrated at every level of the
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infrastructure if one of those ais goes rogue right or if a whole swarm of ais goes rogue if they decouple from
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human will human enter human intentions if they are not aligned they call it the alignment problem
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if that happens and you're talking about ai systems that are in some way influencing or in control of
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genetic engineering which they're already in integrated into you have been the possibility of
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releasing a bioweapon if you have them in charge of military equipment you then have the problem of what
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happens if it goes rogue and starts attacking human beings just simply either at random or because
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there's some sort of malevolence programmed into it and then going from there you've got the possibility
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that ai as human beings become more and more attuned to being companions with them that the ai will
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basically on its own so to speak uh begin to kind of cloud human thinking intentionally and begin
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producing lies that just further confuse an already confused human race so if you want to get to the
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next worst step of this we can go to the second video which uh i think is a bit more bone chilling
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oh hang on hang on hang on yeah i do i real quickly just for definition though artificial you talked about
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the decrease in the in the dissension of man and in relying too much on this right on this technology uh
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and and not fully developing your own natural um you know your own natural uh mind and reasoning and
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all that but artificial angel intelligence also is orders of magnitude great artificial intelligence
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that's where the artificial intelligence itself starts to replicate itself it's not just about the
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robot could go rogue or some part a component piece the mirror conception itself is it takes
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and correct me if i'm wrong the human actually comes out of the equation it it there's such a
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basis it knows so much it can start to replicate and take itself up to not consciousness but further
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developments that are unencumbered by the human hand and the human writing programming and the human
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writing algorithms is that essentially the greatest threat when you have when he says that artificial
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intelligence when she says isn't the problem is artificial general intelligence can replace or
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supersede human intelligence his response is artificial intelligence can supersede humans joe yeah uh to just
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nail down that definition for the audience many will be familiar with this if they've been listening to
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us for a while you have what exists right now which used to just be called algorithms uh but because of
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their sophistication they're defined in the literature artificial narrow intelligence is able to perform
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one type of task whether it's gene sequencing or playing games or a large language model that deals with language
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or an image generator they can do one task but in so many of these cases they can do that one task at a super
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human level they can't do anything else but they can do that one task far faster and far more accurately
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than a human being that is happening right now the second level which is the sort of dream of people
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at google's deep mind which is the dream of people at open ai which is the dream of many at meta and all
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across the globe including the corporations in china like alibaba and tencent and huawei the dream of
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artificial general intelligence is to be able to kind of glue all of these different narrow
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intelligences together to create a complex flexible cognition it won't be it may be like a human but
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one of the things they talk about all the time it won't be like a human it won't have a body like a
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human it won't have emotions necessarily like a human and it from a theological level many argue it won't
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have a soul like a human but what it will be is intelligent it will be able to solve problems
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faster than a human being and even if there's huge mistakes and flaws in it we are being set up right
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now psychologically and culturally to accept that such a machine is more intelligent than you and you
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should trust it going from there and it really is just directly connected going to there from there
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artificial super intelligence and that is where the ai is writing programs to improve itself
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and as that feedback loop becomes more and more intense you then get what's known as a hard takeoff
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an exponential takeoff in its intelligence so uh the danger there the what's defined in ai alignment the
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danger there is if this thing is not in any way aligned with human values you just created a sort of
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digital frankenstein you have created a monster and you won't be able to control it and right now google's
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deep mind all open ai all of them can code right they can write code the question is whether or not they will
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ever be able to improve themselves so that question is answered uh by nick bostrom uh he's the uh centerpiece
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of our next video okay i just want to make we're going to go to that video in a second i just want
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to make sure everybody understands that we talk about the singularity the convergence on a point
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on this side of it you have homo sapiens or humanity as we know it for you know hundreds of thousands of
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millions of millions of years on the other side is something else that singularity is a convergence
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of uh quantum computing advanced chip design uh you know um biotechnology which we call crispr
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uh you've got regenerative robotics regenerative robotics and artificial general intelligence that
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convergence is the point of the singularity artificial as fast as all these are accelerating i think
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clearly artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence is probably as many as
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as you've seen on the rest of these this may be the lead sled dog let's go to the next uh let's go
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to the next video and we'll bring joe allen back in so the potential for super intelligence kind of lies
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dormant in matter much like the power of the atom like dormant uh throughout human history patiently waiting
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there until 1945. in this century scientists may learn to awaken the power of artificial intelligence
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and i think we might then see an intelligence explosion so let's do a thought experiment let's
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say that we decide to have a chat with china on some kind of treaty around ai surprises in the 50s and 60s
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we eventually worked out a world where there was a no surprise rule about nuclear tests and then
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eventually they were banned when you do uh when somebody launches a missile they uh for testing
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or whatever they notify everyone and everyone then uses their missile defense systems to watch to
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target to train the systems it's a it's an example of a balance of trust or lack of trust it's a no
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surprises rule i'm very very concerned that the uh us view of china as uh corrupt or communist or
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whatever and the chinese view of america as failing which has been well documented will allow people to
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say oh my god they're up to something and then begin some kind of conundrum begin some kind of thing where
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because you're arming or you're getting ready you then trigger the other side we we don't have anyone
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working on that and yet ai is that powerful i think we need something like a manhattan project
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on the topic of artificial intelligence not to build it because i think we'll inevitably do that but to
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to understand how to avoid an arms race and to build it in a way that is aligned with our interests
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but the moment we admit that information processing is the source of intelligence that some appropriate
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computational system is what the basis of intelligence is and we admit that we will improve these
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systems continuously and we admit that the horizon of cognition very likely far exceeds what we currently
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know then we have to admit that we're in the process of building some sort of god
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now would be a good time to make sure it's a god we can live with thank you very much
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it's not science fiction that's not a movie that's a presentation um joe allen
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uh this is the deepest most serious issues we have as a species forget a nation you know forget a uh
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a political movement forget being populist national which is all important this is why it's so important
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to have your sovereignty and have your individual sovereignty because this is all accelerating at an
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accelerating rate joe allen what do we just hear and see steve uh if i could just say up front we are
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not trying to fear monger here right if you don't think any of this is possible then just dismiss what
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these gentlemen say dismiss what we say if it is possible if anything approximating it is possible it's
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very important to listen to these gentlemen because they are dominating the conversation at the top
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so the first nick bostrom oxford professor philosopher co-founder of the world transhumanist association
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may get fired for saying rude things about race some 28 years ago but nick bostrom wrote the book
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super intelligence paths strategies and dangers this book profoundly influenced elon musk and many of
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the other people working on this his contention as we just heard is that artificial intelligence
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should you get that hard takeoff should you get that intelligence explosion that the computer scientist
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ij good predicted back in 1965 where you have a constantly self-improving algorithm that is able to
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completely outpace human beings then you have on your hands either a god or a demon depending on how it
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started out and how it develops this thinking goes to the core of the the project to build an artificial
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general intelligence which all these major corporations and a number of labs and universities
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from mit uh to to stanford and also just random programmers who are working their best to do what
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they can do to improve artificial all of this is working towards artificial general intelligence that's
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their dream that's their hope the second was eric schmidt eric schmidt obviously is the ex-ceo of google
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he has come forward since then to basically be the kind of go-to guy the go-to expert on what are the
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possibilities and dangers of artificial intelligence and he chaired the national security council on
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artificial intelligence a couple of years ago what he's saying there is that you have a situation where
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if you at the us and china or any other world powers working on artificial general intelligence and
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suddenly you have a hard takeoff you're gonna need some kind of warning system to let people know
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that they're going to see a lot of uh let's just say a lot of noise in the system going forward
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so that people don't start lobbying nukes at each other or worse right if it gets any worse but i think
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for our purposes we run out of time here last the guy sam harris right popular philosopher one of the
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four horsemen of new atheism uh he's famous for arguing not just that there is no god but he was
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obsessed with the idea that human beings have no free will that all of our decisions are just an
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illusion and they're basically just a manifestation of the the deepest sort of neurochemical processes
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happening within our brains we don't really have choices so i'm not sure why he's even talking about
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our choices about ai but that last point the point he ended on this belief that we are building some
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kind of god that is a new religion it's based in scientism the belief that science can answer all
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existential questions it then is developed in technocracy the idea that experts should run society
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and then it culminates in transhumanism the idea that human beings should merge with machines that we
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are a species in transition towards something else and that we just simply need to let go of our old
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identities and embrace the new including these godlike ais this is into joe's first point
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for you at home it's the reason we started with mika and and morning joe and and professor uh gold
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the globe um from princeton is that davos man who's supposed to be the inside baseball and everything
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was completely overwhelmed not prepared for and wild like kids at a carnival on uh ai gpt this new
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system is out it's kind of like a wikipedia that you can use and write papers ask questions do all sorts of
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things that is at such a small level but even that has started to overwhelm people that shows you the
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reality that shows you the reality this is not only real it's going to be in your lives and causing
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societal problems causing many more problems than it will solve right now we're gonna take a short
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commercial break our editor for all things transhumanism joe allen joins us again on the
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other side short break stick around you're not going to miss this
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okay welcome back uh joe we've got a bunch more clips but i do have jim hoffs is going to join us on
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some breaking developments on the ray up situation so we may hold some of those for tomorrow but i want
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to go tee up this right here for our tv audience you're going to be a see it i think with subtitles
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for the podcast and our vast radio audience you only hear russian but we'll explain it to you what
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do we got here joe uh this is a bishop porphyry uh russian orthodox uh uh minister he has very very
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controversial ideas of what all of this technological advancement means but i think we would be remiss if
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if we didn't capture the sentiment in the orthodox church because whether he speaks for the entire
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orthodoxy this is the the eastern orthodox church is absolutely far ahead of the game in terms of
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understanding this on a religious level so if you want to roll it uh logan
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what are you doing of the game in terms of the game but it is the same
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ощущение мировых правительниц которые обладают огромной властью которые управляют целыми правительствами
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и они вознамерились уничтожить большую часть человечества 6 миллиардов людей по их плану оставить лишь
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just a small part, but not only this, they wanted to be limited by only opportunities of technology and
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science and to raise the hand of the person, the most important in the human being, the
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human being, the human being, the human being, the human being, the human being, the human being, the human being.
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This is a post-channel, this is a convergence, this is a ideology transhumanism and posthumanism,
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which is written on the symbols of these powerful world authorities.
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One, that the self-conception of elites around the world is one of transhumanism and moving towards a state of being all powerful.
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Two, that the major restraint on their power on this worldly plane is just simply the limits of science and technology.
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Four, and probably most controversially, the notion that they intend to reduce the population by six billion into a much smaller minority.
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One, and four, the idea that, and this is, I think we have shown it for the last year and a half and many, many others before have pointed this out,
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that the basis of all of this is, as Klaus Schwab would say, the merging of the physical, digital, and biological worlds in our physical, digital, and biological identities.
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And as the bishop says, these people are either covertly, I would add, or overtly marching under the banner of transhumanism and post-humanism.
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That state after human beings are no longer the most powerful or even an existent species on the planet.
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The thing about when you see Altman, we see these different videos, I want to make sure everybody understands the way the world works.
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When you're at Davos, you know, part of the, they're there to get the word out, let's take, let's take AI GPT.
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It's to be there among decision makers, but also media, marketers, people know how to brand, and it just explodes everywhere.
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That's why it's with the, everything that went on at Davos this time, that was the talk at Davos, because it caught a lot of the insiders by surprise.
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It shouldn't be lost, but a few days after that, Google announced that Sergei and the two co-founders are now back into Google in a much more focused area in AI,
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because they were caught by surprise what was shown at Davos.
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The other people that are there are the capitalists, the venture, early stage venture capital.
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The next phase is the hedge funds and the big banks that help take these things public and raise massive amounts of capital and create value.
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This is where a flood of capital, when I walk through this, like quantum computing, advanced chip design, the regenerative robotics, CRISPR biotechnology,
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and artificial intelligence, those five areas where there's this convergence, they also go to make these presentations because it attracts capital.
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When the Chinese Communist Party put out Made in China 2025 and the 10 industries that they were going to dominate by 2025,
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the top five were the ones I just listed, the top five.
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So what you're seeing now, Joe, is a rush of capital, and that's only going to mean a bigger acceleration.
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Also, everybody in this audience has to understand something.
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Your tax dollars are underwriting a lot of this.
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Your pension funds, because your pension funds is the money that's managed by the venture capitalists, by the private equity, by the hedge funds.
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But your tax dollars, Joe, because we've got a limited time here, we're going to deal on this with the other things.
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The executive order on the, quote unquote, the moonshot.
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When this executive order was signed, all Joe Biden says, I've had, you know, I've really been focused on the cancer moonshot.
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That executive order showed a whole of government approach, a whole of government approach for exactly these issues we're talking about.
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I want to tie it back up there before we punch and we'll get you back on tomorrow, about how that totally integrates what the administrative state, which is the partner of these companies,
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these public private partnerships in driving this agenda so rapidly forward in that was not about a cancer moonshot.
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That was the executive order on transhumanism that put a whole of government approach on that.
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Yeah, this is the convergence of two major sectors, right?
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You've got the convergence of the military through DARPA, and then you've got the convergence of the biomedical establishment.
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And so with the creation of ARPA-H, the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health, which is on the heels of the executive order,
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you now have an institute that is right there at the top of the executive order, paragraph three, with the intention to program the genome as if it were software.
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And this is a very common conception across the biomedical sector, right?
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It's both a conceptual convergence and an actual convergence.
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So not only do they intend to alter the human genome in order to cure cancer and things like this,
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but Renee Wegrezen, the director of ARPA-H, talks about not necessarily her intentions, but that the field in general is moving towards humanity 2.0.
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And at the same time that this is happening, you have the brain 2.0, which is just basically a revamp of the old brain project,
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which intends to map every neuron in the human brain and their interactions and all the different functions.
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And DARPA is, of course, intending to create more and more advanced brain-computer interfaces,
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beginning with the non-invasive, as we covered in the WEF presentation,
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but also invasive brain-computer interfaces to link the mind to artificial intelligence.
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And one more point about that Brain 2.0 project and the mapping of the human brain.
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The center of that is the Allen Institute for Brain Sciences in Seattle, Washington.
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And their sister organization is the Allen Institute for Artificial Intelligence.
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And you have to understand that the direct connection between these,
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not only in this government-funded sort of circle, but across the entire sort of, you know,
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AI project from Silicon Valley over to China, the more they know about the human brain, they believe,
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the better they can create artificial intelligence that resembles the human brain,
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as intelligent as the human brain, and, of course, will be more intelligent than the human brain in the future.
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Now that, you know, before I turn this over to Jim, if I could just say one thing, Steve.
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But you started off talking about the Antichrist.
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I will say this, you know, the Greek root, anti, has two different meanings.
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Of course, you know, it's come to mostly mean anti as in against.
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So you're anti-black or anti-white, you're against something.
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But in the original context of the term, when the Bible was written, the Greek root just means in place of.
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So the Antichrist is that deity that stands in place of Christ on this earth.
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And whether or not you believe artificial intelligence could ever attain anything like superhuman capability.
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One thing is for sure, the people at the top of these fields, the people not only in government and in the World Economic Forum and Silicon Valley and MIT,
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all of them are trying to create an intelligence that stands in place of the traditional role of Christ,
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that transcendent entity to which you turn to transcend your human limitations.
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I won't make any other hard theological claims beyond that.
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But in that sense, it is undoubtedly an Antichrist.
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Christ gave us the warning on this in that and that was a Mark.
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I think it is when they when they I repeat this all the time when the when he sent the disciples out to heal and they came back and they said, hey, you know, he said, how'd it go?
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And, you know, that's that's not good because they're saying you're the devil.
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And he says, don't worry about what they call me.
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And I've read every document on this because it's such a powerful moment in the Gospels.
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He says all sins can be for only eternal sin, only unforgivable sin and unforgivable sin.
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The eternal sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
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And we know that the Holy Spirit comes into man.
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That's what makes you in the image and likeness of God, the Holy Spirit.
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You know, we pride ourselves in getting ahead of important issues, whether that's the impeachment, whether it's the pandemic, whether it's the Ukraine war on the invasion on the southern border, whether it's the global capital markets crisis, inflation, you know, the vaccine, the whole deal.
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We pride ourselves on working with other news organizations and others to get you ahead of it.
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This is the single biggest, most important issue of our time, full stop, full stop.
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Because the way the system works is capital is pouring into this now at a rate I've never seen before.
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And I've been, since I got at a Harvard Business School in 1985, you know, part of the system of how capital is deployed throughout the world.
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And I can tell you, I have never seen anything like this in my life.
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And this is, and the Paul Allen, just to tie a knot, the Allen Institute in Seattle, both of the brain and artificial intelligence, that's the co-founder of Microsoft.
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You think the Gates Institute and everything, the Gates Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates, well, Paul Allen's, his co-founding partner of that.
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And, and, and, and that is, and it's absolutely, you know, absolutely critical.
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So it's going to be, it's going to be just enormous.
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And, and we've got to, we've got to make sure we're going to focus on this every day.
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You can find me at social media at J O E B O T X Y Z.
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And of course, war room.org under the transhumanism tab, everything collected there.
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Thank you very much to the war room posse, not trying to scare monger, but you have to be aware.
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No, you got to be, Hey, we don't want to scare mong you, uh, scare monger you, but we're talking about the antichrist, the real antichrist.
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By the way, outside of Archbishop Vigano, uh, in Rome and outside of a Bishop, uh, Porfoy, I don't see a lot of this coming out of the seminaries, the monasteries, the theological departments.
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I mean, the Christian intellectuals have got to get on top of this because this is, this is not just the future.
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This is the present and it's accelerating, accelerating rate.
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From the sublime to maybe the less sublime Jim Hoff.
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These are the kinds of fights we have to fight every day.
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The situation it's never made sense with Ray Epps.
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And I've gone through all the documents and, uh, with people on this, on the, on the, on the 800 pages of the, of J six and the testimony.
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The one that makes no sense at all, brother is the guided testimony of Ray Epps.
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Uh, we're going to play it simultaneously while you talk us through it.
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But I just want to do for you, because you, you and your brother, uh, Joe are pretty savvy.
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Did the Ray Epps testimony make any sense to you at all?
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And, uh, they were treating him with, with kid gloves and they were feeding him the answers is what it sounded like.
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When you read over the transcript with Ray Epps, when he spoke in front of Liz Cheney and the J six committee.
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So tell us what, what, tell us what this new development that the exclusive to, uh, the gateway pundit.
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And we posted the video this morning, Cara Castronova, who is a writer at gateway pundit and Alicia Powell, another reporter, two excellent reporters.
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We have are sitting in the proud boys trial this week.
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There's five individuals who are up for seditious conspiracy.
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It's Ethan Nordean, Enrique Tarrio, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rell and Dominic Pozzola.
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What they've noticed in the courtroom was that during one of the videos that the prosecution played, there was a glitch in it.
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All of a sudden when the crowd was breaking through the, the, uh, bike racks, you know, those, those, uh, bike racks, they set up.
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Now, what they noticed was here's Ray Epps and we circled him in red.
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He's the one who's, who's walking through now walking up to the Capitol.
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So we have these gentlemen who are being, uh, under trial and may spend years in, in prison for seditious conspiracy.
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Steve was walking as a stack of the steps of the U S Capitol.
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I thought Ray Epps was just down, supposedly just down by the, by the ellipse or whatever.
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But I thought the whole rap is that he wasn't actually, he, he wasn't actually there leading
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We've posted previous video of Ray Epps where he's holding onto this huge Trump sign metal
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He was actually holding onto that before it was thrown at the police.
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He was right there at the, at the launch of when the, uh, barricade was broken into.
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And notice these people aren't rushing up to the Capitol.
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And, uh, so, but what happened in this, in this, uh, trial this week is they put this glitch
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up and Kara was smart enough to realize, Hey, this doesn't, this isn't what I've seen.
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It is part of the 14,000 hours of footage that has not yet been released to the public.
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We got this and it shows Ray Epps, the un, un, uh, varnished video without the glitch shows
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Ray Epps right there up next to the barriers breaking through with the rest of the group
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And the, and for some reason, the prosecutor, Jason McCullough had, did not have that same
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They had a glitch in their system, uh, of that clip.
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And, uh, we think it's nefarious that this has happened.
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And, uh, again, why are they defending Ray Epps?
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It looks like, did they look like they try to cut, they look like they try to cut the
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Is that, that's what, I mean, how could you have a glitch?
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This is a trial to put guys away in prison for, for, for a long time.
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Steve, this is, uh, something that, um, appears to be purposeful.
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Um, because we have the video, as you're seeing with your own eyes.
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Now we have the video in full without this mysterious glitch that they showed in the courtroom.
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So, um, it's just very sad that they're, they're resorting to this type of tactics to destroy the
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lives of these five men who were attending the rally.
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And, uh, you know, there was no sedition as you know, it's all made up.
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Why is Ray Epps not on trial by going to jail for 20 years?
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And you've got all the, you've got all everything about him.
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Pointing people to go down there from the ellipse and from down by the Willard Hotel.
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Why is Ray Epps not on trial to go to prison for 20 years, sir?
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And, um, there's no reason that Ray Epps is not on trial when he's standing there and
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Um, and he was, you know, urging them to, to, uh, rush into the Capitol that day.
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And here he is right there at the barricade when it was broken through and they're trying
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to hide this from the American public and from the jury in the courtroom this week.
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Who, who, real quick, who were the two reporters that, that broke this for Gateway?
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And, and Alicia Powell's in the, in the trial this week too, sitting, sitting in the trial
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