Bannon's War Room - February 07, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 228: Google IS About To Release 'Sentient' LaMDA Into The Wild


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

172.46538

Word Count

9,491

Sentence Count

30

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

The anti-vaxxers clearly are the winners at this point, and I don t want to put any shade on that whatsoever. They came out the best, and they have the winning position, but if you think they got there by good analytics, that didn t happen. That didn't happen because you could analyze it correctly and make the wrong decision, and you ended up in the wrong place. Would you agree?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:17.020 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:24.780 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
00:00:30.560 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:35.640 is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:39.400 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:46.520 stephen k bannon i'm gonna try to have it both ways i'm gonna try to have it both ways
00:00:54.000 the anti-vaxxers clearly are the winners at this point and i think it'll probably stay that way
00:01:00.640 and and i don't want to put any shade on that whatsoever
00:01:04.640 they came out the best they they have the winning position but if you think they got there by good
00:01:13.220 analytics that didn't happen no that didn't happen because you could analyze it correctly and make the
00:01:22.360 wrong decision would you agree would you agree that you could analyze it with the best analytical
00:01:31.080 capabilities but all the data was bullshit the data was just bullshit so there wasn't really anything
00:01:38.040 that we knew or could could guess so my take was always this it's going to be a guess because i don't
00:01:47.720 know what long covid would do to me and i still don't but i also didn't know what the vaccination
00:01:54.680 would do to me and i still don't so to me it was two unknowns that were both enormous and both of them
00:02:01.560 could have ended your life or your life quality so i waited as long as possible to reduce the risk
00:02:09.400 that something quick would happen i looked at people in my category and that i did what people in my
00:02:15.880 category were typically doing am i glad no no i'm not glad no because it because as things turn down
00:02:27.800 the unvaccinated have a current advantage because they they feel better the the thing they're not
00:02:35.800 worrying about is what i have to worry about which is i wonder if that vaccination five years from now
00:02:43.320 no not regret all right let me stop you right there did you hear me say i regretted anything
00:02:49.800 did did anything sound like regret no also if the data had gone the other way i would not ask the
00:02:59.480 anti-vaxxers to regret it either do you know i would not if it had gone the other way if the data had
00:03:07.400 let's say amazingly said this was just a miracle drug and everybody who didn't get it was a big old dope
00:03:14.280 would i be telling you you should regret not getting it no i wouldn't because you didn't know and i didn't
00:03:21.880 know we were just doing the best we could but it does it it does turn out that the the heuristic or the
00:03:30.840 rule of thumb that everything the government does is bad for you it turns out it worked this time
00:03:38.200 it worked this time because really the anti-vaxxers i think were really just distrustful of big companies
00:03:47.240 and big government that's never wrong it's never wrong to distrust government it's never wrong to
00:03:54.920 distrust big companies but it wasn't necessarily right right every now and then a big company will
00:04:04.200 produce a good product at a good price and nobody dies hey it happens every every now and then our
00:04:10.680 government does something right sometimes sometimes it happens right so if you just took the position
00:04:18.920 let's just distrust everything the government did well you won you won you won completely right now
00:04:28.680 now as far as i know i i feel like i'm on a shrinking piece of ice floating in the ocean
00:04:37.240 right somehow i got trapped on a little iceberg in the ocean it's just like shrinking as i'm floating
00:04:42.760 into the sun i am currently in the only remaining category of people
00:04:49.160 people who might have made the um statistically right choice by accident totally by accident because
00:05:00.520 people in my age group it looks like maybe there was still some benefit not necessarily to me personally
00:05:08.120 which is why i made the wrong choice or the suboptimal choice wrong implies that i analyzed it wrong
00:05:16.280 suboptimal suboptimal means you know you may have analyzed it right but you didn't end up in the
00:05:21.160 right place i did not end up in the right place okay welcome uh monday 6 february year of our lord 2023
00:05:30.920 the second hour of our late afternoon early evening show here in the war room and um i want to right
00:05:39.640 there as most of you know that's scott adams one of the smartest guys around and the creator of dilbert uh
00:05:45.800 obviously the iconic comic comic strip i guess um and a guy that's a uh brilliant analyst observer
00:05:57.240 commentator on things societal cultural political i want to bring in robin corner who over the brownstone
00:06:06.680 institute has an incredible piece up about the unvaccinated if memphis can can put that up when
00:06:12.360 we bring robin up if the uh how the unvaccinated got it right so i'm kind of confused and robin you're
00:06:19.480 you're a dean of a of a academic institution what in oxford so you're you're as the english as our
00:06:26.040 mother country folks say you're you're quite proper but i am i'm one of you now steve i'm an american
00:06:31.480 citizen i want to put that out there proud american citizen okay well that's good that's good you you
00:06:36.760 followed the revolution our revolutionary generation i guess we're all englishmen too at one time um
00:06:41.880 that's right so they saw the error of their ways um walk me through this is scott adams i'm still kind
00:06:47.000 of confused about scott adams i i love your piece and i want to go through it as time as you have the
00:06:53.480 time in detail because you break this thing down i think in the most sophisticated way i've seen so
00:06:58.840 far but i'm confused by my brother adams who i really admire um tell me what did he just tell me
00:07:06.600 and is that is that jive with your or jive with your uh your piece over at brownstone sir so it's
00:07:15.800 this is it's tricky right because there's so many ways into this um first of all there's the question
00:07:22.360 of whether scott adams is sincere um that doesn't really matter for my argument let's say he is
00:07:27.640 um he says a couple of interesting things that it's not i'm not sure are all mutually consistent
00:07:33.800 one is the let's say our the unvaccinated our um heuristics which means like rules of thumb beat his
00:07:41.560 analytics um indicating that um he was dealing in greater precision with data whereas we had just we
00:07:49.160 were crudely doing this but we got we got it right um and the rule of thumb that he credits us with is
00:07:56.280 just distrust everything the government does i will reiterate that that is a very good um starting
00:08:02.280 point right i would say here's the problem the evidential bar for getting the vaccine is a lot
00:08:07.320 higher than the evidential bar for not um one of the reasons is you're putting something in your
00:08:12.280 body that has never been uh tested over the long run um now if this was the first drug in medical
00:08:18.520 history to be a theoretical certainty of not hurting you in the long run without having to be tested
00:08:24.440 then i mean that would be the only thing anybody would have been talking about in science that
00:08:29.080 wasn't the case so obviously it was a risk and um now so scott does make the fair point are but long
00:08:36.520 covid risk maybe but the data were coming in very very fast that um even the uh the immediate danger
00:08:46.520 of getting hit with this new infectious disease um was minimal for people without comorbidities
00:08:54.600 um that was clear from the data pretty much weeks one two and three um and uh but even if you don't
00:09:01.560 allow that certainly there was a point when uh walensky the head of the cdc uh just came out and said on tv
00:09:08.840 75 percent of all the deaths with uh of covid had the people had um those who died had at least four
00:09:17.320 four comorbidities well that right there should have thrown the whole argument for coerced
00:09:24.760 uninformed vaccination out of the window so what should have happened then what should have happened
00:09:29.720 then is we should have seen if the people pushing the policy had any integrity and actually cared about
00:09:35.640 the data basis of their policy prescriptions we should have seen them respond accordingly we
00:09:41.160 should have seen the policies be tweaked accordingly we should have seen some retractions of claims
00:09:46.040 we should have seen um integrity moral integrity scientific integrity would have demanded that we
00:09:52.200 didn't see any of that that was very telling that told us that okay there's something else going on
00:09:57.080 here though powers that be have let's put it kindly motivated reasoning um don't they always right so
00:10:04.520 there were so many things that i would say um were lacking to be that would be needed to sustain an
00:10:12.440 analysis to get to the result that scott got so whilst i like his idea that our heuristics beat his um
00:10:19.640 analytics i actually think that um i would almost say my analytics beat his analytics because there just
00:10:27.640 wasn't enough data to support an analysis to actually go and take this um on uh this vaccine
00:10:35.480 under coercion and if i may steve and i'll take a breath after this but i think it's super important
00:10:39.720 to say this um scott made a really good simple point but a good point that we unvaccinated now we're not
00:10:47.880 worried about what's happening to us as the data come out um you know it was one massive global clinical
00:10:53.160 trial we are seeing the horrific vaccine injuries um now a lot of people could rightly worry about
00:10:59.480 that um i'm not worried about it as scott said i wouldn't be he's right but there's something else
00:11:03.960 i'm not worried about i'm not worried about dying one day on my deathbed looking back at having
00:11:10.520 participated against my instinct against my integrity in one of the biggest takedowns of uh
00:11:19.720 natural rights constitutional rights in my lifetime um well that goes a long way too that's a thing
00:11:27.480 also i don't have to worry about i think there's a lot of vaccinated people who are angry now because
00:11:32.360 they feel they they feel a bit dirty a bit morally dirty because they kind of knew better but they
00:11:37.400 compromised themselves they had the the choice between compromise and courage and i'm not this isn't
00:11:42.920 a judgment i'm just making an observation and different people are in different positions they have
00:11:47.160 to make different choices but i think a lot of people feel that they compromise themselves that
00:11:51.480 some part of them instinctively knows better and they got to live with that um fortunately i don't
00:11:59.880 um and and i want to go through these points that you make because i want everybody to read this
00:12:05.400 article and most importantly i want everybody to share this article because and i think you definitely
00:12:11.240 want to show it share it with those family members friends colleagues that you're closest to
00:12:19.400 that get so angry that you can't even get together anymore because you talk one's not vaccinated and
00:12:25.240 the other's vaxxed right because there is a this massive gulf in american society and culture and i
00:12:32.280 know it's is probably even worse than the united kingdom and in certain elements of europe because you
00:12:36.600 actually go through kind of logically step by step but when scott correct me if i'm wrong here but
00:12:42.920 walinsky but once she came out with that i'm not sure people look there's there's a anti-vax crowd that
00:12:50.760 that comes at this the children's health defense folks that come at this with a certain set of beliefs
00:12:56.440 analytics on what they think of vaccines overall and i'm not holding against i've actually gotten to admire
00:13:01.400 those people you know a lot it you know i came up in the in you know born in the 50s came up in
00:13:07.320 the 60s where it was jonah saw you can see trump's a little bit like this right the great vaccines and
00:13:12.120 i took every vaccine i had to take going into school back then i think there was a handful today i hear
00:13:17.560 there's 38 or 40 or more um i took every vaccine i was told to take as a naval officer before going to
00:13:26.200 the western pacific in the indian ocean the persian gulf in places like asia you had to you didn't
00:13:31.080 it was unquestioned you just had to do it at the time but correct me if i'm wrong and when he says
00:13:35.960 it just needs so you got those people and then you got another crowd that hey if the government's
00:13:39.560 going to tell me to do it i'm not going to do it but in the analytics most people and i start out as
00:13:44.680 as vaccine hesitant which means i wasn't going to sign up for this vaccine anytime at the beginning
00:13:50.840 until i saw it then you know i got covid and it was about herd immunity and i thought that eventually
00:13:56.520 and i i kind of thought about how they shifted away from herd immunity immediately and had to go
00:14:01.720 to vaccines my problem with warp speed from the beginning given my understanding of pandemics
00:14:09.400 when we started war with pandemic and delved in here and had all the experts and consultants
00:14:13.400 you know um all the all the great experts that that came because we were the first person really
00:14:18.120 on this story for a month or two back in january 2020 that the dumping of the therapies this whole
00:14:25.240 warp speed it was quite evident given sars one and everything else that happened that this was going
00:14:31.240 to be a clinical trial at bet it was going to be some sort of slapped together clinical trial
00:14:36.600 and most people that i think are rational human beings got to make a decision i either want to opt
00:14:41.240 into the clinical trial or maybe i'll just step back and by the way if i'm one of the people
00:14:45.880 in the country getting covet i'm told i've got herd immunity and antibodies why not step back so i
00:14:51.640 don't understand what scott's talking about we didn't think about the analytics the biggest analytics
00:14:57.160 i think it may be i'm wrong here that most people looked at this on the warp speed and said they've
00:15:02.600 slapped together some some type of clinical trial and they're kind of trying to call it in six months
00:15:08.760 where we still don't have a vaccine for sars-1 and 10 years later i mean isn't that part of
00:15:13.800 important part of the equation no you're right i mean you're getting to a very important um is it
00:15:18.680 a kind of a dichotomy here on the one hand everything you say is right steve we must have
00:15:23.240 been in a clinical trial because there had been no time to put this thing through at least a medium
00:15:29.720 or long-term clinical trial which makes us the clinical trial absolutely right so that means that
00:15:35.160 nobody could honestly say or and seriously believe that the thing is completely safe and yet to be
00:15:44.200 fair to most people most americans most people around the world they should be able to trust their
00:15:51.400 leaders they should be able to write an ideal world trust their leaders who say this vaccine is safe
00:15:56.840 i mean it is almost beyond comprehension that a president and the head of health and cdc and fd and
00:16:04.920 all this could actually get on and knowingly say something is safe if it were not if we cannot trust that
00:16:11.000 we're in a whole world of pain right so people even though if they thought about it they must have known
00:16:16.040 it couldn't have been safe in the long run definitely they weren't stupid to trust everybody in power who had the data
00:16:24.440 um because otherwise what you know what do you have to believe you have to believe that our leaders are
00:16:30.760 pretty much kind of evil um i mean maybe uh so i don't blame people for actually saying okay well i
00:16:36.920 don't get it i'm not looking at the data i haven't thought about it but that's not my job that's why we
00:16:41.000 have president and the cdc and fda they say it's safe it's safe i'm going to act accordingly and i'm not
00:16:45.960 going to do the analytics i'm going to take them at their word um so yeah i would say on the one hand
00:16:51.640 you're right steve um but even even what you're talking about the fact that we were in a clinical
00:16:57.240 trial you know that is another way of saying the analytics kind of don't matter right because do
00:17:01.640 you want to be in a in a clinical trial or not but yes um uh i think if you had thought about it the
00:17:08.840 way you've just described you wouldn't take the vaccine um but people reasonably didn't think about
00:17:15.320 that you know they got jobs to to do they got families to put food on the table for um their leaders all
00:17:21.480 told them it was safe well that wasn't true was it well the term as importantly as tell them safe
00:17:29.400 it they told the other lie and the the more bald-faced lie at the beginning that it was effective
00:17:37.000 safe and effective safe and effective i think the issue now we know from the european european
00:17:41.880 commission or european parliament where they had to testify they said they didn't even they didn't
00:17:46.680 even have time or even tested for spread so the whole initial part of this about that you had to
00:17:55.400 care about others you had to do this you had to do that you were uncaring human being this is why
00:18:00.520 the nfl players had to get the pilots had to get it everybody in the school had to get it i just
00:18:04.600 talked to somebody the other day about uh new york city public schools think you still have to get
00:18:08.360 it that it was effective we now know it's not effective maybe for comorbidities or you got former
00:18:13.640 comorbidities it may have some slight uh effective for the severity of but i still really haven't seen
00:18:21.000 the data on that that's still kind of they just talk about on msnbc really haven't seen any backup
00:18:26.360 to any of that but whether it's safe or principally it's they're giving you something that they don't
00:18:31.640 know is safe or not but they definitely know it's not effective that's the every piece of data we have
00:18:38.120 or at least been put forward it talks about the efficacy or effective is it so there's two parts
00:18:43.160 to that is is it effective for the folks that actually take the vaccination in quotes vaccination
00:18:49.720 um and is it effective in reducing transmission if you get it to others now the the thing that um
00:18:56.840 you rightly say definitely was not tested and they've admitted it wasn't tested is the latter it
00:19:02.440 wasn't actually determined that it does reduce transmission so when that claim was made and it
00:19:07.560 was made that was indeed i think a lie i think so and it was certainly not you know it was not
00:19:12.840 supportable um i still don't know uh what about the effectiveness with respect to you know if you have
00:19:21.160 comorbidities if you're a high risk um it you know does the vaccine uh help you um i i am completely
00:19:27.960 prepared to believe that it that it does that statistically across the population of high
00:19:31.960 risk for covid that if you take it it um reduces your chance of uh dying in the short run but but
00:19:38.360 that's kind of entirely entirely beside my argument because my argument about the unvaccinated getting
00:19:46.280 it right is is an argument for people who don't have to make that consideration because they're not
00:19:52.840 um face you know they don't have a ton of comorbidities they're not at high risk
00:19:56.520 um and i do carve that out in my article but you might hold on for a second what you just hold on
00:20:01.720 what you just said what what hang on what what what evidence do you pull that it even supports that
00:20:09.080 oh no i'd be willing to i'd be i'd be willing i'd be willing to agree with that if i saw any evidence
00:20:15.000 that that actually backed even that case up no i i know you're right to be cautious and i want to
00:20:20.440 make myself absolutely clear i'm not saying um i have seen conclusive evidence to that effect
00:20:25.880 i am saying at the time i was making the decision about whether to take the vaccine
00:20:30.600 it was plausible that it was true and i too was prepared to believe that i wasn't being lied to
00:20:37.240 about the effectiveness of the vaccine in those cases right the high risk cases um i i haven't looked
00:20:43.720 at the data uh since then closely enough to make my own determination um i'm just saying so i'm not
00:20:49.480 saying you're wrong i i don't know all i'm saying is on that particular point i don't know but i'm
00:20:54.120 also saying i don't need to know because the case per my article against taking the vaccine
00:20:59.960 certainly if you don't have a bunch of comorbidities is is pretty damn clear as i as i show
00:21:08.840 just as i can walk through that because i want everybody to appreciate how the powerful this
00:21:13.560 logical argument is and particularly to share this uh with other people they know and particularly people
00:21:19.400 close to them that won't talk to them because they're not vaccinated but walk us through the
00:21:23.560 court walk us through your theory of the case oh where do we go okay i'm gonna i'm gonna pull it up
00:21:29.240 uh here so because there's i mean this article has a lot of points to it right um and um it's a long
00:21:36.680 piece so i can't do justice to all of it but so first the first one maybe the most important one is
00:21:40.920 the one we've already hit the fact that um the thing had not undergone long-term testing so in
00:21:46.360 such a situation that there can be no moral or scientific case for pushing it on and i'm really
00:21:55.080 concerned with the coercion right for pushing it on um people who are not at super high risk if they
00:22:04.440 don't take the vaccine right so if we already know that let's say children are not at high risk then
00:22:09.480 given that the risk of taking the thing is unknown there's no moral or scientific case
00:22:13.640 for pushing it on them so given what wasn't known about long-term safety we should only ever have
00:22:19.480 been talking about those at high risk and that was a group that was identifiable very early on in the
00:22:24.520 pandemic so that's the first thing right um the second thing is we've talked a lot about data steve you
00:22:31.880 and i um we've talked about analytics and heuristics if you're going to do any analytics you need data
00:22:37.880 and we're talking about not having all the data well i'm actually a physicist by training my first
00:22:42.920 degree is in physics right so i know a little bit about science i can read science papers one thing
00:22:47.880 i do know you know this is science 101 you can't do analytics if you've got nothing to do with the
00:22:52.280 analytics on so point two there was massive suppression of um data that didn't support the narrative
00:23:02.600 so what does that mean that means you've got to work harder to look for all the data it means what
00:23:06.520 you're seeing the justificatory data for the the the covidians is going to be hugely biased right um
00:23:14.120 people are not just their data but people who were bringing attention to data that didn't kind
00:23:20.440 of fit the narrative were being suppressed i i know you've encountered this steve i was encountering
00:23:25.560 this you know having my tweets deleted facebook posts you know censored the whole thing and there
00:23:31.560 was a climate of that so there was massive data control and now we have discovered that absolutely
00:23:37.720 that was coordinated deliberate concerted the government was in bed directly going back and
00:23:43.880 forward communicating with social media platforms orchestrating orchestrating and pushing the suppression
00:23:51.720 of data that didn't fit the narrative you can't say follow the science you can't say you're doing
00:23:57.240 something wrong um when what you're doing is suppressing half of the information that enables
00:24:03.880 people to make um informed decisions and you know and obviously informed consent is a basic principle
00:24:11.640 that's violated here right because if you're suppressing data then you don't have informed consent
00:24:15.960 um so that's another piece to this um now here was another interesting one it was also very clear from the
00:24:22.600 data that we did have even taking the data of the government right so i'm taking the data of the pro vaccine
00:24:28.520 side that the amount of spending of resources and the amount of civil rights violations that the government
00:24:37.640 was prepared to do to um uh let's say save you know stop prevent a covert death massively exceeded what they
00:24:50.040 were prepared to do to stop any other kind of death so there was some really weird huge orders of
00:24:56.680 magnitude disproportionality here why why why is it worse to die of covert than anything else um why did one
00:25:06.360 of these deaths make it okay to um you know break families up uh when they should have been at weddings or
00:25:13.480 funerals to um you know damage the development of children um in schools and so on and so forth
00:25:20.120 um now on that all of those things um i certainly was shouted at by a neighbor when she discovered that i i
00:25:27.720 hadn't taken the vaccine don't you want this thing to end blah blah blah blah perfectly decent human
00:25:33.800 um all over the place perfectly decent humans were becoming less decent it became okay to react to the unclean
00:25:41.480 clean uh you know which i was one for a while the unvaccinated um in ways that um broke down the
00:25:48.440 typical bonds of kith and kin right families as you said earlier steve families have kind of broken over
00:25:54.360 this and it's really sad for me to read some of the stories um that people who've read my article have
00:25:59.400 sent to me said you know thanks for writing this here's what happened in my family you know i'm trying
00:26:03.160 to repair this i'm going to print this out and send it to my daughter or my my my mother or whatever it is
00:26:07.960 right um so what we saw what where i'm going with this is what we saw is all of these things were
00:26:13.000 evidences of massive cognitive bias right massive cognitive bias and i actually at the very beginning
00:26:19.800 of the pandemic i wrote an article called something like covid 19 is a trolley problem you're on the
00:26:25.640 tracks and the government has the switch meaning that the government was going to make itself the
00:26:31.240 arbiter of your life um the trolley problem is a little thought experiment in moral philosophy
00:26:37.000 and that's what i was referring to rob rob robin we we've got to take a short break just hang on
00:26:43.720 for one second i've got abe hamaday uh calling in big breaking news out of arizona robin corner's going
00:26:49.640 to uh come back after a short break about this incredible analysis of unvaccinated short commercial
00:26:56.440 break we'll be back with the worm in just a moment
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00:31:28.520 war room battleground with stephen k bannon okay okay here's what i want to do i want to make sure
00:31:38.760 and i want uh grace chung and captain bannon and the others to make sure this article gets out i want
00:31:43.960 the uh posse i want the warm audience to read this they don't want to bring robin back um it's that
00:31:50.280 important it's a fan by the way the the team of uh dr jeffrey tucker and the team over brownstone
00:31:55.560 had just done incredible incredible reporting on this from the beginning in analytics analysis
00:32:01.720 observations all of it so robin how do people uh find you where they get you on social media or other
00:32:07.560 pieces that you've got up to to get to full a better understanding of your full thinking we're
00:32:12.760 gonna bring you back in a couple days and maybe get some reaction from the audience on this because
00:32:16.040 it's a very important piece thanks steve i appreciate that so my twitter handle is at
00:32:20.920 r kerner that's r-k-o-e-r-n-e-r i am as you said an author at the amazing brownstone institute so just
00:32:29.160 go to brownstone.org and you can stick my name kerner in there k-o-e-r-n-e-r and you can see all my
00:32:34.840 work um my personal website is robin kerner.com r-o-b-i-n-k-o-e-r-n-e-r.com um but yeah my my
00:32:44.520 main platform now for authoring articles is brownstone and thanks for giving them a plug
00:32:49.080 there because they've just been a i don't know a beachhead of sanity and freedom uh since this
00:32:54.920 thing has started no it's it's it's been incredible and um you know tucker jeffrey tucker
00:33:00.760 and the guys have done such a great job when did they let you back on twitter i imagine with
00:33:04.600 your early the way you were early on that you had to get you had to get banned from twitter right
00:33:08.760 was this after yeah i did was this not a story i just the same as everybody else you know um i
00:33:16.280 yeah yeah it does it doesn't even matter it's not important i'm there now
00:33:23.000 okay robin thank you so much and thanks tell the guys that uh men and women are brownstone fantastic
00:33:28.120 job great piece thank you steve i look for a local piece uh yeah thanks by the way i want to
00:33:34.440 everybody uh adam um scott adams has a great um video too we just played four minutes over the start
00:33:41.000 the show but everybody sure you know he's a smart guy every and he got vaxxed right he said i guess
00:33:46.200 wrong or i thought my analytics were wrong uh i want to go we got breaking news here and i asked
00:33:51.960 abe hamaday abe i saw a tweet today uh from was a garrett the the fantastic uh talk radio host out
00:33:59.240 in phoenix um what's going on is is there some breaking news here about the provisional ballots
00:34:05.800 and the recount or the counter provisional ballots that may put you over the top in this ag race sir
00:34:12.280 hey steve gonna be with you so yes you know the rnc and my legal team we've been going through the
00:34:17.880 list of provisional ballots the there are the uncounted ballots right now that are outstanding
00:34:23.080 and you know there's about 5 000 of them steve and obviously some of them deserve not to be counted but
00:34:30.680 what our team has gone through and looking at the the data is that many of them about five six seven
00:34:36.760 hundred of them actually have um they're the ones that we believe should be counted because they voted
00:34:42.840 in either the primary back in august they voted in 2020 or even 2018 and yet for some reason the
00:34:50.440 government is listing them as unregistered to vote now and saying that they canceled the registration
00:34:56.440 that's very unusual because here they are they they voted many times in the past they showed up to go
00:35:02.200 vote once again in the november election yet they are now disenfranchised so steve this is a historic
00:35:08.600 opportunity because typically the democrats are the ones screaming to count every vote and here we
00:35:14.520 are as republicans are saying that we don't want any voters to be disenfranchised so we're calling them
00:35:19.960 to count on these votes but we have the list of the provisionals and the party breakdown of these
00:35:25.240 and they are overwhelmingly republican by a two-to-one margin steve so you know this is where you know i
00:35:32.040 don't know if your listener your viewers knew this but we were down 511 votes um before the recounts
00:35:39.000 after the recounts it showed us down 280 it was a huge discrepancy if you if you can imagine that type
00:35:46.440 of uh vote swing there and it was because the penal county had some issues that they discovered so this
00:35:52.120 is what we're talking about we filed a new motion for a new trial and we just we just all be put on a
00:35:57.480 reply so it's in the judge's hands at this point but uh we our legal team and the rnc believes we
00:36:03.160 have the vote and we just need them to be counted hey this is what i think what something that's was
00:36:11.240 500 to begin with and now is 280 and you've got these provisionals how did she she's the acting
00:36:17.320 i mean she's the attorney general of arizona right now correct yes how did that happen how did how
00:36:25.480 how did she actually become the attorney general when this thing is still in play or am i wrong in
00:36:32.200 that assumption no you're absolutely right i mean if you look at what happened this katie hobbs she was
00:36:39.640 the secretary of state at the time she withheld this evidence from us steve during our first trial she
00:36:45.960 withheld it and we didn't know the results of the recount but katie hobbs did she knew that there was a
00:36:51.720 huge discrepancy in the recount which would have been very determinative in our in our first election
00:36:57.000 trial but she withheld that information from not only me but from the judge as well so if you look
00:37:02.440 at what happened i mean they were they basically snuck her into that office but as if we if we get a new
00:37:09.240 trial which i believe we will i'm not sure steve that there's any possibility that we can't get a new
00:37:15.000 trial because look at all the wrongs that have happened right when you had the we were down 511 which
00:37:20.360 was already the closest race in arizona history now down to 280 so even a closer race in arizona
00:37:26.120 history and then you have all the shenanigans that katie hobbs was involved with by not disclosing this
00:37:32.680 key evidence to us or to the judge and then two days later the the recounts came out and then she was
00:37:39.080 the chris mays was sworn into office but you know i i tell people in arizona we actually have
00:37:45.240 a precedent that has removed a sitting governor a sitting statewide office holder when in fact after
00:37:51.320 the election litigation determined that they did not receive the most votes and you know this could
00:37:56.280 be a historic opportunity in our end and that's why i'm fighting this because i understand this
00:38:00.760 goes beyond me see this goes for decades from now you know what happens during this election
00:38:06.280 contest has the potential to set precedent and i want to make sure that no voter was disenfranchised and
00:38:12.040 i want to make sure that what katie hobbs did doesn't become a norm in our in our political atmosphere
00:38:20.360 the 211 votes total votes in the attorney general race sir total total votes were what total it was 2.5
00:38:31.160 million steve so hold it in 2.5 million we're talking about a spread right now of 211 votes
00:38:39.880 and we have provisional ballots you said it looked five or six hundred are going to break two to one
00:38:45.240 of of uh of how many you said there were five thousand provisional ballots why are there only
00:38:50.600 why are there only five or six hundred because the the they were worked at the original votes were
00:38:55.240 were worked out is that why you go from five thousand to five hundred so five thousand was you know
00:39:01.480 there's some there's some legitimate issues are people they registered to vote after the deadline
00:39:06.360 before maybe they already voted by mail and that shouldn't count so they're ones that you know
00:39:11.000 legitimately should not count but the ones that our team has looked at and this is just maricopa
00:39:15.720 county by the way we also have 14 other counties but maricopa county is the biggest we have learned
00:39:20.920 and looked at to see these five hundred to six hundred ballots that we believe have every every reason to
00:39:27.560 count so that's what we're that's what we're focusing on mainly right now but you know we don't know
00:39:33.080 what else we're going to open up and what else we're going to expose because as time goes on steve
00:39:37.640 it just keeps coming better in our favor i mean i'm shocked all the time as you know every single week
00:39:43.240 that goes by keeps getting better usually recounts don't change results steve you know historically
00:39:48.760 recounts to maybe shift a vote total by maybe five or ten here in arizona the biggest one was 14
00:39:55.720 yet in my race it was a 600 vote discrepancy where we gained 450 votes and she gained 200 votes so it
00:40:03.720 was a huge spread and you know why the provisionals are breaking so heavy in our favor steve is because
00:40:09.560 these are election day voters and remember i was winning them 75 percent that's why right now the
00:40:16.760 democrats here in arizona they're very scared to see what we're going to expose right now and i tell
00:40:21.560 folks i mean the government they're not infallible these are the same people who run our post office
00:40:26.760 these are the same people who run the mbd they make mistakes and if you look at what katie hobbs did
00:40:32.440 back in october right before the election i don't know if you remember this steve but she actually sent
00:40:37.160 out 6 000 erroneous ballots that were federal only ballots the wrong people and she admitted that
00:40:43.480 prior to the election but you know this is what we have to say is the government makes mistakes that
00:40:47.880 we got to make sure that we're going to make sure all the votes are actually counted
00:40:51.000 legitimately to declare the actual winner of this race look abe you've got your fan bases
00:40:58.680 is the show i mean these people love you what do you need this show to do what do you need this
00:41:03.400 audience to do right now you know we might come to their help you know eventually we have to contact
00:41:09.800 these voters we have to mobilize the the every single volunteer here in arizona to go door knocking
00:41:15.240 and to find some of these voters so we might need to haul these voters into court um that's what's
00:41:20.040 going to be key to actually get this election corrected so but right now honestly with our
00:41:25.560 our legal fees are being taken care of steve which has been very generous uh from some of our donors
00:41:30.680 but right now it's a matter of just keeping us in their prayers because i i swear these prayers are
00:41:35.960 working somehow because i thought we were out of this months ago here we are in february and we're
00:41:40.840 still fighting and i'm not going to go down until we expose all of what happened in november
00:41:45.240 you're you're you're the winner here we just got to push this story out so we'll become force
00:41:50.840 multipliers for now abe hamaday what's your social media where do people get to you to follow this
00:41:55.320 story sir they can go on my twitter at abraham hamaday a-b-r-a-h-a-m-h-a-m-a-d-e-h thank you steve
00:42:04.520 abe thank you for joining us do we have a cold open for uh for joe allen joe allen's always got
00:42:11.880 a cold open joe allen's the hardest working guy in showbiz okay let's play the cold open and bring
00:42:16.600 joe in back in the 1960s there had been optimistic dreams that it would be possible to develop
00:42:22.200 computers that could think like human beings one computer scientist at mit became so disillusioned
00:42:29.480 that he decided to build a computer program that would parody these hopeless attempts he was called
00:42:35.000 joseph weisenbaum and he built what he claimed was a computer psychotherapist he modeled it on a real
00:42:41.960 psychotherapist called carl rogers who was famous for simply repeating back to the patient what they
00:42:47.480 had just said men are all alike in what way they're always bugging us about something or other can you
00:42:55.320 think of a specific example well my boyfriend made me come here your boyfriend made you come here
00:43:03.320 and i asked her to my office and sat her down at the keyboard and then she began to type and of course
00:43:08.040 i looked over her shoulder to make sure that everything was operating properly after two or
00:43:12.360 three interchanges with with the machine she turned to me and she said would you mind leaving the room
00:43:17.320 please but yet she knew as weisenbaum did that eliza didn't understand a single word that was being
00:43:25.240 typed into it weisenbaum was astonished he discovered that everyone who tried eliza became
00:43:31.240 engrossed they would sit for hours telling the machine about their inner feelings and incredibly
00:43:37.480 intimate details of their lives they also liked it because it was free of any kind of patronizing
00:43:44.280 elitism one person said after all the computer doesn't burn out look down on you
00:43:51.800 or try to have sex with you and we've always had sort of these ethical considerations as fundamental
00:43:57.720 at deep mind um and my current thinking on the language models is and and large models is they're
00:44:03.480 not ready we don't understand them well enough yet um and in you know in terms of analysis tools and
00:44:09.240 and guardrails what they can and can't do and so on to deploy them at scale because i think you know
00:44:15.480 there are big still ethical questions like should an ai system always announce that it is an ai system to
00:44:20.280 begin with probably yes um it what what do you do about answering those philosophical questions about
00:44:26.120 the feelings uh people may have about ai systems perhaps incorrectly attributed so i think there's
00:44:31.480 a whole bunch of research that needs to be done first um to responsibly before you know you can
00:44:37.160 responsibly deploy these systems at scale that will be at least be my um current position uh and then
00:44:42.440 of course there's an additional uh uh thing that has to be overcome with ai that eventually it may have
00:44:47.320 its own agency so it could be uh a good or bad in in of itself so i think these questions have to be
00:44:54.680 approached very carefully not live a b testing out in the world because with powerful dual technologies
00:45:01.080 like ai um if something goes wrong it may cause you know a lot of harm before you can fix it
00:45:08.920 okay joe allen what did we just see but whenever i hear the the the phrase it has its own agency or
00:45:15.000 what have its own agency around robots computers or ai i start to get very nervous joe allen
00:45:21.880 well you know steve before we go back into the video i should go ahead and announce that google uh
00:45:27.000 just announced that they'll be releasing lambda into the wild uh lambda was the computer system
00:45:33.240 that their uh ai ethicist claimed was conscious they'll be calling it bard and they they'll be doing
00:45:40.920 small-scale testing uh for the next couple of weeks and then assuming everything goes well a
00:45:47.000 few weeks later they will release it uh to the general public in limited forms so uh going back
00:45:54.280 to who we just heard that was uh dimming oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa slow down slow
00:46:00.680 down you don't bury the lead i didn't realize when you sent me the thing at bard that that was lambda the the
00:46:06.520 one that the computer scientists the artificial intelligence experts came up what about six
00:46:11.080 months ago and said it had actual consciousness and it was so controversial lambda is actually
00:46:17.080 renamed that's the google bard is is lambda that's right uh it'll be based off of lambda i don't know
00:46:23.400 if they'll put limitations on it that uh were not in place when uh the a.i ethicist uh blake
00:46:29.240 lemoine was was testing it out and decided that it was conscious uh it's something that we should
00:46:34.600 really maybe reiterate here that guy blake lemoine you know he is a gnostic priest and uh an occultist
00:46:43.080 and so aside from being an a.i ethicist trying to root out racism sexism and homophobia uh he also
00:46:50.200 has a very kind of spiritual perspective or an occultic perspective on on this this computer system so
00:46:58.040 yes uh despite all of the worries that uh the ethicists at google had despite the worries just
00:47:04.440 this voice that we just heard from uh deep minds ceo demis asabas uh they will be uh rolling it out
00:47:12.200 i think largely in response to chat gpt coming out and so you know if if microsoft and open ai are going
00:47:19.880 to join forces to push this out there i think uh google doesn't want to get left behind on a system
00:47:26.040 that they ultimately design but but but but hang on but hang on this exactly what we are this is what we
00:47:31.400 argued about the the the the competition the arms race is that when people see commercial advantage
00:47:37.880 just like they're seeing geo they're seeing uh national security advantage behind the scenes in
00:47:42.280 this stuff that this was what was going to trigger the opening of the floodgates right now i mean lambda
00:47:48.440 was the most controversial thing and it was looked like it had to go back into the lab and you know we've
00:47:52.920 had this guy deep mind we know that he has certain he's the head of it for google and he has some big
00:47:59.560 problems with his own creations now you're saying that actual uh lambda renamed bard in some form that
00:48:07.240 was so controversial just six months ago because all of a sudden chat gpt goes to davos and wows davos
00:48:14.680 man right the next thing you know we're unleashing now we're gonna see a torrent of uh of of really
00:48:21.080 unregulated artificial intelligence flooding uh the commercial space sir that appears to be the case and i
00:48:29.160 i don't want to over complicate it steve but uh there are two really big ai programs at google you've
00:48:35.240 got google ai and you've got deep mind i believe lambda is under google ai so you know the demis
00:48:43.160 asabas is kind of speaking from outside of that system if i'm not mistaken so uh yeah you know that
00:48:50.520 that competition angle that you're talking about really is what is driving this forward and also kind of
00:48:55.720 driving forward the irresponsible deployment of all of this the argument from within the u.s and
00:49:01.960 within the west is if we don't do it china will do it and then from within silicon valley itself uh you
00:49:07.960 know if microsoft if we don't do it then uh you know google will do it now google's saying now that
00:49:14.760 microsoft is doing it we had better do it to stay uh competitive so yeah this is i i cannot overstate
00:49:24.200 how big of a deal it is that you have all of these large language models being released all at once
00:49:30.600 and they're so heavy and interactive the problem that we've identified since i first came on the show
00:49:37.160 the sort of deep human machine relationship is at the core of the transhumanist ideology uh that is going
00:49:44.280 to be unleashed on society as a whole across the world and some number of people hopefully a small
00:49:51.880 and controllable minority will undoubtedly develop these sorts of deep relationships with these
00:49:58.440 machines and as we've seen with chat gpt as that gets skewed towards a certain ideological goal it
00:50:06.760 just makes it that much easier for technocrats to control the social psychology as a whole so people
00:50:14.200 better buckle up it's not happening it's not it's not going to be a small piece we only got about 90 seconds
00:50:20.520 left go back to the early part of your cold open where they're talking about people actually getting
00:50:24.680 personal relationships uh with uh with the very early stages of what was it called eliza
00:50:31.480 that's right that's eliza and that was in the 60s it was developed by joseph weisenbaum at mit
00:50:37.160 and the interesting thing about weisenbaum having done this right he actually became very very critical of
00:50:44.280 artificial intelligence as a project a computerized society as a whole a very interesting character
00:50:50.440 but that deep relationship that you saw there i mean this is occurring in the 60s right they already knew
00:50:56.680 people working in this tech that's this this technological field already knew that human beings would have
00:51:02.840 a propensity to kind of divulge their secrets to the machine that's what we've seen with google that's what we see on
00:51:09.880 social media and that is undoubtedly what we're going to see with chat gpt and now with bard or lambda
00:51:17.320 depending on what you want to call it from google joe how do people get to your writings we'll have
00:51:23.000 you back on tomorrow how do people get to you that's joebot.xyz warroom.org under the transhumanism tab
00:51:30.680 and of course my social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z
00:51:37.880 uh joe allen thank you very much appreciate it we'll see you back on the show tomorrow
00:51:42.360 thank you very much now everything transhumanist explodes we could do all four hours a day just on
00:51:47.560 transhumanism and have new developing insanely meaningful all signal stories every day that's
00:51:54.920 how much is happening in that space okay six o'clock oh excuse me 10 a.m tomorrow morning
00:52:01.320 10 a.m tomorrow morning we'll see you back there in the warm it's going to be on fire tomorrow is
00:52:05.160 obviously the state of the union for the biden illegitimate biden regime we're going to have
00:52:10.200 it wall-to-wall coverage all day also all the updates on china the ccp ukraine the capital markets
00:52:16.280 all of it every piece of analytics we're also going to live stream uh tomorrow night the uh state of
00:52:21.160 the union we're going to have commentary as it's going on see you tomorrow morning 10 o'clock back
00:52:25.080 here in the war room
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