WarRoom Battleground EP 228: Google IS About To Release 'Sentient' LaMDA Into The Wild
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The anti-vaxxers clearly are the winners at this point, and I don t want to put any shade on that whatsoever. They came out the best, and they have the winning position, but if you think they got there by good analytics, that didn t happen. That didn't happen because you could analyze it correctly and make the wrong decision, and you ended up in the wrong place. Would you agree?
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon i'm gonna try to have it both ways i'm gonna try to have it both ways
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the anti-vaxxers clearly are the winners at this point and i think it'll probably stay that way
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and and i don't want to put any shade on that whatsoever
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they came out the best they they have the winning position but if you think they got there by good
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analytics that didn't happen no that didn't happen because you could analyze it correctly and make the
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wrong decision would you agree would you agree that you could analyze it with the best analytical
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capabilities but all the data was bullshit the data was just bullshit so there wasn't really anything
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that we knew or could could guess so my take was always this it's going to be a guess because i don't
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know what long covid would do to me and i still don't but i also didn't know what the vaccination
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would do to me and i still don't so to me it was two unknowns that were both enormous and both of them
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could have ended your life or your life quality so i waited as long as possible to reduce the risk
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that something quick would happen i looked at people in my category and that i did what people in my
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category were typically doing am i glad no no i'm not glad no because it because as things turn down
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the unvaccinated have a current advantage because they they feel better the the thing they're not
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worrying about is what i have to worry about which is i wonder if that vaccination five years from now
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no not regret all right let me stop you right there did you hear me say i regretted anything
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did did anything sound like regret no also if the data had gone the other way i would not ask the
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anti-vaxxers to regret it either do you know i would not if it had gone the other way if the data had
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let's say amazingly said this was just a miracle drug and everybody who didn't get it was a big old dope
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would i be telling you you should regret not getting it no i wouldn't because you didn't know and i didn't
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know we were just doing the best we could but it does it it does turn out that the the heuristic or the
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rule of thumb that everything the government does is bad for you it turns out it worked this time
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it worked this time because really the anti-vaxxers i think were really just distrustful of big companies
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and big government that's never wrong it's never wrong to distrust government it's never wrong to
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distrust big companies but it wasn't necessarily right right every now and then a big company will
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produce a good product at a good price and nobody dies hey it happens every every now and then our
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government does something right sometimes sometimes it happens right so if you just took the position
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let's just distrust everything the government did well you won you won you won completely right now
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now as far as i know i i feel like i'm on a shrinking piece of ice floating in the ocean
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right somehow i got trapped on a little iceberg in the ocean it's just like shrinking as i'm floating
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into the sun i am currently in the only remaining category of people
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people who might have made the um statistically right choice by accident totally by accident because
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people in my age group it looks like maybe there was still some benefit not necessarily to me personally
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which is why i made the wrong choice or the suboptimal choice wrong implies that i analyzed it wrong
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suboptimal suboptimal means you know you may have analyzed it right but you didn't end up in the
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right place i did not end up in the right place okay welcome uh monday 6 february year of our lord 2023
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the second hour of our late afternoon early evening show here in the war room and um i want to right
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there as most of you know that's scott adams one of the smartest guys around and the creator of dilbert uh
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obviously the iconic comic comic strip i guess um and a guy that's a uh brilliant analyst observer
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commentator on things societal cultural political i want to bring in robin corner who over the brownstone
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institute has an incredible piece up about the unvaccinated if memphis can can put that up when
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we bring robin up if the uh how the unvaccinated got it right so i'm kind of confused and robin you're
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you're a dean of a of a academic institution what in oxford so you're you're as the english as our
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mother country folks say you're you're quite proper but i am i'm one of you now steve i'm an american
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citizen i want to put that out there proud american citizen okay well that's good that's good you you
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followed the revolution our revolutionary generation i guess we're all englishmen too at one time um
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that's right so they saw the error of their ways um walk me through this is scott adams i'm still kind
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of confused about scott adams i i love your piece and i want to go through it as time as you have the
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time in detail because you break this thing down i think in the most sophisticated way i've seen so
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far but i'm confused by my brother adams who i really admire um tell me what did he just tell me
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and is that is that jive with your or jive with your uh your piece over at brownstone sir so it's
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this is it's tricky right because there's so many ways into this um first of all there's the question
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of whether scott adams is sincere um that doesn't really matter for my argument let's say he is
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um he says a couple of interesting things that it's not i'm not sure are all mutually consistent
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one is the let's say our the unvaccinated our um heuristics which means like rules of thumb beat his
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analytics um indicating that um he was dealing in greater precision with data whereas we had just we
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were crudely doing this but we got we got it right um and the rule of thumb that he credits us with is
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just distrust everything the government does i will reiterate that that is a very good um starting
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point right i would say here's the problem the evidential bar for getting the vaccine is a lot
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higher than the evidential bar for not um one of the reasons is you're putting something in your
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body that has never been uh tested over the long run um now if this was the first drug in medical
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history to be a theoretical certainty of not hurting you in the long run without having to be tested
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then i mean that would be the only thing anybody would have been talking about in science that
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wasn't the case so obviously it was a risk and um now so scott does make the fair point are but long
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covid risk maybe but the data were coming in very very fast that um even the uh the immediate danger
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of getting hit with this new infectious disease um was minimal for people without comorbidities
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um that was clear from the data pretty much weeks one two and three um and uh but even if you don't
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allow that certainly there was a point when uh walensky the head of the cdc uh just came out and said on tv
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75 percent of all the deaths with uh of covid had the people had um those who died had at least four
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four comorbidities well that right there should have thrown the whole argument for coerced
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uninformed vaccination out of the window so what should have happened then what should have happened
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then is we should have seen if the people pushing the policy had any integrity and actually cared about
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the data basis of their policy prescriptions we should have seen them respond accordingly we
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should have seen the policies be tweaked accordingly we should have seen some retractions of claims
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we should have seen um integrity moral integrity scientific integrity would have demanded that we
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didn't see any of that that was very telling that told us that okay there's something else going on
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here though powers that be have let's put it kindly motivated reasoning um don't they always right so
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there were so many things that i would say um were lacking to be that would be needed to sustain an
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analysis to get to the result that scott got so whilst i like his idea that our heuristics beat his um
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analytics i actually think that um i would almost say my analytics beat his analytics because there just
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wasn't enough data to support an analysis to actually go and take this um on uh this vaccine
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under coercion and if i may steve and i'll take a breath after this but i think it's super important
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to say this um scott made a really good simple point but a good point that we unvaccinated now we're not
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worried about what's happening to us as the data come out um you know it was one massive global clinical
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trial we are seeing the horrific vaccine injuries um now a lot of people could rightly worry about
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that um i'm not worried about it as scott said i wouldn't be he's right but there's something else
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i'm not worried about i'm not worried about dying one day on my deathbed looking back at having
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participated against my instinct against my integrity in one of the biggest takedowns of uh
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natural rights constitutional rights in my lifetime um well that goes a long way too that's a thing
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also i don't have to worry about i think there's a lot of vaccinated people who are angry now because
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they feel they they feel a bit dirty a bit morally dirty because they kind of knew better but they
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compromised themselves they had the the choice between compromise and courage and i'm not this isn't
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a judgment i'm just making an observation and different people are in different positions they have
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to make different choices but i think a lot of people feel that they compromise themselves that
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some part of them instinctively knows better and they got to live with that um fortunately i don't
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um and and i want to go through these points that you make because i want everybody to read this
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article and most importantly i want everybody to share this article because and i think you definitely
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want to show it share it with those family members friends colleagues that you're closest to
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that get so angry that you can't even get together anymore because you talk one's not vaccinated and
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the other's vaxxed right because there is a this massive gulf in american society and culture and i
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know it's is probably even worse than the united kingdom and in certain elements of europe because you
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actually go through kind of logically step by step but when scott correct me if i'm wrong here but
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walinsky but once she came out with that i'm not sure people look there's there's a anti-vax crowd that
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that comes at this the children's health defense folks that come at this with a certain set of beliefs
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analytics on what they think of vaccines overall and i'm not holding against i've actually gotten to admire
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those people you know a lot it you know i came up in the in you know born in the 50s came up in
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the 60s where it was jonah saw you can see trump's a little bit like this right the great vaccines and
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i took every vaccine i had to take going into school back then i think there was a handful today i hear
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there's 38 or 40 or more um i took every vaccine i was told to take as a naval officer before going to
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the western pacific in the indian ocean the persian gulf in places like asia you had to you didn't
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it was unquestioned you just had to do it at the time but correct me if i'm wrong and when he says
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it just needs so you got those people and then you got another crowd that hey if the government's
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going to tell me to do it i'm not going to do it but in the analytics most people and i start out as
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as vaccine hesitant which means i wasn't going to sign up for this vaccine anytime at the beginning
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until i saw it then you know i got covid and it was about herd immunity and i thought that eventually
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and i i kind of thought about how they shifted away from herd immunity immediately and had to go
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to vaccines my problem with warp speed from the beginning given my understanding of pandemics
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when we started war with pandemic and delved in here and had all the experts and consultants
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you know um all the all the great experts that that came because we were the first person really
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on this story for a month or two back in january 2020 that the dumping of the therapies this whole
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warp speed it was quite evident given sars one and everything else that happened that this was going
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to be a clinical trial at bet it was going to be some sort of slapped together clinical trial
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and most people that i think are rational human beings got to make a decision i either want to opt
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into the clinical trial or maybe i'll just step back and by the way if i'm one of the people
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in the country getting covet i'm told i've got herd immunity and antibodies why not step back so i
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don't understand what scott's talking about we didn't think about the analytics the biggest analytics
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i think it may be i'm wrong here that most people looked at this on the warp speed and said they've
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slapped together some some type of clinical trial and they're kind of trying to call it in six months
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where we still don't have a vaccine for sars-1 and 10 years later i mean isn't that part of
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important part of the equation no you're right i mean you're getting to a very important um is it
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a kind of a dichotomy here on the one hand everything you say is right steve we must have
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been in a clinical trial because there had been no time to put this thing through at least a medium
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or long-term clinical trial which makes us the clinical trial absolutely right so that means that
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nobody could honestly say or and seriously believe that the thing is completely safe and yet to be
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fair to most people most americans most people around the world they should be able to trust their
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leaders they should be able to write an ideal world trust their leaders who say this vaccine is safe
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i mean it is almost beyond comprehension that a president and the head of health and cdc and fd and
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all this could actually get on and knowingly say something is safe if it were not if we cannot trust that
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we're in a whole world of pain right so people even though if they thought about it they must have known
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it couldn't have been safe in the long run definitely they weren't stupid to trust everybody in power who had the data
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um because otherwise what you know what do you have to believe you have to believe that our leaders are
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pretty much kind of evil um i mean maybe uh so i don't blame people for actually saying okay well i
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don't get it i'm not looking at the data i haven't thought about it but that's not my job that's why we
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have president and the cdc and fda they say it's safe it's safe i'm going to act accordingly and i'm not
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going to do the analytics i'm going to take them at their word um so yeah i would say on the one hand
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you're right steve um but even even what you're talking about the fact that we were in a clinical
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trial you know that is another way of saying the analytics kind of don't matter right because do
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you want to be in a in a clinical trial or not but yes um uh i think if you had thought about it the
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way you've just described you wouldn't take the vaccine um but people reasonably didn't think about
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that you know they got jobs to to do they got families to put food on the table for um their leaders all
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told them it was safe well that wasn't true was it well the term as importantly as tell them safe
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it they told the other lie and the the more bald-faced lie at the beginning that it was effective
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safe and effective safe and effective i think the issue now we know from the european european
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commission or european parliament where they had to testify they said they didn't even they didn't
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even have time or even tested for spread so the whole initial part of this about that you had to
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care about others you had to do this you had to do that you were uncaring human being this is why
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the nfl players had to get the pilots had to get it everybody in the school had to get it i just
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talked to somebody the other day about uh new york city public schools think you still have to get
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it that it was effective we now know it's not effective maybe for comorbidities or you got former
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comorbidities it may have some slight uh effective for the severity of but i still really haven't seen
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the data on that that's still kind of they just talk about on msnbc really haven't seen any backup
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to any of that but whether it's safe or principally it's they're giving you something that they don't
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know is safe or not but they definitely know it's not effective that's the every piece of data we have
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or at least been put forward it talks about the efficacy or effective is it so there's two parts
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to that is is it effective for the folks that actually take the vaccination in quotes vaccination
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um and is it effective in reducing transmission if you get it to others now the the thing that um
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you rightly say definitely was not tested and they've admitted it wasn't tested is the latter it
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wasn't actually determined that it does reduce transmission so when that claim was made and it
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was made that was indeed i think a lie i think so and it was certainly not you know it was not
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supportable um i still don't know uh what about the effectiveness with respect to you know if you have
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comorbidities if you're a high risk um it you know does the vaccine uh help you um i i am completely
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prepared to believe that it that it does that statistically across the population of high
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risk for covid that if you take it it um reduces your chance of uh dying in the short run but but
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that's kind of entirely entirely beside my argument because my argument about the unvaccinated getting
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it right is is an argument for people who don't have to make that consideration because they're not
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um face you know they don't have a ton of comorbidities they're not at high risk
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um and i do carve that out in my article but you might hold on for a second what you just hold on
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what you just said what what hang on what what what evidence do you pull that it even supports that
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oh no i'd be willing to i'd be i'd be willing i'd be willing to agree with that if i saw any evidence
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that that actually backed even that case up no i i know you're right to be cautious and i want to
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make myself absolutely clear i'm not saying um i have seen conclusive evidence to that effect
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i am saying at the time i was making the decision about whether to take the vaccine
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it was plausible that it was true and i too was prepared to believe that i wasn't being lied to
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about the effectiveness of the vaccine in those cases right the high risk cases um i i haven't looked
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at the data uh since then closely enough to make my own determination um i'm just saying so i'm not
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saying you're wrong i i don't know all i'm saying is on that particular point i don't know but i'm
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also saying i don't need to know because the case per my article against taking the vaccine
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certainly if you don't have a bunch of comorbidities is is pretty damn clear as i as i show
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just as i can walk through that because i want everybody to appreciate how the powerful this
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logical argument is and particularly to share this uh with other people they know and particularly people
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close to them that won't talk to them because they're not vaccinated but walk us through the
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court walk us through your theory of the case oh where do we go okay i'm gonna i'm gonna pull it up
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uh here so because there's i mean this article has a lot of points to it right um and um it's a long
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piece so i can't do justice to all of it but so first the first one maybe the most important one is
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the one we've already hit the fact that um the thing had not undergone long-term testing so in
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such a situation that there can be no moral or scientific case for pushing it on and i'm really
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concerned with the coercion right for pushing it on um people who are not at super high risk if they
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don't take the vaccine right so if we already know that let's say children are not at high risk then
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given that the risk of taking the thing is unknown there's no moral or scientific case
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for pushing it on them so given what wasn't known about long-term safety we should only ever have
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been talking about those at high risk and that was a group that was identifiable very early on in the
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pandemic so that's the first thing right um the second thing is we've talked a lot about data steve you
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and i um we've talked about analytics and heuristics if you're going to do any analytics you need data
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and we're talking about not having all the data well i'm actually a physicist by training my first
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degree is in physics right so i know a little bit about science i can read science papers one thing
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i do know you know this is science 101 you can't do analytics if you've got nothing to do with the
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analytics on so point two there was massive suppression of um data that didn't support the narrative
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so what does that mean that means you've got to work harder to look for all the data it means what
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you're seeing the justificatory data for the the the covidians is going to be hugely biased right um
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people are not just their data but people who were bringing attention to data that didn't kind
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of fit the narrative were being suppressed i i know you've encountered this steve i was encountering
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this you know having my tweets deleted facebook posts you know censored the whole thing and there
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was a climate of that so there was massive data control and now we have discovered that absolutely
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that was coordinated deliberate concerted the government was in bed directly going back and
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forward communicating with social media platforms orchestrating orchestrating and pushing the suppression
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of data that didn't fit the narrative you can't say follow the science you can't say you're doing
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something wrong um when what you're doing is suppressing half of the information that enables
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people to make um informed decisions and you know and obviously informed consent is a basic principle
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that's violated here right because if you're suppressing data then you don't have informed consent
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um so that's another piece to this um now here was another interesting one it was also very clear from the
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data that we did have even taking the data of the government right so i'm taking the data of the pro vaccine
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side that the amount of spending of resources and the amount of civil rights violations that the government
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was prepared to do to um uh let's say save you know stop prevent a covert death massively exceeded what they
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were prepared to do to stop any other kind of death so there was some really weird huge orders of
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magnitude disproportionality here why why why is it worse to die of covert than anything else um why did one
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of these deaths make it okay to um you know break families up uh when they should have been at weddings or
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funerals to um you know damage the development of children um in schools and so on and so forth
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um now on that all of those things um i certainly was shouted at by a neighbor when she discovered that i i
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hadn't taken the vaccine don't you want this thing to end blah blah blah blah perfectly decent human
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um all over the place perfectly decent humans were becoming less decent it became okay to react to the unclean
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clean uh you know which i was one for a while the unvaccinated um in ways that um broke down the
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typical bonds of kith and kin right families as you said earlier steve families have kind of broken over
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this and it's really sad for me to read some of the stories um that people who've read my article have
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sent to me said you know thanks for writing this here's what happened in my family you know i'm trying
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to repair this i'm going to print this out and send it to my daughter or my my my mother or whatever it is
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right um so what we saw what where i'm going with this is what we saw is all of these things were
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evidences of massive cognitive bias right massive cognitive bias and i actually at the very beginning
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of the pandemic i wrote an article called something like covid 19 is a trolley problem you're on the
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tracks and the government has the switch meaning that the government was going to make itself the
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arbiter of your life um the trolley problem is a little thought experiment in moral philosophy
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and that's what i was referring to rob rob robin we we've got to take a short break just hang on
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for one second i've got abe hamaday uh calling in big breaking news out of arizona robin corner's going
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to uh come back after a short break about this incredible analysis of unvaccinated short commercial
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break we'll be back with the worm in just a moment
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war room battleground with stephen k bannon okay okay here's what i want to do i want to make sure
00:31:38.760
and i want uh grace chung and captain bannon and the others to make sure this article gets out i want
00:31:43.960
the uh posse i want the warm audience to read this they don't want to bring robin back um it's that
00:31:50.280
important it's a fan by the way the the team of uh dr jeffrey tucker and the team over brownstone
00:31:55.560
had just done incredible incredible reporting on this from the beginning in analytics analysis
00:32:01.720
observations all of it so robin how do people uh find you where they get you on social media or other
00:32:07.560
pieces that you've got up to to get to full a better understanding of your full thinking we're
00:32:12.760
gonna bring you back in a couple days and maybe get some reaction from the audience on this because
00:32:16.040
it's a very important piece thanks steve i appreciate that so my twitter handle is at
00:32:20.920
r kerner that's r-k-o-e-r-n-e-r i am as you said an author at the amazing brownstone institute so just
00:32:29.160
go to brownstone.org and you can stick my name kerner in there k-o-e-r-n-e-r and you can see all my
00:32:34.840
work um my personal website is robin kerner.com r-o-b-i-n-k-o-e-r-n-e-r.com um but yeah my my
00:32:44.520
main platform now for authoring articles is brownstone and thanks for giving them a plug
00:32:49.080
there because they've just been a i don't know a beachhead of sanity and freedom uh since this
00:32:54.920
thing has started no it's it's it's been incredible and um you know tucker jeffrey tucker
00:33:00.760
and the guys have done such a great job when did they let you back on twitter i imagine with
00:33:04.600
your early the way you were early on that you had to get you had to get banned from twitter right
00:33:08.760
was this after yeah i did was this not a story i just the same as everybody else you know um i
00:33:16.280
yeah yeah it does it doesn't even matter it's not important i'm there now
00:33:23.000
okay robin thank you so much and thanks tell the guys that uh men and women are brownstone fantastic
00:33:28.120
job great piece thank you steve i look for a local piece uh yeah thanks by the way i want to
00:33:34.440
everybody uh adam um scott adams has a great um video too we just played four minutes over the start
00:33:41.000
the show but everybody sure you know he's a smart guy every and he got vaxxed right he said i guess
00:33:46.200
wrong or i thought my analytics were wrong uh i want to go we got breaking news here and i asked
00:33:51.960
abe hamaday abe i saw a tweet today uh from was a garrett the the fantastic uh talk radio host out
00:33:59.240
in phoenix um what's going on is is there some breaking news here about the provisional ballots
00:34:05.800
and the recount or the counter provisional ballots that may put you over the top in this ag race sir
00:34:12.280
hey steve gonna be with you so yes you know the rnc and my legal team we've been going through the
00:34:17.880
list of provisional ballots the there are the uncounted ballots right now that are outstanding
00:34:23.080
and you know there's about 5 000 of them steve and obviously some of them deserve not to be counted but
00:34:30.680
what our team has gone through and looking at the the data is that many of them about five six seven
00:34:36.760
hundred of them actually have um they're the ones that we believe should be counted because they voted
00:34:42.840
in either the primary back in august they voted in 2020 or even 2018 and yet for some reason the
00:34:50.440
government is listing them as unregistered to vote now and saying that they canceled the registration
00:34:56.440
that's very unusual because here they are they they voted many times in the past they showed up to go
00:35:02.200
vote once again in the november election yet they are now disenfranchised so steve this is a historic
00:35:08.600
opportunity because typically the democrats are the ones screaming to count every vote and here we
00:35:14.520
are as republicans are saying that we don't want any voters to be disenfranchised so we're calling them
00:35:19.960
to count on these votes but we have the list of the provisionals and the party breakdown of these
00:35:25.240
and they are overwhelmingly republican by a two-to-one margin steve so you know this is where you know i
00:35:32.040
don't know if your listener your viewers knew this but we were down 511 votes um before the recounts
00:35:39.000
after the recounts it showed us down 280 it was a huge discrepancy if you if you can imagine that type
00:35:46.440
of uh vote swing there and it was because the penal county had some issues that they discovered so this
00:35:52.120
is what we're talking about we filed a new motion for a new trial and we just we just all be put on a
00:35:57.480
reply so it's in the judge's hands at this point but uh we our legal team and the rnc believes we
00:36:03.160
have the vote and we just need them to be counted hey this is what i think what something that's was
00:36:11.240
500 to begin with and now is 280 and you've got these provisionals how did she she's the acting
00:36:17.320
i mean she's the attorney general of arizona right now correct yes how did that happen how did how
00:36:25.480
how did she actually become the attorney general when this thing is still in play or am i wrong in
00:36:32.200
that assumption no you're absolutely right i mean if you look at what happened this katie hobbs she was
00:36:39.640
the secretary of state at the time she withheld this evidence from us steve during our first trial she
00:36:45.960
withheld it and we didn't know the results of the recount but katie hobbs did she knew that there was a
00:36:51.720
huge discrepancy in the recount which would have been very determinative in our in our first election
00:36:57.000
trial but she withheld that information from not only me but from the judge as well so if you look
00:37:02.440
at what happened i mean they were they basically snuck her into that office but as if we if we get a new
00:37:09.240
trial which i believe we will i'm not sure steve that there's any possibility that we can't get a new
00:37:15.000
trial because look at all the wrongs that have happened right when you had the we were down 511 which
00:37:20.360
was already the closest race in arizona history now down to 280 so even a closer race in arizona
00:37:26.120
history and then you have all the shenanigans that katie hobbs was involved with by not disclosing this
00:37:32.680
key evidence to us or to the judge and then two days later the the recounts came out and then she was
00:37:39.080
the chris mays was sworn into office but you know i i tell people in arizona we actually have
00:37:45.240
a precedent that has removed a sitting governor a sitting statewide office holder when in fact after
00:37:51.320
the election litigation determined that they did not receive the most votes and you know this could
00:37:56.280
be a historic opportunity in our end and that's why i'm fighting this because i understand this
00:38:00.760
goes beyond me see this goes for decades from now you know what happens during this election
00:38:06.280
contest has the potential to set precedent and i want to make sure that no voter was disenfranchised and
00:38:12.040
i want to make sure that what katie hobbs did doesn't become a norm in our in our political atmosphere
00:38:20.360
the 211 votes total votes in the attorney general race sir total total votes were what total it was 2.5
00:38:31.160
million steve so hold it in 2.5 million we're talking about a spread right now of 211 votes
00:38:39.880
and we have provisional ballots you said it looked five or six hundred are going to break two to one
00:38:45.240
of of uh of how many you said there were five thousand provisional ballots why are there only
00:38:50.600
why are there only five or six hundred because the the they were worked at the original votes were
00:38:55.240
were worked out is that why you go from five thousand to five hundred so five thousand was you know
00:39:01.480
there's some there's some legitimate issues are people they registered to vote after the deadline
00:39:06.360
before maybe they already voted by mail and that shouldn't count so they're ones that you know
00:39:11.000
legitimately should not count but the ones that our team has looked at and this is just maricopa
00:39:15.720
county by the way we also have 14 other counties but maricopa county is the biggest we have learned
00:39:20.920
and looked at to see these five hundred to six hundred ballots that we believe have every every reason to
00:39:27.560
count so that's what we're that's what we're focusing on mainly right now but you know we don't know
00:39:33.080
what else we're going to open up and what else we're going to expose because as time goes on steve
00:39:37.640
it just keeps coming better in our favor i mean i'm shocked all the time as you know every single week
00:39:43.240
that goes by keeps getting better usually recounts don't change results steve you know historically
00:39:48.760
recounts to maybe shift a vote total by maybe five or ten here in arizona the biggest one was 14
00:39:55.720
yet in my race it was a 600 vote discrepancy where we gained 450 votes and she gained 200 votes so it
00:40:03.720
was a huge spread and you know why the provisionals are breaking so heavy in our favor steve is because
00:40:09.560
these are election day voters and remember i was winning them 75 percent that's why right now the
00:40:16.760
democrats here in arizona they're very scared to see what we're going to expose right now and i tell
00:40:21.560
folks i mean the government they're not infallible these are the same people who run our post office
00:40:26.760
these are the same people who run the mbd they make mistakes and if you look at what katie hobbs did
00:40:32.440
back in october right before the election i don't know if you remember this steve but she actually sent
00:40:37.160
out 6 000 erroneous ballots that were federal only ballots the wrong people and she admitted that
00:40:43.480
prior to the election but you know this is what we have to say is the government makes mistakes that
00:40:47.880
we got to make sure that we're going to make sure all the votes are actually counted
00:40:51.000
legitimately to declare the actual winner of this race look abe you've got your fan bases
00:40:58.680
is the show i mean these people love you what do you need this show to do what do you need this
00:41:03.400
audience to do right now you know we might come to their help you know eventually we have to contact
00:41:09.800
these voters we have to mobilize the the every single volunteer here in arizona to go door knocking
00:41:15.240
and to find some of these voters so we might need to haul these voters into court um that's what's
00:41:20.040
going to be key to actually get this election corrected so but right now honestly with our
00:41:25.560
our legal fees are being taken care of steve which has been very generous uh from some of our donors
00:41:30.680
but right now it's a matter of just keeping us in their prayers because i i swear these prayers are
00:41:35.960
working somehow because i thought we were out of this months ago here we are in february and we're
00:41:40.840
still fighting and i'm not going to go down until we expose all of what happened in november
00:41:45.240
you're you're you're the winner here we just got to push this story out so we'll become force
00:41:50.840
multipliers for now abe hamaday what's your social media where do people get to you to follow this
00:41:55.320
story sir they can go on my twitter at abraham hamaday a-b-r-a-h-a-m-h-a-m-a-d-e-h thank you steve
00:42:04.520
abe thank you for joining us do we have a cold open for uh for joe allen joe allen's always got
00:42:11.880
a cold open joe allen's the hardest working guy in showbiz okay let's play the cold open and bring
00:42:16.600
joe in back in the 1960s there had been optimistic dreams that it would be possible to develop
00:42:22.200
computers that could think like human beings one computer scientist at mit became so disillusioned
00:42:29.480
that he decided to build a computer program that would parody these hopeless attempts he was called
00:42:35.000
joseph weisenbaum and he built what he claimed was a computer psychotherapist he modeled it on a real
00:42:41.960
psychotherapist called carl rogers who was famous for simply repeating back to the patient what they
00:42:47.480
had just said men are all alike in what way they're always bugging us about something or other can you
00:42:55.320
think of a specific example well my boyfriend made me come here your boyfriend made you come here
00:43:03.320
and i asked her to my office and sat her down at the keyboard and then she began to type and of course
00:43:08.040
i looked over her shoulder to make sure that everything was operating properly after two or
00:43:12.360
three interchanges with with the machine she turned to me and she said would you mind leaving the room
00:43:17.320
please but yet she knew as weisenbaum did that eliza didn't understand a single word that was being
00:43:25.240
typed into it weisenbaum was astonished he discovered that everyone who tried eliza became
00:43:31.240
engrossed they would sit for hours telling the machine about their inner feelings and incredibly
00:43:37.480
intimate details of their lives they also liked it because it was free of any kind of patronizing
00:43:44.280
elitism one person said after all the computer doesn't burn out look down on you
00:43:51.800
or try to have sex with you and we've always had sort of these ethical considerations as fundamental
00:43:57.720
at deep mind um and my current thinking on the language models is and and large models is they're
00:44:03.480
not ready we don't understand them well enough yet um and in you know in terms of analysis tools and
00:44:09.240
and guardrails what they can and can't do and so on to deploy them at scale because i think you know
00:44:15.480
there are big still ethical questions like should an ai system always announce that it is an ai system to
00:44:20.280
begin with probably yes um it what what do you do about answering those philosophical questions about
00:44:26.120
the feelings uh people may have about ai systems perhaps incorrectly attributed so i think there's
00:44:31.480
a whole bunch of research that needs to be done first um to responsibly before you know you can
00:44:37.160
responsibly deploy these systems at scale that will be at least be my um current position uh and then
00:44:42.440
of course there's an additional uh uh thing that has to be overcome with ai that eventually it may have
00:44:47.320
its own agency so it could be uh a good or bad in in of itself so i think these questions have to be
00:44:54.680
approached very carefully not live a b testing out in the world because with powerful dual technologies
00:45:01.080
like ai um if something goes wrong it may cause you know a lot of harm before you can fix it
00:45:08.920
okay joe allen what did we just see but whenever i hear the the the phrase it has its own agency or
00:45:15.000
what have its own agency around robots computers or ai i start to get very nervous joe allen
00:45:21.880
well you know steve before we go back into the video i should go ahead and announce that google uh
00:45:27.000
just announced that they'll be releasing lambda into the wild uh lambda was the computer system
00:45:33.240
that their uh ai ethicist claimed was conscious they'll be calling it bard and they they'll be doing
00:45:40.920
small-scale testing uh for the next couple of weeks and then assuming everything goes well a
00:45:47.000
few weeks later they will release it uh to the general public in limited forms so uh going back
00:45:54.280
to who we just heard that was uh dimming oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa slow down slow
00:46:00.680
down you don't bury the lead i didn't realize when you sent me the thing at bard that that was lambda the the
00:46:06.520
one that the computer scientists the artificial intelligence experts came up what about six
00:46:11.080
months ago and said it had actual consciousness and it was so controversial lambda is actually
00:46:17.080
renamed that's the google bard is is lambda that's right uh it'll be based off of lambda i don't know
00:46:23.400
if they'll put limitations on it that uh were not in place when uh the a.i ethicist uh blake
00:46:29.240
lemoine was was testing it out and decided that it was conscious uh it's something that we should
00:46:34.600
really maybe reiterate here that guy blake lemoine you know he is a gnostic priest and uh an occultist
00:46:43.080
and so aside from being an a.i ethicist trying to root out racism sexism and homophobia uh he also
00:46:50.200
has a very kind of spiritual perspective or an occultic perspective on on this this computer system so
00:46:58.040
yes uh despite all of the worries that uh the ethicists at google had despite the worries just
00:47:04.440
this voice that we just heard from uh deep minds ceo demis asabas uh they will be uh rolling it out
00:47:12.200
i think largely in response to chat gpt coming out and so you know if if microsoft and open ai are going
00:47:19.880
to join forces to push this out there i think uh google doesn't want to get left behind on a system
00:47:26.040
that they ultimately design but but but but hang on but hang on this exactly what we are this is what we
00:47:31.400
argued about the the the the competition the arms race is that when people see commercial advantage
00:47:37.880
just like they're seeing geo they're seeing uh national security advantage behind the scenes in
00:47:42.280
this stuff that this was what was going to trigger the opening of the floodgates right now i mean lambda
00:47:48.440
was the most controversial thing and it was looked like it had to go back into the lab and you know we've
00:47:52.920
had this guy deep mind we know that he has certain he's the head of it for google and he has some big
00:47:59.560
problems with his own creations now you're saying that actual uh lambda renamed bard in some form that
00:48:07.240
was so controversial just six months ago because all of a sudden chat gpt goes to davos and wows davos
00:48:14.680
man right the next thing you know we're unleashing now we're gonna see a torrent of uh of of really
00:48:21.080
unregulated artificial intelligence flooding uh the commercial space sir that appears to be the case and i
00:48:29.160
i don't want to over complicate it steve but uh there are two really big ai programs at google you've
00:48:35.240
got google ai and you've got deep mind i believe lambda is under google ai so you know the demis
00:48:43.160
asabas is kind of speaking from outside of that system if i'm not mistaken so uh yeah you know that
00:48:50.520
that competition angle that you're talking about really is what is driving this forward and also kind of
00:48:55.720
driving forward the irresponsible deployment of all of this the argument from within the u.s and
00:49:01.960
within the west is if we don't do it china will do it and then from within silicon valley itself uh you
00:49:07.960
know if microsoft if we don't do it then uh you know google will do it now google's saying now that
00:49:14.760
microsoft is doing it we had better do it to stay uh competitive so yeah this is i i cannot overstate
00:49:24.200
how big of a deal it is that you have all of these large language models being released all at once
00:49:30.600
and they're so heavy and interactive the problem that we've identified since i first came on the show
00:49:37.160
the sort of deep human machine relationship is at the core of the transhumanist ideology uh that is going
00:49:44.280
to be unleashed on society as a whole across the world and some number of people hopefully a small
00:49:51.880
and controllable minority will undoubtedly develop these sorts of deep relationships with these
00:49:58.440
machines and as we've seen with chat gpt as that gets skewed towards a certain ideological goal it
00:50:06.760
just makes it that much easier for technocrats to control the social psychology as a whole so people
00:50:14.200
better buckle up it's not happening it's not it's not going to be a small piece we only got about 90 seconds
00:50:20.520
left go back to the early part of your cold open where they're talking about people actually getting
00:50:24.680
personal relationships uh with uh with the very early stages of what was it called eliza
00:50:31.480
that's right that's eliza and that was in the 60s it was developed by joseph weisenbaum at mit
00:50:37.160
and the interesting thing about weisenbaum having done this right he actually became very very critical of
00:50:44.280
artificial intelligence as a project a computerized society as a whole a very interesting character
00:50:50.440
but that deep relationship that you saw there i mean this is occurring in the 60s right they already knew
00:50:56.680
people working in this tech that's this this technological field already knew that human beings would have
00:51:02.840
a propensity to kind of divulge their secrets to the machine that's what we've seen with google that's what we see on
00:51:09.880
social media and that is undoubtedly what we're going to see with chat gpt and now with bard or lambda
00:51:17.320
depending on what you want to call it from google joe how do people get to your writings we'll have
00:51:23.000
you back on tomorrow how do people get to you that's joebot.xyz warroom.org under the transhumanism tab
00:51:30.680
and of course my social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z
00:51:37.880
uh joe allen thank you very much appreciate it we'll see you back on the show tomorrow
00:51:42.360
thank you very much now everything transhumanist explodes we could do all four hours a day just on
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00:52:35.160
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