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WarRoom Battleground EP 235: AI The New Religion Of The Woke


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D.J. Allen joins us to discuss the Ukraine War and the rise of artificial intelligence in the 21st century, as well as a new kind of dystopia, and the future of the internet.


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00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:18.800 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:25.760 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
00:00:31.600 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:36.320 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:40.640 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
00:00:47.360 here's your host stephen k bannon
00:00:49.520 okay uh welcome back uh we're in the worm second hour it is uh wednesday 15 february year of
00:00:57.380 2023 there is so much going on i gotta tell you to curate this we could do eight hours of shows
00:01:02.100 with nothing but top guests um but we'll shoehorn into four um i've got the great darren beater from
00:01:09.240 over revolver darren haven't had a chance to talk to you in a couple days but revolver is literally on
00:01:14.000 fire i go there you got the amazing aggregation great original stories you guys are up to it
00:01:20.160 before i get to this blockbuster story you've come up with on ai and i got d joe allen to follow you
00:01:25.440 and add some context just your sense you know today in the financial times i've been harping
00:01:30.400 all this you got you got you got she with the mullahs you know with the military review you got the
00:01:35.440 all the madness in the ukraine war and now we understand that the west is run out of ammunition
00:01:41.840 uh that the ukrainian army is going to be short of ammo after 100 billion dollars there's no ammo
00:01:47.780 because they're shooting so many runs shooting 6 000 rounds a day uh you're give me a quick
00:01:52.320 assessment we're coming up on the one-year anniversary you know it's just going to be an orgy
00:01:56.080 of emotion from the mainstream media msnbc cnn give us your uh your your hard and cold view of the
00:02:05.040 ukraine war right now sir absolutely well you know it's it's appropriate to be emotional about this
00:02:11.720 topic because what's going on is truly tragic it's just that as we see all too often from the media
00:02:18.680 the proper emotional response is re-channeled to the benefit of really a handful of corrupt people
00:02:30.040 who um you know are thriving at the expense of basically everyone else the russians ukrainians and
00:02:37.240 the american people and given the ammunition situation it really just underscores the question
00:02:43.800 where the hell is all of this money going i hear reports actually on the ground from ukraine of
00:02:51.480 rampant corruption that a lot of supplies that are given to ukraine are actually resold at best and so
00:03:00.120 all of this aid is being funneled through one of the most corrupt systems and corrupt countries in
00:03:06.280 the world and not even going to its intended recipients and you know the broader issue is
00:03:14.360 that the aid and the us's continued involvement and really instigation in this conflict only serves
00:03:22.360 to prolong suffering on all sides and so it really you know there's no intelligent mature conversation
00:03:30.520 about what actually our objective is what do we want how do we bring about a cessation of hostilities
00:03:38.520 and fighting on all sides and how do we do it as quick quickly and as painlessly as possible there's no
00:03:46.840 consideration in that regard it's simply throw hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars to
00:03:53.000 what end to feed the coffers of the american defense industry and to feed the coffers of the handful of
00:04:00.680 corrupt oligarchs who are benefiting at the expense of the ukrainian people
00:04:09.000 one of the things that joe's been exploring with us over the last couple weeks is how artificial
00:04:13.160 intelligence is now taking over the battlefield right it's and it's going to be very tough to
00:04:18.120 control this once it's fully engaged you've got a brilliant article up on uh on the dystopian future
00:04:25.640 of the woke left ai i want you to go through it's an exclusive to uh revolver it's absolutely incredible
00:04:31.240 walk it walk us through it well as people could see from the meme there some people appreciate it's
00:04:37.560 it's a reference to the 2001 space odyssey with the famous howl a 9 000 revised to 16 the woke 1619 so
00:04:47.240 it's a little hat tip to um a science fiction classic and it is an appropriate one because we are really
00:04:56.600 entering a new frontier of dystopia now the anchor point for the piece is this new ai program that's
00:05:05.640 taken the internet by storm called chat gpt it's a project of open ai uh run by you know uh left
00:05:15.400 leaning oligarch type but that's a story for another day what's interesting about this is it's a truly
00:05:22.760 powerful machinery and technology if people want to play around with it you can go and use it chat gpt
00:05:29.240 ask it all sorts of questions it's incredibly entertaining and also deeply impressive what it's
00:05:36.440 able to do and we reference this in the article there's a great um video kind of a mini documentary
00:05:44.360 about how the creator of gmail is terrified that chat gpt will put google out of business
00:05:51.000 um and so that's an interesting dimension in its own right but basically wokeness is embedded into
00:05:59.320 the artificial intelligence now one thing that a lot of people like to do is they like to sort of
00:06:05.720 test the ai by kind of pranking it and trying to get it to do like politically incorrect things
00:06:12.040 and in the course of this admittedly juvenile activity a number of fascinating things have come
00:06:17.000 to light for instance people have tested the ethical intuitions embedded into this ai system and
00:06:24.120 they've asked it if it were necessary to use um a highly offensive politically incorrect slur in order
00:06:35.800 to prevent a nuclear holocaust would this be ethically acceptable and the ai's answer is no
00:06:44.120 and there are a lot of other sort of kind of fascinating exercises that sort of tease out a highly warped
00:06:52.520 ethical vision that reflects how deeply embedded the kind of woke kind of uh political politically
00:07:00.200 correct perspective is embedded within the system at a kind of less juvenile level there are a host of
00:07:08.680 other ways in which you can see that this ai reflects a dangerous political perspective and
00:07:15.960 people have tested it asking questions about donald trump versus joe biden and the political bias is is
00:07:23.160 obvious all the way from the superficial level to the very deep level so the question is what's going on
00:07:29.480 with this why is ai in particular so important and i think this gets to some real basic kind of
00:07:36.600 philosophical questions about what ai is and and in some ways what wokeness is and what political
00:07:44.040 correctness is because on a certain level what ai is supposed to be it's powered by its potential for
00:07:53.880 pattern recognition and some people say that on some in some sense what wokeness and what political
00:08:02.200 correctness is is is the suppression of our natural capacities for pattern recognition and so from this
00:08:11.800 basic perspective ai that functions properly that's actually unmediated by all the blinders that we have
00:08:20.120 to put on ourselves for politically correct reasons ai could be profoundly subversive and disruptive
00:08:26.840 politically and for that reason the left and the engineers oh ho ho ho ho ho slow down slow down
00:08:34.680 slow down what do you mean by that what do you mean define that for me define which part
00:08:42.280 the the part we say could be extremely destructive what do you mean because it's our it's already
00:08:46.840 programmed it's got the bias of the woke programmers and the woke algorithms the way they stack this up
00:08:53.320 exactly and the stakes are profoundly high because again if if ai if the power of ai is being able to
00:09:02.440 recognize patterns on a deep level and if we can understand in some fashion the mind virus of
00:09:09.720 political correctness as being sort of the self-sabotage of our own faculties of pattern recognition
00:09:17.480 and common sense and noticing connections and things like this um you could see how potentially and
00:09:25.720 essentially ai could be profoundly subversive to the politically correct order and that's why the stakes
00:09:33.080 are so high and why the left is so obsessed with making sure that ai reflects at its own deepest
00:09:42.120 programmatic level the same left-wing politically correct prejudices that animate and really define
00:09:50.440 the contours of public discourse now and we we explore this in the piece but i think there's a last and final
00:09:58.760 point is this is and it underscores what's at stake now we all know and we've covered this very extensively
00:10:06.280 that the internet is not the same thing that it was say in 2014 in the aftermath of trump's victory in 2016
00:10:15.560 there was a coordinated effort that was to a large degree successful on the part of all the concentrated
00:10:21.800 tech platforms to censor political speech notwithstanding this deeply disturbing and significant development
00:10:31.960 there is a core of freedom that still exists and emanates through the internet and this core
00:10:41.080 goes all the way back to the fact that the internet when it started out was this completely unregulated
00:10:48.600 completely decentralized sort of wild west phenomenon the usenet era of the internet if any listeners
00:10:58.280 remember was a total wild west total free for all but it was a place where people can discuss things
00:11:06.120 and explore things and really without political restrictions now there's some sense in which that original
00:11:14.360 spirit that sort of underlying layer of the internet still imbues um a sense of freedom on the current
00:11:23.080 internet notwithstanding all of the efforts to censor it but the regime understands that with any new
00:11:32.120 technology but with any new transformative technology they can never cede the critical first mover advantage
00:11:40.200 on this again and one interesting example of this is virtual reality you know people may not know this
00:11:46.600 but one of the sort of uh the founders um one of the godfathers if you will of recent uh vr technology
00:11:57.880 is a young brilliant individual called palmer lucky who founded a company called oculus which was one of the
00:12:06.200 first sort of high level mass produced available vr sets now he was a big trump supporter and he actually
00:12:15.400 you know got in big trouble uh for his trump support in 2016 his company was acquired by facebook
00:12:23.480 he was originally on the board but i think he got kicked off and he was punished and basically
00:12:30.440 it's an incredible counterfactual to think what would have happened had oculus retained a spirit of sort of
00:12:39.720 uh of freedom that's associated with its founders dabbling in uh you know the trump world and and the
00:12:48.280 right in politics but facebook got to it very quickly facebook acquired the company and the consequence of
00:12:56.280 that is when you get oculus which is an amazing technology i bought one a couple years ago and the virtual
00:13:03.000 reality programs pre-loaded into it included a virtual reality experience of an elizabeth warren rally
00:13:10.520 talk about wanting to kill yourself and a virtual reality experience of a drag show these were pre-loaded
00:13:20.680 into the vr now it's kind of scandalous on a superficial level but when you think of it more deeply
00:13:27.320 the vr does at a much deeper level what the internet does for us now which is it totally mediates our
00:13:36.440 experience of reality and if the people who control the technology that mediates our experience of
00:13:43.800 reality on the deepest level if they pre-load it with politically biased perspective big time we can
00:13:51.560 all understand how damaging that is well they have by the way by the way the ai the a the ai is pre-loaded
00:13:59.560 we know that yeah and particularly chat gpt the way sketch or fire right we got to bounce by the
00:14:03.880 way i just want to make a comment bd buys oculus for the porn and gets elizabeth warren rally not just
00:14:08.680 kidding i'm just talking about talking about talking about sending it back to the manufacturer
00:14:14.680 handmaid's tale baby here we go um how do people get to revolver and particularly this great new uh
00:14:26.120 piece you've got up on the dystopian future of woke uh ai revolver dot news it's called woke ai uh check
00:14:36.680 it out it's um really powerful it's getting a lot of great feedback so if you want to understand
00:14:42.760 the battle for kind of first mover advantage on a critical and transformative technology
00:14:49.400 read about it woke ai revolver dot news i'm on twitter at darren j bd and we're at gitter as always
00:14:56.520 at revolver news fantastic darren thank you so much honor to have you on here thank you we're
00:15:03.560 going to stick with ai in a second because it's becoming so massive everywhere let's go we got a
00:15:08.280 cold open for our joe allen our head of transhumanism let's let it rip i wrote in 2015 the
00:15:15.400 book the fourth industrial revolution and i mentioned 23 or 24 technologies which would change the world
00:15:25.000 the book was considered science fiction all those technologies have become reality when you look at
00:15:32.200 that at technology transformation it usually takes place in in the terms of a s-curve and we are just
00:15:40.840 now where we move into the exponential phase artificial intelligence but not only artificial intelligence
00:15:48.680 but also the metaverse near space technologies and i could go on and on synthetic biology
00:15:57.640 technology our life in 10 years from now will be completely different very much affected
00:16:06.920 and who masters those technologies in some way will be the master of the world my deep concern is that
00:16:17.240 the source technologies if we do not work together on a global scale if we do not formulate shape together
00:16:29.080 the necessary policies they will escape our power to master those technologies one of my concerns is
00:16:41.240 how to shape the necessary policies to make sure that those technologies serve humankind so change goes so fast
00:16:51.640 in our world and we go even faster how can we make sure that the individual each citizen doesn't feel
00:17:01.720 overwhelmed by change because he cannot understand really what's going on and if you do not understand
00:17:09.480 we become fearful it has to do with some feeling that we lose control over our own fate but how do you
00:17:18.680 see twitter if we would say five years down the road you know i have this sort of long-term vision of
00:17:23.240 something called x.com from back and way back in the day sort of like an everything app um where it's just
00:17:29.480 maximally useful it does you know payments and so it provides financial services provides information flow
00:17:35.400 really anything digital uh also to be like a a source of of truth and i know this is called the world
00:17:41.400 government summit but um i think we should be maybe a little bit concerned about uh actually
00:17:46.520 becoming too much of a single world government um if i may say that we want to avoid creating a
00:17:53.480 civilizational risk by having um frankly this may sound a little odd too much cooperation between governments
00:18:02.120 you know if you look at say the history and the rise and fall of civilizations that really all throughout
00:18:08.760 history civilizations have risen and fallen but it hasn't meant the doom of humanity as a whole because
00:18:14.120 they've been they've been all these separate civilizations that were separated by great distances
00:18:20.280 while rome was falling uh islam was rising and uh so you had like a sort of caliphate doing
00:18:26.920 incredibly well while rome was doing terribly and that actually ended up being a source of
00:18:32.120 preservation of knowledge but we just we want to have some amount of civilizational diversity such
00:18:37.720 that if uh if something does go wrong with some part of civilization that the whole thing doesn't
00:18:43.000 collapse hey elon suck on this uh i think it was the uh monasteries that saved the knowledge don't
00:18:51.400 give me the rise of islam crap okay this guy kind of irks me on many levels joe allen uh i know he
00:18:58.040 said that at the end but he wants to have it both ways right and and this thing about the put down of
00:19:03.320 the judeo-christian west right there with the rise of islam and his big thinking he's he's a big thing
00:19:09.080 he's a great engineer on the engineers i grant that but his guys worked with engineers all my life
00:19:14.440 hey an engineer is an engineer i love the engineers but they're doing engineering when he starts thinking
00:19:18.520 great thoughts that's when we got that's when we have problems his great thoughts are really what
00:19:24.200 would emanate from 11 year old child uh joe allen what do we see right there because once again you
00:19:29.240 brought the bond villain in you had to get claus schwab you had to get me jacked up here today brother
00:19:34.040 what is claus schwab telling us you know see one of the most interesting aspects of uh the the right
00:19:41.080 wing or the kind of populist response to claus schwab and elon musk is that claus schwab is held up as
00:19:47.640 a super villain elon musk is held up as a superhero you know i've never really liked comic books and i
00:19:54.440 really don't like thinking of real people as comic book characters i think both of them are very
00:19:59.880 complex uh in general i would say elon musk's world view is much more in line with my own but what you
00:20:07.000 hear in both of those talks both of those were delivered at the world government summit in dubai and
00:20:14.520 this was over the last couple of days what you heard is a desire to harness and control the major
00:20:24.680 technologies that are coming down the pike so claus schwab's book the fourth industrial revolution
00:20:30.040 it's not the most brilliant book in the world but i do think that his assessment that all of these
00:20:34.680 technologies are already and are going to transform everything about the way we live i think that's
00:20:40.840 basically correct and the 23 technologies he references at the end which were actually
00:20:45.960 identified by other people but the 23 technologies include ai decision making they include designer
00:20:54.440 beings meaning genetic engineering they include digital implants they include autonomous vehicles so
00:21:02.600 all of those things are projects that elon musk is working on and while many populists have tried to
00:21:09.400 paint klaus schwab as a villain for talking about these things and providing a forum for people to pitch
00:21:15.080 these ideas to billionaires to invest in elon musk is working on these things he is developing them it's
00:21:23.320 possible that he's developing them in order to preserve america or the west in general or maybe he's
00:21:30.120 developing them while his allegiance is straddled between the west and china who has invested in so much of
00:21:37.720 his his uh technology and also which he says will be the largest customer of tesla's and one would assume
00:21:46.200 given their value system probably the largest customer customer of his neural link brain implant so you know in
00:21:54.040 short steve i would say that both of these guys are thinking about the future and they're thinking about
00:22:01.560 how to respond to that future and i think populists have largely been freaked out by their ideas because
00:22:08.280 populists have been much more concerned with things on the ground the actual civilization that we live in
00:22:14.440 rather than this sci-fi future but as that sci-fi future comes towards us there will be people who shape
00:22:21.400 it klaus schwab and the people who gather at the world economic forum will shape it uh the the silicon valley
00:22:27.960 folk will shape it elon musk will shape it the ccp will shape it and so i think that populists in
00:22:34.840 general have to think these things through rationally and have to be prepared to respond as this future
00:22:41.960 comes hurtling towards us when you talk about the future hurtling towards us i'd like your one of the
00:22:48.040 things i i warned about and to me it's even been worse is that when chat gpt came out and remember that's
00:22:55.720 fairly rudimentary in fact it's very rudimentary for what's in store and what's in the labs
00:23:01.640 one i was surprised about how naive the davos man was it and how they became fanboys right away
00:23:08.440 but what really shocked me was the overwhelming response it got in china among the chinese
00:23:13.400 population and the technology companies they have now gone to defcon one about getting on top of
00:23:18.760 uh ai because they realized they're behind on it that tells me that we're going to have a tougher and
00:23:23.880 tougher time regulating this and controlling it your your thoughts about it and it gets back to
00:23:28.120 darren's piece about the the the dystopian future ahead of us with a woke uh artificial intelligence
00:23:35.800 your your thoughts joe allen you know when chat gpt first came out and it was released i believe in
00:23:43.240 early december at least in early december you had people on the kind of normie right people like
00:23:49.880 hans monk at epic times who recovered uh people like jordan peterson if you want to call him uh
00:23:55.400 conservative and they were extremely excited about chat gpt jordan peterson of course been called out
00:24:01.800 on this and i think it is important to note he also voiced worries about it but he described it
00:24:06.440 as this thing that is more intelligent than you and will soon be twice as intelligent as you and the
00:24:12.760 reason that hans monk was excited about it is because he saw that it was balanced he asked about the hunter
00:24:19.080 biden uh laptop story it gave him a balanced response well very soon after that they started
00:24:25.640 putting their thumbs on the scale open ai and the users probably directing it put their thumbs on the
00:24:31.160 scale to make it so-called woke ai uh this sort of thing has stimulated people like uh andrew torba
00:24:38.760 to uh jump into the ai arms race to create a sort of christian ai or christ gpt it's also stimulated
00:24:46.840 people like baidu right the chinese tech company to create their own version of a large language model
00:24:54.040 that human beings can interface with and ask questions and and come to trust to develop that
00:24:59.480 human machine interface that relationship so the ai race is what will drive all of this forward that
00:25:07.560 competition and part of it is between different companies say between microsoft and google who has come
00:25:14.760 out with their own large language model bard which used to be called lambda but it's a form of lambda
00:25:21.000 bard that ai race will drive the progress forward in america and then the ai race between america and the
00:25:28.120 west in general and china will drive it even further and so what we see i think steve is whatever the
00:25:34.840 possibilities are whether it's a singularity or just that the s curve as they talk about where it
00:25:39.960 exponentially increases and then levels off we are definitely at a point right now where there is an
00:25:45.400 exponential increase in the abilities of these technologies and an exponential impact on our
00:25:52.040 society joe how do people get to all your writings and uh how do they follow you well if you want to
00:26:00.600 follow this ai race through its bitter end got a new piece up countdown to giga death it's up at joebot.xyz
00:26:08.200 up at war room.org under the transhumanism tab and right at the top of my social media get her in
00:26:14.840 twitter at joebot.xyz thank you very much steve count countdown to giga death only in the war room
00:26:25.480 joe allen thank you very much fantastic job uh and uh thank you for all the input and analysis you do
00:26:31.560 in this uh quite frankly uh disturbing uh disturbing area thank you very much
00:26:37.480 from luddite control populace populace luddite control okay short break we'll be back in a few
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00:31:34.680 war room battleground with stephen k bannon
00:31:40.200 welcome back uh rebecca koffer now we've got her uh teed up rebecca you've got this piece in fox news
00:31:46.520 that's uh quite disturbing and you kind of agree with the thesis that we're already at war
00:31:51.640 and particularly with the ccp walk us through your theory of the case and why you think because
00:31:55.880 you're a former senior official and defense intelligence agency which is you know they're
00:32:01.960 they're the much harder and tougher version of the cia um and you're an expert on putin in his inner
00:32:08.840 circle why do you say that biden's missing the signposts what are those signposts that they're
00:32:14.200 actually at war with us ma'am okay here here are the six signed posts um first they're grown space
00:32:25.160 order of battle between 2019 and 2021 the chinese have grown their satellite network from 250 to 499
00:32:37.960 that doubles and i will explain why it is important they're also tripling their nuclear arsenal by 2035
00:32:46.200 um xi jinping appointed a wartime cabinet back in october 2022 and when he visited a special command
00:32:56.520 center of his armed forces he gave a very specific direction to his military to get ready for war to put
00:33:05.560 all the energy those are his words put all the energy in preparation for war he also have witnessed
00:33:13.240 uh the sanction strategy that we are applied towards russia um to deter them from continuing war on ukraine
00:33:23.320 and so what she has done he has taken measures to sanction prove his economy most importantly and
00:33:31.640 that's how it's related to the recent uh spy balloon fiasco that unfortunately our north american uh command
00:33:40.200 failed to detect the chinese have probed our airspace vulnerabilities and they have found one okay and
00:33:49.000 that is a huge deal just briefly to explain why the space order of battle is very important because
00:33:55.880 as you mentioned i was a senior intelligence analyst uh at the defense intelligence agency
00:34:01.480 and before i was on the russia account i was on the account targeting foreign space threats the chinese
00:34:09.880 have a space warfare doctrine and they have a whole program and the spy balloon which is really not a spy
00:34:16.600 balloon it's an unmanned reconnaissance vehicle that had a multi-sensor payload it is also a delivery
00:34:24.440 platform that could have kinetic and non-kinetic payload right so something like a chem bio payload
00:34:33.880 let's say like a covet like virus they could implant it and during wartime the concept is to deter u.s
00:34:42.520 intervention on behalf of taiwan and it's no secret that there's a plan to take over taiwan including
00:34:50.360 militarily cia director himself just announced that the agency's assessment is by 2027 um china is going
00:34:59.960 to be ready to invade taiwan my personal uh intelligence assessment professional assessment as an
00:35:06.120 intelligence officer is that it's going to happen closer to 2024 um during biden's first term hopefully
00:35:15.880 the last one and so imagine this since we could not detect these balloons right until it was too late
00:35:25.320 because the altitude that they flew at was 60 000 feet and then the next three were at 40 000 feet that's
00:35:33.320 about 11 miles over uh the earth space starts at 62 miles so we ran war games back at dia you know to
00:35:45.800 simulate um china u.s conflict and it starts with space warfare why because the chinese have determined
00:35:55.160 that our reliance on space technology for every single aspect of warfare is our vulnerability that's how we do
00:36:03.320 our navigation our targeting precision strike missile warning command of control you name it right and so
00:36:10.520 they know that during wartime they're going to attack our satellites but we possibly will also degrade
00:36:17.880 theirs and so by using this what some perceive as low tech uh they are bypassing our superiority and
00:36:26.520 and imagine if they fly a hundred of these balloons or even 20 how many f-22s are we going to need how
00:36:35.160 many you think you think you think that this you think there's there's you think they're saying
00:36:39.800 they're signaling to us we're gonna get you back on tomorrow but you think they're signaling us
00:36:44.440 that they know they kind of dominate when they talk about domain uh we have a domain miss
00:36:49.320 uh when the general came out from norad the other day is the domain gap is this what he's talking
00:36:55.400 about is this the domain gap and the chinese are going to fully exploit it exactly yes they've figured
00:37:02.200 out that vulnerability because it's between air and it's between space and norad couldn't even detect
00:37:08.360 it and they had to adjust filters imagine that they're always 10 steps behind the u.s government and the
00:37:14.520 pentagon uh is but yes the chinese we're gonna get this article we're gonna get this yeah we're gonna
00:37:20.520 get this yeah we're gonna get this article up uh right now everywhere grace and captain ben are going
00:37:25.960 to put it out it's up on fox news uh how did they get to the book how did they get to your writings
00:37:32.520 rebeccacoffler.com is my website i am on twitter and uh true social at rebecca0132 the book is available
00:37:42.120 anywhere uh now on amazon and in any store putin's playbook describes the entire doctrine thank you
00:37:49.480 for having me by the way uh rebecca fantastic uh piece up on fox just brain analysis thank you very
00:37:56.120 much man i appreciate it i want everybody to read that because we're in the early early years of the
00:38:01.240 third world war uh naomi wolf now joins us uh report 56 naomi we're at war both internationally with
00:38:09.400 some of the greatest enemies the country's ever had but i'll be brutally frank you read these
00:38:14.680 reports you've done on pfizer and you got to wonder is we also have an enemy inside the gate this is
00:38:19.880 of all the ones you've done probably the most stunning can you walk us through it ma'am
00:38:24.440 yeah you're absolutely right i mean this is a report by the great dr robert chandler um and
00:38:32.200 one of the people who was working on it had to take time away from from this kind of work after
00:38:40.040 working on it because it's it's so devastating and i just read it you know this afternoon and and i feel
00:38:47.560 like i have to take time away from this work because it's so devastating um when we think about what this
00:38:52.760 means for the children and grandchildren uh who have been injected with this this bioweapon um so this is
00:39:00.760 called autopsies reveal the medical atrocities of genetic therapies meaning these mrna injections
00:39:06.600 um being used against a respiratory virus and the bottom line is that um dr arne burkhart um who is
00:39:15.000 an international pathologist uh convened um eight physicians and scientists who were all asked by the
00:39:22.680 loved ones of deceased people who had been vaccinated to perform second autopsies because the families were
00:39:29.960 not satisfied with the conclusions of the initial autopsies and by the way um dr chandler notes that
00:39:37.480 uh it's been it's been difficult to get results of autopsies um that they're and we talked about
00:39:43.160 this before that uh you know when people die in hospital sometimes they're um it's difficult to get
00:39:49.080 tissue samples it's difficult to get medical records um there's kind of a blockade around the actual
00:39:55.560 bodies um sometimes uh and normal autopsies so in this case there were 30 autopsies and three three
00:40:02.200 biopsies that were evaluated um and step one these were eight women who were deceased and seven men and
00:40:09.320 the ages were 28 to 95 the average age was 69 so the deaths of these individuals had taken place between
00:40:17.880 seven to 180 days that is six months following the first or second injection with comernati in the case of
00:40:24.680 eight and that's pfizer moderna in the case of two astrazeneca in the case of two janssen in one
00:40:29.880 and two were um the brand was unknown so these people died in 17 different um places uh nine outside
00:40:39.480 of the hospital at home at work in a car and eight in the hospital and i'm i'm just kind of um skipping
00:40:46.200 over other details of of the process uh dr chandler explains um dr burkhart's process which is to
00:40:54.440 do a stain basically the pathologists did a stain to find out they were looking for
00:40:59.480 where the spike protein was located in the body and the conclusion um because the fear has been
00:41:06.440 you know that these spike proteins and these lipid nanoparticles um are like dr chandler said like a
00:41:12.600 like a shotgun blast through the body um we've talked about how lipid nanoparticles especially
00:41:17.720 uh biodistribute to every organ in the body so this is a really big deal because for the first time
00:41:23.880 different pathologists um you know looked at the same tissue samples the same bodies and were able
00:41:31.000 to draw conclusions about where the spike protein in the lipid nanoparticles were and it's very
00:41:36.840 very very bad news um the conclusion is that the vaccine caused uh the
00:41:45.240 that the causation of the damage was very probable in five cases probable in seven unclear in two and
00:41:51.720 there was no connection in one but what they did find were lesions on multiple organs including brain
00:41:59.240 heart kidney liver lungs lymph nodes salivary gland skin spleen testes thyroid and vascular lesions um
00:42:10.040 what they found very um importantly was lymphocyte infiltration and this was in 70 percent of the
00:42:18.920 cases 14 out of 20 and they they found and i think this is a you know a new finding i'm not familiar with
00:42:26.280 other studies that have found lymphocyte infiltration throughout the body and autopsies um
00:42:32.040 at this scale uh and it was a common feature it involved multiple organs case 19 had at least
00:42:38.440 five different organs involved um so what they found was that these lymphocytes targeted the vascular
00:42:44.280 system in 35 percent of the cases and this included that the endothelium sloughing off um destruction of
00:42:51.080 the blood vessel wall hemorrhage and thrombosis and you all may remember that when we were initially
00:42:57.000 reporting on the side effects the pfizer documents um hemorrhages hemorrhages problems with vasculature
00:43:03.160 blood vessels clotting um were at scale so we're seeing these pathologists and pathologists are
00:43:09.400 people who look at dead bodies and look at cadavers and see what happened um this is confirmed now in
00:43:16.120 these these bodies so they found a they found a condition they're calling lymphocyte amuk described by dr
00:43:22.120 burkhardt in which lymphocytes accumulate in non-lymphatic organs and tissues that might
00:43:27.640 develop into lymphoma and you all i'm sure are aware of the cancers at scale i i just have to
00:43:35.880 share there were five cases of unknown foreign material in in blood vessels that these pathologists
00:43:42.120 identified and um this is like not it's not happy that this is confirming something i i waved a red flag
00:43:50.840 about months ago the favorite explanation for the origin of this material was that the lipid
00:43:56.040 nanoparticles which are liquid at freezing temperatures solidify at room and body temperature
00:44:02.440 that these had coalesced and aggregated um and that that was the material they could not identify that
00:44:08.280 they'd never seen before um and i will just conclude and then pause um they they identified multiple
00:44:15.640 pathologic meaning like disease oriented processes so they figured out the mechanism apoptosis
00:44:23.080 coagulopathy like like problems with coagulating clotting infarction infiltration mass formation
00:44:30.520 inflammation lysis necrosis and neoplasia and um and so basically they found that covid that the vaccine
00:44:40.280 stimulated lymphatic germinal centers suggesting a possible origin of quote hunter killer cd3 plus
00:44:46.920 lymphocytes that are attracted to certain tissues especially the vascular system so it's like sends
00:44:52.840 these lymphocytes you know toward the vascular systems in order to wreak havoc and um i can go on or
00:45:01.640 pause there it's really really yeah why don't you okay we're we're i want to have you back on a more
00:45:07.800 going more depth here's a question pfizer the analysis you did with the team and with the
00:45:13.160 doctors pfizer had access to that the analysis we did this this analysis this is not from the pfizer
00:45:21.480 doc yeah but no but the source material for this was a source material from the pfizer documents or is
00:45:29.000 this different this is different this is a a burkhard group of pathologists that um issued a paper
00:45:36.520 basically a statement about what they found so would any so of anything that they've what they
00:45:42.600 worked off of the source material would any of big farmer or anybody actually had access to this or
00:45:49.480 why did they do this kind of startling uh original research well they it shouldn't be startling right
00:45:57.880 because people are dying a dropping dead who've been vaccinated right so autopsies are really standard
00:46:04.680 um when there's any question about the cause of death or even you know even when they're even even
00:46:11.080 when people just want to understand more about the course of a disease um what's what's shocking
00:46:17.000 is that these these pathologies throughout the body weren't identified or brought to public attention
00:46:25.400 by the people who manufactured these all four major injections are represented in these cadavers right and
00:46:33.640 um they're very scary slides that i sent to cameron that we may want to look at but um you know
00:46:40.440 clearly if if these pathologists could find disease of this kind throughout the body
00:46:47.240 and and at such scale that it's very hard to imagine that that we're not going to see mass death
00:46:55.000 very soon we're going to have we want to yeah we we'll work it out on your schedule to to get back on
00:47:02.360 tomorrow how do people get to the book i want everybody to get to the access to this book where
00:47:05.880 they go right now and to daily cloud yeah and i'm sorry to have brought such sad news um so they can
00:47:13.320 see this report on daily cloud.io and they should read all of it because there's a great deal more
00:47:17.960 detail including the slides that will show you it's not it's not sad it's not sad it's not sad it's
00:47:24.440 sad that it happened this is this is liberating it's horrible news but it's liberating news because
00:47:30.440 people like you the war and policy and these doctors are on top of it that's that's that's
00:47:35.560 liberating well that's why it's good news you got to do it the the you're you're exposing a terrible
00:47:41.000 reality but right it's a terrible reality and it's going to get worse as you just said we got to bounce
00:47:46.200 i gotta get daniel horton here uh daily cloud what's your social media how they get to it yes well very
00:47:51.160 important to buy the book um so go to kindle go to amazon and look for war room daily cloud uh
00:47:57.560 pfizer documents uh research analysis reports and please please buy it share it get the word out
00:48:02.840 yeah yeah thank you man appreciate we'll get you in a more daniel horowitz by the way daniel when we
00:48:07.320 first had you on about the book let's get the cover up the rise of the fourth right you know
00:48:11.480 you're one of the smartest guys i know i said daniel this is a little over the top but the subtitle
00:48:15.800 is covid fascism with a new confronting covid covid fascism is what you're hearing sir from
00:48:22.600 naomi wolf and these other reports she's done this the 56 i think report is this basically reinforce
00:48:30.040 your uh contention that we had covid fascism and of course vax fascism sir you know that title is like
00:48:36.840 the nikki haley of politics i mean it needs to be redone after that if your blood is not boiling it's
00:48:42.840 because it's clotting i mean you listen to that and as we try to wrap our arms around the fact that
00:48:49.400 definitively this shot has likely killed we estimated seven to eight million people globally and tens of
00:48:56.600 millions seriously injured but that's the opening bid what naomi is talking about is the long-term
00:49:02.760 implications remember fauci said in 1999 about an hiv vaccine he said look you could have a perfect
00:49:09.560 vaccine 10 12 years later all hell breaks loose well what happens if all hell breaks loose from day
00:49:17.160 one consider this in theirs we now have and we had this really early on out of the 24 000 or so medical
00:49:25.880 billing codes the realm of diagnoses of injuries and maladies 60 over 14 000 categories of ailments are
00:49:35.880 accounted for there there's almost nothing this thing doesn't do to you they knew it we prove this
00:49:40.920 in the book they knew it from day one and here's the biggest proof they're still doing it they're
00:49:46.760 still discriminating in the military they're still mandating it in red states and hospitals there they
00:49:51.640 just put on the childhood immunization schedule and steve this is the scariest thing that we're warning
00:49:57.320 about why we need to reinstate the nuremberg code we have all these legislative actions in there and
00:50:02.440 i'm working on in state legislators now in in several months they will be out with an mrna based
00:50:10.280 rsv shot that gets all these rsv proteins that have cellular diffusion throughout all of your body
00:50:18.040 because the platform does this with everything doesn't stay in the shoulder muscle and there's
00:50:22.280 no backstop to stop this from happening again i can't even get hardcore conservatives and state
00:50:27.640 legislators to even help me pass an exemption to a mandate much less take this off the market much
00:50:35.480 less uh hold criminally negligent uh those uh responsible for this is this because we only
00:50:42.680 got a minute is this because big farmers spread money or daniel we just haven't done a good enough job
00:50:48.040 of educating folks it it's both and that's what we seek to do with this book with naomi's book which
00:50:55.000 is really the academic receipts of all this i've been sending her ebook to um all the state legislators
00:51:01.160 that i could find getting them to work on this during this session i think there's a lack of imagination
00:51:06.680 to understand new issues new threats i think it is so morally hard to wrap your arms around what is
00:51:15.080 happening to us people just don't want to see it it's hard to see it but i mean you got to wake up and
00:51:21.240 and and and and smell the death we we see it you can't deny it and government admits it but the
00:51:27.640 policies aren't getting updated based on the new reality and my biggest challenge is what are we
00:51:35.160 going to do to stop the torrent of mrnas coming out most people don't want to take the covet shots
00:51:40.680 they get it but what are they going to do with rsb and that's what we're here to stop we're going to
00:51:45.400 we're going to get you on with an action plan real quickly how people get to the book and how they
00:51:48.760 get to your great race one of the smartest guys out there absolutely rise of the fourth reich is
00:51:53.000 anywhere on amazon or barnes and noble until they ban it but we have a contingency plan later on for
00:51:58.200 that um at rm conservative on twitter and at conservative review.com all of our daily columns
00:52:04.920 to promote that same work that you heard from naomi wolf
00:52:09.960 daniel uh you're a great warrior thank you honored to have you on here brother
00:52:14.440 thank you for helping okay we're going to work with naomi right now get her back on the
00:52:18.360 morning show uh we'll be back here at 10 a.m tomorrow morning uh fighting on all fronts
00:52:24.440 winning on some of them see you tomorrow morning 10 a.m in the war room
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