Bannon's War Room - February 17, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 236： Lack Of Responsibility And The Abandoning Of Ohioans


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On today's show, we have special guest Michael Patrick Leahy of the Star-News Network and the Ohio Star and Nick Sartor of the East Ohio Roundtable join us to talk about the latest in the unfolding disaster in the wake of Tropical Storm Dorian.

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00:02:18.540 Okay, it's Thursday, 16 February, year of our Lord, 2023, and all the tumult and, you
00:02:36.600 know, things we talk about every day, we try to talk about the signal, not the noise, to
00:02:40.400 make sure we don't waste your time.
00:02:41.560 There's something very important going on in Wilmore, Kentucky, looks like an awakening
00:02:46.620 or visitation by the Holy Spirit.
00:02:48.540 I think the young people have been out there now for eight days plus, and those things
00:02:52.980 continue on at Ashbury University.
00:02:55.160 We'll get more details of that hopefully tomorrow, some on-site.
00:02:59.580 But it's the great heartland of this country, right there in bluegrass country in Kentucky.
00:03:05.340 Not too far away, I want to go to Michael Patrick Leahy, the founder of the Star News Network
00:03:10.380 and the Ohio Star.
00:03:11.900 He's got all these papers all across the country.
00:03:14.200 Leahy, this is kind of why you were at Breitbart and doing a great job.
00:03:17.140 The reason you kind of left is to do this, to make sure that you had these kind of local,
00:03:20.740 you're one of the believers.
00:03:22.760 And of course, all the smart guys in the business now, actually, as everybody's following you,
00:03:26.140 you're the first to sit there and go, I think we really ought to focus on local news in these
00:03:31.240 battleground states.
00:03:32.040 And you've been in Ohio.
00:03:32.960 This is, it's just outrageous what's going on there, because this is the deplorables.
00:03:39.460 That little town is kind of the, you just see, that is America right there.
00:03:43.680 That is America in the 21st century.
00:03:45.880 And we're going to play some clips here in a second.
00:03:48.240 We've also got Nick Sartor is going to join us from East Ohio.
00:03:53.600 He's covering out there.
00:03:54.580 He's a co-host of the Roundtable.
00:03:56.460 He's going to join us.
00:03:57.420 Michael, get the audience up to speeds.
00:03:59.740 What's the latest in this drama that is unfolding, sir?
00:04:03.580 There's a very kind of odd situation.
00:04:06.940 Governor Mike DeWine has yet to declare it a disaster.
00:04:11.220 There's a process whereby a governor declares a disaster, either a natural disaster from a hurricane
00:04:17.640 or just an ordinary disaster from something that's not weather related.
00:04:22.920 And he's got to declare it.
00:04:24.540 It goes to FEMA and they either accept it or reject it.
00:04:28.380 But he's not declared a disaster yet, even though Senator Sherrod Brown, a Democrat, wrote
00:04:35.900 him a letter this morning and said, you really should declare this a disaster.
00:04:39.360 It's very odd.
00:04:40.780 He put out a statement from his press secretary today, Dan Tierney, that, well, we weren't
00:04:46.140 getting enough money from FEMA.
00:04:48.020 Well, you have to declare the disaster first.
00:04:50.880 And he's resisted that.
00:04:53.120 On testing, he said that, well, Norfolk Southern is paying for the testing, so we don't need
00:04:59.540 federal money for that.
00:05:00.900 Are you kidding me?
00:05:02.160 I mean, Norfolk Southern is, according to reports, they're not doing the testing of water
00:05:07.780 in East Palestine unless the resident there signs a waiver.
00:05:11.520 It's just crazy.
00:05:12.280 It seems to me that DeWine has been very, very slow to respond here, and I don't think
00:05:19.260 he really wants anybody else in on the deal.
00:05:21.860 I think it's a big mistake on his part.
00:05:25.080 Well, to declare a disaster, you have to put together the timeline.
00:05:28.740 You've got to actually, when you put the disaster, here's what happened when, this is
00:05:32.360 why it's a disaster.
00:05:33.820 He don't want to put any timeline on there.
00:05:36.380 Trust me.
00:05:36.860 They don't want to be, he doesn't want anybody snooping around.
00:05:39.000 He just wants this thing to go away.
00:05:40.400 And if the good folks down in East Palestine have to suffer, then, you know, as long as
00:05:46.560 he doesn't attract more national media, he wants to kick the can down the road.
00:05:50.380 It is mind-boggling that you would not make the application to declare this a disaster
00:05:57.120 area, right?
00:05:58.320 And to have the company doing the testing, by the way, if the company wants to test, have
00:06:02.900 no problem with that at all, go and test.
00:06:04.500 But you can't rely upon that.
00:06:06.060 You have to have your own independent tests and your own government agencies do the test.
00:06:10.280 You have to compare and contrast.
00:06:11.440 And particularly, when they're having the poor citizens there sign a release, and that
00:06:16.240 release is just not, hey, lettuce coming in test, and if I stumble over a rug, I know
00:06:21.460 it won't hold me liable.
00:06:22.820 No.
00:06:23.440 This is, you're letting me off the hook.
00:06:25.200 You're letting me off the hook for any bad air, anything we find in here.
00:06:29.260 You're letting Norfolk Southern off the hook.
00:06:30.800 Look, no, like I said, it's a, that's the way it's still, they should put, they should
00:06:35.160 actually ask them to, if they want some aluminum siding at the same time, just take the whole
00:06:39.400 house, right?
00:06:40.820 This is a total con.
00:06:42.320 And the poor folks there, Leahy, this is what I don't understand.
00:06:45.360 Norfolk Southern has got $54 billion.
00:06:47.140 Why were they not at the town hall last night, sir?
00:06:49.340 Well, the CEO there, Alan Shaw, said that he'd been up there to visit them at some point.
00:06:57.580 I don't recall seeing him there, but we'll take him at his word.
00:07:01.080 But they said they were concerned about their own personal security, which seems, you know,
00:07:07.100 kind of weak.
00:07:08.000 But let me add on the timeline.
00:07:09.760 This derailment took place on February 3rd.
00:07:12.600 The governor should have declared a disaster and asked for FEMA relief on February 4th.
00:07:17.980 And remember, the controlled burn took, the controlled burn of the vinyl chloride took
00:07:23.880 place at, on February 6th.
00:07:25.700 That's when that big plume went up with all the, the hazardous materials.
00:07:30.000 And we still, by the way, do not have a response in over 48 hours from either the governor's
00:07:36.420 office, Governor DeWine, or from the EPA as to the name of the onsite coordinator there
00:07:44.680 from the EPA, who had the legal authority to issue the order to do the controlled burn.
00:07:52.580 By the way, this is, I want to make sure we, we go through this.
00:07:56.200 There's a controlled burn, but before there's a controlled burn, there's a controlled release.
00:08:01.620 And this is going to be, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm not wrong on this, this is going to be
00:08:05.500 quite controversial.
00:08:06.360 And this is one of the reasons Mike DeWine does not want to send the paperwork to higher
00:08:12.940 authorities at FEMA to get, for disaster relief, because he's got to lay out the narrative with
00:08:17.640 the times and like, who made this decision when, they don't want that.
00:08:21.400 They don't want a timeline.
00:08:22.460 They don't want the accountability timeline, because somebody is going to have to sit there.
00:08:25.740 And finally, we've heard all this theoretical stuff about shards and the temperatures dropping
00:08:30.480 in the tanks, and that they came up with some stuff and they had somebody else check it.
00:08:34.740 So far, they've not put anything in front of the public.
00:08:38.560 They could get all of this off their back, Michael Patrick Leahy, if they just put the
00:08:43.140 models in front of you, just put the timeline in front of you, here's who actually signed
00:08:47.640 off on this, here's who authorized this.
00:08:50.140 They could be very simple.
00:08:51.300 You could have a press conference and you could do a TED Talk.
00:08:54.620 You and I could help them with it.
00:08:56.000 You do your Stanford, I'll do my Harvard.
00:08:57.580 They get the bullet points, boom, and everybody be happy.
00:09:00.400 Okay, I understand it.
00:09:01.540 They don't want to do it.
00:09:02.600 And the reason they don't want to do it, they kind of made it up as they go along, and
00:09:06.020 they had the company driving it.
00:09:08.140 The company said, yeah, this thing's going to blow up, and there's going to be shards
00:09:10.980 everywhere, right?
00:09:12.220 So we got to get it out of the tank like right now.
00:09:14.900 And oh, yeah, instead of transferring to another tank, let's just burn it.
00:09:18.880 We'll just do a control.
00:09:21.140 First off, define to me what a controlled burn of these type of chemicals are.
00:09:26.820 Or once you burn them, they turn it into Fosgene gas.
00:09:30.880 The same gas that in World War I was so horrible on places like the Somme and these other great
00:09:37.100 battles in World War I that they had treaties afterwards to ban it.
00:09:41.120 Of all the other killing items they had and how they could kill people so brutally, Michael,
00:09:46.440 that the one they had to get rid of was Fosgene gas.
00:09:49.120 And that's what they burned and came out of those pits right there, that little trench
00:09:53.100 they dug right there on Main Street and right by the railroad tracks.
00:09:57.640 How does that, why doesn't Mike DeWine, why does he want to put it all into a package, put
00:10:02.860 a bow on it and send it up to higher authority, sir?
00:10:06.060 I suspect because there's a document that should exist signed by the on-site EPA coordinator
00:10:13.800 that should be dated February 6th, which says, you know, they recommend the controlled burn.
00:10:19.120 I don't think, I think that document may not exist, Steve, because the EPA is not answering
00:10:25.520 us, the governor's not answering us.
00:10:28.280 It's entirely possible that there is no documentation, even within the state of Ohio, to document who
00:10:35.640 authorized this order.
00:10:37.100 It could very well be that this was simply, you know, a verbal direction given by Governor
00:10:42.840 DeWine at the recommendation of Norfolk Southern.
00:10:46.120 Now, at One American News, our good friend Neil W.
00:10:49.680 McCabe interviewed Scott Pullen, an attorney in Ohio, and he said just this afternoon that
00:10:56.440 Governor DeWine might possibly have some criminal liability if he issued that order to do the
00:11:02.920 controlled burn without the legal authority required under federal law.
00:11:08.780 He said there may be criminal liability, although the standard for public officials is much higher
00:11:38.120 than private individuals.
00:11:39.540 Steve, if you were living in Ohio or anywhere and you did a controlled burn of this kind of substance,
00:11:46.400 you would be in jail right now.
00:11:48.740 Or if I did that, anybody who did that would be in jail right now.
00:11:52.900 But again, we're not public officials.
00:11:54.460 There's a higher standard for public officials.
00:11:56.180 Hold on, hang on.
00:11:57.360 Hang on.
00:11:58.020 I got that.
00:11:58.900 Give me this again.
00:11:59.860 I got to hear that again, because this gets to the key point.
00:12:02.280 If you're just some guy and you've got some issue and you're in your backyard and you do
00:12:06.960 it, that would bring a criminal charge on you, correct?
00:12:11.260 Yeah, absolutely.
00:12:13.020 I mean, you would probably, before the sun set that evening, you would probably be in a
00:12:19.280 jail.
00:12:20.880 But it's a different standard, right?
00:12:23.360 It's a very different standard for public officials, much higher standard.
00:12:26.680 But, as you often say, Governor DeWine, you've got to show us the receipts here.
00:12:32.160 I suspect you're right.
00:12:33.220 I suspect the receipts don't exist.
00:12:36.000 And I suspect what happened is huge pressure from Norfolk Southern to get the trains moving
00:12:41.840 again.
00:12:42.660 They provided that pressure to DeWine, and he said, OK, let's do it.
00:12:47.600 That's what I suspect happened.
00:12:48.960 I don't know for sure, but the evidence points that way.
00:12:51.360 Like, Jeffrey Clark was the assistant attorney general in the Trump administration for all
00:12:57.740 the environmental regulations.
00:12:59.260 And DOJ plays.
00:13:00.200 It's actually probably more powerful than even EPA, because this is all regulations and
00:13:04.900 laws.
00:13:05.300 It's quite technical.
00:13:07.020 And Jeffrey was on the show with Michael the other day, and he said, hey, flat out, it's
00:13:10.100 black letter.
00:13:11.080 You have an on-scene commander, and those are the only guys that sign off.
00:13:13.640 This is a federal issue.
00:13:14.560 No governor has got any real jurisdiction here, because obviously, the stuff gets into
00:13:20.380 the trench, it goes into the river, it goes into the whole Ohio River Valley, you've got
00:13:24.600 all those states downriver.
00:13:27.360 The thing's a couple of miles from the border of Pennsylvania.
00:13:30.740 It's northwest.
00:13:32.040 The town is northwest of Pittsburgh.
00:13:33.740 The air will blow right into Pennsylvania immediately.
00:13:36.020 That's why it's a federal, it's interstate, so it's federal jurisdiction.
00:13:39.020 You called Ohio Star, contacted the EPA on what day, sir, with this specific question?
00:13:48.600 Today is Thursday afternoon.
00:13:50.800 We contacted them Tuesday morning about 8 a.m.
00:13:53.920 Central Time, and they have not responded to us since on it.
00:13:59.100 They obviously don't want to give us the answer.
00:14:01.120 They said, we'll get back to you.
00:14:04.080 That's a good question.
00:14:05.120 We'll get back to you, right?
00:14:06.180 That would, you would think, you would think, Michael, that would be pretty easy.
00:14:09.860 He said, yeah, here it is right here.
00:14:11.100 It's in the file.
00:14:11.780 There you are, Leahy.
00:14:12.440 Get off our back.
00:14:13.160 There's a signature.
00:14:14.420 That's the thing.
00:14:15.320 Isn't it odd that nobody's got, and if you read, this is a thing that needs precision.
00:14:20.160 It needs precise language.
00:14:21.580 You read the New York Times, you read, now that the media has been forced to cover it,
00:14:25.800 it's all the authorities, or then they talk about the company, and they go back and
00:14:29.380 forth.
00:14:29.780 There's no precision here.
00:14:31.400 It's very simple.
00:14:32.200 Give me a timeline, and give me the nodes of accountability, responsibility, and authority.
00:14:38.200 That's all I need to see.
00:14:38.980 Boom, boom.
00:14:39.360 Just dual track it, and then everybody can understand what's going on, and then the Norfolk
00:14:44.300 Southern guys don't have to be worried about their personal security, right?
00:14:48.280 Everybody knows what happened, how the decisions were made, and the key thing, this is like
00:14:53.040 the pandemic.
00:14:54.140 We need to, because we're a science-based, evidence-based database.
00:14:58.340 Show me the receipts.
00:15:00.640 Show me how these decisions were made that have such a massive impact on these good folks
00:15:07.180 in East Palestine, Ohio, who totally affected their lives, and I'm not even on the derailment.
00:15:15.840 To me, that's a separate issue.
00:15:17.640 The Federal Transportation Board of Dealers at the company, I'm talking about from the
00:15:21.600 time the things were off the track and laying there, after that initial fire went out.
00:15:26.580 So we've got to see a detailed timeline, a critical path on who was involved, who made
00:15:32.760 decisions, what was the analysis, what alternatives were looked at, until we get into this situation.
00:15:37.920 I mean, you've got people running around saying, hey, there's fish dead here.
00:15:41.100 They've got chickens dead over here. 1.00
00:15:43.680 You know, Pedro Gonzalez, we're going to try to get him tomorrow.
00:15:46.620 He was there today.
00:15:47.960 He said, hey, he's got to burn his clothes.
00:15:50.280 Do we have Nick?
00:15:51.500 Nick, I'll tell you what, Michael Patrick Lay, just hang right there.
00:15:54.960 Let me bring in Nick Sartor, who's actually on the ground there in East Palestine, Ohio.
00:16:02.720 Nick, thank you very much for joining us, sir.
00:16:05.480 Thank you for having me, Steve.
00:16:08.360 Hey, listen, and by the way, Nick's co-host of the Roundtable.
00:16:11.180 Nick, just give us a situation report.
00:16:12.880 What is the latest in between, like, the company, the government entities, and then I want to know about the people.
00:16:21.280 So walk us through what you know out there.
00:16:24.680 So this is a quickly evolving situation, believe it or not, especially now that there are good media outlets such as yourself that are putting emphasis on this story,
00:16:36.320 sort of going out and being the people's voice that are here on the ground, right?
00:16:41.120 They were ignored for at least 13 days now.
00:16:45.240 It's almost 14 days.
00:16:47.380 And then finally, this week, they started getting a lot of grassroots media attention.
00:16:53.900 And then that's when the mainstream media comes in.
00:16:56.900 They didn't care about it until it became a hot topic online, right?
00:17:02.280 The Biden administration still doesn't care about the situation.
00:17:05.300 They would love for it to go away.
00:17:07.020 And everybody here knows that.
00:17:08.380 Everybody here knows that Joe Biden gives no craps about anything that's going on here or the people.
00:17:14.180 This is not a friendly area for him politically, right?
00:17:19.680 You've got a pothole Pete Buttigieg, which people would love to see him out here because they're terrified that this is just going to happen again.
00:17:28.820 Is he going to do anything about it?
00:17:31.160 Probably not.
00:17:32.160 Is anybody going to go after Norfolk Southern?
00:17:34.620 Is the government going to do it?
00:17:35.520 Probably not.
00:17:37.100 And Norfolk Southern knows that.
00:17:38.640 So they don't come across as being too worried about it.
00:17:42.680 They won't talk to the people.
00:17:44.300 They'll send a carefully crafted press release out and act like they're great people.
00:17:51.060 But they are the enemies here.
00:17:53.340 And everybody here thinks that.
00:17:56.380 By the way, a company that's got $38 billion in assets on its balance sheet has got a $54 billion market cap.
00:18:03.060 It's a little down now because of stock.
00:18:04.820 They put up initially, Nick, I don't know what you're complaining about.
00:18:08.160 They put up $25,000.
00:18:09.760 They were going to put up $25,000 to take care of any inconvenience you had.
00:18:14.580 That's the heart of Norfolk Southern.
00:18:16.040 But are people getting to the timeline of exactly who made these decisions, who made the decision about the controlled release, who authorized and made the decision on the controlled burn, who's made the decisions on monitoring?
00:18:30.100 Because it looks all over the map.
00:18:31.440 DeWine comes out there.
00:18:32.360 He's saying one thing.
00:18:33.260 Shapiro's saying another.
00:18:35.120 Leahy's with us.
00:18:36.100 And he went to the EPA.
00:18:37.980 The senior guy at the Justice Department said the EPA on-scene commander is the only one who can make this decision.
00:18:42.840 The EPA said that's a great question.
00:18:44.200 And we'll get back to your crickets.
00:18:46.080 Are the folks out there feel that people, either authorities or the company, are dealing straight with them?
00:18:52.040 No, not at all.
00:18:53.060 Not at all.
00:18:53.540 It's a big finger-pointing game at this point.
00:18:56.120 Nobody wants to take responsibility for this, especially because people now realize that if this happened in the middle of Washington, D.C., they're not going to blow a mushroom cloud into the sky.
00:19:06.140 This is something that they felt was done just because the government at the time thought it would be the easiest thing to do.
00:19:16.500 Everybody thinks there had to be a better way.
00:19:19.340 And, you know, the government tries to justify it as they can, but they don't like to say much at all.
00:19:25.880 The more they talk, to be honest with you, the less people trust them because they end up – they contradict themselves all the time, especially Mike DeWine.
00:19:33.640 He is just horrible with it, telling everybody it's safe to come back to their town.
00:19:37.820 And then the next week saying, oh, well, you know, you need to be using only bottled water.
00:19:43.820 So, that doesn't sound like a safe town to me.
00:19:48.880 Tell me, you're actually there.
00:19:50.820 What does the town feel like?
00:19:51.920 I mean, can you feel some of the damage there?
00:19:54.220 Pedro Gonzalez calls.
00:19:55.500 We're trying to get him tomorrow.
00:19:57.320 He's saying, hey, I've got to burn the clothes I wore.
00:19:59.980 Is it as bad as it looks, represented for the fish and the wells and the smell and all that?
00:20:06.820 Give us your report.
00:20:08.680 Well, yesterday they had taken about 6,000 fish, actually, out of one of the streams.
00:20:19.220 The state cleared 6,000 fish out.
00:20:22.460 There was a lady that I was talking to today that had – she puts out minnow traps at night. 1.00
00:20:30.400 Yesterday – it's the same lady that you're actually seeing in this video right here. 1.00
00:20:34.220 She puts out minnow traps at night, and she typically catches a lot of minnows.
00:20:38.860 She put it out there last night, not one.
00:20:41.620 You don't see anything in there.
00:20:43.020 I mean, you look at the video, right?
00:20:45.140 How many streams have you seen with rainbows in them?
00:20:47.880 You know there's a problem at that point.
00:20:50.820 But you don't see a lot of damage, physical damage, that is right – besides, like, buildings that are right next to the railroad tracks.
00:21:00.300 Then you see rail cars and then vehicles that were near.
00:21:04.280 They're all done for.
00:21:05.820 But the real damage is going to be seen in 5, 10, 15 years to people's health and lives.
00:21:16.680 No, it's the soil, the air, and the water.
00:21:19.220 That's absolutely unbelievable.
00:21:20.860 When you say 6,000 fish, are you telling me they weren't 6,000 live fish?
00:21:25.940 They took out 6,000 dead fish?
00:21:28.660 Dead fish.
00:21:29.680 Yep.
00:21:30.420 6,000 dead fish.
00:21:31.880 And that was just yesterday.
00:21:35.220 Okay, Nick, you've got to help me out here, brother.
00:21:37.700 They took out 6,000 dead fish, right?
00:21:40.840 I just saw the thing.
00:21:41.820 It looks like the rainbow – it looks like the Wizard of Oz, the opening color scene in the Wizard of Oz, right, with the rainbow.
00:21:47.760 Right.
00:21:49.080 How has Mike DeWine – how has Mike DeWine not submitted the paperwork to declare this a disaster area, sir?
00:21:58.060 In my opinion, it's because, you know, when you declare an area safe, you're the governor.
00:22:05.040 You tell everybody it's now safe to go back in.
00:22:07.580 And then the people go back in, and then you declared a disaster.
00:22:12.420 Nothing changed since then.
00:22:14.440 You know, there wasn't another explosion, right?
00:22:17.200 If you declare it safe, it better be safe because this is going to be a political disaster for him.
00:22:23.520 He's backed himself into a corner where he's going to have to – if he actually wants federal aid, he's going to have to declare an emergency.
00:22:34.120 And, you know, he's in a bad spot.
00:22:38.220 But he should do what's right.
00:22:42.160 Nick, tell me about the people there.
00:22:44.620 Where are they right now, just completely despondent and depressed, think nobody's got their back?
00:22:49.000 He's been depressed, right?
00:22:56.680 They're terrified of what's going to happen when the media stops covering them at all, right?
00:23:03.420 If the media is out of here totally, you know, they feel like that's what the Biden administration is waiting on to hope that it just goes away.
00:23:11.420 And then once it goes away, you know, then this town will just – what they think is it'll just collapse because people don't trust it.
00:23:18.920 They don't want to drink the water.
00:23:20.160 They don't want to shower.
00:23:21.780 And they don't.
00:23:23.100 They can't wash their hands.
00:23:24.940 They can't do anything because they're terrified.
00:23:27.860 And they don't think it's going to get any better.
00:23:32.940 Nick, how do people follow you on your reporting on social media?
00:23:36.000 We'd love to – we'll work with you afterwards.
00:23:37.520 We'd love to have you back on tomorrow's morning show.
00:23:39.420 But how do people get to you and follow you overnight with all the great content you're putting up?
00:23:45.580 So they can go to – they can go on Twitter, and it's at Nick Sorter.
00:23:50.780 You can see my name down there.
00:23:52.060 It's just the two of them put together.
00:23:54.240 And, you know, I pretty much live-tweet this situation.
00:23:57.960 And, you know, we had the EPA administrator here who, like I said, didn't say much.
00:24:04.200 And so that was live-tweeted as well.
00:24:06.160 But there is a lot of developing information now, given the additional media attention this is getting.
00:24:11.760 You just don't really hear about it much.
00:24:13.800 The local news stations come in here.
00:24:16.260 They put it on at 6.30 p.m., you know, in a short time slot.
00:24:21.840 It'd be five minutes, and that's it.
00:24:23.600 It doesn't tell you the whole story.
00:24:25.260 So it's independent people like us, you know, that aren't beholden to a massive corporation
00:24:32.360 that are the ones getting this story out and are giving people the real background here.
00:24:39.140 Nick, fantastic reporting, really fantastic, and let the people know.
00:24:43.500 By the way, is there any – are good lawyers showing up that people feel like they're now saying get people there that are being represented?
00:24:51.300 So there are personal injury, like class-action type attorneys that have come to – there was a meeting at the American Legion here the other day.
00:25:04.200 This was before the town hall meeting that you may have seen that had like 700 people at it.
00:25:09.780 And there was a small group of class-action attorneys, but in reality, these – maybe they'll come at some point,
00:25:20.180 but I'm surprised that I haven't seen a lot more ambulance chasers than I have.
00:25:25.740 So – and there are people here asking for attorneys, and they don't know where to go.
00:25:31.980 Nick, great reporting.
00:25:33.340 Look forward to following this and having you back on.
00:25:35.940 Thank you so much.
00:25:36.520 Great work out there.
00:25:37.660 Be safe.
00:25:38.200 Thank you, sir.
00:25:39.320 You too.
00:25:40.540 Thank you, brother.
00:25:42.060 Leahy, 6,000 freaking dead fish, right?
00:25:46.320 6,000 dead fish.
00:25:48.040 I mean, Mike DeWine, this is a disgrace.
00:25:50.700 And by the way, this – and politics shouldn't have anything to do with it here.
00:25:54.100 This is about what government's supposed to do to make sure they protect – we're paying a fortune for all this stuff.
00:26:00.520 But to know how MAGA Ohio is, and particularly this part, this is Trump country right there.
00:26:06.580 Do you think one of the reasons it's not getting the focus is that these are the deplorables?
00:26:11.580 I think that's one of the political reasons why the EPA is not responding to our questions about what happened in East Palestine, Ohio.
00:26:20.580 Let me make a political point here.
00:26:23.160 Sherrod Brown is the Democrat senator from Ohio.
00:26:28.460 He's up for re-election in 2024.
00:26:30.880 You notice today he's the one that sent the letter to Governor DeWine asking him to declare an emergency.
00:26:38.120 I can tell you this, the biggest pressure for that national emergency – for the declaration of emergency is going to come from Brown because he sees the political heat in 2024.
00:26:49.880 Hang on, Michael.
00:26:52.460 I want you to stick around.
00:26:53.340 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:26:54.440 By the way, I'm not a Sherrod Brown fan, but he is as close to a populist as you've got with J.D. Vance and Hawley in the entire Senate.
00:27:03.960 That's one of the reasons he's doing it.
00:27:05.060 Leahy's going to be on the other side.
00:27:06.840 Short commercial break.
00:27:07.640 Be back in a moment.
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00:31:44.360 Welcome back.
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00:31:57.620 I want to go back to other breaking news.
00:31:59.940 You got to explain this to me, Leahy, because you're smarter than I am.
00:32:04.080 I don't understand this.
00:32:07.820 This article you just sent me from local TV.
00:32:11.800 What is DeWine doing here?
00:32:14.060 You got to help me out here.
00:32:15.520 I mean, this thing's a disaster for these people.
00:32:17.660 This is catastrophic.
00:32:19.560 What is the governor doing?
00:32:21.440 He's not declaring an emergency and not declaring a disaster.
00:32:24.700 That's what he's doing.
00:32:25.580 Now, I want to add to that.
00:32:27.600 For a disaster declaration, there are two kinds.
00:32:31.540 The governor has to request of FEMA, and there are two kinds.
00:32:35.740 An emergency declaration for anything, which has a limit of like five million bucks, and then if you go over that, you got to go to Congress and tell them you want more money.
00:32:48.700 But the major declaration of a disaster or like a hurricane, et cetera, there's a little bit at the end of that guideline.
00:32:58.680 You can also call a major declaration for, wait for it, an explosion.
00:33:04.500 Now, I think there was an explosion there of chemicals on February 3rd and then a controlled burn that was an explosion on February 6th.
00:33:12.020 So the governor could call for a major declaration of a disaster there.
00:33:19.320 He could send it to FEMA, and they would probably not turn it down if he did it.
00:33:25.760 But he's got to put his case together, as you pointed out, Steve.
00:33:28.860 I don't think he wants to do that.
00:33:30.220 Because he has to put the timeline and who had authority and decisions he made and what were they based upon, he'd have to put it in the package to take it to FEMA.
00:33:43.040 He could declare it, but to get it declared by the federal government or, I guess, supported by the federal government to actually get your money,
00:33:51.300 he would have to actually put together a package that laid through everything that was done.
00:33:54.880 And that's not going to look very good, is it, Michael Patrick Leahy?
00:33:58.500 Well, if there is no authorization from the federally designated on-site coordinator from the EPA, it's going to look very bad.
00:34:09.140 And FEMA might say, hmm, this is your problem, buddy.
00:34:13.840 You created the problem, and we're not going to give you any money.
00:34:16.780 Now, if he put the declaration in, the political pressure would be there for FEMA to say yes.
00:34:24.640 But they're not in a hurry, and Governor DeWine is also not in a hurry.
00:34:33.240 You just heard Nick Sorter, who's doing a terrific job out there.
00:34:37.040 The people feel like they've been abandoned.
00:34:39.320 I mean, obviously, I'll talk afterwards.
00:34:41.000 We've got to help pull this together, because they feel like they've been abandoned.
00:34:44.120 But to a degree, they have been abandoned.
00:34:46.760 And here's what's so outrageous about it.
00:34:48.180 Sherrod Brown's a Democrat and a populist.
00:34:50.760 He's got to get involved here.
00:34:52.420 This is a MAGA state.
00:34:54.460 And they just had on Fox the other day, they had somebody, one of the announcers saying,
00:34:57.720 well, I just talked to the congressman, and he thinks Biden's doing a great job out here.
00:35:01.180 Right?
00:35:01.800 I don't understand why the Republicans and DeWine and these guys, this is Ohio.
00:35:07.080 The reason we're even competitive in these presidential elections is because Ohio,
00:35:12.780 where when in Ohio, with a big enough gap, it allows us to spend time and money.
00:35:16.700 It's the opportunity cost.
00:35:18.420 You don't need to be in Ohio.
00:35:19.620 Look at J.D. Vance, the big one we had there in the Senate.
00:35:22.520 And Sherrod Brown should be on the endangered species list.
00:35:25.040 And guess what?
00:35:25.520 He's not going to be because of this very situation.
00:35:28.800 Now, I hate to take a talk, get down to politics about this, but somebody's got to have these
00:35:33.140 people back.
00:35:33.780 First off, you should just do it as your normal job.
00:35:36.240 Right?
00:35:36.560 And DeWine's always saying about, you know, how he's all about the people and, you know,
00:35:40.440 with the pandemic and everything like this, this is really outrageous.
00:35:43.960 And I got to tell you, people have to be held accountable for this.
00:35:47.640 The company's got to be held accountable, but also the government officials.
00:35:51.840 And right now, you can tell Biden just wants this thing to go away.
00:35:54.960 He doesn't want Pete Buttigieg out there.
00:35:57.060 He doesn't want anybody, any big, big time EPA people out there.
00:36:00.140 They want to wash their hands of it.
00:36:01.700 Michael Patrick Leahy, your closing thoughts.
00:36:03.780 Well, my closing thought is right now we need, there needs to be political pressure from
00:36:09.840 everyone in the congressional delegation in Ohio, in addition to the Democrat senator
00:36:15.600 up for reelection, Sherrod Brown, to push Governor DeWine to call for, ask for the declaration
00:36:22.900 of a major disaster because of this explosion.
00:36:26.760 It's right there in the federal FEMA regulation.
00:36:29.020 He can do that, get that to FEMA as soon as possible and get the federal aid rolling in
00:36:33.760 to the good people in East Palestine, Ohio.
00:36:38.980 We're going to get even more involved in this, Leahy.
00:36:41.160 We've got to make this thing happen.
00:36:42.260 This is why you set these great papers up, these great news sites.
00:36:45.740 You were the guy that got the joke first of how important this is, and this is a perfect
00:36:48.860 example.
00:36:49.320 This is kind of an example of everything.
00:36:52.280 This shows you a nation in decline because the people in authority, quote-unquote, the elites,
00:36:59.480 don't care.
00:37:00.560 They don't care.
00:37:01.120 And the people at East Palestine, Ohio, are the ones that fight your wars, build your country,
00:37:07.800 pay the taxes, just want to get along and be left alone, right?
00:37:11.820 In situations like this, extraordinary situations, they want to make sure that somebody's got their
00:37:17.280 back.
00:37:17.780 And the government not only doesn't have their back, it's working against them.
00:37:21.120 And this controlled burn, like you said, if you'd done this in your yard or something
00:37:24.240 like that, you'd be under arrest right now.
00:37:25.700 You have criminal charges filed against you.
00:37:27.320 That's what's so outrageous about this thing.
00:37:30.080 And if this was in the East Hamptons, trust me, okay?
00:37:33.800 If this was out there near Shinnecock or in the beautiful East Hamptons, if this happened
00:37:37.880 out there, they would have done, they would have flown, the top experts in the world have
00:37:42.260 been flown in before anybody touched anything, okay?
00:37:45.460 And that's the injustice.
00:37:46.800 And that's this kind of burning discontent that the American people, because they can look
00:37:51.920 right there and say, that's me.
00:37:53.060 I'm that little guy.
00:37:53.860 This is why Hillary Clinton called them the deplorables.
00:37:56.340 They don't matter.
00:37:57.080 They're deplorable.
00:37:58.000 Just they're nothing.
00:37:59.180 They're trash.
00:38:00.460 That's it.
00:38:00.780 We treated these people out there like trash, and they're not trash.
00:38:03.760 They're actually the backbone of the country.
00:38:06.440 That's the difference.
00:38:07.920 Michael Patrick Lay, how do we get to all your sites, all your coverage?
00:38:10.340 You're doing an incredible job.
00:38:12.620 The OhioStar.com.
00:38:15.300 TheStarNewsNetwork.com.
00:38:16.340 You can reach me on Twitter, Getter, or Truth Social at Michael P. Leahy.
00:38:23.360 Michael, thank you so much.
00:38:24.520 Great work.
00:38:25.940 Great to be with you again, Steve.
00:38:27.080 You know, I had an entire, I had a, thanks, brother.
00:38:29.920 I had an entirely different show we're going to do tonight.
00:38:32.480 I had Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel, Hugh Hewitt actually did a very good interview with Peter
00:38:36.280 Thiel this morning.
00:38:38.160 And, you know, Peter, this is on China.
00:38:40.780 He got on some very interesting topics.
00:38:42.260 I'll do that.
00:38:42.740 Natalie Winters is going to join me.
00:38:43.940 We're going to deconstruct coming right off Biden's, you know, the illegitimate regime
00:38:50.080 head, Joe Biden's, you know, what he did this fiasco today.
00:38:55.100 I was going to have Peter Thiel off the Hugh Hewitt show.
00:38:57.760 We're going to break it all down, talk about that.
00:38:59.600 Then I was going to roll into some things that are happening, particularly in, I don't
00:39:02.480 think people realizing crypto and in Bitcoin, kind of the surge has got to reach out to
00:39:06.340 the, to the bomb thrower.
00:39:08.060 I should call him the mad bomb thrower, Mark Jeff to Vic up in Canada.
00:39:11.860 Brother, thank you so much for joining us.
00:39:13.400 I want to talk a little bit about, I want to talk about crypto and particularly want
00:39:16.620 to talk because you, you, you follow this quite, you do so much great stuff.
00:39:20.260 And I got to tell you, I I'm so appreciative that you give me a heads up on these great
00:39:24.520 articles.
00:39:24.880 You're right, because I, I'm going to tell the audience, Jeff to Vic, he doesn't send
00:39:28.160 me a lot, but when he sends me stuff, I'll read it right away.
00:39:31.440 And I got to tell you within 24 hours, it's up, it's up as the lead story over at zero hedge,
00:39:36.800 which is the benchmark for what's hot and what's smart.
00:39:40.000 So, uh, thanks for joining us, brother.
00:39:42.140 Talk to me about Bitcoin and crypto overall.
00:39:45.540 Hey, Steve, thanks for, thanks for your kind words.
00:39:48.560 Um, what can I say?
00:39:50.140 Bitcoin is off to its, uh, greatest calendar year start in its history.
00:39:56.320 And, uh, I mean, I typically tell my readers don't pay a lot of attention to the short-term
00:40:01.920 price gyrations of this stuff.
00:40:03.860 We're long-term thinkers, long-term oriented, but when a, when a 12% move happens in five
00:40:10.400 hours, like it did yesterday, even I sit up in my chair and when I look back at it, um,
00:40:17.060 it's just, this feels like, um, like a Bitcoin bottom, which is really right on schedule for
00:40:25.700 a cycle that's baked straight into the protocol.
00:40:28.380 I mean, if you look at, hang on, I want, I want, I want to say something.
00:40:31.680 We don't give investment advice here.
00:40:33.940 We do this as much strategically because it's, we're trying to build alternative economies
00:40:39.180 for, you know, the public square.
00:40:40.520 We want people to have alternatives, particularly so people don't hate you, but I thought this
00:40:45.120 was going to shock the audience.
00:40:46.460 Everything I've read, uh, crypto's finished.
00:40:49.620 The government's going to shut it all down.
00:40:51.380 Bitcoin's dead.
00:40:52.700 Everything's dead.
00:40:53.940 Everybody was a sucker.
00:40:55.340 This is all ridiculous.
00:40:56.600 Walk us through what would have been the price shifts here?
00:41:00.700 Um, if you put up the first slide on the assets so far this year, um, we see like Bitcoin
00:41:07.200 is up the most out of everything this year, including oil, including gold, including, uh,
00:41:13.280 the NASDAQ and lately cryptos have been trading with the NASDAQ quite a bit.
00:41:18.420 And, um, in my mind, like everyone, you said, you know, people, um, bad mouth Bitcoin.
00:41:26.460 Will the governments allow it?
00:41:27.820 What I always tell people is to invert that.
00:41:30.200 I don't think about this in terms of will the government allow Bitcoin?
00:41:33.920 I think of this in terms of which governments are going to survive Bitcoin.
00:41:37.940 In your previous segment, you talked about a nation in decline, in decline.
00:41:42.340 We're in, we're also witnessing a monetary system in decline, and we're witnessing late
00:41:47.780 stage globalism in decline.
00:41:49.880 And that's why things like Bitcoin won't die.
00:41:53.280 And not only will they not die, every cycle.
00:41:56.140 Hang on, hang on, hang on, brother, brother, brother.
00:41:58.020 The congressional budget office in the New York times, you know, these are not people
00:42:07.400 with their hair on fire, $19 trillion in the next 10 years.
00:42:11.980 They say that it's not sustainable.
00:42:14.180 $19 trillion on top of the 32, they get you over $50 trillion.
00:42:18.360 No country, in fact, the, the, the, the holding of the public, the public holding of debt at,
00:42:25.500 at the treasury, at the fed is going to be over a hundred percent of the economy, not
00:42:29.440 the total debt.
00:42:30.640 That'll be hundreds of times.
00:42:32.360 The economy, none, no country's ever come.
00:42:34.980 Look at the New York times today.
00:42:36.220 I've preached this now for two shows.
00:42:37.520 We're going to do it again tomorrow.
00:42:38.640 No country on earth has ever come back from this.
00:42:42.160 And this is your betters.
00:42:43.580 So talk to me about, when you talk about alternative and you talk about crypto, walk me through
00:42:49.660 how this, in your logic, how this is rebounding.
00:42:54.860 Well, it's rebounding for a couple of reasons.
00:42:57.760 Most of the people were waiting for something called the Fed pivot for the central banks to
00:43:03.160 kind of take their foot off the gas pedal on the interest rate hikes and they, and everyone,
00:43:07.740 and I think correctly so has been saying the Fed can't keep raising interest rates to your
00:43:12.920 point with that much debt out there.
00:43:15.300 But there's another aspect of Bitcoin, which is sort of dovetailing with this Fed, slow
00:43:20.100 motion Fed pivot that hasn't really been paid attention to.
00:43:24.700 And that's the four year halving cycle in Bitcoin.
00:43:28.300 And so every four years, it just means without getting too technical, every four years, the
00:43:33.120 mining block reward for mining Bitcoin and securing the blockchain, it cuts in half and
00:43:39.380 it creates a supply shock in the system.
00:43:41.700 And because Bitcoin is the opposite of fiat money in that you can't inflate it to nothing,
00:43:47.300 every time this cuts in half, it becomes an order of magnitude more valuable.
00:43:53.400 Each unit becomes more valuable.
00:43:55.420 It creates sort of like a buying pressure in the system.
00:43:59.540 And if we look at where we are in the cycle now, it's like clockwork.
00:44:03.800 So what happens is about 15 months before the next halving, Bitcoin starts its rise.
00:44:11.560 And that, I think, is what is happening here even more than the Fed pivot.
00:44:15.220 If you look at that second slide I sent over, the next Bitcoin halving is in May 2024.
00:44:22.520 And 15 months before May 2024 is actually February, like right now.
00:44:29.740 And in fact, Bitcoin and cryptos bottomed in December.
00:44:34.120 And then since December, they've just taken off like rockets.
00:44:37.920 We saw the first slide to how it compares to the other assets.
00:44:43.200 And in that last table I sent you, this pattern, I mean, technical analysts will tell you to
00:44:50.360 be wary of patterns because they're not etched in stone.
00:44:53.860 But the Bitcoin pattern is actually baked into the protocol itself because of this four-year
00:44:59.180 halving cycle.
00:45:00.260 And we see from 2011 all the way up to 2022, we have three up years, a down year, three
00:45:07.280 up years, a down year, three up years, and a down year.
00:45:09.800 And we just had our down year.
00:45:11.520 It just went by.
00:45:13.160 So who, you know, there's another halving coming 15 months down the road in 2024.
00:45:18.840 And with all of the other political and geopolitical and financial tailwinds hitting Bitcoin, we've
00:45:25.740 got governments weaponizing the banking system against their citizens, against each other.
00:45:30.820 There are even more impetus to get into Bitcoin and protect your wealth.
00:45:36.680 Well, we're going to spend a lot more time on this, Mark, and I want you to give however
00:45:43.720 everybody gets.
00:45:44.280 But I just got to ask you a question because you're also a numbers guy.
00:45:47.700 This is impossible.
00:45:50.220 This is insanity.
00:45:51.460 This is suicide for a nation.
00:45:53.460 You think we're in managed decline.
00:45:54.920 If we go down this path of the plan they've laid out, which are, and I called it $1.4 trillion
00:46:00.440 in a deficit this year, which they lied about.
00:46:02.600 And this is from the CBO, it's reported by the New York Times, $2 trillion in deficits
00:46:09.540 in every year going forward in perpetuity.
00:46:13.540 Okay?
00:46:14.180 This is financial suicide.
00:46:16.800 And that is going to destroy the, and by the way, the only way they, the only reason they 0.94
00:46:20.540 can get away with this is because they got the Federal Reserve over there.
00:46:24.340 They hit the button and the Federal Reserve creates more fiat money.
00:46:29.240 And people think more money, more wealth, it's the exact opposite.
00:46:33.440 The more money, the more destruction of wealth.
00:46:36.080 And this is what we're going to get to.
00:46:37.480 This is part of this crisis.
00:46:38.760 Then you got the geopolitical global war crisis merging in with the financial crisis, just
00:46:43.880 like the 1930s.
00:46:45.220 You're having the convergence of those two right now.
00:46:48.060 And I'm telling you, it's going to be Katie bar the door. 1.00
00:46:50.240 Jeff DeVick, how do people get to you in all your sights?
00:46:52.120 Because your stuff's amazing.
00:46:53.480 And like I said, when Mark sends me something, the next day, boom, it's up as the lead of Zero Hedge,
00:46:59.040 which is a pretty good, and that's my New York Times.
00:47:02.260 So how do they get to you, Jeff DeVick?
00:47:05.080 Well, I always appreciate that.
00:47:06.760 So bombthrower.com is the main website for the articles.
00:47:11.320 You can get on the mailing list there for the free crypto capitalist report.
00:47:15.480 If you want to go straight to the newsletter, just go to thecryptocapitalist.com and hit
00:47:20.020 subscribe and you're there.
00:47:23.780 Thank you, Mark.
00:47:24.580 Great work.
00:47:25.200 Oh, bombthrower on Getter and Stunt Pope on Twitter.
00:47:27.980 I forgot those two.
00:47:31.360 I'm following a bombthrower on Getter.
00:47:34.480 It's fantastic.
00:47:35.260 We'll make sure we get them all up in the chat rooms.
00:47:37.280 Thanks, Mark.
00:47:38.140 Great work.
00:47:38.800 Okay.
00:47:39.340 Thanks, Steve.
00:47:39.940 Always a pleasure.
00:47:41.100 We're going to – you've got to look at alternatives.
00:47:44.320 You must look at alternatives.
00:47:45.400 One of the reasons we're doing this for all the alternative economy stuff, all the – remember,
00:47:49.100 stop giving money to people hate you.
00:47:51.200 By the way, the guys that hate you the most are the guys in charge of this.
00:47:55.320 If the same thing you're seeing out in East Palestine, Ohio, this is exactly what it is.
00:48:02.260 They think you're trash.
00:48:03.780 And they're just – you do this.
00:48:05.260 If we do this, if we follow this plan that's laid out in the CBO, your children and grandchildren
00:48:09.900 not only will they be destroyed, they will curse our generation if we let that happen.
00:48:15.540 I want to go – I've got to tell you, some worked-up folks out there in Arizona.
00:48:18.820 Let's go to Floyd Brown of the Western Journal.
00:48:20.600 Floyd, you're the guy I always turn to for all things out West, particularly in the great
00:48:25.720 state of Arizona.
00:48:27.180 Breaking news.
00:48:28.280 The appellate court ruled for Katie Hobbs.
00:48:30.740 Walk us through it, sir.
00:48:32.520 Yeah.
00:48:33.040 So, what we know is that the appellate court is as corrupt as the trial court was.
00:48:40.320 And, you know, you've got to pray for Arizona at this point because, you know, we've faced
00:48:45.580 corrupt election officials.
00:48:47.360 We've faced an unbelievably corrupt system.
00:48:51.880 And now the judges aren't stepping forward.
00:48:55.680 They aren't stepping up and doing the right thing.
00:48:57.600 What we're dealing with is an entire corrupt system.
00:49:02.320 So –
00:49:02.820 What is it – hang on.
00:49:04.560 Is it corruption?
00:49:05.540 We just got the ruling.
00:49:06.540 Hold on.
00:49:07.920 But why do you say the ruling's corrupt?
00:49:09.580 Is it they didn't agree with our facts or we didn't make the right arguments?
00:49:13.720 Are you saying, hey, we had the right arguments, the right facts, and they just – they didn't
00:49:17.540 use the law?
00:49:20.620 That's right.
00:49:21.860 We have the right arguments.
00:49:23.580 We have the right facts.
00:49:25.040 We have – you know, I think our fact pattern is absolutely excellent for a case like this.
00:49:32.560 I mean, remember, this is not a traditional lawsuit.
00:49:35.200 This is an election challenge.
00:49:37.840 And this election was an unbelievable mess.
00:49:42.680 You know, if I hadn't lived through it – I say this to a lot of people – if I hadn't
00:49:45.640 lived through it myself and seen it firsthand, I wouldn't believe what happened in Maricopa
00:49:51.920 County.
00:49:52.300 I mean, literally 400,000-plus ballots, Steve, wouldn't feed into the machines.
00:49:59.560 They were kicked out.
00:50:00.900 We have no chain of custody on any of those ballots.
00:50:04.460 We have, you know, thousands, tens of thousands of ballots showing up after the election.
00:50:11.080 I mean, the fact case was excellent.
00:50:15.160 And, you know, I think Kurt Olson and the lawyers that were involved did an excellent
00:50:21.060 job.
00:50:22.360 But in the end, these judges are just throwing up their hands and they're saying, you know,
00:50:27.340 it doesn't really matter.
00:50:28.500 We don't care what the facts are.
00:50:30.320 We don't care what the law is.
00:50:32.380 We're just not going to overrule this.
00:50:35.920 And that's corruption.
00:50:36.980 There's one quote in here, maybe – we only got a couple minutes, Floyd, but there's
00:50:41.320 a quote in here.
00:50:41.960 Arizona law recognizes only limited grounds to contest election results for state office.
00:50:49.380 You guys had pretty – I mean, you came in and laid out the case within those kind of
00:50:53.200 verticals.
00:50:53.800 What is their complaint?
00:50:55.660 Yeah, no, no, we did lay out the case.
00:50:59.460 That's why I call it corruption.
00:51:01.220 I call it judges not stepping up and doing their job.
00:51:06.280 And, I mean, what we are facing – I mean, I heard your last segment, Steve, where you
00:51:12.160 talked about how the Federal Reserve and the federal government are sending us into an
00:51:18.000 absolute abyss.
00:51:19.040 Well, you know, not only are those institutions failing, we have these state institutions that
00:51:25.040 are failing, our elections are failing, and, you know, we don't live in a constitutional
00:51:31.340 republic if, in fact, our leaders are selected and not elected.
00:51:36.840 And we know that that's happened in at least two cycles here in Arizona, and it's absolutely
00:51:42.300 outrageous.
00:51:43.040 But I call it the systemic failure – the systemic failure of our basic institutions.
00:51:50.980 And if the judges won't step up and correct things, I don't know what hope we have.
00:51:56.920 Floyd, we've got to bounce.
00:51:58.280 I want everybody to go to – what's your social media and how they get to Western Journal?
00:52:02.240 Well, it's westernjournal.com, or you can find me on Twitter, at Floyd Brown.
00:52:09.280 I'm also on True Social and Getter, at Floyd Brown.
00:52:13.200 So follow me there, and I'll try to keep you updated on this.
00:52:16.280 But what we're facing is systemic failure.
00:52:22.220 Failure.
00:52:22.780 I agree.
00:52:24.220 Maybe we'll get up on Getter late at night.
00:52:25.740 I'll talk to you right after this, Floyd.
00:52:26.960 Okay.
00:52:28.440 Boy, I had to re-change this show, but, man, it was great.
00:52:31.460 I learned so much I didn't know.
00:52:33.120 See you tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
00:52:34.340 We're going to be on fire.
00:52:35.300 See you here in the world.
00:52:35.960 See you here in the world.
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