WarRoom Battleground EP 236： Lack Of Responsibility And The Abandoning Of Ohioans
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Summary
On today's show, we have special guest Michael Patrick Leahy of the Star-News Network and the Ohio Star and Nick Sartor of the East Ohio Roundtable join us to talk about the latest in the unfolding disaster in the wake of Tropical Storm Dorian.
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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Okay, it's Thursday, 16 February, year of our Lord, 2023, and all the tumult and, you
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know, things we talk about every day, we try to talk about the signal, not the noise, to
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There's something very important going on in Wilmore, Kentucky, looks like an awakening
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I think the young people have been out there now for eight days plus, and those things
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We'll get more details of that hopefully tomorrow, some on-site.
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But it's the great heartland of this country, right there in bluegrass country in Kentucky.
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Not too far away, I want to go to Michael Patrick Leahy, the founder of the Star News Network
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He's got all these papers all across the country.
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Leahy, this is kind of why you were at Breitbart and doing a great job.
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The reason you kind of left is to do this, to make sure that you had these kind of local,
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And of course, all the smart guys in the business now, actually, as everybody's following you,
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you're the first to sit there and go, I think we really ought to focus on local news in these
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This is, it's just outrageous what's going on there, because this is the deplorables.
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That little town is kind of the, you just see, that is America right there.
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And we're going to play some clips here in a second.
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We've also got Nick Sartor is going to join us from East Ohio.
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What's the latest in this drama that is unfolding, sir?
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Governor Mike DeWine has yet to declare it a disaster.
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There's a process whereby a governor declares a disaster, either a natural disaster from a hurricane
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or just an ordinary disaster from something that's not weather related.
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It goes to FEMA and they either accept it or reject it.
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But he's not declared a disaster yet, even though Senator Sherrod Brown, a Democrat, wrote
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him a letter this morning and said, you really should declare this a disaster.
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He put out a statement from his press secretary today, Dan Tierney, that, well, we weren't
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On testing, he said that, well, Norfolk Southern is paying for the testing, so we don't need
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I mean, Norfolk Southern is, according to reports, they're not doing the testing of water
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in East Palestine unless the resident there signs a waiver.
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It seems to me that DeWine has been very, very slow to respond here, and I don't think
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Well, to declare a disaster, you have to put together the timeline.
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You've got to actually, when you put the disaster, here's what happened when, this is
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They don't want to be, he doesn't want anybody snooping around.
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And if the good folks down in East Palestine have to suffer, then, you know, as long as
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he doesn't attract more national media, he wants to kick the can down the road.
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It is mind-boggling that you would not make the application to declare this a disaster
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And to have the company doing the testing, by the way, if the company wants to test, have
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You have to have your own independent tests and your own government agencies do the test.
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And particularly, when they're having the poor citizens there sign a release, and that
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release is just not, hey, lettuce coming in test, and if I stumble over a rug, I know
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You're letting me off the hook for any bad air, anything we find in here.
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Look, no, like I said, it's a, that's the way it's still, they should put, they should
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actually ask them to, if they want some aluminum siding at the same time, just take the whole
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And the poor folks there, Leahy, this is what I don't understand.
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Why were they not at the town hall last night, sir?
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Well, the CEO there, Alan Shaw, said that he'd been up there to visit them at some point.
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I don't recall seeing him there, but we'll take him at his word.
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But they said they were concerned about their own personal security, which seems, you know,
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The governor should have declared a disaster and asked for FEMA relief on February 4th.
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And remember, the controlled burn took, the controlled burn of the vinyl chloride took
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That's when that big plume went up with all the, the hazardous materials.
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And we still, by the way, do not have a response in over 48 hours from either the governor's
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office, Governor DeWine, or from the EPA as to the name of the onsite coordinator there
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from the EPA, who had the legal authority to issue the order to do the controlled burn.
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By the way, this is, I want to make sure we, we go through this.
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There's a controlled burn, but before there's a controlled burn, there's a controlled release.
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And this is going to be, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm not wrong on this, this is going to be
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And this is one of the reasons Mike DeWine does not want to send the paperwork to higher
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authorities at FEMA to get, for disaster relief, because he's got to lay out the narrative with
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the times and like, who made this decision when, they don't want that.
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They don't want the accountability timeline, because somebody is going to have to sit there.
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And finally, we've heard all this theoretical stuff about shards and the temperatures dropping
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in the tanks, and that they came up with some stuff and they had somebody else check it.
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So far, they've not put anything in front of the public.
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They could get all of this off their back, Michael Patrick Leahy, if they just put the
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models in front of you, just put the timeline in front of you, here's who actually signed
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You could have a press conference and you could do a TED Talk.
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They get the bullet points, boom, and everybody be happy.
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And the reason they don't want to do it, they kind of made it up as they go along, and
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The company said, yeah, this thing's going to blow up, and there's going to be shards
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So we got to get it out of the tank like right now.
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And oh, yeah, instead of transferring to another tank, let's just burn it.
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First off, define to me what a controlled burn of these type of chemicals are.
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Or once you burn them, they turn it into Fosgene gas.
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The same gas that in World War I was so horrible on places like the Somme and these other great
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battles in World War I that they had treaties afterwards to ban it.
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Of all the other killing items they had and how they could kill people so brutally, Michael,
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that the one they had to get rid of was Fosgene gas.
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And that's what they burned and came out of those pits right there, that little trench
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they dug right there on Main Street and right by the railroad tracks.
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How does that, why doesn't Mike DeWine, why does he want to put it all into a package, put
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a bow on it and send it up to higher authority, sir?
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I suspect because there's a document that should exist signed by the on-site EPA coordinator
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that should be dated February 6th, which says, you know, they recommend the controlled burn.
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I don't think, I think that document may not exist, Steve, because the EPA is not answering
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It's entirely possible that there is no documentation, even within the state of Ohio, to document who
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It could very well be that this was simply, you know, a verbal direction given by Governor
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DeWine at the recommendation of Norfolk Southern.
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Now, at One American News, our good friend Neil W.
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McCabe interviewed Scott Pullen, an attorney in Ohio, and he said just this afternoon that
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Governor DeWine might possibly have some criminal liability if he issued that order to do the
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controlled burn without the legal authority required under federal law.
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He said there may be criminal liability, although the standard for public officials is much higher
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Steve, if you were living in Ohio or anywhere and you did a controlled burn of this kind of substance,
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Or if I did that, anybody who did that would be in jail right now.
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There's a higher standard for public officials.
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I got to hear that again, because this gets to the key point.
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If you're just some guy and you've got some issue and you're in your backyard and you do
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it, that would bring a criminal charge on you, correct?
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I mean, you would probably, before the sun set that evening, you would probably be in a
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It's a very different standard for public officials, much higher standard.
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But, as you often say, Governor DeWine, you've got to show us the receipts here.
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And I suspect what happened is huge pressure from Norfolk Southern to get the trains moving
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They provided that pressure to DeWine, and he said, OK, let's do it.
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I don't know for sure, but the evidence points that way.
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Like, Jeffrey Clark was the assistant attorney general in the Trump administration for all
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It's actually probably more powerful than even EPA, because this is all regulations and
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And Jeffrey was on the show with Michael the other day, and he said, hey, flat out, it's
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You have an on-scene commander, and those are the only guys that sign off.
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No governor has got any real jurisdiction here, because obviously, the stuff gets into
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the trench, it goes into the river, it goes into the whole Ohio River Valley, you've got
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The thing's a couple of miles from the border of Pennsylvania.
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The air will blow right into Pennsylvania immediately.
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That's why it's a federal, it's interstate, so it's federal jurisdiction.
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You called Ohio Star, contacted the EPA on what day, sir, with this specific question?
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Central Time, and they have not responded to us since on it.
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They obviously don't want to give us the answer.
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That would, you would think, you would think, Michael, that would be pretty easy.
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Isn't it odd that nobody's got, and if you read, this is a thing that needs precision.
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You read the New York Times, you read, now that the media has been forced to cover it,
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it's all the authorities, or then they talk about the company, and they go back and
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Give me a timeline, and give me the nodes of accountability, responsibility, and authority.
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Just dual track it, and then everybody can understand what's going on, and then the Norfolk
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Southern guys don't have to be worried about their personal security, right?
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Everybody knows what happened, how the decisions were made, and the key thing, this is like
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We need to, because we're a science-based, evidence-based database.
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Show me how these decisions were made that have such a massive impact on these good folks
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in East Palestine, Ohio, who totally affected their lives, and I'm not even on the derailment.
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The Federal Transportation Board of Dealers at the company, I'm talking about from the
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time the things were off the track and laying there, after that initial fire went out.
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So we've got to see a detailed timeline, a critical path on who was involved, who made
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decisions, what was the analysis, what alternatives were looked at, until we get into this situation.
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I mean, you've got people running around saying, hey, there's fish dead here.
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You know, Pedro Gonzalez, we're going to try to get him tomorrow.
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Nick, I'll tell you what, Michael Patrick Lay, just hang right there.
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Let me bring in Nick Sartor, who's actually on the ground there in East Palestine, Ohio.
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Hey, listen, and by the way, Nick's co-host of the Roundtable.
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What is the latest in between, like, the company, the government entities, and then I want to know about the people.
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So this is a quickly evolving situation, believe it or not, especially now that there are good media outlets such as yourself that are putting emphasis on this story,
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sort of going out and being the people's voice that are here on the ground, right?
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And then finally, this week, they started getting a lot of grassroots media attention.
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And then that's when the mainstream media comes in.
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They didn't care about it until it became a hot topic online, right?
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The Biden administration still doesn't care about the situation.
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Everybody here knows that Joe Biden gives no craps about anything that's going on here or the people.
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This is not a friendly area for him politically, right?
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You've got a pothole Pete Buttigieg, which people would love to see him out here because they're terrified that this is just going to happen again.
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So they don't come across as being too worried about it.
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They'll send a carefully crafted press release out and act like they're great people.
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By the way, a company that's got $38 billion in assets on its balance sheet has got a $54 billion market cap.
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They put up initially, Nick, I don't know what you're complaining about.
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They were going to put up $25,000 to take care of any inconvenience you had.
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But are people getting to the timeline of exactly who made these decisions, who made the decision about the controlled release, who authorized and made the decision on the controlled burn, who's made the decisions on monitoring?
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The senior guy at the Justice Department said the EPA on-scene commander is the only one who can make this decision.
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Are the folks out there feel that people, either authorities or the company, are dealing straight with them?
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Nobody wants to take responsibility for this, especially because people now realize that if this happened in the middle of Washington, D.C., they're not going to blow a mushroom cloud into the sky.
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This is something that they felt was done just because the government at the time thought it would be the easiest thing to do.
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And, you know, the government tries to justify it as they can, but they don't like to say much at all.
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The more they talk, to be honest with you, the less people trust them because they end up – they contradict themselves all the time, especially Mike DeWine.
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He is just horrible with it, telling everybody it's safe to come back to their town.
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And then the next week saying, oh, well, you know, you need to be using only bottled water.
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He's saying, hey, I've got to burn the clothes I wore.
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Is it as bad as it looks, represented for the fish and the wells and the smell and all that?
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Well, yesterday they had taken about 6,000 fish, actually, out of one of the streams.
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There was a lady that I was talking to today that had – she puts out minnow traps at night.
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Yesterday – it's the same lady that you're actually seeing in this video right here.
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She puts out minnow traps at night, and she typically catches a lot of minnows.
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How many streams have you seen with rainbows in them?
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But you don't see a lot of damage, physical damage, that is right – besides, like, buildings that are right next to the railroad tracks.
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Then you see rail cars and then vehicles that were near.
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But the real damage is going to be seen in 5, 10, 15 years to people's health and lives.
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When you say 6,000 fish, are you telling me they weren't 6,000 live fish?
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Okay, Nick, you've got to help me out here, brother.
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It looks like the rainbow – it looks like the Wizard of Oz, the opening color scene in the Wizard of Oz, right, with the rainbow.
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How has Mike DeWine – how has Mike DeWine not submitted the paperwork to declare this a disaster area, sir?
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In my opinion, it's because, you know, when you declare an area safe, you're the governor.
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You tell everybody it's now safe to go back in.
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And then the people go back in, and then you declared a disaster.
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You know, there wasn't another explosion, right?
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If you declare it safe, it better be safe because this is going to be a political disaster for him.
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He's backed himself into a corner where he's going to have to – if he actually wants federal aid, he's going to have to declare an emergency.
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Where are they right now, just completely despondent and depressed, think nobody's got their back?
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They're terrified of what's going to happen when the media stops covering them at all, right?
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If the media is out of here totally, you know, they feel like that's what the Biden administration is waiting on to hope that it just goes away.
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And then once it goes away, you know, then this town will just – what they think is it'll just collapse because people don't trust it.
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They can't do anything because they're terrified.
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And they don't think it's going to get any better.
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Nick, how do people follow you on your reporting on social media?
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We'd love to – we'll work with you afterwards.
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We'd love to have you back on tomorrow's morning show.
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But how do people get to you and follow you overnight with all the great content you're putting up?
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So they can go to – they can go on Twitter, and it's at Nick Sorter.
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And, you know, I pretty much live-tweet this situation.
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And, you know, we had the EPA administrator here who, like I said, didn't say much.
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But there is a lot of developing information now, given the additional media attention this is getting.
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They put it on at 6.30 p.m., you know, in a short time slot.
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So it's independent people like us, you know, that aren't beholden to a massive corporation
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that are the ones getting this story out and are giving people the real background here.
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Nick, fantastic reporting, really fantastic, and let the people know.
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By the way, is there any – are good lawyers showing up that people feel like they're now saying get people there that are being represented?
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So there are personal injury, like class-action type attorneys that have come to – there was a meeting at the American Legion here the other day.
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This was before the town hall meeting that you may have seen that had like 700 people at it.
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And there was a small group of class-action attorneys, but in reality, these – maybe they'll come at some point,
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but I'm surprised that I haven't seen a lot more ambulance chasers than I have.
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So – and there are people here asking for attorneys, and they don't know where to go.
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Look forward to following this and having you back on.
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And by the way, this – and politics shouldn't have anything to do with it here.
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This is about what government's supposed to do to make sure they protect – we're paying a fortune for all this stuff.
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But to know how MAGA Ohio is, and particularly this part, this is Trump country right there.
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Do you think one of the reasons it's not getting the focus is that these are the deplorables?
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I think that's one of the political reasons why the EPA is not responding to our questions about what happened in East Palestine, Ohio.
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Sherrod Brown is the Democrat senator from Ohio.
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You notice today he's the one that sent the letter to Governor DeWine asking him to declare an emergency.
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I can tell you this, the biggest pressure for that national emergency – for the declaration of emergency is going to come from Brown because he sees the political heat in 2024.
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You got to explain this to me, Leahy, because you're smarter than I am.
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I mean, this thing's a disaster for these people.
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He's not declaring an emergency and not declaring a disaster.
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For a disaster declaration, there are two kinds.
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The governor has to request of FEMA, and there are two kinds.
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An emergency declaration for anything, which has a limit of like five million bucks, and then if you go over that, you got to go to Congress and tell them you want more money.
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But the major declaration of a disaster or like a hurricane, et cetera, there's a little bit at the end of that guideline.
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You can also call a major declaration for, wait for it, an explosion.
00:33:04.500
Now, I think there was an explosion there of chemicals on February 3rd and then a controlled burn that was an explosion on February 6th.
00:33:12.020
So the governor could call for a major declaration of a disaster there.
00:33:19.320
He could send it to FEMA, and they would probably not turn it down if he did it.
00:33:25.760
But he's got to put his case together, as you pointed out, Steve.
00:33:30.220
Because he has to put the timeline and who had authority and decisions he made and what were they based upon, he'd have to put it in the package to take it to FEMA.
00:33:43.040
He could declare it, but to get it declared by the federal government or, I guess, supported by the federal government to actually get your money,
00:33:51.300
he would have to actually put together a package that laid through everything that was done.
00:33:54.880
And that's not going to look very good, is it, Michael Patrick Leahy?
00:33:58.500
Well, if there is no authorization from the federally designated on-site coordinator from the EPA, it's going to look very bad.
00:34:09.140
And FEMA might say, hmm, this is your problem, buddy.
00:34:13.840
You created the problem, and we're not going to give you any money.
00:34:16.780
Now, if he put the declaration in, the political pressure would be there for FEMA to say yes.
00:34:24.640
But they're not in a hurry, and Governor DeWine is also not in a hurry.
00:34:33.240
You just heard Nick Sorter, who's doing a terrific job out there.
00:34:41.000
We've got to help pull this together, because they feel like they've been abandoned.
00:34:54.460
And they just had on Fox the other day, they had somebody, one of the announcers saying,
00:34:57.720
well, I just talked to the congressman, and he thinks Biden's doing a great job out here.
00:35:01.800
I don't understand why the Republicans and DeWine and these guys, this is Ohio.
00:35:07.080
The reason we're even competitive in these presidential elections is because Ohio,
00:35:12.780
where when in Ohio, with a big enough gap, it allows us to spend time and money.
00:35:19.620
Look at J.D. Vance, the big one we had there in the Senate.
00:35:22.520
And Sherrod Brown should be on the endangered species list.
00:35:25.520
He's not going to be because of this very situation.
00:35:28.800
Now, I hate to take a talk, get down to politics about this, but somebody's got to have these
00:35:33.780
First off, you should just do it as your normal job.
00:35:36.560
And DeWine's always saying about, you know, how he's all about the people and, you know,
00:35:40.440
with the pandemic and everything like this, this is really outrageous.
00:35:43.960
And I got to tell you, people have to be held accountable for this.
00:35:47.640
The company's got to be held accountable, but also the government officials.
00:35:51.840
And right now, you can tell Biden just wants this thing to go away.
00:35:57.060
He doesn't want anybody, any big, big time EPA people out there.
00:36:03.780
Well, my closing thought is right now we need, there needs to be political pressure from
00:36:09.840
everyone in the congressional delegation in Ohio, in addition to the Democrat senator
00:36:15.600
up for reelection, Sherrod Brown, to push Governor DeWine to call for, ask for the declaration
00:36:26.760
It's right there in the federal FEMA regulation.
00:36:29.020
He can do that, get that to FEMA as soon as possible and get the federal aid rolling in
00:36:38.980
We're going to get even more involved in this, Leahy.
00:36:42.260
This is why you set these great papers up, these great news sites.
00:36:45.740
You were the guy that got the joke first of how important this is, and this is a perfect
00:36:52.280
This shows you a nation in decline because the people in authority, quote-unquote, the elites,
00:37:01.120
And the people at East Palestine, Ohio, are the ones that fight your wars, build your country,
00:37:07.800
pay the taxes, just want to get along and be left alone, right?
00:37:11.820
In situations like this, extraordinary situations, they want to make sure that somebody's got their
00:37:17.780
And the government not only doesn't have their back, it's working against them.
00:37:21.120
And this controlled burn, like you said, if you'd done this in your yard or something
00:37:30.080
And if this was in the East Hamptons, trust me, okay?
00:37:33.800
If this was out there near Shinnecock or in the beautiful East Hamptons, if this happened
00:37:37.880
out there, they would have done, they would have flown, the top experts in the world have
00:37:42.260
been flown in before anybody touched anything, okay?
00:37:46.800
And that's this kind of burning discontent that the American people, because they can look
00:37:53.860
This is why Hillary Clinton called them the deplorables.
00:38:00.780
We treated these people out there like trash, and they're not trash.
00:38:07.920
Michael Patrick Lay, how do we get to all your sites, all your coverage?
00:38:16.340
You can reach me on Twitter, Getter, or Truth Social at Michael P. Leahy.
00:38:27.080
You know, I had an entire, I had a, thanks, brother.
00:38:29.920
I had an entirely different show we're going to do tonight.
00:38:32.480
I had Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel, Hugh Hewitt actually did a very good interview with Peter
00:38:43.940
We're going to deconstruct coming right off Biden's, you know, the illegitimate regime
00:38:50.080
head, Joe Biden's, you know, what he did this fiasco today.
00:38:55.100
I was going to have Peter Thiel off the Hugh Hewitt show.
00:38:57.760
We're going to break it all down, talk about that.
00:38:59.600
Then I was going to roll into some things that are happening, particularly in, I don't
00:39:02.480
think people realizing crypto and in Bitcoin, kind of the surge has got to reach out to
00:39:08.060
I should call him the mad bomb thrower, Mark Jeff to Vic up in Canada.
00:39:13.400
I want to talk a little bit about, I want to talk about crypto and particularly want
00:39:16.620
to talk because you, you, you follow this quite, you do so much great stuff.
00:39:20.260
And I got to tell you, I I'm so appreciative that you give me a heads up on these great
00:39:24.880
You're right, because I, I'm going to tell the audience, Jeff to Vic, he doesn't send
00:39:28.160
me a lot, but when he sends me stuff, I'll read it right away.
00:39:31.440
And I got to tell you within 24 hours, it's up, it's up as the lead story over at zero hedge,
00:39:36.800
which is the benchmark for what's hot and what's smart.
00:39:45.540
Hey, Steve, thanks for, thanks for your kind words.
00:39:50.140
Bitcoin is off to its, uh, greatest calendar year start in its history.
00:39:56.320
And, uh, I mean, I typically tell my readers don't pay a lot of attention to the short-term
00:40:03.860
We're long-term thinkers, long-term oriented, but when a, when a 12% move happens in five
00:40:10.400
hours, like it did yesterday, even I sit up in my chair and when I look back at it, um,
00:40:17.060
it's just, this feels like, um, like a Bitcoin bottom, which is really right on schedule for
00:40:25.700
a cycle that's baked straight into the protocol.
00:40:28.380
I mean, if you look at, hang on, I want, I want, I want to say something.
00:40:33.940
We do this as much strategically because it's, we're trying to build alternative economies
00:40:40.520
We want people to have alternatives, particularly so people don't hate you, but I thought this
00:40:56.600
Walk us through what would have been the price shifts here?
00:41:00.700
Um, if you put up the first slide on the assets so far this year, um, we see like Bitcoin
00:41:07.200
is up the most out of everything this year, including oil, including gold, including, uh,
00:41:13.280
the NASDAQ and lately cryptos have been trading with the NASDAQ quite a bit.
00:41:18.420
And, um, in my mind, like everyone, you said, you know, people, um, bad mouth Bitcoin.
00:41:30.200
I don't think about this in terms of will the government allow Bitcoin?
00:41:33.920
I think of this in terms of which governments are going to survive Bitcoin.
00:41:37.940
In your previous segment, you talked about a nation in decline, in decline.
00:41:42.340
We're in, we're also witnessing a monetary system in decline, and we're witnessing late
00:41:56.140
Hang on, hang on, hang on, brother, brother, brother.
00:41:58.020
The congressional budget office in the New York times, you know, these are not people
00:42:07.400
with their hair on fire, $19 trillion in the next 10 years.
00:42:14.180
$19 trillion on top of the 32, they get you over $50 trillion.
00:42:18.360
No country, in fact, the, the, the, the holding of the public, the public holding of debt at,
00:42:25.500
at the treasury, at the fed is going to be over a hundred percent of the economy, not
00:42:38.640
No country on earth has ever come back from this.
00:42:43.580
So talk to me about, when you talk about alternative and you talk about crypto, walk me through
00:42:49.660
how this, in your logic, how this is rebounding.
00:42:57.760
Most of the people were waiting for something called the Fed pivot for the central banks to
00:43:03.160
kind of take their foot off the gas pedal on the interest rate hikes and they, and everyone,
00:43:07.740
and I think correctly so has been saying the Fed can't keep raising interest rates to your
00:43:15.300
But there's another aspect of Bitcoin, which is sort of dovetailing with this Fed, slow
00:43:20.100
motion Fed pivot that hasn't really been paid attention to.
00:43:24.700
And that's the four year halving cycle in Bitcoin.
00:43:28.300
And so every four years, it just means without getting too technical, every four years, the
00:43:33.120
mining block reward for mining Bitcoin and securing the blockchain, it cuts in half and
00:43:41.700
And because Bitcoin is the opposite of fiat money in that you can't inflate it to nothing,
00:43:47.300
every time this cuts in half, it becomes an order of magnitude more valuable.
00:43:55.420
It creates sort of like a buying pressure in the system.
00:43:59.540
And if we look at where we are in the cycle now, it's like clockwork.
00:44:03.800
So what happens is about 15 months before the next halving, Bitcoin starts its rise.
00:44:11.560
And that, I think, is what is happening here even more than the Fed pivot.
00:44:15.220
If you look at that second slide I sent over, the next Bitcoin halving is in May 2024.
00:44:22.520
And 15 months before May 2024 is actually February, like right now.
00:44:29.740
And in fact, Bitcoin and cryptos bottomed in December.
00:44:34.120
And then since December, they've just taken off like rockets.
00:44:37.920
We saw the first slide to how it compares to the other assets.
00:44:43.200
And in that last table I sent you, this pattern, I mean, technical analysts will tell you to
00:44:50.360
be wary of patterns because they're not etched in stone.
00:44:53.860
But the Bitcoin pattern is actually baked into the protocol itself because of this four-year
00:45:00.260
And we see from 2011 all the way up to 2022, we have three up years, a down year, three
00:45:07.280
up years, a down year, three up years, and a down year.
00:45:13.160
So who, you know, there's another halving coming 15 months down the road in 2024.
00:45:18.840
And with all of the other political and geopolitical and financial tailwinds hitting Bitcoin, we've
00:45:25.740
got governments weaponizing the banking system against their citizens, against each other.
00:45:30.820
There are even more impetus to get into Bitcoin and protect your wealth.
00:45:36.680
Well, we're going to spend a lot more time on this, Mark, and I want you to give however
00:45:44.280
But I just got to ask you a question because you're also a numbers guy.
00:45:54.920
If we go down this path of the plan they've laid out, which are, and I called it $1.4 trillion
00:46:02.600
And this is from the CBO, it's reported by the New York Times, $2 trillion in deficits
00:46:16.800
And that is going to destroy the, and by the way, the only way they, the only reason they
00:46:20.540
can get away with this is because they got the Federal Reserve over there.
00:46:24.340
They hit the button and the Federal Reserve creates more fiat money.
00:46:29.240
And people think more money, more wealth, it's the exact opposite.
00:46:33.440
The more money, the more destruction of wealth.
00:46:38.760
Then you got the geopolitical global war crisis merging in with the financial crisis, just
00:46:45.220
You're having the convergence of those two right now.
00:46:48.060
And I'm telling you, it's going to be Katie bar the door.
00:46:50.240
Jeff DeVick, how do people get to you in all your sights?
00:46:53.480
And like I said, when Mark sends me something, the next day, boom, it's up as the lead of Zero Hedge,
00:46:59.040
which is a pretty good, and that's my New York Times.
00:47:06.760
So bombthrower.com is the main website for the articles.
00:47:11.320
You can get on the mailing list there for the free crypto capitalist report.
00:47:15.480
If you want to go straight to the newsletter, just go to thecryptocapitalist.com and hit
00:47:25.200
Oh, bombthrower on Getter and Stunt Pope on Twitter.
00:47:35.260
We'll make sure we get them all up in the chat rooms.
00:47:41.100
We're going to – you've got to look at alternatives.
00:47:45.400
One of the reasons we're doing this for all the alternative economy stuff, all the – remember,
00:47:51.200
By the way, the guys that hate you the most are the guys in charge of this.
00:47:55.320
If the same thing you're seeing out in East Palestine, Ohio, this is exactly what it is.
00:48:05.260
If we do this, if we follow this plan that's laid out in the CBO, your children and grandchildren
00:48:09.900
not only will they be destroyed, they will curse our generation if we let that happen.
00:48:15.540
I want to go – I've got to tell you, some worked-up folks out there in Arizona.
00:48:18.820
Let's go to Floyd Brown of the Western Journal.
00:48:20.600
Floyd, you're the guy I always turn to for all things out West, particularly in the great
00:48:33.040
So, what we know is that the appellate court is as corrupt as the trial court was.
00:48:40.320
And, you know, you've got to pray for Arizona at this point because, you know, we've faced
00:48:55.680
They aren't stepping up and doing the right thing.
00:48:57.600
What we're dealing with is an entire corrupt system.
00:49:09.580
Is it they didn't agree with our facts or we didn't make the right arguments?
00:49:13.720
Are you saying, hey, we had the right arguments, the right facts, and they just – they didn't
00:49:25.040
We have – you know, I think our fact pattern is absolutely excellent for a case like this.
00:49:32.560
I mean, remember, this is not a traditional lawsuit.
00:49:42.680
You know, if I hadn't lived through it – I say this to a lot of people – if I hadn't
00:49:45.640
lived through it myself and seen it firsthand, I wouldn't believe what happened in Maricopa
00:49:52.300
I mean, literally 400,000-plus ballots, Steve, wouldn't feed into the machines.
00:50:00.900
We have no chain of custody on any of those ballots.
00:50:04.460
We have, you know, thousands, tens of thousands of ballots showing up after the election.
00:50:15.160
And, you know, I think Kurt Olson and the lawyers that were involved did an excellent
00:50:22.360
But in the end, these judges are just throwing up their hands and they're saying, you know,
00:50:36.980
There's one quote in here, maybe – we only got a couple minutes, Floyd, but there's
00:50:41.960
Arizona law recognizes only limited grounds to contest election results for state office.
00:50:49.380
You guys had pretty – I mean, you came in and laid out the case within those kind of
00:51:01.220
I call it judges not stepping up and doing their job.
00:51:06.280
And, I mean, what we are facing – I mean, I heard your last segment, Steve, where you
00:51:12.160
talked about how the Federal Reserve and the federal government are sending us into an
00:51:19.040
Well, you know, not only are those institutions failing, we have these state institutions that
00:51:25.040
are failing, our elections are failing, and, you know, we don't live in a constitutional
00:51:31.340
republic if, in fact, our leaders are selected and not elected.
00:51:36.840
And we know that that's happened in at least two cycles here in Arizona, and it's absolutely
00:51:43.040
But I call it the systemic failure – the systemic failure of our basic institutions.
00:51:50.980
And if the judges won't step up and correct things, I don't know what hope we have.
00:51:58.280
I want everybody to go to – what's your social media and how they get to Western Journal?
00:52:02.240
Well, it's westernjournal.com, or you can find me on Twitter, at Floyd Brown.
00:52:09.280
I'm also on True Social and Getter, at Floyd Brown.
00:52:13.200
So follow me there, and I'll try to keep you updated on this.
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