WarRoom Battleground EP 238： How Safe Is It To Stay In East Palestine, Ohio
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ED dowd and Mike Adams from Natural News join me to talk about why the Pfizer clinical trial should have been halted, and why the data supports our theory that it was due to a lack of vaccine uptake.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
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here's your host stephen k bannon okay welcome it is uh monday 20 february in the year of our lord
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2023 it is president's day and we've had uh quite a day we're getting to all of it
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uh from the ukraine to um the nation's capital i want to start i've asked two very special people
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kind of kick this off in this uh hour of the show that'd be ed dowd uh and the mike adams from natural
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news one of my favorite sites i want to start with that so ed um you put this thing out i saw it over
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the weekend when you got it to me it blew me away and of course the great guys over zero hedge picked
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it up right away the trials should have been halted uh rate of serious adverse events closely
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track spike and post-fax disabilities so that's kind of got it's going viral everybody's talking
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about it walk us through what do you mean what math shows you that the trial should have been
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halted because as we made the case here in our theory the case is that this is a clinical trial
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we're doing so how do you back that up with uh i said a mathematics i said the trials if it it is a
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clinical trial and as a clinical trial should have been halted so um in part three of our disability
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analysis on our website finance technologies let's just throw up the first chart this chart's been on
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your um show before uh it basically showed the vaccine uptake and the um uh and the disability uh
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increases in the in the bureau of labor statistics we we had a 0.89 uh fit and of course the naysayers
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will say well correlation is not causation but the timing of it's odd certainly you know on wall street
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we wouldn't pay attention to correlation is not causation we would buy that chart and and just move
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on and and not get into that debate but we decided to do an analysis of a paper that came out in september
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22 that reviewed the two month blinded uh serious adverse events in the pfizer clinical trial and we
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took uh those serious adverse events and we came up with our own estimates and we modeled using very
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conservative assumptions and people will attack our assumptions but we came up with a um uh a disability
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rate from those two months and we and we modeled them forward so in the second chart this is the result
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of our our work basically uh we show that there's a 0.87 fit and it's the same order of magnitude in
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the clinical trials as what we're seeing in the real world the mean is below uh the real world but we
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suspect that's due to the very narrow definition of what uh pfizer and moderna called serious adverse
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events or severe adverse events uh they they um had a very narrow definition they also cherry-picked uh
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the patients for the clinical trial that were probably much healthier than the general u.s
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population and so uh it's underestimating but it's the same order of magnitude it's it underestimates
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by two point hold on i just want to make sure you're you're you're hang on you're that's just
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speculation you're important about how they chose better ones that that you're that's that's you're
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thinking on this right we haven't we haven't shown that we haven't shown that yet in evidence or data
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have we no they they chose the depth a very narrow definition of what a serious adverse event is even
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with that very narrow definition and our conservative modeling it's the same order of magnitude of what
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we're seeing in the real world with a 0.87 fit it's 2.6 times less than what's going on in the real
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world but in in in in physics and this is what carlos and i were talking about same order of magnitude
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means in the ballpark they were seeing with their very narrow definition of what a serious adverse
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event was enough to halt the trial and then in part six of our uh disability analysis this is part
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five i'm showing you we're going to look at uh another paper on pfizer's clinical trial and the fit is
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almost perfect there but at the end of the day they should have halted the trial mathematically
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knowing that we're still in this quote-unquote trial what do you think it's going to take for
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instance is it the insurance companies is it the shorts on wall street i mean you've got people that
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are very aggressive as you know from your previous line of work uh of wanting to get bad news and
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understand how they think through bad news and how that's going to manifest itself in the operations of
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of a company and ultimately in its stock price how do you think this gets disseminated that the fact
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that this is a trial that should have been halted but it's still not being halted so word is slowly
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getting out uh when i wrote the book i noted that uh the admission of sudden deaths in young people
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especially millennials wasn't going on in the last two weeks uh we've had articles out of bloomberg
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saying yes millennials are dying so they're admitting that young people are dying but they the headline
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was it's not the vaccine and also yahoo news came out with something so we're at the point now we're
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admitting that there's uh uh sudden deaths that are going on amongst young people i uh had a whistleblower
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in the government tell me that the biden administration was looking at declaring a pandemic of it and
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blaming other things they haven't done that yet but the the the fact that young people are dying is
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getting out there that's becoming undeniable obviously i blame the vaccine i'm 150 convicted
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uh so it's the news is going to come out and unfortunately when the news comes out it's going
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to cause um a lot of fear and a lot of anger and those who don't have this information that you and
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i have in the war room has had for a long long time the asymmetric information gap is going to close it's
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going to cause chaos and i suspect what's been going on in the geopolitical front by the global
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governments is uh fear and panic inside the halls of power as this comes to light because a lot of
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things are going to change once this comes to light but have you first off have you seen this
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in other countries to the degree that you have statistics here that you feel comfortable with
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working number one and what did bloomberg when bloomberg wrote the article yes we admit that
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younger people are dying did they put it on the pressures that came out of covid the lockdowns
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the psychological pressures those types of things how what did they attribute it to
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uh bloomberg attributed to all those yahoo actually made the absurd claim that they talked to an expert
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some unnamed expert that suggested that young people when they get omicron now because it's that's the
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current strain going around in covid young people respond very adversely because their immune systems
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are very strong and it causes strokes heart attacks and other issues because of the immune response
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from covid natural immune response but it's not the vaccine apparently it's it's your own god-given
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immune response did they did they address did they look at the data that you've looked at and
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dismissed it or no and they said it's got it's something other than the vax or they will not address
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it regarding the vax they don't go they won't go after the vax i don't address any of our work we're
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being ignored completely by the mainstream media there was a hit piece by ap on the the documentary died
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suddenly no mention of my team my book or anything like that i was not affiliated with the died
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suddenly documentary nor did i see it so there seems to be a blackout on the data that we have
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and other people have i mean the data in the u.s it's you know we have the data for all of europe the uk
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uh australia and we're going to do canada we have germany it's it's bad all around yeah it's a mixture
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from old to young especially amongst the uh employed of of different countries we don't have the data
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down to that granularity but in the u.s the employed were adversely hit because of the
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mandates so wherever there were mandates uh job mandates in other countries those people were hit
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as well what is it going to take to have our like the balloon moment is it is it going to be a hearing
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is going to be you in front of a hearing uh is it going to be 60 minutes covering this what do you
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what do you what would you anticipate you would need to broaden this out to it to an audience that's
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uh let's say not not as up to speed on these things but could be that but that could be brought
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along if they saw this data uh well a beginning was last tuesday i filmed uh an interview with
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tucker carlson in his fox nation uh longer format series interview it's going to drop on wednesday
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and hopefully he puts a clip of some of that interview on his nightly news channel on tuesday
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night to promote it so it's beginning and uh josh sterling uh one of the insurance executives
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that from wall street that helped me out he is uh launching a to save a million lives um campaign with
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65 insurance executives so it's things are starting to crumble on on the inside in the insurance industry
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and more and more traction hold on don't yeah don't bury the lead uh the the fox nation is great
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particularly the way tucker can do these in-depth interviews that he can't have doesn't have time
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from the shows but an insurance executive coming out and saying i want i'm getting 60 other insurance
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executives and i want to save a million lives that's blockbuster when has josh launched launched that
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uh he uh he released it on thursday it's making the rounds on linkedin um it's uh it's it's it's
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it's basically uh it's not an acknowledgement that it's the vaccines per se but it's an acknowledgement
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that we have a problem when we need to start testing uh for all sorts of things to save a
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million lives and they they have 65 executives in this working table they set up a non-profit
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um they kind of view themselves as the uh red cross of old uh that has to go in and do triage because
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no one else will are they looked at as uh apostates in the uh in the insurance industry or are they
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looked at as somebody really trying to get as the insurance industry right away that these guys
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there's nothing to see here uh we have not had any uh blowback to my knowledge on what's going on
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with josh and his team uh but curiously enough what we really need is a ceo of one of the larger
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insurance companies to come out and say they have serious concerns about the vaccine and that they're
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going to look at it we need that absent that this is going to this is going to be very helpful
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you have to remember last year we uh sent 100 letters to ceos we only got 20 people on the calls
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uh with the other with the doctors on the front line and and uh and from that 20 we had a working
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group of five so the working group of five has expanded to 65 uh insurance uh executives from
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medical teams uh actuaries some cfos but it it's it's it's coming to light and it's a big deal
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um zelinski today you know uh the chinese uh head diplomat foreign uh service officer the head of
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foreign affairs is in um it's in moscow tonight they're they're reinforcing the the partnership
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they've had since the olympics and when they announced they had an unlimited strategic partnership
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zelinski says kind of uh you know um drafting off the war room that if those two come together
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uh on the ukraine situation that it's the beginning of the third world war something
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we've said for the longest time and with the biden regime's policies have driven us to
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geopolitically first off do you agree with that do you think we're at the early stages of the third
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world war and and where do you see this thing heading since you you used to specialize in this
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with all your trading you were a macro guy yeah so a couple problems here um twitter is on fire today
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with people just waking up and noticing what the war room and you have noticed for a while that
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we're on the edge of world war three a lot of pundits are asking the question why is our
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administration insanely uh running into into a world war three situation and i i suspect i'm a cynical
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guy that uh world war three solves a lot of issues solves the sovereign debt crisis and solves uh the
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vaccine uh murder that's gone on wipes a bunch of stuff off off the map and uh directs everyone's
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attention to world to a world war now uh you know i hope that doesn't turn out to be the case but
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you know that that that's definitely in play i think um and the capital markets may be starting to
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sniff this out the u.s dollar in in a world war three situation would uh go up quite a bit uh and uh the
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dollar uh the the dxy the the basket of uh uh uh you know the the index that is the basket of
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currencies bottomed last about two weeks ago and it's starting to go up we think it put a very in a
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very significant bottom and also the stock market is on a razor's edge right now i i don't like to
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make predictions but if i had to guess the stock market's going to fall apart in the next week or two
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you wouldn't think there'd be some flight to safety that they would look at the united states
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as the as the safe harbor in a in a world gone gone mad sir it's it's the most liquid instrument
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it will the the technicals suggest that's what's going to happen and we suspect that uh um we've seen
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um buyers come back into the bond market and uh the fed the fed is going to have to pause uh if there
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is a world war three i don't think they're going to be hiking into a world war three situation
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uh and how can people get uh access to you all your contact points and coordinates on uh on the
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website the book and the uh social media yeah so i'm on uh getter at edward dowd i'm back on twitter
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at dowd edward uh finance technologies with a ph instead of an f it's got all our excess mortality
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u.s disability data and then i have my own personal website they lied people died i also wrote a book
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that is uh kind of a uh book for your loved ones that don't think uh what we know is true and uh
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that is can be ordered on amazon cause unknown epidemic of sudden death in 21 and 22
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no that book is going to be the touchstone we're going to be one of the basics for the hearings are
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come up and we'll get into all that as start rolling ed doubt honored to have you on here thanks
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for taking time away to do this today thank you take care steve i want to get mike adams don't
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put the cold open for us i want to get mike adams so mike i want to get your thinking about before i
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get into the specifics of of east uh palestine you're you're uh one of the smartest geopolitical
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thinkers i know give me your thoughts about what ed dow just said what zelinski said we've been
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preaching this gospel you know china as well as anybody we've been preaching this gospel of the
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third world war for a while uh give us your thoughts what's happened over the last 24 48 hours
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well i think ed dow just nailed it and by the way his his numbers and his statistical analysis are right
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on no one's got stronger numbers than he does no one's put more you know elbow grease into this
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statistically speaking than he has and he knows that the tipping point is very close and so world war
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three is being i believe accelerated by u.s state department in particular people like
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victoria nuland and blinken and others in order to uh to cover these other massive crimes that are
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really really close to a breaking point so and and also of course you know you got to figure in the
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nordstrom pipeline but hang on but in in in in in the in the in the although admiral kirby came out
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today and said it's a stone cold lie that seymour hirsch was wrong i just want to make sure we're
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getting both sides here so people can't say that we're conspiracy theory wing nuts kirby did come out
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today and said there's a total lie to the the hirsch thing are are are you are you saying that
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because you can't see any internal logic the reason you're saying hey it's got to be to cover something
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else because there's no internal logic for us to force these two world superpowers together uh in
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partnership with now the mullahs in iran uh you know the saudis the pakistan turkey in a war on the on
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to consolidate the eurasian land masses do you say that it's got to be like ed does it's got to be
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the cover for this cover that because there's no other geopolitical logic that would lead you to
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think of what blinken and biden and jake sullivan have done here well i i think the more compelling
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argument is that there's there are so many domestic issues that are about to break that they really need
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to to change the tune dramatically and change people's focus onto something that's a bigger
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emergency so that's where i really do think this is coming from but i also believe that the the west
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believes the western powers believe that if they don't establish uh monetary dominance and petrodollar
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dominance from this point forward that they're in real trouble because of the saudis and china
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and the digital yuan and iran and russia working together on those issues so this seems like a
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a tipping point right now where the future of the world reserve currencies and the world
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transactional currencies is about to be determined over the next two years or so and the west either
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wins or loses i mean all the chips are on the table at this point it's either going to be the east or the
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west so they're all in and people i think so our audience may not know about your expertise when it
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comes to china give us a minute on your curriculum vitae you you you i know the site has amazing pieces up
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there but give us your your personal experience of why you know china so well well look i want to give
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credit to uh jack posobik i mean he he knows more about china than i do but you know my uh i i lived
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in taiwan and my wife's family escaped the the chinese communists uh with chiang kai shak and uh
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you know they they've been fighting for freedom for the chinese people ever since and so that's part
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that that's the american tradition of what we do but it's it's a global application of it we believe
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in freedom for the chinese people we believe in ending the ccp we're not anti-china we are pro
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chinese people we're anti-tyranny so that that drives a lot of what we do globally um internationally
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uh right now you know think about how odd it is that china is lending money to the united states so
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the u.s can pay the salaries of the ukrainian government to fight russia you know how long is
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that situation going to remain in place you know at some point that that ends and i have a feeling
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that china is going to initiate an attempted uh you you've talked about this an attempted naval and air
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embargo against taiwan very quickly and uh if so the economic implications are dire
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this is we we have a stake in in taiwan whether you believe in the moral situation of us defending
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a real democracy and and someone that's been there for us for many many decades um it's just 25 percent
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of the u.s economy will fall out and probably worse than that what the people in taiwan do you think feel
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when they see that now their tank the m1 a1 tank that we've issued for them is backed up now in lima ohio
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the ukrainians come first there now we're seeing the ammunition we're running out of ammunition the
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the head of the navy secretary of the navy said before they made him take it down that hey if it
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keeps running in ukraine like it's running we're going to be out of weapons in the western pacific
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in six months are the taiwanese starting to get nervous because they think there's too much attention
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on ukraine and not enough attention on the straits of taiwan and the south china sea absolutely uh the
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taiwan leadership is very much aware of the munitions production problem that the united states
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is currently facing and even promising m1 abrams tanks or promising 90 000 artillery shells a month
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uh that that's two years uh in the future you know that the the u.s military infrastructure does
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not exist to deliver those things today when they're needed today so if taiwan were to face
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uh an attack or an embargo by china the munitions just aren't able to sustain that defense of the
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island nation that's that's critical for the u.s economy so i i think that we've been very foolish
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in sending uh so much to ukraine that we cannot defend taiwan and we cannot defend the continental
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united states as effectively as we could before and uh we better light a fire under the u.s military
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to to get their factories up and running and get our munitions supply back in place but i mean look
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we're looking at global shortages of commodities uh price hikes labor shortage in the united states
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especially in munitions factories the supply chain globally is broken for lots of reasons not not the
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least of which is russia and ukraine that conflict and the swift system a lot of the munitions materials
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rely on global supply chains that depend in part on russia itself including aluminum so it's complicated
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uh mike you know we have the production team here in denver in uh in in memphis and in uh here in
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the capital wherever we go to do the show in one of our studios but we also have what i call the engine
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room people that monitor sites all day long in the engine room had been talking to me saying look
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you got to get mike adams on here and have him because we're talking you know we're nailing people
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about what happened after the train crash you know the development's one thing but about the
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decision to release the decision to burn who's responsible president trump's coming but you're
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the great expert over at natural news on detox what should what is mike adams thoughts here and you've
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heard all the spin from different people and dewine's running away from it that none of the senior guys
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the epa want to get near the place what is your action plan for what you think needs to happen to
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actually sort the system sort the situation out in east palestine and do what's right for for the
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earth for the country for for nature and for the citizens out there sir well i'm i'm going to join
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the call of a guest i just interviewed eric coppolino and he and i are both calling for the immediate total
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evacuation of the town of east palestine the epa is lying they are not testing for dioxins and dioxins
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are the chemical result of the combustion of chlorinated compounds such as vinyl chloride
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that entire area is going to be contaminated for generations to come if they don't do immediate
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remediation we're going to have a long-term cancer curve that will be absolutely catastrophic in my
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opinion now i'm going to confirm all of this in my laboratory we're right now acquiring a gas chromatography
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interface to our mass spec instruments we're going to be able to test for dioxins within a couple of
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months and we're building a network of people who can sample the area i don't trust the epa i don't
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trust even the railroads labs we're going to do independent laboratory testing yeah perfect hang
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over a second mike adams you're so revered in many parts of the you know the let's say the right
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political spectrum some of the left too the right the populist nationalists when you speak people listen
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um you're calling for because mike dewine in the epa of ohio and our epa and the consultants working
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for a company that's got a 54 billion dollar market cap that would be north norfolk southern have said
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hey it's okay it's fine you know this thing we've tested everybody can kind of go back in you're actually
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saying you want the whole town evacuated and we got to get down to the basics here we get we got a problem
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a deep problem yes uh now especially women of childbearing age children and pregnant women
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should have evacuated from day one they should be gone from that town right now uh but there is
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also risk to everybody else they should be removed or relocated uh from from that town and and given
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a place to stay uh the railroad the government fema should step in at this point we need testing of
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dioxins and and then should the dioxins come in at even very low concentrations we're talking about
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toxicity in femtograms which is one one millionth of a billionth of a gram okay uh toxicity at that
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level hormone disruption cancers infertility spontaneous abortions long-term effects we may have to
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take down the entire town as what happened in times beach missouri and they may have to scrape off all
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the soil of the entire area incinerate it and then remediate that and turn it into something where no
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one lives for a century okay that's how bad this situation looks like it is we're working on confirming
00:25:15.200
what caused okay yeah but what caused that and we got about a minute and a half here we're gonna hold you
00:25:20.520
the break the the norfolk southern ceo said they had guys check and did some analysis before they
00:25:27.500
did the control release which is not their authority to do but it looks like they did they called the
00:25:33.160
shot on the on the controlled release first and then the controlled burn well how could they have
00:25:37.840
missed how could scientists or people that do this for a living miss this so badly well they're not
00:25:44.420
they're not scientists they don't understand chemistry and it's not a controlled burn it's an
00:25:48.200
uncontrolled burn at relatively low temperatures that don't accomplish molecular incineration so in
00:25:54.020
order to incinerate these dioxins you need much higher temperatures a couple thousand degrees fahrenheit
00:25:58.340
the open pit burn did not achieve those temperatures so in in effect it formed new toxic compounds during
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this uncontrolled burn that released it into the open air where the wind could carry it anywhere and
00:26:11.720
the rain will bring it down onto the soils Steve we're talking about contamination of the food supply
00:26:18.180
contamination of rivers i mean even cincinnati cut off the intake from the ohio river as a precaution
00:26:25.000
and they're not testing for dioxins in the water by the way they're testing for other compounds but not
00:26:30.440
dioxins so i call this the don't see don't tell policy of chemical toxicity if you don't test for it you
00:26:37.040
uh mike adams from natural news hang over a second we're taking a short commercial break we got mike adams
00:26:43.200
father frank pavone is going to join us also i think there's now a strategy from at least forming from the
00:26:50.320
right to life uh movement politically uh also going to go out to uh oklahoma city and we're going to talk to
00:26:56.300
crime com short break back with mike adams in a sec
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okay mike adams from natural news is is our guest here mike just so we're not freaking people out
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how did you get to the uh dioxin situation and this was not a control the the uh norfolk
00:31:43.560
southern has been saying it over and over again josh shapiro saying it uh dewine saying it the epa
00:31:49.300
administrator saying it was a control burn your theory that this was uncontrolled and caused
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dioxins how did you uh come up with that well it it's it's uncontrolled in the sense that it went
00:32:00.800
into the atmosphere and when you just it was burned in an open pit and and all the smoke went into the
00:32:06.420
sky and then it spread and and we can track uh the area where it spread to and the products of
00:32:12.220
combustion of vinyl chloride or other chlorinated compounds include dioxins this is well known in
00:32:17.980
industry no no chemist would argue with that so the the term controlled burn is a lie it's a cover
00:32:24.800
story it wasn't controlled if it were controlled it would be in a container it would be in a room
00:32:30.720
to control it would be to cart it off in tanker trucks and then incinerate it in a controlled high
00:32:37.060
temperature chemical incinerator toxic waste disposal that did not happen
00:32:41.480
the the the the ceo said over the weekend and we pulled the clip this morning he he quoted
00:32:49.820
that he knew it was successful when he saw the black plume coming up out of the out of the thing he
00:32:57.180
knew it he knew he told a tv station i think a local tv station in atlanta that he knew it was
00:33:02.920
successful when he saw the black plume the really black heavy smoke he knew he had a success on his
00:33:08.440
controlled burn what say you sir well that's an admission that it's an uncontrolled burn that's an
00:33:13.740
admission of the toxic chemicals going into the atmosphere and what goes up will come down and when
00:33:19.300
it comes down which is which is already beginning to happen look at the the fish die-offs look at the
00:33:23.760
people reporting reporting themselves as sick coughing up blood in some cases uh the chloracne effects the
00:33:30.520
skin effects the tingling sensations uh they're on the skin of some people these are all early signs
00:33:35.480
of what will be a long-term increase very likely very high cancer rates for decades to come we're
00:33:42.880
talking about an ecological catastrophe that is unprecedented in the history of this nation
00:33:50.140
why is it when you have epa and all these other why is no one else coming forward in fact mike dewine
00:33:58.640
his epa said it was fine they actually sent the people back home in a couple of days and in fact
00:34:03.880
he opened this having kept the schools closed for a year because of the ccp virus they sent the kids
00:34:10.580
back to the school in the town on monday five days after the quote-unquote controlled release and the
00:34:17.660
controlled burn uh what say you sir well you know we've seen this before in the old soviet union
00:34:23.620
chernobyl i think 1986 they told people go home there's no radiation because the people couldn't
00:34:29.260
see the radiation well people can't see dioxins especially at femtograms or picogram concentrations
00:34:35.680
nobody knows it's there until the effects kick in and these are not necessarily acute short-term effects
00:34:41.940
so what what we need is testing for dioxins we need honest independent laboratories and analysis
00:34:47.960
and we need to exercise the precaution principle which is not being done here and by the way steve
00:34:52.140
i believe that if this accident had happened under the watch of president donald j trump
00:34:57.380
the media would have called it an ecological disaster i think that they're covering for this
00:35:03.140
politically because it happened under biden that's just my theory but i think that's the way the media
00:35:08.960
operates these days mike uh you had a guest on your show i know you're doing a piece when can people
00:35:16.600
expect that up we'll put it everywhere but when do you anticipate you're going to have your
00:35:19.900
right up on this uh up on your site uh 12 noon tomorrow eastern it'll be up interview an article
00:35:26.540
perfect mike adams how they get to natural news and what is your social media sir
00:35:32.560
naturalnews.com and they can find me uh on on truth social just look for health ranger i'm on i'm on gab
00:35:40.600
i'm on getter truth social telegram and brighttown.social as well which is our platform so
00:35:46.900
pretty pretty easy to find in alt media thank you for having me on mike adams honor always to have
00:35:53.760
you on thank you very much sir appreciate it sir thank you health ranger mike adams over at natural
00:35:59.600
news uh pretty scary we're gonna be doing a lot of this in leading up to president trump's uh
00:36:04.600
visit on wednesday remember um it's a tale of two cities uh biden's in ukraine trump's going to
00:36:12.520
east uh palestine um i want to bring in father provone father you and i talked you know today
00:36:19.240
uh politico had a had a story about uh it was a big it was from mcgraw she's one of the best
00:36:26.580
reporters they've got there alison mcgraw i think her name is she's one of the best reporters and she
00:36:30.000
had this piece it was a lead story this morning that said um trump is going to have a tough time
00:36:36.380
selling two of his biggest accomplishments uh to a broad public and even quite frankly to some of
00:36:45.040
the mega base for the uh for the 2024 primary and then for the general and those two they picked out
00:36:50.740
was the vax and we've been covering that non-stop about the uh and we just had to add down on here
00:36:56.120
about the failure of the uh of the clinical trial uh but the other was roe v wade the judges and all
00:37:02.740
that and one thing you and i discussed a lot is is there a plan going for is there a strategy going
00:37:07.900
for it is it going to be federal level is it going to be state level you've had a time now to gather
00:37:12.480
with some folks and think some things through so give us a uh give us a situation reporter where
00:37:17.200
you guys stand in your working group yes steve uh you know thank you for having me on tonight
00:37:22.000
because i know that our audience around the country is always uh always asking me and asking
00:37:27.060
many other leaders hey are the groups working together uh and the good news is we are we had
00:37:32.280
about 43 national pro-life leaders gathered at our priest for life headquarters over the last few days
00:37:38.540
and we discussed uh what you're just saying now elections we discussed legislation what do we want
00:37:44.460
with the new congress we we we discussed uh how do we educate the candidates when it comes to
00:37:50.160
abortion we discussed president trump and and we talked about a number of other things like the
00:37:54.460
chemical abortions and also these individual state battles uh the bottom line is this that uh
00:38:00.260
first of all candidates starting with the presidential candidates should not be afraid of the
00:38:06.380
abortion issue now i'm afraid sometimes commentary like uh what you just mentioned may make them
00:38:12.620
afraid i mean it should make us vigilant it should make us work harder on strategy but the fact is
00:38:17.740
when a candidate explains why he or she is in favor of protecting children uh from their earliest age
00:38:25.220
that is a winning issue if they express it confidently compassionately knowledgeably and don't run away
00:38:32.580
from the issue you know so many consultants have said over the years oh well just say people say to
00:38:37.960
people that you're pro-life and then pivot to a different uh topic well no because then that gives the
00:38:43.620
other side the chance to redefine what you mean by pro-life and they run away with the argument uh the
00:38:49.860
leaders that gathered together were were very very clear and strong that we're going to recommit
00:38:54.140
ourselves to doing candidate education uh in uh in the coming months and uh uh leading up to 24 uh we're
00:39:02.220
going to commit ourselves also to making sure candidates understand as federal candidates that they need to call
00:39:08.620
for a gestational limit on abortion let's start talking seriously about protecting these unborn
00:39:15.000
children not just regulating the funding of abortion or anything like that that do also need to be done
00:39:21.160
but uh but but but let's get to the core of where so many americans are that yeah these children should
00:39:27.880
actually uh be protected people should be confident the groups are working even more and more together
00:39:34.540
and uh and i was happy to have this gathering just uh the end of last week what is the bifurcation
00:39:42.360
one of the things that continue to hammering on is this issue about at the federal level or is it
00:39:47.040
going to go back to the states i mean we had a lot of people you you were kind enough to visit with us
00:39:51.000
in studio during the march for life and i had a lot of people that we've been hosting people here
00:39:55.820
since i don't know the 14 years the 10 or 11 years 12 years we've been here um and a lot of them said
00:40:01.800
this is my last march for life i'm going to focus on the states when you get the 43 groups in a room
00:40:06.580
what is the basic where's directionally where they're going they're saying let's leave the federal
00:40:11.260
aside let's go to all focus on the states are they saying the lindsey graham thing this thing of a
00:40:16.240
federal mandate maybe it makes sense where do you think that's coming out well steve it was unanimous
00:40:21.680
among these 43 national groups that the battle over abortion going forward here is a national and state
00:40:28.320
interface uh in fact what we discussed was as we have more and more state battles and listen our
00:40:35.360
viewers in ohio need to be aware there's a there's a strong pro-abortion ballot uh initiative coming up
00:40:41.700
it's in the works right now they're aiming for 2023 to have the abortion on demand on the ballot
00:40:47.100
we resolved at this meeting first of all that the national groups need to pour more effort into each
00:40:54.180
one of these state battles the state battles need to be national battles but furthermore everyone in
00:41:00.660
that room agreed that when it comes to legislation we need both working together because after all
00:41:06.440
that's the way our our government is set up the states have a serious responsibility uh but so does
00:41:11.700
the congress so for example if congress let's say in 2025 you know we get that get the senate back and get
00:41:18.160
the white house back and keep the house what we're going to have is the possibility to start
00:41:22.660
protecting these babies on the federal level and then because of the supremacy clause of the
00:41:26.980
constitution a protection will kick in even in the blue states that have put abortion on demand into
00:41:33.520
their constitutions so this when we've been explaining this to people in those blue states
00:41:38.800
they have been very very encouraged these two levels work together the dobbs decision it's important
00:41:44.960
for people to understand the dobbs decision that overturned roe v wade did not absolve uh congress of its
00:41:53.560
responsibility uh to legislate on abortion uh as a matter of fact one of the key briefs in the case was from
00:41:59.780
hundreds of members of congress who were saying let us do our job let us make laws regarding uh the
00:42:05.740
unborn uh so it returned the issue to and this is the wording of the decision the people and their elected
00:42:12.300
representatives that covers all levels of government federal state and even local government where we see cities
00:42:18.880
banning abortions within the city limits so uh everyone in the room was agreed on this we've got to have
00:42:25.240
national and state collaboration and these leaders are more ready than ever to uh to to bring that about
00:42:31.760
uh when you when you talked look at the republican party in in the candidates are run it's a
00:42:39.880
consulting class that the democrats don't quite have and they control the money they control access to
00:42:44.620
the donors all that when you had these articles coming out like alice mcgraw and she wasn't trying
00:42:49.240
to be it it was not a hit piece it was just basically laying out of the facts as the as the
00:42:55.180
conventional wisdom in secular washington looks at what's all about money and power and even where they
00:43:01.660
said yes there's obviously a lot of strengths and activity at the state level but soon as you touch
00:43:07.640
talk about the federal level that could be another third rail uh politics particularly given what
00:43:12.660
happened whether rightly or wrongly it's the way it's been positioned how does the 43 groups get get
00:43:18.600
over that how do you get over that hump when you've only got so many resources so much time so much
00:43:22.920
ability to focus how does that play into what your guy's saying it's got to be both a national and a
00:43:28.300
state well candidate education came up when we started talking about this now some of the groups are
00:43:34.140
already doing it we do it susan b anthony uh pro-life america does it uh a number of the other groups
00:43:40.100
smaller groups but uh that's why we're starting now we had this meeting now because we said right now
00:43:46.860
those that that know that they're going to run in 24 uh we need to start uh meeting with them now and
00:43:53.620
showing them how to win how to speak persuasively on this pro-life issue in a way that's not going to
00:44:01.740
scare people uh you know and one of the things for example that we were discussing is how you know
00:44:06.160
in texas where they have essentially ended abortion and and and brought protection to all these babies
00:44:13.200
from conception they had in the very same bill that made abortions illegal uh over a hundred million
00:44:21.620
dollars for for for moms who are in these uh these uh pregnancy situations that they feel they can't
00:44:27.860
handle that that side of it to show that we're the compassionate ones we are not abandoning women
00:44:34.020
to an impossible situation we are there by their side that's one of many ways that we're going to get
00:44:40.000
these candidates more on board father frank how do people uh get access what are your coordinates
00:44:46.220
the site of priest for life also your uh your personal and all your different uh social media
00:44:51.620
the website is endabortion.us endabortion.us and my social media handle is fr frank pavone
00:45:03.640
the right to life movement a major a major part a foundational element of the maga movement so
00:45:11.500
father frank thank you so much honor to have you on here glad the groups are working together
00:45:16.160
glad 43 got together and they come out with a sense of unanimity so that's fantastic to hear
00:45:21.600
yes steve it is thank you for having me as always thank you sir look forward to having you back
00:45:28.140
let's go out to oklahoma uh kathy connor kathy we got a very special event coming up this uh
00:45:34.680
this saturday tell people about it i couldn't be more excited to come out there and join you folks
00:45:39.320
and i want to make sure we get as many people as possible can attend and know about it what do we got
00:45:44.380
going on yes steve we're excited to have you our great posse leader we uh since our last call we
00:45:53.880
got calls from all over the country including savannah georgia wanting tickets to our 2023
00:45:59.520
lincoln reagan dinner so we are very excited about the response um this year our event is at the
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national uh national uh i've always remembered this name the national cowboy and western heritage museum
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we call it the cowboy hall of fame here and it is a fabulous venue it's steeped in all kinds of
00:46:21.700
heritage of oklahoma and this year the museum is going to give every patriot who comes to our event a free
00:46:30.600
ticket to come back and visit the museum after the event is over so we have that's fantastic
00:46:38.360
yeah it's really it's going to be a fun event we've also had three really nice big patriots give us
00:46:46.240
uh donations of exotic trips that we are going to raffle off in the golden uh ticket raffle this year
00:46:54.720
so we've added a lot of fun things but most importantly you know the county is really focused
00:47:01.980
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00:47:11.820
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wow well we'll make sure we take care of that and once again it's going to start at six o'clock on
00:47:31.640
saturday how do people particularly people listening to the podcast on radio where do they go because
00:47:37.040
we've got the site up there right now and i want to make sure grace and captain ben and get it in all
00:47:40.780
the chats where to where do folks go uh to get tickets and to find out more about the more information
00:47:46.300
about it okay go to our website www okcogop.com that's www okcogop.com and you can get tickets you can
00:48:03.900
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your fourth person is i'm just uh kathy it's so uh great to do this and i'm honored i'm really i'm
00:48:27.120
really excited about seeing the museum i gotta tell you i want to meet the folks out there but this
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museum is something uh i love western history love i love oklahoma love western history uh and so i'm
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coming out there kathy thank you so much we'll push this hard thank you okay it's the it's the
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