Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 239： Twin Evils And The Rise Of Technocracy

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:12.840 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:15.560 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:19.020 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:21.640 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,

00:00:24.220 get total control and total power.

00:00:27.000 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:28.820 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:30.020 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:32.840 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:35.100 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:37.380 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:39.300 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.

00:00:43.180 War Room, Battleground.

00:00:44.980 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:48.100 Former Sarasota County Commissioner Christian Ziegler

00:00:50.660 is the new chair of the Florida Republican Party.

00:00:53.400 The 39-year-old has been vice chair of the Florida Republican Party

00:00:58.400 for the last four years.

00:00:59.740 His wife is a Sarasota County school board member.

00:01:03.160 The Herald Tribune reports Ziegler

00:01:04.620 is also an ardent Trump supporter

00:01:06.460 who attended the rally that preceded the riot

00:01:09.860 at the U.S. Capitol,

00:01:12.340 in which he says he didn't participate.

00:01:15.180 He's pledged to remain neutral

00:01:16.760 if both Trump and DeSantis

00:01:18.280 are in the 2024 Republican primary together.

00:01:21.620 Ziegler is taking over a successful state party,

00:01:24.380 which is coming off a victorious 2022 series

00:01:27.200 of midterm elections.

00:01:29.580 Okay, welcome.

00:01:30.720 It's Tuesday, 21 February, Year of the Lord, 2023,

00:01:33.780 the afternoon and now evening show.

00:01:36.780 I want to bring in Christian Ziegler.

00:01:38.280 First of all, Christian, I don't know what victory

00:01:40.420 is more impressive.

00:01:41.380 I actually think, as tough as yours was,

00:01:42.920 I think your wife was actually a tougher,

00:01:44.960 I think that was a tougher win.

00:01:46.760 But the Zieglers are on a roll.

00:01:49.120 That is a definition of a power couple.

00:01:51.460 That's not people in politics.

00:01:52.760 It's people that win tough elections.

00:01:54.480 I don't remember a couple winning tough elections

00:01:57.480 in a long time, but congratulations.

00:02:00.180 No, I appreciate it, Steve.

00:02:01.580 It's a real honor.

00:02:02.480 I mean, we've got a great organization.

00:02:04.060 We've got a great team here in Florida.

00:02:06.100 We're going to continue to execute

00:02:07.600 and continue to deliver the sunshine state

00:02:09.820 for whoever our Republican nominee is.

00:02:12.020 So I appreciate the congrats.

00:02:15.380 What I want to do, the reason I wanted you on here

00:02:17.740 is we had Christine Karamo on this morning.

00:02:19.880 I mean, obviously, MSNBC is in full meltdown.

00:02:22.560 Two grassroots victories in two of the most important states

00:02:26.340 in the union.

00:02:27.640 What lessons for the grassroots in the rest of the country

00:02:31.440 can you talk about?

00:02:33.140 And particularly how all of Florida,

00:02:34.940 you've kind of not just turned it around.

00:02:37.240 Because when I first started getting involved in politics,

00:02:39.980 it was beyond a jump ball.

00:02:41.720 I mean, it kind of, you know, people thought that,

00:02:43.900 you know, the Democrats had a competitive advantage,

00:02:47.020 had a demographic advantage.

00:02:48.200 And now this is getting to be a bastion,

00:02:51.340 not just of a red state, of a MAGA state.

00:02:53.840 How was that done?

00:02:55.200 And what are the lessons for people in other states?

00:02:59.620 Well, it's pretty simple, Steve.

00:03:01.040 I mean, we listen to the people,

00:03:02.620 many of the people that watch your show.

00:03:04.420 We activate them, we engage them, we hear them.

00:03:08.240 And what that has done is, I'll tell you,

00:03:10.160 I'll give you some stats in Florida.

00:03:12.720 You know, in Florida,

00:03:13.520 when Governor DeSantis took over just four years ago,

00:03:15.860 there were 250,000 more Democrats than Republicans.

00:03:19.440 Today, we have flipped our state

00:03:21.740 for the first time in its history.

00:03:23.080 We have over 400,000 more Republicans than Democrats.

00:03:26.760 That's a 650,000 registration swing

00:03:29.940 in support of Republicans.

00:03:31.700 That's number one.

00:03:32.420 Number two, when you look at election results,

00:03:34.080 for example, Donald Trump in 2016 won by about 1%.

00:03:38.040 We 3X'd his margin in 2020.

00:03:41.060 And then if you look at Governor DeSantis,

00:03:42.640 in 2018, he won by 0.4%.

00:03:45.140 And in 2022, he won by 19.4%.

00:03:49.360 So when you listen to the grassroots,

00:03:51.200 you represent, you work for the grassroots.

00:03:53.420 And then when you have leaders,

00:03:54.260 like in Florida, we're fortunate,

00:03:55.520 we have a strong legislature,

00:03:56.600 and we also have a strong governor

00:03:58.500 leading on these issues.

00:03:59.840 When you mix listening to the grassroots

00:04:01.740 with executing while you're in government

00:04:04.660 and while you're in office,

00:04:05.660 it leads to those incredible results.

00:04:07.520 Every state should do it.

00:04:10.400 The thing is that the grassroots,

00:04:12.200 and you do the policies

00:04:13.540 that the grassroots are going to support,

00:04:16.180 and you're speaking for the people,

00:04:18.040 then it kind of doubles down.

00:04:19.300 It's a virtuous cycle.

00:04:20.440 You get in, you get more recruits,

00:04:21.840 you get people to see things happening.

00:04:23.100 Is that basically the lesson?

00:04:25.440 That's exactly right.

00:04:26.600 That's the lesson.

00:04:27.880 You know, leadership matters,

00:04:28.960 listening to the grassroots,

00:04:30.260 running their agenda matters.

00:04:32.020 But in addition to that,

00:04:33.600 going after these issues, Steve,

00:04:35.220 that a lot of consultants would say,

00:04:37.080 hey, you don't need to go make the base happy.

00:04:39.860 They're going to vote for you anyway.

00:04:41.140 Go after the independents.

00:04:42.240 Go a little soft.

00:04:43.520 Move to the middle when you're in office.

00:04:45.020 That's the conventional wisdom

00:04:47.040 from some of these consultants

00:04:48.340 and staffers and bureaucrats,

00:04:50.320 whereas our governor has taken on

00:04:51.560 these culture war issues, right?

00:04:52.880 I mean, we're talking about

00:04:53.940 protecting girls' sports,

00:04:55.180 getting, you know, boys out of girls' locker rooms,

00:04:59.000 the gender ideology, the CRT in the schools.

00:05:02.620 He's going head on on those issues.

00:05:04.960 And because of that, people appreciate it.

00:05:07.140 I'll tell you, when I was at the polls

00:05:08.260 this last election,

00:05:09.740 you stand outside these polls,

00:05:10.900 I don't care what county you go to,

00:05:12.520 there were a heck of a lot of people walking in,

00:05:14.360 and they told me,

00:05:15.160 I'm here to get the stuff out of our schools,

00:05:17.900 to get the stuff out of our communities.

00:05:20.240 And that's what was driving them to the polls.

00:05:22.540 It wasn't the traditional issues.

00:05:24.140 It was going after these cultural issues

00:05:26.020 because, frankly, our families are under attack,

00:05:28.300 and here in Florida, we're not going to stand for it.

00:05:32.600 Give me, you know,

00:05:33.520 this came up in the controversy of Rana

00:05:36.400 and everything that's going on with the RNC

00:05:38.340 and the voter of the RNC.

00:05:39.400 And one of the things, you know,

00:05:40.460 and I have talked to Rana after this

00:05:42.900 about seeing the event itself out there,

00:05:48.280 I watched the entire thing,

00:05:49.280 and I was incredibly disappointed

00:05:50.920 by the, just by the whole thing,

00:05:53.940 the election committee, this committee,

00:05:55.860 that committee,

00:05:56.540 it didn't sound,

00:05:57.400 it didn't come across to me,

00:05:59.200 it's not professionalism,

00:06:00.180 but the toughness that we need

00:06:01.480 in the fight that's ahead.

00:06:04.080 And it's pretty evident

00:06:05.680 that the state GOP chairman

00:06:07.920 are so critical to going forward.

00:06:10.540 What do you see as your role?

00:06:11.940 Walk us through in your mind.

00:06:13.600 What do you see?

00:06:14.220 Because I, you know,

00:06:15.460 a lot of people come to me and say,

00:06:16.660 Christina Cromwell is fantastic.

00:06:18.240 We love her.

00:06:19.300 But the business community

00:06:20.140 is not going to support her.

00:06:21.040 She's not going to raise any money.

00:06:22.180 And the GOP chair is,

00:06:23.600 their sole responsibility

00:06:25.000 is to raise money from large donors.

00:06:27.760 They got to go ring the cash register

00:06:29.200 and they ought to be doing it 24-7.

00:06:30.680 What do you, what is your attitude of,

00:06:33.780 what do you think the role

00:06:34.560 of a GOP chair is at the state level?

00:06:37.540 Well, look, I think that

00:06:38.800 there's a couple of roles.

00:06:39.940 Obviously, you got to fundraise.

00:06:41.100 We got to make sure our counties

00:06:42.140 have the resources,

00:06:43.780 the training to be successful

00:06:46.160 and really hit the ground running.

00:06:48.120 We have to support

00:06:49.200 our elected officials as well.

00:06:50.640 I mean, when they're doing a good job,

00:06:51.780 we need to make sure people know about it.

00:06:53.200 We're all a team here.

00:06:54.320 We got to amplify what they're doing

00:06:55.920 when it's following

00:06:56.680 what the grassroots want.

00:06:58.560 But really, at the end of the day,

00:06:59.820 I think my role is

00:07:01.020 I want to listen to the grassroots.

00:07:03.000 I want to work for them.

00:07:04.380 I want to aggressively deliver for them.

00:07:06.600 I should be the most rabid conservative

00:07:09.320 in the room

00:07:10.600 and every time I walk in the room.

00:07:12.640 That's how I view myself.

00:07:14.340 That's how I want to execute.

00:07:16.120 I think when you show bold leadership,

00:07:18.140 we've seen our governor do it,

00:07:19.440 people are going to buy in.

00:07:21.360 And you'll get the money.

00:07:22.620 You'll get the resources.

00:07:23.900 But you definitely have to execute.

00:07:25.440 So we have a legitimate operation.

00:07:27.380 We're going to be doing

00:07:28.220 the get out the vote.

00:07:29.060 We're going to be doing

00:07:29.740 the voter registration.

00:07:30.860 We're going to continue that.

00:07:32.260 But as a leader,

00:07:33.320 I do have to go raise the money,

00:07:35.420 get our counties supported,

00:07:37.240 make sure they have the resources,

00:07:39.000 execute for our elected officials

00:07:40.600 when they're doing a good job.

00:07:42.180 But I'm going to be traveling

00:07:43.160 in the state.

00:07:43.620 You're going to see me.

00:07:44.240 I mean, I don't really like

00:07:45.240 cocktail receptions.

00:07:46.840 I mean, I'll go to them

00:07:47.820 if I need to go collect some checks.

00:07:49.660 But outside of that,

00:07:50.380 I want to be on the ground,

00:07:51.340 knocking on the doors,

00:07:52.260 on the corners,

00:07:52.980 with the grassroots.

00:07:54.020 That's just in my blood.

00:07:55.160 And I think it's important

00:07:56.420 to show when you lead

00:07:57.480 from the ground up,

00:07:58.580 people will follow.

00:07:59.940 And there are a lot of people

00:08:00.980 that watch this show

00:08:01.980 that have joined

00:08:02.900 our local county parties

00:08:04.100 that have been told

00:08:04.820 to go join.

00:08:05.700 And I want to represent them

00:08:06.960 and help them understand

00:08:08.380 what the party does

00:08:09.220 and help them be successful.

00:08:10.420 That's what I'm focused on.

00:08:13.280 I want to go back.

00:08:14.260 By the way,

00:08:14.580 we want to have you back

00:08:15.360 on a drill down more of this,

00:08:16.560 particularly as a state

00:08:17.720 like Florida

00:08:18.380 and the GOP

00:08:19.300 being a laboratory for ideas,

00:08:21.220 ideas that are

00:08:21.980 cutting edge ideas,

00:08:22.860 both on economics

00:08:23.900 and governance.

00:08:25.180 But I want to go back

00:08:26.160 and it's two theories here.

00:08:28.140 You mentioned

00:08:28.780 the voter registration,

00:08:30.740 the huge swing in that.

00:08:31.640 And people should know

00:08:32.220 voter registration

00:08:32.920 is a grinded out,

00:08:34.620 unsexy business.

00:08:35.900 You also mentioned

00:08:36.580 Get Out the Vote,

00:08:37.360 which is another

00:08:37.920 grinded out, unsexy.

00:08:39.660 That's why it's perfect

00:08:40.320 for the grassroots, right?

00:08:41.280 Because the grassroots

00:08:41.840 are grinders

00:08:42.460 and they're not looking

00:08:43.100 for glory.

00:08:43.780 They're looking for victories

00:08:44.680 and to save the country.

00:08:46.880 You know,

00:08:47.100 we're very close

00:08:47.740 to Mike Lindell, obviously,

00:08:49.120 and everybody's

00:08:49.780 that number one focus

00:08:51.340 is the election issues.

00:08:52.420 Kerry Lake,

00:08:53.020 Mike Lindell,

00:08:54.060 the election,

00:08:54.940 they would actually say

00:08:56.000 the election crimes division.

00:08:58.020 As you see it going forward,

00:08:59.580 a lot of people said,

00:09:00.460 hey, we've missed

00:09:01.120 the plot here

00:09:01.940 and the plot's got to be,

00:09:02.980 we got to be in the

00:09:03.500 ballot harvesting business,

00:09:04.500 particularly people

00:09:05.060 in Pennsylvania

00:09:05.820 and in Michigan

00:09:06.640 and Nevada

00:09:07.280 where we had

00:09:07.740 some of these losses.

00:09:09.060 Others are saying,

00:09:09.720 no,

00:09:10.460 what we're doing

00:09:11.240 and getting out the vote

00:09:12.060 is the way to do it.

00:09:13.420 Florida looks like

00:09:14.280 it did it the old-fashioned way.

00:09:15.560 Am I incorrect?

00:09:16.860 And you guys,

00:09:18.060 talk to me about

00:09:18.640 your election

00:09:19.180 and election fraud issues,

00:09:20.280 what you guys have done there.

00:09:21.160 And do you support

00:09:22.060 this whole

00:09:23.120 we got to be like Democrats

00:09:25.000 and get into the ballot,

00:09:26.040 we got to be in the

00:09:26.660 ballot generation business

00:09:27.860 or do you believe

00:09:28.860 we can win the old-fashioned way

00:09:30.020 where some people say,

00:09:31.020 Steve,

00:09:31.680 that's just incredibly naive

00:09:32.740 and you're not going

00:09:33.280 to win Pennsylvania,

00:09:33.940 you're not going

00:09:34.540 to win Michigan,

00:09:35.300 you're not going

00:09:35.660 to win Nevada

00:09:36.140 if you go down that route.

00:09:37.260 Christian Ziegler.

00:09:37.940 Well,

00:09:39.460 a couple things,

00:09:40.160 Steve.

00:09:40.520 It's interesting.

00:09:41.660 I went up to Georgia,

00:09:43.140 I recruited about 600,

00:09:44.380 almost 700 people

00:09:45.440 to go knock on doors

00:09:47.220 in Georgia

00:09:47.860 in 2021,

00:09:49.700 actually,

00:09:50.100 when Loeffler

00:09:50.720 and Purdue

00:09:51.520 were on the ballot.

00:09:52.660 And I was actually,

00:09:53.380 we were targeting

00:09:54.000 four of four Republicans

00:09:55.340 and when we would

00:09:55.980 knock on those doors,

00:09:57.380 probably 20% of them

00:09:58.500 would say,

00:09:59.480 you know,

00:09:59.700 I'm not going to vote,

00:10:00.540 what's the point,

00:10:01.280 my vote's not going to count,

00:10:02.560 you know,

00:10:02.720 we had November

00:10:03.420 and they haven't done

00:10:04.180 anything since.

00:10:05.280 And that was really

00:10:05.860 eye-opening to me.

00:10:06.700 And what I've realized

00:10:07.520 is in Florida,

00:10:08.340 we did it different.

00:10:09.520 Our elected officials

00:10:10.380 actually took proactive action

00:10:12.180 to address election integrity.

00:10:14.540 And they showed

00:10:15.520 that they were listening

00:10:16.320 to the grassroots,

00:10:17.200 they were listening

00:10:17.740 to the concerns

00:10:18.540 and they addressed issues,

00:10:21.080 ballot harvesting,

00:10:22.120 some of the drop boxes,

00:10:23.520 and they went after it.

00:10:25.000 And what happened is,

00:10:25.840 is that increased confidence

00:10:27.080 in voting in Florida.

00:10:28.520 And I think we saw the results

00:10:30.260 because of that.

00:10:31.060 Now, with that said,

00:10:32.800 I'm a big fan of,

00:10:34.060 I mean,

00:10:34.220 I think our elected officials

00:10:35.240 have done a great job so far.

00:10:37.500 particularly addressing

00:10:39.200 ballot harvesting in Florida.

00:10:41.020 But with vote by mail,

00:10:42.220 we still have vote by mail

00:10:43.340 that's out there.

00:10:44.740 Look, me personally,

00:10:45.900 I'm a fan of,

00:10:47.120 you know,

00:10:47.380 single day voting in person.

00:10:49.420 But until you have the law

00:10:51.360 set that up for everyone,

00:10:53.260 it's up to us

00:10:54.240 to take advantage

00:10:55.040 of whatever the rules

00:10:56.000 are in place,

00:10:57.220 whatever we can legally do

00:10:58.720 to make sure

00:10:59.780 that we're executing

00:11:00.620 and winning.

00:11:01.820 And in Florida,

00:11:02.540 for example,

00:11:03.000 if you wait

00:11:03.460 to just one day

00:11:04.480 and while the Democrats

00:11:05.460 are banking votes,

00:11:06.820 you could have

00:11:07.220 a hurricane come in,

00:11:08.380 you could have

00:11:08.640 a thunderstorm

00:11:09.200 that drops turnout,

00:11:10.480 and then you become

00:11:11.300 reliant on people

00:11:12.180 to turn out that one day,

00:11:13.180 that's very difficult

00:11:13.960 if it's not an equal

00:11:15.340 playing field.

00:11:16.040 So I think when,

00:11:16.780 as ballots go out,

00:11:18.080 I want to aggressively

00:11:19.240 attack this.

00:11:20.180 We need to get votes

00:11:20.920 in the bank

00:11:21.440 and we need to do it early.

00:11:23.160 We need to get those votes

00:11:24.060 coming in.

00:11:24.620 And again,

00:11:24.940 it's not my preference,

00:11:25.920 but if that's the rules,

00:11:27.280 we need to take advantage

00:11:28.200 of the rules for our side.

00:11:29.940 And again,

00:11:30.540 legally do whatever we can

00:11:31.700 to bank those votes

00:11:32.700 and make sure

00:11:33.640 that we're getting

00:11:34.060 those votes in

00:11:34.640 because the other side

00:11:35.460 of it is,

00:11:36.140 it's a sales funnel, Steve.

00:11:37.860 When you have ballots go out,

00:11:39.940 you want to get them

00:11:40.460 in as quick as you can

00:11:41.360 because that allows you

00:11:43.260 to suppress people

00:11:44.120 and move them off

00:11:44.960 your voting target list.

00:11:46.740 And you can spend,

00:11:47.620 you can send two,

00:11:48.880 three,

00:11:49.300 four,

00:11:49.640 five mailers

00:11:50.400 instead of just one

00:11:51.520 if you have a smaller

00:11:52.620 audience to target.

00:11:53.700 So strategically,

00:11:54.940 the Democrats

00:11:55.480 are really crushing us

00:11:56.540 by focusing on the early vote.

00:11:59.020 Again,

00:11:59.240 I don't like it,

00:11:59.980 but while it's in law,

00:12:00.980 we got to take advantage

00:12:01.800 of it and execute.

00:12:02.700 So Christian,

00:12:05.500 how do people follow you?

00:12:06.920 Because obviously

00:12:07.520 the juggling act

00:12:08.440 you're going to have

00:12:09.340 in the coming year

00:12:10.660 between two guys,

00:12:11.880 I know you think

00:12:12.540 very highly of President Trump.

00:12:13.900 You've been there for us

00:12:14.720 a long time.

00:12:15.740 Also,

00:12:16.100 Governor DeSantis

00:12:16.760 doing a great job down there.

00:12:18.160 You've got probably,

00:12:19.040 I don't envy you,

00:12:20.040 let's say that,

00:12:20.740 of the juggling act.

00:12:22.040 How can people,

00:12:22.700 how can people follow you?

00:12:24.920 Look,

00:12:25.300 just go to Florida.GOP,

00:12:27.180 follow our party,

00:12:28.020 get involved,

00:12:28.620 join your county party,

00:12:29.740 reach out to me.

00:12:30.960 I'm on Twitter as well

00:12:32.180 if you just go to

00:12:32.860 Chris M. Ziegler,

00:12:34.420 which is Z-I-E-G-L-E-R,

00:12:36.420 please reach out,

00:12:37.340 but please get involved.

00:12:38.200 We need every patriot

00:12:39.160 to step up.

00:12:40.360 Our country's under attack,

00:12:41.860 our local community's

00:12:43.440 under attack,

00:12:44.160 and frankly,

00:12:44.860 our children are now

00:12:45.780 under attack by the left,

00:12:47.060 and all of us

00:12:47.760 have to step up.

00:12:48.460 We have to rise up.

00:12:49.140 If you can't fight

00:12:49.660 for the kids,

00:12:50.620 you can't fight

00:12:51.160 for anything, really,

00:12:52.000 and we've got to step up,

00:12:53.140 and that should motivate you

00:12:54.100 like crazy.

00:12:54.660 But Steve,

00:12:55.040 I appreciate your viewers,

00:12:56.420 and I appreciate everything

00:12:57.440 you do.

00:12:57.820 You do a great job

00:12:58.520 of this show

00:12:58.940 getting the message out,

00:12:59.940 and it's a vital piece

00:13:01.120 of this process.

00:13:03.580 Well,

00:13:04.080 we have the easiest job,

00:13:05.560 and you know,

00:13:05.860 they're power couples,

00:13:06.800 but you and the missus

00:13:08.440 are the fight club couple

00:13:09.640 because two incredibly

00:13:11.640 tough races,

00:13:12.900 and congratulations,

00:13:13.980 and obviously,

00:13:14.660 you guys will fight on,

00:13:15.460 so thank you for joining us.

00:13:17.620 Appreciate it, Steve.

00:13:18.460 Have a great rest of your day.

00:13:20.900 Great.

00:13:21.640 Chris Ziegler,

00:13:22.600 one of the real fighters,

00:13:23.900 the chairman of the GOP.

00:13:26.000 I think when people say,

00:13:27.380 hey, it's all,

00:13:27.960 listen,

00:13:28.380 you've had two massive wins

00:13:30.160 over the last couple of days.

00:13:32.040 You had Ziegler in Florida,

00:13:34.420 grassroots,

00:13:35.060 and you had Christine Caramo.

00:13:37.760 Also, Politico,

00:13:38.840 will hopefully get in

00:13:39.700 to have time to do this tomorrow.

00:13:41.120 I mean,

00:13:41.280 they had an incredible article

00:13:42.560 about Western Michigan,

00:13:45.540 Impact Ottawa,

00:13:47.400 which is a group out there

00:13:48.860 that basically replaced

00:13:49.740 all the rhinos

00:13:50.420 and the county commission,

00:13:51.620 the school board commission,

00:13:52.920 and of course,

00:13:53.600 Politico is a melting

00:13:54.400 because they say,

00:13:54.940 hey,

00:13:55.100 this is the rise

00:13:55.700 of Christian nationalism

00:13:56.580 and if you look

00:13:57.620 at what these people stand for,

00:13:58.580 it's essentially

00:13:59.000 just common sense

00:13:59.980 and American values.

00:14:02.480 Okay,

00:14:02.940 really honored

00:14:04.120 with everything going on today

00:14:05.420 and today's historic day

00:14:06.720 about what happened

00:14:09.300 in Moscow

00:14:09.760 and then what happened

00:14:10.580 in Kiev

00:14:11.060 and what happened

00:14:11.620 in Poland.

00:14:12.680 As we continue to say,

00:14:14.340 we are in the early years now,

00:14:16.440 it's pretty official

00:14:17.240 of the Third World War.

00:14:19.260 I'm very honored

00:14:20.000 to have Patrick Wood

00:14:21.120 and Joe Allen

00:14:21.620 going to join me.

00:14:22.240 Patrick,

00:14:22.600 I will tell you,

00:14:24.700 I read it in one sitting,

00:14:25.900 the new book,

00:14:26.840 Evil Twins

00:14:27.660 of Technocracy

00:14:28.820 and Transhumanism.

00:14:31.140 It's absolutely incredible.

00:14:32.640 I mean,

00:14:32.860 I met with you,

00:14:34.700 I think it was during

00:14:35.400 Turning Point

00:14:36.320 back in,

00:14:37.680 I don't know,

00:14:37.980 it was the summer

00:14:38.540 or spring of last year

00:14:39.700 and you said

00:14:40.080 you were finishing this

00:14:41.620 and putting it together

00:14:42.200 to get it to the publisher.

00:14:43.080 But it's absolutely incredible,

00:14:46.500 particularly the fact

00:14:47.340 of where everything's gone

00:14:48.420 and then with CHET,

00:14:49.720 GPT being released

00:14:51.140 at Davos

00:14:51.800 just basically a month ago

00:14:53.500 and everything that's changed.

00:14:55.300 Walk us through,

00:14:56.460 first off,

00:14:57.060 I want you to go through

00:14:58.140 your theory of the case.

00:15:00.360 Why is technocracy

00:15:01.840 and transhumanism,

00:15:02.900 which you would,

00:15:03.740 a lot of people out there think,

00:15:05.560 that's going to lead us

00:15:06.680 to the sunlit meadows,

00:15:09.000 right?

00:15:09.660 That this is going to lead us

00:15:11.280 to nirvana

00:15:11.860 and the greatest

00:15:12.980 abundancy

00:15:14.000 and happiness

00:15:14.840 that mankind's

00:15:16.300 ever created.

00:15:17.340 Yet,

00:15:17.880 you've got a,

00:15:18.800 and your cover design

00:15:19.680 or whoever did it

00:15:20.300 is quite dramatic,

00:15:22.300 right?

00:15:22.540 It's a very dramatic cover,

00:15:24.260 but you call them

00:15:24.860 the evil twins

00:15:25.720 of technocracy

00:15:26.780 and transhumanism.

00:15:27.720 Walk us through

00:15:28.280 your theory of the case.

00:15:30.500 They really are.

00:15:31.360 The idea

00:15:32.000 that brought me

00:15:33.820 to this point

00:15:34.400 was that

00:15:35.000 these two make

00:15:36.860 very strange bedfellows,

00:15:38.200 I have to say.

00:15:39.280 20,

00:15:39.700 30 years ago,

00:15:40.620 they were kind of

00:15:41.620 separate things.

00:15:42.560 Technocracy's been

00:15:43.240 moving forward

00:15:43.980 since the 1930s,

00:15:45.180 but transhumanism

00:15:46.660 was really nothing.

00:15:47.520 It was just kind of

00:15:48.060 an esoteric philosophy,

00:15:50.080 a worldview,

00:15:50.580 and they had no hope

00:15:52.500 of executing

00:15:53.480 their plans.

00:15:54.780 But when technology

00:15:56.060 advanced to the point,

00:15:57.220 I think probably

00:15:57.820 around the year 2000,

00:15:59.520 all of a sudden

00:16:00.360 they grabbed hold

00:16:01.440 of the technological revolution

00:16:03.700 and they said,

00:16:05.060 that can be

00:16:05.840 our deliverance

00:16:06.800 to immortality,

00:16:09.760 to omniscience,

00:16:10.980 and doing all these things

00:16:12.620 to escape death.

00:16:14.100 This sounds kind of crazy,

00:16:15.840 but the World Economic Forum

00:16:17.860 has adopted

00:16:18.600 both technocracy

00:16:20.180 as well as

00:16:21.360 transhumanism

00:16:22.540 in their official

00:16:23.940 Great Reset mantra.

00:16:27.260 The Great Reset,

00:16:28.640 first off,

00:16:29.260 is to transform society,

00:16:31.740 which is transforming it

00:16:33.180 from free market economics

00:16:34.480 into the system

00:16:35.220 of technocracy

00:16:36.400 or sustainable development

00:16:37.700 where everything

00:16:38.740 is controlled by them.

00:16:40.740 The transhuman movement

00:16:42.140 chooses to focus

00:16:44.080 on the people

00:16:44.800 to transform the people

00:16:46.100 who are going to live

00:16:47.140 in that technocratic society.

00:16:49.680 In a sense,

00:16:50.540 this makes twist,

00:16:51.540 well,

00:16:51.820 this makes twisted sense,

00:16:53.220 sort of.

00:16:54.380 If you're going to make

00:16:55.440 a brand new world system

00:16:56.800 that we've never seen

00:16:58.200 before in history,

00:16:59.360 that's what the Great Reset

00:17:00.500 was about first,

00:17:01.420 then why would you want

00:17:03.060 to put old humans

00:17:04.220 into it?

00:17:05.640 You see,

00:17:06.580 in their mind,

00:17:08.460 the old humanity

00:17:09.600 wrecked the world.

00:17:11.540 They're creating

00:17:12.280 a new world,

00:17:13.160 so in their minds now,

00:17:14.100 they need to have

00:17:14.940 a new humanity

00:17:17.260 to move in

00:17:18.120 and live in that new world.

00:17:20.000 So we have technocracy

00:17:21.780 and transhumanism now

00:17:23.220 as fast allies.

00:17:25.540 They're using

00:17:26.280 the same technological base

00:17:28.000 to achieve

00:17:28.560 their respective goals,

00:17:29.860 but both of them

00:17:31.960 are based on

00:17:32.780 what I consider

00:17:33.880 an evil religious proposition

00:17:35.440 called scientism,

00:17:36.660 which essentially

00:17:37.320 removes God

00:17:38.180 from the equation

00:17:38.940 and worships science,

00:17:40.920 the worship of science.

00:17:42.240 We see it almost

00:17:43.220 everywhere you look today

00:17:44.440 that people have

00:17:45.780 discarded all other truth

00:17:47.200 and if science

00:17:47.920 doesn't say it,

00:17:49.320 they don't believe it.

00:17:50.360 walk me through,

00:17:56.080 I want to go back

00:17:56.760 to 2000.

00:17:57.520 You said here

00:17:58.760 you started to see

00:17:59.620 the merger of it

00:18:00.500 because either

00:18:02.040 the leadership

00:18:02.660 or the wealthy

00:18:03.460 understood that

00:18:05.060 this may be,

00:18:06.080 that the technocracy

00:18:07.240 and transhumanism

00:18:08.080 combined,

00:18:09.300 particularly transhumanism,

00:18:10.460 led to eternal life

00:18:11.620 and that they might

00:18:12.300 have eternal life

00:18:13.240 so that homo sapien

00:18:14.800 1.0

00:18:16.540 gets to be a burden,

00:18:18.280 not something

00:18:18.780 that actually generates

00:18:19.720 value or wealth

00:18:20.900 or helps you

00:18:21.820 but it's actually

00:18:22.400 something that

00:18:23.100 you have to,

00:18:24.040 in going beyond,

00:18:25.580 you definitely

00:18:26.120 want to leave it behind.

00:18:27.220 Walk me through that.

00:18:28.800 Well, exactly.

00:18:30.280 You know,

00:18:32.340 the drive to escape death

00:18:34.880 goes all the way back

00:18:36.040 to the Garden of Eden

00:18:37.000 with the temptation

00:18:38.600 in Genesis 3

00:18:39.780 of, you know,

00:18:40.700 when the devil

00:18:41.360 tempted Adam and Eve.

00:18:43.280 He said,

00:18:43.780 surely you will not die

00:18:44.840 and he promised

00:18:46.500 hidden knowledge as well

00:18:47.900 that went along with that

00:18:48.740 but surely you won't die.

00:18:50.560 This has been

00:18:51.540 a dream of mankind

00:18:53.280 that decided to reject God anyway.

00:18:55.420 This has been a dream

00:18:56.260 of men and women

00:18:57.360 to escape death ultimately

00:18:59.020 and this is what

00:18:59.620 this is all about.

00:19:01.280 It's been around for ages.

00:19:03.060 It's just they haven't had

00:19:04.000 the means to do it.

00:19:05.060 It's just been

00:19:05.500 a mental head trip

00:19:06.720 but they finally got traction

00:19:09.140 when science advanced

00:19:10.540 to the point

00:19:11.180 where they saw,

00:19:12.060 for instance,

00:19:12.460 genetic engineering

00:19:13.320 became a really big thing

00:19:14.720 with CRISPR technology.

00:19:15.940 when they saw the possibility

00:19:17.960 to be able to hack

00:19:19.000 the human genome

00:19:20.000 and to literally

00:19:21.560 to hack humans

00:19:22.540 as this, you know,

00:19:23.200 the software of life

00:19:24.220 to change humans,

00:19:25.380 change humanity,

00:19:26.140 they went wild with that

00:19:27.880 and they just jumped on it

00:19:29.100 like, you know,

00:19:29.820 like fleas on a dog

00:19:30.880 so to speak

00:19:31.540 and they've been after it

00:19:33.420 ever since

00:19:33.960 and we see it

00:19:34.900 all around the world.

00:19:36.100 It's not just in America.

00:19:37.180 It's not an American phenomena.

00:19:38.740 It's everywhere

00:19:39.460 on the planet right now.

00:19:41.220 There are scientists

00:19:42.100 and engineers,

00:19:42.900 especially scientists,

00:19:43.780 chasing after this dream

00:19:45.440 that somehow

00:19:46.600 they're going to escape death

00:19:48.140 in the end.

00:19:48.600 If they can just get

00:19:49.700 that next little,

00:19:51.360 you know,

00:19:51.780 bit of technological discovery down,

00:19:54.700 they will finally make it.

00:19:56.300 I don't believe they will.

00:19:57.640 I think flat out

00:19:58.500 they're going to fail

00:19:59.180 in the end.

00:20:00.120 The biggest problem

00:20:00.900 we have now

00:20:01.500 is how much of humanity

00:20:02.580 are they going to screw up

00:20:03.740 on the, you know,

00:20:04.460 on the way to finding out

00:20:05.800 they're going to fail.

00:20:06.500 When you,

00:20:10.340 the book is

00:20:12.620 The Evil Twins,

00:20:13.660 Technocracy and Transhumanism.

00:20:15.960 The one thing

00:20:16.680 you make the case for,

00:20:17.860 and I want to,

00:20:18.680 if you can take a second

00:20:19.360 walk the audience through,

00:20:20.600 you're saying that

00:20:21.300 these two things

00:20:21.980 and particularly

00:20:22.440 the convergence of these,

00:20:23.840 obviously transhumanism

00:20:25.080 is also a convergence

00:20:26.080 of five or six technologies.

00:20:28.880 Technocracy is actually

00:20:29.780 a way to look

00:20:31.320 at the application of that.

00:20:32.880 You talk about

00:20:33.620 it's going to lead

00:20:34.460 to the most radical

00:20:35.580 transformation

00:20:36.440 in the basic structures

00:20:38.600 and processes

00:20:39.380 of economics

00:20:40.860 and governance.

00:20:42.160 The most radical

00:20:43.280 that's happened really

00:20:44.080 since we've had

00:20:44.700 human civilization.

00:20:46.060 And this is going to happen

00:20:47.520 quite rapidly

00:20:48.200 and you say

00:20:49.100 it's already started

00:20:50.760 but this is not something

00:20:51.760 that's going to take decades.

00:20:52.840 This will be done

00:20:53.400 within this decade.

00:20:55.100 Walk us through that.

00:20:55.980 What do you mean by that?

00:20:57.260 You can go back

00:20:58.200 to the 1930s

00:20:59.300 to see the original

00:21:00.580 drive of technocracy

00:21:02.200 was to remove

00:21:02.920 the political layer

00:21:03.760 from society altogether.

00:21:05.580 They felt that they had

00:21:06.840 the science down

00:21:07.980 so good

00:21:08.720 and that there's no need

00:21:09.900 to discuss anything.

00:21:10.820 What do you need

00:21:11.240 a body politic for?

00:21:13.140 We see this

00:21:14.280 even today

00:21:15.340 this antipathy

00:21:16.480 towards political systems.

00:21:18.460 The technocrat core

00:21:19.920 of the world

00:21:20.500 like at the World Economic Forum

00:21:21.880 they would prefer

00:21:23.160 to run things

00:21:24.420 straight from the top down

00:21:26.040 just like Amazon

00:21:26.820 runs its company

00:21:27.740 for instance.

00:21:28.600 They would like

00:21:29.160 to run the world

00:21:30.080 by their scientific algorithms

00:21:31.580 and just basically

00:21:32.460 get out

00:21:32.940 get the political system

00:21:34.560 out of the way.

00:21:37.100 If you go back

00:21:38.060 and think about

00:21:38.900 the book

00:21:39.300 Brave New World

00:21:40.180 that was written

00:21:40.640 by Aldous Huxley

00:21:41.520 in 1932

00:21:42.500 looking straight

00:21:43.480 into technocracy

00:21:44.280 by the way

00:21:44.880 that's when it was

00:21:45.820 at Columbia University

00:21:46.660 in 1932

00:21:47.500 you see there was

00:21:49.580 no political system

00:21:50.580 in Brave New World.

00:21:51.700 It was a scientific

00:21:52.880 dictatorship

00:21:53.560 where some guy

00:21:54.580 at the top

00:21:55.120 the alpha plus

00:21:56.120 made all the decisions

00:21:57.160 for what would happen

00:21:58.360 in society

00:21:58.980 and there was

00:22:00.140 no death

00:22:03.200 except the death

00:22:04.080 that was prescribed

00:22:04.860 when you reached

00:22:05.660 a certain age

00:22:06.380 you were done away with

00:22:07.380 but all the babies

00:22:09.380 were generated

00:22:10.080 in test tubes

00:22:11.240 and they were

00:22:11.780 genetically engineered

00:22:12.800 and they were conditioned

00:22:13.780 and so on

00:22:14.360 to fulfill

00:22:15.340 their workplaces

00:22:16.400 and life.

00:22:17.840 This is kind of

00:22:18.700 what we're seeing

00:22:19.980 working out today

00:22:21.000 in the world

00:22:21.580 where technology

00:22:23.800 is designed

00:22:25.100 to run everything

00:22:26.120 without any

00:22:27.100 political discussion

00:22:28.020 whatsoever.

00:22:29.360 When our politicians

00:22:30.400 if they ever do

00:22:31.780 wake up to this

00:22:32.560 when they see

00:22:33.380 the enemy

00:22:34.140 the true enemy

00:22:35.420 right now

00:22:35.900 that's trying

00:22:36.400 to dislodge them

00:22:37.660 and debase them

00:22:39.260 are these technocrats

00:22:40.740 they may take action

00:22:42.660 and save us

00:22:43.460 you know

00:22:43.880 this is what

00:22:44.340 the political system

00:22:45.540 is for

00:22:46.080 to save us

00:22:47.200 from crazy movements

00:22:48.260 like this

00:22:48.960 from taking over

00:22:50.180 the world

00:22:50.620 and kicking our

00:22:51.360 political institutions

00:22:52.340 out in the

00:22:53.080 dustbin of history.

00:22:57.100 Is this one example

00:22:57.960 of this

00:22:58.340 and correct me

00:22:59.600 if I'm wrong

00:23:00.180 was this when Fauci

00:23:01.640 and we know

00:23:02.040 about the Wuhan lab

00:23:02.900 but he got so upset

00:23:03.900 about anybody

00:23:05.060 even looking at

00:23:05.800 the connections

00:23:06.280 he had to the Wuhan lab

00:23:07.600 and didn't want

00:23:08.020 any investigations

00:23:08.860 I was telling people

00:23:10.520 on the show

00:23:11.160 at the time

00:23:11.580 it was like

00:23:12.480 that was a temple

00:23:13.180 that was a sacred space

00:23:14.740 that you could not

00:23:16.160 that the barbarian

00:23:17.340 either the Rand Paul

00:23:18.840 politicians

00:23:19.500 or the news media

00:23:20.920 or anybody

00:23:21.340 that was not

00:23:22.100 was not a

00:23:23.780 was not not

00:23:24.720 in the priesthood

00:23:25.540 that temple

00:23:26.660 was for the priesthood

00:23:27.540 regardless of whether

00:23:28.760 they were part

00:23:29.540 of the Chinese Communist Party

00:23:30.500 the PLA

00:23:31.200 they were scientists

00:23:32.480 he was scientists

00:23:33.440 and the unwashed

00:23:35.200 could not do it

00:23:36.020 is that

00:23:36.280 is that what you're

00:23:37.060 talking about

00:23:37.620 is that you have

00:23:38.400 this global system

00:23:39.440 of basically Davos man

00:23:41.400 these technocrats

00:23:42.340 that think they can run

00:23:43.060 both the economy

00:23:43.840 and society like that

00:23:45.920 that's exactly right

00:23:47.420 and we can see

00:23:48.600 how technocrats

00:23:49.480 operate across societies

00:23:51.060 for instance

00:23:51.560 you have people

00:23:52.680 like Elon Musk

00:23:53.540 Jeff Bezos

00:23:54.220 and you know

00:23:54.920 other people

00:23:55.560 of that nature

00:23:56.580 I consider them

00:23:57.800 all to be technocrats

00:23:58.700 you see

00:23:59.100 they operate

00:24:00.360 very easily

00:24:01.060 with people in China

00:24:02.100 and you find

00:24:03.840 I use the old

00:24:04.980 the old adage

00:24:06.000 birds of a feather

00:24:06.840 flock together

00:24:07.640 technocrats recognize

00:24:09.420 each other

00:24:10.040 across societies

00:24:11.020 and they

00:24:11.520 they feel like

00:24:12.500 what what

00:24:13.080 what's mine is mine

00:24:14.120 what yours is mine

00:24:14.960 and they trade stuff

00:24:15.720 around all the time

00:24:16.700 they have no

00:24:17.800 you know

00:24:18.460 like China's never

00:24:19.240 had any

00:24:19.820 reservations

00:24:21.540 about stealing

00:24:22.320 our technology

00:24:23.060 most of those

00:24:24.260 people that stole

00:24:25.120 our technology

00:24:25.840 just believe

00:24:26.860 they had a right

00:24:27.560 to it

00:24:27.960 it's not that

00:24:28.760 they thought

00:24:29.140 they were doing

00:24:29.660 anything wrong

00:24:30.420 as technocrats

00:24:31.680 if some scientific

00:24:33.300 discovery exists

00:24:34.280 out there

00:24:34.760 they think

00:24:35.600 they're entitled

00:24:36.200 to have it

00:24:36.760 and you see

00:24:38.280 these people

00:24:38.880 operating across

00:24:40.060 across the boundaries

00:24:41.640 the national boundaries

00:24:42.660 and you shake

00:24:43.860 your head at it

00:24:44.500 wondering why

00:24:45.200 how can they do that

00:24:46.160 they live in America

00:24:46.960 but they're

00:24:47.440 they're lifting up China

00:24:48.480 well technocrats

00:24:51.120 don't care

00:24:51.900 what part of the world

00:24:53.100 you're in

00:24:53.540 they're working together

00:24:54.640 for an entirely

00:24:56.040 different otherworldly

00:24:57.540 system to be put in place

00:24:59.140 than what we have today

00:25:00.320 the order of things

00:25:01.020 that we have today

00:25:01.780 and unfortunately

00:25:02.960 we've got so many

00:25:04.160 major shocks

00:25:05.220 that could hit us

00:25:06.020 in the

00:25:06.720 say the next

00:25:07.380 two to three years

00:25:08.140 things you know

00:25:08.880 like the war

00:25:09.660 expanding war

00:25:10.480 in Ukraine

00:25:10.860 we have so many

00:25:12.860 threats of shock

00:25:14.020 values

00:25:14.780 in front of us here

00:25:16.320 any major shock

00:25:18.160 could

00:25:18.760 to the world

00:25:19.600 could set up a situation

00:25:21.020 where these technocrats

00:25:22.200 simply walk in

00:25:23.460 and take over

00:25:24.200 if they ever do

00:25:26.000 the rest of the world

00:25:27.680 will not see

00:25:28.640 anything like

00:25:30.040 we have today

00:25:30.860 like a constitutional republic

00:25:32.240 or even democracy

00:25:33.200 for that matter

00:25:33.820 it'll be scientific

00:25:35.160 dictatorship

00:25:35.760 from the top down

00:25:36.880 where everything is run

00:25:38.140 right now

00:25:38.920 like it is in China

00:25:39.700 you have no wiggle room

00:25:41.360 in China anymore

00:25:42.180 they set the

00:25:43.440 they set up the system

00:25:44.720 at the top

00:25:45.400 and then they push

00:25:46.580 it down to the provinces

00:25:47.560 they push it down

00:25:48.400 to the city states

00:25:49.220 they implement it

00:25:50.680 the way they see

00:25:51.380 fit down there

00:25:52.060 but they give them

00:25:52.780 all the tools

00:25:53.360 to do it

00:25:54.000 and it runs

00:25:54.900 autonomously

00:25:55.860 it doesn't even

00:25:56.860 require human input

00:25:57.920 anymore

00:25:58.300 this is not

00:25:59.660 the way the world

00:26:00.480 that we in the world

00:26:01.560 want to go with this

00:26:02.580 for sure

00:26:03.180 but it's a clear

00:26:03.960 and present danger

00:26:04.820 that we face

00:26:05.640 by the way

00:26:07.940 this is why

00:26:08.660 the whole thing

00:26:09.420 about we would

00:26:09.980 change them

00:26:10.440 with capitalism

00:26:11.060 they would become

00:26:11.700 liberal democrats

00:26:12.560 was in the correct

00:26:13.540 we are elites

00:26:15.340 starting to take

00:26:16.080 on their model

00:26:17.260 because they like

00:26:17.820 their model

00:26:18.320 of technocracy

00:26:19.440 also one of the

00:26:20.940 things you said

00:26:21.340 is very prescient

00:26:22.100 the $600 billion

00:26:23.540 a year

00:26:24.220 that is stolen

00:26:25.180 from us

00:26:25.760 in technology

00:26:26.880 you notice

00:26:27.560 it's not really

00:26:28.660 that big a deal

00:26:29.380 I mean the companies

00:26:30.300 themselves

00:26:30.720 and the technocrats

00:26:31.500 there

00:26:31.800 don't really

00:26:33.100 raise holy hell

00:26:34.520 yes there's some

00:26:35.220 thing but if you think

00:26:36.460 about the amount

00:26:37.280 of money

00:26:37.940 I think it's

00:26:38.340 $3 trillion

00:26:38.800 in intellectual

00:26:39.700 property capital

00:26:40.980 there hasn't been

00:26:42.080 a big outpouring

00:26:42.740 from the technocrats

00:26:43.620 and the technologies

00:26:44.400 are stolen from

00:26:45.080 Patrick can you

00:26:45.840 hang on for one

00:26:46.400 second

00:26:46.660 we're gonna take

00:26:47.320 a short break

00:26:47.900 we've got Joe

00:26:48.420 Allen our editor

00:26:49.140 on all things

00:26:49.840 transhumanism

00:26:50.620 he's gonna join us

00:26:51.480 we have Patrick

00:26:52.480 Wood the author

00:26:53.660 of the book

00:26:54.220 The Evil Twins

00:26:55.360 Technology

00:26:56.460 and Transhumanism

00:26:57.840 next in the

00:26:58.360 War Room

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00:27:12.520 spending

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00:27:14.160 national leadership

00:27:14.860 has buried

00:27:15.480 their heads

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00:31:08.340 we're back in the war room

00:31:09.380 let's bring our Joe Allen in

00:31:10.800 Joe what did we just see

00:31:12.420 and are you a believer

00:31:13.900 in the thesis

00:31:15.240 put forward by the great

00:31:16.360 by the way

00:31:16.780 Patrick Wood

00:31:18.140 is going to be known

00:31:19.160 in this era

00:31:19.840 kind of like

00:31:21.300 I think

00:31:21.660 Lewis

00:31:22.040 I don't know

00:31:22.420 if you like this

00:31:22.940 Lewis Mumford

00:31:23.820 was in the 20s

00:31:25.160 and 30s

00:31:25.620 a great thinker

00:31:26.640 that was

00:31:27.200 decades and decades

00:31:28.920 ahead of his time

00:31:30.400 who was a

00:31:31.820 pure

00:31:32.680 technocrat

00:31:33.920 but Patrick Wood

00:31:34.980 has nailed this

00:31:35.660 nailed it for many years

00:31:36.540 one of the great thinkers

00:31:37.420 seminal thinkers

00:31:38.220 in our time

00:31:39.320 what are your thoughts Joe

00:31:40.360 you know Steve

00:31:42.720 I got

00:31:43.360 it is a fantastic book

00:31:47.740 I've recommended it

00:31:49.020 to everybody

00:31:49.500 who's interested

00:31:50.060 in the topic

00:31:50.760 it really serves

00:31:52.060 two functions

00:31:53.020 that I really

00:31:54.400 really needed

00:31:54.960 right now

00:31:55.500 you know

00:31:56.680 as it starts

00:31:57.860 it is an excellent

00:31:59.180 introduction

00:31:59.980 to the basic concepts

00:32:01.240 and so

00:32:02.340 people who are really

00:32:03.420 trying to knit this together

00:32:04.620 wrap their heads around it

00:32:05.800 it gives you that

00:32:07.220 but

00:32:08.000 as you go on

00:32:09.240 and as

00:32:09.600 as he begins

00:32:10.360 to weave together

00:32:11.220 all the elements

00:32:12.140 I think that he really

00:32:13.600 does make a solid case

00:32:15.680 that all of these

00:32:16.680 different institutions

00:32:17.800 from corporate institutions

00:32:19.260 to the NGOs

00:32:21.020 like the World Economic Forum

00:32:23.100 to our own government

00:32:25.300 and governments

00:32:26.000 such as that

00:32:26.820 run by the CCP

00:32:27.760 in China

00:32:28.440 he shows how

00:32:29.980 the philosophies

00:32:32.220 of technocracy

00:32:34.020 and transhumanism

00:32:35.880 have not just

00:32:37.320 started to creep in

00:32:38.800 but have established

00:32:40.020 themselves

00:32:40.720 in these different

00:32:42.120 power structures

00:32:43.160 and you know

00:32:44.560 I've read

00:32:45.540 Patrick now

00:32:46.380 for two years

00:32:47.260 we've known each other

00:32:48.000 for about that long

00:32:49.660 and his work

00:32:51.240 has had a tremendous

00:32:52.120 impact on me

00:32:52.960 because he recognized

00:32:54.300 early on

00:32:55.160 that

00:32:56.340 the philosophy

00:32:57.620 of technocracy

00:32:58.880 even as the

00:32:59.720 original technocracy

00:33:00.780 movement went away

00:33:01.800 the philosophy

00:33:03.180 of technocracy

00:33:04.060 has not gone

00:33:05.220 anywhere

00:33:05.980 it's more than

00:33:06.900 just a buzzword

00:33:08.080 it is a deeply

00:33:09.360 held worldview

00:33:10.300 and a philosophy

00:33:11.880 of government

00:33:12.620 and his early work

00:33:15.760 had a tremendous

00:33:16.560 impact

00:33:16.960 this one

00:33:17.640 especially

00:33:18.220 because of its

00:33:19.080 incorporation

00:33:20.060 of transhumanism

00:33:20.860 this one had

00:33:21.800 a tremendous

00:33:22.900 impact

00:33:23.620 now

00:33:25.060 just say real quick

00:33:26.820 one of the

00:33:28.040 concepts that he

00:33:29.100 pointed out to me

00:33:29.880 that has really stuck

00:33:31.000 is that technocracy

00:33:32.640 is not some

00:33:33.580 leftist movement

00:33:34.460 it's not

00:33:35.440 a right-wing

00:33:36.560 movement

00:33:37.140 it tends

00:33:38.160 towards globalism

00:33:39.300 but it's not

00:33:39.840 even necessarily

00:33:40.700 a globalist

00:33:41.640 movement

00:33:42.020 and I think

00:33:42.980 that that was

00:33:43.420 the insight

00:33:44.240 that has stuck

00:33:44.900 with me the most

00:33:45.740 because you see

00:33:47.040 even like

00:33:48.140 yesterday

00:33:48.740 it was announced

00:33:49.800 that Gab

00:33:50.560 is producing

00:33:51.480 a new AI bot

00:33:52.800 they've just released

00:33:53.500 the image generator

00:33:54.420 they'll have a new

00:33:55.280 Christian chat bot

00:33:56.420 that they'll release

00:33:57.360 in the near future

00:33:58.120 you don't get much

00:33:59.400 more right-wing

00:34:00.200 than Gab

00:34:01.000 and yet

00:34:01.860 they're adopting

00:34:02.720 the same techniques

00:34:04.080 that were described

00:34:05.020 by Lewis Monkford

00:34:05.960 and they're

00:34:07.020 adopting the same

00:34:08.220 techniques

00:34:08.820 that Patrick Wood

00:34:09.680 is pointing out

00:34:10.340 in his new book

00:34:11.240 yeah Patrick

00:34:13.680 I hope you didn't

00:34:14.220 as Teilhard de Chardin

00:34:15.400 or Lewis Monkford

00:34:16.380 I hope you didn't

00:34:16.860 take offense

00:34:17.360 to that

00:34:17.660 but they're readers

00:34:19.020 and Buckminster Fuller

00:34:20.340 they're guys

00:34:20.800 that I've

00:34:21.520 studied deeply

00:34:22.760 and you

00:34:23.260 this is an important

00:34:25.720 point that Joe makes

00:34:26.600 when people come to me

00:34:28.000 and say Steve

00:34:28.380 there's all this socialism

00:34:29.320 and you got the communists

00:34:30.360 and I said

00:34:30.840 but it's not really that

00:34:32.220 because it's deeper

00:34:33.320 than that

00:34:33.740 if you look at the top levels

00:34:35.740 those guys aren't

00:34:36.980 fighting over those

00:34:37.920 concepts that are

00:34:38.920 kind of 19th century

00:34:40.020 concepts

00:34:40.560 the Great War

00:34:42.000 of the 20th century

00:34:42.760 I think kind of

00:34:43.300 ended that in the 90s

00:34:44.540 I want you to go

00:34:45.820 through that

00:34:46.380 and also

00:34:47.160 in reading the book

00:34:48.500 and you do mention

00:34:49.960 Bilderberg and his others

00:34:50.740 but I keep telling people

00:34:52.320 when they look at

00:34:52.940 for the Illuminati

00:34:53.800 or the Bilderbergs

00:34:54.800 or the

00:34:55.440 Trilateral Commission

00:34:58.940 it all kind of

00:35:00.100 started there

00:35:00.900 but now

00:35:02.200 because of

00:35:03.360 things like

00:35:04.160 the business schools

00:35:05.020 and the IT departments

00:35:06.160 and the engineering schools

00:35:07.300 this is systemic

00:35:08.820 there's no group

00:35:10.160 of elders

00:35:10.860 that sits in a room

00:35:11.800 and makes these decisions

00:35:12.760 even Klaus Schwab

00:35:13.840 what he calls together

00:35:15.200 he calls

00:35:16.000 he has a gathering

00:35:16.860 of the tribes

00:35:17.580 there's no

00:35:18.560 so we have a

00:35:19.420 we have a

00:35:20.220 is a fully thought through

00:35:21.860 in developing

00:35:23.080 organism

00:35:23.760 that continues

00:35:24.860 to evolve

00:35:25.840 over time

00:35:26.540 and that is what

00:35:27.260 we're fighting

00:35:27.740 Patrick Wood

00:35:28.460 it is

00:35:30.280 the greatest champion

00:35:31.480 of technocracy

00:35:32.520 today is the

00:35:33.240 United Nations

00:35:34.040 their doctrine

00:35:35.760 of sustainable development

00:35:36.940 which is resource

00:35:37.880 based management

00:35:38.840 of everything

00:35:39.640 in sight

00:35:40.360 including humans

00:35:41.820 I might add

00:35:42.440 they have championed

00:35:45.840 this

00:35:46.140 this doctrine

00:35:47.400 of resource

00:35:48.480 management

00:35:49.340 resource based

00:35:50.160 management

00:35:50.760 to the whole world

00:35:52.260 before

00:35:53.340 it was just

00:35:54.200 basically located

00:35:55.420 maybe here in America

00:35:56.660 as a thought

00:35:57.280 but the

00:35:58.500 Trilateral Commission

00:35:59.320 was so successful

00:36:00.420 at turning this

00:36:01.160 over to the

00:36:01.780 United Nations

00:36:02.440 as initially

00:36:03.620 as agenda 21

00:36:04.580 that's where

00:36:05.680 sustainable development

00:36:06.660 started was in 1992

00:36:08.100 as a formal doctrine

00:36:09.440 the United Nations

00:36:10.760 just impressed this

00:36:11.680 on the whole planet

00:36:12.480 so they didn't need

00:36:13.920 any political system

00:36:15.040 to tout this

00:36:16.380 they didn't need

00:36:17.000 a political revolution

00:36:18.340 rather they went

00:36:19.840 into the back door

00:36:20.820 to the United Nations

00:36:21.900 to get all the nations

00:36:22.900 of the world

00:36:23.380 to accept this

00:36:24.200 new nirvana

00:36:25.040 that if you just

00:36:26.660 follow the sustainable

00:36:27.600 development goals

00:36:28.560 why we're going

00:36:29.340 to eliminate poverty

00:36:30.840 we're going to have

00:36:31.540 jobs for all

00:36:32.460 there's going to be

00:36:32.920 education

00:36:33.580 lifelong

00:36:34.380 etc

00:36:34.920 but you get

00:36:36.140 in a fine print

00:36:36.820 all of a sudden

00:36:37.460 you see

00:36:37.840 they want to control it

00:36:38.700 but hang on

00:36:40.120 yeah

00:36:40.320 but I want to make sure

00:36:41.240 people understand this

00:36:42.120 when most people

00:36:43.580 think of the UN

00:36:44.260 you think of the

00:36:44.900 you think of New York

00:36:45.960 and the General Assembly

00:36:47.020 and these dramatic speeches

00:36:48.500 and the Security Council

00:36:49.820 and the talks of war

00:36:50.980 and the rumors of war

00:36:51.960 that's not what

00:36:53.240 we're talking about

00:36:53.960 the engine room

00:36:55.300 of the UN

00:36:55.840 is Geneva

00:36:57.000 right

00:36:57.820 and Geneva

00:36:58.280 has a whole history

00:36:59.260 right

00:36:59.560 but talk to us

00:37:01.220 about Geneva

00:37:01.740 that's the

00:37:02.260 that's world

00:37:03.060 that's the World Health

00:37:04.200 Organization

00:37:04.840 that's UNESCO

00:37:05.760 the engine room

00:37:07.400 the things that

00:37:08.360 moved the UN

00:37:09.180 to really go down

00:37:10.100 their agenda

00:37:10.580 is not the

00:37:11.680 is not the

00:37:12.660 quite frankly

00:37:13.580 the irrelevant debate

00:37:14.860 that takes place

00:37:15.940 in New York

00:37:16.400 for the cameras

00:37:17.060 that's the shiny toy

00:37:18.480 they put out there

00:37:19.160 the real work

00:37:20.120 and this is where

00:37:20.820 quite frankly

00:37:21.500 Ambassador Bremberg

00:37:22.880 Andrew Bremberg

00:37:23.640 a good friend of mine

00:37:24.380 that we got in

00:37:24.920 there's two ambassadors

00:37:26.160 of the United States

00:37:26.740 one is Nikki Haley

00:37:27.760 in New York

00:37:28.880 the other is somebody

00:37:29.840 that's put Bremberg

00:37:30.680 was Trump's

00:37:31.800 ambassador

00:37:32.640 when he got there

00:37:33.380 Patrick

00:37:33.700 he said

00:37:34.180 the place is infested

00:37:35.760 with CCP

00:37:37.620 they literally

00:37:38.700 are in every organization

00:37:39.760 and every organization

00:37:40.740 has a little program

00:37:42.680 that all ties

00:37:43.520 to Agenda 21

00:37:44.520 Patrick Wood

00:37:45.520 every single one

00:37:46.860 what happens

00:37:47.920 in New York City

00:37:48.620 is kind of a

00:37:49.280 political theater

00:37:50.380 where people think

00:37:51.880 there's some

00:37:52.320 political process

00:37:53.200 that takes place

00:37:53.960 within the United Nations

00:37:55.040 that's far from the truth

00:37:56.080 it is

00:37:56.520 that it's not

00:37:57.020 political whatsoever

00:37:57.780 what they are

00:37:59.340 basically

00:37:59.920 is a system

00:38:01.380 where they

00:38:02.700 impose their system

00:38:03.960 their doctrine

00:38:04.620 of resource-based management

00:38:06.080 that's what

00:38:06.560 you know

00:38:06.820 global warming

00:38:07.580 and all that stuff

00:38:08.320 is about

00:38:08.680 driving people

00:38:09.520 into this new

00:38:10.180 economic system

00:38:11.060 Christiana Figueres

00:38:12.720 who was the leader

00:38:13.920 of the

00:38:14.480 or the organizer

00:38:16.120 of the Paris Agreement

00:38:17.540 climate agreement

00:38:18.300 she said openly

00:38:19.860 after that agreement

00:38:20.960 in Europe

00:38:21.540 at a press conference

00:38:22.380 she said openly

00:38:23.320 that our intention

00:38:24.160 is to replace

00:38:25.460 capitalism

00:38:26.280 and free market economics

00:38:27.440 with this new

00:38:28.180 economic system

00:38:29.040 which is

00:38:29.800 what they call

00:38:30.760 sustainable development

00:38:31.760 sometimes natural capitalism

00:38:33.680 sometimes we call it

00:38:35.200 over here

00:38:35.660 smart growth

00:38:36.400 or green new deal

00:38:37.220 it's nothing more

00:38:38.680 than warmed over

00:38:39.440 technocracy

00:38:40.100 from the 1930s

00:38:41.360 truly

00:38:41.660 but this is what

00:38:43.640 they've been spreading

00:38:44.460 to all the nations

00:38:45.400 of the world

00:38:46.000 very methodically

00:38:46.980 for the last

00:38:47.600 30 to 35 years

00:38:49.440 and they've done

00:38:50.260 a great job

00:38:50.940 the political nature

00:38:51.880 of every country

00:38:54.120 however

00:38:54.440 different from ours

00:38:55.540 they have all

00:38:57.200 accepted this

00:38:58.220 from the United Nations

00:38:59.260 who knows why

00:39:00.080 who knows how

00:39:00.940 they sold it to them

00:39:01.980 but they did

00:39:03.720 and now it's

00:39:04.640 everywhere in the world

00:39:05.520 and we're dealing

00:39:06.240 with it

00:39:07.360 we're corporately

00:39:08.440 now

00:39:08.780 in the world

00:39:09.560 we're dealing

00:39:10.240 with the United Nations

00:39:11.140 who seems to be

00:39:12.500 all powerful

00:39:13.300 to these people

00:39:13.980 like the World Health Organization

00:39:15.240 who are they

00:39:16.480 to control

00:39:17.180 the health

00:39:17.780 of the entire planet

00:39:18.900 it's like

00:39:19.920 how did they get

00:39:20.400 in that position

00:39:21.080 well it took them

00:39:22.040 it took them a few years

00:39:23.060 but they've been

00:39:24.220 working at it

00:39:24.840 this is the nature

00:39:26.200 of the United Nations

00:39:27.620 it's like the worst

00:39:28.560 case of crabgrass

00:39:29.800 your lawn ever had

00:39:30.900 Joe Allen

00:39:35.080 when we talk

00:39:36.140 about developments

00:39:36.940 this is what

00:39:37.860 one great example

00:39:39.100 that when you read

00:39:40.180 the book

00:39:40.540 you get the framework

00:39:41.600 of the book

00:39:42.120 and you see how

00:39:43.600 societal norms

00:39:45.520 and processes

00:39:46.440 can be exploded

00:39:47.460 just look

00:39:47.920 we are

00:39:48.340 I keep telling people

00:39:49.280 we are one month

00:39:50.800 into

00:39:51.280 roughly

00:39:52.120 the introduction

00:39:53.380 of AI

00:39:54.840 into the really

00:39:56.240 the commercial

00:39:57.160 or at least

00:39:57.760 the popular space

00:40:00.160 and it's already

00:40:01.060 got people

00:40:01.500 melted down

00:40:02.120 today

00:40:02.560 the Daily Mail

00:40:03.920 had a huge

00:40:05.260 one of their lead stories

00:40:06.120 biggest website

00:40:06.800 in the world

00:40:07.240 lead story

00:40:07.940 was I think

00:40:08.700 it was a dean

00:40:09.360 at Vanderbilt

00:40:10.180 had said

00:40:11.180 had used

00:40:11.800 had used

00:40:12.680 chat GPT

00:40:13.700 to do a memo

00:40:14.800 to the students

00:40:15.500 I think about

00:40:16.000 the Michigan State

00:40:16.740 Michigan State

00:40:18.720 shooting

00:40:19.500 and nobody

00:40:21.160 really kind of

00:40:21.740 caught it

00:40:22.200 and when they did

00:40:23.140 they wanted to fire

00:40:23.860 they put it on

00:40:24.360 suspension

00:40:24.800 but this is just

00:40:25.600 one example

00:40:26.320 that the chat

00:40:27.080 GPT

00:40:28.080 has everybody

00:40:29.240 in an uproar

00:40:30.980 and we're 30 days

00:40:32.220 into just a tiny

00:40:33.380 rollout

00:40:34.000 at Davos

00:40:35.600 how is this

00:40:36.840 going to impact

00:40:37.400 when you talk

00:40:37.740 about technology

00:40:38.420 and transhumanism

00:40:39.420 as you study these

00:40:40.820 and the big

00:40:41.380 developments

00:40:41.860 that are about

00:40:42.280 to come

00:40:42.800 how quickly

00:40:43.820 do you think

00:40:44.360 just us

00:40:44.940 as a society

00:40:46.740 based on

00:40:47.480 principles

00:40:48.100 and traditions

00:40:48.700 of the Judeo-Christian

00:40:49.920 West

00:40:50.380 and still somewhat

00:40:51.760 a constitutional

00:40:53.140 republic

00:40:53.880 slash

00:40:55.240 you know

00:40:55.920 with the

00:40:56.220 democratic

00:40:56.640 aspects to it

00:40:57.520 how quickly

00:40:58.340 do you think

00:40:58.700 before we become

00:40:59.420 overwhelmed

00:40:59.960 Joe Allen

00:41:00.520 you know

00:41:02.500 Steve

00:41:02.820 the technocracy

00:41:04.220 movement

00:41:04.780 transhumanism

00:41:05.860 as ideas

00:41:06.900 and even

00:41:07.540 the technologies

00:41:08.220 associated with them

00:41:09.320 it took a while

00:41:11.080 for them to really

00:41:12.020 be normalized

00:41:12.840 and make the

00:41:13.560 deep impacts

00:41:14.500 that they have

00:41:14.980 today

00:41:15.360 but specific

00:41:16.720 technologies

00:41:17.400 such as the

00:41:18.540 television

00:41:19.080 had their

00:41:20.100 critics

00:41:20.540 early on

00:41:21.340 early on

00:41:22.500 you had people

00:41:23.160 like Neil Postman

00:41:24.140 who argued

00:41:25.480 that the

00:41:26.660 television would

00:41:27.560 be a horrific

00:41:28.960 propaganda tool

00:41:31.280 and it would

00:41:32.620 dumb down

00:41:33.480 those who

00:41:34.200 watched it

00:41:34.740 another

00:41:35.080 gerrymander

00:41:36.020 early on

00:41:37.200 argued this

00:41:38.100 that television

00:41:38.820 would dumb

00:41:39.460 people down

00:41:39.960 and make them

00:41:40.360 less capable

00:41:41.080 of critical

00:41:41.680 thinking

00:41:42.120 the same

00:41:43.180 arguments

00:41:43.660 were made

00:41:44.040 about the

00:41:44.440 internet

00:41:44.860 early on

00:41:45.640 the same

00:41:46.580 arguments

00:41:47.080 were made

00:41:47.560 about the

00:41:48.040 smartphone

00:41:48.540 early on

00:41:49.420 and the same

00:41:50.340 arguments were

00:41:51.000 made about

00:41:51.620 social media

00:41:52.480 but what you

00:41:53.460 see with all

00:41:54.240 of those

00:41:54.780 is an

00:41:55.700 exponential

00:41:56.380 increase

00:41:57.400 in their

00:41:57.760 development

00:41:58.280 and also

00:41:59.060 an exponential

00:41:59.780 increase

00:42:00.640 in their

00:42:01.340 adoption

00:42:01.840 and I would

00:42:02.740 also argue

00:42:03.460 an exponential

00:42:04.380 increase

00:42:05.140 in their

00:42:05.480 impacts

00:42:06.060 and while I

00:42:06.920 don't necessarily

00:42:07.620 buy into

00:42:08.140 everything

00:42:08.680 Ray Kurzweil

00:42:09.740 says by any

00:42:10.500 stretch

00:42:11.000 I do think

00:42:12.120 that he

00:42:12.420 recognized

00:42:13.100 that exponential

00:42:13.860 increase

00:42:14.520 the way he

00:42:14.920 tracked

00:42:15.320 technologies

00:42:16.280 in general

00:42:17.160 alongside

00:42:18.000 Moore's

00:42:18.640 law

00:42:18.980 and so

00:42:20.300 with the

00:42:20.680 introduction

00:42:21.140 right now

00:42:21.880 of neural

00:42:22.840 networks

00:42:23.400 capable

00:42:23.880 of natural

00:42:24.700 language

00:42:25.160 processing

00:42:25.760 these large

00:42:26.840 language models

00:42:27.720 these chat

00:42:28.560 bots

00:42:28.980 I think

00:42:30.340 that as

00:42:30.920 they are

00:42:31.220 integrated

00:42:31.720 into larger

00:42:32.380 systems like

00:42:33.220 Microsoft's

00:42:34.100 Bing

00:42:34.360 as they're

00:42:35.360 integrated

00:42:35.820 into larger

00:42:36.420 systems like

00:42:37.400 Google

00:42:37.940 and like

00:42:38.720 Baidu

00:42:39.340 and even

00:42:40.080 smaller

00:42:40.860 subcultures

00:42:41.820 like the

00:42:42.940 Gab community

00:42:43.820 you're going

00:42:44.960 to see

00:42:45.480 more and

00:42:46.160 more

00:42:46.520 human

00:42:47.280 cognition

00:42:47.960 offloaded

00:42:49.160 to artificial

00:42:50.220 intelligence

00:42:50.800 and most

00:42:51.740 importantly

00:42:52.340 you're going

00:42:53.060 to see

00:42:53.500 the way

00:42:54.280 people think

00:42:55.200 the ideas

00:42:56.000 in their

00:42:56.640 heads

00:42:57.160 influenced

00:42:58.300 and impacted

00:42:59.200 by artificial

00:43:01.660 intelligence

00:43:02.380 by that

00:43:03.060 cognition

00:43:03.600 its mode

00:43:04.520 of thinking

00:43:05.140 its way

00:43:06.020 of sifting

00:43:06.480 through data

00:43:07.160 and feeding

00:43:08.180 it to the

00:43:08.900 user

00:43:09.300 I think

00:43:10.200 that that's

00:43:10.820 already

00:43:11.560 happening

00:43:12.040 in a big

00:43:12.600 way

00:43:12.820 you saw

00:43:13.140 it with

00:43:13.380 the

00:43:13.640 100

00:43:14.580 million

00:43:15.220 users

00:43:15.780 for

00:43:16.000 chat

00:43:16.220 GPT

00:43:16.820 within

00:43:17.280 a couple

00:43:17.680 of months

00:43:18.260 I think

00:43:19.260 that once

00:43:19.940 again

00:43:20.280 as it's

00:43:20.720 integrated

00:43:21.080 in the

00:43:21.340 big

00:43:21.500 companies

00:43:21.800 it will

00:43:22.140 explode

00:43:22.880 across

00:43:23.220 the world

00:43:23.740 I think

00:43:24.480 it will

00:43:24.700 be at

00:43:25.140 least

00:43:25.460 as big

00:43:26.100 as

00:43:26.760 the

00:43:27.600 internet

00:43:27.920 as a

00:43:28.340 whole

00:43:28.640 and as

00:43:29.160 smartphones

00:43:29.680 have been

00:43:30.560 as far

00:43:31.020 as impacting

00:43:31.740 human society

00:43:32.500 and our

00:43:32.960 culture

00:43:33.340 Patrick

00:43:36.700 then how

00:43:37.200 do

00:43:37.520 in a

00:43:38.360 constitutional

00:43:38.860 republic

00:43:39.480 made up

00:43:40.480 of

00:43:40.760 people

00:43:41.640 a vast

00:43:42.580 majority

00:43:42.980 still

00:43:43.320 I shouldn't

00:43:43.600 say

00:43:43.740 vast

00:43:44.000 majority

00:43:44.220 at least

00:43:44.480 a majority

00:43:44.960 are

00:43:45.160 traditionalist

00:43:45.800 how

00:43:46.820 then are

00:43:47.480 we to

00:43:47.840 fight

00:43:48.040 this

00:43:48.320 what is

00:43:49.160 your

00:43:49.300 recommendation

00:43:49.760 the

00:43:49.980 convergence

00:43:50.420 of these

00:43:50.840 two

00:43:51.180 massively

00:43:51.820 powerful

00:43:52.340 forces

00:43:52.860 that have

00:43:53.700 really

00:43:53.880 kind of

00:43:54.180 built up

00:43:54.620 through the

00:43:54.960 late 20th

00:43:55.600 century

00:43:55.900 and now

00:43:56.220 converge

00:43:56.880 what is one

00:43:58.360 to do

00:43:58.800 not the ray

00:43:59.780 of hope

00:44:00.140 because we're

00:44:00.580 not a

00:44:00.820 we don't sell

00:44:01.380 happy talk

00:44:01.940 here

00:44:02.200 but for the

00:44:03.100 hard nosed

00:44:03.900 homo sapiens

00:44:05.420 that we're

00:44:06.540 saying hey

00:44:07.000 if we're going to

00:44:07.460 go down here

00:44:08.040 we're going to

00:44:08.380 put up

00:44:10.020 we've got to

00:44:10.640 represent

00:44:11.040 the human race

00:44:12.480 over I don't

00:44:13.140 know 100,000

00:44:13.900 years or a

00:44:14.540 million years

00:44:15.040 we've got to

00:44:15.800 represent it

00:44:16.380 and we're not

00:44:17.200 going to go down

00:44:17.680 without a fight

00:44:18.320 what is that

00:44:18.840 fight

00:44:19.100 well this is my

00:44:21.860 personal persuasion

00:44:23.020 at this point

00:44:23.580 but I believe

00:44:24.240 the only thing we

00:44:25.320 can do is to

00:44:25.860 put a firewall

00:44:26.520 around where we

00:44:27.320 live against

00:44:28.140 this stuff

00:44:28.620 this is where

00:44:29.740 the transformation

00:44:30.320 needs to start

00:44:31.400 is within your

00:44:32.040 local community

00:44:32.740 where you live

00:44:33.420 with your own

00:44:33.920 city your city

00:44:34.660 council your

00:44:35.360 various boards

00:44:36.560 that you have

00:44:37.000 in your city

00:44:37.480 this ideology

00:44:38.700 needs to be

00:44:39.460 driven out

00:44:40.280 all the

00:44:40.760 councils of

00:44:41.360 government's

00:44:41.980 operations across

00:44:43.080 the country

00:44:43.500 need to be

00:44:43.940 driven out

00:44:44.400 that's not

00:44:44.900 constitutional

00:44:45.560 whatsoever

00:44:46.040 but these

00:44:47.000 policies are

00:44:47.680 coming down

00:44:48.220 into local

00:44:48.860 communities

00:44:49.340 they kind of

00:44:50.140 skipped the

00:44:50.620 federal government

00:44:51.260 in one way

00:44:51.800 they went right

00:44:52.420 to local

00:44:52.820 communities

00:44:53.280 this is where

00:44:54.580 we need to

00:44:55.080 start driving

00:44:55.700 it out

00:44:56.080 we can

00:44:57.240 if people

00:44:58.420 will get up

00:44:59.140 and get involved

00:44:59.940 in their civic

00:45:01.240 affairs

00:45:01.700 we can drive

00:45:03.180 this stuff out

00:45:04.060 but I will say

00:45:05.520 in the end of it

00:45:06.080 there's going to

00:45:06.600 be a tectonic

00:45:07.380 battle between

00:45:08.200 the political

00:45:09.260 systems of the

00:45:10.040 world including

00:45:10.700 ours and all

00:45:11.480 of our local

00:45:12.140 as well as

00:45:12.780 state etc

00:45:13.400 there's going to

00:45:14.360 be a tectonic

00:45:15.200 battle between

00:45:16.720 our political

00:45:17.600 structure and

00:45:19.320 this technocrat

00:45:20.780 slash transhuman

00:45:21.840 cartel

00:45:22.540 it'll come to

00:45:24.080 blows eventually

00:45:24.720 I'm afraid but

00:45:25.600 this is where we

00:45:26.760 need to start

00:45:27.320 it's in our

00:45:27.660 local community

00:45:28.480 that's one reason

00:45:29.560 by the way that

00:45:30.220 I started

00:45:30.740 Citizens for

00:45:31.440 Free Speech

00:45:32.100 several years

00:45:33.120 ago as a

00:45:33.720 non-profit

00:45:34.200 organization to

00:45:35.480 train people on

00:45:36.520 how to be

00:45:37.180 engaged in

00:45:38.240 civil civic

00:45:39.560 affairs

00:45:40.040 how to

00:45:40.860 talk how to

00:45:41.540 you know how

00:45:42.060 to present

00:45:42.920 yourself how to

00:45:43.780 persuade how to

00:45:45.100 get things done

00:45:45.960 how to network

00:45:46.700 how to discover

00:45:48.220 information in your

00:45:49.260 local communities and

00:45:50.080 stuff we've been

00:45:50.920 very successful

00:45:51.760 unfortunately we

00:45:53.320 don't have you

00:45:54.300 know 500,000

00:45:55.320 people in our

00:45:55.960 country out

00:45:56.520 actually doing

00:45:57.320 it would that

00:45:58.960 we did but I

00:46:00.340 think that's the

00:46:00.880 answer

00:46:01.220 tell me how

00:46:03.700 walk us through

00:46:04.400 how did this

00:46:05.660 get because most

00:46:06.260 people think hey

00:46:07.000 it's you know it's

00:46:08.220 all this concentration

00:46:08.920 of wealth and

00:46:09.700 power it's a

00:46:10.280 concentration of

00:46:11.020 technology and all

00:46:11.920 the scientism and

00:46:13.160 transhumanism you

00:46:14.320 would think that

00:46:14.780 would naturally go to

00:46:15.440 the federal level and

00:46:16.180 that's how they

00:46:16.580 control you how did

00:46:18.000 they skip that

00:46:18.760 level why did they

00:46:19.940 skip it and what's

00:46:20.780 your evidence of

00:46:21.420 that well primarily

00:46:23.420 in America and

00:46:24.520 actually this happened

00:46:25.320 around the world

00:46:26.120 too but in America

00:46:27.040 there was an

00:46:27.480 organization a UN

00:46:28.740 NGO but that was

00:46:30.240 known as ICLEI I

00:46:31.200 can't remember

00:46:31.640 what the acronym

00:46:32.200 stands for but

00:46:33.020 ICLEI ICLEI went

00:46:35.320 straight to cities

00:46:36.200 with sustainable

00:46:36.880 development sent in

00:46:38.280 their pinstripe suit

00:46:39.520 guys you know two

00:46:41.080 by two and they

00:46:42.500 talked the cities

00:46:43.360 into joining the

00:46:44.280 ICLEI organization

00:46:45.520 which was an

00:46:46.180 international NGO

00:46:47.300 and then they

00:46:48.620 force fed if you

00:46:49.740 will they put it

00:46:50.440 gave them a

00:46:50.800 conveyor belt of

00:46:51.680 all these agenda

00:46:53.300 21 doctrines and

00:46:54.540 stuff that they

00:46:55.100 should adopt in

00:46:55.820 their local

00:46:56.180 communities at one

00:46:57.640 time there was as

00:46:58.780 many I think a

00:46:59.540 625 or 630

00:47:02.100 major cities and

00:47:03.860 some minor ones

00:47:04.540 too in America

00:47:05.420 and counties that

00:47:06.940 were a member of

00:47:07.820 ICLEI this

00:47:09.160 completely was off

00:47:10.280 the radar of any

00:47:11.320 national organization

00:47:12.580 at all that our

00:47:13.860 federal government

00:47:14.560 had no clue what

00:47:15.660 they were doing

00:47:16.260 but ICLEI was

00:47:17.540 tremendously successful

00:47:19.060 and there's been a

00:47:20.760 lot of resistance

00:47:21.360 against them you

00:47:22.840 know in the last

00:47:23.420 four or five years

00:47:24.380 but that was one

00:47:25.700 way they came in

00:47:26.620 they just that you

00:47:27.400 know the National

00:47:28.000 League of Cities is

00:47:28.960 another organization

00:47:30.100 that has completely

00:47:31.900 been handed over

00:47:33.400 given over to

00:47:34.540 sustainable development

00:47:35.520 with the United

00:47:36.080 Nations they also

00:47:37.880 impress their their

00:47:39.980 doctrines and their

00:47:40.980 policies down on

00:47:42.320 cities in America

00:47:43.240 but the National

00:47:44.860 League of Cities is

00:47:46.060 an NGO it's a

00:47:47.460 nonprofit non

00:47:48.640 governmental organization

00:47:49.660 has no connection to

00:47:51.080 the government

00:47:51.580 whatsoever is not

00:47:53.000 under control or you

00:47:54.860 know even oversight of

00:47:57.020 any government body

00:47:58.000 they just do what

00:47:59.260 they do this has

00:48:00.740 been happening now

00:48:01.480 for several years

00:48:02.300 and these people

00:48:02.940 have just run amok

00:48:03.780 when there's been

00:48:04.280 no political oversight

00:48:05.440 Patrick how do

00:48:08.720 people get the book

00:48:09.520 and how do they

00:48:10.040 really get to you

00:48:10.740 to your writings and

00:48:11.760 everything that you're

00:48:12.300 working on because it

00:48:12.940 couldn't be more

00:48:13.400 powerful more timely

00:48:14.680 quite frankly this

00:48:16.360 will this will scare

00:48:17.800 you down to the

00:48:19.020 mirror of your bones

00:48:20.640 right in particularly

00:48:21.520 when you see the hill

00:48:22.340 that we have to climb

00:48:23.140 here because yes this

00:48:24.580 is going to be a

00:48:25.120 tough fight this is

00:48:25.960 signal not noise as

00:48:26.860 tough as stopping the

00:48:27.720 war stopping the debt

00:48:29.460 all those are all those

00:48:31.280 are incredibly hard but

00:48:32.620 as I say it's hard but

00:48:33.680 doable yes this is hard

00:48:35.740 but I got to figure out

00:48:36.940 how it's doable because

00:48:38.020 it's it this is the

00:48:39.220 biggest force and this

00:48:40.720 is what this age will be

00:48:41.620 known for the end of

00:48:43.120 homo sapien 1.0 this is

00:48:44.840 what they're clearly

00:48:45.460 there it's so far out of

00:48:46.840 the box you can't stop

00:48:48.580 that part of it so we're

00:48:49.540 going to have to fight in

00:48:50.900 a different direction how

00:48:51.740 do people how do people

00:48:52.660 get to you well

00:48:54.180 everything is available

00:48:55.120 on Amazon of course

00:48:56.240 there's a Kindle there's

00:48:57.780 the paperback there's

00:48:59.700 also on my other books

00:49:01.120 my book Technocracy the

00:49:04.740 hard road to world order

00:49:05.700 there's also an audio

00:49:06.700 book there available as

00:49:08.340 well as Kindle in the

00:49:09.220 book itself and people

00:49:10.680 can also go to

00:49:11.420 technocracy.news and

00:49:13.800 purchase any of my books

00:49:15.000 there of course I don't

00:49:16.140 have Kindle I can't sell

00:49:17.260 Kindle but you can get

00:49:19.060 the books directly from

00:49:20.000 technocracy.news I love

00:49:21.460 to send out autographed

00:49:22.560 books by the way to

00:49:23.620 people if you buy it

00:49:24.360 from me directly I can

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00:49:42.840 when you sign them I

00:49:44.200 like to say that's a

00:49:45.040 classic war room book

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00:49:47.920 two skulls it's a two

00:49:49.680 skull you get a two

00:49:50.420 skulls said two thumbs

00:49:51.740 up Patrick Wood real

00:49:53.620 quickly your social

00:49:54.360 media how do people

00:49:55.000 follow you well

00:49:56.660 actually I'm on

00:49:57.860 getter I'm on Twitter

00:49:59.840 stop techno at stop

00:50:01.660 technocracy I'm also

00:50:04.260 stop technocracy on what

00:50:06.660 I want to say on

00:50:09.300 telegram that's right

00:50:10.160 forgot so those are the

00:50:11.860 three major ones right

00:50:12.720 now getter of course is

00:50:13.980 probably going to be the

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00:50:17.240 know I post every article

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00:50:19.320 technocracy.news I post

00:50:20.740 there yeah that's where

00:50:23.220 I follow you Patrick

00:50:24.520 M. Wood thank you great

00:50:25.580 great great going Jack

00:50:26.960 Joe we got a bolt but

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00:50:29.900 you people get to all

00:50:30.600 your writings Steve I

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00:50:34.180 mental jigsaw how AI

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00:50:45.920 can see it at the top of

00:50:46.700 my social media getter

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00:50:50.260 T X Y Z thank you very

00:50:52.180 much Steve thank you very

00:50:53.140 much Joe Joe's going to

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00:50:57.320 Ignatius told us a day that

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Bannon's War Room - February 21, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 239： Twin Evils And The Rise Of Technocracy

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