Bannon's War Room - February 25, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 242: The Misdirection Play From The Flood Of Migrants Still Pouring In Across The Southern Border

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In this episode of The War Room, we bring on Todd Bensman to talk about the Trump administration's new policy on the southern border, and why it's actually a bait and switch scheme designed to keep illegal immigrants from claiming asylum in the US.

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00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:15.120 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:22.080 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
00:00:28.000 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:32.640 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:36.960 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
00:00:43.680 here's your host stephen k bannon friday 24 uh february year of our lord 2023 you're in the war room
00:00:52.480 as we finish the week here on a uh on a roll there's so much going on a tale of three cities
00:00:58.720 you've got uh east palestine ohio you have uh yuma arizona and you have kiev uh ukraine we've been
00:01:06.400 comparing contrasting we're doing again tomorrow morning there's so much news going on i want to
00:01:11.200 bring in todd bensman todd you got to help me out here brother i've got these announcements coming
00:01:16.240 out from biden it looks like they're trying to do something on the border they're trying to hide
00:01:19.760 what they've done it it's very confusing and i cover i've covered this now for 10 or 12 years
00:01:25.680 but then i read your piece in the new york post and then i read your piece you just put up a cs
00:01:30.720 first explain what the bite administration is actually announcing and then why i want your
00:01:36.880 logic to go through it and say this is only a misdirection play about the trying to take care
00:01:42.320 of the invasion of southern border they're actually trying to wave in actually more illegal aliens todd
00:01:47.600 bensman right we've talked about this before i'm going to go through it again it's a little bit
00:01:53.200 complicated but not that much um the biden administration began a program on january 5th
00:02:02.400 where to reduce the the crowds that we were seeing in places like el paso all those immigrants uh 1.00
00:02:09.120 illegals sleeping in the streets uh it was chaos and del rio migrant camps and the way that they plan to do
00:02:15.760 that is to pre-legalize them while they're still in mexico and give them humanitarian parole appointments
00:02:23.920 while they're there so that when they cross into the u.s they cross through a port of entry not between
00:02:31.840 them where they get counted as illegals so then they're they're claiming the declines in the capture
00:02:40.080 of illegals is way down which is true but the same number of people are crossing in they're just crossing
00:02:46.720 in a different way so it's this sort of bait and switch trickery uh sort of a thing with the numbers
00:02:53.120 an accounting trick um in order to make to require uh to incentivize illegal crossers to get in line
00:03:03.680 in mexico they're telling them that we will deny you asylum if you try to claim asylum at our uh between
00:03:12.640 our border you will be denied asylum and denied access to that new system uh but here's the trick
00:03:21.920 the trick is that that new rule where we're going to deny you asylum we're going to deny you asylum
00:03:29.040 is filled with loopholes exceptions and exemptions so many that they swallow the whole rule whole
00:03:39.440 uh there is no rule it's just sounds like there's a rule it's to for tiger there's nothing there for
00:03:46.720 example unaccompanied minors from anywhere who cross illegally into the u.s across that border they all
00:03:54.000 still get to go straight in family units that try to cross that border and then they say oh you can't
00:04:00.800 you you all they have to do is say i'm afraid to go back and you're in uh really um anybody who comes
00:04:10.080 across and says i don't understand how to use the cbp one app the online app that applies uh or i don't
00:04:18.160 even i lost my phone i don't even have a phone um or i can't read it i i speak a dialect of guatemalan
00:04:25.840 from the highlands or something and it's that you're in they're gonna humanitarian parole you in
00:04:32.480 and so this whole thing it was in the new york times front page uh it's it's been in all of the major
00:04:39.520 mass media outlets the biden administration's getting tough on asylum they're going trump on everybody
00:04:46.800 down there it's bs all of it is bs there is nothing there at all nothing there at all is what i'm
00:04:54.560 trying to exemptions loopholes swallow the rule okay i want to go back over this this is important
00:05:01.600 this audience always wants to be the head of the curve not just because they want to be the most
00:05:06.080 interesting person at the weekend dinner party or cocktail or having uh uh having an adult beverage
00:05:13.360 down at their favorite watering hole um they want to know because they're activists and they're
00:05:17.920 trying to save this country and in fact if memphis can do me a favor and if they could pull the cover
00:05:24.560 of todd bensman's new book i will use his cover to um make my point uh the book is called overrun
00:05:33.680 right and and which the book is amazing and i want everybody to amazon particularly people that love
00:05:38.000 this and what we try to do is get these books that if you really want to get into the
00:05:40.960 area and so you can put it up memphis you can yeah you don't need the beautiful visage of todd
00:05:46.400 benson and myself that cover that optic is the haitians at del rio that's the international bridge
00:05:52.480 in del rio texas biden's polling when that was happening and remember that had the situation with
00:05:59.280 the border patrol and the lariat and all that his polling hit and went into a free fall because the
00:06:05.520 american people are sitting there it's like the chinese balloon all of a sudden you can't you know 1.00
00:06:08.800 you're lying eyes you can't deny what the fact is that's the cover of bensman's new book overrun
00:06:14.240 about this fiasco of the biden administration on the invasion of our southern border the greatest
00:06:18.160 catastrophe um on anything related to immigration in the nation's history in order to avoid that
00:06:25.840 in an avoid order to avoid what's happened in el paso texas over christmas where you just have
00:06:32.160 tens of thousands coming in and there's taking over the city the body administration has come up and
00:06:37.120 they've worked on this for a while this has nothing to do with solving the problem or stopping the
00:06:43.680 invasion and this is why they've got to be one turfed out of office but also they have to be
00:06:49.040 impeached for breaking law and i think he'll criminally later because they have so thought
00:06:53.600 through this system they've got to get the picture on the cover of his book over and they can never have
00:06:59.360 you know haitians or chinese or guanamalans you name it underneath that bridge again that's that's
00:07:04.960 that's a death blow to them they can't have any more el paso texas they can't show in the
00:07:11.920 rio grande valley where it's being overrun so what they've done and this is how insidious it is what
00:07:17.040 they've done is they've gone as todd explained to us months ago and said hey this is what they're
00:07:20.960 going to do to argue the numbers coming down they go into mexico and have these humanitarian paroles
00:07:26.320 and all it is is a better processing and then they fly them into the heartland of the country
00:07:30.400 they skip the border towns as we say every town's a border town every state's a border
00:07:34.960 state they fly them right into the deep into the country by the way with with uh food stamp cards
00:07:40.720 and you know cell phones and all of it you don't have it they got it okay the um and then they would
00:07:48.160 they want to for further optics they come up and they put all this up the papers over the last couple
00:07:52.880 of days is and it sounded so odd is that um biden you know gets focused on the border and goes back
00:08:00.000 to trump-like policies and what todd ben's been saying he goes that all of it's a lie it's all a
00:08:06.800 lie the optics understand american people are faced with the optics of illegal immigration are revolted by
00:08:13.120 it and that means they're not going to vote for it so what they've done is systematically gone through
00:08:19.120 with the laws and twist things so they actually exacerbate the invasion into this country but
00:08:25.680 hide it is that essentially the the the construct here todd bensman absolutely their number one
00:08:34.480 motivating factor here is they do not want photos anymore like that under the bridge or el paso
00:08:42.800 nothing is more important to that administration not doing the right thing or um you know blocking
00:08:50.400 deterring illegal immigration uh or slowing the flow or anything like that what they are doing is
00:08:58.400 they're moving the accounting from this column the bad column to this other column that seems like
00:09:05.520 it's a good column uh so let me give you an example last month that for the month of january the
00:09:11.840 numbers came out of apprehensions of illegal immigrations 157 000 they they put that out
00:09:19.680 there look what we've done we reduced it was 250 000 the month before in december we've reduced it by
00:09:27.760 a hundred thousand but guess what the number of immigrants who crossed through the who were brought
00:09:34.800 in through the ports of entry and airports was about 115 000 so actually it was a new grand world record
00:09:45.520 again it's just that this other hundred thousand got peeled off and counted in this uh column that's what
00:09:54.000 they're doing uh and now they're saying well we like that we want to keep doing that so we're going to tell
00:10:00.000 the immigrants we're going to tell all these people that if you try to cross between the ports of
00:10:04.960 entry and claim asylum we're going to ban you from even going through the lead this other thing the other
00:10:12.320 line uh but that turns out to be a complete fraud uh they call it uh that that you have a rebuttable
00:10:20.880 rebuttable that means that you can argue it when you cross in and somebody tells you no you can say but and you're in
00:10:30.000 all you have to do is say i'm a i'm afraid to go back uh you have you could be a a um an unaccompanied
00:10:38.720 minor you get in uh pretty much anybody who wants to could peel off from those lines and i suspect
00:10:46.320 listen the immigrants are smart i'm telling you i've spent a lot of time with them on the ground these
00:10:52.400 are smart they may not have formal education but man they they are smart they're sharp and they will
00:10:58.480 figure this out in about 10 minutes that that new york times article and what they're saying is is bs
00:11:05.840 they're all going to get let in they're going to take selfies send them down the line and before
00:11:10.880 long we're going to have del rio camps again el paso camps it's not going to take that long for that for
00:11:16.400 people to figure this out um we had uh you know you had that you had the yuma hearings and ben burkwam
00:11:24.640 went from unreal america's voice went from east palestine down to uh where the judiciary committee
00:11:30.640 is holding these now field hearings which are just amazing and it was mesmerizing if you had a chance
00:11:36.640 to watch it todd you ought to when you get to you watch the uh watch the video because the the um
00:11:42.480 people in yuma it was just incredible and the financial destruction of the hospital health care
00:11:46.720 system the education system all of it the um and then he stuck around and went out with gates they
00:11:51.840 did a night run with the border patrol and literally there were 500 chinese there were guys from from
00:11:57.760 chile or from peru all these different groups and these are guys that just didn't want to stay they
00:12:02.320 didn't want to wait to process and they knew about the mirror they didn't want to wait they
00:12:06.560 wanted to come across and just come across they don't have to because the yeah real quickly they
00:12:14.000 don't have to because the app the online app that they're using for the new quote unquote legal system
00:12:21.040 which is unlawful uh only has five languages so one of the loopholes is if you don't have one of the
00:12:28.640 five languages you can still cross illegally through the border and we'll give you humanitarian 0.97
00:12:33.440 poor so that's the chinese people are crossing in that way it's sick and the border patrol was uh 1.00
00:12:42.720 you know and they they i asked ben about it he said the suicide rates are all-time highs uh that
00:12:48.960 people just can't take the pressure anymore they see what's happening to their country they see what's
00:12:53.040 happening to their profession let me ask you you've spent your entire adult life doing this you've been in
00:12:58.000 texas dps and intelligence you've done this you know the border you know the people what is what's
00:13:04.640 the morale like among administrators and border patrol when they see what mayorkas and garland and biden
00:13:11.280 are doing to game the system and twist it to twist this so they can actually exacerbate an evasion
00:13:18.560 of our beloved country sir well it's like this i mean imagine um a navy seal team that has trained and
00:13:27.200 trained and trained and trained for war fighting uh and then the war finally comes and they are uh pulled
00:13:34.000 off into some duty that requires that they aid and abet the enemy and not kill them uh that they uh are
00:13:43.840 to be in the rear echelon or something and they can't use what they're they're training to do what
00:13:50.000 they're supposed to do they'd be in they're infuriated they would they can't wait to get out there and
00:13:56.160 border patrol for the last two years has been required to become like a welcome mat literally
00:14:02.480 a welcome mat walk all over us we have to help you get in we have to process you in and it's
00:14:08.960 it's terrible to them they want to catch them they want to arrest them they want to catch bad guys they
00:14:14.000 want to deport uh they want to defend the borders and when they are not being allowed to do that they're
00:14:20.560 upset and i think rightly so todd the article in the new york post is amazing your cis piece is 0.71
00:14:29.360 amazing we're going to put it up everywhere we'll help you push it out the book is incredible uh where
00:14:34.560 did they get the book all your writings because you're in the you're in the top of this and i know
00:14:38.880 you're going to be a critical part of actually putting together a plan that this has to stop and i got
00:14:44.560 in the appropriations process this has to be stopped all these games got to stop and mayorka's
00:14:50.160 impeachment is one thing if that galvanizes a solution but more importantly than even
00:14:55.120 impeaching that guy and throwing him out of office and i think eventually throwing him in jail
00:14:59.760 is that we've got to um we we must we must stop this invasion right now if we if we don't do this the
00:15:06.080 country's over so you don't have a border as trump says you don't have a country todd how do people get
00:15:11.200 to all your content that's right uh so i'm at uh t bensman at getter the book is available anywhere
00:15:18.880 books are sold it just released this week as you know uh the book um we'll have uh another excerpt i
00:15:26.000 think this weekend in the daily caller about the plan uh how to get out of this thing so you might
00:15:32.560 want to take a look this weekend at the daily caller they told me it was going to run this weekend
00:15:36.640 uh a four or five step plan to get out of this thing um and hope is not all lost here i mean
00:15:44.800 there's a chance no we just got to keep fighting and uh your content is unbelievable by the way the
00:15:53.120 book is number one in all the different categories and i mean the book the war and posse is really
00:15:56.960 stepped up to the plate here they bought some serious books because you're you're number one
00:16:01.360 everywhere fantastic i know your publisher is happy like i said when i got it and i know this
00:16:06.720 area pretty well i read it sat down and it's a big book but i uh i uh and parts of it are not that
00:16:12.560 accessible i mean it's you really get into it like the audience likes but it i read it in one sitting
00:16:17.120 i just i just thought it was amazing incredible incredible work todd thank you so much appreciate
00:16:22.080 it one of the warriors todd bensman one of the guys we're really proud of having an association with
00:16:27.680 i gotta tell you i now i got heart palpitations i gotta bring in crom crom we're gonna do do you
00:16:32.960 at the end of the last hour and i said no i want to get bensman's thing on the border because my
00:16:37.040 blood pressure is going to get up on this it this invasion is so it's so outrageous what's happening
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00:16:54.320 why the audience loves having you come on so talk to us about it well steve thanks so much
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00:21:53.840 well no thank you crime i got to do it because i had bensman uh two two two big stories and what
00:21:59.360 i'm going to mention i got bensman and now i got joe allen so the blood pressure is going to go up
00:22:04.560 again because we're going to talk about artificial intelligence thank you so much for coming on brother
00:22:09.760 thank you appreciate it
00:22:12.800 uh breaking on business insider i just want to get joe allen we're going to play a cold open here in a
00:22:17.120 minute uh breaking on business insider uh i just got to give it just broke in 10 days the number of
00:22:24.000 dead aquatic animals found near the ohio train derailment is jumped from 3500 to 43 000. and this
00:22:32.080 is from the ohio this is from the ohio agency that actually monitors this the ohio uh natural
00:22:38.880 resources department department of natural resources they have upped the number of dead aquatic animals
00:22:44.880 to 43 000. think about that and nobody was going out there until trump got involved
00:22:49.600 so we're really proud of our coverage and all things on east palestine this is outrageous
00:22:53.600 from 35 i thought 3500 was over the top 43 000 dead aquatic animals but there's nothing to see here
00:23:02.560 let's go ahead and play the cold open uh for joe and then we'll bring in joe allen
00:23:08.160 well computers actually are already much smarter than than people on so many dimensions we just keep moving
00:23:12.880 the goal posts basically there's just a smaller and smaller corner of what of intellectual pursuits
00:23:19.280 that humans are better than um computers and that every year it gets smaller and smaller and and soon
00:23:27.520 we will be far far surpassed in every single way guaranteed okay yeah my view is that um computer may be
00:23:36.800 clever but human being are much smarter i don't think artificial intelligence is a threat people
00:23:44.560 like us street smart we never scared of that we we think it's a great fun and we want to change
00:23:51.120 ourselves to embrace it i don't know man that's like famous last words it seems like the direction
00:23:57.360 of your hope that we solve this issue has declined there was a conference on what are we going to do
00:24:07.520 about looming risk of ai disaster and elon musk attended that conference and i was like maybe this is
00:24:16.480 it maybe you know that maybe this is when the the powerful people notice and it's you know like one of
00:24:23.200 the relatively more technical powerful people who could be noticing this and maybe this is where
00:24:28.400 humanity finally turns and starts you know not quite fighting back because there isn't an external enemy
00:24:34.400 here what came out of that conference well was open ai which was basically the fairly nearly the worst
00:24:42.880 possible way of doing anything a whole like this is not a problem of oh no what if secret elites
00:24:48.800 get ai it's that nobody knows how to build the thing if if we do have an alignment technique
00:24:54.480 it's going to involve running the ai with a bunch of like careful bounds on it where you don't just
00:24:59.760 like throw all the cognitive power you have at something you have limits on the for loops anything
00:25:04.880 that could do that is an artifact where somebody else could take it and take the bounds off the
00:25:08.560 for loops and use it to destroy the world then it was like chat gpt's blind version of like
00:25:14.080 throwing the ideals at a place where they were exactly the wrong ideals to solve the problem when
00:25:18.000 the problem is that demon summoning is easy and angel summoning is much harder open sourcing all
00:25:24.000 the demon summoning circles is not the correct solution i'm not even using and i'm using elon
00:25:29.120 muck's own terminology here they talk about ai is summoning the demon which you know not accurate but
00:25:33.920 and then the solution was to put a demon summoning circle in every household and why because his friends
00:25:39.440 were calling him luddites once he'd expressed any concern about ai at all so he picked a road that 0.80
00:25:45.200 sounded like openness and like accelerating technology so his friends would stop calling
00:25:49.840 him luddites and and that was it that was like that was me in 2015 going like oh so so this is what
00:25:57.680 humanity will elect to do we we will not rise above we will not have more grace not even here at the very end
00:26:15.200 we're going to take a short commercial break i'm going to learn how to use my microphone and we're
00:26:27.840 going to come back we're going to have the joe allen's going to explain it all to us in the second
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00:30:03.580 okay it's no better way to end a work week than to go through uh artificial intelligence and
00:30:12.300 everything dealing with transhumanism joe i gotta tell you you know we've been working on this for
00:30:17.140 a couple of years but obviously the chat uh gpt uh release at davos and i keep telling people we're
00:30:23.320 only five or six weeks from that um is exploded interest in this throughout the world what did
00:30:30.880 you just show us right there because it when when a demon summoning circles what is he talking about
00:30:38.040 by the way i'm a proud luddite i just want to go on record i'm a luddite history will record that
00:30:43.260 the luddites tried to stop the end of the human race right so when they talk about replacement theory
00:30:48.760 and picking on poor tucker for you know the replacement theory about white nationalism hey
00:30:53.860 we are trying to represent the entire human race here in its own destruction joe allen what do you
00:31:00.120 got for me steve the uh the second person we heard there is eliezer yudkowski he's a co-founder
00:31:08.280 of the machine intelligence research institute he's important for a lot of reasons a lot of people
00:31:15.320 believe he's alarmist from what we heard just then about uh ai being an existential threat to the human 1.00
00:31:22.040 race you can see why but nobody would deny that he is extremely intelligent his work backs a lot of
00:31:30.260 uh what nick bostrom claims in his book super intelligence in fact it was a huge influence on
00:31:36.640 nick bostrom and what he's describing there with these demon summoning circles for musk and his crew 0.98
00:31:44.860 this is a metaphor for the danger of artificial intelligence but i think a lot of religious people
00:31:53.300 uh sense something a lot more powerful than that even in the willingness to use those sorts of
00:32:00.360 metaphors for the notion of a an intelligence a digital intelligence that would surpass and perhaps
00:32:07.260 destroy the human race so with yudkowski you have to understand he is a transhumanist he's one of the 0.86
00:32:16.180 original transhumanists in many ways he desires everything from digital immortality to the creation of an
00:32:24.340 artificial intelligence god he is all about every technology that you and i critique every show but his concern
00:32:33.260 is that artificial intelligence is moving far faster than human beings are going to be able to apply
00:32:41.620 any kind of restraint to it or to inject any sort of moral qualities any sort of benevolence that would keep
00:32:49.460 that machine intelligence from either going out of control or just actively turning against us
00:32:55.520 and so when he's talking about open ai and elon musk he was in contact with musk he in fact in some
00:33:04.820 ways you would say he is the root of musk's concern about artificial intelligence going out of control
00:33:11.760 but to yudkowski's uh fear and in many ways contempt musk decided to go ahead with open ai meaning that you
00:33:23.720 now have a a an organization that is operating in some sense to accelerate the development of artificial
00:33:31.220 intelligence and it is accelerating undoubtedly far faster than human beings can control actively
00:33:39.160 you see that with chat gpt right the reason that you in the early days had conservatives
00:33:46.640 lauding chat gpt is this this broad and balanced tool that could perhaps uh overcome the the ideological
00:33:56.020 biases of wikipedia or google is because as an artificial intelligence as a neural network chat gpt was
00:34:06.840 digging into a huge corpus of human language and coming back with balanced views it was coming back with a
00:34:14.200 sort of statistical average but that statistical average included a lot of conservative viewpoints
00:34:21.340 right so it's balancing it knowing that and trying to align that ai with their own values the the san
00:34:30.000 francisco libs that mostly run open ai put their thumbs on the scale and they aligned it with their
00:34:37.260 values they turned it woke so a lot of people are talking about this now what happens if you have all of
00:34:43.180 these different institutions incorporating artificial intelligence that determines information flow that
00:34:49.500 determines educational content that determines even a corporate content right like corporate output or news
00:34:56.340 output what happens when you have an ai system or ai systems like that that are all woke that are all
00:35:02.520 basically lobotomized liberals and that's what you see with chat gpt now the thing is that is this in no way
00:35:11.560 going to be the the last word on artificial intelligence you have groups like gab that are producing their own
00:35:18.920 natural language processing ais right their own large language models they hope to use it to create a sort of
00:35:26.660 theocratic or christian uh ai system so that you get instruction theological and biblical uh instruction from
00:35:36.000 ai so that ai is now the mediator between you and sacred texts you have baidu that is producing their own
00:35:46.120 large language model that will surely reflect chinese communist values you have lambda or bard from google
00:35:53.700 that will reflect surely the same sorts of biases at google whatever they may be surely left leaning and so what you end up
00:36:02.640 with steve is an ai war right an ai arms race and so that will inevitably drive the the increasing
00:36:12.840 complexity and sophistication of these systems it will more and more so normalize the integration of those
00:36:19.820 systems into our society because our society has largely become a digital prison and people you know it's been
00:36:28.220 described by many you're going to have this sort of polytheistic uh set of of competing theocracies
00:36:35.700 right you're going to have the lefty woke the digital theocracy you're going to have the christian
00:36:41.040 national right-wing digital theocracy you're going to have the communist digital theocracy you're going to
00:36:47.060 have just the generic corporate sort of digital theocracy to the extent that money becomes the the sort of
00:36:53.500 highest value in the system and that to me you know i understand the the desire to jump in to the fray
00:37:00.240 and to take hold of these tools it makes sense to me but steve what i see is just more and more
00:37:07.580 normalization of this human ai symbiosis this human ai relationship coupled with an out-of-control
00:37:15.080 advancement of the technology itself and that goes from everything from the cultural aspect to the
00:37:19.980 political aspect to the military aspect and even as yudkowski and musk and bostrom and teal i'll talk
00:37:27.560 about a sort of existential aspect in which the the technology itself could be used or could just go
00:37:34.880 out of control and actually start damaging people in and of its own accord
00:37:39.220 well correct me for they've even had to tone it down i i think it was bing they've even had to uh
00:37:47.460 to tone it down for what they do because there's two arms races i want you to describe to people one
00:37:52.800 arms race is the contextual or content arms race versus you know you got gab and trying to do the
00:37:58.920 christian version you've got a lot of criticism already on the uh on some of the flaws they've already
00:38:04.060 seen or how woke some of these systems are so you've got that arms racing i got baidu putting up
00:38:09.700 but then you have a deeper arms race is the one that teal goes well hey even if i'm uh even if i'm a
00:38:15.080 luddite even if i'm not an accelerationist uh we have to be worried because of what china's doing right 1.00
00:38:22.000 now and you see this on the battlefield people should become quite aware that although horribly
00:38:28.600 outgunned and outmanned one of the reasons that the ukrainians besides their own individual courage 0.63
00:38:33.940 and valor and fighting for their home country one of the things that's helping them is the u.s we've
00:38:38.020 already know we know this have been giving ai tools on target acquisition and it's it's been like a 10
00:38:44.360 to 1 uh leverage point for their military which is massive right the arms race i'm most concerned
00:38:51.440 about is not even what's going on between gab and and the and the woke liberals in san francisco as
00:38:56.920 as bad as that is i think as you i agree with you on the normalization of it right the one i'm
00:39:02.900 most worried about and i keep talking about is inside the weapons labs today inside the research
00:39:07.440 universities today inside the corporations today and that's just in the united states forget what's
00:39:13.180 going on in romania forgets what's going on in korea forget what's going on in mainland china
00:39:18.560 but there are massive advances of this that haven't come out yet we're we're once again we're just over
00:39:24.840 30 days from essentially it's it's coming out party at davix and look how much look how much uh it's it's
00:39:31.780 really oh if you follow the that part of the news cycle it's overwhelmed the news cycle it's all
00:39:36.100 people are talking about my bigger concern is the arms race we're not seeing that's going to go three
00:39:42.000 or four levels and you're going to get that dropped on you in a year or two joe allen absolutely steve i
00:39:49.340 mean you know there are two maybe you could say three layers to that arms race and it's all logical 0.99
00:39:55.580 it all makes logical sense technology is and has always been a source of power of worldly power
00:40:03.220 knowledge when used to acquire and exert worldly power is a power itself right it's a part of the
00:40:11.900 powers and principalities so to speak and so artificial intelligence is that convergence of those two
00:40:17.860 forms of power it's a way of scouring massive data sets finding patterns in it and leveraging that
00:40:26.420 power so that you can then ascend in the ranks of the sort of worldly hierarchy and so you've got that
00:40:33.760 culture war right between the sort of woke versus the based ai and that's just the language models right 0.99
00:40:40.580 you're just literally chatbots but then you have that military aspect so artificial intelligence is
00:40:47.080 extremely useful for surveillance uh palantir they're the ones founded by peter thiel right
00:40:53.760 palantir is the company donating their artificial intelligence to the ukrainians uh it by all accounts
00:41:01.220 has been tremendously successful it's allowed them to use a lot of outdated equipment and weaponry
00:41:07.320 uh at least reasonably effectively against the russians and the reason is is because you you're
00:41:13.700 you're able to not only scour communications so that you can locate enemy targets but even just
00:41:21.800 in immediate battlefield you're able to scour it for the physical targets themselves the troops
00:41:27.320 or the tanks or the munitions and then from there the ai is also effective at the you know active
00:41:34.960 target acquisition in a battle scenario and as it goes forward you have guys like eric schmidt
00:41:41.780 backing companies like ishtari and there are tons of other companies like this and they're looking
00:41:47.660 to bring drone warfare to that next level so that you have drone swarms and in the ideal that they hold
00:41:54.980 you have drone swarms that operate as a swarm right that no human being could ever do that no human being
00:42:01.140 could pilot that and then you also have facial recognition and other sources of identity recognition
00:42:08.880 whether it be like a cell phone or an ip address in order to target and find uh your enemy and blow
00:42:15.820 them up with a you know either a a missile or a kamikaze drone and all those technologies exist
00:42:22.360 already you have kamikaze drones already they're being used in ukraine and been used for many many
00:42:26.360 years you have swarm technology you see it in those those light shows that's that's already there the ai is
00:42:32.600 already there you have facial recognition that's already there it's just a matter of integrating it and it
00:42:37.920 wouldn't surprise me if that's already uh able to be rolled out it's just it just simply hasn't been
00:42:43.540 deployed yet you have other things like the poseidon torpedo nuclear powered nuclear tip can swim under
00:42:51.560 the at the floor of the ocean as long as it needs to and it is ai powered right it's ai guided it simply
00:42:57.520 will swim around indefinitely until it finds the proper path that is in no human control whatsoever no
00:43:04.820 human does that until it finds its target and on and on and on and so that you know that rationale
00:43:11.260 that eric schmidt puts forward that peter thiel puts forward that many people put forward musk to some
00:43:17.100 extent in a less militaristic sense puts it forward how do you compete against china how do you compete
00:43:23.400 against russia if they are going to embrace and use these technologies without the same ethical
00:43:29.500 constraints as the u.s would let me let me give you a perfect example i think it was general minifield
00:43:35.940 i think i've pronounced his name correctly the uh the head of transport and uh not transport command but
00:43:42.000 air command airborne command of the u.s air force he sent this memo around i think it was about three
00:43:48.620 weeks ago and it got leaked and the memo was to all his he's one of the combatant commanders he was
00:43:53.900 sent it around to uh uh some of his uh staff and he said hey we're gonna be in a shooting war with the
00:44:01.720 ccp in the south china sea in the straits of taiwan and trying to break an air blockade over taiwan
00:44:07.900 no later than 2025 he said just put the pin in that and he starts going what they need as far as
00:44:13.820 resources in the behind the curve or something and he had a punch list there of creative things they
00:44:18.460 should do number one creative idea and this is a guy that's actually going to be in and he says hey
00:44:24.120 we have to aim to shoot for the head of the ccp when they come for us because they're going to 1.00
00:44:28.420 overwhelm us because obviously it's only 90 miles from mainland china his number one recommendation
00:44:33.420 joe was to take kc-135s and outfit them with putting i don't know 50 drones 100 drones driven by ai
00:44:43.480 drop them out of the back and just swarm the ccp with this i mean it was already a specific example 0.99
00:44:49.460 of some things as we have to get work on this because this could actually level the playing
00:44:53.900 field in the in the in the battlefield immediately this is the scary thing right now we've almost got
00:45:00.480 blown by any type of regulation i mean there's talks of people here about having hearings and trying
00:45:06.540 to get our arms around this but it's exploding so fast as we warned everybody i just want to leave
00:45:12.400 it not just with ai but we've we've had we focus so much on ai here recently but in the other
00:45:18.180 verticals that lead to the singularity whether it's crisper and biotechnology nanotechnology
00:45:22.880 regenerative robotics i mean i just saw where they they introduced the robot dogs to a couple of special
00:45:28.560 forces for training exercises and the dogs were you know two orders of magnitude more sophisticated than
00:45:34.680 they thought you know helped by ai but in every one of those verticals there's i keep telling people
00:45:41.100 they're going to be just as many explosive announcement as the chat gpt's don't think
00:45:46.220 that's unique that that is that is going to be the course where everybody's going wow this really
00:45:51.460 accelerated at an accelerating rate what you're seeing in these technologies right now and that's
00:45:56.120 why we're going to converge on the singularity much much earlier than people think is you're increasing
00:46:01.100 at an accelerating rate in each of these verticals joe allen
00:46:04.720 absolutely and you know ai does in many ways sit at the top of all that right so you look at
00:46:12.920 biology kind of humanity 2.0 altering human genes well the ability to sequence genes and to model the
00:46:20.760 resulting proteins has been accelerated tremendously by artificial intelligence beyond what human beings
00:46:27.940 were able to do before and then you have the brain right so all these sorts of brain computer
00:46:34.040 interfacing ideas in transhumanism the ability right now to scan the brain and interpret that information
00:46:41.160 is made possible at the level it's at by artificial intelligence the ability to link that brain to
00:46:48.680 an external system is made possible by artificial intelligence and as we we showed we showed with
00:46:54.880 uh uh the uh dr farah haney uh the uh the the non-invasive brain computer interfaces are really right around the
00:47:02.960 corner the brain chips perhaps a distraction it's concerning but a distraction non-invasive brain computer
00:47:10.520 interfaces really are right around the corner in fact they're already being employed from medicine to meditation
00:47:17.120 to gaming and then you have robotics the design of the robots is made possible by modeling
00:47:23.920 within artificial intelligence systems the control of those robots made possible by artificial intelligence
00:47:31.220 and its advancement uh the the psychological profiling of individuals within a society made possible by
00:47:39.340 artificial intelligence and advanced algorithms the uh in analysis of social networks for social
00:47:47.000 manipulation social engineering made possible by advanced algorithms and artificial intelligence
00:47:53.800 intelligence and then on up to large language models and the the sort of military applications of ai that
00:48:01.940 we've been talking about so all of these you know they're they're all blended together and they're all linked
00:48:08.280 and made possible or at least the advanced stages of them are made possible by developments in artificial intelligence
00:48:14.100 that is why people are freaking out about it including transhumanists and all of these are examples 0.53
00:48:20.200 steve of artificial narrow intelligence right they're just able to do those specific tasks but they're able to do them
00:48:27.500 at a superhuman level beyond what a human could do and it requires a human to be in the loop but the goal that they're
00:48:34.840 driving for at open ai and at google's deep mind and at baidu and at tencent and in various other labs
00:48:42.020 many of them funded by darpa is artificial general intelligence where you start linking them together
00:48:47.720 into an artificial sort of brain they call it human like but it won't be human like it will be
00:48:54.020 basically an alien intelligence it won't be anything like a human it won't feel like a human it won't
00:48:59.600 think like a human won't experience like a human and the fear that these transhumanists have and we're
00:49:05.060 talking about people who want this to happen the fear they have is that either a one of those narrow
00:49:09.800 ais goes super intelligent and just starts wiping people out in some way or another it's control it's in control
00:49:15.720 of a critical system or it's able to manipulate a person or even worse an artificial general intelligence
00:49:22.060 achieves super intelligence and it is basically super intelligence it's super intelligent by definition
00:49:27.940 and it begins to behave in a way that's dangerous to human beings it's all of it may seem like science
00:49:34.340 fiction and reality may never get to the to the extremes that these people are predicting but reality is
00:49:41.260 already keeping up with the early phases of it's going to get there wherever it's going it's going fast yeah
00:49:47.700 it's it's the reason we brought you in a couple of years ago be edited it's getting as it's it's accelerating
00:49:53.440 at an accelerating rate joe how they get to all your content and writing you can find my stuff at joebot.xyz
00:50:00.260 at warroom.org under the transhumanism tab and social media at joe bot xyz twitter and getter
00:50:09.400 thank you very much steve thanks brother thanks brother great job uh we're going to be posting
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