Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 244： What To Expect In The Primaries

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:16.260 I mean, every day you're out there, what they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:22.640 If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians

00:00:27.780 get total control and total power.

00:00:30.660 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:32.460 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:33.660 It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:38.760 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:41.040 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:42.960 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.

00:00:46.500 War Room Battleground.

00:00:48.680 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:53.820 All right.

00:00:54.780 Well, as you can see, Jack Posobiec here sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:01:00.000 While Steve is off fighting the regime once more.

00:01:04.460 But fortunately for all of us here in the audience that I've got sitting next to me,

00:01:10.200 riding shotgun as well, the beautiful and lovely Tanya Tay Posobiec.

00:01:14.720 Sweetheart, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:01:16.320 Thank you for having me.

00:01:17.260 So when you woke up this morning, you didn't even know that you were going to be hosting,

00:01:20.660 did you?

00:01:21.340 Well, what I've realized in our marriage is every time I wake up is a new day full of

00:01:25.920 adventures with you.

00:01:26.880 I did promise.

00:01:27.520 And I never know.

00:01:28.280 I did promise that it would never be boring, that it would never once be boring.

00:01:33.680 And have I kept that promise?

00:01:35.160 Every single day.

00:01:37.880 Every single day.

00:01:38.940 Yeah.

00:01:39.420 When, you know, when we're not having people show up outside of our house screaming.

00:01:42.500 Just kidding.

00:01:43.040 Just kidding.

00:01:43.580 It never happens.

00:01:44.220 Never happened.

00:01:44.960 But wanted to get into the news.

00:01:47.360 But because we have here, Richard Barris, the people's pundit.

00:01:51.820 Now, Richard and I haven't spoken in a little while, but we're getting closer to the primary

00:01:58.440 season.

00:01:59.020 We've got a couple of candidates that have kicked off.

00:02:01.920 And I wanted to bring Richard on to kind of explain to us what he's looking at and what

00:02:07.660 the what the big data poll is looking at in terms of the electorate right now.

00:02:11.700 Do we have Richard?

00:02:12.680 Yes.

00:02:14.680 Richard, are you up?

00:02:16.400 Sure am, buddy.

00:02:17.360 How you been?

00:02:19.760 Been great.

00:02:20.760 How are you, my friend?

00:02:22.360 Living the dream as always.

00:02:23.720 It's good to good to be back on.

00:02:25.800 And hello, Tanya.

00:02:26.720 It's lovely to see you.

00:02:27.740 Laura says hello.

00:02:30.500 Great to see you.

00:02:31.620 And say hi for me, too.

00:02:33.700 So, Richard, I wanted to get into this because we've seen a lot of these polls out there lately.

00:02:40.080 I'm sure you've seen them as well.

00:02:42.080 We're looking at the primary field.

00:02:44.700 Pretty much all of them at this point are including DeSantis, even though he has not

00:02:49.600 announced.

00:02:50.000 I think there's kind of a will he, won't he sort of situation going on right there.

00:02:54.360 But certainly people are including him.

00:02:56.360 He's doing numbers.

00:02:57.280 The Washington Post just had a huge story yesterday saying that if you look at the numbers for

00:03:02.900 where Trump and DeSantis are, they're both in that line of where you've seen a lot of

00:03:08.160 people go on to eventually win the nomination, you've also seen other candidates out there

00:03:12.660 like Nikki Haley, who's thrown her hat in.

00:03:15.620 Vivek Ramaswamy has thrown his hat in.

00:03:18.200 Another name who will be speaking later this week at CPAC is Mike Pompeo.

00:03:22.400 I think there's a lot of questions about him.

00:03:23.860 There's even kind of a sort of buzz around the neocon warmonger John Bolton as well.

00:03:29.700 So I wanted to get your take on what you're seeing with the Republican primary electorate

00:03:35.860 right now in terms of all these polls.

00:03:38.860 Where do things stand?

00:03:40.300 Do you think Trump has it locked up?

00:03:42.440 Or do you think, like the Washington Post is saying, that Republican primary voters are

00:03:47.680 ready to move on from Donald Trump?

00:03:50.780 Yeah, so we are including Mike Pompeo in our polling.

00:03:54.260 We're including, you know, we're not going crazy like some of these other polls where

00:03:57.520 we're just wildly speculating.

00:03:59.240 If there's real talk, Jack, and you know and I know we speak to people, whether something

00:04:03.760 is serious or not, Nikki Haley is in there, Mike Pence is in there, Donald Trump's in there,

00:04:08.940 DeSantis is in there.

00:04:10.020 And look, it's early, but to say that they're ready to move on from Trump is ridiculous.

00:04:18.540 The fact is, we did see him tick down after the midterms, but then he popped right back

00:04:24.200 up, Jack, and he's looking like he's stronger than in any time before.

00:04:28.820 And we also include someone else.

00:04:30.440 So we're gauging, you know, how many people are just not for Trump.

00:04:34.580 But the fact is, he's been in the majority numbers now.

00:04:38.120 So it's early, but it's hard.

00:04:41.200 It's hard to say he's not an early favorite.

00:04:44.440 DeSantis voters are more educated voters.

00:04:47.280 And a Republican primary, and I just want to say this, they're college educated voters.

00:04:52.460 All right, there's a big difference in my mind.

00:04:54.480 And this, and a Republican primary is not dominated by these voters.

00:04:57.640 So, you know, if, uh, if it's working class and Trump is still thumping everybody by 32,

00:05:03.460 35 points, then it will be Donald Trump.

00:05:06.360 Somebody has to pick away the working coalition from Trump.

00:05:09.940 That's it.

00:05:10.540 It really is that simple.

00:05:11.600 So when you, when you're looking at this in terms of it, are you doing national electorate

00:05:18.960 or are you going state by state?

00:05:20.340 Are you doing any early States looking at anything like that?

00:05:23.300 We'll do early States fairly soon, but right now we're just looking at the national trend

00:05:27.460 because we want, you know, a couple of months ago, I wanted to get a baseline and we'll have

00:05:30.840 a trend from there.

00:05:31.860 Uh, these early States tend to move with those national numbers.

00:05:35.840 If people remember, uh, Ted Cruz was the state favorite, except for the Seltzer poll.

00:05:41.180 He was the state favorite going into the Iowa caucus, but those national numbers were moving

00:05:45.540 so quickly in 2016 that Trump almost beat him.

00:05:49.220 And he would have beat him if it wasn't for the dirty Carson dropped out trick, which I

00:05:52.520 don't know if everybody remembers, but I can actually, you know, make a strong mathematical

00:05:56.580 argument that Cruz would not have won the Iowa caucus if he didn't pull that dirty trick.

00:06:00.840 And, uh, then obviously by the time we got to New Hampshire, uh, that was Trump's first,

00:06:05.580 uh, pretty big win.

00:06:06.700 He took every County in South Carolina, swept those 50 delegates.

00:06:10.120 So we're looking at the national this early because it really is a good indicator.

00:06:14.080 The States will lag behind, but they will follow the national numbers.

00:06:17.700 The momentum will for the most part, for the most part.

00:06:20.760 Well, and people, by the way, people forget that trick all the way back in an early 2016.

00:06:26.320 This was the first, uh, competition, right?

00:06:28.880 It's not a, it's not a primary, it's a caucus.

00:06:30.380 But there was this, was it, was it a call or was it an email?

00:06:34.620 I remember that went out and then it went out to press and it started getting reported

00:06:38.180 everywhere that Carson had dropped out and that was urging people to vote for Cruz.

00:06:43.840 And it just wasn't true.

00:06:44.780 It wasn't true at all.

00:06:46.480 Yeah, it was both.

00:06:47.460 Uh, it was an email that went out.

00:06:49.140 They were robo calling and for people.

00:06:51.900 Yeah.

00:06:52.400 For people who don't understand the Iowa caucus, uh, you know, Trump had no precinct captains.

00:06:57.200 He had no infrastructure.

00:06:58.800 He just had these like, uh, base, uh, grassroots people unaffiliated with the campaign, making

00:07:04.560 the case at each caucus site.

00:07:06.320 Whereas Cruz had precinct captains, captains, and he had infrastructure and he had people

00:07:11.180 who were associated and knew the Carson people.

00:07:13.600 So he would go out.

00:07:15.120 Carson did not have that whole area covered.

00:07:17.580 And his team went out and basically at last, last minute said, Carson dropped out.

00:07:22.320 He wants you to back Cruz.

00:07:23.660 Uh, and they made that case.

00:07:25.140 And look, it's not just me.

00:07:26.880 Even Karl Rove argued.

00:07:28.920 And of course, Karl Rove was anti-Trump, but even Karl Rove said, look, the math is right.

00:07:33.960 Uh, those who were saying this, uh, are making a legitimate point and it's not, and we're talking

00:07:38.640 about four caucus goers per site.

00:07:40.840 If you just convinced four per site, Jack, uh, it would have been over.

00:07:45.280 So, um, and that was without Trump having any organization.

00:07:48.780 He has an organization this time.

00:07:51.040 So that's important for people to remember.

00:07:52.780 And I was in the first primary contest, you know, he wasn't the favorite last time because

00:07:57.740 he wasn't the traditional conservative, but what issue has dominated the Iowa caucuses

00:08:02.580 since like the eighties, Jack abortion, Roe v. Wade can social conservative values.

00:08:08.660 Trump is the only one who's going to be able to tell the caucus goers in Iowa, they're

00:08:12.960 all making promises.

00:08:14.220 I ended Roe v. 0.98

00:08:15.300 Wade.

00:08:15.680 That's powerful.

00:08:18.900 That's absolutely huge.

00:08:20.220 And I think a lot of people have to remember too, that in 2016, the fact that Trump didn't

00:08:25.940 win that first out of the gate caucus, it was used then to create this narrative that

00:08:32.840 he's never going to reach the threshold for delegates.

00:08:35.760 He's never going to reach the threshold delegate.

00:08:37.760 He's never going to make it to the RNC.

00:08:40.540 And that was, which then, by the way, after he did get there and get there in spades, that

00:08:45.460 was then used to say, well, he'll never make it to 270.

00:08:48.180 He can't get it.

00:08:49.100 He can't win the electorate.

00:08:50.120 There's no path through the electoral college.

00:08:52.120 He's never going to be able to do this.

00:08:53.660 He was able to do that as well.

00:08:55.040 But that was used to create this idea of a horse race and to say that Trump doesn't

00:09:01.400 have it locked up.

00:09:02.680 He just doesn't have it down because they game the system of the Iowa caucus.

00:09:07.720 Now, what I'm going to say, though, is, is do you see that same type of media narrative

00:09:14.020 forming?

00:09:15.240 Because I certainly do.

00:09:16.780 And it's not, by the way, just on the side of the left, because you also have people like

00:09:22.960 Paul Ryan who are now coming out.

00:09:25.400 And we saw this last week or just a couple of days ago, I posted it on Twitter and it

00:09:28.560 went all super viral, where he said that he's not even going to go to the RNC, which is being

00:09:34.540 held in Milwaukee, which is his home state, the state that he represented in Wisconsin

00:09:39.620 one for 20 years.

00:09:42.420 He said that he will boycott the Republican National Convention if Donald J.

00:09:47.800 Trump is the nominee.

00:09:49.280 So you're seeing the same type of the media and the establishment lining up against Trump

00:09:55.760 and the working class.

00:09:57.700 Do you see that same kind of narrative?

00:09:59.740 And I do.

00:10:01.380 And the same strategy.

00:10:02.800 If you remember, Mitt Romney laid it out at that, I believe it was the University of

00:10:05.660 Utah, you know, vote for the strongest candidate in every state.

00:10:09.080 We already see people doing this.

00:10:11.220 And look, you know, this is not to create a fracture between DeSantis's people and Trump's

00:10:15.660 people.

00:10:15.980 But the fact is, DeSantis is being used to be the stronger candidate in Florida.

00:10:20.400 So if you're in South Carolina, Nikki Haley's running.

00:10:23.920 Surprise, surprise.

00:10:25.100 Vote for Nikki Haley. 1.00

00:10:26.420 And this is what they did in 16.

00:10:28.140 They just cobbled together the strategy way too late, Jack.

00:10:31.080 This time it's going to be a little bit more.

00:10:33.140 They have they have had some time and they're going to try to be a little bit more sophisticated

00:10:36.880 with it.

00:10:37.580 But I will tell you this, this idea, you know, I was talking to other pollsters today, earlier

00:10:41.980 today about this.

00:10:43.000 You had the Emerson poll come come out.

00:10:45.160 You have the Harris poll come out.

00:10:46.840 And the reason why is because this other pollster and I'd say same same dynamic, which is that

00:10:52.200 Trump is running stronger.

00:10:54.220 But also, if you look back right now, if depending on the poll you're looking at, whether it's

00:10:59.740 any of them in the console poll, Politico's poll, Trump is performing.

00:11:03.620 He's at a level right now.

00:11:05.280 Again, once again, in a crowded field like it was in 2016.

00:11:08.260 He's at a level that he didn't even achieve in 16.

00:11:12.520 He basically won that primary at 40 to 45 percent of the vote in the polls in the national

00:11:18.940 polls going forward.

00:11:20.160 And that that's true even as late as Wisconsin and Indy where they mounted the fight with

00:11:25.240 Ted Cruz and then Indiana, which ultimately when Ted Cruz lost, that was it.

00:11:29.600 Right.

00:11:29.820 They started at least ease up on this.

00:11:32.100 But yeah, I think that it's the same dynamic.

00:11:34.940 But I mean, The Washington Post is leaving a big part out.

00:11:38.180 He's performing stronger than he ever did in 16.

00:11:41.780 So something has to happen to hurt him.

00:11:44.440 There is an element, though, that wants him to just they tell us that Trump is their number

00:11:49.740 one choice, but they do want Trump to focus on his record.

00:11:54.600 And, you know, we're looking and trying to measure that right now and see where, you know,

00:11:58.060 what what how significant is that?

00:12:00.300 Can it cost him the nomination?

00:12:02.520 But they want him to basically just Grover Cleveland, this puppy, Jack, you know, you

00:12:07.240 ousted me.

00:12:08.460 Everything was going well.

00:12:09.740 I had a great record.

00:12:10.840 You ousted me.

00:12:11.900 The country fell apart exactly how I told you it was going to fall apart.

00:12:15.220 I told you so.

00:12:16.900 I have a record.

00:12:17.840 I got to come back and fix this thing up.

00:12:19.380 Just like Grover Cleveland did, you know, which would be he would if he wins, he would

00:12:24.720 be the second president behind Grover Cleveland to serve two non-consecutive terms like this.

00:12:30.500 I again, I just don't know how much that now part of the electorate is yet steadily, you

00:12:37.640 know, really committed.

00:12:39.020 And that would because those people would be persuadable.

00:12:42.340 I think at this point, Trump's ceiling is pretty high.

00:12:44.960 I mean, his floor is pretty high and something else would have to happen, unlike last time

00:12:50.940 where, you know, he he's got a vulnerability, but it's early.

00:12:56.600 You can't drag on beyond, you know, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

00:13:00.460 You just can't.

00:13:01.380 He'll win like he did last time.

00:13:04.720 Well, and one of the most interesting pieces that I saw in the Washington Post analysis,

00:13:10.800 and it was sort of an analysis of a of the poll of polls.

00:13:13.560 And I think you're also seeing this bear out in the Emerson poll today that came out was

00:13:17.560 that when they asked, they went to the Trump voters and their Trump supporters, and they

00:13:22.600 also went to the DeSantis supporters and they said, who's your second choice?

00:13:26.780 So who's your second choice?

00:13:27.960 So for Trump supporters, pretty much their top second choice was Ron DeSantis.

00:13:33.740 But for all the DeSantis voters or pretty much every single supporter, it was all Donald

00:13:39.780 Trump.

00:13:40.340 And there was actually that clip that was going around on Fox News this morning that

00:13:43.360 basically said that she had the shirt on and she said either or.

00:13:46.360 So with that type of dynamic, does it make sense then?

00:13:50.500 Does Trump want it to be one on one or does he actually perform better?

00:13:55.080 Because then he has the option of being able to go after more of those voters who are looking

00:13:59.460 at him potentially as a second choice or to your point could be persuaded.

00:14:03.640 Yeah, I think it would be and I'm glad you brought that up, that part of the poll up.

00:14:08.460 And it was think about this, too.

00:14:10.080 When they're looking at this poll of polls, I would argue that a lot of those polls are

00:14:13.600 way too educated for a Republican primary.

00:14:16.200 That's why you're seeing really two universes right now.

00:14:18.880 You have us, Harris, Emerson, and then you have some of these other ones that are kind

00:14:22.880 out in left field, even though Fox is too educated, yet Trump still did so well in that

00:14:28.180 poll.

00:14:28.880 If you're anti-Trump, you'd want it to consolidate quickly.

00:14:32.600 If you're Trump, you'd rather it be fractured for a while.

00:14:35.880 But here's here's the real hidden gem that nobody wants to say and you will not hear about

00:14:40.740 in the media.

00:14:41.500 We're including a question among Trump voters.

00:14:44.420 And really, it's everyone.

00:14:45.260 The difference is with Trump voters.

00:14:48.340 If your guy does not win, will you vote at all in the fall?

00:14:52.020 Because there's this massive chunk of Trump voters who just aren't going to vote Republican.

00:14:57.480 They're not going to vote at all, Jack.

00:14:59.460 Let me just leave everybody with this, you know, a little food for thought, something to

00:15:04.120 marinate on.

00:15:05.240 2016, we saw something that was unusual.

00:15:09.160 This Obama coalition, Bernie coalition even come out and vote for a Republican candidate.

00:15:14.040 In 2018, they just completely stayed home.

00:15:16.960 In 2020, we saw again, not only them, but more come into the electorate.

00:15:21.960 And then in 2022, they stayed home.

00:15:24.320 So one of my main questions right now is if Trump was not to get the nomination, how many

00:15:30.440 of these voters would not vote, period?

00:15:32.680 Because I'm convinced.

00:15:33.740 I mean, I think anyone who's being honest has to admit that there is a vote block that

00:15:39.700 will come out for Trump that will not come out for a Republican.

00:15:42.580 The counter argument to that is, well, he brings out Democrats, too.

00:15:46.880 Ladies and gentlemen, no matter whom, who is the nominee on the Republican side, Democrats

00:15:51.060 are going to mail their ballots in, you know, like wink, wink, mail their ballots in.

00:15:54.760 Those ballots are coming.

00:15:56.520 So you better make sure you get as many voters to the polls to counter them as possible.

00:16:00.680 And I'm going to have a good idea by, you know, you know, not even by the end of this

00:16:04.840 thing, Jack.

00:16:05.320 I mean, the point is to try to gauge this early because I'm thinking it's it's 20, 30 percent.

00:16:11.140 It's huge.

00:16:11.940 There are just a ton of Trump voters who say it's Trump.

00:16:14.920 And that's it.

00:16:15.760 And Richard, you know, and sweetheart, you can mention this as well, because, look, we've

00:16:21.180 been up to we were in central Pennsylvania recently and we were in western Pennsylvania.

00:16:25.780 We went up to do a little skiing on the weekend.

00:16:28.520 I've got a I've got a skier here, someone who is very interested, loves it, actually fell

00:16:33.340 in love with it, fell in love with it a couple of years ago.

00:16:35.860 So we were so we went up.

00:16:37.760 We were in western PA and then we were up in Harrisburg recently.

00:16:41.220 But tell us, what were the signs that we saw on every single house when we were driving

00:16:47.800 around up in Pennsylvania those last two weekends?

00:16:50.120 So the area of Pennsylvania where we were at, there's not much of a highway to say.

00:16:55.340 And some of the little towns that we were passing by, they had huge, just those giant Trump

00:17:01.620 24 banners.

00:17:03.100 And if I had to take a pick, I would say that majority of this little town will be voting

00:17:09.440 Donald J.

00:17:10.440 Trump.

00:17:10.760 Right.

00:17:10.940 They still they already have him up.

00:17:12.660 We're what, 18 months, 20 months away from the election.

00:17:15.580 They've got Trump 2024.

00:17:17.160 Some have Trump 2020.

00:17:18.420 Some have Trump won.

00:17:19.700 Richard, I've never seen.

00:17:21.040 And have you seen anything like this in American politics?

00:17:23.980 This idea that in these key parts of the Rust Belt that and it's the same story in West

00:17:31.400 Michigan.

00:17:31.820 It's the same story, of course, we just saw East Palestine, that they even out of office,

00:17:37.480 they're still going for this guy.

00:17:40.860 They still have this connection.

00:17:43.480 I don't think there's anything been like this since the start of American, at least modern

00:17:48.520 political history.

00:17:50.100 Modern political history.

00:17:51.360 If it's been around, we weren't alive for it.

00:17:53.980 Like if there's another example, we were not alive for this.

00:17:56.880 And, you know, we're in our own area.

00:17:59.680 There's certain parts of even other battleground states like Florida, North Carolina, where,

00:18:04.680 you know, I think a Republican candidate is going to do well in Florida.

00:18:07.200 It's not going to be Republican plus 20, folks.

00:18:09.300 So don't get your hopes up there.

00:18:10.480 In a presidential cycle, Florida will narrow again.

00:18:13.520 Although I think Florida is Republican at this point.

00:18:16.540 But, you know, you look at some of these other states that are getting really close, Jack,

00:18:20.400 and, you know, by us, for instance, there are these working class Hispanics.

00:18:24.540 They haven't, you know, there are dumpsters all over the place because they're putting

00:18:27.360 up houses and they haven't stopped spray painting the dumpsters Trump, you know.

00:18:32.520 And on one side, it's like Trump won.

00:18:34.880 The other side is like, now we're getting close.

00:18:36.840 And you're North Carolina.

00:18:37.800 That's North Carolina.

00:18:39.080 And these are like Guatemalans and Mexicans, you know, like these are working class Hispanics. 0.84

00:18:45.700 If you go up to them and you ask them whether they'll vote for anybody else, there is no

00:18:50.700 chance.

00:18:51.620 And I'll let you in on a little thing we're going to be talking more about.

00:18:55.800 In the polling that we did in 2022, looking back at Laxol, we had Lombardo winning by about

00:19:01.340 a point and a half, two points.

00:19:02.540 He won.

00:19:03.280 But Laxol fell shy.

00:19:04.940 We did not have Lombardo up by five like some other people.

00:19:07.900 I mean, Laxol by five by some other people.

00:19:10.060 But we did think Laxol was going to inch it out.

00:19:12.520 Looking back at why Laxol and Lombardo had close races versus and it's not just Nevada,

00:19:19.420 it's everywhere.

00:19:20.800 Why Trump was pulling so far ahead of these other candidates, it's urban and and then the

00:19:27.560 rural.

00:19:28.220 He squeezes more out of rural voters as well.

00:19:30.640 But these non-white working class urban voters.

00:19:34.460 So in Clark County, we had Lombardo down by about five.

00:19:38.280 That's what happened.

00:19:39.140 But Trump was up by three in Clark County in our polling.

00:19:42.860 In Washoe, it was about even Lombardo just eked it out.

00:19:45.960 We had Trump up by eight.

00:19:47.580 Why?

00:19:48.000 It's not white voters in Reno.

00:19:49.680 These are working class non-white voters.

00:19:52.420 And I shared the polling with you in Pennsylvania.

00:19:54.600 Even when we thought Oz could eke it out a little bit, he was nowhere near Trump who was

00:19:59.120 up by seven.

00:19:59.880 Why?

00:20:00.680 Because of non-white and other white voters in Allegheny, where Oz did bad. 0.99

00:20:05.860 Trump was at like 45 percent.

00:20:08.300 So, you know, these voters, you know, it's just a big question in my mind.

00:20:12.900 I think it's one of the most important questions this cycle, which is if Trump doesn't get the

00:20:17.780 nomination, if he's the favorite right now.

00:20:19.760 But if he doesn't get it, how bad would this hurt the inevitable candidate?

00:20:23.000 Those voters, will they vote?

00:20:25.160 I think the answer right now, Jack, is no.

00:20:27.400 And, you know, coming out of 2020, you know, just hearing from these people and polling

00:20:32.460 them, you know, well in what, two years, I don't know what somebody who's not a Trump

00:20:38.300 could do to get them to vote.

00:20:40.360 These are people who are either new to the process and are inspired by him, or they're

00:20:45.220 really old to the process and quit a long time ago because they felt like their vote

00:20:49.800 just didn't matter.

00:20:50.860 I think Harrisburg, Juniata County, areas like that in Pennsylvania, those are like

00:20:55.540 perfect examples of those voters who just maybe after Bush v.

00:20:59.440 Gore just said, that's it, I'm done, you know.

00:21:02.260 So they've been there.

00:21:03.660 They just didn't have much vote history.

00:21:06.440 And now they do.

00:21:07.520 And then you have a lot of these newly naturalized, especially Hispanic men who would vote for

00:21:13.060 Trump, but would not, would not.

00:21:15.040 Obviously, even though they told us if they were going to vote, they probably would have voted

00:21:19.560 for Laxalt, but they didn't.

00:21:22.100 If it was a presidential cycle, they would have voted.

00:21:24.840 And we saw this, by the way, even in the Central Valley in California.

00:21:28.840 So it's real.

00:21:30.360 It's a big problem for Republicans, Jack.

00:21:32.500 Big problem.

00:21:34.800 Look, I think it's huge.

00:21:35.920 And it's something where I, and I've said this and President Trump has retweeted or

00:21:40.760 retruthed, whatever you want to say, my proposal for this, to say that you need to have, if you're

00:21:46.020 in a state that allows ballot harvesting, allows the drop boxes, you got to get in the

00:21:49.760 game.

00:21:50.260 You have to put these in the back of every church.

00:21:52.560 You got to have them on every Sunday that's there.

00:21:54.780 If there's a, you know, if there's a gun show, shooting range at the racetrack, you know,

00:22:02.700 all of these things, you've got to be able to find the voters where they are.

00:22:06.420 Because, by the way, and I say this as a son of Pennsylvania, that in the state of Pennsylvania,

00:22:12.460 because, and I'm just going to put it out there, and as political prognosticators, we

00:22:17.000 have to talk about this, that there is a very good chance that Fetterman's seat could come

00:22:23.820 up in 2024.

00:22:26.900 There is a good chance just because, look, the medical issues are what they are.

00:22:30.900 And my, you know, my heart goes out to him and the family.

00:22:33.080 But it is what it is, and under Pennsylvania law, that the current governor, Josh Shapiro,

00:22:38.660 would only have the ability to appoint someone until the next general election.

00:22:44.200 When is that?

00:22:45.300 2024.

00:22:46.280 There's also Casey's seat, which is coming up, and there's some rumblings out there,

00:22:49.640 by the way, that I don't know if everybody knows this, but there's some rumblings that

00:22:53.040 Bob Casey might not go up for re-election.

00:22:56.280 So that Casey name that basically gave him immortality and vulnerability in Pennsylvania, now you have

00:23:02.960 two potentially open seats, or, you know, if Shapiro appoints like a Conor Lamb, he'd be running for a

00:23:09.320 full term in his own right, or excuse me, he'd be running for the final two years and then have to run

00:23:13.960 in two years again, like Ossoff.

00:23:15.720 So you might have a chance where at Pennsylvania, you've got all those electoral votes that are on

00:23:20.700 the table, plus two Senate seats, which, by the way, would swing the Senate all on the ballot

00:23:26.800 on one year in a presidential cycle.

00:23:30.400 I think you're going to see a ton in Pennsylvania.

00:23:33.760 Yeah, Jack, we call it the Keystone State for a reason, right?

00:23:37.060 I mean, really.

00:23:38.400 That's right.

00:23:38.640 And it could be always important, but it could be, it's always important, but it could be even that much more

00:23:44.800 important.

00:23:45.600 I'm with you 100% on that.

00:23:47.480 People always ask me all the time, how do we counter this ballot harvesting?

00:23:50.720 The fact of the matter is, you counter it.

00:23:52.500 The best thing you could do about shenanigans or harvests of, you know, operations that are

00:23:57.100 legitimate is to reduce the size of the remaining outstanding ballot count.

00:24:02.880 That's the, and how can you do that?

00:24:04.280 Chase ballot yourself.

00:24:05.820 That's the best way to do it.

00:24:07.140 You know, we did speak to a lot of people who did a really good job last year doing that.

00:24:10.820 Mark Molinaro in New York, his campaign was all about nudging, you know, those votes out

00:24:15.780 there.

00:24:16.380 I think California got lucky.

00:24:17.760 I'm not giving them praise like so many other people do.

00:24:20.180 They did not get lucky.

00:24:21.560 They got a very white turnout and a very slow, a very low turnout.

00:24:25.840 Again, when you look at places like the Central Valley where Democrats harvest, some of those 0.52

00:24:30.520 Republicans are in deep, deep trouble.

00:24:32.980 They will lose their races if Hispanics come out and they don't have a reason to vote Republican 1.00

00:24:37.960 up and down the ballot.

00:24:39.720 And just that's something, food for, more food for thought.

00:24:42.340 So they didn't bring themselves to go to the polls and vote Democrat before, even with Democrats

00:24:48.160 trying to harvest their ballots.

00:24:49.540 But they still were not given a reason to vote Republican with the candidates, some of those

00:24:56.200 candidates that Kevin McCarthy backed him and put on the ballot.

00:24:59.740 They just, it did.

00:25:00.780 It wasn't enough.

00:25:01.560 It didn't sell them.

00:25:02.680 In 2024, these are people who do have presidential cycle vote history.

00:25:07.580 They will come out and they'll make a decision one way or the other.

00:25:11.200 If you don't give them a reason to vote Republican at the top, chances are you're not going to

00:25:16.560 give them one to vote at the bottom as well.

00:25:18.580 So you could be looking at David Valadeo, Mike Garcia, definitely John Duarte, just all going

00:25:24.360 down.

00:25:25.060 Duarte won by like 400 votes in a majority Hispanic district where 50.8% turnout occurred, Jack.

00:25:32.480 And it was 70 plus, 70 plus percent white.

00:25:36.360 Richard, we are coming up, coming up on our, uh, coming up on our final minute with you.

00:25:42.120 What, um, where can people go to follow you?

00:25:44.180 What are you going to be looking at ahead?

00:25:45.560 Yeah, we're going to be doing that, uh, public.

00:25:49.160 It's going to be a public poll, a nomination poll real soon, Monday, Wednesday, Monday, Wednesday

00:25:53.360 and Fridays, noon to 12 is inside the numbers, but the best place to follow us, Jack.

00:25:57.560 And what we're doing is on locals, peoples, pundit.locals.com.

00:26:01.260 And you could just see everything that's going on from there.

00:26:04.540 Follow it all from there.

00:26:05.880 Richard Barris.

00:26:06.680 Thank you so much for being with us.

00:26:08.120 The people's pundit.

00:26:09.840 Any, any message for Laura, by the way?

00:26:11.620 Well, my, uh, my best wishes to the whole family and I just hope to see her soon.

00:26:18.580 Yeah.

00:26:19.120 We'll see you soon, my friend.

00:26:20.580 And, and, and, and strap in because we have a lot of work, Richard, we're going to be leaning

00:26:25.340 on you a lot over these next 20 months through the primary, going through that cycle all the

00:26:32.020 way to Milwaukee in 2024 in the summertime, you and I will go get cheese curds together.

00:26:36.020 And then of course, all the way out to, well, I'm not going to, I'm not going, I'm not going

00:26:40.520 to Milwaukee and not getting cheese curds.

00:26:42.280 You know that.

00:26:42.940 Of course.

00:26:43.500 You'll have to bring some home with you as well.

00:26:45.780 Yeah.

00:26:46.040 No, I'm going to have them and then I'm going to bring them home and Kyle Rittenhouse is

00:26:48.780 going to be there too.

00:26:49.380 And it's going to be great.

00:26:52.040 Epic.

00:26:53.160 Looking forward to it, guys.

00:26:54.460 We're all going.

00:26:55.880 We're all going.

00:26:56.420 All right, Richard.

00:26:56.920 We'll see you there, my friend.

00:26:58.180 Folks, stay tuned because we have an update from Ukraine coming up next with the great Jordan

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00:30:11.360 WAR ROOM BATTLEGROUND WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

00:30:21.560 After the war, like, what's its own of growth?

00:30:26.920 Also, what NATO allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member of our alliance, but

00:30:33.220 at the same time, that is a long-term perspective.

00:30:35.920 What is the issue now is to ensure that Ukraine prevail as a sovereign independent nation,

00:30:43.420 and therefore we need to support Ukraine.

00:30:45.380 I see that the future of Ukraine is to be part of European Union and also member of NATO.

00:30:54.540 We have taken many steps forward when it comes to military aid to Ukraine, and I'm very glad

00:31:00.280 that we are now cooperating together much more closely to give Ukraine more heavy weapons.

00:31:07.640 I think the discussion now, even though it's have taken some time, it's been very important

00:31:14.380 concerning, for example, the Leopards.

00:31:17.280 So countries are cooperating together more closely and more widely, and this is a very good thing.

00:31:24.140 We have to support Ukraine as long as it takes, and they also need more heavy weapons.

00:31:29.820 And the faster and the sooner we can give them more heavy weapons, the sooner the war will end.

00:31:35.760 And this is something that we also need, that cooperation between the democratic countries.

00:31:42.140 Finland has taken many decisions on arms support to Ukraine, and we are willing to continue this 1.00

00:31:48.140 as long as it takes.

00:31:49.340 The Ukrainian government is one of the worst in the world, corrupt, controlled by a few rich people.

00:32:04.040 I mean, really unfortunate for the people in Ukraine.

00:32:08.120 Ukraine has better agricultural land than the United States does.

00:32:13.440 I mean, it is the breadbasket of Europe.

00:32:16.160 It's an incredible location.

00:32:18.080 All right, Bill Gates there saying that the government of Ukraine is one of the most corrupt

00:32:25.740 in the world.

00:32:26.840 And then you got Sultenberg from NATO saying that we absolutely must bring Ukraine in,

00:32:33.420 that it will be a member of NATO, which of course we're told is one of the things that

00:32:37.680 started this entire conflict over and over because Russia does not want Ukraine, this buffer 0.90

00:32:43.600 state, this formerly neutral country, to be part of NATO.

00:32:47.180 And of course, you've got the Prime Minister of Finland say that we're going to do everything

00:32:49.940 that it takes.

00:32:50.800 We're going to do everything that it takes to continue this war. 0.59

00:32:54.720 Well, to help explain all of this, because I think it's confusing for so many people, especially

00:33:00.380 people who have family and friends that are in the region or from the region and understand

00:33:06.740 the history of horrific warfare that's going on in this theater, I wanted to bring on Jordan 1.00

00:33:12.560 Choctel, the publisher of the dossier on Substack, who has been just an absolute expert on Ukraine.

00:33:19.540 And Jordan, I don't know, have you ever actually agreed with Bill Gates before?

00:33:23.860 Is this a first for you?

00:33:26.400 This has to be a first.

00:33:28.220 And Tanya and Jack, thanks for having me.

00:33:29.580 Yeah, thank you.

00:33:32.620 So break it down for us.

00:33:34.320 Why is it that on one hand, you've got a guy like Bill Gates, of all people, coming out

00:33:39.100 saying that this is one of the most corrupt governments, but then also, at the same time,

00:33:43.320 the head of NATO is saying they will be made a member, they're going to be brought in as

00:33:47.240 a member, when of course, corruption is one of the things that they look for when it comes

00:33:51.700 to EU membership, NATO membership, etc.

00:33:53.520 Yeah, and this whole idea that in the middle of fighting a war, that we're somehow going

00:34:00.940 to also wage this battle to make Ukraine a more transparent place, like this is the worst

00:34:06.620 possible time when they have so much, I mean, they shouldn't have leverage against us.

00:34:11.580 But the reality is that, you know, this administration is just giving everything to them that they

00:34:15.840 want, that they requested.

00:34:17.540 You know, the hearing today in Congress was all about sending them F-16s.

00:34:22.580 Soon we can get their pilots trained on these sophisticated fourth generation platforms

00:34:28.560 that they've never even seen before that, you know, they can't even read the language.

00:34:32.740 So it's going to be an uphill battle to get transparency.

00:34:36.620 One of the, some of the reports that are coming out of Ukraine are fascinating.

00:34:41.040 Of course, they've integrated like these fascist militias into their special forces, because,

00:34:46.420 you know, how can you blame them?

00:34:47.300 They're fighting a war, but that's a whole separate issue.

00:34:49.960 So you have this issue of extremists obtaining our weapons.

00:34:54.620 You also have this issue of there's no real accounting process there.

00:34:59.940 Their military high ranking officials write, as of recently, have been writing paper receipts

00:35:06.580 when they get our weapons.

00:35:08.260 And now Colin Call, one of the top defense officials in the U.S. and the Biden administration, close

00:35:16.500 advisor to Joe Biden himself, said that they've actually now exported scanners to Ukraine so

00:35:22.480 they can scan in these munitions now when they get them.

00:35:26.040 So they're very positive that there's going to be some type of transparency.

00:35:30.320 But I totally agree with Bill Gates on this issue, that there's no way we're going to fix the

00:35:36.180 corruption in Ukraine, especially in the middle of a war that is that is capturing everyone's

00:35:42.120 attention right now.

00:35:44.740 Well, you've written quite extensively about the the oligarchs in Ukraine.

00:35:50.520 We hear about the oligarchs of Russia all the time.

00:35:52.840 Some are some are pro most or pro Putin.

00:35:55.060 But you also have these sort of like anti Putin oligarchs that are mostly outside of

00:35:58.940 Russia. But we suddenly stopped hearing completely about the oligarchs of Ukraine.

00:36:04.240 And I've certainly reported on this quite a bit.

00:36:06.960 What is the status of them right now?

00:36:09.160 Because you had an interesting piece up the other day where you said you look reading the

00:36:13.920 tea leaves that you didn't think that Russia was a country that was ripe for a coup, but

00:36:18.280 potentially Zelensky might be looking at one himself.

00:36:21.100 Yeah, our corporate press has been on a spin campaign on overdrive in recent weeks and

00:36:29.500 months because Zelensky or whoever is directing him has been firing basically every single

00:36:36.640 high ranking member in Kiev, every member of their bureaucracy, you know, the deputy minister

00:36:44.340 of everything. The the the three top ranking officials in the minister, ministry of the

00:36:50.740 interior interior department, which is significant position.

00:36:54.820 They recently died in a helicopter crash over Kiev.

00:36:58.300 So there's all this weird stuff happening just Sunday.

00:37:02.900 Zelensky fired his top general who was responsible for commanding the joint forces in Ukraine.

00:37:08.760 He's gone, hasn't really given an excuse to what exactly is going on.

00:37:13.080 And we know through his public bickering with particularly Klitschko, you know, the former

00:37:20.740 boxing champion, who's the mayor of Kiev, that Zelensky is very well aware of the reality that

00:37:26.160 there are people who are trying to usurp his political position.

00:37:31.460 Yeah. Zelensky, of course, is very influential with his foreign backers.

00:37:35.980 But domestically, the situation is getting more and more dicey, whereas in Russia, it's

00:37:41.660 the exact opposite situation.

00:37:43.640 Unfortunately, the polling in Russia isn't great, but there's an independent pollster called

00:37:47.240 the Levada Center, which is recognized by the West as an independent pollster.

00:37:52.400 And they have Putin's approval rating at 82 percent.

00:37:54.740 So I don't think that Putin should really fear so much of a coup, even though the Western

00:38:00.160 presses and Western officials are insisting that is the case.

00:38:04.220 I think it's much more likely that Zelensky's internal political position of power is certainly

00:38:12.580 in play and will continue to be so as the fog of war kind of clears, as this honeymoon period

00:38:19.640 continues to drift away as all these hundreds of billions of dollars continue to enter Ukraine.

00:38:27.200 And Ukraine is seemingly not capable of pushing back these Russian offenses in areas where the 0.89

00:38:34.200 population seems to be not so hostile to Russia.

00:38:37.840 So he's got a lot in his plate.

00:38:40.060 And there are certainly going to be opposing forces within the country that Zelensky's foreign supporters

00:38:49.220 might not be able to handle so easily.

00:38:54.100 Well, I think that's right.

00:38:54.960 And I think everyone should remember that Zelensky's main opponent, or for folks who aren't

00:39:00.600 aware of this, when he ran for president, was the former president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko,

00:39:07.020 who is an oligarch in his own right.

00:39:09.720 He's actually known for confectionaries.

00:39:12.120 They call him the chocolate man.

00:39:13.680 And this idea that he is, by the way, still a member of the Rada, which is Ukrainian parliament.

00:39:21.080 And so he still wields a strong amount of political power.

00:39:24.800 So could be a potential rival for Zelensky if he's able to gobble up, sort of collect these

00:39:31.300 different various factions that perhaps don't like the fact that Zelensky has been taking

00:39:37.760 this money.

00:39:38.440 And at the end of the day, because we see day after day after day, and not to put you

00:39:44.860 on the spot, but I know that you look at some of the stories that have come out, the families.

00:39:50.580 Does it seem to you like these families that are caught in the middle of this are getting

00:39:54.660 any of this money, all these billions of dollars that are going back and forth?

00:39:58.160 So the topic of Ukraine is probably one of the hardest for me to talk about because I

00:40:03.620 have so many ties to that part of the world.

00:40:06.780 This is where I came from.

00:40:08.320 And looking back at it, I mean, we're looking at a one year mark and God only knows how long

00:40:14.400 this will continue going on.

00:40:16.100 And if you hear about the policies that are being discussed with all the talks from NATO,

00:40:22.160 you know, all the billions of dollars pouring in the country.

00:40:25.120 We are so far from even reaching any agreement or coming to the peace.

00:40:30.700 And I think if you come to the common folk and if you ask them what they want, they don't 1.00

00:40:35.920 want the money.

00:40:36.980 They don't want all the guns pouring in their country.

00:40:39.660 I think they want peace.

00:40:41.560 I think they want their son's home.

00:40:43.580 I think they want their husband's home.

00:40:45.400 I think they want the families who are right now scattered all over the world, speaking million

00:40:50.540 languages, the ones that they don't even understand, having their kids going to schools that are 1.00

00:40:55.680 dictating their rules.

00:40:57.160 I think they just want everybody home in Ukraine. 1.00

00:41:00.820 And I think the main focus should be safe.

00:41:04.580 Definitely safe.

00:41:06.140 And they want to keep the family together because no amount of money can make up for a missing

00:41:12.200 dad, a missing brother, a lack of sons by their mother's side.

00:41:16.800 So for the people of Ukraine, and if we really talk about what the people of Ukraine want,

00:41:23.140 we need to approach them and not just listen to all the politicians who are interested in

00:41:29.000 the money aspect of it, because money is power, is influence.

00:41:33.640 And what the common people want, they want peace and they want prosperity of their home

00:41:39.780 and they want to be in their countries.

00:41:43.160 Wow.

00:41:44.640 Tell us how you really feel.

00:41:46.260 Tell us how you really feel.

00:41:47.560 Just my few, you know, sets on this.

00:41:49.240 Just a couple ideas.

00:41:50.780 I'd be holding up on that one.

00:41:52.500 But Jordan, that's exactly right, because prior to all of this, this war, it's exactly what

00:41:59.280 Bill Gates said that I think Zelensky, the main thing people knew him for was the Panama

00:42:03.640 Papers.

00:42:04.100 Yeah, yeah, it's, you know, Tanya makes a great point that, especially in Ukraine, it's

00:42:12.120 a country that's very divided, but we only hear really one perspective.

00:42:16.260 And that's because Zelensky has basically eliminated the media and political opposition through

00:42:23.420 orders of fiat, where he just says that he has the power because of martial law and he's

00:42:29.280 shutting down your TV station or he's imprisoning his political opponents.

00:42:33.820 And this is the fight for democracy they're supposedly having.

00:42:37.420 But yet, I mean, the oligarch situation in Ukraine, along with many post-Soviet countries,

00:42:43.560 is unfortunately brutal.

00:42:44.920 And there are a lot of people responsible for that situation occurring.

00:42:49.700 And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Bill Gates is exactly right.

00:42:52.520 You know, this is a land with extremely rich resources, yet extreme poverty.

00:43:00.280 And if you think that U.S. aid is going to the individual Ukrainian citizens, I would point 0.96

00:43:07.380 you to the $2.3 trillion that was allocated to Afghanistan and all of these reports from

00:43:15.080 rights organizations where the children are starving in Afghanistan.

00:43:19.920 So where did all the money go?

00:43:21.420 You think this $100 billion every single year that's going to Ukraine is going to feed families?

00:43:27.560 Sadly, no.

00:43:28.520 It seems that it's just going to support the war effort to pay off bureaucrats to make

00:43:34.760 sure they're on sides.

00:43:36.360 But the people who always get screwed in these wars is the average citizen and the average

00:43:41.640 family that's not politically connected.

00:43:43.460 And it's kind of just the global theme of intercontinental conflict with these great powers.

00:43:55.660 Well, I think that's exactly right.

00:43:57.300 And at the same time, we also have to remember there are people back in the United States that

00:44:01.160 are making money off of this.

00:44:02.520 There's been some reporting that your good friend and mine, Colonel, Colonel, Colonel, Colonel,

00:44:09.200 Colonel Alexander Vindman, is hanging a shingle out there with him and his brother.

00:44:15.120 And they want to create a defense contracting company that's going to be doing logistics to

00:44:19.620 try to make money off of the middle piece of this, because you're going to have all this

00:44:23.520 American equipment going over their tanks and other vehicles that are potentially going

00:44:27.360 over maybe even M-16s as well.

00:44:29.300 And who's going to do the maintenance on them?

00:44:30.980 Who's going to be able to do that?

00:44:32.220 You can't train somebody to learn how to fix one of these things just in the middle of

00:44:36.380 the war while you're fighting this.

00:44:37.680 And you haven't done any training on it before.

00:44:39.060 The Bradley fighting vehicles, the strikers, et cetera, that they're talking about bringing

00:44:42.280 over.

00:44:42.660 So what does Zelensky want to do?

00:44:43.900 Or excuse me, what does Vindman want to do?

00:44:46.840 He wants to go and set up Americans, bring veterans over, defense contract. 0.91

00:44:51.040 This is the same type of mission creep that happened in Afghanistan.

00:44:56.400 And prior to that, it happened in Vietnam.

00:44:58.460 Well, suddenly now there's Americans there that are veterans.

00:45:01.400 And then, oh, what happens if one of those veterans get hit?

00:45:03.480 Because if you set up one of these centers, what do you think the Russians are going to

00:45:06.140 strike first, right?

00:45:07.000 They're not going to go for each tank, but if they can take out the place, they build it.

00:45:09.980 Look, it is mission creep.

00:45:11.020 Jordan, fantastic points today.

00:45:13.780 Let us know, where can people go to follow you to get more information?

00:45:18.100 Yeah, you can find all of my work over at the dossier at Substack, dossier.substack.com.

00:45:24.680 So much appreciate having conversations with you guys.

00:45:27.160 Always good times.

00:45:30.620 Now, incredible.

00:45:31.700 Jordan Schochtel, everyone, I urge everyone to go and check out the dossier, check out

00:45:36.440 his work.

00:45:37.060 Appreciate it.

00:45:37.380 We'll have to have you on and certainly have you on for Human Events Daily as well sometime.

00:45:42.020 Absolutely.

00:45:42.900 Thanks.

00:45:43.200 All right.

00:45:46.680 And that really is, I think, one of the biggest pieces.

00:45:49.500 And I appreciate you saying that, dear, is that, you know, I think in all of these cases

00:45:54.680 that you're right there, you know, and look, I look at it from a military perspective, you

00:45:59.460 know, what's, is Bakhmut going to be encircled?

00:46:02.260 Is Soledar going to fall?

00:46:04.140 What's next?

00:46:04.940 What's going on in Odessa?

00:46:06.420 Is Transnistria going to kick off? 0.87

00:46:07.840 But at the same time, there are people, little people, the regular people, the normal people,

00:46:13.040 the Lao Baixing, the deplorables that are just caught up in the middle of all of this 0.97

00:46:17.520 that they never get asked, do they?

00:46:20.960 They really don't.

00:46:22.880 They just got handed a decision that right now this is what's happening without even being

00:46:29.620 heard.

00:46:30.880 They've been, many of them have no choice but to flee the country because they don't want

00:46:34.700 to get caught in fire, they fear for their life.

00:46:38.900 And I think what those people really want is to live in their houses, you know, go to

00:46:46.280 their schools, not have to worry about speaking another language.

00:46:51.840 Ukrainian people are literally being stripped of their national identity when they're being

00:46:56.600 sent all over the world as refugees where nobody speaks their language.

00:47:01.280 Their kids are not learning their language, where they have close to zero of Ukrainian

00:47:07.420 culture to fall on.

00:47:10.200 We're looking at the destruction of Ukrainian national identity. 0.95

00:47:15.500 And that's that people don't realize that a lot of those people, a lot of those people

00:47:19.800 are just going to just to point out that you're also going to have situations where people

00:47:23.860 leave. 0.99

00:47:25.260 They may not be able to come back.

00:47:26.940 They may not be able to afford to go back.

00:47:28.500 They've got to find work.

00:47:29.420 Now, you don't speak the language if you're in if you're in France, if you're in Germany,

00:47:32.840 if you're in, you know, even even even even with Poland, at least there's there's more

00:47:37.200 there.

00:47:38.540 But but I think you're right.

00:47:39.420 I think that's absolutely true.

00:47:40.860 We do have we have a special guest here.

00:47:43.180 I believe we have Boris.

00:47:44.980 We have Boris on the line.

00:47:47.260 I'm here.

00:47:49.940 Hey, Boris, you're here with Jack and Tanya.

00:47:52.160 Hey, hey.

00:47:53.640 Hey, Jack.

00:47:54.360 Hey, Tanya.

00:47:54.980 How y'all do it?

00:47:55.720 Fantastic.

00:47:58.980 Thanks.

00:47:59.220 Now, we just had we were we were talking to Jordan Chuck tell about Ukraine, but then we

00:48:03.400 were also going through Richard Barris.

00:48:05.640 A lot of these new polls that we're seeing come out of the presidential field.

00:48:09.780 It's early.

00:48:10.680 He says that he thinks Trump is the favorite.

00:48:12.980 You're seeing some you're seeing some support for DeSantis.

00:48:16.060 Obviously, they're coalescing there.

00:48:17.540 But there's also these all these other guys out there.

00:48:20.060 What are you looking at when you see these polls?

00:48:21.800 How do you break them down?

00:48:23.720 Well, the poll that came out today from Emerson is about as close to reality from a mainstream

00:48:29.580 left of center poll.

00:48:30.680 President Trump at fifty five.

00:48:32.580 The governor of Florida is at twenty five.

00:48:35.200 And all the other gnomes are under eight.

00:48:38.060 What's interesting is that Pence and Nikki Haley each group two points from January.

00:48:44.280 And that total of four is what the governor of Florida went down from twenty nine to twenty

00:48:49.940 five.

00:48:50.880 President Trump at fifty five continue to dominate the field, absolutely destroying everybody

00:48:55.860 else.

00:48:56.760 And that's and that's where this race stands.

00:48:58.620 It's not it's not a real contest.

00:49:00.840 The MAGA movement, the Republican Party, the real Republican Party are with President Trump.

00:49:06.000 You saw this even on Fox News this morning.

00:49:07.880 You got Brian Kilmeade at a at a diner in what I believe to be DeSantis district.

00:49:13.820 Trying to go around there.

00:49:15.640 Who do you support?

00:49:16.360 Everybody said Trump.

00:49:17.540 They found one woman and a DeSantis district.

00:49:19.800 She said, oh, I'm not sure.

00:49:21.180 Maybe DeSantis, maybe Trump.

00:49:23.000 The American people with President Trump and the polls are reflecting that he's dominating

00:49:27.620 this race.

00:49:30.940 Now, do you think that's going to stay that way?

00:49:32.460 Do you think any what if what if Pompeo gets in?

00:49:35.380 What if Tim Scott gets in some of these other names?

00:49:37.540 Do you think that'll have any effect whatsoever?

00:49:39.220 Yes, I think the effect that it'll have is it'll make it even clearer how much the American

00:49:45.880 people in our country need Donald Trump, President Donald J. Trump back in the Oval

00:49:50.720 Office.

00:49:51.360 And I think his lead is only going to continue to grow.

00:49:53.720 And you've seen that over the last several months.

00:49:56.120 And again, look at what's still happening.

00:49:58.540 Pence, Nikki Haley, others, they're not pulling for President Donald J. Trump.

00:50:02.320 President Trump continues to go up.

00:50:03.580 They're pulling from DeSantis and others.

00:50:06.420 And it's just it's a competition for second, third, fourth place.

00:50:09.940 That's what would be smart for all these so-called candidates to not get in the race. 0.92

00:50:14.120 Call us behind President Trump and let's go win the White House back. 0.66

00:50:20.200 Do you think that that when, you know, looking at the VP side, that any of these might many

00:50:24.160 of these people might be throwing their hats in because they're looking to actually run

00:50:27.240 for a VP pick, actually looking for that second slot?

00:50:29.800 Maybe yes, maybe no.

00:50:33.060 Jack, I think that's a good question.

00:50:34.400 You never know if it was motivation.

00:50:35.840 Maybe the VP side, maybe it's to sell books, maybe it's to get contracts.

00:50:39.460 But what is absolutely clear is none of them have a shot to be the Republican nominee.

00:50:43.680 That's going to be President Donald J. Trump.

00:50:45.560 And for those who haven't gotten in, they should be thinking long and hard about whether they

00:50:49.280 want to end their political careers and enter the quicksand.

00:50:52.320 Because if you look at 2016, President Trump decimated the Republican establishment before

00:50:58.120 crushing the Democrat establishment.

00:50:59.800 And I don't think any of these candidates...

00:51:01.400 Boris, we're just about...

00:51:03.460 I'm running out of clock here, man.

00:51:05.400 Where can people follow you?

00:51:07.380 Thanks so much.

00:51:08.140 BorisCP.com is the website.

00:51:09.400 HotBorisCP.com.

00:51:10.680 Hot at BorisCP.com.

00:51:11.600 Get it at BorisCP on Twitter.

00:51:12.960 Hot on true social at Boris.

00:51:15.600 And the hottest on the ground, Boris underscore Epstein.

00:51:18.060 Stay strong.

00:51:18.760 God bless.

00:51:19.240 I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:51:22.520 God bless.

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Bannon's War Room - March 01, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 244： What To Expect In The Primaries

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