Bannon's War Room - March 08, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 248： The Lies Of The NeoCon


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In this episode of the Weekly Standard's "The War Room" hosted by Stephan Kambannon, a veteran of the Syrian conflict joins us to talk about the conflict in Syria and how the United States should get involved in it.

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00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:16.200 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:23.960 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in
00:00:29.440 georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and 0.99
00:00:33.860 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:38.140 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
00:00:45.180 your host stephen k bannon americans don't know a single syrian and so people watching this debate
00:00:53.120 might wonder how has it come to be that syria has become the great platform of great power
00:00:59.420 competition in the world begins in 2011 during the arab spring when assad who is undeniably a
00:01:06.060 madman and a despot opens fire on his own people protesting then part of the syrian army defects
00:01:11.880 they engage in warfare against assad and all of a sudden they got a whole lot of weapons and money
00:01:18.300 being sent from the rich gulf monarchies through jordan in to syria so iran's not just going to
00:01:25.600 watch this assad's their ally they activate hezbollah they then invade syria so now you've 0.83
00:01:31.520 got jordan the gulf monarchies iran but wait russia is pitching their vision of the world as a regime
00:01:38.060 preservation force whether you're maduro or assad so they get involved and what do they get for their
00:01:44.140 time a warm water port in the eastern mediterranean so we've got russia the gulf monarchies israel starts to
00:01:50.920 get worried about hezbollah and iran so israel cuts a deal with russia to keep iran out of southern
00:01:56.620 syria and if it doesn't get any worse than that now all of a sudden you've got the kurds who declare
00:02:02.660 war on syria and it makes it a little messy that the kurds are also in conflict with turkey which is
00:02:08.480 a nato ally and then somehow the united states in 2015 says you know what we need to get involved
00:02:15.300 in this mess in syria and since we have been there we have seen americans die we have seen tens of
00:02:21.480 billions of dollars wasted and what is hilarious about the 2001 AUMF that the neoconservatives wave
00:02:28.380 around like some permission slip for every neoconservative fantasy of turning an arabian
00:02:33.220 desert into a jeffersonian democracy is that that very 2001 AUMF would justify attacking the people that
00:02:40.740 we're fighting against and the people we're funding because both have ties to al-qaeda and of course the
00:02:46.120 2001 AUMF dealt with al-qaeda all this talk about a re-emergence of isis i would encourage my colleagues
00:02:52.560 to go read the inspector general's report of the last quarter that indicates that isis is not a threat
00:02:58.040 to the homeland and with the turks conducting operations in syria against isis with assad and
00:03:04.220 russia having every incentive to create pressure on isis i do not believe that what stands between a
00:03:09.500 caliphate and not a caliphate are the 900 americans who have been sent to this hellscape with no
00:03:15.740 definition of victory with no clear objective and purely existing as a vestige to the regime change
00:03:24.320 failed foreign policies of multiple former presidents i reserve the balance of my time and from florida is
00:03:30.140 recognized syria is such a mess we are sometimes five funding both sides in the same battle i seek
00:03:38.720 unanimous consent to introduce into the record la times peace entitled in syria militias armed by the
00:03:44.880 pentagon fight those armed by the cia and so ordered with that i yield two minutes to a veteran
00:03:52.800 also a military spouse of one of our brave patriots who fought in syria my colleague from florida miss
00:03:59.240 luna gentleman from florida has yielded two minutes thank you i just want to start out by saying isis has
00:04:05.220 been destroyed a few hundred troops will not stop the next terrorist.com and that's never going to end
00:04:11.080 and i'm frankly tired of hearing the sentiment on both sides that if we do not fight them there they
00:04:15.880 will come here there are way too many countries to apply that logic and if we are so concerned
00:04:20.920 then why is the majority of the u.s government stagnant on the southern border where it matters
00:04:25.200 terrorists are literally walking in or better yet if that's a true concern then why did we leave
00:04:30.540 billions of dollars in equipment during a botched withdrawal in afghanistan do you really think
00:04:36.260 terrorist.coms aren't going to use that equipment like isis did peace is accomplished through superior
00:04:42.220 firepower strong leadership and a plan not blunders of failed foreign policy literally repeating itself
00:04:48.380 we have zero strategic advantage and zero reason to be in syria in fact they don't even want us there
00:04:54.460 all assad and putin are tight and if you actually check out some of russians uh russia's naval warships
00:05:00.820 they're actually hanging out in the western port of syria what we need to be focusing on is bigger issues
00:05:05.800 like china syria is a very syria is a very dangerous place for us to be leaving a few hundred americans 0.99
00:05:11.600 we are better off sending those troops on j sets to places like south america where we can build stronger
00:05:16.580 and useful allies who will actually work with us make no mistake if we take china at their word 0.97
00:05:22.100 a near-peer fight is coming and it will require 100 of our military and more than the american
00:05:26.920 people are going to pay for it and that is why i support this resolution and if i can also add to
00:05:31.580 those of my colleagues that had mentioned the kurds our nato ally turkey who is not the best nato ally
00:05:37.320 might might i add has deemed them a terrorist organization and after the take back of mosul we
00:05:42.380 actually turned our back on them after promising to recognize them as a nation at the united nations
00:05:47.900 thank you i yield my time thank you mr speaker i yield myself such time as i may consume much of
00:05:53.980 the discussion today is revolved around whether or not withdrawing from syria will ignite some new
00:05:58.940 isis caliphate we've pointed out time and again inspector general's reports saying that that is
00:06:04.060 unlikely but i'm not entirely sure that us having troops in syria deters isis more than it is a
00:06:10.960 recruiting tool for isis moreover president trump said that if russia wanted to kill isis we should
00:06:16.680 let them and i think there is wisdom in that both asad and turkey are in stronger positions today to
00:06:23.540 put downward pressure on isis and maybe if we weren't giving weapons to people shooting at asad 0.94
00:06:28.120 asad would have every incentive to be able to engage isis in a in a way to ensure that it doesn't
00:06:35.320 come back and we have to also acknowledge syria and iraq are the two countries on the planet earth
00:06:42.860 where we have done the most to fund isis we give weapons to these so-called moderate rebels which i
00:06:50.000 actually thought was an oxymoron and it turns out they're not that moderate sometimes the rebels we
00:06:56.120 fund to go fight asad turn around and raise the isis flag and so it's quite silly to be saying we have
00:07:02.280 to withdraw to stop isis when it is our very presence in syria in some cases that has been the
00:07:08.700 best gift to isis there are groups like al-nusra and associated entities that are like our frenemies
00:07:17.220 when they're in syria and then they cross over the border into a rock and they become full-fledged
00:07:22.760 jihadists posing a so-called threat to the homeland there are 1500 different groups in syria so today's
00:07:30.600 friend is tomorrow's isis and there's no real clear delineation as to what the enduring defeat of isis
00:07:37.600 means like do we have to keep 900 americans in syria until the last heartbeat stops of the last
00:07:45.500 person who holds some sympathy for isis i would certainly hope not it would mean we would have 1.00
00:07:51.820 to be there forever israel has made their their deal with russia to be protected the kurds have
00:07:57.780 made their peace with assad to be protected and what we see among this quagmire is there's really not
00:08:03.680 a role for the united states of america in syria we are not a middle eastern power we have tried this
00:08:09.180 time and again to build a democracy out of sand and blood and arab militias and time and again the 1.00
00:08:16.920 work we do does not reduce chaos oftentimes it causes chaos the very chaos that then subsequently
00:08:23.780 leads to terrorism my colleagues my staff who've served in syria my constituents tell me that often
00:08:29.300 these anti-isis raids are just raids of local thugs and drug dealers who have some cousin that's in
00:08:35.320 isis and it is not appropriate to put americans at risk often our americans are guarding these oil
00:08:43.780 fields where the iranians are sending kamikaze drones and i am shocked that we have not had escalatory
00:08:51.100 accident or even more casualties for our u.s service members and so if this is all one big georgetown
00:08:58.500 school of foreign service essay exam about great power competition in syria you go tell that to
00:09:04.860 the parents of the americans who have to sleep tonight in syria who have to guard oil fields with
00:09:11.300 iranian drones coming at them that they're necessary to preserve the balance of power that is not true
00:09:17.200 the kurds have an opportunity to pave their path let's pave ours and if we're so worried about threats
00:09:24.640 to the homeland how about we actually focus on our true point of vulnerability was that which is not
00:09:30.120 the emergence of some caliphate it's the fact that terrorists are crossing our southern border
00:09:35.680 on a daily weekly monthly basis we seem far less concerned about that and we undeniably should be
00:09:42.940 my colleagues i ask you to support this resolution to reassert congress's power to speak on these matters
00:09:50.200 of war and peace so often we come to the floor and we debate frivolities this is one of the most
00:09:54.860 important things we can be talking about how we use the credibility of our fellow americans how we
00:10:01.140 spend america's treasure how we spill the blood of our bravest patriots we have stained the deserts
00:10:08.260 in the middle east with enough american blood it is time to bring our service members home i encourage
00:10:13.860 my colleagues to support the resolution and yield back the balance of my time okay one of the most
00:10:20.280 uh important debates on a real issue of national importance uh has taken place this afternoon
00:10:28.420 it's wednesday 8 march in the year of our lord 2023 and of course it gets no mainstream media coverage
00:10:36.360 in fact i'm not even sure fox picked it up or anybody but this is a part of if we keep talking
00:10:43.000 about we're in this you know the two um uh converging crises this geopolitical crisis on the eurasian
00:10:49.720 landmass and uh that were being sucked into a kinetic war and uh and then you've got the financial and
00:10:57.220 economic crisis they're converging as we've said and they're conflating and they're going to spin out
00:11:02.020 of control testimony today continues on on capitol hill on these issues now people are not covering it
00:11:08.920 because they you know they want to talk about other things not the things that matter and we refuse to
00:11:15.200 do that here this is about having the people's house and having congress specifically the house of
00:11:25.240 representatives get more engaged and more focused on uh on the war powers and their their uh constitutional
00:11:33.400 responsibility about actually the declarations of war and fighting wars this really is a preamble
00:11:40.360 to the fight that's going to come over ukraine remember in ukraine we want to cut the funding to
00:11:45.500 zero uh the ukrainians should be at the negotiating table but we can't afford it it's it's obscene
00:11:51.760 what's happening and we have the power to stop it now one of the things that we're trying to do is force
00:11:56.240 biden to come to the house and actually with a war powers resolution very specifically walk through
00:12:02.840 uh his strategy the objectives what are we trying to accomplish there in order to do that what matt
00:12:09.640 gates and i think you're seeing in matt gates uh particularly and i'm very proud uh to have an
00:12:15.520 association with matt over a number of years but to see uh the young guy that i would meet on the tarmac
00:12:21.320 uh down in florida for the rallies uh for trump in 2016 and see that he's become a real a true leader
00:12:29.440 uh understands the details matt gates's forces this is about syria this is about the 900 troops that are
00:12:35.680 in syria and have been there forever but it's not just about those troops it is about why americans
00:12:42.800 deployed in these areas of the world why are we all over the world in every different country uh what if this
00:12:49.900 is a great power conflict what are the what's the what's at stake here what are the objectives here
00:12:54.940 who's involved here and it was galvanizing you know a several couple hours of uh of debate and quite
00:13:01.440 frankly gates had more republicans coming up and and against him than he even had democrats in fact two
00:13:08.320 of the most spirited were zinke and uh and mccall do we have mccall do we have okay let's play i think
00:13:14.340 we got a couple more clips here let's go ahead and play the clip and then and then i'll just play the
00:13:18.500 additional clip and then i'll come back and comment on it the gentleman is recognized
00:13:23.600 mr speaker the united states is not at war with syria rather the united states is conducting
00:13:30.140 limited but important counterterrorism operations in syria against isis formerly known as al-qaeda in
00:13:38.100 iraq pursuant to the 2001 counterterrorism aumf those operations are being reported regularly to congress
00:13:46.420 consistent with the war powers resolution they are not new or unique to the biden administration
00:13:52.780 in fact let me quote president trump about what we are doing here when he said quote a small presence
00:14:00.320 of united states armed forces remains in strategically significant locations in syria to conduct operations
00:14:08.180 against continuing terrorist threats emanating from syria these ongoing operations which united states
00:14:15.680 has carried out with the assistance of numerous international partners has been successful
00:14:20.940 in seriously degrading isis capabilities in syria in iraq end of quote when isis was at the peak of
00:14:30.380 its power in 2015 it controlled vast territory in iraq and syria which it used to launch attacks in the
00:14:37.760 middle east and beyond those terrorists ruled with medieval brutality and we all remember the graphic
00:14:44.500 videos of isis fighters beheading journalists and innocent civilians these monsters drew thousands of
00:14:51.760 foreign volunteers to join their ranks in iraq and syria and inspired terrorist attacks around the world 0.98
00:14:58.060 our u.s military working with a global coalition and local forces on the ground helped to dismantle
00:15:04.860 and destroy this vicious caliphate i'm proud that our men and women in uniform answered the call to fight
00:15:11.680 this menace which threatened the united states and the world and even though isis no longer controls
00:15:18.320 significant territory there are still tens of thousands of hardened terrorist fighters in iraq and syria
00:15:25.200 who are held bent on re-establishing their terror state in fact in the last quarter of 2022
00:15:32.240 isis claimed 72 attacks in iraq and syria including several ied attacks
00:15:38.980 thankfully our small deployment of u.s service members is remarkably effective at working with local partners
00:15:46.240 to achieve results and ensure the enduring and complete defeat of isis 1.00
00:15:51.400 otherwise these numbers would be much worse
00:15:54.380 in 2022 we are involved in 108 partner and 14 unilateral operations killing 466 isis isis operatives
00:16:05.100 and detaining 250 others none of us want our soldiers overseas and in harm's way any longer
00:16:13.080 than is absolutely necessary and i understand that the gentleman from florida has introduced this resolution
00:16:19.700 in good faith and in good faith and in well intentioned and he did it in response to a february 17
00:16:25.980 operation to kill an isis leader in which four u.s service members were wounded
00:16:31.780 any injured or killed service member is a tragedy we are eternally grateful for their sacrifices
00:16:39.480 the sacrifices made by our men and women in uniform and their families and never take them for granted
00:16:46.540 and it's our responsibilities members of congress to reassess an ongoing basis whether their deployments
00:16:53.100 and the risks they involve are necessary in doing that we must recall president obama's disastrous
00:16:59.980 decision to prematurely withdraw our troops from iraq in 2011 a few short later years later american
00:17:08.340 troops returned to fight the deadly isis caliphate which grew out of the al-qaeda presence that had not 0.99
00:17:15.020 been defeated the chairman of the joint chiefs general milley was in syria just days ago to see
00:17:20.780 our troops and assess the state of our mission he went there to figure out what value this mission
00:17:26.840 holds for our security he said and i quote unless you support and devote the correct amount of resources
00:17:33.920 to it things will get worse and if you completely ignore and turn your back then you're setting the
00:17:40.420 conditions for a resurgence that is why i strongly oppose this resolution directing the removal of
00:17:47.800 united states armed forces from syria and i urge my colleagues to do the same if we withdraw our troops
00:17:55.020 from syria now we could see a resurgence of isis or another legal successor in short time
00:18:02.360 withdrawal this legal authorized u.s troop deployment must be based on the total defeat of isis
00:18:10.440 let me be clear congress's power to declare war is one of our most solemn article one responsibilities
00:18:17.960 and i understand why some in this chamber are uncomfortable with using a 22 year old force
00:18:25.180 authorization for current operations i believe that we should be working together
00:18:30.800 in a bipartisan manner to have an updated replacement to this aumf to address the current threat
00:18:38.320 environment while also keeping congress engaged with our constitutional responsibilities but this
00:18:45.540 resolution does not work to that end i believe it would call for an artificial withdrawal and it would
00:18:52.440 be a win for the isis terrorists committed to our destruction the bottom line is the premise upon this 1.00
00:19:00.380 resolution uh as a parliamentarian doesn't make fact-based determinations uh the premise about this whole thing
00:19:07.900 is that there's no authorization for troops to be in syria today it's just not accurate in fact it's wrong
00:19:16.540 because in 2014 the isis threat was addressed under presidential authorities of 2001 aumf and i remember being
00:19:25.980 in the white house with president trump uh addressing this crisis as well about what to do about syria
00:19:33.500 and whether we believe our u.s troops should remain uh in a very small uh footprint of 900 soldiers uh in syria
00:19:42.220 and at that time president trump uh made the decision that under the 2001 aumf to keep these troops in country
00:19:51.180 and i believe that was the correct decision and and i stand by that and i urge my colleagues to join me
00:19:58.180 memphis memphis just just pause it right there and get to zinky in a second okay you've seen this
00:20:03.380 this debate's important because it's going to get to the ukraine debate we're going to do the same
00:20:07.460 thing in ukraine about uh uh a forcing biden to come forward uh with a war powers resolution lays out
00:20:15.660 the plan right here you're talking about 22 years ago they had this uh you know the the the force
00:20:22.180 authorization we're dealing off something that was passed 22 years ago and this is the con and the scam
00:20:28.380 they use to keep it going and with president trump the pressure on him for the syria thing of which i
00:20:32.420 fought adamantly and i fought uh doing the um the cruise missile attacks early in his administration
00:20:39.980 adamantly because all they want to do is have an incident with u.s combat troops up there and the
00:20:47.440 russians look obama the the goal of american foreign policy one of the central goals in that
00:20:54.640 part of the world forever was to keep the russians out make sure the russians couldn't get into egypt 1.00
00:20:59.240 again make sure the russians couldn't get into uh uh you know until war more to port obama and those
00:21:05.040 guys gave that up obama and them let it let them get into syria obama uh administration and biden the
00:21:11.620 obama biden administration let them have the warm water port which they've tried to get for hundreds
00:21:17.140 of years uh so for us to continue to fight there and matt gates lays it out so magnificently to go hey
00:21:26.660 this is a great power struggle you got persia on one side the russians on another side you got the
00:21:32.000 gulf embers you got israel this is for that part of the world 900 american troops all it's doing is
00:21:37.020 just dangling out their trouble we don't really have the ability to to support these troops who
00:21:41.840 really don't have the ability to make any big difference in which way this is going it's 900
00:21:46.300 troops it's just to keep your footprint there so that you can get in more trouble and that's why
00:21:51.600 they got to come home and i think gates is incredibly articulate you also had anna polina luna
00:21:56.340 and this is a terrific example of the america first policies now starting to be all over the
00:22:03.660 capitol because this has never come up this type of debate and in the people pushing back the most
00:22:09.040 are neocon republicans do we have a zinkies can i play this is uh commander uh a zinky a former navy
00:22:16.080 seal uh his uh let's listen to him from montana montana is recognized well thank you mr speaker i stand
00:22:23.840 before you today in strong opposition to resolution 21 to pull forces out of syria like many in this
00:22:31.400 distinguished chamber i've served in the region i've spent 23 years a navy navy seal i've hunted war
00:22:37.580 criminals i've dismantled terrorist cells and i've fought for freedom on foreign shores there are
00:22:45.100 several self-evident truths in syria first the u.s troops are authorized by congress second as i do
00:22:55.600 believe that we should review those authorizations then they need to be reviewed we should have answers
00:23:02.140 on objectives on failures on victories on a plan for ultimate success i agree but there is no doubt
00:23:13.320 that syria also remains a center for radical islamic forces and terrorism like isis like pkk 0.78
00:23:25.080 these are organizations that will never stop
00:23:32.200 ever they are committed to destroy this nation and our allies and we should be aware of their objectives
00:23:40.840 of their efforts lastly the hard truth is this either we fight him in syria or we'll fight him here
00:23:51.960 either we fight and defeat them in syria or we'll fight in the streets of our nation and to understand 0.97
00:24:00.200 the scope of the military presence we're talking about about 900 troops that's 900 troops that have to have
00:24:07.560 the capability for intelligence collection self-defense surveillance targeting in case our troops get in
00:24:15.160 trouble that force must be sufficient to get them out of trouble because every sailor soldier airman or
00:24:24.840 marine deserves nothing less 300 military personnel is an objectively small contingent
00:24:34.280 and you look at it that's about the size of a walmart so i agree with many supporters of the resolution
00:24:43.240 that we congress has the powers and these powers should be reviewed we should ask the hard questions
00:24:50.680 what's the path to victory where the resources that are being spent are they being spent in the right spot
00:24:57.560 is there a clear path to victory and what are the interests of the united states but believe me mr chairman
00:25:06.520 i understand the burden of war i've lost a lot of friends and i understand the consequences of war and
00:25:14.760 foreign shores both to the servicemen and our families which is why i call my colleagues today
00:25:21.960 to ask the right questions but to reject this well-intended but really really bad idea mr chairman
00:25:29.640 i yield it's actually well intended and a great idea and i think commander zinke you actually made the
00:25:37.320 strongest cases for it um no if it doesn't if 900 americans are over there and like you said 300 combat
00:25:44.760 troops get all the support troops because it's got to be covered this is how you end up putting more and
00:25:49.080 more and more in it's time to come home okay that is 900 american troops are not going to make any
00:25:55.800 difference in this you've got all we're going to do is lose more men and women you know this is the
00:26:01.080 area of the world where joe kent's wife gave her life it is time to bring these home it's a time to
00:26:06.120 get objectives and focus on what the main thing is and the main thing is not fighting down on some
00:26:11.880 uh you know tangential theater in this great power conflict every piece of money and resources and
00:26:20.600 manpower we have should be in the pacific it should be focused on the chinese communist party and even
00:26:24.280 the kinetic part of that should be the smallest part of that we should go after financially
00:26:29.000 a an amazing debate today not just about the powers of congress to declare war and go to war
00:26:34.120 but also of what we are doing what does america first stand for versus uh versus the neoliberal neocons
00:26:41.400 okay short commercial break we're gonna come back we got ukraine we got capital market economics
00:26:45.160 gonna break it all down we got clips we got analysis observations we're going to be back in the warm in
00:26:49.640 just a moment
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00:31:50.680 war room battleground with stephen k bannon
00:31:56.280 okay so much important stuff's happening today this amazing debate on the floor of the house
00:32:00.760 regarding the troop withdrawal and continual fighting of american troops combat troops in
00:32:06.360 syria people say well god that would be on syria for years no you have not
00:32:10.040 even president trump as hard as he tried to get a syria i remember at the end of his administration
00:32:13.960 he really pushed forward to do it but this is something that the deep state the administrative
00:32:17.960 state they want you in syria they want you in every part of the world particularly they want
00:32:21.000 you cheap by jail as close as you can get to russian troops the better because they want 0.78
00:32:24.840 something to happen they're they're they're always trying to egg it on and uh this situation in
00:32:30.120 syria is very dangerous no american troops should be in syria they should come home we should take 1.00
00:32:34.440 them all out of iraq iraq the other day made an announcement they're going to um uh do a long-term
00:32:39.560 output deal with the ccp and uh and take the the not do it in dollars not have to convert dollars to
00:32:46.200 do it so you don't need petrodollars which hurts the prime reserve currency they want to take it in
00:32:50.200 chinese currencies these people are not our allies they've used our idiotic uh absurd leaders like 1.00
00:32:58.200 bush and cheney and others for years obama and biden and it's time now for america first you're
00:33:04.440 seeing the beginning opening salvo of what an america first foreign policy looks like let's go
00:33:10.120 another big aspect obviously ukraine and we just found out from the intelligence services they leaked
00:33:15.400 to the new york times that a pro-ukrainian paramilitary group or intelligence group is
00:33:21.880 actually responsible for the north stream pipeline which president trump tried to stop and told the
00:33:26.760 germans you shouldn't be taking you shouldn't structure your entire economy around cheap and plentiful 1.00
00:33:31.800 russian gas because you're going to become beholden to the russians and merkel blew us off 0.99
00:33:36.840 and her defense ministers blew us all you guys don't understand you're so like so sophisticated
00:33:41.320 you're not sophisticated we have a special relationship with russia and we know how to handle
00:33:45.720 putin they're absolute clowns the german leaders and they're dangerous clowns let's go we got a couple
00:33:51.080 clips on ukraine they spoke because remember if uh nothing there's no ukrainian group in the world
00:33:57.720 that does anything that the u.s intelligence agencies has not signed off on let's just be
00:34:01.560 blunt so there's something up here and this was a declaration of war not just on russia this is
00:34:07.800 a declaration war on the german people because their entire economies change uh once this happened
00:34:12.440 once north stream 2 was uh was blown up let's go ahead and play the clips shows are confident
00:34:18.600 that a pro-ukrainian group may have been behind the sabotage of the north stream pipelines in the fall
00:34:26.840 uh suggesting that president zelensky's government was not involved but it was a group with you know
00:34:33.160 pro-ukrainian uh ties and we wanted to get your reaction to that report what do you make of it
00:34:38.680 first of all i want everybody should understand uh north stream 2 is a symbol of russian aggression
00:34:48.920 they have zero importance for their energy security for the economy this is the classical example how to
00:34:58.920 weaponize russian energy policy that was directly against ukraine and with that situation if only we know
00:35:11.240 who is behind the sabotage of the north stream maybe we would thank them uh because uh serve russia right
00:35:21.080 after all these disastrous crimes they make on the ukrainian territory unfortunately i cannot comment it
00:35:30.760 but this is the approach of all ukrainians and look about the north stream these are serious things
00:35:38.600 very much serious things first never be afraid of the truth
00:35:43.800 i am not afraid of the truth any truth but we are talking about by the time being
00:35:53.160 speculations
00:35:55.960 investigations on the exact circumstances are still ongoing in sweden maybe you can say something
00:36:03.720 about it the administrator on denmark and in germany and let's be serious as long as investigations are
00:36:11.080 ongoing we cannot draft draw definitive conclusion what can i say i have to wait for having a clear
00:36:20.360 understanding of what has happening it has been a sabotage of the north stream gas pipeline yes it has been it's clear
00:36:32.360 or what has happening it has been a sabotage of the north stream gas pipeline yes it has been it's clear
00:36:41.080 it means one thing it means one thing we have to be much more vigilant
00:36:48.920 about the resilience of our critical infrastructure because what has happened with the north stream too
00:36:56.120 may happen tomorrow with a cable of optic fiber or an electric cable supplying electricity from one country
00:37:04.760 to another to another below the sea and we have already taken swift action to accelerate the work on protecting our critical infrastructure
00:37:15.480 the resilience on priority areas and to give an answer to respond to the international threats through international cooperation
00:37:24.680 immigration in particular which
00:37:30.360 this is also need it means one thing you know what we have to have to be much more vigilant
00:37:36.040 сид really agree with the protection and we want to make sure that and doesn't collect anything
00:37:37.720 you and also it it means one everyone know what would you expect
00:37:43.640 that the international topic isn't it we are going a bit it is there right to what it is
00:37:44.280 in for tener жilандy alternative in to
00:37:52.160 And we have already taken sweet action to accelerate the work on protecting our critical infrastructure, the resilience on priority areas, and to give an answer to a response to the international threats through international cooperation, in particular with NATO.
00:38:12.380 But about what has happened with the Nord Stream 2, I don't know.
00:38:17.400 And as far as the one that could know.
00:38:20.040 Let me have it.
00:38:20.980 Okay, bottom line is, there is no pro-Ukrainian group.
00:38:26.640 Let me think about this for a second.
00:38:28.180 Let me, oh, right, the CIA, DIA.
00:38:31.000 This stinks to high heaven.
00:38:32.480 You're not being dealt straight with on anything dealing with Ukraine.
00:38:36.700 Right?
00:38:36.960 You got Zelensky now demanding, he's demanding that McCarthy, Speaker McCarthy, you know, not go to Taiwan.
00:38:44.540 He needs, he says, you must come to, you must come to Ukraine to get a real feel for what's happening here, what we're doing here.
00:38:51.340 No.
00:38:52.140 So I put up on Gary Day, but McCarthy does not need to go to Ukraine.
00:38:55.700 We know more than enough than we need to know.
00:38:58.040 We're not questioning the valor or heroism of the Ukrainian people.
00:39:01.900 And Bakhmut, they've made a decision today.
00:39:03.840 They're putting in more troops.
00:39:05.480 He's telling people, though, that it looks like it could fall, looks like they could lose it, which they understand is a major strategic and, more importantly, probably optics or some symbolic defeat.
00:39:16.340 The Russians continue to pound away on that besieged city with the inhabitants that have really taken some brutal, some brutal incoming. 0.87
00:39:29.100 But here you have a situation where our ally and the most important ally we have on the continent, Germany, although they never pull their weight. 0.74
00:39:37.720 The Germans have this pipeline to provide them natural gas because the entire structure of German society, culture, and industry is predicated upon cheap and plentiful Russian natural gas, of which we told them, if you do this, you'll be beholden to them.
00:39:53.080 And lo and behold, and the people said, oh, Russia did this to show them.
00:39:57.940 No, it's ridiculous.
00:39:59.300 This was always either Ukrainians or the American regime with Biden to try to force more action against the Russians.
00:40:09.200 And right now you have, they're leaking to the New York Times, a pro-Ukrainian group.
00:40:13.680 You just had the Ukrainian guy sit there.
00:40:14.940 Well, you know, this is not authorized by Zelensky.
00:40:18.280 Anything related to this is authorized and approved by the Central Intelligence Agency and DNI and probably DIA.
00:40:27.480 So somebody in the Biden regime's hands are all over this, Jake Sullivan.
00:40:33.320 And if a pro-Ukrainian group is doing this on an ally of the United States and essentially declaring war on Germany by hitting a major German asset, we should cut money off immediately.
00:40:44.400 I mean, it's terrible either way.
00:40:45.920 Either we did it in conjunction with them, we did it ourselves, and we're trying to blame it on some pro-Ukrainian group.
00:40:50.340 Or a pro-Ukrainian group did it, and we either signed off on it and didn't know about it.
00:40:54.600 This thing looks terrible.
00:40:55.920 And it shows you how much lack of thought.
00:41:01.760 And this is why the Syria debate was impersonating.
00:41:03.940 There was not a good counter-argument at all to the great Matt Gaetz.
00:41:08.160 And Matt Gaetz did a magnificent job.
00:41:09.620 He's leading this debate on the Ukraine.
00:41:12.220 He's trying to force the same debate to the floor.
00:41:14.620 You're going to see all the hollowness, all the double talk when he gets this forces of vote on a War Powers resolution.
00:41:24.480 Right now, constitutionally, it is obscene that Congress is working off 22-year-old authorizations, the use of military authorizations.
00:41:33.180 The circumstances and context have changed so much.
00:41:40.440 And this is what President Trump fought.
00:41:42.160 Remember, they're sitting there, they're absolutely petrified.
00:41:45.580 The neoliberal, neocon order is absolutely petrified of MAGA and America First, and this is why.
00:41:51.820 Because now we're challenging them into their babies, right?
00:41:54.360 Got to have combat troops in Syria.
00:41:56.200 Have to have unlimited approach.
00:41:57.780 Have to have unlimited support for the Ukrainians.
00:42:00.140 Because Biden regime, do you have unlimited, if it's a pro-Ukrainian group, do you still have unlimited support?
00:42:06.460 You keep saying it's however long the Ukrainians want to fight and however much it's going to take, we're there. 0.97
00:42:12.240 Well, now to know a pro-Ukrainian group went after a strategic asset of our top ally on the continent.
00:42:19.340 Were you informed of that?
00:42:20.620 Did you know about that?
00:42:21.980 Did you sign off about it?
00:42:23.800 Okay.
00:42:24.120 If you did, that's terrible because you lied.
00:42:27.120 And if you didn't, that's probably worse because the Ukrainians have proved once again, looks like they've sent the rocket into Poland that time and lied about it. 0.97
00:42:34.980 Zelensky lied about it.
00:42:36.460 You can't trust these people, particularly when you're playing, they're up against a nuclear power that could start using tactical nuclear weapons.
00:42:44.760 We need adults in room. 0.98
00:42:46.100 This is why Trump gave you four years of peace and prosperity.
00:42:48.740 Okay.
00:42:49.300 We're going to go to the other side of the equation.
00:42:50.720 We're going to talk about the other crisis, a couple of breaking news items.
00:42:53.900 McCarthy said today, what have I been arguing about?
00:42:56.860 You need to have a model. 0.65
00:42:58.080 You need to have a financial model that everybody kind of agrees on.
00:43:00.540 Not saying it's totally accurate, but at least sets out a template.
00:43:03.500 The Biden regime has not put that out.
00:43:05.420 McCarthy puts out today, tweets out today, he's going to have a joint meeting of everybody.
00:43:10.020 And they're going to have the Congressional Budget Office, what we talked about a couple weeks ago, the $19 trillion we're going to add in the next 20 years.
00:43:16.440 Because of ourselves and other people pushing that you've got to get this out there and you have to have people address it.
00:43:22.740 McCarthy has announced today that he is going to have a joint working group, working session.
00:43:27.860 Everybody's invited and they're going to have CBO make a presentation.
00:43:30.860 And once you do that, you're going to sit there going, okay, guys, what are we doing here?
00:43:35.040 Because we can't have $50 trillion of debt on our balance sheet with, you know, trillions more over at the Federal Reserve.
00:43:41.960 The math doesn't work.
00:43:43.620 It does not work.
00:43:44.820 It's catastrophic and destructive.
00:43:47.000 So we're making some progress there.
00:43:49.680 Powell was at the House today at the Senate yesterday.
00:43:51.860 Let's go ahead.
00:43:52.260 We've got some clips here.
00:43:53.720 And you've got to see these to believe them.
00:43:55.460 Let's go ahead and play Federal Reserve Chairman Powell in front of the House today for his testimony.
00:44:00.080 I was asking whether a CBDC would serve some of that.
00:44:03.620 But a CBDC is going to be years in the evaluation.
00:44:08.080 And, you know, I think we can get this into the hands of the public very quickly.
00:44:12.040 And I think we'll have real-time payments in this country very, very soon.
00:44:16.700 And so that's a good thing.
00:44:18.360 It is.
00:44:19.240 You know, I do have an overriding question.
00:44:21.800 And that is, you know, before the greenback, everybody had their own currency.
00:44:26.480 You know, you had rail companies, you had coal companies, you had, you know, state banks that were authorized to issue their own currency.
00:44:34.480 But when the greenback came out, all of those various currencies went to zero because everyone had, you know,
00:44:44.320 because the greenback had the full faith and credit of the United States behind it.
00:44:48.480 And I'm worried about a lot of these stable coins and other cryptocurrencies.
00:44:56.020 Do they go to zero when we come up with a CBDC that has the full faith and credit of the United States behind it?
00:45:04.360 And that's—and we've got thousands of these out there, and you've got people investing millions and millions of dollars in the—well, trillions right now.
00:45:13.020 And I'm just—I'm just thinking if we had those—those advantages built into a, you know, a CBDC,
00:45:22.960 wouldn't those alternatives go to zero if they did not have the transparency and the full faith and credit that we enjoy?
00:45:30.060 So certainly unbacked cryptocurrencies that don't have any intrinsic value but nonetheless trade for a positive number,
00:45:38.160 those—those have never understood the valuation of those.
00:45:42.300 Stable coins are actually—many of them are really—they're—they're drawing on the credibility of the dollar.
00:45:48.940 They have—they have dollar-based—they're dollar-denominated mainly, and they have dollar-based reserves,
00:45:54.120 although we don't know what's in the reserves because there's no regulation.
00:45:56.680 Gentlemen, so basically the $7 trillion that we spent—that the Democrats spent in the last four years
00:46:02.120 is going to cost us an additional $2 trillion.
00:46:04.740 And that's not factoring in future rate increases as you continue to appropriate—
00:46:07.840 Hang on a second. Hang on a second, Memphis. Hang on. 1.00
00:46:10.700 I want to go to this. We're getting to this in a second. Hit rewind on 10 minutes.
00:46:14.180 One of the most fascinating things about what's happening in the House, people all—the debt is so bad, right?
00:46:21.800 And they're getting such double talks from the Fed. People are talking about, hey, these rolling
00:46:27.400 devaluations, you're going to see in a minute about gimmicks to solve our problem. This is why I think
00:46:34.000 it's so powerful that McCarthy came out and said, hey, let's get everybody in a room, sit down with
00:46:39.100 the Congressional Budget Office numbers, have them present. You can ask questions, question assumptions,
00:46:44.740 but you at least get to see a set of math. Here, the previous conversation was about this whole issue
00:46:50.700 of a government-issued, a Federal Reserve-issued cryptocurrency, and also currencies that are
00:46:56.780 stablecoin versus not. You know, we're part of a community. Here's the thing. This is going to get
00:47:02.920 to be—and you heard the congressman right there teeing it up by saying, hey, and if you go to my
00:47:08.220 birchgold.com slash war room, the politics of money, and particularly the third phase, the debt trap,
00:47:14.740 the debt trap will get you up to speed now with what you need to know for these conversations,
00:47:19.000 listen to this testimony. What the congressman was sitting there was talking about what we talked
00:47:22.760 about in the first installment, which was the politics of money, saying, hey, you know, before
00:47:27.060 the Federal Reserve, before, what, 1911, 1913, you know, had many different types of currency around
00:47:33.500 there. You not just had greenbacks, you had—or before the invention of greenbacks, you had all types
00:47:38.400 of different money. And now you're talking about crypto, and he's saying, hey, they
00:47:44.680 had a long conversation about, you know, stablecoin. Now, one of the big problems with having a
00:47:50.300 government-issued crypto is, first off, even with the blockchain, they will be able to know every one
00:47:55.680 of the transactions you do. I mean, do you want a currency that you're totally beholden to the
00:48:00.960 government information? They didn't have time to get into this. But I will tell you, now that we're doing
00:48:06.220 rolling devaluations on you every day, this is going to get to be a big issue. Okay, I want to go to
00:48:11.100 Timmons. Let's play the next part of this. This gets into the trillion-dollar coin. You've got to
00:48:15.600 listen to this one.
00:48:17.240 So basically, the $7 trillion that we spent—that the Democrats spent in the last four years—is
00:48:21.920 going to cost us an additional $2 trillion. And that's not factoring in future rate increases as
00:48:26.120 you continue to appropriately try to get inflation under control. As you can tell, this is a huge
00:48:30.460 problem. The $7 trillion unnecessary spending in the last four years has caused inflation. Some of my
00:48:35.700 colleagues across the aisle disagree with that causal relationship. Clinton's Treasury Secretary
00:48:40.380 and Obama's Director of National Economic Council, Larry Summers, wrote an op-ed before they spent the
00:48:44.980 money and said it was going to cause inflation. And he has gone on the I was right tour for the last
00:48:50.060 couple of years. We need responsible policymakers to address our debt. Let's talk about what's not
00:48:57.800 serious, and that's minting a trillion-dollar coin. Many of my colleagues across the aisle have
00:49:02.900 advocated for this. Luckily, both President Biden and Secretary Yellen have said that this is not a
00:49:07.060 serious proposal, and they have no plans of considering it. Unfortunately, the Biden administration
00:49:11.940 has a bit of a history of doing a 180 when the political winds blow. Most recently, he said he
00:49:16.660 would veto the D.C. crime bill. And now he's adamantly supporting it and plans to sign it. So, Chair Powell,
00:49:23.780 my only question of you is, if Biden and Yellen send you a trillion-dollar coin, will you accept it?
00:49:30.380 And what I will say to that is that this only winds up one way, and that is with Congress
00:49:38.540 raising the debt ceiling. So you will not accept a trillion-dollar coin and treat it as a trillion
00:49:43.380 dollars if it's sent to you? I'll add there are no rabbits to be pulled out of hats here. This
00:49:48.520 only ends with Congress. I know you don't like yes or nos, but if you were sent a trillion-dollar
00:49:53.060 coin and asked to be, asked to treat it as a trillion dollars, will you treat it as a trillion dollars?
00:50:00.020 That would be a rabbit coming out of a head.
00:50:02.500 I'll take that as a no. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
00:50:08.340 Today, we're going to have more of this as we go on. These hearings actually get some pretty good
00:50:13.220 questions. And right there, he's talking about, this is what Massey was talking about, the $5 trillion
00:50:17.060 the other day. Here, I think it's Timmons of South Carolina is talking about the $7 trillion
00:50:23.700 of the Biden administration, but also because of the collaboration of the Republican Party.
00:50:27.940 He did the correct calculation. That is going to add two trillion, you're going to pay $2 trillion
00:50:32.180 in interest expenses on that over time at the current rates, and not even if they go higher.
00:50:37.140 This is such a disaster. And Powell has so few answers for people going forward that this thing,
00:50:46.980 a gimmick of the minting of one coin that you would just call, oh, I say that this is worth
00:50:52.900 a trillion dollars, send it to the Fed, and that can help take down the balance sheet and kind of
00:50:57.300 be a payment. These type of gimmicks are actually being discussed. And he brings up a great point.
00:51:02.980 Hey, Biden has told us time and time again, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do this.
00:51:06.900 I'm not going to do this. Boom. They flip at the last second. And he's trying to get the guy on
00:51:11.060 the record. And Powell's saying, well, no gimmick can get us out of here. You watch. This is going
00:51:16.180 to get more intense. It's going to get crazier every day, both what we do to avoid getting sucked
00:51:23.860 into a kinetic third world war in the Eurasian landmass and start to withdraw ourselves and focus
00:51:28.740 on the Chinese Communist Party. And number two, this financial and economic disaster. There's a
00:51:36.340 poll up today. I got up on Getter that 40% of the American people are totally depressed,
00:51:42.020 totally depressed about their financial situation. And I said, gloomy, gloomy and depressed. And I
00:51:46.500 said, hey, they shouldn't be gloomy and depressed. They should be furious and angry because these are
00:51:51.060 created crises. Okay. And the six o'clock hour every day this week, and I think continuing on,
00:51:56.420 I'm going to be breaking down some of the more important issues of the day, the things that matter to
00:52:02.500 your life are going to matter going forward. I want to thank everybody. We're going to be back
00:52:05.380 here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. It's going to be absolutely on fire. Remember,
00:52:09.700 things like the Syria bill, you don't think you're going to win those. It's not messaging,
00:52:13.540 but it's to get out into the discussion. Matt Gaetz had tipped Congressman Matt Gaetz an
00:52:18.740 incredible job of organizing it. We're going to have a lot more tomorrow morning. Alex Jones is
00:52:23.780 scheduled to join us in the 11 o'clock hour. Alex got a lot to talk about on the, not just a great
00:52:29.460 reset, but what's going on at Capitol Hill. Okay. See you tomorrow morning, 6 a.m. Back in the world.
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