Bannon's War Room - March 14, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 251: Who Will Bailout The American People?


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

173.70557

Word Count

9,464

Sentence Count

482

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

In this episode of War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Krom Carmichael, founder of Soul Tea, to talk about the importance of keeping our hearts healthy, and the benefits of taking a supplement that s been around for a long time.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.
00:00:14.840 I mean, every day you're out there.
00:00:17.540 What they're doing is blowing people off.
00:00:20.980 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,
00:00:23.660 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,
00:00:26.220 get total control and total power.
00:00:27.880 Because this is just like in Arizona.
00:00:30.820 This is just like in Georgia.
00:00:32.020 It's another element that backs them into a quarter
00:00:34.860 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
00:00:37.120 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
00:00:39.400 As we've told you, this is the fight.
00:00:41.280 All this nonsense, all this spin,
00:00:43.500 they can't handle the truth.
00:00:45.240 War Room, Battleground.
00:00:47.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:51.300 It's Monday, 13 March, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
00:00:55.100 We've got a lot to get through in this hour,
00:00:58.060 and we're going to get to it all.
00:00:59.700 I want to bring in Krom Carmichael.
00:01:01.540 Krom, the reason I like the fourth hour here,
00:01:04.040 it gives me a little more time to expand on topics,
00:01:06.360 and I'm not quite as pressed by our clock,
00:01:09.400 since we have a very different clock here.
00:01:11.160 Clock is TV or radio speak for how we actually break the segments up.
00:01:15.380 But the Posse, the War Room audience, the cadre, the vanguard,
00:01:20.980 they got their work cut out for them,
00:01:22.360 and we know people volunteer.
00:01:24.600 They were the 3,500 to 4,000 volunteers for the Naomi Wolf Project.
00:01:28.380 They were Precinct Strategy.
00:01:30.000 They volunteer.
00:01:30.900 They're hungry for action,
00:01:32.380 and we need them here for the long term.
00:01:35.740 Even people that got a few years on them,
00:01:37.440 like I got a few years on me,
00:01:38.680 we need them here for the long term.
00:01:39.880 They have hearts of lions,
00:01:41.080 but we have to make sure that we assist them
00:01:44.780 and give them every opportunity to learn and find out more stuff
00:01:47.380 to make sure their hearts are the engines,
00:01:50.540 because they got big hearts, right?
00:01:52.040 And these are strong, dedicated, motivated, passionate people.
00:01:55.720 We got to keep those hearts healthy.
00:01:58.560 How do we do that, sir?
00:02:00.380 Steve, thanks so much,
00:02:01.900 and that's a great preamble to talking about Soul Tea,
00:02:05.880 which is a product that we've been manufacturing,
00:02:08.020 the active ingredient, for 18 years,
00:02:10.220 and I've been taking that product that entire time.
00:02:13.080 And you're talking about our hearts,
00:02:14.760 and let me just talk a little bit about our heart as a muscle
00:02:18.620 and also as an organ.
00:02:20.000 It's the only thing in our body that's both.
00:02:22.540 And our cardiovascular system
00:02:24.780 has 100,000 miles of veins and arteries,
00:02:28.100 100,000 miles.
00:02:29.860 And our heart has to pump blood
00:02:31.820 through those veins and arteries all day.
00:02:34.440 And it pumps 100,000 times a day,
00:02:38.660 and it pumps 2,500 gallons a day.
00:02:42.700 And so if our heart goes out, we die quickly.
00:02:46.460 And heart disease is called the silent killer.
00:02:48.800 It's also the number one killer.
00:02:51.040 And so I really encourage the Posse.
00:02:52.840 And by the way, close to 25,000 members of the Posse
00:02:55.960 have already signed up for Soul Tea.
00:02:57.960 And I can't tell you how much I appreciate that
00:02:59.980 and how excited we are.
00:03:01.340 And we get some wonderful emails.
00:03:02.840 But the way to get Soul Tea
00:03:05.160 is to go to warroomhealth.com.
00:03:08.520 That's warroomhealth.com.
00:03:10.720 And then enter the code WARROOM at checkout.
00:03:13.720 And when you do that,
00:03:14.720 you get $29.95 off the initial shipment,
00:03:19.040 which is a very good deal.
00:03:20.680 But then on an ongoing basis,
00:03:22.980 on an ongoing basis on your subscription,
00:03:25.200 you're getting three bottles for the price of two.
00:03:27.720 Every 90 days, we ship three bottles
00:03:29.880 for the price of two, and we pay the freight.
00:03:32.800 And so it's a great deal.
00:03:34.120 It's really good for your heart.
00:03:35.500 And I am the best person to talk about it
00:03:38.320 because I've been taking it for 18 years.
00:03:40.740 It lowered my bad cholesterol from 130 to 89,
00:03:44.280 18 years ago.
00:03:45.200 It's been under 90 ever since.
00:03:47.180 My blood pressure's in good shape.
00:03:49.280 And I take zero prescription drugs,
00:03:51.100 zero prescription drugs, and I'm 74 years old.
00:03:56.380 Now, just everybody,
00:03:57.620 look, if you're taking blood pressure of medicine,
00:03:59.100 which my mom and dad took forever,
00:04:01.360 if you're taking a statin, you stay on that.
00:04:03.180 You always work with your doctor.
00:04:04.900 This is extra, particularly for people
00:04:07.040 that may be not that far down the curve.
00:04:09.800 But this is why we love the extract of green tea.
00:04:13.580 Yeah, and if you tell your doctor
00:04:14.880 that the active ingredient in soul tea
00:04:17.680 is a super-enriched concentration
00:04:20.140 of a molecule called theoflavin,
00:04:23.200 your doctor or you can Google theoflavin
00:04:25.700 and the heart health benefits of theoflavin,
00:04:28.140 and you'll find all kinds of information.
00:04:30.640 Now, you can also go to our website
00:04:32.180 through warroomhealth.com
00:04:34.400 and click on our science
00:04:35.980 and you'll see a lot of information there also.
00:04:39.720 Yeah, I want to immerse everybody in information.
00:04:41.820 So just go to the website and check it out.
00:04:44.000 Krom, honored to have you on here.
00:04:45.960 Thank you, brother.
00:04:46.820 Thank you for staying over to the second hour.
00:04:48.420 Let's go ahead and play.
00:04:49.100 Thank you.
00:04:49.480 Thank you, brother.
00:04:50.820 I got a call open for Boris.
00:04:53.840 I don't have a call open for Boris.
00:04:55.720 You told me I had a call open and I don't.
00:04:57.700 We blew it.
00:04:58.900 Can I go ahead and say you blew it?
00:05:00.800 Okay, fine.
00:05:01.520 Just let me know we have that call.
00:05:03.300 Boris had an amazing call open for you.
00:05:05.560 That's where I held you to the second hour.
00:05:07.360 Boris, you're a deal guy.
00:05:09.180 Before you became a part of President Trump's operation
00:05:13.820 and became the surrogate and all that,
00:05:15.800 you were an investment banker.
00:05:18.420 You worked on deals as a lawyer and as a financier.
00:05:22.620 Walk me through your first take on the situation
00:05:26.720 in Silicon Valley with Silicon Valley Bank, sir.
00:05:32.040 Steve, honored to be with you.
00:05:33.480 Honored to be with the posse.
00:05:34.720 And here's what I'd say.
00:05:35.520 I'd say it stands far beyond Silicon Valley Bank.
00:05:40.000 I mean, if you look at Signature Bank,
00:05:41.520 I mean, that is effectively a New York-focused bank
00:05:45.360 and in some ways it would say a New York-based bank,
00:05:47.680 another bank that's had to close.
00:05:49.140 And now there's been, again, effectively a complete bailout
00:05:53.900 of all the deposits in both banks.
00:05:56.260 We're talking into the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
00:05:58.220 of billions of dollars.
00:06:01.360 The issue here is not these two banks.
00:06:03.680 The issue here is the lot,
00:06:06.140 is the complete and total destruction
00:06:08.900 of the true strength of the American economy.
00:06:12.220 If anybody thinks that we're anywhere close
00:06:14.020 to where we were as a country,
00:06:15.960 50, 30, 20, 10,
00:06:20.200 or when President Trump was in office three years ago,
00:06:23.460 you're absolutely kidding yourself.
00:06:25.880 You're fooling yourself.
00:06:27.240 Because we have a total disaster,
00:06:31.200 a total and absolute disaster
00:06:33.480 going on in our country right now.
00:06:35.200 And it is caused by runaway spending.
00:06:39.320 It is caused by absolutely no adults in the room
00:06:42.420 in the Biden administration.
00:06:44.100 And it is caused by the fact
00:06:45.940 that our economy is becoming more and more dependent
00:06:48.760 on the Chinese Communist Party
00:06:50.240 and doing so because of the Democrats and the Rials.
00:06:53.000 By the way, Biden said,
00:06:55.440 I got a call over and we're going to play in a second.
00:06:56.860 Hang on.
00:06:57.260 But Biden gave an implicit guarantee
00:06:59.820 to $19 trillion of deposits, Boris.
00:07:04.820 We have $600 billion to $800 billion,
00:07:07.200 I think, unrealized losses on banks' portfolios.
00:07:11.480 The entire banking system
00:07:14.220 is collapsed in the three years
00:07:17.640 that Donald Trump's been gone.
00:07:19.440 How did that happen?
00:07:20.260 It happened because there's absolutely nobody.
00:07:25.060 Joe Biden's hopeless, pathetic.
00:07:27.160 There's nobody close to Joe Biden
00:07:28.800 that has any idea on anything that is going on.
00:07:31.920 Literally no clue whatsoever how to handle,
00:07:35.520 forget the country.
00:07:37.840 I wouldn't trust any of these people,
00:07:39.280 including the founder of Call Your Mother Big.
00:07:42.100 I wouldn't trust them to run a supermarket.
00:07:45.000 These people have no talent.
00:07:46.520 All they know how to do is to focus on woke issues
00:07:49.920 that do not matter.
00:07:51.040 That is an absolute and total disaster for our country.
00:07:56.100 I'm going to play this cold open.
00:07:57.600 This happened on Chuck Todd's show today.
00:07:59.500 And I'll be honest,
00:08:00.700 it's one of the most brilliant insights
00:08:04.380 I've seen in this entire mess
00:08:06.880 over the last four or five days.
00:08:09.460 And Chuck Todd was,
00:08:11.220 I don't think NBC and MSNBC is happy.
00:08:13.540 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:08:14.180 I want to start very quickly with banking crisis.
00:08:17.260 Maria Theresa, you were just saying
00:08:18.280 you were surprised you haven't seen Powell
00:08:19.720 or Yellen out more forcefully already.
00:08:23.220 Jay Powell, the Federal Reserve Chair.
00:08:24.440 If you actually, you look at which bank this is,
00:08:26.520 this is the Silicon Valley bank.
00:08:27.900 This is a startup bank.
00:08:28.840 This is also oftentimes the Democratic ATM bank
00:08:31.520 of all those investors.
00:08:33.020 And so the fact that you don't have these individuals,
00:08:35.100 the investors that invest in the people.
00:08:36.740 So the fact that you don't have someone
00:08:38.420 actually talking from the administration
00:08:39.920 and being so forceful,
00:08:41.200 I do think that we're going to see
00:08:42.860 are Republicans saying,
00:08:44.100 oh, you shouldn't bail this one out.
00:08:45.320 And it's going to be, I think,
00:08:46.180 very much on a long political line.
00:08:49.580 Okay.
00:08:50.720 Boris, two things I want to bifurcate.
00:08:52.540 First off, she makes a very insightful comment.
00:08:55.900 You don't see Yellen and Powell.
00:08:58.280 They rolled out Biden for three minutes.
00:09:01.180 They say he's coming to address the nation
00:09:03.040 before the markets open.
00:09:04.140 I had everybody, okay, here's what he's going to.
00:09:05.960 He was, it was three minutes,
00:09:08.060 read it off the proper for three minutes,
00:09:09.940 then gone.
00:09:10.340 You don't see Yellen and Powell
00:09:13.220 out pushing and trying to sell this deal
00:09:15.900 because they know it's a bailout
00:09:17.980 and they don't want to be caught in a lie.
00:09:20.320 Don't you find that odd
00:09:21.720 that Treasury and the Fed
00:09:23.160 are not out trying to push this deal
00:09:25.960 and sell it to the American people, sir?
00:09:29.180 Of course it's odd, Steve.
00:09:31.240 It's odd, but it is in no way surprising.
00:09:34.440 What is going on in our country
00:09:35.780 is that our so-called supposed leadership
00:09:38.740 has no interest whatsoever,
00:09:41.340 not even close whatsoever,
00:09:42.800 to solving the actual problems
00:09:45.220 facing our country.
00:09:46.440 And by the way, totally correct.
00:09:48.600 Is S&P a Democrat back?
00:09:50.080 It sure is.
00:09:51.020 And how about that?
00:09:52.080 The bank that's, you know,
00:09:53.480 the new powerhouse bank
00:09:54.840 for, you know,
00:09:56.340 for Democrats
00:09:57.900 that was getting all these write-ups about it.
00:10:00.100 I wonder how that bank's going to be doing
00:10:01.680 in the next several days
00:10:03.040 because I bet
00:10:04.080 that spending money
00:10:05.900 on turning boys into girls
00:10:07.720 and girls into boys
00:10:08.640 and then making sure
00:10:10.620 that Green is governing our country
00:10:12.560 is not going all that well
00:10:14.360 for that bank as well.
00:10:18.520 Boris, the president is in Iowa tonight.
00:10:21.560 We just got some videos.
00:10:22.680 We're going to try to play those.
00:10:23.880 Very powerful.
00:10:24.680 Why is President Trump
00:10:26.240 going to Iowa for his first trip
00:10:27.960 and what is he going to do?
00:10:30.680 President Trump is continuing
00:10:31.880 to deliver the message
00:10:32.760 that he's the leader
00:10:34.080 that this country needs.
00:10:35.740 He's the leader
00:10:36.460 which stands for bringing our country.
00:10:40.200 Make America Great
00:10:40.980 is not just a slogan.
00:10:42.820 It is a mission statement.
00:10:45.540 It is a way of life.
00:10:47.420 It is a full focus
00:10:48.680 of President Trump
00:10:49.500 and those of us
00:10:50.180 who are honored
00:10:50.980 to be working for him.
00:10:52.360 And while the Democrats
00:10:53.500 and Rhino Republicans
00:10:55.140 are focused on
00:10:56.380 tearing our country down,
00:10:58.000 President Trump is focused
00:10:58.920 on talking to the people
00:10:59.780 and the issues that matter.
00:11:01.460 Everything from farming
00:11:02.600 to, of course, ethanol
00:11:03.980 but also broader
00:11:05.540 to the border,
00:11:06.440 every town of Border Town
00:11:07.540 to energy,
00:11:08.700 making sure people
00:11:09.300 can afford
00:11:09.900 their tank of gas.
00:11:11.780 And yes,
00:11:12.500 to banks
00:11:13.040 and making sure
00:11:13.920 they are able to,
00:11:15.480 without spending
00:11:16.520 23 trillion more dollars,
00:11:18.940 be secure
00:11:19.660 and safe
00:11:20.320 in their own
00:11:21.500 banking system.
00:11:22.600 Because right now,
00:11:23.660 what we have going on
00:11:24.640 in this country
00:11:25.100 is a total destruction
00:11:26.240 of America,
00:11:27.340 a lot of America.
00:11:28.320 And it is extremely,
00:11:29.980 extremely troubling.
00:11:30.820 We talked about
00:11:33.280 managed decline
00:11:34.040 of our country.
00:11:34.820 I want you to connect
00:11:36.160 three dots to me.
00:11:37.860 The poor folks
00:11:38.740 in Ukraine,
00:11:39.480 I think it's the bloodiest
00:11:40.440 weekend of the war
00:11:41.340 as they are just,
00:11:42.460 Russia and the Ukrainians
00:11:44.260 are just going pound
00:11:45.160 for pound
00:11:45.740 on missile attacks,
00:11:47.400 artillery attacks
00:11:48.200 around Bakhmut.
00:11:49.220 I think I heard
00:11:50.020 the highest casualties
00:11:50.860 of the entire war.
00:11:52.680 Somewhere I read
00:11:53.340 it might be as many
00:11:54.020 as 1,500 troops,
00:11:55.760 not even civilians,
00:11:56.600 on both sides,
00:11:57.380 combined on both sides
00:11:58.300 as they unleash
00:11:59.060 each other,
00:11:59.580 artillery barrages,
00:12:00.980 rocket barrages.
00:12:02.160 You've got Ukraine,
00:12:03.400 you've got El Paso
00:12:04.420 where you had
00:12:05.380 the illegal aliens
00:12:08.400 surge at the port
00:12:09.920 of entry,
00:12:10.740 2,000 military-age men
00:12:13.840 from Venezuela,
00:12:15.220 and then you had
00:12:15.760 Silicon Valley.
00:12:16.580 Connect those dots.
00:12:17.740 Is America
00:12:18.900 in managed decline
00:12:19.820 by our elites
00:12:20.340 or are we in a free fall
00:12:21.180 right now?
00:12:22.700 A free fall.
00:12:23.940 And, you know,
00:12:24.280 when they said,
00:12:24.740 well, why are you
00:12:25.260 yelling out front?
00:12:26.260 I'll tell you,
00:12:26.780 the last time I saw
00:12:27.520 Janet Yellen speak,
00:12:28.300 and so she was
00:12:29.200 halfway around
00:12:29.740 the world in Ukraine.
00:12:31.020 And I bet you
00:12:31.580 that bank,
00:12:32.120 Amalgamated Bank,
00:12:33.200 had something to do
00:12:33.880 with paying her money
00:12:34.660 to go over that,
00:12:35.800 you know,
00:12:36.100 whether it's directly,
00:12:37.180 whether it's
00:12:37.580 through donations,
00:12:38.780 who knows?
00:12:40.300 So if you look at it,
00:12:41.640 the continued funding
00:12:43.320 for Ukraine
00:12:44.360 by the Treasury,
00:12:46.100 the continued festering
00:12:49.920 of the fire
00:12:50.960 surrounded by nuclear reactors
00:12:52.800 in Ukraine,
00:12:53.880 it is deeply unacceptable.
00:12:56.300 And then you have
00:12:56.920 banks failing,
00:12:57.880 America's not able
00:12:59.500 to access their money
00:13:01.420 without a $20 trillion
00:13:04.020 guarantee from the
00:13:05.700 federal government
00:13:06.380 while we're funding
00:13:07.460 Ukraine and borrowing
00:13:09.540 more and more money
00:13:10.300 from the Chinese
00:13:10.860 Communist Party.
00:13:12.020 America is in free fall,
00:13:13.480 and that's why we need
00:13:14.100 President Trump
00:13:14.800 back as soon as possible
00:13:16.320 because look what we were
00:13:17.580 just three years ago.
00:13:18.920 We were down,
00:13:19.560 before COVID,
00:13:21.160 and yes,
00:13:21.580 after COVID,
00:13:22.520 after President Trump
00:13:23.280 got us through
00:13:23.720 the worst of COVID,
00:13:24.380 dominating financially,
00:13:26.320 dominating militarily,
00:13:27.920 dominating on the world stage
00:13:29.040 and domestically.
00:13:29.760 And right now,
00:13:30.460 we are an absolute embarrassment.
00:13:32.560 How do you think
00:13:33.600 the mullahs in Iran,
00:13:35.140 the Chinese Communist Party,
00:13:36.480 and yes,
00:13:36.720 Vladimir Putin,
00:13:37.640 how do you think
00:13:38.280 they're looking at the failure
00:13:40.300 of the Democrats'
00:13:41.720 second or first favorite
00:13:42.760 bank between
00:13:43.260 S&P and Amalgamated?
00:13:44.440 They're looking at it
00:13:45.600 and saying
00:13:46.040 that this is a total
00:13:47.520 and complete embarrassment.
00:13:49.160 And by the way,
00:13:49.980 subtle news today,
00:13:50.840 James Comer
00:13:51.500 has subpoenaed
00:13:52.880 financial information
00:13:53.880 from Bank of America
00:13:54.700 for all of the associates
00:13:56.420 of the Biden crime family.
00:13:59.180 Accountability is here,
00:14:00.840 and accountability
00:14:01.460 is not going to be pretty
00:14:02.860 for the Bidens
00:14:03.760 and their comrades.
00:14:06.280 Yeah,
00:14:06.840 when you start
00:14:07.320 getting bank records,
00:14:08.780 you're looking to do
00:14:09.480 a deep dive for us.
00:14:10.980 By the way,
00:14:11.460 tonight we are going
00:14:12.420 to live stream,
00:14:13.080 I think Real America's Voice
00:14:14.480 will be covering it.
00:14:15.060 We're going to pick it up
00:14:15.900 on their coverage
00:14:17.700 on Getter,
00:14:19.480 the Savage Angels,
00:14:20.720 Jane Zirkle,
00:14:21.980 Grace Chung,
00:14:23.640 Maureen Bannon
00:14:24.300 are going to be doing coverage.
00:14:25.620 I'll jump into the live chat.
00:14:26.920 I want to make sure
00:14:27.300 everybody we're covering
00:14:28.140 President Trump
00:14:29.240 all the wall.
00:14:30.200 Boris,
00:14:30.540 how do people get to you?
00:14:33.780 Because I think now,
00:14:34.660 particularly people
00:14:35.240 interested in the campaign
00:14:36.240 need to get your morning newsletter
00:14:37.940 and need to follow you
00:14:39.800 on social media.
00:14:41.560 Steve,
00:14:42.120 an honor to be with you.
00:14:43.020 And again,
00:14:43.340 I want to point to something
00:14:43.980 that I don't think
00:14:44.440 has been discussed.
00:14:45.520 What is going to happen
00:14:46.380 to that bank,
00:14:47.000 that amalgamated bank,
00:14:48.040 that talks about
00:14:48.720 all political organizations
00:14:50.360 and donating to Democrat causes?
00:14:53.940 If SVD is an older
00:14:55.380 Democrat bank,
00:14:56.220 it's going to be very telling
00:14:58.020 to see what happens
00:14:58.800 to amalgamate
00:14:59.360 and just how hard
00:15:00.240 the complete corrupt Democrats
00:15:02.720 work to shore it up.
00:15:04.960 Keep an eye on that.
00:15:06.320 On broader,
00:15:07.040 all eyes on Iowa tonight,
00:15:08.160 my information,
00:15:09.100 the website is
00:15:09.660 boroscp.com,
00:15:10.540 hop on boroscp.com,
00:15:11.960 hop on getter at boroscp.
00:15:13.420 Twitter at boroscp.com,
00:15:14.460 hop on true social
00:15:15.060 at borosc,
00:15:15.600 the hottest on the gram,
00:15:17.020 boros underscore epstein.
00:15:18.460 Stay strong,
00:15:19.060 God bless all offense,
00:15:19.960 and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:15:23.180 Boris, thank you.
00:15:23.900 Not yours.
00:15:24.400 What I want to do,
00:15:25.200 we got one for Joanne,
00:15:26.160 but I want to go back
00:15:26.940 and play the one
00:15:27.560 we just played for Boris
00:15:28.460 because I want to
00:15:29.000 break this down
00:15:29.980 for the audience
00:15:30.560 and make sure
00:15:31.040 that they fully understand
00:15:33.060 what we're talking about.
00:15:33.520 Let's go ahead and play
00:15:34.000 the cold over for Boris
00:15:34.900 that night.
00:15:36.040 I want to start very quickly
00:15:37.180 with banking crisis.
00:15:38.040 Maria Teresa,
00:15:38.480 you were just saying
00:15:39.060 you were surprised
00:15:39.760 you haven't seen
00:15:40.240 Powell or Yellen
00:15:41.640 out more forcefully already.
00:15:43.980 Jay Powell,
00:15:44.420 the Federal Reserve Chair.
00:15:45.200 If you actually,
00:15:45.740 you look at which bank this is,
00:15:47.300 this is the Silicon Valley Bank.
00:15:48.680 This is a startup bank.
00:15:49.620 This is also oftentimes
00:15:50.620 the Democratic ATM bank
00:15:52.300 of all those investors.
00:15:53.800 And so the fact
00:15:54.500 that you don't have
00:15:55.220 these individuals,
00:15:55.880 the investors that invest
00:15:56.960 in the people,
00:15:57.540 so the fact that
00:15:58.440 you don't have someone
00:15:59.200 actually talking
00:15:59.880 from the administration
00:16:00.560 and being so forceful,
00:16:01.960 I do think that
00:16:02.480 we're going to see
00:16:03.640 our Republicans saying,
00:16:04.880 oh, you shouldn't
00:16:05.240 bail this one out.
00:16:06.100 And it's going to be,
00:16:06.820 I think,
00:16:06.960 very much on a long
00:16:07.820 political line.
00:16:10.400 How did this bank,
00:16:11.800 which started out,
00:16:13.100 I think in the 80s,
00:16:14.720 over a poker game
00:16:15.700 or something,
00:16:16.040 that should do it,
00:16:16.660 how did it become
00:16:17.360 such a powerhouse?
00:16:18.200 How did it become
00:16:18.580 the 16th largest bank
00:16:19.740 in the nation?
00:16:20.180 And how did it become,
00:16:21.620 even punched much higher
00:16:22.780 above their weight than that?
00:16:24.260 Part of this ties to
00:16:25.660 Nancy Pelosi
00:16:27.180 and money
00:16:28.220 and venture capital
00:16:29.040 private equity
00:16:29.740 and hedge funds
00:16:30.520 in the Bay Area,
00:16:32.620 Silicon Valley,
00:16:33.460 and then, of course,
00:16:34.060 San Francisco.
00:16:35.620 And when Nancy Pelosi
00:16:36.400 was elected to Congress,
00:16:37.580 remember,
00:16:37.820 she kind of won,
00:16:38.640 I think somebody passed away,
00:16:39.760 she ran a primary,
00:16:40.620 she won the seat,
00:16:41.760 I think she first time
00:16:43.020 was against,
00:16:43.440 I don't know,
00:16:43.720 18 or 19 people.
00:16:45.040 She was kind of
00:16:45.780 a fire-breathing
00:16:46.600 anti-CCP.
00:16:48.020 This was around
00:16:48.480 Tiananmen Square.
00:16:49.380 She was very anti
00:16:50.240 the CCP,
00:16:51.680 what they had done.
00:16:52.840 I think she had
00:16:53.520 a number of Asian Americans
00:16:54.760 in her district
00:16:55.640 and she was a real
00:16:56.440 fire-breather.
00:16:57.740 And Nancy Pelosi,
00:16:58.260 I think she had been
00:16:59.060 on a school board
00:16:59.920 or she was very
00:17:00.440 interested in education
00:17:01.380 through her children
00:17:02.100 and, you know,
00:17:02.720 it was kind of
00:17:03.100 you're going to be
00:17:03.980 your classic backbencher.
00:17:06.180 The rise of Nancy Pelosi
00:17:07.780 and the rise of
00:17:08.320 Silicon Valley Bank
00:17:09.780 to be powerhouses
00:17:10.460 are both because
00:17:11.580 of the massive tech surge
00:17:13.420 in the Clinton administration
00:17:15.640 and then all the way
00:17:16.640 through to today
00:17:18.080 where really Silicon Valley
00:17:19.320 went to become
00:17:20.320 a major driver,
00:17:21.420 if not the major driver,
00:17:22.720 of the American economy.
00:17:24.020 What Nancy Pelosi
00:17:24.720 thought of
00:17:25.480 was to shake down
00:17:27.960 the investment banks
00:17:29.280 in San Francisco
00:17:31.180 and the venture capitalists
00:17:33.340 on Sand Hill Road
00:17:34.240 or down in Palo Alto.
00:17:35.280 Nobody really hit them up
00:17:36.320 for donations before.
00:17:37.940 People would always
00:17:38.480 go to New York,
00:17:39.200 they'd go to Palm Beach,
00:17:40.000 they'd go to L.A.
00:17:41.360 They would go,
00:17:42.100 you know,
00:17:42.320 they'd go hit the oil guys
00:17:43.520 down in Dallas.
00:17:44.680 Nobody had systematically
00:17:46.620 shaken down
00:17:48.200 the new money,
00:17:49.480 the new establishment,
00:17:50.520 the new oligarchs.
00:17:51.340 And that would be
00:17:51.800 the venture capitalists
00:17:52.920 on what's called
00:17:53.420 Sand Hill Road
00:17:54.320 down there in Palo Alto
00:17:56.000 and also the four horsemen
00:17:57.800 with these smaller
00:17:58.420 investment banks,
00:17:59.260 Robertson Stevens,
00:18:00.120 Montgomery Securities,
00:18:01.520 the four horsemen
00:18:02.320 of these investment banks
00:18:04.580 that were there
00:18:05.060 taking all these IPOs.
00:18:06.620 That's what Nancy Pelosi
00:18:07.320 remember later,
00:18:07.940 Peter Schweitzer did the book
00:18:09.020 talking about
00:18:10.260 all these elites
00:18:11.020 that had been kissed
00:18:12.220 into these deals.
00:18:13.140 She would get friends
00:18:13.760 and family a stock,
00:18:15.480 which is the way
00:18:16.400 the investment banks
00:18:17.180 make their clients money.
00:18:18.560 They kiss you
00:18:19.280 into a friends and family
00:18:20.300 round in venture capital.
00:18:21.580 Then they give you
00:18:22.040 some other equity
00:18:22.780 as these things get
00:18:24.720 a deal priced out
00:18:26.180 to our IPO
00:18:26.800 and then they throw
00:18:27.320 some extra stock
00:18:28.040 in for the IPO.
00:18:29.300 IPO is launched,
00:18:30.280 you're in the shoe,
00:18:31.020 bang,
00:18:31.380 you get to blow out
00:18:32.200 at the IPO price,
00:18:33.600 you keep some other money later.
00:18:34.760 But this is how her husband,
00:18:36.680 who was no,
00:18:37.460 you know,
00:18:37.680 he's not an investment genius.
00:18:39.040 I think he ran a,
00:18:40.080 I think he ran like
00:18:40.780 a car service,
00:18:41.700 like a charging rider,
00:18:42.880 like a Uber service
00:18:44.060 back in those days.
00:18:45.320 And remember,
00:18:45.700 because Nancy Pelosi's
00:18:46.740 father is the mobbed up
00:18:48.640 mayor of Baltimore,
00:18:50.080 my mom's hometown.
00:18:52.940 Nancy Pelosi's from there,
00:18:54.860 but she made a fortune,
00:18:56.860 made herself very rich.
00:18:58.040 But more importantly,
00:18:58.780 I think it was billions
00:18:59.640 of dollars.
00:19:00.680 She became,
00:19:01.360 her rise to power
00:19:02.500 was directly related
00:19:03.940 to her ability
00:19:05.100 to raise money.
00:19:06.180 Silicon Valley banks
00:19:07.000 started small,
00:19:07.660 but then they came up
00:19:08.440 with this thing
00:19:09.520 called venture lending,
00:19:10.900 right?
00:19:11.160 And all this is a scam.
00:19:12.660 In other words,
00:19:13.040 the venture capitalist
00:19:13.760 puts in money
00:19:14.380 in back of the company,
00:19:15.140 like the payroll company
00:19:16.040 you saw in the earlier hour.
00:19:17.720 They put equity in,
00:19:19.840 but they don't want
00:19:20.300 to put too much in
00:19:20.980 because it makes it
00:19:21.720 harder to get return.
00:19:23.160 It makes it harder
00:19:23.880 to get a juiced up
00:19:24.820 return on equity.
00:19:26.160 You always want leverage
00:19:27.020 in a deal,
00:19:27.440 like in a real estate deal.
00:19:28.440 Your mortgage is leveraged
00:19:29.760 or an LBO
00:19:30.520 where you're,
00:19:31.060 you're borrowing
00:19:31.940 as much money
00:19:32.800 as you possibly can
00:19:33.560 against the bricks
00:19:34.180 and mortar business,
00:19:34.880 against the cashflow,
00:19:35.700 because then you can
00:19:36.360 multiply your,
00:19:38.520 this leverage
00:19:39.200 gives you the ability
00:19:39.820 to multiply your returns.
00:19:41.660 The same in,
00:19:42.340 in venture capital
00:19:43.400 through Silicon Valley Bank
00:19:44.680 where they had these
00:19:45.300 essentially bogus
00:19:47.480 venture loans,
00:19:48.800 which is essentially
00:19:49.640 just lending
00:19:50.440 to the venture capitalists
00:19:52.240 the money of the depositors,
00:19:54.260 which much of the time
00:19:55.300 was kind of their cash
00:19:56.320 to make sure
00:19:57.040 they could juice the returns
00:19:58.060 so they didn't have
00:19:58.600 to put in 10 main of equity,
00:20:00.420 we'll put in six
00:20:01.220 and we'll borrow four in venture
00:20:02.560 and also made it
00:20:03.400 less dilutive
00:20:04.380 for the management team.
00:20:05.560 So the,
00:20:05.800 the cool kids table
00:20:07.540 in,
00:20:08.320 in,
00:20:08.900 in Silicon Valley,
00:20:09.780 that's what it was,
00:20:10.280 like the cool kids table
00:20:11.220 in high school.
00:20:11.900 They had insiders
00:20:12.980 and insiders deals.
00:20:13.920 In fact,
00:20:14.760 they gave them
00:20:15.240 all these mortgages
00:20:16.300 because obviously
00:20:17.240 the real estate prices
00:20:18.140 exploded up there.
00:20:19.080 They give them
00:20:19.440 under market mortgages.
00:20:21.160 They would give them
00:20:21.680 ability to buy
00:20:22.760 additional stock
00:20:23.580 with the ability
00:20:24.640 to margin their stock
00:20:25.780 and give them loans.
00:20:27.240 This was an entire system.
00:20:28.960 And then the other thing,
00:20:30.260 what the young woman
00:20:31.520 analyst said
00:20:32.420 on Chuck Todd,
00:20:33.580 it was an ATM
00:20:34.460 because this is where
00:20:35.820 all the,
00:20:36.340 this is where all
00:20:36.820 the Democrats hung out.
00:20:38.280 This was the oligarchs bank.
00:20:39.740 What you had here
00:20:40.900 was the oligarchs bank
00:20:41.920 and they used it like that.
00:20:43.300 And so to know
00:20:44.880 and to go through
00:20:45.900 of what we know now,
00:20:47.640 this,
00:20:48.100 remember,
00:20:48.260 most commercial banks
00:20:49.400 should have a three times leverage,
00:20:51.080 four times leverage,
00:20:51.800 five times leverage.
00:20:52.900 I don't know,
00:20:53.480 maybe six.
00:20:54.460 I'm old school.
00:20:55.380 Investment banks,
00:20:56.760 eight to one,
00:20:58.120 you know,
00:20:58.300 10 to eight to one,
00:20:59.540 you know,
00:21:00.180 you're even getting dicey there.
00:21:01.880 In the financial crisis
00:21:03.420 of 20,
00:21:04.940 of 2008,
00:21:06.720 remember the criticism
00:21:07.660 that the investment banks
00:21:08.680 were up to 20 leverage,
00:21:09.960 20 to one,
00:21:10.760 25 to one,
00:21:11.500 some 30 to one,
00:21:12.340 I think 135 to one.
00:21:14.120 The leverage on this bank,
00:21:15.620 a commercial bank,
00:21:16.460 supposedly was 185 to one.
00:21:19.000 This bank has been insolvent
00:21:20.340 since at least
00:21:21.920 the fourth quarter
00:21:22.600 of last year.
00:21:23.340 And yet they let it,
00:21:24.340 they let it,
00:21:25.220 they let it operate.
00:21:27.460 So,
00:21:28.040 and you see why
00:21:28.920 this is a democratic regime
00:21:31.180 and they run
00:21:32.400 with an iron fist.
00:21:33.240 Of course,
00:21:33.540 California is,
00:21:34.280 is new Gavin Newsom.
00:21:35.560 who's the,
00:21:36.220 what,
00:21:36.420 the nephew
00:21:36.860 of Nancy Pelosi.
00:21:38.560 These people know
00:21:39.320 how the system works.
00:21:40.580 They're total insiders
00:21:41.780 and you're a total
00:21:43.060 and complete outsider.
00:21:44.660 One of the reasons
00:21:45.080 we have this show
00:21:45.720 is try to make sure
00:21:46.820 that you have
00:21:47.380 the information
00:21:48.080 and the access
00:21:48.720 and the,
00:21:49.280 and the,
00:21:50.760 and the,
00:21:51.220 and the structure
00:21:51.940 of,
00:21:52.940 of process,
00:21:54.300 processes
00:21:54.980 and critical paths
00:21:56.860 so that you kind of
00:21:57.780 know what's going down.
00:21:58.720 This is a total
00:21:59.820 100% scam.
00:22:01.180 There's no doubt about it.
00:22:01.960 And you're paying
00:22:02.620 the ticket,
00:22:03.100 but it is,
00:22:03.980 the yesterday they went
00:22:04.560 and said,
00:22:04.800 we're not going to give,
00:22:05.780 we're not going to give
00:22:07.080 bailouts.
00:22:08.160 Remember?
00:22:08.720 And that's for the David Sachs
00:22:10.240 of the world
00:22:10.600 and the venture capital
00:22:11.440 of the oligarchs,
00:22:12.060 that wasn't good enough.
00:22:12.820 They needed rock solid guarantees.
00:22:14.780 And today,
00:22:15.780 they guaranteed
00:22:16.860 the $150 billion,
00:22:20.440 $150 billion
00:22:22.020 that are,
00:22:23.540 that are deposits
00:22:25.420 that are uninsured deposits.
00:22:28.100 Now,
00:22:28.540 the question is,
00:22:29.240 how did they go?
00:22:29.780 I heard their cash
00:22:30.700 went from $42 billion
00:22:31.780 down to negative
00:22:32.520 one the other day.
00:22:33.340 We've got to figure out
00:22:34.040 how much cash
00:22:34.900 on the balance sheet.
00:22:35.700 The reason this bank
00:22:36.800 wasn't sold
00:22:37.560 to one of the bigger,
00:22:38.720 more sophisticated
00:22:39.280 financial institutions
00:22:40.440 over the weekend,
00:22:40.940 JPMorgan said we're out,
00:22:41.980 PNC said we're out,
00:22:42.940 others said we're out,
00:22:43.740 is that people can't make
00:22:46.220 head and tails
00:22:46.700 of what's going on here.
00:22:48.620 This is all directly,
00:22:50.800 directly related
00:22:51.660 to the Biden regime's,
00:22:53.720 to the Biden regime's
00:22:54.780 economic policies,
00:22:55.880 the Biden regime's,
00:22:57.100 the maniacal madness
00:22:59.440 of this spending,
00:23:00.900 of what they've added
00:23:01.600 to the national debt.
00:23:02.400 But this ties back
00:23:03.300 to why the debt crisis
00:23:04.640 is so important,
00:23:05.780 and particularly
00:23:06.300 the debt ceiling,
00:23:07.600 and why your voice
00:23:08.440 is so important.
00:23:10.360 And you've got to call
00:23:11.720 your congressman.
00:23:12.460 In fact,
00:23:12.720 I want to make sure
00:23:13.180 everybody's got the number.
00:23:14.800 The number up here
00:23:15.700 is to be,
00:23:16.160 was it two,
00:23:17.620 I'll get this number
00:23:18.460 from earlier today.
00:23:20.040 It's 202.
00:23:21.800 If I can just go down,
00:23:23.300 202,
00:23:24.100 was it 225-3121,
00:23:26.680 is the Senate.
00:23:27.500 That's 202.
00:23:28.460 I remember that.
00:23:29.700 I'm not getting too old
00:23:30.380 for this game.
00:23:31.020 My producers always
00:23:31.860 give me stink eye
00:23:32.560 like I'm some old man.
00:23:34.520 202-225-3121.
00:23:38.020 That's the switchboard
00:23:38.840 for the Senate.
00:23:39.400 You've got all the
00:23:39.820 collaborationists over there,
00:23:41.040 the 18 collaborationists.
00:23:42.500 They're there with Mitch McConnell.
00:23:44.520 202-225-3121.
00:23:46.800 Give them a piece of your mind.
00:23:48.040 And 202-202-224-3121
00:23:52.120 is the House.
00:23:53.300 And you've got to ask
00:23:54.000 these guys,
00:23:54.400 say, look,
00:23:54.940 you need to step up here.
00:23:56.940 This is a Democratic ATM.
00:23:58.460 First off,
00:23:58.900 it would be horrible
00:24:00.000 if it wasn't a Democratic ATM.
00:24:02.660 It would be absolutely awful
00:24:03.700 and it should not happen.
00:24:05.040 They didn't bail out
00:24:05.720 the people in East Palestine.
00:24:07.440 You saw the hearing
00:24:08.260 in Yuma last week
00:24:09.640 with the hospital
00:24:10.860 with 26 million in debt
00:24:11.920 because the illegal aliens
00:24:13.040 are using them.
00:24:13.420 They can't get paid back.
00:24:14.640 You heard about
00:24:15.200 the education system.
00:24:16.380 You heard about
00:24:16.820 the law enforcement system.
00:24:18.320 You heard about
00:24:19.140 the healthcare system
00:24:21.040 that's collapsing.
00:24:22.680 They ain't bailing out Yuma.
00:24:24.460 They certainly are not
00:24:25.360 bailing out East Palestine, Ohio.
00:24:27.380 Okay?
00:24:28.300 They're not bailing out El Paso
00:24:30.200 right now.
00:24:31.340 You saw the,
00:24:32.380 really, the invasion
00:24:33.600 yesterday.
00:24:34.200 Couldn't have been more
00:24:34.720 in your face.
00:24:35.260 People demanding,
00:24:36.040 hey, we heard
00:24:36.700 that you're going to let us in.
00:24:38.280 And you don't have a choice.
00:24:39.160 You don't have a country.
00:24:39.960 You don't really have sovereignty.
00:24:41.100 We're going to come in.
00:24:41.640 We're 2,000 military age
00:24:43.300 males from Venezuela
00:24:45.140 and we're coming in.
00:24:46.060 I wonder how many
00:24:47.380 of those guys
00:24:48.060 came from the prisons
00:24:48.920 that they're opening up.
00:24:49.780 How many bad guys?
00:24:50.600 How many,
00:24:50.740 how many agents
00:24:52.980 of disruption
00:24:53.940 are in that group?
00:24:55.120 Right?
00:24:55.260 I'm sure they're all
00:24:55.840 choir boys.
00:24:56.900 Right?
00:24:57.320 You see the destruction
00:24:58.480 everywhere.
00:24:58.960 And where's Janet Yellen been?
00:25:00.860 Instead of overseeing
00:25:02.660 and regulating these banks
00:25:04.040 and being on top of things,
00:25:05.700 she's schlepping over
00:25:07.540 to Ukraine
00:25:08.640 and some big photo op
00:25:09.700 would put,
00:25:10.400 you know,
00:25:10.660 she's walking down
00:25:11.560 with the roses.
00:25:12.100 She's got the big
00:25:12.720 crocodile tears coming down.
00:25:14.240 We don't want to see any of that.
00:25:15.500 That's of no interest to us.
00:25:17.020 That's of interest
00:25:17.560 to the Ukrainian people
00:25:18.400 and not talking about
00:25:19.660 their courage
00:25:20.180 and their valor
00:25:20.740 and other people
00:25:21.800 want to go over there.
00:25:22.300 It's fine.
00:25:22.580 Your Secretary of Treasury
00:25:23.720 of the United States of America
00:25:24.680 for you to go over
00:25:25.680 and sit there
00:25:26.700 and guarantee
00:25:27.240 their pension funds
00:25:28.520 and guarantee
00:25:29.160 their health care
00:25:30.440 payments,
00:25:31.680 guarantee their government
00:25:32.740 with $5 billion cash
00:25:33.980 a month
00:25:34.360 and you do not
00:25:36.020 go to East Palestine
00:25:37.900 and talk to those folks.
00:25:39.140 You don't go to Yuma, Arizona
00:25:40.200 and talk to those folks.
00:25:41.620 You're disgusting.
00:25:42.800 It's the reason we find you
00:25:43.880 revolting and disgusting
00:25:45.300 because guess what?
00:25:46.820 You are revolting
00:25:47.740 and disgusting.
00:25:48.840 And then what you do
00:25:50.120 is you set up this sham
00:25:51.260 that even you yesterday,
00:25:52.760 the Financial Times
00:25:53.500 of London quoted,
00:25:54.260 you dismissed bailouts.
00:25:56.860 You dismissed bailouts
00:25:58.380 of SPV
00:25:59.120 and then you lied
00:26:00.060 because you bailed them out.
00:26:02.200 First off,
00:26:02.780 it's impossible.
00:26:03.520 It's $150 billion
00:26:04.640 of deposit,
00:26:05.640 uninsured deposits right there.
00:26:06.900 You don't have $100 billion
00:26:07.740 in the FDIC.
00:26:09.640 I think it's $100,
00:26:10.300 $125 about there.
00:26:11.880 You're going to have
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00:26:15.980 It's a bailout.
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00:26:18.080 And you look the people
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00:26:21.360 We're going to take
00:26:21.840 a short commercial break.
00:26:22.660 We've got a lot more
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00:26:23.740 and we're going to get to it all.
00:26:25.200 Joe Allen's going to join.
00:26:26.020 We're also going to talk about
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00:31:26.120 The electronic
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00:31:29.120 a vocabulary
00:31:29.740 and instrumentation
00:31:31.480 that is just as new
00:31:32.560 to me
00:31:32.960 as the printing press
00:31:34.200 was when Gutenberg
00:31:35.120 came along
00:31:35.840 a few hundred years ago
00:31:37.240 and said,
00:31:37.620 hey,
00:31:38.200 do you know
00:31:38.740 that you can turn
00:31:39.520 on to God
00:31:40.360 with a printed word?
00:31:42.540 Electronics
00:31:43.060 is going to be
00:31:45.060 the language
00:31:45.660 of the theology
00:31:47.480 of the future.
00:31:48.460 It may be
00:31:48.920 that we're heading
00:31:49.540 for an Orwellian world
00:31:50.660 in which IBM
00:31:51.440 itself will be
00:31:52.960 will assume
00:31:53.800 some sort of
00:31:54.360 metaphysical reality
00:31:55.320 but I say
00:31:55.820 that if that happens
00:31:57.220 we will have lost
00:31:58.760 whatever it is
00:31:59.640 that makes civilization
00:32:00.840 take any meaning at all.
00:32:02.140 I don't think it's that easy
00:32:02.820 to form new religions.
00:32:04.260 Well, I've been
00:32:04.880 an admirer of Aleister Crowley.
00:32:06.460 I think that
00:32:06.980 I'm carrying on
00:32:07.900 much of the work
00:32:08.620 that he started
00:32:10.360 over a hundred years ago
00:32:11.820 and I think
00:32:12.160 the 60s themselves.
00:32:13.580 You know,
00:32:13.800 Crowley said,
00:32:15.080 do what thou wilt
00:32:16.260 shall be the whole of the law
00:32:17.960 under love.
00:32:18.780 It was a very powerful statement.
00:32:20.520 I'm sorry he isn't around now
00:32:21.540 to appreciate
00:32:22.080 the glories that he started.
00:32:23.720 And a warning
00:32:24.220 from Tesla Motors
00:32:25.060 CEO Elon Musk
00:32:26.220 about artificial intelligence
00:32:28.120 which he has called
00:32:29.220 more dangerous
00:32:30.140 than nuclear weapons.
00:32:32.420 Musk spoke
00:32:33.100 at a symposium
00:32:33.880 at MIT.
00:32:36.080 I mean,
00:32:36.500 with artificial intelligence
00:32:37.420 we are summoning
00:32:38.080 the demon.
00:32:39.620 You know,
00:32:39.960 you know those stories
00:32:40.820 where there's the guy
00:32:42.100 with the pentagram
00:32:42.820 and the holy water
00:32:43.520 and he's like,
00:32:44.040 yeah,
00:32:44.180 he's sure he can
00:32:44.700 control the demon.
00:32:46.300 It doesn't work out.
00:32:47.220 I mean,
00:32:48.400 it seems to me
00:32:48.840 some time ago
00:32:49.420 that you could
00:32:51.200 sort of think
00:32:51.680 of humanity
00:32:52.360 as a biological
00:32:53.340 bootloader
00:32:53.960 for digital superintelligence.
00:32:56.300 Well,
00:32:56.780 computers actually
00:32:57.460 are already
00:32:58.080 much smarter
00:32:58.620 than people
00:32:59.360 on so many dimensions.
00:33:00.620 We just keep
00:33:01.020 moving the goalposts.
00:33:02.480 Basically,
00:33:03.080 there's just a smaller
00:33:03.900 and smaller corner
00:33:04.760 of intellectual pursuits
00:33:07.520 that humans
00:33:08.260 are better than computers.
00:33:10.540 and that every year
00:33:12.220 it gets smaller
00:33:13.540 and smaller
00:33:14.440 and soon
00:33:15.780 we will be far,
00:33:16.760 far surpassed
00:33:17.500 in every single way.
00:33:18.860 I don't think
00:33:19.600 artificial intelligence
00:33:21.500 is a threat.
00:33:22.920 People like us,
00:33:24.200 street smart,
00:33:25.060 we're never scared
00:33:25.800 of that.
00:33:26.460 We think it's
00:33:27.200 a great fun
00:33:27.980 and we want
00:33:28.880 to change ourselves
00:33:30.240 to embrace it.
00:33:31.700 I don't know,
00:33:32.080 man,
00:33:32.220 that's like
00:33:32.560 famous last words.
00:33:34.040 It was like
00:33:34.480 ChatGPT's
00:33:35.320 blind version
00:33:37.060 of like
00:33:37.480 throwing the ideals
00:33:38.380 at a place
00:33:38.820 where they were
00:33:39.200 exactly the wrong
00:33:40.040 ideals to solve
00:33:40.760 the problem
00:33:41.240 when the problem
00:33:41.840 is that
00:33:42.300 demon summoning
00:33:43.520 is easy
00:33:44.040 and angel summoning
00:33:45.120 is much harder.
00:33:46.460 Open sourcing
00:33:47.180 all the demon summoning
00:33:48.320 circles is not
00:33:49.060 the correct solution.
00:33:50.280 I'm not even using
00:33:51.300 and I'm using
00:33:52.180 Elon Musk's
00:33:52.900 own terminology here.
00:33:53.940 They talk about
00:33:54.440 AI is summoning
00:33:55.180 the demon,
00:33:55.720 which,
00:33:55.980 you know,
00:33:56.200 not accurate,
00:33:57.080 but,
00:33:57.560 and then the solution
00:33:58.020 was to put a demon
00:33:58.780 summoning circle
00:33:59.440 in every household.
00:34:02.360 Okay,
00:34:02.980 welcome back.
00:34:03.920 By the way,
00:34:04.340 we take great pride
00:34:05.240 here at the War Room
00:34:06.020 and our cold opens
00:34:07.020 in the morning
00:34:07.860 and afternoon show
00:34:08.600 that we pull
00:34:09.680 from,
00:34:10.080 you know,
00:34:10.340 MSNBC and CNN
00:34:11.600 to let you see
00:34:12.380 what people
00:34:12.900 are really thinking
00:34:14.260 about you.
00:34:15.920 At first,
00:34:16.380 when we started
00:34:16.720 doing it,
00:34:17.280 you know,
00:34:17.440 the audience hated it.
00:34:18.220 I can't stand
00:34:18.820 the sound
00:34:19.240 of Rachel Maddow's
00:34:20.220 voice.
00:34:21.180 Now they're addicted
00:34:21.960 to it as we put
00:34:22.760 these together
00:34:23.460 from the financial
00:34:24.200 press,
00:34:24.820 the business press,
00:34:25.960 and of course
00:34:26.340 what's happening
00:34:26.740 in politics.
00:34:27.660 I might say,
00:34:28.600 though,
00:34:28.740 I just want to make
00:34:29.200 sure you know
00:34:29.720 we're not taking
00:34:30.180 credit.
00:34:30.940 The cold opens
00:34:31.600 for Joe Allen
00:34:32.400 are all Joe Allen's
00:34:33.700 own creation.
00:34:34.420 It's not the
00:34:34.800 production team
00:34:35.540 here with the rest
00:34:36.440 of the War Room.
00:34:36.900 Joe does his own
00:34:37.720 work.
00:34:38.760 And I got to tell you,
00:34:39.340 Joe,
00:34:39.660 they are amazing.
00:34:40.820 Every time I watch
00:34:41.820 them,
00:34:42.460 my jaw drops
00:34:43.580 of where you find
00:34:45.180 this amazing footage.
00:34:46.560 They're Timothy Leary,
00:34:47.760 Buckley,
00:34:48.400 and Elon Musk.
00:34:49.560 Talk to me,
00:34:50.000 because I think
00:34:52.080 it was in the
00:34:52.840 August
00:34:53.680 New York Times,
00:34:56.560 the paper of record,
00:34:57.700 our beloved
00:34:58.160 republic,
00:34:59.220 that they're talking
00:34:59.900 about demon summoning
00:35:01.060 and would AI,
00:35:02.020 the vast pit of hell
00:35:03.500 that AI could
00:35:04.600 potentially open up
00:35:05.440 for us.
00:35:06.060 What's going on?
00:35:08.400 You know,
00:35:09.340 Steve,
00:35:09.740 yeah,
00:35:10.040 by the way,
00:35:10.680 I really appreciate
00:35:11.500 the shout out
00:35:12.160 on the cold opens.
00:35:13.720 It's a labor of love
00:35:15.260 except for I hate
00:35:15.920 my material.
00:35:18.260 The New York Times
00:35:19.940 has really become,
00:35:21.220 I think,
00:35:23.180 at least aware
00:35:24.860 of the dangers
00:35:25.720 of AI in a way
00:35:26.740 that it's sane
00:35:28.040 and yet it's tapping
00:35:29.360 into some of the
00:35:30.340 darkest elements
00:35:31.620 that all of these
00:35:33.140 sorts of transhumanists
00:35:34.300 and post-humanists
00:35:35.200 and, of course,
00:35:35.860 the anti-tech crowd
00:35:37.200 has been talking about
00:35:38.500 for a long time.
00:35:39.920 And so,
00:35:40.300 you know,
00:35:40.560 we had Maureen Dowd
00:35:41.700 talking about the possibility
00:35:43.180 of AI sentience.
00:35:44.800 We had the transcript
00:35:46.440 from Kevin Roos
00:35:47.820 who described
00:35:49.700 the Jungian shadow self
00:35:51.460 of being's use
00:35:53.260 of GPT technology.
00:35:56.320 And then yesterday,
00:35:58.220 a pretty astounding article
00:35:59.780 appeared from Ezra Klein
00:36:01.760 who I very rarely see me
00:36:03.800 agreeing with much
00:36:04.700 Ezra Klein has to say
00:36:06.220 outside of his deep knowledge
00:36:08.120 of tech.
00:36:08.720 And he has a deep knowledge
00:36:09.940 of tech.
00:36:10.440 I'll admit that readily.
00:36:12.440 But the title is
00:36:13.860 This Changes Everything.
00:36:15.120 And the first thing
00:36:17.640 I should probably quote
00:36:18.820 from it,
00:36:19.720 he quotes Paul Cristiano
00:36:23.380 who was at OpenAI.
00:36:25.420 He left OpenAI
00:36:26.300 to join the Alignment
00:36:28.640 Research Center,
00:36:30.000 like AI alignment,
00:36:31.240 aligning AI with human interests.
00:36:33.660 And with all of this onrush
00:36:35.280 of artificial intelligence,
00:36:36.760 Paul Cristiano says,
00:36:37.800 the broader intellectual world
00:36:40.380 seems to wildly overestimate
00:36:42.800 how long it will take
00:36:43.980 AI systems
00:36:44.900 to go from
00:36:45.940 large impact
00:36:47.400 on the world
00:36:48.160 to unrecognizably
00:36:51.160 transformed world.
00:36:53.440 This is more likely
00:36:54.660 to be years
00:36:55.420 than decades.
00:36:56.620 And there's a real chance
00:36:58.380 that it's months.
00:37:00.280 Now,
00:37:00.980 I've been seeing
00:37:02.080 a lot of people
00:37:03.520 say this.
00:37:04.520 A lot of them,
00:37:05.300 like Eliezer Yudkowsky
00:37:07.420 who we just heard
00:37:08.100 at the end
00:37:08.420 of that cold open.
00:37:09.980 Also,
00:37:10.740 a number of other
00:37:11.420 transhumanists
00:37:12.200 including Zoltan Isban
00:37:13.500 and others
00:37:13.960 saying that AI
00:37:15.420 is rocketing
00:37:17.280 towards
00:37:18.000 really unpredictable effects.
00:37:20.860 And we've covered
00:37:21.420 that for two years now
00:37:22.980 and it's certainly
00:37:23.540 in that time
00:37:25.040 you can see
00:37:25.960 not just the hype
00:37:27.300 but the actual capability
00:37:29.280 of a lot of these technologies
00:37:30.620 really taking off
00:37:31.680 and then the
00:37:32.160 sudden impact
00:37:33.440 on society
00:37:34.160 being beyond imminent
00:37:35.640 it's now happening.
00:37:37.620 But maybe the most
00:37:38.600 jarring part
00:37:39.420 of that article
00:37:40.420 Steve
00:37:41.020 from Ezra Klein
00:37:42.160 he talks about his
00:37:44.260 he moved to San Francisco
00:37:45.680 years ago
00:37:46.280 he talks to tech people
00:37:47.920 all the time
00:37:48.680 he says that
00:37:50.040 better than science fiction
00:37:51.860 the apt metaphors
00:37:53.520 for what they're doing
00:37:54.400 in technology
00:37:55.060 come from
00:37:55.780 occult texts
00:37:56.800 and he compares it
00:37:58.500 to an act of summoning
00:37:59.840 along with another
00:38:00.580 New York Times writer.
00:38:01.580 And Klein says
00:38:03.920 the coders
00:38:04.640 casting these spells
00:38:06.120 have no idea
00:38:07.300 what will stumble
00:38:08.480 through the portal.
00:38:10.040 And he says
00:38:10.480 that they speak
00:38:11.180 of this freely
00:38:11.940 and he says
00:38:12.940 these coders
00:38:13.660 are not naifs
00:38:14.800 who believe
00:38:15.620 their call
00:38:16.120 can be heard
00:38:16.700 only by angels.
00:38:18.360 They believe
00:38:19.300 they might
00:38:20.200 summon demons.
00:38:22.340 They are calling
00:38:23.220 anyway.
00:38:24.740 And when pressed
00:38:25.700 for why on earth
00:38:27.060 they would risk
00:38:27.960 even just the
00:38:28.860 psychological damage
00:38:29.920 let alone
00:38:30.340 any actual
00:38:30.960 material damage
00:38:31.940 from what
00:38:32.620 artificial intelligence
00:38:33.580 could do
00:38:33.900 to the infrastructure
00:38:34.700 or in warfare
00:38:35.880 or whatever
00:38:36.480 he says
00:38:37.620 that these coders
00:38:39.200 feel they have
00:38:39.980 a responsibility
00:38:40.740 to usher
00:38:41.620 this new form
00:38:42.560 of intelligence
00:38:43.300 into the world.
00:38:45.300 And
00:38:45.500 while they're
00:38:46.840 mostly speaking
00:38:47.920 of this
00:38:48.360 in terms of metaphor
00:38:49.520 not all of them
00:38:50.300 by the way
00:38:50.780 this sort of language
00:38:52.720 and these sorts of
00:38:53.560 ideas have been around
00:38:54.900 for well over
00:38:56.660 a century.
00:38:57.200 You can see it
00:38:58.440 in the old film
00:38:59.340 Metropolis
00:39:00.060 from 1927
00:39:01.340 with the robot
00:39:02.220 and the pentagram
00:39:02.960 and the sort of
00:39:04.100 deep fake virgin
00:39:05.520 and you can see it
00:39:07.560 all the way up
00:39:08.360 through the hippie
00:39:09.460 movement
00:39:09.760 with Terrence McKenna
00:39:10.920 and of course
00:39:11.800 Timothy Leary
00:39:12.800 talking about
00:39:13.760 the connection
00:39:14.260 between the occult
00:39:15.220 and technology.
00:39:16.780 A lot of people
00:39:17.660 in Silicon Valley
00:39:18.400 are also on that page
00:39:19.800 and then of course
00:39:21.420 Elon Musk
00:39:22.140 uses these same
00:39:22.940 metaphors
00:39:23.500 of summoning
00:39:24.400 the demon
00:39:25.060 when he talks
00:39:26.200 about artificial
00:39:26.920 intelligence
00:39:27.560 especially its dangers.
00:39:29.340 So it's a very
00:39:29.860 eerie time Steve
00:39:30.900 and I think
00:39:31.520 that these metaphors
00:39:32.420 are coming to the
00:39:33.100 surface of the culture
00:39:34.000 are very important
00:39:35.260 and for religious people
00:39:36.420 they are
00:39:37.200 extremely important.
00:39:39.440 Yeah.
00:39:40.640 Okay.
00:39:41.300 As we talked about
00:39:42.200 artificial intelligence
00:39:43.140 is just one aspect
00:39:44.260 of the convergence
00:39:45.200 to the singularity
00:39:46.200 whether it's
00:39:46.960 advanced chip design
00:39:48.140 quantum computing
00:39:49.240 regenerative robotics
00:39:52.800 everything to do
00:39:54.020 with CRISPR
00:39:54.660 and biotechnology
00:39:55.860 and nanotechnology
00:39:56.700 the conversion
00:39:57.360 of that
00:39:57.660 as the singularity
00:39:58.340 and AI
00:39:58.840 as we keep
00:39:59.820 talking about
00:40:00.280 it's accelerating
00:40:01.440 at an accelerating
00:40:02.280 rate.
00:40:02.820 Look I am happy
00:40:03.740 to be one of the
00:40:05.240 hopefully
00:40:06.060 the heads
00:40:07.420 of the anti-technology
00:40:08.500 of the Luddites.
00:40:09.260 I'm proud to be
00:40:09.800 a Luddite.
00:40:11.100 But before I go
00:40:12.000 we got Dr. Nicholas
00:40:13.140 Kaderes here
00:40:14.560 about big tech
00:40:15.760 and mental health
00:40:16.540 I'm going to get him
00:40:16.960 up in a second
00:40:17.540 he's going to speak
00:40:18.160 at this conference
00:40:18.940 that's being put on
00:40:20.800 by Patrick Coffin
00:40:21.760 and the guys
00:40:22.720 on hope is fuel
00:40:26.740 so I'm going to get
00:40:27.560 some hope in here
00:40:28.260 but I want to go back
00:40:29.060 to Aleister Crowley
00:40:30.200 because it was
00:40:30.580 interesting
00:40:31.100 in Timothy Leary's
00:40:32.420 discussion
00:40:32.860 when we talk about
00:40:34.440 even without the
00:40:35.340 summoning of the demons
00:40:36.200 when we just talk
00:40:36.840 about what their
00:40:37.460 watchword was
00:40:38.620 what their mantra
00:40:39.340 was was
00:40:39.880 do what thou wilt
00:40:41.200 do what thou wilt
00:40:43.140 isn't that
00:40:44.100 exactly what
00:40:45.300 this
00:40:46.000 the big tech
00:40:47.520 is freeing them
00:40:48.560 from any bounds
00:40:49.380 of social norms
00:40:50.420 or anything
00:40:51.040 forget the Judea
00:40:51.900 or Christian West
00:40:52.560 I'm talking about
00:40:53.000 any just
00:40:53.460 humanity norms
00:40:54.620 because I keep
00:40:55.380 telling people
00:40:55.800 when they say
00:40:56.100 oh they're doing
00:40:56.660 the replacement
00:40:57.200 theory about whites
00:40:58.280 with the Hispanics
00:40:59.040 I said no no no
00:40:59.780 our replacement
00:41:00.940 theory here
00:41:01.640 at the war room
00:41:02.640 is about homo sapiens
00:41:04.180 right about
00:41:04.800 about people
00:41:06.180 that are made
00:41:07.200 individuals made
00:41:07.980 in the image
00:41:08.380 of likeness
00:41:08.920 of God
00:41:09.400 and imbued
00:41:10.180 with the divine
00:41:10.920 spirit of the
00:41:11.620 Holy Spirit
00:41:12.220 isn't do what thou wilt
00:41:14.420 kind of the watchword
00:41:15.480 of these
00:41:16.440 and you see a guy
00:41:17.100 like Ezra Klein
00:41:17.920 who Ezra Klein
00:41:18.960 is all about technology
00:41:19.840 but really about polling
00:41:20.740 and practical politics
00:41:21.960 when you see him
00:41:23.080 writing something
00:41:23.540 like this
00:41:23.940 it's got this
00:41:24.400 esoteric
00:41:25.520 occult aspect to it
00:41:26.860 you really start
00:41:27.620 to get nervous
00:41:28.320 Joe Allen
00:41:29.120 100% Steve
00:41:32.560 I mean this is
00:41:33.060 something that
00:41:33.600 you know
00:41:34.160 when I first
00:41:34.820 began writing
00:41:35.580 I wrote a lot
00:41:36.180 about rock and roll
00:41:36.920 and rock and roll
00:41:37.440 culture
00:41:37.860 you know
00:41:38.620 I worked in
00:41:39.500 I worked in
00:41:40.820 entertainment
00:41:41.300 I could say
00:41:42.080 you used to give me
00:41:42.960 hell about that
00:41:43.760 but you know
00:41:44.920 I worked a lot
00:41:45.760 of concerts
00:41:46.240 hold it
00:41:46.540 hang on
00:41:49.720 Joe
00:41:49.980 when he says
00:41:50.720 entertainment
00:41:51.240 he's the guy
00:41:52.300 that put up
00:41:52.800 the sound system
00:41:53.520 when you go to
00:41:54.400 those concerts
00:41:55.060 and you see
00:41:55.820 those magnificent
00:41:56.820 how they put them out
00:41:58.180 Joe is the guy
00:41:59.040 in the rafters
00:42:00.140 without a safety belt
00:42:01.280 right
00:42:01.960 hanging that
00:42:02.500 so don't
00:42:02.820 that's
00:42:03.140 entertainment industry
00:42:04.520 broadly defined
00:42:05.500 but no
00:42:05.920 go ahead sir
00:42:07.100 I digress
00:42:08.040 yeah well
00:42:10.220 it depends on
00:42:10.840 which bar I'm at
00:42:11.600 and who I'm talking to
00:42:12.360 right
00:42:12.620 so yeah
00:42:14.040 the entertainment
00:42:16.300 industry
00:42:16.780 without a doubt
00:42:17.360 rock and roll
00:42:17.940 the whole history
00:42:18.840 of rock and roll
00:42:19.680 the entirety
00:42:20.900 of the 60s
00:42:22.280 was this
00:42:22.900 you know
00:42:23.420 suffused with these
00:42:24.440 metaphors
00:42:25.100 of the deal
00:42:26.120 with the devil
00:42:26.680 right
00:42:26.940 you think of
00:42:27.580 Robert Johnson
00:42:28.600 the famous blues
00:42:29.380 player
00:42:29.760 you know
00:42:30.840 who the white man
00:42:31.860 took the blues
00:42:32.560 from
00:42:32.960 but he took the blues
00:42:34.180 from the devil
00:42:34.740 at the crossroad
00:42:35.560 right
00:42:35.800 so that mythos
00:42:36.620 goes very very deep
00:42:37.780 and that ethos
00:42:39.200 of do what thou will
00:42:41.000 is also suffusing
00:42:42.180 that movement
00:42:42.860 right
00:42:43.160 so the entire
00:42:43.800 explosion
00:42:44.500 of the sort of
00:42:46.160 cultural revolution
00:42:47.360 in America
00:42:47.900 of the 60s
00:42:48.720 and the explosion
00:42:50.040 of what would
00:42:51.180 you know
00:42:51.440 you could say
00:42:52.040 also hip hop
00:42:52.980 and the various
00:42:53.880 other subcultures
00:42:55.700 in which rebellious
00:42:56.700 youth was tapped
00:42:57.900 into by
00:42:58.740 entertainment corporations
00:43:00.460 and turned against
00:43:02.120 tradition
00:43:02.820 order
00:43:03.380 and their parents
00:43:04.200 all on the basis
00:43:05.780 of do what you want
00:43:06.900 follow your bliss
00:43:08.100 follow your heart
00:43:09.260 you know
00:43:10.100 the destruction
00:43:11.080 be damned
00:43:11.720 all of that
00:43:13.040 really has culminated
00:43:14.420 into the modern
00:43:15.680 kind of
00:43:16.260 Silicon Valley ethos
00:43:17.960 of move fast
00:43:19.980 and break things
00:43:21.360 because they are
00:43:22.220 moving fast
00:43:23.320 and they've already
00:43:24.340 broken so much
00:43:25.580 and they are
00:43:26.040 continuing to break
00:43:27.040 things
00:43:27.320 and they seem
00:43:27.780 to be hell bent
00:43:28.960 on breaking
00:43:29.600 whatever it is
00:43:30.460 in their path
00:43:31.260 and that path
00:43:32.380 of course
00:43:32.760 being driven
00:43:33.380 by their desire
00:43:34.320 their will
00:43:35.400 what we want
00:43:36.400 to do
00:43:36.860 it's the entirety
00:43:37.740 of the accelerationist
00:43:38.880 movement
00:43:39.200 so you take
00:43:40.300 out
00:43:40.580 if you're
00:43:41.140 pure rationalist
00:43:42.020 imagine
00:43:42.360 you're an atheist
00:43:43.120 you take out
00:43:43.680 all of the
00:43:44.620 sort of
00:43:44.880 supernatural elements
00:43:46.020 as a metaphor
00:43:47.500 without a doubt
00:43:48.480 they have long
00:43:49.340 summoned demons
00:43:50.520 and the demons
00:43:52.480 have wreaked
00:43:53.420 havoc
00:43:53.840 on traditional
00:43:55.240 American
00:43:55.800 and western
00:43:56.320 culture
00:43:56.780 and world
00:43:57.560 traditional cultures
00:43:58.580 as a whole
00:43:59.160 Joe
00:44:01.740 hang on
00:44:02.040 for a second
00:44:02.300 I want to
00:44:02.560 bring in
00:44:02.920 Dr. Nicholas
00:44:04.040 Kaderis
00:44:05.960 he's going to
00:44:06.760 speak at this
00:44:07.440 conference
00:44:07.980 hope is fuel
00:44:09.380 so give us
00:44:10.440 some hope
00:44:10.800 here sir
00:44:11.140 your topic
00:44:11.900 is what
00:44:12.300 big tech
00:44:13.080 and mental
00:44:13.460 health
00:44:13.860 we've seen
00:44:15.160 from the
00:44:15.760 bailout
00:44:16.220 of the
00:44:16.660 tech
00:44:16.940 ATM
00:44:18.280 in Silicon
00:44:20.440 Valley
00:44:20.960 to Joe's
00:44:22.180 revelations
00:44:22.940 of deconstructing
00:44:24.600 Ezra Klein's
00:44:25.560 quite frankly
00:44:26.400 very disturbing
00:44:27.120 piece in the
00:44:27.700 New York Times
00:44:28.280 about artificial
00:44:29.100 intelligence
00:44:29.700 how are we
00:44:30.400 going to get
00:44:30.660 some hope
00:44:31.140 out of big
00:44:32.080 tech in
00:44:32.520 mental health
00:44:33.020 sir
00:44:33.240 well we can't
00:44:34.980 get hope
00:44:35.320 until we
00:44:35.740 identify the
00:44:36.800 problem
00:44:37.120 I've written
00:44:37.500 quite a bit
00:44:37.960 about the
00:44:38.320 AI and
00:44:38.820 transhumanism
00:44:39.540 movement
00:44:39.940 by the way
00:44:40.380 because our
00:44:40.940 mental health
00:44:41.460 won't be
00:44:42.320 worth a damn
00:44:42.840 if our
00:44:43.620 species gets
00:44:44.140 replaced
00:44:44.600 and I think
00:44:45.260 I enjoyed
00:44:46.340 your cold
00:44:46.760 opening
00:44:47.060 because I
00:44:48.200 had met
00:44:48.640 Timothy Leary
00:44:50.180 the year before
00:44:50.800 he died
00:44:51.400 and he was
00:44:52.220 still waxing
00:44:52.840 poetic about
00:44:53.500 he tilted
00:44:55.020 at windmills
00:44:55.580 with psychedelics
00:44:56.340 and then he
00:44:56.620 said I remember
00:44:57.220 talking to him
00:44:57.740 about this
00:44:58.100 in 1994
00:44:58.700 where he was
00:44:59.460 talking about
00:45:00.040 consciousness
00:45:00.500 expansion through
00:45:01.300 the digital
00:45:01.760 realm
00:45:02.100 and back
00:45:03.580 then you know
00:45:04.260 that was his
00:45:04.920 new thing
00:45:06.000 but you know
00:45:07.040 history or human
00:45:07.880 history is full
00:45:08.660 of God
00:45:09.300 complexes and
00:45:10.100 hubris and how
00:45:10.880 those experiments
00:45:11.640 never come out
00:45:12.220 well
00:45:12.460 and what we're
00:45:14.180 looking at in
00:45:14.880 the transhumanism
00:45:15.780 movement which
00:45:16.400 the high priest
00:45:17.340 is Ray
00:45:18.060 Kurzweil
00:45:18.660 in the singularity
00:45:20.080 movement
00:45:20.480 where the play
00:45:22.760 here is an
00:45:23.200 immortality play
00:45:24.540 and I think
00:45:25.880 a lot of
00:45:26.180 people who
00:45:26.640 have been
00:45:27.460 seduced by
00:45:28.040 their technology
00:45:28.800 and we've
00:45:29.300 you know
00:45:29.540 we've all
00:45:29.960 read the
00:45:30.320 stories and
00:45:30.760 I've done
00:45:31.000 a lot of
00:45:31.320 research and
00:45:31.900 I've done
00:45:32.120 a lot of
00:45:32.380 speaking about
00:45:33.020 I was one
00:45:33.840 of the first
00:45:34.180 people that
00:45:34.560 talked about
00:45:35.000 our technology
00:45:35.640 can be
00:45:36.100 habit forming
00:45:36.720 that was
00:45:37.160 six or
00:45:37.500 seven or
00:45:37.860 eight years
00:45:38.200 ago and
00:45:39.140 then we
00:45:39.340 understood
00:45:39.620 that our
00:45:40.000 habituation
00:45:40.600 could lead
00:45:41.180 to some
00:45:41.500 mental health
00:45:42.000 issues but
00:45:43.200 essentially
00:45:43.640 we've all
00:45:44.280 been put in
00:45:44.720 digital cages
00:45:45.440 that we've
00:45:45.900 been seduced
00:45:47.020 and addicted
00:45:47.460 to while
00:45:48.360 we've monetized
00:45:49.520 the gas
00:45:51.380 tank or
00:45:51.960 we've filled
00:45:52.840 up the fuel
00:45:53.340 tank of
00:45:53.800 big tech
00:45:54.360 and if you
00:45:55.360 study the
00:45:56.280 five leading
00:45:57.380 heads and
00:45:58.240 if you read
00:45:59.120 what they've
00:45:59.560 said how
00:46:00.160 they follow
00:46:00.660 Ray Kurzweil's
00:46:01.920 singularity
00:46:03.220 dream they're
00:46:04.180 looking to
00:46:04.760 monetize us
00:46:05.420 for resources
00:46:06.680 to be able
00:46:07.340 to create
00:46:08.000 this transhumanist
00:46:09.720 evolutionary
00:46:10.680 model that
00:46:11.940 they're looking
00:46:12.340 to do
00:46:12.660 they're looking
00:46:13.180 at it as
00:46:14.420 the next
00:46:14.740 step of our
00:46:15.160 human evolution
00:46:15.780 and people
00:46:16.940 like I think
00:46:17.460 you and I
00:46:17.860 are looking
00:46:18.180 at it as
00:46:18.940 playing with
00:46:19.980 fire that's
00:46:20.600 going to be
00:46:21.120 species
00:46:21.900 potentially
00:46:22.400 species
00:46:22.900 destroying
00:46:23.500 so the
00:46:24.340 hope comes
00:46:25.120 in being
00:46:25.920 able to
00:46:26.400 yeah
00:46:26.660 and before
00:46:28.240 we get to
00:46:28.560 the hope
00:46:28.780 I just want
00:46:29.140 to ask you
00:46:29.400 because you
00:46:29.800 get back
00:46:30.080 to the
00:46:30.300 singularity
00:46:30.860 and everybody's
00:46:31.820 mesmerized
00:46:32.700 now by AI
00:46:33.420 because of
00:46:34.020 the chat
00:46:34.540 GPT
00:46:35.120 for Davos
00:46:36.160 man who
00:46:36.540 was like a
00:46:36.920 little fan
00:46:37.380 boy with
00:46:37.860 it
00:46:38.040 what I'm
00:46:39.540 concerned
00:46:39.920 about and
00:46:40.300 I keep
00:46:40.580 talking
00:46:40.880 because having
00:46:41.580 done enough
00:46:42.080 financing in
00:46:42.820 different areas
00:46:44.160 when things
00:46:45.380 start picking
00:46:45.800 up what I
00:46:46.320 call accelerating
00:46:47.160 at an
00:46:47.560 accelerating rate
00:46:48.940 that's what
00:46:49.520 you're seeing
00:46:49.960 now and
00:46:50.520 it's every
00:46:51.660 vertical that
00:46:52.340 leads to the
00:46:52.840 singularity whether
00:46:53.560 it's regenerative
00:46:54.220 robotics whether
00:46:55.040 it's artificial
00:46:56.640 general intelligence
00:46:57.760 or artificial
00:46:58.460 intelligence whether
00:46:59.360 it's quantum
00:47:00.780 computing advanced
00:47:02.660 chip design you
00:47:03.700 know biotechnology
00:47:04.640 CRISPR the
00:47:05.780 conversion people
00:47:06.520 don't and what's
00:47:07.180 happening in these
00:47:07.780 research labs
00:47:08.660 chat GPT is like
00:47:11.280 a tiny rudimentary
00:47:12.720 device compared to
00:47:14.360 what they've got
00:47:14.900 going on that is my
00:47:15.960 big fear is that
00:47:17.120 in every one of
00:47:18.080 these verticals
00:47:18.880 that lead to
00:47:19.380 the singularity
00:47:20.160 we're much
00:47:21.120 farther down the
00:47:21.820 road than
00:47:22.500 people think
00:47:23.660 your thoughts
00:47:24.260 well even
00:47:25.920 Zuckerberg has
00:47:26.680 pivoted from
00:47:27.420 now the
00:47:28.020 metaverse I
00:47:28.780 mean really
00:47:29.380 subtly has
00:47:30.180 pivoted from
00:47:30.780 not so subtly
00:47:31.520 from the
00:47:32.380 metaverse which
00:47:32.900 was a big
00:47:33.400 financial disaster
00:47:34.720 for meta to
00:47:35.740 now AI just
00:47:36.920 in the last two
00:47:37.520 weeks he's
00:47:37.980 saying all
00:47:38.320 right that
00:47:39.200 was kind of
00:47:39.580 a bust and
00:47:40.060 now let's
00:47:40.580 essentially focus
00:47:41.360 on AI and
00:47:42.500 what you
00:47:42.780 accurately called
00:47:43.600 AGI
00:47:44.080 artificial
00:47:45.000 generalized
00:47:45.540 intelligence
00:47:46.080 because that's
00:47:46.580 what we're
00:47:46.840 talking about
00:47:47.400 sentience not
00:47:49.300 just smart
00:47:50.060 cars now we're
00:47:50.860 talking about
00:47:51.620 the you know
00:47:52.620 it's the
00:47:52.960 Frankenstein you
00:47:54.260 know Joe
00:47:54.940 Allen before
00:47:55.400 was dead on
00:47:56.340 with his as
00:47:57.740 a mythologist
00:47:58.340 you know the
00:47:59.100 archetype the
00:48:00.140 Frankenstein myth
00:48:01.060 archetype the
00:48:02.520 god complex
00:48:03.280 trying to create
00:48:04.020 life and then
00:48:04.760 the monster
00:48:05.780 destroying the
00:48:07.160 creator as it
00:48:08.100 did with Dr.
00:48:08.680 Frankenstein
00:48:09.160 that's where
00:48:09.620 we're at this
00:48:10.520 has happened with
00:48:11.060 Oppenheimer back
00:48:12.140 with the atomic
00:48:12.680 bomb Oppenheimer
00:48:13.520 stormed into
00:48:14.320 Truman's office
00:48:15.120 and saying what
00:48:16.160 have we done
00:48:16.740 what have I
00:48:17.220 done and he
00:48:18.440 quoted the
00:48:18.980 Bhagavad Gita
00:48:19.940 saying we're
00:48:21.100 destroyer of
00:48:21.740 worlds and
00:48:22.240 Truman threw
00:48:22.700 him out of
00:48:23.000 his office at
00:48:23.980 that point the
00:48:24.760 genie was out
00:48:25.340 of the bottle
00:48:25.800 the nuclear age
00:48:27.640 had begun and
00:48:28.720 the creators were
00:48:29.640 no longer in
00:48:30.220 control and and
00:48:31.500 this quickening
00:48:32.140 that you're
00:48:32.460 alluding to that's
00:48:33.240 exactly what's
00:48:33.900 happening we're
00:48:34.860 gonna let the
00:48:35.320 genie out of
00:48:35.800 the bottle or
00:48:36.360 we're letting
00:48:36.760 the genie out
00:48:37.320 of the bottle and
00:48:38.600 no one's gonna be
00:48:39.460 able to control
00:48:40.100 it it'll it's
00:48:40.940 gonna be too
00:48:41.580 late and
00:48:42.800 yeah we can
00:48:44.040 talk about
00:48:44.560 mental health
00:48:45.180 and some of
00:48:45.580 the other
00:48:45.820 things that are
00:48:46.240 happening because
00:48:46.980 those are very
00:48:47.820 real events that
00:48:49.320 I treat in my
00:48:50.060 I have I own
00:48:50.860 treatment programs
00:48:51.580 around the
00:48:51.980 country and I
00:48:52.560 write a lot
00:48:53.560 about the
00:48:54.060 adverse mental
00:48:55.180 health impacts
00:48:55.880 but we're not
00:48:57.000 going to be able to
00:48:57.740 address this until
00:48:58.760 we awaken to the
00:49:00.140 reality of what's
00:49:00.920 happening but we've
00:49:02.160 all not only been
00:49:03.160 seduced and
00:49:04.400 sedated by our
00:49:05.560 technology but we
00:49:06.420 have a form of
00:49:06.940 Stockholm syndrome
00:49:07.720 we've deified the
00:49:09.440 people who have
00:49:10.200 kidnapped us or
00:49:11.420 locked us in these
00:49:12.120 cages we're Patty
00:49:13.040 Hurst's to to
00:49:14.860 Bezos and
00:49:15.980 Zuckerberg and
00:49:16.620 Gates and and
00:49:18.420 and there are
00:49:19.280 rock stars while
00:49:20.240 they're entrapping
00:49:21.300 us and and
00:49:22.480 really stunting our
00:49:23.620 society you know
00:49:24.500 look you don't have
00:49:25.680 to be a rocket
00:49:26.320 scientist to look at
00:49:27.140 what's happening to
00:49:28.080 teenagers and young
00:49:29.380 adults their mental
00:49:30.540 health is the worst
00:49:31.400 on record and as
00:49:33.000 you go down
00:49:33.520 generational cohorts
00:49:34.720 from baby boomers
00:49:35.740 to Gen Z to
00:49:37.300 Gen X to Gen Z
00:49:38.340 to Millennials
00:49:38.940 they're getting worse
00:49:40.580 and worse in their
00:49:41.180 psychiatric metrics
00:49:43.120 these are the
00:49:44.320 younger you are the
00:49:45.120 more plugged in you
00:49:45.960 are the more
00:49:46.340 digitally connected
00:49:47.240 you are the more
00:49:48.020 unwell you are the
00:49:49.320 more suicidal the
00:49:50.320 more overdosing the
00:49:51.720 more anxious the
00:49:52.380 more depressed and
00:49:53.580 so what we as the
00:49:54.480 adults in the room
00:49:55.200 who remember the
00:49:56.340 before times have
00:49:58.160 to say here or no
00:49:59.220 further we have to
00:50:00.420 take our humanity
00:50:01.220 back and you know
00:50:02.200 there's legislative
00:50:02.940 approaches there's
00:50:03.980 section 230 repeals
00:50:05.700 there's antitrust
00:50:06.520 laws there's
00:50:07.980 mechanisms that we
00:50:09.000 can use but we
00:50:10.020 have to be aware
00:50:10.840 enough of what's
00:50:12.380 happening because
00:50:13.320 what I think a lot
00:50:14.240 of people are missing
00:50:14.880 is it's just happened
00:50:16.000 so quickly you know
00:50:17.980 most people it feels
00:50:19.680 like our technology or
00:50:20.840 screen reality have
00:50:21.940 been around forever
00:50:22.660 but it's been 10 to
00:50:23.680 15 years where we've
00:50:24.920 shifted as a society
00:50:26.020 yes a doctor we got
00:50:29.100 to bounce how do
00:50:29.720 people get to your
00:50:30.340 writing social media
00:50:31.300 and how they get to
00:50:32.260 the conferences on the
00:50:33.400 18th we recommend
00:50:34.400 everybody go there's a
00:50:35.420 free aspect to it and
00:50:36.340 there's an aspect you
00:50:37.240 can pay and get more
00:50:38.000 insights but it's
00:50:39.340 definitely free if you
00:50:40.120 want to go where do
00:50:40.700 people go right hope
00:50:42.920 is fuel dot com is for
00:50:44.300 the conference on
00:50:45.380 saturday my book is my
00:50:46.840 latest book is digital
00:50:47.800 madness which is
00:50:49.400 available on amazon my
00:50:50.740 publisher st martin's
00:50:51.720 press and and my
00:50:53.720 website is www.drcardaris.com
00:50:57.420 so I encourage
00:50:59.020 everybody to wake up
00:51:00.020 and and be hopeful and
00:51:01.500 fight back for our
00:51:02.680 humanity the great the
00:51:05.200 great work got awakened
00:51:07.280 you can't sleep right
00:51:08.220 can't go into the deep
00:51:09.080 sleep doctor thank you
00:51:10.020 so much honored to have
00:51:10.900 you on here thank you
00:51:12.720 what is it the groundhog
00:51:15.480 day right one of the
00:51:16.680 great esoteric works of
00:51:18.000 our time a joe allen
00:51:19.240 where do people get you
00:51:20.240 and your great writing
00:51:20.920 sir you can find it at
00:51:24.040 joe b-o-t-x-y-z on
00:51:26.540 twitter and getter
00:51:27.980 joebot.xyz and warroom.org
00:51:31.960 under the transhumanism
00:51:33.520 tab and I gotta say too
00:51:35.120 steve dr cardaris that
00:51:37.300 was that was excellent
00:51:38.320 extremely impressed I
00:51:39.820 look forward to reading
00:51:40.480 his book amazing amazing
00:51:43.240 amazing amazing amazing
00:51:44.780 okay joe thank you very
00:51:46.060 much we're gonna be back
00:51:46.740 here at 10 o'clock tomorrow
00:51:47.920 morning eastern daylight
00:51:50.000 time with more amazing
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