Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 254： The Trials Of Fauci

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:15.020 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:17.720 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:21.160 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:23.820 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,

00:00:26.380 get total control and total power.

00:00:28.040 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:31.000 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:32.180 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:35.020 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:37.280 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:39.560 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:41.460 All this nonsense, all this spin,

00:00:43.640 they can't handle the truth.

00:00:45.400 War Room, Battleground.

00:00:47.160 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:50.260 A year, a year and a half ago, we're much better.

00:00:53.120 Remember, we were having about 800,000 to 900,000 infections a day

00:00:57.740 and about 3,000 to 4,000 deaths per day.

00:01:00.180 We're much further down than that right now.

00:01:03.300 We're doing, comparatively speaking, much better.

00:01:07.000 But we can do better than we're doing.

00:01:09.260 We've got to get that death rate, which is around 400 or so,

00:01:13.720 sometimes as high as 500, sometimes down to 300 per day.

00:01:18.440 We've really got to do better than that.

00:01:20.740 I mean, if you look at the relative percentage of people

00:01:23.860 who are updated on their boosters,

00:01:26.640 we have less than 20% of the eligible people

00:01:30.520 have received that updated BA 4-5 boost.

00:01:34.320 So we've got to do better than that,

00:01:36.700 even though we're doing much better than we were.

00:01:39.780 It seems to me that the steady stream of disinformation

00:01:44.460 keeps moving out there.

00:01:46.580 A lot of people picked up on a Cochran summary

00:01:51.120 of mask studies and ran with that a couple of weeks ago

00:01:54.960 and said, see, this proves, this proves masks don't work.

00:01:59.980 The Cochran editor-in-chief had to come out and say,

00:02:02.020 no, no, no, you're misreading our data.

00:02:04.540 That's not what we're saying at all.

00:02:06.360 And yet that disinformation gets out of the door

00:02:09.220 and people just run with it.

00:02:11.160 And looking back, we've learned a lot of things

00:02:16.020 over the past three years.

00:02:18.000 Tell me, what are some of the major takeaways

00:02:20.320 that you've learned over the last three years?

00:02:22.700 Perhaps there's some things that before we knew exactly

00:02:25.780 how COVID was going to develop.

00:02:28.380 What have you learned three years in about COVID?

00:02:32.060 Well, there's a long, long list, Joe, of what we've learned,

00:02:37.260 particularly if you look at the evolution of information

00:02:39.980 from the very first weeks when it was felt

00:02:43.180 that this was not a particularly easy virus

00:02:47.000 to transmit from person to person,

00:02:49.720 feeling that it was, you know,

00:02:51.480 maybe jumped from an animal to a human

00:02:53.440 and one human would infect another,

00:02:56.060 but very inefficiently.

00:02:57.400 Then we soon found out that it is extremely efficient

00:03:01.000 in its transmissibility.

00:03:03.100 Then we found out that unlike influenza,

00:03:05.880 which is mostly droplet transmission,

00:03:08.660 this is aerosol transmission,

00:03:10.680 which really changed how we looked upon the need

00:03:13.660 to wear a mask when you have aerosol transmission.

00:03:17.080 And then the other thing that we learned

00:03:18.520 as the weeks went by

00:03:19.940 is that this virus has transmitted predominantly

00:03:23.580 50 to 60% of the transmissions

00:03:26.580 are from someone who has no symptoms at all,

00:03:29.820 which completely smashes the paradigm

00:03:32.700 of respiratory transmissibility

00:03:35.100 that we're used to

00:03:36.040 with other respiratory-borne diseases.

00:03:38.840 And then the big surprise of all,

00:03:41.440 when we expected that it would go up

00:03:43.380 and then go back down

00:03:44.480 and then sort of disappear

00:03:45.860 and go into the background,

00:03:47.540 we wound up having variant after variant

00:03:50.920 and surge after surge

00:03:52.820 right up to what we're having right now,

00:03:55.440 which are sub-lineages of the Omicron surge,

00:03:58.240 which started well over a year ago.

00:04:00.820 So this has been really a moving target.

00:04:04.280 And that's the reason why we've had...

00:04:05.920 Memphis, can you stop this?

00:04:07.480 And I want to play it back up.

00:04:08.620 I can't take anymore.

00:04:10.600 I can't take anymore.

00:04:12.260 And here's why.

00:04:12.960 I got Dr. Malone and Natalie.

00:04:16.640 And Natalie, let me start with you

00:04:18.140 because you follow this as we did as civilians,

00:04:20.560 and I'll ask the pro, Dr. Malone.

00:04:23.740 And Natalie, you're an expert on information warfare

00:04:26.440 and how they...

00:04:28.040 He's talking as if this is the first time

00:04:32.680 he ever knew about this

00:04:33.740 or never ever came to him.

00:04:36.420 I mean, these revelations that come to him,

00:04:38.780 which have been in the late winter,

00:04:41.600 early spring of 2020,

00:04:43.680 he keeps talking about it

00:04:44.940 as that these were new events or new things.

00:04:47.120 He knew for a fact

00:04:48.900 what was going on in the Wuhan lab.

00:04:51.260 The emails and all the trying to hide it.

00:04:54.760 You know, extremely efficient.

00:04:56.240 Yeah, it's extremely efficient

00:04:57.460 because they're building a bioweapon.

00:05:00.540 Asymptomatic.

00:05:01.540 That was a surprise to him.

00:05:05.220 Aerosol.

00:05:06.140 Walk me through.

00:05:07.100 Is this...

00:05:09.300 This is...

00:05:10.180 Maybe it's just me

00:05:11.180 having been here from the beginning

00:05:12.400 as a civilian,

00:05:13.300 but doing this show.

00:05:14.220 For him to sit there

00:05:15.820 and take it out of the historic timeline

00:05:17.520 of when this stuff actually happened

00:05:19.320 to me is demonic.

00:05:22.280 But maybe I'm overstating the case.

00:05:24.560 Natalie Winters.

00:05:26.420 Not at all.

00:05:27.580 I think people sort of miss the forest

00:05:30.020 for the trees

00:05:30.700 when it comes to Anthony Fauci's involvement

00:05:33.140 in obscuring the true origins of COVID

00:05:36.740 because it wasn't even like

00:05:38.060 he was dealing even-handedly,

00:05:40.540 maybe slightly favoring

00:05:42.100 the natural origins theory.

00:05:43.900 Though he likes to present this facade

00:05:46.240 that, you know,

00:05:47.760 oh, I actually was very open

00:05:49.460 to both ideas.

00:05:50.540 And he entertains a discussion

00:05:52.560 about the origins of the virus,

00:05:55.260 talks about the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:05:58.520 Nothing could be further from the truth.

00:06:00.800 Again, watching that clip,

00:06:02.120 it's like being gaslit

00:06:03.540 in the sense that

00:06:05.040 as someone who has followed this story

00:06:06.820 sort of from its inception

00:06:08.040 from the beginning,

00:06:09.700 nothing that he says

00:06:11.260 comports with reality.

00:06:13.160 It's such a barrage of disinformation.

00:06:15.860 And of course, Morning Joe,

00:06:17.680 you know, they're calling people like us

00:06:19.800 the ones who are spreading disinformation.

00:06:21.020 It's a perfect example of projection.

00:06:24.000 But it really, really was a calculated campaign.

00:06:28.900 And it wasn't just Anthony Fauci.

00:06:30.940 I mean, it really was information laundering

00:06:34.180 through various proxies,

00:06:35.900 whether it was Fauci-affiliated people

00:06:38.520 at the Lancet Medical Journal.

00:06:40.440 But really, I think it goes back

00:06:42.460 to your sort of central point

00:06:44.560 and what we've talked about a lot on the show,

00:06:47.160 which is this idea of involvement

00:06:49.740 in bioweapon research.

00:06:52.280 Now, allegedly, purportedly,

00:06:54.820 it was supposed to be, you know,

00:06:56.080 bioweapon defense research.

00:06:58.600 But I don't quite understand the logic

00:07:01.500 where you would partner

00:07:03.200 with the Chinese Communist Party,

00:07:05.240 the foremost threat to America,

00:07:07.580 to come up with a strategy

00:07:09.900 to biodefense research

00:07:11.980 with the most likely entity

00:07:14.280 that would wage biological warfare

00:07:16.240 on the United States.

00:07:17.740 It doesn't quite make sense.

00:07:22.280 And what Morning Joe, remember,

00:07:24.960 they didn't pick the story up until later.

00:07:26.600 It was around this time

00:07:28.460 or slightly before that Morning Joe

00:07:30.960 started covering it,

00:07:31.840 because I guess today or this time frame

00:07:33.800 is the anniversary

00:07:34.600 of when President Trump called

00:07:36.300 for the national emergency

00:07:37.360 around mid-March,

00:07:38.700 I think it was March 11th.

00:07:39.660 we had been covering it,

00:07:41.380 I mean, nonstop.

00:07:42.540 We actually renamed the show

00:07:43.640 and focused for an hour a day at first,

00:07:46.140 then two hours after a couple of days

00:07:47.640 and really put impeachment

00:07:48.740 on the back burner

00:07:49.400 because that, as we projected,

00:07:51.500 would turn out to be a nothing burger.

00:07:52.920 And we met all these fascinating people,

00:07:54.620 as you know,

00:07:54.820 we had, you know,

00:07:57.460 all the great consultants

00:07:58.360 we had to, you know,

00:08:00.700 start the show.

00:08:01.620 Then we met the guys

00:08:02.480 like Dr. Malone.

00:08:03.220 Dr. Malone, I got to go to you.

00:08:04.420 You have made this point.

00:08:07.660 I think Natalie's made it too.

00:08:09.320 That, and you use actual

00:08:11.020 information warfare intelligence

00:08:13.440 operative language

00:08:15.920 when you call it limited hangout.

00:08:17.380 But I didn't get a chance

00:08:18.560 to see this live

00:08:19.560 and I didn't get a chance to see it

00:08:20.840 until we just came on air.

00:08:24.040 I mean, it is so obvious.

00:08:26.720 He's gaslighting us

00:08:28.100 at a level of,

00:08:29.900 it's so almost unserious.

00:08:32.080 For anybody who's there at the time

00:08:33.320 and remembers how this thing came up

00:08:34.660 and he's talking to people

00:08:36.400 like these were all

00:08:37.220 just basic new reveals to him

00:08:39.300 from the time.

00:08:41.200 Dr. Malone,

00:08:41.860 and give us technically also

00:08:43.180 where he's just bald-faced lying.

00:08:45.880 Well, I do think we have to concede

00:08:48.280 that the man is an expert liar.

00:08:51.000 He is a practiced,

00:08:53.060 skilled disinformation specialist.

00:08:55.840 And he's had decades of experience

00:08:59.460 in manipulating media in this way

00:09:03.560 and in also manipulating

00:09:06.320 the entire scientific enterprise.

00:09:08.520 One of the things I want to start off with

00:09:09.980 was Joe Scarborough's

00:09:11.360 talk about bald-faced lie assertions

00:09:13.760 that the editor-in-chief

00:09:15.780 of the Cochran Review

00:09:17.400 had indicated, as he had,

00:09:21.640 that this paper has been misinterpreted.

00:09:24.800 The primary author of that paper

00:09:26.800 has now gone on record objecting to that

00:09:29.720 and said that the editor-in-chief

00:09:32.220 of the Cochran Review

00:09:33.440 was placed under political pressure

00:09:35.900 and that is what gave rise

00:09:37.900 to this statement.

00:09:39.240 The statement has no basis

00:09:40.980 in fact or merit.

00:09:42.780 It's a political statement.

00:09:44.760 And it absolutely does not demonstrate

00:09:47.620 what Mr. Scarborough is asserting.

00:09:50.920 And just to say it once again,

00:09:53.300 I feel like a broken record.

00:09:54.780 There are three routes of infection

00:09:56.840 for this virus.

00:09:58.900 It's nasal, oral,

00:10:00.280 in other words,

00:10:00.600 your nose, your mouth, and your eyes.

00:10:03.520 And these masks don't cover eyes.

00:10:06.240 There is no way

00:10:07.120 that these masks are effective

00:10:08.580 for the very reason

00:10:10.120 that Tony Fauci talked about.

00:10:11.660 This is airborne transmission

00:10:13.040 and it infects the eyes.

00:10:15.680 Okay, so this whole back and forth

00:10:19.160 about masking,

00:10:20.340 we have the person

00:10:21.200 who originally convinced the CDC

00:10:23.880 to apply this mask mandate

00:10:26.580 has published a paper

00:10:28.560 in the Proceedings

00:10:29.980 of the National Academy of Sciences

00:10:31.500 in which she flat out says

00:10:33.780 that one of the main reasons

00:10:34.940 to do this is political.

00:10:37.180 It's to get people

00:10:38.320 to demonstrate their commitment

00:10:39.960 to virus control.

00:10:42.560 And it has nothing to do

00:10:44.000 with actual virus control.

00:10:45.660 It has to do with,

00:10:47.540 I'm sorry,

00:10:48.440 there's no other word for it,

00:10:49.700 virtue signaling,

00:10:50.660 that one is committed

00:10:52.020 to this cause.

00:10:53.000 So that's what the masks are about.

00:10:54.600 And I'm sorry,

00:10:55.680 Mr. Scarborough,

00:10:57.140 but you're wrong.

00:10:58.800 In terms of Tony Fauci,

00:11:01.280 we had this,

00:11:02.280 I think Natalie covered it very well.

00:11:04.900 And keep in mind

00:11:06.400 that Tony

00:11:07.720 and the director of NIH

00:11:10.840 and Jeremy Farrar

00:11:13.080 of the Wellcome Trust

00:11:14.200 all bought burner phones

00:11:16.680 to discuss their strategy

00:11:18.680 on the political problem

00:11:24.220 that they had

00:11:24.980 with this storyline

00:11:27.180 that this was a laboratory leak,

00:11:29.840 knowing that they had played a role

00:11:31.520 in funding those laboratories

00:11:32.780 to do that very research.

00:11:34.600 This is as close

00:11:35.740 to admission of guilt

00:11:37.080 as I can imagine.

00:11:38.500 They knew that

00:11:39.140 what they were doing was wrong

00:11:40.620 and they conspired to hide it

00:11:43.400 by buying burner phones.

00:11:45.420 This is in Farrar's memoirs

00:11:47.820 about this period.

00:11:49.020 So it's indisputable.

00:11:52.060 Mr. Fauci has misdirected,

00:11:55.600 lied,

00:11:57.340 engaged in these various strategies

00:11:59.340 to obscure truth,

00:12:01.480 and he's continuing to do so.

00:12:03.320 For instance,

00:12:03.840 here, you know,

00:12:05.200 in the earlier segment

00:12:06.440 that you showed this morning,

00:12:08.320 we had MSNBC

00:12:09.780 citing the Department of Energy

00:12:11.640 statements

00:12:12.920 that they have low certainty.

00:12:14.840 You'll recall

00:12:15.380 that previously

00:12:16.160 many of these media outlets

00:12:18.320 were deriding

00:12:19.180 the Department of Energy

00:12:20.480 for even having an opinion here,

00:12:22.520 not recognizing

00:12:23.560 how important DOE is

00:12:25.620 in the entire

00:12:26.360 biowarfare,

00:12:27.680 biodefense enterprise,

00:12:28.720 but they completely

00:12:30.480 failed to note

00:12:31.640 that the FBI disagrees

00:12:34.080 and they have moderate confidence

00:12:36.020 that, in fact,

00:12:36.960 this is a lab leak.

00:12:38.180 And we had actually

00:12:39.680 Mr. Tedros,

00:12:41.700 Tedros Tobias,

00:12:43.000 together with the head

00:12:44.200 of the Lancet Commission,

00:12:45.380 Jeffrey Sachs,

00:12:46.780 both saying overtly

00:12:48.420 that this was a lab leak,

00:12:50.060 that this was a laboratory-created virus,

00:12:52.580 and they've been speculating

00:12:54.220 that actually

00:12:54.920 the United States government

00:12:56.180 had a more active involvement

00:12:57.920 in creation of it

00:12:59.040 back here in North Carolina.

00:13:01.340 I mean,

00:13:01.880 Natalie's covered it well.

00:13:04.260 This is just

00:13:05.000 obscuring

00:13:06.600 and building a cloud

00:13:08.440 of disinformation

00:13:10.840 around known facts

00:13:12.760 so that people are confused

00:13:14.460 about what the truth is.

00:13:16.420 Right.

00:13:17.180 Help me,

00:13:17.780 and we're not going to

00:13:18.540 lay him off the hook.

00:13:20.480 And just help me out here

00:13:21.420 for a good time.

00:13:21.900 And we're going to finish

00:13:22.660 this clip we got.

00:13:23.580 I want to finish the clip

00:13:24.420 that we just had,

00:13:25.300 and then we'll go to the next slide.

00:13:26.280 Just finish it,

00:13:27.140 and then roll to the next one.

00:13:28.180 Given they got the burner phones,

00:13:32.300 given they had done the funding,

00:13:33.620 given that they,

00:13:34.340 and they were doing this here

00:13:36.700 because they were restricted

00:13:38.020 for what they do

00:13:38.680 in the United States,

00:13:39.660 given what they knew

00:13:40.740 about the program overall,

00:13:43.580 is it disingenuous

00:13:44.800 for him to say,

00:13:46.580 you know,

00:13:46.860 we learned so much

00:13:47.560 about this as we went on,

00:13:48.680 that the efficiency

00:13:49.600 of transmittability,

00:13:50.760 asymptomatic,

00:13:52.260 all those things

00:13:53.540 he just goes through

00:13:54.200 with the litany,

00:13:55.140 like he's Louis Pasteur

00:13:56.980 and he's finding this out

00:13:58.120 as the process.

00:13:59.580 He had to have known

00:14:01.020 at least,

00:14:02.420 I mean,

00:14:02.680 that's what he's

00:14:03.080 playing himself up to.

00:14:03.860 He had to have known,

00:14:04.920 given their already involvement

00:14:06.220 in the conversation

00:14:08.560 with WHO,

00:14:09.360 he had to know

00:14:10.320 that this was all

00:14:11.500 in the set of things

00:14:12.560 that could happen,

00:14:13.500 right?

00:14:14.100 He's a,

00:14:15.220 obviously a very smart guy.

00:14:17.820 The thing he makes up

00:14:19.280 that he just found these out

00:14:20.620 as they went on

00:14:21.440 and to protect

00:14:22.020 the American people,

00:14:22.760 that is also a,

00:14:25.440 what an intelligence

00:14:26.460 operative would do.

00:14:27.540 That is a,

00:14:28.400 that's total misdirection

00:14:29.920 and misinformation.

00:14:30.900 Am I wrong in that

00:14:31.760 because I just don't understand

00:14:32.740 the science wrong enough

00:14:34.100 or is that?

00:14:34.860 And you're,

00:14:35.140 you're being coy.

00:14:36.680 You know it's true

00:14:37.740 and you know

00:14:38.460 that the term

00:14:39.100 you applied disingenuous

00:14:40.440 is precisely

00:14:41.220 the correct terminology.

00:14:45.700 Okay.

00:14:46.280 By the way,

00:14:46.680 he is trained

00:14:47.360 as a Jesuit.

00:14:48.140 I know that I'm,

00:14:49.020 I was trained

00:14:49.640 by the Benedictines.

00:14:50.580 He's changed,

00:14:51.100 but although I did,

00:14:51.800 and I did end up

00:14:52.800 in graduate school

00:14:53.320 in one of the Jesuit schools,

00:14:54.380 but he's with the big lie

00:14:55.900 where they're doing it

00:14:56.440 for the good of humanity

00:14:57.320 and they're lying to you

00:14:58.140 with a straight face.

00:14:59.620 Let's play,

00:15:00.200 we're going to finish

00:15:00.700 the last clip

00:15:01.280 and play the next set of clips

00:15:03.100 and I'll bring Natalie

00:15:03.820 and by the way,

00:15:05.100 before we move on,

00:15:05.840 Natalie,

00:15:06.160 anything,

00:15:06.620 anything to sum up

00:15:07.420 this,

00:15:07.820 this,

00:15:08.140 this part of it,

00:15:09.040 the introduction

00:15:09.600 to the,

00:15:10.140 and the Joe Scarborough show.

00:15:12.340 I mean,

00:15:12.880 I think you summed up,

00:15:13.760 but I think it's worth

00:15:14.560 noting just quickly,

00:15:15.540 you know,

00:15:15.720 you played that clip.

00:15:16.980 I feel like that's

00:15:18.280 almost a segment

00:15:19.180 from like a year ago

00:15:20.640 in the sense that

00:15:21.740 Anthony Fauci

00:15:22.420 just sort of comes

00:15:23.560 on the media,

00:15:24.540 right,

00:15:25.620 and says the same thing,

00:15:27.040 but just packages it up

00:15:28.580 slightly differently

00:15:29.480 to get out of whatever

00:15:30.620 the current charge

00:15:31.440 against him is.

00:15:32.400 He really,

00:15:33.200 really,

00:15:33.500 really is a skilled liar

00:15:34.940 and I think the,

00:15:35.960 like,

00:15:36.160 as Dr. Rolins said,

00:15:37.400 the CIA trained

00:15:38.460 component aspect,

00:15:39.940 obviously I'm not saying

00:15:40.720 that he is,

00:15:41.200 but there really is

00:15:42.260 a calculated angle

00:15:43.640 to this

00:15:44.220 that I think people

00:15:45.380 under-

00:15:46.320 I think,

00:15:47.080 okay,

00:15:47.500 this is,

00:15:48.620 just for the audience,

00:15:49.380 what she's saying

00:15:49.860 is very powerful.

00:15:51.180 Remember,

00:15:51.900 the way they do this

00:15:53.960 is wash,

00:15:55.000 rinse,

00:15:55.360 repeat.

00:15:55.700 She's absolutely correct.

00:15:57.320 And this,

00:15:57.740 and what shocked me today

00:15:58.840 is that they made

00:15:59.480 such a big deal

00:16:00.080 about this

00:16:00.460 the morning,

00:16:00.820 Joe,

00:16:01.000 and gave it

00:16:01.400 because they're known

00:16:02.000 for real quick interviews

00:16:03.700 to get the day rolling

00:16:05.100 and to have a bunch

00:16:05.920 of different voice on there

00:16:06.780 and all the articles

00:16:07.500 in the Atlantic

00:16:08.140 and Politico

00:16:08.820 and everybody

00:16:09.760 that they curry favor with.

00:16:11.880 This was a massive interview,

00:16:14.560 so they're sending

00:16:15.120 their signal right there,

00:16:16.320 and that it's important

00:16:17.400 and they need to get,

00:16:18.640 but the narrative,

00:16:19.740 I mean,

00:16:19.980 we could get the team

00:16:20.800 in and go back and cut.

00:16:22.240 This is,

00:16:23.120 you know,

00:16:23.520 his lies from a year ago,

00:16:25.720 but they understand

00:16:26.680 they've got to get this out there,

00:16:28.240 they've got to get this

00:16:29.100 front of mind

00:16:29.620 because they've got

00:16:30.660 these committees,

00:16:31.380 they've got MTG

00:16:32.220 at this thing,

00:16:32.780 they've got Natalie Winters,

00:16:33.820 they've got Malone,

00:16:34.460 all the podcasts

00:16:35.300 are coming on,

00:16:36.420 and the books have come out,

00:16:38.060 and people aren't buying it anymore.

00:16:39.880 That's why it's 4%

00:16:40.960 pick up on the vaccine.

00:16:42.040 The American people

00:16:42.860 have come to,

00:16:44.340 they're coming to a judgment here

00:16:45.600 when the American people's

00:16:46.520 common sense flips on you

00:16:48.460 and make the decision,

00:16:49.420 you know,

00:16:49.720 Fauci's done,

00:16:50.500 and he knows that.

00:16:51.720 That's why we're in the stage here,

00:16:53.360 this is pure 1,000%

00:16:55.440 information warfare,

00:16:57.080 and so when Dr. Malone

00:16:58.180 calls us a limited hangout,

00:16:59.660 I laugh all the time

00:17:01.160 because that's exactly what it is.

00:17:02.640 Okay,

00:17:02.860 let's go ahead and play,

00:17:04.740 finish the last one

00:17:05.380 and play the next clip

00:17:06.160 for Natalie Winters

00:17:07.020 and Dr. Malone.

00:17:07.680 It was change

00:17:09.260 some of the things

00:17:10.460 that we said

00:17:11.020 and recommended.

00:17:12.060 People saying

00:17:13.040 that's flip-flopping,

00:17:14.880 but it isn't.

00:17:15.700 It's learning

00:17:16.680 as you go along

00:17:17.940 and making your recommendations

00:17:19.900 according to the new data

00:17:21.340 as it evolves.

00:17:22.240 A few things

00:17:22.620 about the vaccines too.

00:17:23.760 There's a very resilient virus.

00:17:26.000 It's a very durable virus,

00:17:28.120 and it morphs very quickly.

00:17:29.960 So develop a vaccine,

00:17:33.060 and it still helps

00:17:34.600 in a positive way,

00:17:35.580 but it doesn't wipe out COVID.

00:17:37.460 Can you explain

00:17:38.140 what we've learned

00:17:38.900 about vaccines

00:17:40.160 over the last two years?

00:17:43.840 Well, there's one

00:17:45.160 very, very obvious fact

00:17:47.380 that is borne up

00:17:48.460 by very solid data.

00:17:51.040 Joe, we know that

00:17:52.000 if you compare

00:17:53.000 unvaccinated people

00:17:55.040 with vaccinated people

00:17:56.880 with regard to hospitalizations

00:17:59.080 and death,

00:17:59.960 there is an overwhelming

00:18:01.800 and dramatic difference

00:18:03.420 of a greater likelihood

00:18:05.340 of hospitalization

00:18:06.940 and death

00:18:07.460 among the unvaccinated.

00:18:09.400 And as the months went by,

00:18:11.020 if you compare vaccinated

00:18:13.100 but not up-to-date

00:18:14.480 with boosters

00:18:15.240 with people

00:18:16.500 who are totally up-to-date

00:18:17.800 on boosters,

00:18:18.900 there's still a difference

00:18:20.400 in the sense of

00:18:21.600 vaccinated and updated

00:18:23.300 boosted people

00:18:24.300 do much better

00:18:25.760 with regard to severity

00:18:27.200 of disease.

00:18:28.400 That's an open

00:18:29.600 and shut case.

00:18:31.060 There's no doubt

00:18:31.920 about doubt

00:18:32.740 that vaccines work.

00:18:34.380 But there's another thing

00:18:35.440 that is a bit sobering

00:18:36.720 that we learned,

00:18:37.620 that this virus

00:18:39.120 is so highly transmissible

00:18:41.120 that when you're vaccinated,

00:18:43.520 you may not necessarily

00:18:44.720 get protected

00:18:45.580 against infection,

00:18:46.820 but clearly,

00:18:48.520 you get protected

00:18:49.480 against severe disease.

00:18:50.920 And that's caused

00:18:52.100 a lot of confusion

00:18:53.140 among people

00:18:53.840 because when we went

00:18:55.000 from the original

00:18:56.280 wild-type

00:18:57.500 or ancestral strain

00:18:59.360 of the virus

00:19:00.080 that was spreading

00:19:01.580 in January

00:19:02.360 and February

00:19:03.120 of 2020,

00:19:04.480 as we evolved

00:19:05.940 into different variants,

00:19:07.500 including Omicron,

00:19:09.480 it became much

00:19:10.560 more transmissible,

00:19:12.260 not necessarily

00:19:13.280 more serious,

00:19:14.680 but more transmissible.

00:19:16.440 So people who were vaccinated

00:19:18.080 were getting infected,

00:19:19.920 but the critical issue

00:19:21.640 that should not be lost

00:19:23.000 is that the vaccination

00:19:24.560 clearly prevented them

00:19:26.780 for the most part

00:19:28.060 from getting severity

00:19:29.540 of disease.

00:19:30.660 Those are the kind of things,

00:19:32.160 Joe,

00:19:32.300 that you mentioned

00:19:32.980 that as the months

00:19:34.400 and the years went by,

00:19:36.000 we learned more and more.

00:19:37.920 And when you learn

00:19:38.800 more and more,

00:19:39.740 you've got to keep up

00:19:40.940 with that information.

00:19:44.140 First,

00:19:44.720 let me get Malone in here.

00:19:45.660 Dr. Malone,

00:19:46.340 I first want to go

00:19:47.420 to the before the vaccine part,

00:19:48.840 the finish of the first clip.

00:19:50.480 The flip-flopping.

00:19:52.140 I mean,

00:19:52.420 you're a doctor.

00:19:53.960 There was not,

00:19:55.100 this was not the normal process

00:19:56.580 of getting more information.

00:19:57.820 There were massive flip-flops

00:19:59.500 of,

00:20:00.420 and with information

00:20:01.240 now changing,

00:20:01.960 just to go

00:20:02.920 with political narrative.

00:20:04.140 Am I incorrect

00:20:05.900 in that assertion,

00:20:07.000 sir?

00:20:09.060 Obviously not.

00:20:10.120 Once again,

00:20:10.700 you're being coy,

00:20:12.060 Steve,

00:20:12.900 forgive me.

00:20:13.400 I know you like

00:20:15.260 to play the humble servant,

00:20:17.060 but we had well-established policy

00:20:21.740 about lockdowns,

00:20:23.380 travel restrictions,

00:20:24.860 masking,

00:20:25.820 social distancing

00:20:26.580 that existed before this,

00:20:28.180 and they were flipped

00:20:29.120 on their heads.

00:20:30.020 And we,

00:20:30.660 no one can forget

00:20:31.440 the flip-flops

00:20:32.160 on the masking

00:20:32.880 and Tony Fauci.

00:20:34.740 But beyond that,

00:20:36.860 he's just,

00:20:37.460 he's just given us

00:20:38.500 a flat,

00:20:39.480 bald-faced lie.

00:20:41.320 Okay?

00:20:42.060 The data are unequivocal.

00:20:44.320 The Cleveland Clinic study

00:20:45.640 and data from all over the world,

00:20:47.840 the people that are

00:20:48.640 most highly inoculated,

00:20:50.720 and it's proportional.

00:20:51.860 The more inoculations

00:20:52.800 you receive,

00:20:54.080 people that are

00:20:54.560 most highly inoculated

00:20:55.740 are the ones

00:20:56.540 that are being hospitalized

00:20:57.700 and dying.

00:20:58.940 In nation after nation

00:21:00.220 after nation now,

00:21:01.380 the data are clear.

00:21:02.940 The ones that are

00:21:03.620 hospitalized and dying

00:21:05.100 are a preponderance

00:21:06.940 of vaccinated.

00:21:07.740 He is citing

00:21:08.980 the unvaccinated

00:21:10.080 as also disingenuous.

00:21:12.100 There is no one left

00:21:13.300 that basically

00:21:14.180 has not either

00:21:15.020 been vaccinated

00:21:15.760 or infected,

00:21:16.960 and most have been,

00:21:18.140 most of those

00:21:18.740 that are vaccinated

00:21:19.440 have been infected.

00:21:21.140 So what he's really,

00:21:23.020 the only relevant thing

00:21:24.420 is what is the comparison

00:21:26.480 between the vaccinated,

00:21:28.220 uninfected,

00:21:29.180 and those that have had

00:21:30.500 natural immunity develop

00:21:31.820 because of infection,

00:21:33.160 and what's the effect

00:21:34.400 if you've been vaccinated

00:21:35.500 and then developed

00:21:36.580 natural immunity

00:21:37.360 from infection.

00:21:38.120 And there are multiple

00:21:39.360 studies out that document

00:21:40.840 that this has created

00:21:42.940 a huge problem

00:21:43.880 of immune imprinting,

00:21:45.320 which Tony completely

00:21:47.280 disregards.

00:21:48.860 They're in major journals,

00:21:50.440 and he acts as if

00:21:51.540 those data don't exist.

00:21:53.340 But what he just said

00:21:54.500 about the highly inoculated

00:21:57.620 being protected,

00:21:59.100 about the jabs,

00:22:01.140 the booster jabs,

00:22:02.280 protecting from the severe disease,

00:22:04.420 that is a documentable lie.

00:22:07.680 It is not consistent

00:22:08.760 with the data,

00:22:10.040 and the contrary is true.

00:22:12.580 Furthermore,

00:22:13.640 this whole issue

00:22:15.860 about the boosters

00:22:17.440 that he's talking about

00:22:18.700 and these mass vaccinations,

00:22:21.000 what he also neglects

00:22:22.420 is something that Peter

00:22:23.680 and Navarro and I discussed

00:22:25.120 so long ago on your program,

00:22:26.960 which is this mass vaccination

00:22:29.400 into an outbreak

00:22:31.200 will drive selection

00:22:33.180 of vaccine-resistant mutants.

00:22:35.480 And that's exactly

00:22:36.380 what's happened.

00:22:37.220 Again,

00:22:38.100 he completely obscures this

00:22:40.240 by throwing a cloud

00:22:41.960 of ambiguity around it,

00:22:43.540 but it's the policies

00:22:44.980 that have driven

00:22:45.940 the development

00:22:47.080 of these vaccine-resistant mutants.

00:22:49.040 And they're not only

00:22:49.520 vaccine-resistant,

00:22:50.720 they're also monoclonal

00:22:51.980 antibody-resistant.

00:22:52.960 Natalie,

00:22:56.400 Doctor,

00:22:56.900 I'm going to come back

00:22:57.400 to you about herd immunity

00:22:58.220 in a second,

00:22:58.940 particularly in the early days

00:22:59.960 and the concept

00:23:00.620 and how they were

00:23:01.540 thrown aside.

00:23:02.280 Natalie,

00:23:02.780 your comments

00:23:03.480 on observations

00:23:04.580 of what you just saw.

00:23:06.620 Well,

00:23:06.840 Fauci has this amazing knack,

00:23:08.920 I think,

00:23:09.340 to both simultaneously say,

00:23:11.580 you know,

00:23:11.800 trust the science,

00:23:12.960 follow the experts,

00:23:14.560 but then really

00:23:15.340 his definition

00:23:16.400 of what science is

00:23:17.800 is basically

00:23:18.460 what he agrees with,

00:23:20.180 right?

00:23:20.700 And remember,

00:23:21.300 he basically said,

00:23:22.760 I am the science

00:23:24.020 in that infamous interview.

00:23:25.880 I forget who it was with.

00:23:26.960 I believe it was

00:23:27.500 maybe with Chuck Todd,

00:23:29.060 where he was basically saying,

00:23:30.680 if you dare to question science,

00:23:32.320 you're questioning me.

00:23:33.680 And I think that

00:23:34.400 whether it's

00:23:35.080 when it comes to the vaccines

00:23:36.500 or the origins of COVID,

00:23:37.820 you see that personal bias

00:23:39.820 on display.

00:23:41.200 What I mean by that,

00:23:42.340 there are a bunch

00:23:42.960 of studies and papers

00:23:44.020 that support the theory

00:23:45.580 that COVID-19 escaped

00:23:47.100 from the Wuhan Institute

00:23:48.260 of Virology.

00:23:49.180 To say that there isn't

00:23:50.480 is totally disingenuous,

00:23:52.640 but that's still basically

00:23:54.100 kind of the strapline

00:23:55.160 of the mainstream media,

00:23:56.500 or at least it was

00:23:57.340 coming from Anthony Fauci

00:23:58.480 until he totally

00:23:59.220 got called out.

00:24:00.240 They do the same thing

00:24:01.300 with the vaccines

00:24:02.080 and the mask mandates.

00:24:03.100 There's a whole plethora

00:24:04.460 of studies that indicate

00:24:06.000 very, very, very contrary

00:24:07.460 to what Anthony Fauci

00:24:08.500 is saying in terms

00:24:09.460 of the efficacy

00:24:10.120 and frankly,

00:24:11.420 the safety of the vaccines,

00:24:12.900 but they just act

00:24:13.740 as if it doesn't even exist.

00:24:15.720 And I think that

00:24:16.520 is the fundamental issue

00:24:17.900 and where you really

00:24:19.340 start to question

00:24:20.700 what's going on

00:24:21.740 because it's not

00:24:22.620 that Anthony Fauci,

00:24:23.560 like I said in the beginning,

00:24:24.640 is approaching this

00:24:25.620 from an even-handed,

00:24:26.840 you know,

00:24:27.040 trust the scientific process,

00:24:28.660 let's question,

00:24:29.320 let's get to the answer

00:24:30.800 through, you know,

00:24:31.940 actual debate and discourse.

00:24:33.660 It's no,

00:24:34.460 we have a theory of the case,

00:24:36.220 we have a thesis,

00:24:37.100 and now we're going

00:24:37.980 to cherry-pick

00:24:38.760 the evidence to get there.

00:24:40.360 And that sort of seems

00:24:41.520 like the reverse process

00:24:42.840 that people who are actually

00:24:44.280 caring about public health

00:24:46.160 would be about.

00:24:47.960 I think that's the calculus

00:24:49.200 that you would have

00:24:50.520 if you cared more

00:24:52.360 about really broadening

00:24:54.440 and expanding

00:24:55.320 the purview of your power.

00:24:57.260 And I think that theory

00:24:58.620 of the case,

00:24:59.240 what I just outlined,

00:25:00.680 is exactly what we saw happen.

00:25:02.580 So when you see him

00:25:03.500 say statements like that,

00:25:05.240 you know,

00:25:05.440 don't just focus on the fact

00:25:06.700 that it's the vaccines

00:25:08.040 or you're talking about

00:25:08.820 the origins of COVID,

00:25:09.820 but you're talking about

00:25:10.960 the entire response,

00:25:12.500 if not the birth of COVID-19

00:25:14.560 and what their true

00:25:16.040 motivations were.

00:25:18.760 We've only got about a minute

00:25:19.860 in this segment,

00:25:20.700 Dr. Malone,

00:25:21.660 so I'm going to start

00:25:22.620 here with you

00:25:23.520 and then hold over

00:25:24.660 and come back to you.

00:25:26.060 Natalie just laid out

00:25:26.860 exactly what the predicate

00:25:27.900 for my herd immunity.

00:25:30.360 Correct me if I'm wrong

00:25:30.960 because we had Hatfield

00:25:31.700 on her as our consultant

00:25:32.640 for the first week

00:25:33.360 before he went to the White House

00:25:34.440 when we started the show

00:25:35.240 back in January 2020.

00:25:37.160 Herd immunity was,

00:25:38.500 it's kind of the same,

00:25:39.060 it was just kind of

00:25:40.060 thrown aside

00:25:40.620 and then he never heard

00:25:41.420 it mentioned again

00:25:42.140 by vouching these guys

00:25:43.640 and there had to be

00:25:44.380 some reason for that.

00:25:45.540 Didn't the science

00:25:46.300 at the time

00:25:47.060 lead us to say

00:25:49.060 that herd immunity

00:25:51.200 would actually take place

00:25:52.900 and you should do

00:25:53.560 targeted interventions

00:25:54.540 where you had

00:25:55.240 high comorbidities,

00:25:56.760 whether people were obese,

00:25:57.840 whether they were elderly.

00:25:58.700 isn't that what the science

00:26:00.900 and the public health

00:26:01.820 from the very beginning

00:26:03.660 actually drove?

00:26:05.380 So I tell you what,

00:26:05.940 what we're going to do

00:26:06.440 is go to break

00:26:07.020 and we'll have Dr. Malone

00:26:07.860 think about this

00:26:08.520 because at the beginning

00:26:10.180 of this,

00:26:10.640 it never,

00:26:11.300 because we had Hatfield

00:26:12.100 and all these experts

00:26:12.700 on the first week

00:26:13.280 and they talk about

00:26:13.840 the science

00:26:14.840 and public health

00:26:15.720 and herd immunity

00:26:16.820 and targeted interventions

00:26:18.720 for therapeutics.

00:26:20.820 A vaccine,

00:26:21.540 what is even on the table?

00:26:22.600 Vaccines,

00:26:23.040 we're talking about,

00:26:23.700 it would take 10 or 20 years.

00:26:25.480 It wasn't even a concept

00:26:26.820 at that time.

00:26:28.300 We're going to take

00:26:28.660 a short commercial break.

00:26:30.140 We got,

00:26:30.600 and boy,

00:26:30.880 I love this.

00:26:31.380 We're breaking down,

00:26:31.940 it's like breaking down

00:26:32.600 game film

00:26:33.340 in when you play,

00:26:35.540 if you play football.

00:26:37.340 It's just fantastic.

00:26:38.440 I got Natalie Winters,

00:26:39.920 our executive editor,

00:26:41.820 the co-host

00:26:42.440 and this top investigator

00:26:43.700 before she's been on this

00:26:44.540 for a couple of years

00:26:45.180 and of course,

00:26:45.620 Dr. Robert Malone,

00:26:47.000 the inventor

00:26:47.520 of the underlying technology

00:26:49.240 for the mRNA vaccine.

00:26:52.020 We're going to take

00:26:52.440 a short break.

00:26:53.040 We'll be back in the warm

00:26:53.760 in just a moment.

00:26:55.400 We'll be right back.

00:27:25.400 We'll be right back.

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00:31:53.020 War Room

00:31:53.920 Battleground

00:31:54.660 with Stephen K.

00:31:55.720 Bannon.

00:31:58.480 Okay,

00:31:59.040 welcome back.

00:31:59.860 We're breaking

00:32:00.500 down game film

00:32:01.360 from this morning's

00:32:02.540 Morning Joe

00:32:02.980 and Tony Fauci.

00:32:04.520 We need to do it

00:32:05.400 because this is

00:32:06.700 going to be a,

00:32:07.760 I'm telling you,

00:32:08.660 a titanic battle

00:32:10.000 of how this thing

00:32:11.420 is sorted out

00:32:12.120 in the past,

00:32:13.100 how we got here,

00:32:14.140 who's responsible,

00:32:15.280 who's accountable,

00:32:15.900 and then going forward.

00:32:18.320 So,

00:32:19.480 Dr. Malone,

00:32:20.520 help me out here.

00:32:21.540 The whole first thing,

00:32:22.420 we had guys on the hand,

00:32:23.140 they were talking

00:32:23.560 about therapeutics,

00:32:24.400 they were talking

00:32:24.760 about herd immunity.

00:32:27.140 Vaccines weren't even

00:32:28.140 conceived as a possibility

00:32:30.080 given the clinical trials

00:32:32.780 and everything else.

00:32:33.260 I'm talking about

00:32:33.640 the first hundred days

00:32:34.500 of this,

00:32:34.800 all the way up

00:32:35.300 to April and May.

00:32:37.140 Is Natalie right?

00:32:38.320 He just doesn't,

00:32:38.900 he just doesn't even

00:32:39.860 have a process of science.

00:32:41.220 It's scientism for him.

00:32:42.600 It's Tony Fauci's scientism

00:32:44.160 instead of the scientific process,

00:32:46.220 sir?

00:32:47.500 Well,

00:32:47.940 that's always been the case.

00:32:48.980 We discussed this

00:32:49.660 in length in the book,

00:32:51.200 The Lies My Government Told Me.

00:32:52.860 What you were describing

00:32:53.980 just before the break

00:32:55.120 was the position

00:32:55.960 of the Great Barrington Declaration.

00:32:57.660 And you'll recall

00:32:58.220 that those three

00:32:59.020 very senior full professor

00:33:00.920 epidemiologists

00:33:01.840 from three of the top

00:33:02.820 universities in the world

00:33:04.060 had all come to

00:33:05.240 exactly the same conclusion

00:33:06.500 that you were just laying out.

00:33:08.200 This is also the conclusion

00:33:09.780 of Peter Navarro and I

00:33:11.100 for which we were attacked.

00:33:12.920 And what many of the community

00:33:16.200 said was exactly

00:33:17.360 what you just said.

00:33:18.220 And this was my own

00:33:19.220 threat assessment

00:33:19.960 was to focus

00:33:21.360 on repurposing drugs.

00:33:23.580 We now have documentation

00:33:25.360 from the TGA,

00:33:27.060 for instance,

00:33:27.780 in Australia

00:33:28.540 and many other sources

00:33:30.400 that the reason

00:33:31.760 why there was suppression

00:33:33.720 of these ideas

00:33:35.260 and drugs like ivermectin

00:33:37.440 and hydroxychloroquine

00:33:39.120 is all based on the logic

00:33:41.600 that the nation state

00:33:44.380 should restrict

00:33:46.040 the availability

00:33:46.960 of these products

00:33:48.780 to the general population

00:33:50.780 because to make them available

00:33:52.660 would drive vaccine hesitancy.

00:33:54.880 It was all predicated

00:33:56.300 on the thesis

00:33:57.500 that we would have

00:33:58.300 a safe and effective vaccine.

00:33:59.960 And they began field testing

00:34:02.040 the propaganda strategies

00:34:04.180 that they would deploy

00:34:05.320 about protecting grandmother,

00:34:07.160 et cetera,

00:34:07.560 in a Yale University study,

00:34:11.300 prospective randomized

00:34:12.620 clinical trial

00:34:13.960 with 10 arms

00:34:14.980 designed to determine

00:34:16.900 the best way

00:34:17.880 to get people

00:34:18.940 to accept these products

00:34:20.520 and to compel

00:34:22.420 or entice others

00:34:23.500 to accept them.

00:34:24.560 And they did this

00:34:25.660 before they ever

00:34:26.520 had a product.

00:34:27.580 All the way through,

00:34:28.980 this is based

00:34:30.700 on a bias,

00:34:31.860 a cognitive bias

00:34:32.760 on the part of Tony Fauci

00:34:34.100 that vaccines

00:34:35.360 are the only way

00:34:36.220 to handle

00:34:36.760 this type of

00:34:37.480 infectious disease outbreak.

00:34:39.700 And that has clearly

00:34:41.040 been demonstrated

00:34:42.560 to be false.

00:34:44.100 What we've had

00:34:45.360 is basically

00:34:47.020 three years of suffering

00:34:48.480 as an unnecessary

00:34:50.320 loss of life

00:34:51.440 as a consequence

00:34:52.640 of Tony Fauci's

00:34:54.140 cognitive bias

00:34:55.140 towards the vaccine industry

00:34:57.480 and vaccines.

00:34:58.640 Before I go

00:35:03.860 to the next thing,

00:35:04.380 why does he have

00:35:05.180 a cognitive bias?

00:35:07.200 Because,

00:35:08.280 correct me if you're wrong,

00:35:08.960 the thing he's most known

00:35:09.980 for is AIDS.

00:35:10.940 They've never come up

00:35:11.720 with a vaccine for that.

00:35:12.840 Isn't the cocktail

00:35:14.300 of drugs

00:35:14.780 still therapeutics?

00:35:16.460 I mean,

00:35:16.680 it's not,

00:35:17.840 in the biggest effort,

00:35:19.660 maybe I don't know

00:35:20.280 the science well enough,

00:35:21.640 it's not like

00:35:22.520 Tony Fauci's been

00:35:23.260 at the cutting edge

00:35:23.960 of coming up

00:35:24.380 with vaccines

00:35:25.020 that have solved

00:35:25.580 a lot of things,

00:35:26.220 right?

00:35:26.440 Why would he have

00:35:27.160 a cognitive affiliation?

00:35:31.000 So you're asking me

00:35:32.700 to get inside his head

00:35:33.920 and I'm not a psychologist

00:35:35.840 or a psychiatrist.

00:35:37.220 I will observe

00:35:37.920 that he has repeatedly

00:35:39.960 promised the American people

00:35:41.560 and Congress

00:35:42.580 and received billions

00:35:43.700 of dollars in exchange

00:35:45.200 to develop vaccines,

00:35:47.200 none of which

00:35:47.940 have been forthcoming.

00:35:49.460 So it's not only

00:35:50.280 the AIDS vaccine

00:35:51.180 that's been a failure.

00:35:52.240 He's now at the end

00:35:53.100 of his career

00:35:53.820 and there are virtually

00:35:55.660 no successful

00:35:56.780 vaccines

00:35:57.420 that he's created

00:35:58.440 despite the promises,

00:36:00.620 despite the billions

00:36:01.540 of dollars,

00:36:02.380 despite all of his

00:36:03.480 spin and hype

00:36:04.280 and he has this

00:36:06.220 Vaccine Research Institute.

00:36:08.320 It has been

00:36:09.160 at the forefront

00:36:10.020 of his efforts

00:36:11.120 since the early days

00:36:12.340 in AIDS

00:36:12.920 and I suspect

00:36:14.880 that there's another

00:36:15.740 angle to this.

00:36:16.900 I referred to this

00:36:17.800 in my prior broadcast

00:36:19.000 with Natalie.

00:36:20.220 There is an ancient feud

00:36:21.900 between Bob Gallo

00:36:23.360 and Tony Fauci

00:36:24.500 and Bob Gallo

00:36:26.000 was the one

00:36:26.540 that was driving

00:36:27.300 the vaccine initiative

00:36:28.680 and Tony Fauci

00:36:30.780 came in

00:36:31.420 and scooped it up

00:36:32.340 and kicked Bob out.

00:36:34.380 This, you know,

00:36:35.740 you'll recall

00:36:36.260 when Heckler

00:36:36.860 went on the tube

00:36:37.900 and said we were

00:36:38.560 going to have a vaccine

00:36:39.340 in two years,

00:36:40.420 it wasn't Tony Fauci

00:36:41.380 standing beside her.

00:36:42.940 It was Bob Gallo.

00:36:45.160 Okay.

00:36:45.640 Tony has made

00:36:46.500 all kinds of promises

00:36:47.500 about vaccines

00:36:48.420 all through his career

00:36:49.400 and has been

00:36:50.100 a complete faceplant

00:36:51.800 on that topic.

00:36:53.260 He's a complete failure

00:36:54.460 and this was his last chance

00:36:56.620 to grab the brass ring

00:36:58.020 and he seemed

00:36:59.040 to have just been obsessed

00:37:00.500 with trying to get

00:37:01.960 a Corona vaccine

00:37:02.820 developed and licensed

00:37:05.120 and pushed into the public

00:37:06.400 based on this new technology

00:37:08.480 that he basically

00:37:09.600 had grabbed onto

00:37:11.260 and thrown other

00:37:12.480 prior technologies

00:37:13.680 out the window.

00:37:15.280 And the story goes,

00:37:17.000 for instance,

00:37:17.500 that the reason in part

00:37:19.000 why Rick Wright

00:37:19.740 was kicked out

00:37:20.540 was because he unilaterally

00:37:22.620 issued the contract

00:37:23.520 for the adenovirus vaccine

00:37:25.240 with J&J

00:37:26.460 and he didn't get

00:37:27.680 Tony's approval.

00:37:29.020 Tony didn't want

00:37:29.780 the adenovirus tech advanced.

00:37:31.840 He wanted

00:37:32.260 the Moderna tech advanced.

00:37:34.580 And as I sent

00:37:35.660 to a clip over

00:37:36.880 to Cameron earlier,

00:37:39.500 we have from Tony's diary

00:37:41.560 that he met with

00:37:42.540 Bonsell from Moderna,

00:37:44.680 I think it's January 27th

00:37:46.400 of 2020.

00:37:47.500 Tony was advancing

00:37:50.160 the development

00:37:51.220 of this vaccine

00:37:52.220 before there was

00:37:53.480 any official recognition

00:37:54.980 that we even had

00:37:55.820 an issue here.

00:37:58.180 I want to make sure

00:37:59.180 because I follow this

00:38:00.840 pretty closely,

00:38:01.440 as you know,

00:38:01.920 that's the first time.

00:38:03.060 So Tony,

00:38:03.440 Rick Wright,

00:38:03.840 by the way,

00:38:04.160 was the head of FDA.

00:38:05.500 That was.

00:38:06.220 You're saying that

00:38:07.100 he was the head of BARDA.

00:38:09.460 BARDA, BARDA.

00:38:10.160 I'm sorry, BARDA.

00:38:10.740 He,

00:38:11.240 Bright was a key member here.

00:38:13.500 I didn't realize this.

00:38:14.480 Tony was always,

00:38:15.620 Fauci was always,

00:38:18.200 in a vaccine,

00:38:19.440 always wanted to push

00:38:20.340 the mRNA

00:38:21.440 or the Moderna

00:38:23.220 alternative,

00:38:24.160 correct?

00:38:25.400 Yeah,

00:38:25.940 all the way through this,

00:38:27.140 he seems to be obsessed

00:38:28.540 with advancing this tech

00:38:29.960 as the way

00:38:31.360 to finally

00:38:32.460 validate

00:38:33.600 the huge investment

00:38:34.800 that had been made

00:38:35.520 in his team

00:38:36.240 for the Vaccine Research Center.

00:38:38.240 You may or may not

00:38:39.240 recall

00:38:39.740 those various

00:38:40.840 staged video clips

00:38:42.500 where he showed

00:38:43.220 his vaccine team.

00:38:44.900 This is when he was

00:38:46.280 speaking about

00:38:47.600 the role of

00:38:48.520 African-American woman

00:38:49.940 in developing

00:38:50.920 the vaccine.

00:38:52.200 There was a whole

00:38:53.040 bunch of

00:38:53.960 white coat PR

00:38:55.700 about the Vaccine Research Center

00:38:58.060 that was circulated

00:38:58.960 early on.

00:39:02.060 I remember.

00:39:03.080 So the cognitive bias

00:39:05.760 is because

00:39:07.360 he's never successful

00:39:08.580 and never,

00:39:09.220 never has really

00:39:10.100 never successfully

00:39:11.020 brought a vaccine

00:39:12.060 to fruition.

00:39:12.240 That's my theory

00:39:13.340 of the case.

00:39:13.720 To fruition.

00:39:14.980 He's made promises

00:39:16.280 to Congress.

00:39:17.020 It's fascinating.

00:39:18.120 You can go back

00:39:18.820 in C-SPAN

00:39:19.660 and find the old

00:39:21.080 Tony Fauci testimonies

00:39:22.840 for

00:39:23.380 West Nile virus

00:39:26.300 and

00:39:27.240 also

00:39:28.560 for the Zika virus.

00:39:30.660 They're almost

00:39:31.320 superimposable.

00:39:32.320 He makes the same

00:39:33.260 argument.

00:39:33.920 He makes the same

00:39:34.700 pitch.

00:39:35.320 He asks for the

00:39:36.240 same amount of money.

00:39:37.640 He makes the same

00:39:38.440 promises.

00:39:39.400 And then he's never

00:39:40.240 held accountable.

00:39:40.900 But this is a cycle

00:39:42.060 that he does

00:39:42.800 every two to three years.

00:39:44.300 I've talked about this.

00:39:45.740 It's basically

00:39:46.360 the same business model

00:39:47.660 that the biotech

00:39:48.980 pump and dump

00:39:49.660 experts use.

00:39:51.040 He hypes up

00:39:52.260 a threat,

00:39:53.420 goes to Congress,

00:39:55.040 promises to

00:39:55.900 ease their pain

00:39:56.820 if they only

00:39:57.380 send him,

00:39:58.200 you know,

00:39:59.320 you know,

00:39:59.640 a billion or 10 billion

00:40:00.780 or whatever the number is.

00:40:01.920 They send him the money.

00:40:03.300 He goes away.

00:40:04.380 It gets filtered out

00:40:05.500 into his network.

00:40:07.120 Nothing ever comes of it.

00:40:08.800 He never gets

00:40:09.680 held accountable.

00:40:11.200 And it's

00:40:12.140 wash,

00:40:12.540 rinse,

00:40:12.780 and repeat.

00:40:15.860 Let's go ahead

00:40:16.780 and,

00:40:17.080 pretty shocking,

00:40:18.020 let's go ahead

00:40:18.380 and play,

00:40:18.900 we have another clip

00:40:19.700 from Morning Joe.

00:40:20.400 Let's play the clips

00:40:21.000 and then we'll bring

00:40:21.560 in Natalie.

00:40:23.180 Nicole,

00:40:23.740 and I just want to

00:40:24.960 underline really quickly

00:40:25.920 what Dr. Fauci said

00:40:27.080 because it is so important

00:40:28.380 because there's so much

00:40:29.760 disinformation going on

00:40:31.440 out there,

00:40:32.280 especially about

00:40:33.120 the vaccines.

00:40:33.900 The thing is,

00:40:35.260 the vaccines help

00:40:36.880 curb the severity

00:40:39.000 for the overwhelming

00:40:42.240 majority of people

00:40:43.160 that get the vaccines.

00:40:45.780 Of course,

00:40:46.360 some elderly people

00:40:48.180 obviously will still

00:40:49.520 have challenges.

00:40:50.400 Others will still

00:40:51.080 have challenges.

00:40:52.220 But the data is

00:40:53.060 just so clear.

00:40:54.200 And I know

00:40:54.580 there are people

00:40:55.000 out there

00:40:55.480 that spread

00:40:56.180 disinformation daily.

00:40:58.420 But because

00:40:59.380 it's not black and white,

00:41:01.640 it seems that

00:41:02.820 they move to this

00:41:04.840 more radically.

00:41:07.080 But the fact is,

00:41:08.320 it makes,

00:41:09.280 for most Americans,

00:41:10.480 the reaction less severe.

00:41:12.480 Yeah, well,

00:41:12.840 that leads to the question,

00:41:14.300 Joe.

00:41:14.640 And I would like

00:41:16.220 the answer from you,

00:41:17.100 Dr. Fauci,

00:41:17.900 who you're the pride

00:41:19.140 of Holy Cross College.

00:41:20.980 And I don't believe

00:41:22.100 you were in medical school

00:41:23.300 with Ted Cruz

00:41:24.600 or Jim Jordan.

00:41:26.100 But how many booster shots

00:41:27.680 do you think

00:41:28.420 we will be getting?

00:41:30.460 There's one available now.

00:41:31.860 But how long in the future

00:41:33.420 will we be getting

00:41:34.340 booster shots?

00:41:37.060 You know,

00:41:37.840 we don't know

00:41:38.600 definitively the answer

00:41:39.900 to that.

00:41:40.420 But it is likely

00:41:41.420 that this thing

00:41:42.800 is not going to disappear.

00:41:44.200 It's not going to be

00:41:45.200 eradicated

00:41:45.860 and it's not going

00:41:46.560 to be eliminated.

00:41:47.100 So it's going to be around,

00:41:48.820 you know,

00:41:49.720 for the foreseeable future.

00:41:51.360 So it is likely

00:41:52.340 that we will require

00:41:54.080 an intermittent,

00:41:55.520 likely at the same time

00:41:57.180 as we get a flu vaccine,

00:41:59.080 at least once a year.

00:42:01.180 Very similar

00:42:01.960 to what we do

00:42:02.840 to keep updated

00:42:03.900 on our immunity

00:42:05.320 against influenza.

00:42:06.740 It is very likely

00:42:07.640 that the similar situation

00:42:09.140 we'll be experiencing

00:42:10.760 with COVID,

00:42:11.620 namely getting

00:42:12.300 a booster shot

00:42:13.420 once a year,

00:42:15.140 probably at the same time

00:42:16.440 as we get

00:42:16.960 an influenza shot.

00:42:18.380 actions that remain

00:42:19.620 as to the origin

00:42:20.440 of COVID.

00:42:21.820 The U.S. Department

00:42:22.440 of Energy

00:42:22.860 about two weeks ago

00:42:23.800 put out an assessment

00:42:25.200 saying that they have

00:42:26.280 with low confidence

00:42:27.520 that there's a possibility

00:42:28.620 that this emerged

00:42:29.520 from a lab.

00:42:31.400 Right now,

00:42:32.460 where do you think

00:42:33.800 COVID came from?

00:42:35.780 Yeah.

00:42:36.720 Well, first of all,

00:42:37.800 we don't know.

00:42:38.740 And I think that's where

00:42:39.880 a lot of the accusations

00:42:41.520 and confusion

00:42:42.580 about who says what.

00:42:43.940 We don't know

00:42:44.900 the definitive answer

00:42:46.800 to that.

00:42:47.500 Obviously,

00:42:48.500 there are two possibilities

00:42:50.060 that are being entertained.

00:42:52.800 And I think we need

00:42:53.540 to keep a completely

00:42:54.560 open mind

00:42:55.480 until we have

00:42:56.400 definitive proof.

00:42:58.060 However,

00:42:58.980 having said that,

00:43:00.100 if you look at

00:43:00.940 the information

00:43:01.780 because something

00:43:03.280 might be possible

00:43:04.740 one or the other,

00:43:06.240 that doesn't mean

00:43:07.060 one is more probable

00:43:08.280 than the other.

00:43:09.660 And if you look

00:43:10.340 historically,

00:43:11.360 as well as information

00:43:12.680 that has recently

00:43:14.180 been published

00:43:14.920 by a considerably

00:43:16.100 large group

00:43:17.220 of highly respected

00:43:18.860 international

00:43:19.740 evolutionary virologists,

00:43:22.100 although it isn't

00:43:22.920 definitive,

00:43:23.680 they published

00:43:24.320 in the peer-reviewed

00:43:25.460 literature,

00:43:26.480 when you look

00:43:27.120 at epidemiological,

00:43:28.940 virological,

00:43:29.860 and geospatial

00:43:30.840 information

00:43:31.580 from Wuhan,

00:43:33.420 they feel

00:43:34.120 and have published

00:43:34.860 this,

00:43:35.320 that it is more likely,

00:43:36.680 not definitive,

00:43:38.060 but more likely

00:43:38.960 that it's a natural

00:43:39.940 occurrence

00:43:40.540 from an animal

00:43:41.700 reservoir

00:43:42.220 to a human.

00:43:42.840 having said that,

00:43:44.860 since it isn't

00:43:45.820 definitive,

00:43:46.780 all of us

00:43:47.420 must keep

00:43:48.380 a completely

00:43:49.020 open mind

00:43:50.000 that it could

00:43:51.020 be one or the other.

00:43:52.300 So rather than

00:43:53.260 fighting about it,

00:43:54.760 we should try

00:43:55.480 and absolutely

00:43:56.520 find out

00:43:57.420 which it is,

00:43:58.440 but in the meantime,

00:44:00.300 do whatever you can

00:44:01.720 to prevent

00:44:02.820 either option

00:44:04.160 from happening again.

00:44:06.180 If it's a lab leak,

00:44:07.660 make the labs

00:44:08.620 much more safe,

00:44:10.160 get good regulations

00:44:11.280 about what you can do

00:44:12.580 so that in the future

00:44:14.020 the possibility

00:44:15.120 of this is diminished.

00:44:16.800 If it is a natural

00:44:17.980 evolution

00:44:18.500 from an animal reservoir,

00:44:20.500 take a really good look

00:44:21.700 at the animal-human

00:44:22.600 interface

00:44:23.100 and the fact

00:44:23.780 that animals

00:44:24.520 from the wild

00:44:25.820 are being brought

00:44:26.580 into wet markets

00:44:28.480 which exposes them

00:44:29.940 to the human population.

00:44:32.160 We can,

00:44:32.780 right now,

00:44:33.680 even without knowing

00:44:35.080 definitively

00:44:36.160 what the origin is,

00:44:37.740 we can work

00:44:38.480 on both of those

00:44:39.900 possibilities.

00:44:40.600 Dr. Fauci,

00:44:41.560 of course,

00:44:41.800 in the past

00:44:42.440 you had said

00:44:42.840 you believed

00:44:43.540 that it was

00:44:44.500 transmission

00:44:46.060 from an animal,

00:44:47.020 a natural origin.

00:44:48.060 It sounds like

00:44:48.340 you're still leaning

00:44:48.820 that way,

00:44:49.320 but caveating

00:44:49.880 that we can't

00:44:50.700 say for certain.

00:44:51.820 So please characterize

00:44:52.700 that for me.

00:44:53.580 Absolutely.

00:44:54.160 Okay.

00:44:54.460 And then lastly,

00:44:55.340 though,

00:44:55.600 on that point,

00:44:57.040 how difficult

00:44:58.320 is it to determine

00:44:59.900 its origin

00:45:00.380 with such lack

00:45:01.320 of cooperation

00:45:02.060 from your colleagues

00:45:02.940 in China?

00:45:05.260 It's going to be

00:45:05.980 very difficult

00:45:06.680 to do that.

00:45:07.400 We've got to be able

00:45:08.200 to do it.

00:45:08.840 Surveillance in China.

00:45:10.060 We've got to look

00:45:10.720 at the animals there.

00:45:12.140 We've got to get

00:45:12.900 serial surveillance

00:45:13.760 and we've got to

00:45:14.360 take a look

00:45:14.780 at what's going

00:45:15.280 on in the laboratory

00:45:16.120 there.

00:45:16.900 If we don't have

00:45:17.840 cooperation,

00:45:18.720 we're not going

00:45:19.180 to get the answer.

00:45:22.520 He is so,

00:45:23.400 your colleagues

00:45:23.940 in China,

00:45:24.440 he is so monstrous.

00:45:25.940 I don't even know

00:45:26.560 if I'm going to

00:45:27.020 toss it to you,

00:45:28.260 Natalie.

00:45:28.940 He is a true,

00:45:30.000 he is truly monstrous.

00:45:32.000 That's why this is all

00:45:33.020 got,

00:45:33.260 he's got to do this

00:45:34.100 under oath,

00:45:34.780 you know,

00:45:36.300 under the penalty

00:45:37.040 of perjury

00:45:37.640 because he's

00:45:39.200 demonic of house

00:45:40.400 I'll let you take it.

00:45:42.040 Start wherever

00:45:42.800 you want,

00:45:43.420 ma'am.

00:45:44.340 Yeah,

00:45:44.820 I love the euphemism

00:45:46.280 of cooperation

00:45:47.240 with the Chinese

00:45:48.380 Communist Party.

00:45:49.400 That's what we need

00:45:50.160 to get out of this mess

00:45:51.240 and uncover

00:45:51.740 the origins of COVID.

00:45:53.740 But frankly,

00:45:54.360 he admits it right there

00:45:55.500 that he has colleagues

00:45:56.840 in China

00:45:57.580 and sure he's just

00:45:58.420 answering the guy's

00:45:59.460 question,

00:46:00.440 but that shows

00:46:01.120 that there is

00:46:01.680 this intimate relationship,

00:46:02.860 the sense that

00:46:03.860 Anthony Fauci

00:46:04.800 through the National

00:46:05.520 Institutes of Health

00:46:06.460 was funding

00:46:07.200 scientific research,

00:46:08.560 not just at the

00:46:09.320 Wuhan Institute of Virology,

00:46:10.960 but at a host

00:46:11.700 of Chinese Communist Party

00:46:13.140 controlled labs.

00:46:14.440 And it really is funny,

00:46:15.400 I've actually never

00:46:16.300 once seen

00:46:17.120 Anthony Fauci

00:46:18.320 pressed

00:46:18.900 on the rationale

00:46:20.600 for sending

00:46:21.640 even one penny

00:46:22.840 of taxpayer funds

00:46:24.380 to a lab

00:46:25.400 that is controlled

00:46:26.240 by the Chinese

00:46:26.940 Communist Party,

00:46:28.220 right?

00:46:28.420 They sort of just say,

00:46:29.320 oh,

00:46:29.440 the Wuhan lab,

00:46:30.440 the Wuhan Institute

00:46:31.220 of Virology,

00:46:32.140 they act like

00:46:32.700 it's just some lab

00:46:34.120 that happens to be

00:46:35.020 in China.

00:46:35.920 Why don't they ever

00:46:36.520 mention that it's part

00:46:37.480 of the People's

00:46:38.100 Liberation Army,

00:46:38.860 that it was placed

00:46:39.480 under their control

00:46:40.340 in the early days

00:46:41.160 of the outbreak,

00:46:41.960 that a lot of the

00:46:42.840 blood samples,

00:46:43.700 that the studies

00:46:44.260 that Anthony Fauci

00:46:45.120 was funding,

00:46:46.260 that they were

00:46:46.880 conducting them

00:46:47.540 and doing the research

00:46:48.340 with,

00:46:48.800 were given to them

00:46:49.960 by the Chinese military.

00:46:51.840 I think those are

00:46:52.560 convenient facts

00:46:53.880 that they always leave out

00:46:54.900 that gives Fauci

00:46:56.020 just enough room

00:46:57.000 to sort of play

00:46:58.100 the card of,

00:46:59.120 oh,

00:46:59.240 well,

00:46:59.420 international collaboration

00:47:00.640 is so great

00:47:01.360 for science.

00:47:02.060 No,

00:47:02.600 no,

00:47:02.780 no,

00:47:03.040 and he says,

00:47:03.960 yeah,

00:47:04.180 we have to be,

00:47:04.740 we have to be so,

00:47:05.780 you know,

00:47:06.040 he says,

00:47:06.420 and so earnest,

00:47:07.080 we haven't really

00:47:07.620 have to be in the

00:47:08.300 going forward

00:47:09.080 about,

00:47:10.020 you know,

00:47:10.260 they have to be labs.

00:47:11.400 He knew all this

00:47:11.980 at the time.

00:47:13.020 He knew all this

00:47:13.680 time.

00:47:13.960 He funded this,

00:47:14.760 understand there

00:47:15.360 were no controls

00:47:16.100 and it was completely

00:47:17.380 not up to any

00:47:18.340 kind of standards.

00:47:19.280 He knew all this.

00:47:20.220 This was all known.

00:47:21.280 This was,

00:47:21.920 they have the emails

00:47:22.820 from the,

00:47:23.740 the State Department

00:47:25.000 personnel,

00:47:25.480 from the consulate

00:47:26.560 and from the embassy

00:47:27.300 in,

00:47:27.700 in,

00:47:27.980 in,

00:47:28.300 in Beijing.

00:47:30.360 This is why

00:47:31.140 Morning Joe

00:47:31.680 is just a joke.

00:47:33.000 They're either too

00:47:33.600 dumb to remember it

00:47:34.840 or they,

00:47:35.460 so you got to take a pick.

00:47:36.580 They're either idiots,

00:47:37.580 which it's 50,

00:47:38.600 or they're consciously

00:47:40.160 not bringing up

00:47:41.140 just basic facts

00:47:42.060 you'd have to ask the guy

00:47:43.020 when he says,

00:47:43.460 he goes,

00:47:43.720 you know,

00:47:43.880 we really have to make

00:47:44.960 sure that these are

00:47:46.180 quality.

00:47:46.640 Well,

00:47:46.780 you knew this.

00:47:47.420 Why did you even

00:47:48.040 allow this research

00:47:49.560 to do this weaponization

00:47:50.700 of biology,

00:47:52.260 the directed evolution

00:47:53.400 of weapons?

00:47:55.420 Hang on a second,

00:47:56.340 Natalie,

00:47:56.560 stay right there.

00:47:57.340 Dr. Malone,

00:47:58.180 your,

00:47:58.280 your observations of,

00:48:00.020 because I can only take

00:48:00.860 so much of Fauci now,

00:48:01.720 he's so monstrous.

00:48:02.920 Your observations on

00:48:04.100 what you just heard there

00:48:05.080 from Tony Fauci.

00:48:07.680 Well,

00:48:08.100 first off,

00:48:08.640 Steve,

00:48:08.860 you made the point

00:48:09.580 we need to get him

00:48:10.240 under oath.

00:48:10.900 We already got him

00:48:11.500 under oath,

00:48:12.200 and he had a convenient

00:48:14.440 lapse of memory

00:48:15.480 over 160 times

00:48:17.440 under sworn testimony

00:48:18.960 before the,

00:48:19.920 state attorney generals

00:48:21.800 in the lawsuit

00:48:22.880 against the federal

00:48:23.980 government and Google.

00:48:25.100 So we know what

00:48:25.980 Tony Fauci is going to do.

00:48:27.320 He's going to pretend

00:48:28.140 that he doesn't remember

00:48:29.280 key facts.

00:48:31.040 Now,

00:48:31.720 at a high level,

00:48:33.080 just take a moment.

00:48:34.600 Let's go up to 40,000 feet.

00:48:36.080 What did he just say?

00:48:37.880 He said,

00:48:38.700 there is no way

00:48:40.260 for you

00:48:41.300 or anyone else

00:48:42.340 to make a firm

00:48:43.840 conclusion

00:48:44.560 about the origin

00:48:46.560 of this virus.

00:48:47.900 It is either

00:48:48.920 A or B.

00:48:50.260 He leans

00:48:50.940 towards A,

00:48:52.220 which is the convenient

00:48:53.260 excuse for him.

00:48:54.540 He leans

00:48:55.600 towards it being

00:48:56.800 highly convenient

00:49:01.200 for him

00:49:01.620 if that's the case.

00:49:03.580 He says,

00:49:04.340 there's no way

00:49:05.040 to resolve it

00:49:06.060 unless we get

00:49:07.780 the final data.

00:49:09.600 And then he

00:49:10.840 springs the logic trap.

00:49:13.100 There is no way

00:49:14.180 that we can get

00:49:15.320 those data

00:49:16.000 and we can

00:49:17.160 resolve it

00:49:18.000 because we cannot

00:49:19.460 get cooperation

00:49:20.480 of the CCP.

00:49:22.080 Therefore,

00:49:22.860 there is no way

00:49:23.820 to resolve

00:49:24.400 whether or not

00:49:25.100 he's guilty

00:49:25.840 of the creation

00:49:27.560 of this monster

00:49:28.820 that's killed

00:49:29.620 millions and millions

00:49:31.280 and resulted

00:49:32.500 in this massive

00:49:34.160 economic disruption,

00:49:36.160 et cetera,

00:49:36.880 disruption in the world order.

00:49:38.740 There's no way

00:49:39.640 to resolve

00:49:40.240 whether he's guilty

00:49:41.240 on this.

00:49:42.400 He leans

00:49:43.360 towards the

00:49:44.060 convenient explanation

00:49:45.180 but because of the CCP,

00:49:48.000 we just can't get

00:49:48.920 to the bottom of this

00:49:49.760 despite the fact

00:49:51.400 that Tedros

00:49:53.000 and the director

00:49:55.820 of the Lancet Commission

00:49:56.820 both concluded

00:49:57.780 that we have gotten

00:49:58.680 to the end of it

00:49:59.400 and we know where it is

00:50:00.340 and he's,

00:50:01.480 you know,

00:50:01.800 he's conveniently

00:50:02.520 failing to mention

00:50:03.520 the furium cleavage site,

00:50:05.520 all the paper trail

00:50:06.680 about the funding,

00:50:07.880 what he's done.

00:50:09.060 This is just

00:50:09.800 more deflection.

00:50:10.880 As I say,

00:50:11.280 it's a limited hangout.

00:50:15.820 I want to come back.

00:50:16.760 We don't have time

00:50:17.300 but about how

00:50:18.080 improbable

00:50:19.400 the natural solution

00:50:20.880 is.

00:50:21.160 The Batcave

00:50:21.740 a thousand miles,

00:50:22.960 there's no infections

00:50:23.840 all the way up

00:50:24.420 but it just ends up

00:50:25.240 ridiculous.

00:50:26.920 Totally contrived.

00:50:27.940 It's absurd.

00:50:29.160 And his argument is,

00:50:30.580 well,

00:50:30.720 there's a bunch

00:50:31.160 of scientists

00:50:31.800 that I paid

00:50:32.780 that have come up

00:50:34.260 with a paper

00:50:34.820 that got rammed

00:50:35.720 through a journal

00:50:36.320 that say what I want

00:50:37.660 them to say

00:50:38.380 and so therefore

00:50:39.360 that's the truth.

00:50:41.280 Let's play.

00:50:42.860 We got one more clip.

00:50:43.980 I want to get this in

00:50:44.720 because I'm going to say

00:50:45.100 we did the whole thing

00:50:45.900 and then I want to have

00:50:46.580 Natalie and you guys

00:50:47.500 sum up

00:50:48.160 and we'll come back

00:50:49.820 and do this again

00:50:50.500 some other time.

00:50:51.080 It's just the guy's sick.

00:50:52.440 He's monstrous.

00:50:53.380 Let's go and play

00:50:53.780 the last clip.

00:50:54.280 Would you characterize

00:50:55.680 their efforts

00:50:57.480 as being transparent

00:51:00.720 in any way whatsoever?

00:51:04.180 Joe, there were two things

00:51:05.520 that you just said

00:51:06.260 and I think you need

00:51:06.920 to separate them.

00:51:08.240 One is trying hard

00:51:09.240 to contain it

00:51:10.020 and the other one

00:51:10.680 is transparent.

00:51:12.060 They shut down

00:51:13.020 their country

00:51:13.680 so they did

00:51:14.920 a draconian move

00:51:16.260 to contain it.

00:51:18.100 Transparency

00:51:18.660 is a different problem.

00:51:20.340 Right from the get-go

00:51:21.760 there was a lack

00:51:23.000 of transparency

00:51:23.780 about just what

00:51:24.880 the nature

00:51:25.420 of this virus was

00:51:26.700 and its capability

00:51:27.980 of spreading

00:51:28.680 and even to this day

00:51:30.340 for reasons

00:51:31.040 that are very complicated

00:51:32.200 you know,

00:51:33.000 we don't have

00:51:33.460 the information

00:51:34.120 that we need

00:51:34.840 unfortunately.

00:51:36.740 All right.

00:51:37.540 Let me have it.

00:51:38.400 By the way,

00:51:39.060 by the way,

00:51:39.540 by the way,

00:51:40.040 a total lie.

00:51:40.960 They didn't try

00:51:41.500 to contain it.

00:51:42.080 They tried to send it

00:51:43.340 out all over the world.

00:51:44.380 I'm not saying

00:51:44.900 they let it out

00:51:45.680 of the lab purposely.

00:51:47.280 Look, we've only got

00:51:48.120 a minute, 30 seconds

00:51:49.440 and Natalie,

00:51:50.060 how do people get to you?

00:51:50.900 We'll wrap this up.

00:51:51.760 some other time.

00:51:52.300 How do people get to you

00:51:53.280 and all your writing spam?

00:51:55.140 Natalie G. Winters

00:51:56.120 on all platforms.

00:51:59.080 Natalie,

00:51:59.480 I don't know

00:51:59.820 how you've listened

00:52:00.420 to this guy.

00:52:00.840 You've done the best job

00:52:01.700 of following his testimony.

00:52:02.920 He's so monstrous.

00:52:04.080 I can only take

00:52:04.660 so much of it.

00:52:05.420 It's my Irish in me.

00:52:06.840 I just can only take

00:52:07.560 so much of this guy.

00:52:10.340 Dr. Malone,

00:52:11.340 how do people,

00:52:11.920 how do we get

00:52:12.240 to your Substack?

00:52:15.020 rwmalonemd.substack.com

00:52:16.980 and at rwmalonemd

00:52:19.340 on all platforms.

00:52:22.440 And also your book,

00:52:23.640 Eliza Griffin told me,

00:52:24.520 by the way,

00:52:24.860 Dr. Malone,

00:52:25.420 you've been such a

00:52:26.320 stand-up guy

00:52:28.580 and going through all this

00:52:29.420 for all these years

00:52:30.360 to get down.

00:52:31.160 And by the way,

00:52:31.780 Tony Fauci's going to be

00:52:33.380 brought to the truth.

00:52:35.120 We have to do this

00:52:35.960 as a country.

00:52:36.560 We have to do it

00:52:37.220 for the good of the world.

00:52:38.720 Right?

00:52:39.020 And if you want to take

00:52:39.760 down the CCP,

00:52:41.100 this is one of the ways

00:52:41.980 you start.

00:52:42.980 We'll see you back here

00:52:43.700 at 10 o'clock.

00:52:44.080 I want to thank Natalie

00:52:44.820 and Dr. Malone.

00:52:45.520 We'll see you back here

00:52:46.180 live 10 o'clock

00:52:47.020 tomorrow morning.

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Bannon's War Room - March 16, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 254： The Trials Of Fauci

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