WarRoom Battleground EP 258: The Trials Of Big Pharma
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Sen. Cory Booker (D-New Jersey) is fighting for a bill that would mandate all adolescent boys receive the COVID vaccine at age 12. He argues that it creates a conflict of interest for government employees who make money off of the vaccine to also be dictating the policy about how many times we have to take the vaccine.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
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like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
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here's your host Stephen K Bannon Mr. Ben sell Moderna recently paid NIH 400 million dollars
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do you believe it creates a conflict of interest for the government employees who
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are making money now off of the vaccine to also be dictating the policy about how many times we
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have to take the vaccine good morning senator uh indeed we recently made a before Christmas last
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year a 400 million dollar payment to the NIH for an old patent that they had developed not related
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to COVID but useful in the development of a COVID vaccine uh to to pay them for their work
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it's for the U.S. government to assess how that money you think it creates a conflict of interest
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for the same people deciding the policy of how often we have to take the vaccine to also be making
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money the more times we take the vaccine yes or no this is for the government to decide you have no
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opinion on whether or not that creates a conflict of interest is there a higher interest or a higher
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incidence of myocarditis among adolescent males 16 to 24 after taking your vaccine
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so thank you for the question senator first let me say we care deeply about safety and we are
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working closely with the CDC and the FDA to pretty much a yes or no is there a higher incidence of
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myocarditis among boys 16 to 24 after they take your vaccine the data have shown actually I've seen
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sorry from the CDC actually shown that there's less myocarditis for people who get the vaccine
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who get COVID infection you're you're saying that for ages 16 to 24 among males who take the COVID
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vaccine their risk of myocarditis is less than people who get the disease that is my understanding
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that is not true and I'd like to enter into the record six peer-reviewed papers from the journal of
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vaccine the annals of medicine that say the complete opposite of what you say I also spoke with your
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president just last week and he readily acknowledged in private that yes there is an increased risk of
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myocarditis the fact that you can't say in public is quite disturbing
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do you think it's scientifically sound to mandate three vaccines for adolescent boys
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this is for the public health leaders to decide you've been advocating for it you've been interviewed
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and you've been advocating for boosters do you know when the myocarditis is most common among these
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adolescent boys after the second dose when I spoke with your president he readily acknowledged in private
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yeah that maybe there ought to be a discussion whether we ought to have one vaccine versus two
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versus three if 90 percent of the myocarditis comes after the second dose why don't we have a rational
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discussion about one Marty McCary a physician from Johns Hopkins has said exactly the same thing it's
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been discussed and yet we have this ridiculous notion from the CDC so the CDC says and I'll ask you this
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question let's start it as a question your 16 year olds had COVID your 16 year old gets better
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and now has recovered from COVID you vaccinate them and they get myocarditis are you going to give
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them two more vaccines your child give them two more vaccines I'm not a clinician I would have to
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discuss you have children I do have you vaccinated your children I have how many times
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three or four times three or four times so the CDC recommends this and you know you're obviously
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someone who's self-interested in the outcome here but the CDC says that if your 15 16 year old gets
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COVID recovers takes a vaccine and gets myocarditis is hospitalized with elevated heart enzymes and is
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very sick the CDC says as soon as he gets better vaccinating him again you know how many American
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parents think that that's a rational reasonable thing to do do you know how many countries don't
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do this for children Sweden doesn't offer the vaccine for kids under 12 unless they're at risk
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for severe disease and I agree with that I'm not saying never on any of this I think it's a very
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reasonable position to say kids at risk or have some diseases that there may be a reason for vaccinating
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some children Finland doesn't recommend it for under 12 months Norway also England as well France
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Poland Germany Switzerland and all vaccinate 12 and up so we got half the world who have looked at
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these studies there's a study in Israel of thousands of patients and yet you sit here and act as if
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you've never heard of myocarditis and you don't think it's an increased risk for young adolescent males
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when all of the studies who isolate out people by age have found that yes there's an increased risk
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after taking your vaccine Pfizer too but worse with Moderna there's an increased risk senator I was
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comparing it to somebody who gets COVID well that's also not true either but there's an increased risk
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of getting it but even when they compare it to the disease there are many papers out there who's do
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that do show that there's more of a risk of myocarditis after vaccination so you have to weigh the risk
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and balances and you are right you're going to make less money because you're going to try and they're already
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trying the CDC's got it on their schedule they're going to try to force all the kids in America to do this
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through school but guess what parents aren't going to do it they've seen that COVID is not deadly in
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children and you're right it's become less deadly over time your market's going down so you aren't
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going to make as much money I'm all for you making money in an honest way but I don't like the idea
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that the people making the decisions in government are also receiving money and are now conflicted in
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their interest thank you Senator Paulson how is it that Dr. Fauci is still with the NIH
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the man's a publicity hound the man is only interested in money money I understand that
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Anthony Fauci developed COVID-19 in 2014 please have Dr. Fauci explain this to Americans why he sold it
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to the Chinese to use against us so I think he's a little psycho don't you
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did this on purpose find one now so you guys can play your game and stop doing this big pandemic
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we the people are going to find him we're going to rip his little hat off and down his neck
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thanks thank you so it it is interesting um troublesome and sad the extraordinary degree
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of divisiveness that we have in society somebody who can look at i don't think we're i i don't think
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we're divided any i don't i'm not sure we're divided uh by the way so it is uh the 22nd 22 march
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year of early 2023 it is wednesday and i wanted to mix it up you know i was going to come back and
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start with all the stuff in new york the new york post is breaking stories about the grand jury and
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disarray but as i've said we can't take time away from the important signal stories about signal and
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what is really going in the world and what most impacts your life in the life of the nation
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to play these games with the administrative say we are going to get into this later and do it but
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so we'll get you up to speed on everything um naomi first i have a a question
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yale you just heard rand paul you know the only thing i think i'd rather see
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than than dr rand paul going with these executives or affectionate these guys is to see natalie winters
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and naomi wolf if they were up there as the grand inquisitors asking your questions the people
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at young men at yale are young men at yale still mandated you heard that exchange right there
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are they still mandated to take this vaccine i'm not saying you can take a religious exemption
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but is there overall a mandate from from from the hollowed halls of yale to force vaccinations on these
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kids um so the audio is a little difficult for me um letting your producers know but i think i heard you
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ask if young men at yale are still being mandated to take these vaccines and the answer as of my last
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information about this the start of spring semester was yes they can only get out of it um if they get
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a religious exemption and uh religious exemptions had been until the focus that we all put on yale
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just around christmas and after uh virtually impossible to get so to my knowledge president
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salovey has not rescinded the mandate it's not just young men it's young women being forced to take the
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bivalent vaccine and may i just say just to go back to campus um just to not lose the thirty
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thousand dollars their parents paid for the previous semester um you know stefan pancel was flat out
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lying and i'm glad that uh senator paul told him and told america that he was lying about myocarditis
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hang on well hang on hang on one second we're gonna get this tell the audience who that guy is we had a
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chyron but i want you i want you to set it up tell it who is this is an incredibly important senate
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hearing who is that individual you're seeing and then you can walk through obviously rand paul's like
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you he's got all the details he's got although when he asked a question he already knows what the
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correct answer should be who is that individual why is he important and why is he sitting there in
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front of a senate inquiry on the vaccine this late in the game ma'am this late in the day exactly
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well that uh ladies and gentlemen is stefan bancel who is the ceo to my knowledge of moderna and
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moderna is a company that had not had a single success until um they whacked together this mrna
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injection which basically uses the same technology of the pfizer injection that we've been exposing
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um with your help and so he's answering questions about um the weaponization basically of this
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injection the economics of it and and why he's been advocating for it to be mandated and boosted
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into people who are at statistically insignificant risk for serious outcomes from covid but who have
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statistically horrific outcomes um after having been injected with this murderous injection and
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what i was just going to hold up in this amazing reference is that um our dr chris flowers in uh in
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march of 2022 published a report showing that pfizer and again modern uses the same technology
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new as of june of 2021 so like two years ago that the uh injections had damaged the hearts of
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35 um minors so and it was only four months later that there was a press release uh released by our
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government so basically rand paul is asking i think he could ask it even more aggressively it's not just
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that six peer-reviewed studies show that there's elevated risk of myocarditis which is very serious
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heart damage in otherwise perfectly healthy young men um but in fact uh there have been studies showing
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that for for over two years um in a timeline prior to our government stephan boncel modern is ceo uh the
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cdc uh the white house all saying inject the children inject the young adults inject them the the college
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students mandate the college students um they knew that college students were at vanishingly non-existent
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risk of serious outcomes from covid and severe outcomes including um heart transplants and heart
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damage and and early death um from from from this injection and by the way now we know the
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mechanism uh the heart is damaged from um everything from spike proteins to the tendency of the lipid
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nanoparticles to to aggregate um in the bloodstream so we we know that you're taking the hearts of
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perfectly healthy young men and young women and creating an environment in their bodies that that
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damages damages damages their their cardiac health and hang on hang on hang on for i want to make
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sure the audience that i understand it so hopefully the audience can understand it also although the
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audience is oftentimes far ahead of where i am on these topics um if and i want to make sure i just
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understand this we you have done with the war room posse volunteers and the lawyers and amy kelly's
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coordination your coordination you've guys guys have gone through a a a vast store of information
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that's the company's internal basically documents correct essentially and what they knew about
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research and things were going on correct roughly that what that huge book is is is reports yes what
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rand paul is talking about okay rand paul is talking about in addition to that there's six
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six independent peer reviews that looked at other data sets either did their not experimentation but
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looked at other data sets and came to the same conclusion as as you as the reports that you're
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pulling together from inside pfizer's own studies am i correct in this yes that's absolutely correct
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but at least six i mean that's that's de minimis um i mean there was recently a study in thailand of
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hundreds of thai youths that showed a third of them i believe had markers for elevated problems with
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their hearts um you know post mrna injection i mean there's no question by now and again like the the fda
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issued a press release in august of 2021 warning parents after four months of propaganda telling parents
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to inject their kids acknowledging that there was um cardiac damage uh myocarditis and pericarditis
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elevated risk so this is well established it's been acknowledged by our own criminals right our own
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criminal syndicate had to you know issue a press release saying well in fact it raises the risk of
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your uh child your adolescent your young adult getting heart damage um so the fact that stephan
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himself thought it was okay to just flat out lie i mean he's in such a bubble of lies he had
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no shame in thinking he could you know pull a fast one past the american people and their representatives
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okay but but but but but but it's easy it's easy to put pull it by steve bannon in many of the war room
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possibly although look at this of the john decides because we we don't know we're just civilians that
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have other things to do in our lives we just we listen to these experts here's what i really don't get
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and and i don't mean to pick on yale because you were at yale and led this protest to try to get
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it but yale correct me if i'm wrong right it has one of the most revered schools of public health
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not just in the country in the world top two or three most revered schools of public health
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so it's not it's in there and that's not staffed by the war and posse or steve bannon that's topped by the
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most brilliant people in public health how could they see the press release how could they know
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because you've been promulgating this stuff all the time how could they see the six or more
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peer-reviewed journals and how can they still mandate unless a parent has a kid all of a sudden
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have a religious conversion right or do something else that's not quite by the rules but they got to
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do it because they got to do it how can yale that has the yale school of public health as one of its
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colleges or schools mandate this in january february march of 2023 that what the problem we have here is
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not just this vaccine and not just this moderna and not just this this is to the heart of what the
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problem here in this country and that the institutions somehow are not providing the same functions
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that they've done from the beginning when they were founded back in the 18th 19th and earliest 20th
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century by generations that came before us that understood what it meant right to have these
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institutions that would be foundational elements of the greatest republic in mankind's history this is
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the beating heart of it so not to make another analogy but how can that happen that's why i don't
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you know we've had these great doctors on from from yale that have you know harvey rish and these are said
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i don't know what's going on with colleagues but this is so in your face how can they not see the
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six studies how can they not see the what you're putting out how can they not see the press release
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how can they not know about the tie study and how can they sit there like authoritarian say no if you
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want to return to this thing that you've worked your ass off since you were three years old to get to
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okay so the thing you said about um our institutions not performing the same functions
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that they did a generation ago is is 100 correct and yale is a perfect example i mean i was absolutely
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mystified when i went there that they were mandating this uh injection that had been um perfected on eight
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mice uh on perfectly healthy young adults and then i i looked into the money flow and yale at this point
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gets more from hhs uh than it gets from tuition it gets 600 million dollars from hhs um in the last
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calendar year and it got only 450 million dollars from tuition so it's literally um it doesn't care it
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doesn't have to care about the students the way it has to care about doing the bidding of the permanent
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deep state health care establishment essentially in addition pfizer set up a facility at yale for
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34 million dollars that has beds in it so they're they're funding yale and president salovey after all
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of this national scrutiny of how they're mandating the kids trafficking the kids bodies according to
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connecticut law about human trafficking he basically issued a letter to the community into the world saying
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in 2023 yale's going to be focused on vaccines so basically the oh oh and there's one more piece
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of evidence that's so important um i think rock dr malone surfaced this but it's a document showing
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and i believe that it's been independently verified that there is an organization by fostered by the world
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economic forum of course of presidents of major universities on that list are yale university princeton
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university also oxford university which originated the astrazeneca vaccine and took hundreds of
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millions from the bill and melinda gates foundation and cambridge university um so and and and many
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chinese universities so these are like the flower of western civilization has been bought out um by the
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same evildoers who have this tiny tight circle of money flow um that i described the last time i spoke with
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you and let us also note that the 400 million dollars in royalties going to nhs from moderna right it's
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a circle right like moderna gets the check from the government the government gives a cut back to nhs
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in royalties well i'm very surprised that um senator paul didn't uh subpoena or demand to see what those
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royalties are because i told all of you i told america on tucker carlson in 2021 that dr fauci does
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not work for us and i've said here and i've said on tucker carlson's program everywhere i could that we
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need to look at his royalties because rfk junior points out that dr fauci has eight patents so if you
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only get a royalty if someone uses the thing right moderna can't just give nih a check for 400 million
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dollars for royalties unless there are billions of units right of the thing that of which the
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royalties add up to 400 million dollars right a royalty is just a percentage of a sale or of a
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unit um so you can't just write a blank check and say it's royalties or that's an even more giant
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criminal act or act of fraud so what we've got to know is it is dr fauci getting royalties we know he
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is we know you can get up to 150 000 a year if you're an nih nih employee with a patent and we
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know that he's got eight patents in hiv injections you know his wife sits on the ethics committee for
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the nih so she'll rubber stamp all the money flow to dr fauci so literally we're one step away from
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seeing the whole circle that you and i discussed uh yesterday and the day before in which china and
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dr fauci are like this dr berica dr dasik um the the money goes then from the captured white house
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to moderna and to pfizer uh they you know dr fauci gets a kickback um moderna gets to make more money
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than they've ever seen in their lives so does uh pfizer all of us get disabled that suits the chinese
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communist party really well or we die or we're infertile um and and it's just a complete circle um and
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and the people who are behind the lab leak the suppression of treatments the vaccines are all
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the same people and in this case getting one 400 million dollar check at christmas we don't know
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of how many it could be every month it could be every quarter you know we don't know if there is
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a 400 million dollar check going to them you know every six weeks we we literally don't know it's the
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first mention oh i i just happened to give him a 400 million dollar check um you know the the the
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most the most disturbing the most disturbing of this the buried lead of this is that you just laid out
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how all because we're not talking about yale qua yale we're talking about yale as a bigger as a massive
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major institution foundational element of our public health system but when you just ticked off every
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great university in the world essentially right yeah particularly for medicine and public health
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because at the beginning one of the things that the universities were with the leaders back in the
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18th and 19th century of uh of uh of medicine and that's one of the foundational elements besides
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being schools of theology was to be schools of medicine what was most disturbing in that
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is that the guy knew because he'd been prepped they got brilliant lawyers they've been prepped
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he knew about the studies he knew where rand paul was going to go with this questioning he would sit
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there and lie bald face lie and not and not even have any kind of reaction to it the the the pharma
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healthcare industrial complex is now so out of control it's it's far more serious i keep telling
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people in this in this town big tech and big pharma are far more dangerous than the
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arms industry which is dangerous enough yeah these guys the arrogance of these guys
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they just had a senator who knows this stuff rand paul asking questions that he knew rand paul had
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the receipts and he sits there and that's why rand paul started to get frustrated he will look you in
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the eye under oath and lie to you and just say hey it's just another day at the office naoma we've
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got a couple of minutes give me your assessment of that because now i think we've entered dangerous
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territory uh well you're not gonna like my assessment of it i mean he definitely did
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that he lied under oath uh there's no question at all um he knew he was lying under oath i guess my
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my question to you i mean i'm gonna put it back in in your court why aren't the republicans moving ahead
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on you know i mean why aren't these people do you do you think this is your area expertise do you
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think that they're first of their minority in the senate but even in the house do you are you seeing
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the type of action that you think you need to see in order to bring this industry to heal
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and actually get real meaningful information out to the american people ma'am i didn't quite hear the
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end of your question but i recognize that the republicans are a minority in the senate um i just
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feel like even rand paul could move from outrage to just spelling out what the legal implications
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are of lying no no but they're not but they're not they're not out they're not a minority in the
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house are they doing enough in the house where they have power are they using this power the way
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they need to because this is maybe one of the toughest enemies we have internally is big pharma and
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big tech are they using that power to the level of smash mouths they need to bring an arrogant guy like
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this to heal no i would say categorically not i mean it's nice to see the twitter evildoers being
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made uncomfortable but now what has happened to them to my knowledge nothing um it's great to see
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stefan boncel called out in a lie but um respectfully i think senator paul should have gone in there
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with i mean he has he has access to it surely um you know with the royalties to whom did they go
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you know that's his government now right that that's his agency um who were the scientists the
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nih how much money did they make did did dr fauci make money did dr burks make money did dr collins
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make money i mean all of these things should have been asked and answered prior to this important
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televised hearing and certainly the uh the implications the follow-up should be spelled out
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and messaged to the american people much more clearly than they are if i were stefan boncel i would think
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okay well that was uncomfortable but you know the this will go into the black hole legacy media won't
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cover it i'll be fine uh naomi we gotta bounce but tell me the book uh how do people get the book the
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books hurtling up the bestseller list let's see it how do people get it how do people follow you
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i just have to show everyone it i'm so excited for this day and i'm so thrilled um for this day which
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would never have happened without the war and posse go to amazon we sold out our first printing in 48
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hours yeah thanks to you all thanks to you mr bannon and your wonderful team so go to amazon
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okay welcome back uh we've got um a lot of stuff to get to when we get to joe allen in a second i just
00:32:03.580
want to get you up to date first off there's total chaos in new york right now with the ag and of
00:32:08.700
course uh mainstream media msnbc or maybe i should say left-wing media msnbc and cnn are complete
00:32:15.020
meltdown over over because they were so sure this afternoon they were getting indictment on president
00:32:20.300
trump and you know getting perp walked on friday or maybe on monday that ain't happening and there's
00:32:25.500
a lot of consternation about what's actually going of course it's a completely made-up case right
00:32:29.740
even judges are saying it's ridiculous there's also a firestorm in federal court right now in new
00:32:37.260
york excuse me in washington dc about this entire mar-a-lago situation trying to get you know president
00:32:43.500
trump's lawyers uh to testify in this this is you know they've had overnight forced them to do it
00:32:50.060
like a one day get your papers ready for appeals there's something as we had mike davis on the last
00:32:55.020
hour something very very strange going on here and uh chief justice roberts that's the court that
00:33:00.380
reports to him so there's going to be a lot in play there we were going to have boris on but they're
00:33:04.540
obviously in and out of lawyer meetings non-stop we'll pick up on that story tomorrow and and like
00:33:09.820
i said i i hate diverting time for it but it is the administrative state coming after president trump
00:33:14.220
what it's doing is galvanizing the nation i can tell you that the polling has been nothing short of
00:33:19.660
just unbelievable i think governor de santos really hurt himself last week with that namby pamby
00:33:25.980
um you know when he came out at that press conference or whatever it was with the planet
00:33:29.820
question uh and and and you know saying the things he said about stormy daniels and the president i think
00:33:34.700
people after waiting the whole weekend people are just sitting there going that's not uh that's not
00:33:39.580
good enough also pierce morgan this interviewer pierce morgan very disturbing for a guy remember we
00:33:45.660
don't have time for on-the-job training and and here he's walked right into the biden narrative
00:33:50.860
of putin as a work criminal uh if you want to get a solution to the ukraine if you want to stop
00:33:57.420
the slaughter of the ukrainian people if you want to you know somehow get this in a place that people
00:34:03.580
can get to a table and start talking you can't designate people as work from beforehand it's it's just
00:34:10.300
absurd it shows a lack of maturity and a lack of really understanding how historical and war
00:34:15.580
processes uh work we didn't designate uh the nazis as war criminals before we defeated them we
00:34:23.740
didn't designate the imperial general staff as war criminals before we defeated them we defeated them
00:34:29.500
first and then you go through the process of where the crimes against humanity took place or war crimes
00:34:35.260
that took place you let the the process you know let the process run its course uh i just think that
00:34:41.100
the santus is showing himself and i think he's been a very good governor i've always been very
00:34:46.060
complimentary of being a governor um i just think he's shown himself in the last couple weeks and i
00:34:50.460
think he's damaged himself much farther than 24. i think there were going to be real questions does he
00:34:56.460
have the discernment does he have the judgment does he have the toughness does he have the experience
00:35:01.740
right can he because the difference between being a governor and being president is the thing of scale
00:35:06.380
right off scale so um the the other things are going on they're vastly important that we just
00:35:13.100
don't even have enough time to get to and that's what we carved out so much time right there these
00:35:16.700
hearings are going on capitol hill about the vaccine about the mandates about all of it right
00:35:21.420
we got to get to the bottom of the wuhan lab you got to get to the bottom of the bioweapons program
00:35:25.260
that went on about who was responsible who's accountable and you got to get to the bottom
00:35:29.180
of this vaccine in addition you got the entire you got the biden family the crime family payments i mean
00:35:34.380
i've never seen a situation where you actually had the bank records up there in a big screen in
00:35:39.500
the mainstream media doesn't want to address it the biden family is on the payroll of the chinese
00:35:43.900
communist party that it can even be a question even james comer and some of these uh types that are not
00:35:49.180
fire breathers are sitting there and shocked by what they're seeing as far as the biden family
00:35:53.340
involvement with a not just a hostile power a power that's an existential threat to the country and to
00:35:58.780
the citizens of the united states the last the two other things is the is the is the this meeting in
00:36:05.740
in moscow which is one of the thing one of the meetings and one of the arrangements and what's
00:36:10.140
coming out of there is going to have an impact on your life your children's life and your grandchildren's
00:36:13.980
life for decades and decades and decades and not just geopolitically and militarily and for the
00:36:19.340
country's security but also for the country's finances the number one thing coming out there was
00:36:24.060
putin saying i'm going to start doing all my transactions and convert them into a chinese yuan
00:36:29.660
which is their currency uh this is huge remember their number one focus with their partners in tehran
00:36:35.340
with now the saudis with the iraqis all this they're getting rid of petrodollars and going to petroyuan
00:36:41.660
that is a game changer i have argued this for years and over the last year with birch gold we
00:36:46.700
we actually started putting together the end of the dollar empire now look there's all types of
00:36:51.180
obligations that come with being the being the prime reserve currency of being the world's
00:36:55.580
reserve currency like the british head with the british pound uh and and that's not all easy and
00:37:01.180
sometimes it gets you into things that maybe you don't want to get into but if you're going to not
00:37:05.980
become the prime reserve currency that is a long process of conscious decisions you make not to do that
00:37:11.660
not to have it for foisted on you and right now we're not in the financial shape if we were not the
00:37:16.460
prime reserve currency our entire economy and capital structure and and finance would be totally
00:37:21.660
upside down but it's being forced on us because of decisions of people like jay pal of people like
00:37:28.940
janet yellen of people like joe biden in this illegitimate regime and so there's not even enough
00:37:33.980
time uh to go through all that because part of it we got to divert to this clown show that's going on
00:37:39.340
in new york city and in the in the deeper clown show that's going on around this uh grand jury in
00:37:44.620
washington dc that's going after president trump for everything you have to ask yourself if the
00:37:49.340
people have caused this chaos and caused this disorder is their number one thing instead of
00:37:53.980
trying to solve the underlying problems they created because this is all self-created uh is to go after
00:37:59.100
donald trump what does that say about it is was it is it donald trump's fault of of where the economy
00:38:05.100
is today is donald trump's fault of where the federal reserve and interest rates are today is it donald
00:38:09.740
trump's fault uh about uh this the legion of doom that is now coming together between persia and china
00:38:17.580
and uh in russia pakistan and others president trump's whole work was to keep those separate
00:38:21.900
put pressure on china to start to break the ccp and to bring our jobs home in the process so you have to
00:38:28.220
ask yourself besides the vaccine the other biggest story because i think at the end of the day this is
00:38:34.140
we're not just hurtling towards the singularity the age of ai is clearly upon us and i want to get
00:38:39.420
to can i tell you what let's play i want to play the cuts if memphis can let's play the cuts and i want
00:38:43.900
to bring our own joe allen in this is so disturbing that i want to make sure you see it we have played
00:38:49.420
parts of this before i want to make sure you see it and then we'll bring joe in to uh to uh to uh
00:38:54.780
give us observations memphis can you go ahead and play the cuts what do you think happens to humanity
00:39:01.260
and so i think there's almost like three ages to mankind or to compute right up until recently
00:39:06.540
almost all compute was human and then now we're in kind of this mixed era and then we're probably
00:39:11.020
going to move into an era where most of the compute in terms of the actual impact of the world is going
00:39:15.660
to be completely driven by machines we're kind of in this transition phase do you think agi eventually
00:39:20.220
subsumes us are we as biology just a bootloader for a future machine intelligence certainly the future
00:39:27.820
will be like and what humans do and how we spend our time and you know what is made available to
00:39:33.420
us will be really quite different but that's been the case for a kind of like life before and after
00:39:40.140
every technological revolution history um i do think this one is going to be the biggest one ever
00:39:46.300
but i suspect that's a mistake and it's just each one gets bigger and there will be something like
00:39:50.780
far more huge on the other side that we can't like think about trying to think about artificial
00:39:55.420
intelligence before the computer revolution be like before the industrial revolution at least
00:39:59.020
that would have been tough but do you think it's a um technological leap or do you think it's a
00:40:03.740
shift in terms of introducing a new species that's competing with us because it seems like at some
00:40:08.300
point you hit a transition i think if we're in any world where it's like a us versus them situation
00:40:13.900
that's quite bad and we just shouldn't go there which i think means some version of emerge at least for
00:40:20.780
some of us um or as my co-founder ilia likes to say you know we just we build an agi that really
00:40:27.500
loves humanity i do suspect that even if we think like the merge is good and a lot of people are going
00:40:32.460
to do that really long term there will be many people who don't want to i think human drives will
00:40:37.100
sort of be remarkably the same as they have been for tens of thousands of years and there will be
00:40:43.020
like i don't know maybe it's like an exclusion zone or something where if you want to like you know
00:40:47.020
live the like no agi life on earth you do that and if you want to merge and go off explore the stars
00:40:51.820
you do that okay uh we don't have the what we had booted up this morning maybe we get back to that
00:40:59.260
again uh tomorrow joe but this is tell me what we just saw so steve that's uh sam altman uh open ai's
00:41:10.060
ceo uh actually and if uh memphis uh just wants to ready be ready to roll on it uh we'll have a
00:41:17.260
another clip for you in just a second uh bill gates but so what we just saw is sam altman talking about
00:41:24.380
the future of artificial intelligence which is something that he's he was very careful to discuss
00:41:30.460
on abc uh which we covered last night and it was what he's saying there is that we are at the inflection
00:41:40.940
point that the sort of singularity community talks about that the uh people who are warning about
00:41:47.420
artificial super intelligence are talking about and he's also discussing the you know what the
00:41:54.300
solution is if you have super intelligent artificial intelligence or if you have an
00:42:01.100
slow down slow down slow down slow down slow down slow down stop you don't bury the lead
00:42:07.580
because i got to go back this is so important we have been and this is what i've been warning people
00:42:12.540
about there's things happening in these companies there's things happening in the weapons labs there's
00:42:17.260
things happening in the research universities of the whole singularity which is quantum computing
00:42:22.300
and regenerative robotics and crisper and nanotechnology and biotechnology of all the
00:42:26.620
different elements that converge for the the true singularity and ai being a part of that
00:42:32.540
we are so much farther ahead than it's being let on and so i just want to hit rewind for a second
00:42:41.100
go to this because this was the key thing when he says inflection point he says an inflection point
00:42:45.740
ra with ai well hold it dude chat gtpt is within we are we are within a hundred days of when it was released to davos man
00:42:55.900
this is my point is that it is the acceleration at an accelerating pace
00:43:02.140
what's already and now you've got google's going to turn their entire business model over to
00:43:06.380
surging these guys and his other founder came off the beach go back to work
00:43:09.660
uh uh zuckerberg has just let go he's blunt his biggest thing was to pivot to metaverse metaverse
00:43:15.980
forget about metaverse don't still be a metaverse forget about we're all ai
00:43:19.900
bill gates the agent gates age ai he said all microsoft's gonna do this these are massive companies
00:43:26.220
that that run the intellectual probably run it all today and what's altman saying is what i have been
00:43:31.500
i have feared for been fearing for a while oh yeah we're at a flexion point because what people
00:43:36.940
are talking about is going to take decades to get to we're here today and it's going if we're not
00:43:43.020
here today you're going to be here pretty quickly because we're within a hundred days of when this
00:43:47.260
just got released to the to the public joe allen please tell me where i'm wrong there brother
00:43:55.820
unfortunately i don't have any good news on that front uh other than the you know human beings have
00:44:01.180
always muddled through whatever the problem and i'm sure that we will continue to do so but
00:44:06.940
when you talk about just something as simple as the large language model which is actually
00:44:12.060
i believe going to be a huge impact going forward the chat or the gpt4 that they just released they've
00:44:19.820
been that was basically ready to roll last year they're just now releasing it gpt5 is right behind
00:44:26.460
it and then of course as we've discussed google meta uh baidu gab elon musk all these people are
00:44:35.820
starting to jump into that game and push it forward but there are all these other types of artificial
00:44:40.460
intelligence that you've got everything from simulation modeling whether it be for engineering
00:44:46.380
or social modeling you've got uh you know everything from like protein modeling to uh
00:44:53.420
the kind of battlefield surveillance and pattern recognition in communications so the goal what sam
00:45:00.300
altman's talking about there the goal is artificial general intelligence that's the open that's the
00:45:06.780
stated goal at open ai and that will be just de facto a super intelligence right they just you have a
00:45:14.860
system that is faster than a human being its scope is broader than a human being and its memory is
00:45:21.180
basically indefinite and so i was surprised reading bill gates uh recent post uh the age of ai
00:45:30.380
has begun you know uh he tax it at the bottom but he basically says super intelligence is on the way
00:45:38.780
uh and what he means by that is artificial general intelligence and it's something that you know gates
00:45:44.940
is a friend of ray kurzweil's but he's always expressed a lot of skepticism towards these ideas
00:45:50.780
he's always kind of held back like many people in ai now he's kind of he's coming out the other end
00:45:56.860
saying that he sees something like a singularity that wasn't his words exactly but you know he
00:46:02.940
he referenced in his blog post bill gate right he references two books two books that we've discussed
00:46:09.420
on the show for two years now the one being super intelligent and the other one i tell you what hey
00:46:16.460
joe joe hang on for one second obviously this is important and we're gonna have you back on the
00:46:22.860
morning show but just hang around right there because we have breaking news coming and this
00:46:28.060
upsets me knowing we got to pivot to this but we have to just hang right there i got boris epstein
00:46:33.100
joining us uh from uh florida uh boris there's a explosion on the on the internet now about a
00:46:40.220
letter that's exculpatory and they've they've can't they've canceled the the grand juries tell us what
00:46:46.540
exactly is going on steve what's going on is it's honor to be with you honor be with the pot what's
00:46:52.220
going on is this is that the manhattan what for what is being reported the manhattan da is in total
00:46:57.420
meltdown there's complete dissension internally and there's dissension between the da and the
00:47:02.380
grand jury they cancel the grand jury meeting this is all according to public reports but here's the
00:47:06.700
bottom line the letter just went out from uh from i believe uh the president's attorneys and the
00:47:13.420
letter's been public that was originally sent by michael cohn's attorney mcdermott will and emory to
00:47:18.220
the federal election commission specifically say specifically and directly saying that michael
00:47:23.820
cohn acted on his own volition there was no involvement of president from president trump
00:47:28.140
whatsoever it's it's completely exculpatory and it's a game ender it ends this already joke of
00:47:34.060
a hoax of a case that has been targeted against president trump that this letter is a bombshell
00:47:39.340
it's out everywhere daily mail has it it's from it's from mcdermott will and emory as michael
00:47:43.980
cohn's counsel michael cohn's attorneys in 2018 to the fcc federal election commission again saying
00:47:49.740
that michael cohn acted fully and completely on his own volition okay but boris here's the thing
00:47:56.700
this letter is from 2018 this the people have known this how did the how did the da take the whole world
00:48:04.140
into down this rat hole or the sinkhole and and not and not have this letter i mean this letter is
00:48:10.220
very exculpatory how could that possibly happen sir okay i think we just lost boris with the bad
00:48:20.620
connection let's see we can get him rebooted on okay um steve i'm right here can you hear me hey boris
00:48:26.220
yeah boris boris we totally lost you so you guys take it from the top hit it again
00:48:30.460
what i'm saying is it's three letters it's t c and s trump derangement syndrome president trump
00:48:36.220
is the only leader right now leading the american people president trump is the only one standing
00:48:40.940
between america and its complete downfall and he's dominating by 40 points in all the polling
00:48:46.140
the democrats see this they know it they're trying to bring him down with these hoaxes
00:48:49.500
and they're failing epically failing in with the manhattan da failing new york ag hoax georgia
00:48:55.980
failing with the quote-unquote special council president trump and his team are dominating all
00:49:00.460
across the board and they're doing it for the american people but boris is this are they taking
00:49:06.780
a back seat because they got exculpatory evidence da in new york is clearly a disaster are they stepping
00:49:12.460
back here because the mar-a-lago thing is picked up including you got appeals court meeting in the
00:49:17.100
middle of the night which nobody's ever heard of what's going on in the on this mar-a-lago thing
00:49:21.180
do they think they got a better chance to get their hooks and president trump that way
00:49:24.540
and they're just telling the da in new york you're so incompetent just back off steve i can't talk
00:49:30.780
about certain of those uh proceedings deliberations but let me tell you this absolutely not president
00:49:34.940
trump did everything correctly by the book and all of these undertakings all these fronts and no
00:49:39.900
i think the manhattan da is acting uh you know independently and hope maybe with some direction
00:49:45.500
from others saying hey this is ludicrous the financial times you know the liberal bible is saying
00:49:50.620
don't do this and you've got joe manchin saying don't do this you've got liberal outlets calling
00:49:56.380
on that hoax to be put to an end and i think that's causing a ton of disarray and a ton of problems
00:50:00.860
the new york post reporting that assistant district attorneys are shaking their heads
00:50:04.380
at this witch hunt which should end now especially after this latest exculpatory evidence now two of
00:50:09.900
michael cohen's prior lawyers both bob costello for whom he signed an attorney crime waiver and
00:50:15.260
mcdermott will and emery for which he signed a waiver now all saying that michael cohen
00:50:19.980
is a liar and he lied and he acted on his own volition but boris is judge roberts going to step
00:50:27.660
in as this as a supervisor supervisory supreme court justice on this situation with the appeals process
00:50:35.340
in in uh washington dc or is the president going to go to the supreme court and look for a ruling
00:50:39.820
from them since the appeals court looks like they're going to come out on the side of uh jack smith sir
00:50:44.860
steve again i can't get into the specific deals because whoever's leaking this it's all under
00:50:49.820
steel they're committing a actually a huge violation by doing so but here's what i will say president
00:50:54.780
trump is going to continue to fight for the constitution continue to fight for the american
00:50:58.860
people and also president trump and did everything by the book did everything correctly and he's got
00:51:04.620
absolutely nothing to hide boris mike davis said the exact same thing at the start of the five
00:51:10.620
o'clock show how do people get to you on social media brother steve thanks so much for having my
00:51:15.500
information the website is boris cp.com sign up right now boris cp.com how do you get her at boris cp
00:51:20.540
twitter at boris cp how don't you show so boris and how does the program boris underscore
00:51:24.220
website stay strong god bless and i'll talk to you tomorrow thank you breaking news massive exculpatory
00:51:30.940
letter uh coming up from another one of uh michael cohen's lawyers we'll make sure we get it up and put it
00:51:36.140
up in the chat and uh so tomorrow morning uh joe i'm gonna talk to you tonight i want you back and
00:51:40.380
we got to carve time out and go through this this is when this age is remembered it ain't going to be
00:51:46.060
remembered for the manhattan d.a chasing donald trump trust me it's not going to be remembered from
00:51:50.060
jack smith and another one of these bogus grand juries it's going to be remembered for this artificial
00:51:55.580
intelligence i think gates is right and we got to come up start coming up with solutions now uh joe how
00:52:00.620
do people get to how they follow you overnight to you back on tomorrow well i gotta say you know steve
00:52:06.060
uh at least there's a little good news brought in there uh at the end but uh so uh joebot.xyz
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uh war room.org under the transhumanism tab article up mental jigsaw about the effect of
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artificial intelligence on the brain how it manipulates the brain to react with an anthropomorphic
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response also at joe botxyz getter and twitter thank you brother i want to thank the team
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