Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 267： Standing Up Against China; Where The Battle Lies For 2024

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:14.300 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:16.980 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:20.440 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:23.120 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,

00:00:25.680 get total control and total power.

00:00:27.320 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:30.280 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:31.460 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:34.300 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:36.560 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:38.840 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:40.740 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.

00:00:44.680 War Room, Battleground.

00:00:46.460 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.000 Peter K. Navarro in for the Admiral today.

00:00:53.720 I am at peternavarro.substack.com.

00:00:57.320 I'm going to promise you something here,

00:00:59.780 and let's see if I deliver it by the end of the hour.

00:01:02.320 I'm going to give you the best 20 minutes yet to date

00:01:06.820 on the thread of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:01:09.540 That's going to come in the bottom of the hour

00:01:12.120 with one of the best hidden experts on China,

00:01:18.060 communist China, by the way, in the world.

00:01:20.280 But first, what I want to do is quickly bring on a gentleman

00:01:26.460 who, whenever I guest host, I love to have him on.

00:01:30.180 He's like one of my favorite folks.

00:01:31.740 He has the most insightful takes on the political environment.

00:01:36.460 It's Richard Barris.

00:01:37.300 And what I want to do with Richard is look at this big picture

00:01:43.480 of 2024 and what the real battleground states are going to be.

00:01:49.860 You know, you might think that the battleground states

00:01:51.960 are always the same battleground states,

00:01:54.680 but that's not true at all.

00:01:56.360 I mean, I've only gone through a couple of cycles with the boss.

00:01:59.740 In 2016, it was all about the Rust Belt,

00:02:04.020 Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

00:02:06.760 These were the blue wall states that would crumble under the weight

00:02:11.180 of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.

00:02:15.680 But when we got to 2020 to at least the surprise

00:02:21.180 of what was a fairly inept campaign run by Kushner,

00:02:27.420 Georgia came into play, as did Arizona,

00:02:31.720 which were traditionally Republican strongholds

00:02:34.780 we didn't have to worry about.

00:02:36.700 And now, with this stunning election this week

00:02:43.360 of an avowedly pro-choice radical Democrat

00:02:48.340 for the Supreme Court in Wisconsin,

00:02:51.020 which has swung the balance there,

00:02:53.200 we have to ask ourselves the question,

00:02:56.160 is Wisconsin lost?

00:02:58.740 So, Richard, my brother, come on in.

00:03:03.700 Greetings.

00:03:04.720 And why don't you just kick off?

00:03:06.240 You've got some charts there.

00:03:08.860 Wax eloquent on this debacle in Wisconsin, sir, if you would.

00:03:14.040 Hey, thanks for having me on, Peter.

00:03:15.640 As always, I'm really most happy to be here with you.

00:03:19.180 You know, before we throw up the charts,

00:03:21.240 I just want to say this to remind everybody,

00:03:23.360 because I think it's important for Republican voters

00:03:26.500 to remember this.

00:03:27.560 Before Donald Trump,

00:03:30.580 whether you're talking about Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,

00:03:34.080 before Donald Trump, the blue wall,

00:03:37.100 whatever we're talking about,

00:03:38.320 whatever combination of states to get to 270

00:03:40.860 we're talking about,

00:03:42.140 the Republican Party was a party of losers.

00:03:45.200 They lost repeatedly.

00:03:48.240 From Herbert Walker Bush on,

00:03:50.560 they did have a W get in there,

00:03:52.900 barely, if you remember.

00:03:54.180 And then in 04, W was reelected at one time

00:03:58.200 having a 90% approval rating.

00:04:00.380 He was elected with a few thousand votes

00:04:02.440 that all came down to the state of Iowa.

00:04:04.600 So it's important to remember

00:04:06.200 that the state we're going to look at now,

00:04:07.960 Wisconsin,

00:04:09.020 Republicans had not won since 1984

00:04:12.120 at the presidential level.

00:04:14.520 Reagan, of course, carried it.

00:04:16.080 He handed over the banner to Herbert Walker Bush,

00:04:18.780 who went on to win

00:04:19.740 in a pretty easy electoral vote landslide.

00:04:23.500 Yet, Wisconsin rejected Herbert Walker Bush

00:04:26.560 for Dukakis in 88.

00:04:28.980 All right, so Pennsylvania, Michigan went to Bush,

00:04:32.940 but those states became more Democratic

00:04:35.280 over this period,

00:04:36.520 and Wisconsin became the easier state

00:04:40.120 for MAGA, I would say,

00:04:41.600 for Trump, not Republicans,

00:04:44.360 for Trump to carry.

00:04:45.560 And it may pull the hardest,

00:04:47.680 it may look to be the more difficult

00:04:50.080 of those three,

00:04:51.260 but at the end of the day,

00:04:52.960 in 2016,

00:04:54.460 it was the first state to be called

00:04:55.860 for Trump out of the three,

00:04:57.160 and in 2020,

00:04:58.160 it was the closest of them.

00:04:59.840 So if we can start with that,

00:05:01.380 can we look at the 84 and 88 maps?

00:05:04.200 Because when you overlay them,

00:05:06.400 what you have is four decades of history.

00:05:09.220 I'm going to take you through six maps,

00:05:10.880 three images,

00:05:11.740 and you have four decades of history

00:05:13.440 and four decades of lessons

00:05:15.120 that Republicans,

00:05:16.580 especially the establishment

00:05:17.760 that came to dominate the party

00:05:19.340 after Reagan,

00:05:20.120 have not learned.

00:05:21.520 To the left you have on your screen,

00:05:23.120 84,

00:05:23.680 that's Reagan's map.

00:05:25.160 It may look pretty familiar to everybody,

00:05:27.560 especially looking at the northwest

00:05:29.140 of Wisconsin,

00:05:30.700 you will see those three,

00:05:31.940 we call them lumberjack country,

00:05:34.100 and it's Ashland,

00:05:35.380 Bayfield,

00:05:35.900 and Douglas.

00:05:36.880 All right,

00:05:37.220 and these are very important

00:05:38.440 because Republicans typically

00:05:40.100 get creamed up there.

00:05:41.220 Reagan lost them,

00:05:43.120 but he did well.

00:05:43.940 He was in the 40s.

00:05:45.360 This is the voter

00:05:46.760 that people can't understand.

00:05:48.440 If you're a politico,

00:05:49.300 Peter,

00:05:49.540 like we are,

00:05:50.340 you can't understand

00:05:51.140 how could somebody vote

00:05:52.120 for Obama twice,

00:05:53.820 maybe at least once,

00:05:55.100 then vote for Trump,

00:05:56.480 maybe even again vote for Trump

00:05:58.060 or vote for Biden

00:05:59.300 and now be back

00:06:00.480 on the Trump train,

00:06:01.600 but never consider voting

00:06:03.420 for another Republican

00:06:04.460 like Mitt Romney

00:06:05.460 or Dan Kelly.

00:06:06.580 All right,

00:06:06.960 a traditionalist,

00:06:08.020 a traditional conservative

00:06:09.540 or a severely conservative

00:06:11.940 fake technocrat

00:06:13.220 like Mitt Romney.

00:06:14.360 All right,

00:06:14.560 and to the right,

00:06:15.340 you have to...

00:06:15.940 Richard,

00:06:16.260 just a quick question.

00:06:18.340 Those,

00:06:18.820 that area up there,

00:06:21.840 because I know

00:06:22.500 the state pretty well,

00:06:23.580 but what is it

00:06:25.240 that drives

00:06:26.320 the economic vote up there?

00:06:28.620 Is it farming,

00:06:31.040 mining,

00:06:31.640 or there's no cities

00:06:33.100 up there to speak of?

00:06:34.800 There's no big urban population.

00:06:36.840 This is like,

00:06:37.660 I tell people,

00:06:38.500 think about it,

00:06:39.160 if you're looking back in 84,

00:06:41.120 think of the guy

00:06:42.100 who's on like

00:06:42.780 the bounty paper towel thing.

00:06:44.560 I mean,

00:06:44.820 this is like

00:06:45.540 lumberjack country,

00:06:46.980 but it's got

00:06:47.660 ancestral democratic roots

00:06:49.280 because it's the birthplace

00:06:51.520 of progressive labor,

00:06:52.800 Peter,

00:06:53.220 whether it's farming,

00:06:54.600 whether it's industry,

00:06:55.740 whether it's timber,

00:06:56.980 right?

00:06:57.320 So almost akin

00:06:58.820 to this state's version

00:07:00.260 of the iron range.

00:07:01.500 Now,

00:07:01.820 there are liberal pockets,

00:07:03.000 but that's the history

00:07:04.680 of that area.

00:07:05.680 And looking at 1984's map

00:07:08.060 and comparing it to 88,

00:07:09.800 you also see

00:07:11.000 the western part

00:07:11.900 of the state

00:07:12.360 go democratic.

00:07:13.660 It's very important.

00:07:14.880 This is why

00:07:15.320 at the Public Polling Project,

00:07:17.340 Big Data Poll,

00:07:18.060 if people want to go

00:07:18.720 and help us crowdfund

00:07:20.840 and fund it,

00:07:21.360 this is what we do.

00:07:22.380 We don't just look at

00:07:23.260 white versus black

00:07:24.260 versus Hispanic.

00:07:25.320 This is important

00:07:26.060 to look at national origin,

00:07:27.640 ethnicity,

00:07:28.420 because now you're talking

00:07:29.440 about the western part

00:07:30.360 of Wisconsin.

00:07:31.620 You have tons

00:07:32.700 of ethnic Norwegians

00:07:34.120 there in Minnesota.

00:07:35.900 You also have Norwegians

00:07:36.960 and Scandinavians,

00:07:38.260 but these people

00:07:39.580 have been Democrats

00:07:40.920 for years,

00:07:41.980 but they were

00:07:42.880 a Reagan Democrat,

00:07:44.200 right?

00:07:44.680 And then they came around

00:07:45.780 to very much

00:07:47.300 to be Trump,

00:07:48.660 Trumplicans,

00:07:49.660 all right?

00:07:50.380 In the right side,

00:07:51.240 again,

00:07:51.440 I just want to make sure

00:07:52.040 everyone understands

00:07:52.900 that's Dukakis

00:07:53.740 beating Herbert Walker Bush.

00:07:55.580 Keep that 84 map

00:07:57.000 in your mind

00:07:57.880 and let's go

00:07:58.600 to the next image.

00:07:59.420 You're going to see

00:07:59.900 to the left

00:08:00.420 is Trump beating

00:08:01.620 Clinton in 2016.

00:08:03.900 Boom.

00:08:04.420 Look at that.

00:08:05.340 It's almost identical,

00:08:07.560 Peter,

00:08:08.060 with a couple of counties

00:08:09.340 here and there.

00:08:10.600 It's almost identical

00:08:11.520 and to the right

00:08:12.240 you have Mitt Romney

00:08:13.180 getting his butt whooped

00:08:14.360 by Barack Obama

00:08:15.280 and what do you see?

00:08:16.720 You see up there

00:08:17.620 deep,

00:08:18.340 deep victories

00:08:18.980 for Obama

00:08:19.680 in lumberjack country

00:08:20.940 and western Norwegian

00:08:22.400 Wisconsin

00:08:23.060 breaking for Barack Obama

00:08:24.820 and meanwhile

00:08:25.540 not going for Trump.

00:08:27.180 Notice it's light blue

00:08:28.560 in the northwest

00:08:29.400 of Wisconsin.

00:08:30.500 If you want to win

00:08:31.600 Wisconsin as a Republican,

00:08:33.020 you cannot get beaten up there

00:08:34.700 where you're like Mitt Romney

00:08:36.180 in the 30s.

00:08:38.000 Trump,

00:08:38.880 Johnson,

00:08:39.440 which we're going to look at

00:08:40.040 in a second.

00:08:40.380 I'm going to hang here

00:08:41.120 for a second.

00:08:42.100 They get in the 40s,

00:08:43.340 the mid-40s,

00:08:44.520 Peter.

00:08:45.180 It is not a bloodbath.

00:08:47.340 All right?

00:08:48.280 And then they hold on.

00:08:49.500 This is like pure MAGA

00:08:50.760 to me.

00:08:51.360 This is like Reagan Democrat,

00:08:53.340 Trump Democrat,

00:08:54.440 pure MAGA,

00:08:55.540 economic populism.

00:08:57.280 That's what it presents

00:08:58.820 to me as.

00:08:59.740 These folks are the

00:09:01.400 black, brown,

00:09:03.240 blue-collar Americans

00:09:05.040 who are struggling

00:09:06.420 every day.

00:09:07.360 They're aspiring

00:09:08.140 and they don't respond

00:09:11.180 to the Mitch McConnell

00:09:12.260 Republican Party

00:09:13.220 full stop, right?

00:09:14.860 They hate technocrats.

00:09:16.380 They hate corporatists.

00:09:17.600 They hate plutocrats.

00:09:19.160 Frankly,

00:09:19.640 they hate what

00:09:20.060 the Republican Party image

00:09:21.360 is outside of Donald Trump.

00:09:23.480 That's just a fact.

00:09:24.660 All right?

00:09:25.400 If we go to the next one,

00:09:27.060 and by the way,

00:09:28.120 in this map,

00:09:28.860 there we go.

00:09:29.340 Notice Johnson's map.

00:09:30.660 It's almost identical to Trump's.

00:09:31.880 It's literally

00:09:32.380 identical to Trump's.

00:09:34.300 A little bit of different shades

00:09:35.820 because of the margins,

00:09:36.780 but Johnson had the benefit

00:09:38.700 of running with Trump

00:09:39.660 on the ticket in 16.

00:09:41.420 All right?

00:09:42.200 And he had that image.

00:09:43.740 He did not break away

00:09:44.860 from Trump.

00:09:45.400 He did not throw him

00:09:46.240 under the bus

00:09:46.780 like Mark Kirk did.

00:09:47.800 Just to be clear, Richard,

00:09:49.700 is this 2020,

00:09:50.980 the Johnson win?

00:09:52.420 This is 22.

00:09:53.240 Yeah, this is 22.

00:09:54.860 22.

00:09:56.100 Okay.

00:09:57.020 And what you'll notice there

00:09:58.820 is you have counties

00:09:59.800 like Salk,

00:10:01.080 which are basically central,

00:10:03.760 just north of Dane County,

00:10:05.640 a little bit northwest

00:10:06.340 of Dane County,

00:10:07.540 and Polk,

00:10:08.560 Rusk,

00:10:09.180 still sticking with Johnson

00:10:10.500 while they abandon

00:10:11.820 these traditional Republicans

00:10:14.100 to the right.

00:10:15.120 Yeah, who's Kelly?

00:10:15.820 I don't even know

00:10:17.300 who Kelly is,

00:10:18.000 so I've got to assume

00:10:18.720 a lot of people

00:10:19.240 out there don't.

00:10:20.800 Who's Kelly?

00:10:21.220 And by the way,

00:10:22.040 he's been beaten

00:10:22.780 like this before.

00:10:24.320 And this is,

00:10:25.000 you know,

00:10:25.600 this is something

00:10:26.920 that you would think

00:10:28.540 the Republican Party

00:10:29.640 would have prepared for,

00:10:31.300 that he is seen

00:10:32.280 as a tough-on-crime,

00:10:33.880 traditional conservative,

00:10:35.060 which Trump is tough-on-crime too,

00:10:36.760 but he also was

00:10:38.080 for second chances,

00:10:39.240 right?

00:10:39.740 Literally,

00:10:40.420 the second chance.

00:10:41.280 He was also

00:10:42.280 for economic nationalism.

00:10:44.000 He was also

00:10:44.700 against nation-building.

00:10:46.300 He was also

00:10:47.040 not a technocrat.

00:10:48.360 He was also

00:10:49.000 a blue-collar billionaire,

00:10:50.680 right?

00:10:50.940 It's that term,

00:10:52.200 that phrase.

00:10:53.280 Very different.

00:10:54.980 Walker was able

00:10:55.780 to punch very much

00:10:56.980 into the same voters

00:10:58.720 that we're talking about

00:10:59.640 during his first

00:11:00.700 two elections.

00:11:01.700 Definitely third,

00:11:02.340 but sometimes

00:11:03.020 you just appear

00:11:03.680 on the ballot

00:11:04.180 one too many times.

00:11:05.640 But I would argue

00:11:06.500 that Walker

00:11:07.480 was folksy,

00:11:09.320 and he was also

00:11:10.600 appealing to these people

00:11:12.240 who really just want somebody,

00:11:14.040 even if they don't agree

00:11:14.980 with you on everything,

00:11:15.880 Peter,

00:11:16.100 they want to know

00:11:17.040 where you stand,

00:11:19.000 where you're coming from,

00:11:21.540 and that they can

00:11:22.220 basically look in you

00:11:23.360 in the eye

00:11:23.840 and know what you're

00:11:24.680 going to do.

00:11:26.220 Richard,

00:11:27.260 hang on just one second.

00:11:28.400 I want people

00:11:29.240 to be clear here

00:11:30.020 because you're talking

00:11:31.060 about when you say

00:11:31.840 Walker,

00:11:32.380 that's Scott Walker

00:11:33.280 who was the governor

00:11:34.280 and then tried to run

00:11:36.560 against Trump

00:11:37.400 in 2016.

00:11:38.940 Now, Kelly,

00:11:39.680 just to be clear,

00:11:40.600 that's the guy

00:11:41.260 who just got beat?

00:11:42.520 Is that the judge

00:11:43.980 who just got beat?

00:11:45.280 And is that the map

00:11:46.320 from this last election

00:11:47.740 or the one

00:11:48.480 where he got beat before?

00:11:50.220 This is the last one,

00:11:51.840 and I know

00:11:52.540 the colors are different,

00:11:53.720 but just, you know,

00:11:54.480 everyone should assume

00:11:55.820 like the green

00:11:56.460 is the blue

00:11:57.200 and Kelly

00:11:58.660 is the orangey tan.

00:12:00.720 We just didn't get

00:12:01.580 a chance to swap

00:12:02.380 them out yet.

00:12:03.580 This is a way

00:12:04.040 I had to grab one

00:12:04.540 from Wikipedia.

00:12:05.660 But if I had

00:12:06.980 the live one,

00:12:08.180 people can go

00:12:08.620 to People's Pundit daily.

00:12:09.560 It's archived

00:12:10.600 for everybody to see.

00:12:12.160 The only difference

00:12:13.000 in 2020, Peter,

00:12:14.440 is that Door County,

00:12:16.020 which is that

00:12:16.460 little peninsula county.

00:12:18.080 It's a very,

00:12:19.060 it's not a large

00:12:19.920 population county,

00:12:20.840 but it's the peninsula

00:12:21.900 county on the eastern side,

00:12:23.480 which you can see

00:12:24.020 Kelly lost here,

00:12:25.440 went for Biden

00:12:26.620 by very,

00:12:27.640 less than 100 votes,

00:12:28.540 I believe.

00:12:29.020 Very, very small amount.

00:12:30.500 Johnson carried it

00:12:31.520 by maybe 40 votes,

00:12:32.980 something like that.

00:12:34.020 Trump also carried it

00:12:35.260 by a very,

00:12:35.940 I mean,

00:12:36.120 it's a very tight county,

00:12:37.900 but it's a county

00:12:38.980 that's indicative

00:12:39.700 of how some of these,

00:12:41.240 again,

00:12:41.580 these ethnicities matter,

00:12:43.320 and these voters

00:12:44.360 that we're talking about,

00:12:45.620 Johnson really benefited

00:12:47.260 from taking it

00:12:49.200 to big pharma,

00:12:50.460 being anti-interventionalist.

00:12:52.720 I know I've heard

00:12:53.340 some absurd arguments.

00:12:54.640 He is not for,

00:12:55.580 you know,

00:12:56.260 endless funds

00:12:57.360 to Ukraine

00:12:58.020 and others.

00:12:59.160 He's maybe not

00:12:59.920 as MAGA,

00:13:00.520 obviously,

00:13:01.220 as Trump,

00:13:01.580 but he went after Fauci.

00:13:03.780 He has held

00:13:04.340 people's feet

00:13:04.920 to account on Russia.

00:13:06.460 These are skeptics.

00:13:07.580 They are skeptics,

00:13:09.020 but they're also,

00:13:10.120 many of them,

00:13:11.040 low propensity.

00:13:12.100 Sure.

00:13:12.360 So Trump,

00:13:13.080 it's a bit of a two-punch.

00:13:14.540 He drives out these voters

00:13:15.800 that will just not vote

00:13:17.160 for Republicans.

00:13:17.960 They'll stay home

00:13:18.680 if they don't like

00:13:19.840 the Democrat,

00:13:20.700 but he also wins

00:13:21.980 some of those voters

00:13:22.780 who will vote

00:13:23.940 for the Democrat.

00:13:24.320 So let me try it.

00:13:26.120 So what I'm hearing,

00:13:27.840 Richard,

00:13:28.440 is that

00:13:29.320 all was not lost

00:13:30.720 in Wisconsin

00:13:31.500 that the,

00:13:33.180 but the only way

00:13:34.040 to win

00:13:34.620 is the MAGA

00:13:37.120 populist

00:13:39.100 economic nationalist

00:13:40.400 message.

00:13:42.380 Now,

00:13:42.500 what about the spin

00:13:43.880 that the left-wing media

00:13:47.060 is putting out

00:13:47.780 that this judge

00:13:49.340 lost,

00:13:51.160 the Republican lost

00:13:52.420 because,

00:13:54.340 you know,

00:13:54.840 the election deniers

00:13:56.020 are losing

00:13:57.400 and the anti-abortion

00:13:58.700 folks are losing.

00:14:00.720 How much truth

00:14:03.080 is in that?

00:14:04.040 How much

00:14:04.300 one must worry

00:14:07.100 about that

00:14:07.660 in the 2024 race,

00:14:09.180 particularly in Wisconsin?

00:14:10.940 You know,

00:14:11.280 that's ludicrous.

00:14:12.820 Kelly was not

00:14:13.620 a MAGA guy at all.

00:14:14.840 He told the Trump campaign

00:14:16.020 to stay away.

00:14:16.880 There were headlines

00:14:17.640 locally and nationally

00:14:19.180 saying Kelly doesn't want

00:14:20.600 Trump anywhere near Wisconsin.

00:14:22.120 Oh, wow.

00:14:22.420 You think those voters

00:14:23.300 don't see that?

00:14:23.940 They buried the lead there,

00:14:24.560 Richard.

00:14:25.240 Of course they buried

00:14:26.420 the lead.

00:14:27.260 And I will give you this.

00:14:28.960 The abortion voter

00:14:30.240 was more motivated

00:14:31.760 to come out

00:14:32.480 and vote for their person.

00:14:34.240 Kelly was arguing

00:14:35.380 about,

00:14:35.900 I'm tough on crime.

00:14:37.140 I mean,

00:14:37.620 if you're trying

00:14:38.200 to juice rural turnout,

00:14:39.680 nobody in rural America

00:14:40.820 cares about that.

00:14:41.800 That's,

00:14:42.140 that's a,

00:14:42.940 that's appealing

00:14:44.100 if you're,

00:14:44.840 you know,

00:14:45.700 if you're Donald Trump,

00:14:46.660 for instance,

00:14:47.080 and you're making this,

00:14:47.900 I'm the law and order candidate.

00:14:49.300 That's how you're getting

00:14:50.600 so much more

00:14:51.820 in urban areas

00:14:52.800 than other Republicans

00:14:53.720 are,

00:14:54.140 by the way.

00:14:54.660 Trump outperformed

00:14:55.520 Kelly and Dane.

00:14:56.460 He outperformed

00:14:57.080 him in Milwaukee.

00:14:58.380 Uh,

00:14:58.860 he definitely outperformed

00:15:00.160 him in Green Bay,

00:15:01.100 Brown County.

00:15:02.040 I mean,

00:15:02.480 so he gets this

00:15:03.800 other side of the vote.

00:15:04.980 He's not juicing

00:15:05.920 rural turnout

00:15:06.740 by being a traditional

00:15:08.460 conservative.

00:15:09.940 These,

00:15:10.200 and by the way,

00:15:11.040 we had this election

00:15:12.260 in 19

00:15:13.100 and we had the midterms

00:15:15.100 in 18

00:15:15.800 before Wisconsin

00:15:17.240 came down

00:15:18.060 to a hit

00:15:19.800 in 2020.

00:15:21.440 Republicans got

00:15:22.420 stomped

00:15:23.220 in 18

00:15:23.860 and 19.

00:15:24.440 So once again,

00:15:25.580 it's Trump.

00:15:26.660 It's a Trumpian message.

00:15:28.460 It's MAGA.

00:15:29.380 All right,

00:15:30.260 let's,

00:15:30.740 let's,

00:15:31.160 let's,

00:15:31.640 let's,

00:15:32.000 let's,

00:15:32.120 I want to maximize

00:15:33.140 your value here,

00:15:36.160 Richard.

00:15:36.800 Let's,

00:15:37.180 let's,

00:15:37.440 let's,

00:15:38.020 let's,

00:15:38.060 um,

00:15:38.800 pivot now

00:15:39.540 to the,

00:15:40.300 to the bigger question

00:15:41.340 above this,

00:15:42.120 right?

00:15:42.860 Well,

00:15:43.060 tell me

00:15:44.160 as you see it

00:15:45.480 where the presidential

00:15:47.420 election

00:15:47.980 is going to be

00:15:49.120 won or lost.

00:15:50.540 What are the new

00:15:51.640 battlegrounds?

00:15:52.720 Is,

00:15:53.200 is it,

00:15:53.680 is it Georgia

00:15:55.000 and Arizona

00:15:55.940 plus what?

00:15:57.600 I mean,

00:15:57.920 what,

00:15:58.200 what do we,

00:15:59.400 what do we have

00:16:00.020 to worry the most

00:16:00.900 about?

00:16:02.180 You know,

00:16:02.760 they think there's

00:16:03.320 been some give

00:16:04.000 and take

00:16:04.480 and to answer

00:16:05.220 that question,

00:16:05.880 I really do think

00:16:06.820 it depends on

00:16:07.540 who the nominee

00:16:08.700 is going to be.

00:16:09.700 So I do think

00:16:11.260 that some nominees,

00:16:12.920 um,

00:16:13.700 you know,

00:16:14.180 that the rust belt's

00:16:15.460 out off the table.

00:16:16.760 It's off the table.

00:16:17.840 If there's some

00:16:18.840 of these potential

00:16:19.560 hopefuls end up

00:16:20.720 being the Republican

00:16:21.480 nominee,

00:16:22.120 I,

00:16:22.840 if 40 years worth

00:16:24.360 of election results

00:16:25.300 in Wisconsin,

00:16:26.200 in Pennsylvania,

00:16:27.240 in Michigan,

00:16:28.220 can't convince

00:16:29.160 these people,

00:16:29.820 then I don't know

00:16:30.900 what else to tell

00:16:31.720 them.

00:16:31.960 But I am saying

00:16:32.920 now definitively,

00:16:34.260 there is no other

00:16:36.140 person on the board

00:16:37.200 outside of the

00:16:38.080 former president

00:16:38.800 who is going

00:16:39.740 to carry

00:16:40.520 Macomb County,

00:16:41.820 Michigan.

00:16:42.360 That's not going

00:16:43.160 to happen.

00:16:44.100 You're going

00:16:44.340 to fall short

00:16:45.100 and you know

00:16:45.620 you're going

00:16:45.920 to lose Salk.

00:16:46.920 You're going

00:16:47.300 to get crushed

00:16:47.920 in Douglas,

00:16:49.120 in Ashland.

00:16:50.140 You'll be in

00:16:50.620 the 30s like

00:16:51.420 Mitt Romney.

00:16:52.400 You'll get white.

00:16:53.620 And all of the

00:16:54.180 talk about abortion

00:16:55.060 in Waukesha,

00:16:55.900 Trump carried

00:16:56.420 Waukesha by 21

00:16:57.560 points.

00:16:58.440 Kelly barely

00:16:59.100 carried it the

00:16:59.760 other night.

00:17:00.400 Or, you know,

00:17:00.800 mid-teens.

00:17:02.440 So, again,

00:17:03.020 so,

00:17:04.000 so let's,

00:17:04.900 let's,

00:17:05.360 let me summarize

00:17:06.740 here.

00:17:07.740 Okay,

00:17:08.000 what I'm hearing,

00:17:08.980 Richard,

00:17:09.880 is that the only

00:17:11.220 candidate that can

00:17:13.180 take the blue

00:17:13.940 wall states,

00:17:15.060 Wisconsin,

00:17:15.640 Michigan,

00:17:15.960 and Pennsylvania,

00:17:17.000 would be

00:17:17.600 Trump.

00:17:18.520 Now,

00:17:19.580 what are the

00:17:20.440 other states?

00:17:21.780 How much in

00:17:23.360 jeopardy are we

00:17:24.500 in Georgia

00:17:25.440 and Arizona?

00:17:26.880 Because those

00:17:27.640 two states

00:17:28.320 stink to high

00:17:28.980 heaven to me.

00:17:29.680 I'm just,

00:17:30.500 I'm scared to

00:17:31.940 death of those.

00:17:33.420 What unlocks

00:17:34.940 those states?

00:17:35.560 And is there

00:17:36.040 any other

00:17:36.600 states that

00:17:37.840 where really

00:17:38.700 the battleground

00:17:39.400 is going to

00:17:39.740 be?

00:17:41.080 And this is

00:17:41.460 another,

00:17:42.280 Arizona and

00:17:43.300 Georgia,

00:17:43.900 you know,

00:17:44.180 I just want to

00:17:44.540 focus on for a

00:17:45.360 second,

00:17:45.720 will be competitive

00:17:46.480 no matter who

00:17:47.180 the nominee

00:17:47.620 is.

00:17:48.440 Why?

00:17:48.860 What happened?

00:17:50.020 You know,

00:17:50.600 unlike North

00:17:51.200 Carolina,

00:17:51.980 for instance,

00:17:52.520 Peter,

00:17:52.780 that's why

00:17:53.060 Republicans have

00:17:53.740 done a better

00:17:54.460 job,

00:17:54.960 MAGA or not,

00:17:56.140 have done a

00:17:56.640 better job in

00:17:57.220 that state

00:17:57.680 because it's

00:17:58.980 only 42,

00:18:00.060 44 percent

00:18:01.100 urban vote.

00:18:02.540 Years of

00:18:03.300 rhino Republican

00:18:04.640 gubernatorial

00:18:05.740 policy had

00:18:07.020 turned,

00:18:07.600 you know,

00:18:08.340 the economies

00:18:09.440 of Arizona

00:18:10.020 and Georgia

00:18:10.640 into professional

00:18:11.840 class economies.

00:18:12.780 So they brought

00:18:14.160 in all of these

00:18:15.180 educated whites

00:18:16.260 into urban areas

00:18:17.460 and once that

00:18:18.280 urban vote share

00:18:19.340 became 60 percent

00:18:20.920 or more,

00:18:22.020 it became difficult.

00:18:23.380 I showed a graph

00:18:24.200 in Arizona the

00:18:25.100 other day.

00:18:25.740 If you look at

00:18:26.340 going back

00:18:27.220 beyond Trump,

00:18:28.260 you go back

00:18:28.860 more than 14

00:18:30.640 years and look

00:18:31.960 at the different

00:18:32.540 presidential and

00:18:33.560 midterm cycles,

00:18:34.640 you can see that

00:18:35.720 the Republican

00:18:36.360 share of the

00:18:37.060 vote in urban

00:18:38.440 and suburban

00:18:39.600 Arizona has

00:18:40.460 been on the

00:18:41.100 decline,

00:18:41.960 what ironically

00:18:42.800 it ticked up

00:18:43.740 in 2020

00:18:44.380 with Trump

00:18:45.620 at the top

00:18:46.060 of the ticket.

00:18:46.740 So that's

00:18:47.400 irony for you.

00:18:49.420 But they are

00:18:50.820 going to be

00:18:51.320 competitive.

00:18:52.180 You just had

00:18:52.660 Katie Hobbs

00:18:53.280 veto a signature

00:18:54.560 verification reform

00:18:55.760 bill,

00:18:56.200 which was

00:18:56.660 bipartisan in

00:18:57.960 the House

00:18:58.460 in Arizona.

00:19:00.360 She did that

00:19:01.540 for a reason,

00:19:02.480 obviously,

00:19:03.140 but I will

00:19:03.500 say this.

00:19:04.560 They are not,

00:19:06.780 I didn't pull

00:19:07.620 any other

00:19:08.120 potential Republican

00:19:08.980 nominee,

00:19:09.760 but Georgia,

00:19:10.740 for instance,

00:19:11.400 we had in our

00:19:12.620 last poll in

00:19:13.280 Georgia,

00:19:13.640 it wasn't a

00:19:14.060 final poll,

00:19:14.820 but our last

00:19:15.280 poll,

00:19:15.920 we did have

00:19:16.320 Walker up by

00:19:17.140 one.

00:19:17.580 We didn't

00:19:17.900 pull the

00:19:18.340 second round

00:19:20.180 and it ended

00:19:21.200 up being,

00:19:21.700 I believe,

00:19:22.140 Warnock almost

00:19:22.900 by one.

00:19:23.480 So very close

00:19:24.200 our polling there

00:19:24.920 and yet still

00:19:26.120 Trump was up

00:19:26.780 11.

00:19:27.820 In Rasmussen,

00:19:28.760 they had him

00:19:29.220 up by 10 or

00:19:30.500 11.

00:19:30.980 Emerson,

00:19:31.420 the same thing.

00:19:32.520 So what I'm

00:19:32.920 saying is

00:19:33.600 the Republican

00:19:34.480 candidates in

00:19:35.580 the midterm

00:19:36.140 polling were

00:19:37.380 trailing,

00:19:38.540 they were

00:19:38.780 underperforming

00:19:39.980 Trump in all

00:19:41.220 of these states.

00:19:42.220 I didn't pull

00:19:42.760 any other

00:19:43.180 nominee.

00:19:44.060 I'm just saying

00:19:44.620 that when it

00:19:45.000 comes to a

00:19:45.460 presidential cycle,

00:19:46.640 you're going to

00:19:47.360 be looking at

00:19:47.940 another 800,000

00:19:49.260 to 1.2 million

00:19:50.480 votes.

00:19:51.400 So it's a

00:19:52.240 different ballgame

00:19:52.940 than what we saw

00:19:53.600 in 2022.

00:19:54.880 Nevada,

00:19:55.320 if we compare

00:19:56.520 that,

00:19:57.360 we nailed

00:19:58.680 Joe Lombardo's

00:19:59.580 victory.

00:20:00.100 Laxalt,

00:20:00.660 we had him up

00:20:01.120 by one.

00:20:01.800 So again,

00:20:02.520 he lost by a

00:20:03.440 half a point,

00:20:04.160 something like

00:20:04.620 that.

00:20:05.100 Very close.

00:20:06.060 Yet we still

00:20:06.640 had Trump

00:20:07.180 pretty much

00:20:07.700 running away

00:20:08.160 with the state

00:20:08.660 of Nevada,

00:20:09.100 which people

00:20:10.160 who have

00:20:10.420 followed me

00:20:10.820 a long time

00:20:11.460 know that I

00:20:12.380 have repeatedly

00:20:13.060 said that I

00:20:14.240 don't believe

00:20:14.840 it's that much

00:20:15.460 of a competitive

00:20:16.000 state.

00:20:16.540 It's close,

00:20:17.200 but that Republicans

00:20:18.160 are always

00:20:18.800 overrepresented in

00:20:19.840 the polls and

00:20:20.360 shouldn't get

00:20:20.760 their hopes up.

00:20:21.700 But this time

00:20:22.340 it was different.

00:20:23.440 We knew how

00:20:24.340 Washoe County

00:20:25.060 was going to

00:20:25.520 vote for Lombardo.

00:20:26.780 We knew that

00:20:27.380 he would only

00:20:27.840 trail in Clark

00:20:28.540 County by about

00:20:29.260 four or five

00:20:29.980 points.

00:20:30.780 Well,

00:20:31.080 if we were

00:20:31.580 right about

00:20:32.100 that and

00:20:33.080 Clark County

00:20:33.740 is telling us

00:20:34.400 it will swing

00:20:35.080 to Donald Trump

00:20:36.200 and he could

00:20:36.640 carry it by

00:20:37.340 about four

00:20:37.860 points and

00:20:38.720 he's ahead in

00:20:39.360 Washoe by

00:20:40.000 five,

00:20:40.820 six was the

00:20:42.040 other poll we

00:20:43.080 had done,

00:20:43.760 then obviously

00:20:44.700 if we were

00:20:45.360 right about

00:20:46.060 those races,

00:20:46.920 we were right

00:20:47.420 about the state

00:20:48.280 of the presidential

00:20:49.960 race.

00:20:50.580 So I actually

00:20:51.000 do think that

00:20:52.120 that state

00:20:52.600 would be in

00:20:53.220 play as well.

00:20:53.980 However,

00:20:54.400 again,

00:20:55.080 it matters

00:20:55.840 who the

00:20:56.620 party's

00:20:57.100 nominee is.

00:20:58.420 Okay,

00:20:58.760 Richard,

00:20:59.380 let me,

00:21:00.600 Virginia is

00:21:01.420 not a little

00:21:01.980 jeopardy here.

00:21:03.100 I got a

00:21:03.820 question for

00:21:04.580 you.

00:21:05.640 Looking into

00:21:06.360 your crystal

00:21:06.960 ball,

00:21:08.620 give me the

00:21:09.520 state most

00:21:11.020 likely to be

00:21:12.340 the surprise

00:21:13.180 state to go

00:21:14.840 for a Republican

00:21:15.940 in 2024 that

00:21:17.340 isn't now

00:21:17.960 maybe Minnesota

00:21:19.720 or something

00:21:20.700 and what

00:21:21.520 would be the

00:21:22.320 surprise state

00:21:23.280 that the

00:21:24.340 Democrats might

00:21:25.260 be able to

00:21:25.800 peel off the

00:21:26.440 deck from the

00:21:26.920 Republicans?

00:21:28.840 Yeah,

00:21:29.080 so you really

00:21:30.020 just said it

00:21:30.660 for me.

00:21:31.340 It's always

00:21:31.920 been,

00:21:32.300 I mean,

00:21:32.440 Nevada would

00:21:32.980 not be that

00:21:33.580 much of a

00:21:33.980 surprise to

00:21:34.600 people.

00:21:35.020 New Hampshire

00:21:35.640 would not be.

00:21:36.560 Minnesota would

00:21:37.320 be.

00:21:37.760 And in

00:21:38.340 2016,

00:21:39.560 we nailed

00:21:41.240 that.

00:21:41.800 We thought

00:21:42.360 Hillary would

00:21:42.880 take it.

00:21:43.320 We had a

00:21:43.580 Hillary 2.2.

00:21:45.000 She won it

00:21:45.720 by about 2.3,

00:21:47.260 if I remember,

00:21:47.840 or 2.1.

00:21:48.580 So we were

00:21:49.060 very close.

00:21:50.100 You said it

00:21:50.580 before,

00:21:51.020 Peter,

00:21:51.620 the Trump

00:21:52.000 campaign was

00:21:52.880 not handled

00:21:53.760 well in the

00:21:54.780 final stretch

00:21:56.420 there,

00:21:57.100 particularly once

00:21:58.000 COVID hit.

00:21:59.040 They should

00:21:59.580 have made a

00:22:00.320 better showing

00:22:01.200 in Minnesota.

00:22:02.640 That would

00:22:03.400 be one that I

00:22:04.240 do think.

00:22:04.740 It's always

00:22:05.020 hard with the

00:22:05.600 Twin Cities,

00:22:06.320 but there

00:22:07.520 was a couple

00:22:08.540 of key questions

00:22:09.340 we asked,

00:22:10.340 and we believe

00:22:11.000 that's why

00:22:11.500 Trump lost.

00:22:12.620 The media had

00:22:13.200 a lot to do

00:22:13.760 with it,

00:22:14.080 but he also,

00:22:14.760 campaigning

00:22:15.180 matters.

00:22:15.700 How you message

00:22:16.380 matters.

00:22:16.840 When we asked

00:22:17.720 the people

00:22:18.080 of Minnesota

00:22:18.560 who they

00:22:19.140 believed was

00:22:20.120 most likely

00:22:20.780 to start

00:22:21.360 a new

00:22:21.840 conflict,

00:22:22.480 and they

00:22:22.740 are anti-intervention

00:22:23.980 in that state,

00:22:25.300 they told us

00:22:26.240 Trump.

00:22:26.960 So all of the

00:22:27.720 media is pounding

00:22:28.560 about,

00:22:29.320 you know,

00:22:29.600 Trump said,

00:22:30.220 he's crazy,

00:22:31.360 he's going to

00:22:31.640 start World War

00:22:32.200 III.

00:22:32.500 Yeah,

00:22:32.720 that's

00:22:32.900 counterfactual.

00:22:34.260 Let me say

00:22:34.620 one thing about

00:22:35.380 Minnesota,

00:22:36.220 it really kind

00:22:37.340 of broke my

00:22:37.860 heart that

00:22:38.940 the Kushner

00:22:40.100 crowd running

00:22:40.880 the campaign

00:22:41.620 didn't go

00:22:42.660 more for

00:22:43.380 Minnesota,

00:22:43.860 because that

00:22:45.420 Iron Range,

00:22:46.440 which you

00:22:46.880 referenced

00:22:47.380 earlier,

00:22:48.280 we spent a

00:22:48.940 great amount

00:22:50.400 of time

00:22:51.060 romanced in

00:22:53.180 the Iron

00:22:53.600 Range,

00:22:54.660 not for

00:22:55.440 political reasons,

00:22:56.420 but for

00:22:56.700 economic reasons.

00:22:57.880 I mean,

00:22:58.080 we ran on

00:22:59.560 things like

00:23:00.300 steel tariffs,

00:23:01.260 the Iron

00:23:01.640 Range is the

00:23:02.640 place where

00:23:03.540 it all

00:23:04.160 happens,

00:23:05.420 and it is

00:23:06.640 exactly like

00:23:07.560 that place,

00:23:08.280 the lumberjack

00:23:08.920 country in

00:23:09.460 Wisconsin.

00:23:10.600 They're progressive

00:23:11.980 Democrats,

00:23:12.860 historically,

00:23:14.800 but they're

00:23:16.280 populous,

00:23:17.900 and I think

00:23:18.880 we could have

00:23:19.360 really boosted

00:23:20.320 the vote up

00:23:21.880 there if we

00:23:22.860 had had an

00:23:24.640 inclination,

00:23:25.900 but what's

00:23:26.880 the other

00:23:27.260 part?

00:23:27.720 The Democrats,

00:23:28.740 what would you

00:23:29.400 fear that they

00:23:31.120 could surprise

00:23:32.020 pick off,

00:23:33.620 and we'll

00:23:34.000 finish up with

00:23:34.640 that?

00:23:36.020 You know,

00:23:36.300 again,

00:23:37.280 and I know

00:23:38.060 this is going

00:23:38.540 to be blowing

00:23:39.520 people's heads

00:23:40.320 off because they

00:23:41.240 think that it's

00:23:41.880 so secure

00:23:42.440 after 2020

00:23:43.360 and 2022,

00:23:44.820 but I really

00:23:45.640 do believe,

00:23:46.680 you know,

00:23:47.160 like a Mike

00:23:48.760 Pompeo kind

00:23:49.860 of candidate,

00:23:50.480 a Mike Pence

00:23:51.060 kind of candidate

00:23:51.660 would lose the

00:23:52.660 state of Florida.

00:23:53.720 I do think

00:23:54.240 they would.

00:23:54.820 Yeah,

00:23:54.980 North Carolina

00:23:55.860 is getting,

00:23:57.180 yeah,

00:23:57.380 I do.

00:23:58.180 I mean,

00:23:58.400 Peter,

00:23:58.820 I spent 15

00:24:00.380 years there,

00:24:01.100 Peter.

00:24:01.500 I know where

00:24:02.000 every vote in

00:24:02.840 that state

00:24:03.220 comes from.

00:24:03.820 There are a lot

00:24:04.520 of transplants

00:24:05.160 from the northeast.

00:24:06.520 They like the

00:24:07.100 new Republican

00:24:08.060 Party,

00:24:08.540 but they do

00:24:09.140 not like the

00:24:09.800 Bush Republican

00:24:10.900 point.

00:24:11.520 You go back

00:24:12.120 to that,

00:24:12.660 it's over,

00:24:13.380 you squandered

00:24:13.960 all the gains.

00:24:14.960 I will tell you

00:24:15.620 again,

00:24:16.160 you know,

00:24:16.800 they also think

00:24:17.640 Iowa and

00:24:18.460 Ohio are,

00:24:19.780 you know,

00:24:20.160 solidly Republican.

00:24:21.520 Iowa will slip

00:24:22.400 away from you

00:24:23.240 in a second

00:24:24.240 if you elect

00:24:25.060 a tradition,

00:24:25.580 if you nominate

00:24:26.380 a traditionalist,

00:24:27.680 a traditionalist,

00:24:28.920 you know,

00:24:29.800 establishment Republican,

00:24:30.860 but also the other

00:24:31.760 one,

00:24:32.400 and maybe this

00:24:32.860 wouldn't be that

00:24:33.380 much of a surprise

00:24:34.100 to people,

00:24:34.580 but they better

00:24:35.260 keep their eye

00:24:35.840 on it,

00:24:36.280 is North Carolina

00:24:37.060 because Governor

00:24:38.180 Cooper,

00:24:39.000 yeah,

00:24:39.980 he's been playing

00:24:40.620 That one was

00:24:40.900 worrisome in

00:24:41.900 2020.

00:24:43.400 I mean,

00:24:43.660 I spent a lot

00:24:46.060 of time

00:24:46.640 focusing on

00:24:48.620 that particular

00:24:49.680 state,

00:24:50.300 and I was

00:24:51.040 pleasantly surprised

00:24:52.200 that we did

00:24:53.300 so well,

00:24:53.900 so people should

00:24:54.620 be careful

00:24:55.720 about that one

00:24:57.040 as well.

00:24:57.500 Don't take it

00:24:58.000 for granted,

00:24:59.020 because Cooper

00:25:00.120 understands the

00:25:01.700 mistakes that

00:25:02.420 prior Republican

00:25:03.300 governors have

00:25:04.000 made,

00:25:04.400 and he's

00:25:05.080 inviting Apple

00:25:06.020 and others

00:25:06.700 like Apple,

00:25:07.320 these woke

00:25:07.720 corporations

00:25:08.260 into Wake

00:25:08.880 County,

00:25:09.740 and they need,

00:25:10.660 in order to

00:25:11.180 staff these

00:25:11.860 companies,

00:25:12.680 they need to

00:25:13.380 basically,

00:25:14.720 they need labor

00:25:15.560 for their

00:25:16.040 professional class

00:25:17.100 economies,

00:25:17.940 and when you

00:25:18.500 do that,

00:25:19.500 boost the share

00:25:20.420 of the vote

00:25:21.000 in these urban

00:25:21.940 centers over time.

00:25:23.120 Look,

00:25:23.380 Georgia,

00:25:24.200 Atlanta has its

00:25:25.020 own little mini

00:25:25.720 Tinseltown now,

00:25:26.980 folks.

00:25:27.700 I mean,

00:25:28.240 you know,

00:25:28.980 just watch

00:25:29.580 Showtime original

00:25:30.800 series,

00:25:31.580 or anything on

00:25:32.380 Vice,

00:25:32.840 and you'll see

00:25:33.360 at the end

00:25:33.800 of the show.

00:25:34.920 That wasn't

00:25:35.520 filmed in

00:25:36.040 Hollywood,

00:25:36.520 that was

00:25:36.800 filmed in

00:25:37.200 Atlanta,

00:25:37.820 Georgia.

00:25:38.640 So they

00:25:39.040 know that

00:25:39.480 it takes

00:25:40.100 time for

00:25:40.800 these things,

00:25:41.300 but economics

00:25:42.380 is politics.

00:25:43.780 So when

00:25:44.080 Trump goes,

00:25:44.980 I'm going

00:25:45.260 to boost

00:25:45.600 Generac in

00:25:46.420 North Carolina,

00:25:47.460 you know,

00:25:47.760 that's like a

00:25:49.020 nightmare for

00:25:49.740 Democrats,

00:25:50.400 because of

00:25:50.880 course that

00:25:51.360 brings goods

00:25:52.440 producing services,

00:25:53.600 that brings

00:25:53.880 industry,

00:25:54.580 it doesn't

00:25:54.800 bring professional

00:25:55.740 class.

00:25:57.040 So North

00:25:57.420 Carolina,

00:25:58.060 I think that

00:25:58.440 Republicans are

00:25:59.060 too secure

00:25:59.540 with.

00:25:59.760 Richard,

00:25:59.860 we got,

00:26:01.220 I'm going to

00:26:01.760 give you 60

00:26:02.660 seconds to

00:26:03.640 hawk your

00:26:04.740 wares.

00:26:05.240 I want

00:26:05.460 everybody to

00:26:05.980 know how

00:26:06.920 they can

00:26:07.300 support what

00:26:08.020 you do,

00:26:08.500 because I'm

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00:26:09.280 this guy is

00:26:10.300 the best in

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00:26:18.960 public polling

00:26:19.460 project,

00:26:19.980 they can learn

00:26:20.400 all about it.

00:26:21.740 You know,

00:26:21.980 we'd love to

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00:26:34.420 you.

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00:26:42.620 Peter,

00:26:43.220 you know,

00:26:43.480 we have

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00:26:44.220 we have

00:26:44.520 Rumble.

00:26:45.000 I could be

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00:26:46.180 YouTube tomorrow

00:26:46.920 talking like

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00:26:48.240 So go to

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00:26:48.780 All right,

00:26:48.940 my brother,

00:26:49.620 we got the

00:26:50.200 music pushing

00:26:51.280 us out.

00:26:51.820 Next time

00:26:52.360 you're on

00:26:52.760 with me,

00:26:53.440 I'm going

00:26:53.720 to make you

00:26:54.140 play that

00:26:54.600 Gibson guitar,

00:26:55.500 baby.

00:26:56.140 You can

00:26:56.440 perform and

00:26:57.260 do a song.

00:26:59.180 Okay,

00:26:59.640 that's Richard

00:27:00.220 when we

00:27:01.840 come back,

00:27:03.100 I'm going

00:27:03.380 to come

00:27:03.660 back and

00:27:04.180 we're going

00:27:04.440 to do the

00:27:04.820 best 20

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00:32:27.000 54 countries

00:32:29.280 in Africa.

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00:32:32.860 over time,

00:32:33.660 they've used

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00:32:34.460 called debt

00:32:35.060 diplomacy,

00:32:36.320 where they go

00:32:37.240 in with a

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00:32:40.060 of money,

00:32:41.020 build a lot

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00:32:42.320 in exchange

00:32:42.820 for two

00:32:43.200 things.

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00:32:44.620 access to

00:32:46.100 the markets

00:32:46.700 of Africa.

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00:32:53.800 local

00:32:54.100 merchants

00:32:54.560 out of

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00:32:56.340 merchant

00:32:56.640 sector of

00:32:57.720 African

00:32:58.140 countries.

00:32:59.360 And then

00:32:59.780 what they

00:33:00.880 do with

00:33:02.420 the loans

00:33:03.280 they give

00:33:04.000 to these

00:33:05.220 corrupt

00:33:05.640 dictators,

00:33:06.360 is get

00:33:08.860 these

00:33:09.260 countries

00:33:09.640 in debt

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00:33:10.680 they

00:33:10.920 encumber

00:33:11.460 their

00:33:12.100 resources.

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00:33:13.740 it goes.

00:33:14.340 And so

00:33:14.540 Vice

00:33:14.840 President

00:33:15.260 Kamala

00:33:15.820 Harris

00:33:16.160 went there

00:33:16.620 last week

00:33:17.220 to try

00:33:17.960 to romance

00:33:18.680 them.

00:33:19.080 And,

00:33:19.240 you know,

00:33:19.380 the top

00:33:19.800 line there,

00:33:21.200 Communist

00:33:21.520 China is

00:33:22.600 providing

00:33:23.140 now all

00:33:24.400 of the

00:33:24.700 infrastructure

00:33:25.360 to Africa

00:33:26.620 through Belt

00:33:27.280 and Road.

00:33:27.820 And meanwhile,

00:33:28.400 we're throwing

00:33:28.840 a bunch

00:33:29.180 of money

00:33:29.600 trying to

00:33:30.720 feed them,

00:33:31.660 give them

00:33:31.940 some medicine

00:33:32.620 and fight

00:33:33.320 terrorism.

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00:33:34.540 just not

00:33:35.660 resonating

00:33:36.320 with the

00:33:36.660 people.

00:33:37.580 What I

00:33:37.760 want to

00:33:37.960 do now

00:33:38.400 is bring

00:33:39.040 on Alex

00:33:40.240 Gray.

00:33:41.720 I have

00:33:42.220 called him

00:33:42.860 in my

00:33:44.180 in Trump

00:33:45.080 time book

00:33:45.560 the Mozart

00:33:46.140 of foreign

00:33:46.820 policy.

00:33:47.380 He's a

00:33:47.900 young man,

00:33:49.080 31 years

00:33:49.800 old at

00:33:50.260 this point.

00:33:51.400 He was

00:33:52.340 my top

00:33:53.040 aide in

00:33:53.720 the White

00:33:54.120 House.

00:33:55.580 He and

00:33:55.860 I were

00:33:56.220 on the

00:33:56.600 Trump

00:33:56.840 campaign

00:33:57.320 in 2016

00:33:58.180 and published

00:33:59.060 a couple

00:33:59.800 of really

00:34:01.260 good articles

00:34:02.060 about China

00:34:03.020 as part

00:34:04.440 of that

00:34:04.740 campaign.

00:34:06.620 And he

00:34:07.980 then went

00:34:09.120 to,

00:34:09.820 he kind

00:34:10.620 of stepped

00:34:11.120 down.

00:34:11.600 I like

00:34:11.740 the joke

00:34:12.120 he stepped

00:34:12.740 down.

00:34:13.160 He went

00:34:13.380 to be

00:34:13.620 the chief

00:34:13.980 of staff

00:34:14.520 to National

00:34:15.340 Security Advisor

00:34:16.180 Robert O'Brien

00:34:17.060 in the White

00:34:17.600 House.

00:34:17.860 So Alex,

00:34:18.740 let's bring

00:34:19.440 you into

00:34:19.900 the conversation

00:34:21.180 right now.

00:34:22.460 I want

00:34:22.840 to ask

00:34:23.220 you just

00:34:23.780 head up,

00:34:25.260 did Kamala

00:34:26.520 Harris help

00:34:27.320 or hurt

00:34:27.820 the United

00:34:28.240 States

00:34:28.680 with her

00:34:29.080 trip?

00:34:29.840 What should

00:34:30.360 she have

00:34:30.760 done?

00:34:31.060 And then

00:34:31.300 let's talk

00:34:31.880 more broadly

00:34:32.580 about

00:34:34.020 China

00:34:34.960 going

00:34:35.260 around

00:34:35.580 the

00:34:36.520 various

00:34:37.040 hotspots,

00:34:37.860 Taiwan,

00:34:38.740 and then

00:34:39.300 where you

00:34:39.780 were at

00:34:40.180 in the

00:34:40.400 South

00:34:40.620 Pacific

00:34:41.120 boots

00:34:41.720 on the

00:34:42.020 ground.

00:34:42.380 So sir,

00:34:43.140 let's start

00:34:43.660 with Kamala

00:34:44.100 Harris.

00:34:46.220 Thanks for

00:34:46.800 having me,

00:34:47.140 Peter.

00:34:47.480 It's great

00:34:47.800 to be back

00:34:48.340 on the

00:34:48.580 war room.

00:34:50.160 Look,

00:34:50.640 Kamala

00:34:50.960 can go

00:34:51.520 and visit

00:34:51.900 as many

00:34:52.300 African

00:34:52.680 countries

00:34:53.120 as she

00:34:53.480 wants.

00:34:54.220 It

00:34:54.440 doesn't

00:34:54.760 make

00:34:54.940 any

00:34:55.280 difference

00:34:55.860 as far

00:34:56.360 as the

00:34:56.660 United

00:34:56.920 States

00:34:57.300 is concerned

00:34:58.020 and our

00:34:58.680 ability to

00:34:59.660 manage the

00:35:00.940 China

00:35:01.160 competition.

00:35:02.500 She can

00:35:03.320 go and

00:35:03.980 strike deals,

00:35:05.760 talk about

00:35:06.160 giving aid

00:35:06.760 to African

00:35:07.300 countries.

00:35:08.300 The problem

00:35:08.760 is what

00:35:09.800 we're really

00:35:10.240 concerned

00:35:10.680 about in

00:35:11.380 most of

00:35:11.740 Africa is

00:35:12.880 competing

00:35:13.460 with China

00:35:14.000 for key

00:35:14.820 mineral

00:35:15.760 resources,

00:35:17.080 key natural

00:35:17.780 resources,

00:35:18.820 rare earths,

00:35:19.480 critical

00:35:19.740 minerals.

00:35:20.720 The real

00:35:21.320 problem we

00:35:21.940 have is

00:35:22.960 because of

00:35:23.600 the environmental

00:35:24.140 lobby,

00:35:25.020 because of

00:35:25.760 the free

00:35:26.440 market idea

00:35:26.980 logs,

00:35:27.780 we don't

00:35:28.120 have a

00:35:28.480 domestic

00:35:28.920 capacity

00:35:29.560 in the

00:35:29.860 United

00:35:30.140 States

00:35:30.740 to

00:35:31.440 process

00:35:32.180 the

00:35:33.060 rare

00:35:33.420 earths

00:35:33.920 that the

00:35:34.280 military

00:35:34.720 needs

00:35:35.320 to meet

00:35:36.040 its

00:35:36.220 critical

00:35:36.680 requirements.

00:35:37.980 Kamala

00:35:38.540 can go

00:35:39.100 and do

00:35:39.740 these

00:35:39.960 goodwill

00:35:40.420 tours,

00:35:41.220 but her

00:35:41.760 administration

00:35:42.240 is the

00:35:42.880 same

00:35:43.160 one

00:35:43.560 that's

00:35:44.100 holding

00:35:44.540 up the

00:35:44.960 permitting

00:35:45.560 for the

00:35:46.120 type of

00:35:46.680 rare earth

00:35:47.580 processing

00:35:48.400 that you

00:35:49.220 and I

00:35:49.540 fought for

00:35:50.100 the whole

00:35:50.420 time we

00:35:50.760 were in

00:35:50.980 the White

00:35:51.260 House.

00:35:51.920 I don't

00:35:52.600 care

00:35:52.860 whether she

00:35:53.340 wants to

00:35:53.720 go and

00:35:53.980 do a

00:35:54.180 goodwill

00:35:54.560 tour.

00:35:55.260 Her

00:35:55.540 colleagues

00:35:56.840 in

00:35:57.060 Washington

00:35:57.480 are

00:35:58.060 keeping

00:35:58.440 us

00:35:58.720 from

00:35:58.900 being

00:36:00.180 independent

00:36:00.940 of

00:36:01.260 China

00:36:01.640 for the

00:36:02.300 type of

00:36:02.720 critical

00:36:03.040 minerals

00:36:03.540 the F-35

00:36:04.500 requires,

00:36:05.420 our

00:36:05.560 submarines

00:36:05.980 require,

00:36:07.000 so it's a

00:36:07.940 wholly

00:36:08.220 counterproductive

00:36:09.060 visit.

00:36:09.360 And just

00:36:11.680 let's note

00:36:12.420 these rare

00:36:13.000 earths are

00:36:13.600 also a

00:36:14.620 critical

00:36:15.020 component

00:36:16.080 of virtually

00:36:16.720 all the

00:36:17.240 high-tech

00:36:17.740 products

00:36:18.300 that consumers

00:36:19.480 buy,

00:36:21.040 whether it's

00:36:21.520 automobiles

00:36:22.740 these days

00:36:23.420 or whether

00:36:24.780 it's their

00:36:25.260 iPhone or

00:36:25.940 anything in

00:36:26.520 between.

00:36:27.280 So I

00:36:28.180 think Alex's

00:36:28.900 point is

00:36:29.440 well taken.

00:36:31.320 China,

00:36:33.680 by the

00:36:33.940 way,

00:36:34.420 has just

00:36:35.680 on its

00:36:36.120 own over

00:36:36.640 90%

00:36:37.400 of the

00:36:37.940 rare

00:36:38.180 earth-based

00:36:39.860 materials.

00:36:40.840 And then if

00:36:41.220 they are

00:36:41.960 able to

00:36:42.500 corner the

00:36:42.920 market in

00:36:43.440 Africa as

00:36:44.120 well,

00:36:44.400 they close

00:36:44.920 all of us

00:36:45.520 out.

00:36:45.800 Meanwhile,

00:36:46.220 we don't

00:36:46.580 have

00:36:46.960 production

00:36:48.460 capabilities.

00:36:49.920 And so

00:36:50.040 this is the

00:36:50.580 kind of

00:36:50.940 thing that

00:36:52.680 those folks

00:36:54.360 just don't

00:36:55.800 understand.

00:36:56.440 before we

00:36:57.880 move to

00:36:58.440 Taiwan,

00:36:59.360 we spoke

00:36:59.940 earlier in

00:37:00.520 the day

00:37:00.960 and you

00:37:01.840 had a

00:37:02.320 top line

00:37:03.000 on the

00:37:03.760 only way

00:37:04.420 we're going

00:37:04.740 to beat

00:37:05.060 communist

00:37:05.520 China is

00:37:06.480 fill in

00:37:07.280 that blank

00:37:07.800 for the

00:37:08.920 war room

00:37:09.280 battleground

00:37:09.800 audience,

00:37:10.320 if you

00:37:10.480 would,

00:37:10.700 Alex.

00:37:12.240 Yeah,

00:37:12.720 Peter,

00:37:13.020 the only way

00:37:13.420 we're going

00:37:13.700 to beat

00:37:14.020 communist

00:37:14.440 China is

00:37:15.380 to get

00:37:15.860 over this

00:37:17.300 free market

00:37:19.080 ideological

00:37:20.260 stuff you

00:37:22.500 and I

00:37:22.800 dealt with

00:37:23.300 for four

00:37:23.720 years in

00:37:24.080 the White

00:37:24.420 House,

00:37:25.020 where the

00:37:25.380 ideologues

00:37:26.220 refuse to

00:37:27.200 understand

00:37:27.840 that it's

00:37:28.700 the Trump

00:37:29.300 trade

00:37:29.680 policies

00:37:30.240 that you

00:37:30.940 fought for,

00:37:31.620 that I

00:37:32.080 tried to

00:37:32.440 help you

00:37:32.720 fight for,

00:37:33.580 it's the

00:37:34.300 commitment to

00:37:35.160 a manufacturing

00:37:35.980 economy that

00:37:37.180 can actually

00:37:37.740 sustain our

00:37:38.980 military so

00:37:39.840 we can deter

00:37:40.360 a conflict

00:37:40.940 and God

00:37:41.900 forbid if we

00:37:42.440 have to

00:37:42.860 win a

00:37:43.280 conflict,

00:37:44.280 it's having

00:37:45.720 the type

00:37:46.220 of a

00:37:46.620 merchant

00:37:46.880 marine

00:37:47.380 that's

00:37:48.420 capable of

00:37:49.100 actually

00:37:49.560 supporting

00:37:50.520 our troops

00:37:51.380 in wartime,

00:37:52.640 it's having

00:37:53.200 all the

00:37:53.960 critical

00:37:54.940 production

00:37:56.120 capacity,

00:37:57.120 right now

00:37:57.800 we can

00:37:58.360 barely

00:37:58.720 repair our

00:37:59.580 own

00:37:59.860 submarines,

00:38:00.660 we've got

00:38:01.000 four

00:38:01.540 shipyards

00:38:02.440 that can

00:38:03.020 do that

00:38:03.420 type of

00:38:03.860 heavy

00:38:04.100 repair,

00:38:05.260 in a

00:38:06.200 wartime

00:38:06.860 environment,

00:38:07.520 we would

00:38:07.880 be totally

00:38:08.420 overwhelmed

00:38:09.100 trying to

00:38:09.700 do that

00:38:10.100 sort of

00:38:10.420 thing

00:38:10.720 against a

00:38:11.800 pure

00:38:12.000 competitor

00:38:12.480 like China,

00:38:13.180 so what I'm

00:38:13.860 saying,

00:38:14.220 Peter,

00:38:14.520 is it's

00:38:15.080 time for

00:38:15.640 the next

00:38:16.000 president

00:38:16.420 to get

00:38:17.040 out of

00:38:17.500 that

00:38:17.920 Bush-era

00:38:18.980 mindset

00:38:19.640 and move

00:38:20.580 us towards

00:38:21.380 the Trump

00:38:22.660 heartland,

00:38:23.900 let's

00:38:24.720 rebuild

00:38:25.220 the type

00:38:25.700 of

00:38:25.840 economy

00:38:26.300 that we

00:38:26.700 need

00:38:27.100 so we

00:38:27.520 can also

00:38:28.020 have a

00:38:28.440 defense

00:38:28.740 industrial

00:38:29.360 base

00:38:29.760 that can

00:38:30.300 take on

00:38:30.860 communist

00:38:31.260 China.

00:38:32.620 And we

00:38:33.700 also talked

00:38:34.340 a little

00:38:34.620 bit about

00:38:35.120 the Ukraine

00:38:35.840 situation,

00:38:37.640 what has

00:38:38.200 that revealed

00:38:39.020 to you

00:38:39.500 vis-a-vis

00:38:40.160 our

00:38:41.640 shortcomings

00:38:42.540 in terms of

00:38:43.260 our industrial

00:38:43.900 policy that

00:38:44.680 you're advocating?

00:38:47.540 Yeah,

00:38:47.920 Peter,

00:38:48.340 what I've

00:38:48.840 noticed is

00:38:49.600 we're

00:38:50.680 talking about

00:38:51.260 sending

00:38:51.880 relatively

00:38:53.360 antiquated

00:38:54.500 weapon

00:38:54.920 systems like

00:38:55.700 javelins

00:38:56.340 that have

00:38:56.680 been around

00:38:57.100 for decades,

00:38:57.780 anti-tank

00:38:58.260 missiles,

00:38:59.560 artillery

00:38:59.940 shells,

00:39:00.980 things that

00:39:01.600 are not

00:39:02.320 the type

00:39:02.880 of cutting

00:39:03.320 edge

00:39:03.820 naval

00:39:04.460 and air

00:39:04.800 systems

00:39:05.280 that be

00:39:05.700 used

00:39:06.100 most likely

00:39:06.740 in a

00:39:07.060 Taiwan

00:39:07.380 scenario

00:39:07.960 with the

00:39:08.600 Chinese

00:39:08.900 Communist

00:39:09.260 Party,

00:39:10.120 and we're

00:39:10.580 struggling

00:39:11.140 to even

00:39:12.060 get those

00:39:12.860 in a timely

00:39:13.620 manner to

00:39:14.220 Ukraine.

00:39:15.080 Whatever you

00:39:15.520 think of the

00:39:15.940 Ukraine

00:39:16.280 conflict,

00:39:17.200 it's shown

00:39:17.680 that our

00:39:18.020 industrial base

00:39:18.960 doesn't have

00:39:19.780 the capacity

00:39:20.480 to surge,

00:39:21.840 it doesn't

00:39:22.260 have the

00:39:22.680 resilience

00:39:23.140 that it

00:39:23.700 needs,

00:39:24.460 and we

00:39:24.960 would be

00:39:25.260 hard-pressed

00:39:25.920 right now

00:39:26.620 not only

00:39:27.380 to continue

00:39:28.000 to do

00:39:28.380 what we're

00:39:29.160 doing in

00:39:29.520 Ukraine,

00:39:30.360 where our

00:39:30.840 European allies

00:39:31.740 are not

00:39:32.380 pulling their

00:39:32.840 weight by

00:39:33.300 far,

00:39:33.900 but also

00:39:34.760 we would

00:39:35.500 be incredibly

00:39:36.260 hard-pressed

00:39:36.980 to try and

00:39:37.800 do on a

00:39:38.580 much larger

00:39:39.200 scale with

00:39:40.100 much more

00:39:40.680 sophisticated

00:39:41.200 equipment

00:39:41.880 this type

00:39:43.180 of surge

00:39:43.920 if we were,

00:39:45.040 God forbid,

00:39:45.420 in a conflict

00:39:45.860 with China.

00:39:46.880 So I think

00:39:47.380 what this has

00:39:47.900 revealed,

00:39:48.340 Peter,

00:39:48.540 is we

00:39:49.260 have to

00:39:49.680 have

00:39:49.980 leadership

00:39:50.480 in the

00:39:50.880 White House

00:39:51.420 that says

00:39:52.400 no more

00:39:53.580 blind

00:39:54.700 ideological

00:39:55.560 commitment

00:39:56.760 to a

00:39:57.740 mythical

00:39:58.260 free

00:39:58.820 market

00:39:59.180 that,

00:40:00.580 you know,

00:40:00.760 look,

00:40:01.000 we're all

00:40:01.280 free,

00:40:01.600 we're all

00:40:01.860 capitalists,

00:40:02.500 but we have

00:40:03.300 to get

00:40:03.720 beyond the

00:40:04.420 idea that

00:40:05.060 the free

00:40:05.580 market

00:40:05.920 is going

00:40:06.600 to solve

00:40:07.120 some of

00:40:07.500 these

00:40:07.660 industrial-based

00:40:08.460 problems.

00:40:09.400 You and I,

00:40:09.920 we worked

00:40:10.480 together on

00:40:11.060 the Executive

00:40:11.640 Order 13806,

00:40:13.420 historic effort

00:40:14.280 to figure out

00:40:15.280 the weaknesses

00:40:15.880 in our

00:40:16.300 industrial base.

00:40:17.040 President Trump

00:40:17.680 signed it.

00:40:18.600 We have to

00:40:19.400 have top-down

00:40:20.260 leadership to

00:40:21.340 figure out how

00:40:21.900 to fix this

00:40:22.560 industrial base

00:40:23.500 because China's

00:40:25.240 not operating on

00:40:27.520 mythical notions.

00:40:29.020 These guys already

00:40:29.720 have a larger

00:40:30.220 navy than we do.

00:40:31.380 We've got the

00:40:31.760 largest merchant

00:40:32.440 marine in the

00:40:33.020 world,

00:40:33.760 and in a real

00:40:35.120 conflict,

00:40:35.940 they're going to

00:40:36.220 be churning out

00:40:37.000 equipment,

00:40:37.700 ships,

00:40:38.220 planes,

00:40:39.020 faster than

00:40:40.240 anyone can

00:40:41.320 imagine.

00:40:41.720 So we've got to

00:40:42.320 be ready.

00:40:42.640 I would be

00:40:45.060 remiss here

00:40:45.680 in not

00:40:46.040 emphasizing what

00:40:47.040 Alex said.

00:40:47.760 When we were

00:40:48.260 in the White

00:40:48.820 House,

00:40:50.020 he spearheaded

00:40:51.100 the effort

00:40:52.200 in my office

00:40:53.180 to do

00:40:54.040 what effectively

00:40:54.840 was the

00:40:55.440 first major

00:40:56.500 defense

00:40:57.320 industrial-based

00:40:58.400 assessment

00:40:59.020 that we had

00:41:00.580 done in

00:41:01.140 decades,

00:41:02.340 and that was

00:41:03.000 done through

00:41:03.600 coordination

00:41:04.280 with the

00:41:05.080 Pentagon

00:41:05.420 and other

00:41:06.000 agencies of

00:41:06.780 government.

00:41:07.340 Regrettably,

00:41:08.540 the lessons

00:41:09.420 that we put

00:41:10.900 forward in

00:41:11.660 that have

00:41:12.280 definitely not

00:41:13.220 been learned

00:41:13.840 by the

00:41:14.980 Biden regime.

00:41:16.240 Let's shift

00:41:16.780 now to the

00:41:18.160 issue of

00:41:18.700 Taiwan.

00:41:20.040 The joke

00:41:21.000 around Beijing

00:41:21.940 and Shanghai,

00:41:23.420 you know,

00:41:23.620 what do you

00:41:23.900 call an

00:41:24.420 American

00:41:24.720 aircraft carrier,

00:41:25.920 a target,

00:41:27.120 and the

00:41:27.380 essence of

00:41:28.740 the Chinese,

00:41:29.840 the communist

00:41:30.340 Chinese military

00:41:31.340 strategy in

00:41:32.400 the South

00:41:32.820 China Sea and

00:41:34.660 the East

00:41:35.000 China Sea is

00:41:36.260 asymmetric

00:41:36.900 warfare.

00:41:37.600 It's the

00:41:37.800 notion of

00:41:38.740 being able to

00:41:39.440 take down

00:41:40.100 a multi-billion

00:41:41.360 dollar aircraft

00:41:42.260 carrier with

00:41:43.520 a million

00:41:43.900 dollar missile.

00:41:44.900 And so they

00:41:45.340 have the

00:41:45.720 largest missile

00:41:46.520 arsenal in

00:41:47.520 the world.

00:41:48.060 It takes

00:41:48.380 seven minutes

00:41:49.080 to shoot a

00:41:49.620 missile from

00:41:50.440 the mainland

00:41:50.820 of China and

00:41:51.680 hit the

00:41:52.680 palace in

00:41:53.940 Taiwan.

00:41:55.380 And one of

00:41:56.140 the things I

00:41:57.100 loved when we

00:41:58.140 were in the

00:41:58.620 White House,

00:41:59.140 you came up

00:42:00.040 with a list

00:42:00.720 of the kinds

00:42:01.700 of things

00:42:02.100 Taiwan could

00:42:03.700 be doing

00:42:04.380 asymmetrically

00:42:05.780 to fight

00:42:06.280 back.

00:42:06.820 So give

00:42:07.400 me your

00:42:07.700 assessment of

00:42:08.880 what McCarthy

00:42:09.920 did with the

00:42:10.820 Taiwan

00:42:11.200 president,

00:42:12.140 whether that

00:42:12.500 was smart,

00:42:13.660 and more

00:42:15.340 broadly what

00:42:16.120 the Biden

00:42:16.680 regime should

00:42:18.080 be doing in

00:42:18.960 terms right

00:42:19.700 now of our

00:42:21.740 Taiwan policy.

00:42:24.940 Look,

00:42:25.740 the Speaker

00:42:26.400 McCarthy's

00:42:27.080 meeting with

00:42:27.760 Tsai Nguyen,

00:42:28.860 that's fine.

00:42:30.200 It's just

00:42:30.560 talk.

00:42:31.040 I don't think

00:42:31.940 it moves the

00:42:32.900 needle one

00:42:33.960 way or the

00:42:34.340 other.

00:42:34.780 I think it

00:42:35.240 is important

00:42:35.740 that the

00:42:36.160 speaker showed

00:42:36.800 that he's

00:42:37.260 not going

00:42:37.600 to be bullied

00:42:38.460 by Beijing

00:42:39.100 into not

00:42:40.440 having a

00:42:41.660 meeting that

00:42:42.180 he wanted

00:42:42.660 to have

00:42:43.120 because the

00:42:43.720 CCP says

00:42:44.500 don't do

00:42:44.960 it.

00:42:45.800 So to me,

00:42:46.460 that's fine.

00:42:47.820 Where the

00:42:48.120 rubber meets

00:42:48.620 the road is

00:42:49.880 one, the

00:42:51.200 Taiwanese have

00:42:51.880 to continue

00:42:52.380 to grow

00:42:52.740 their defense

00:42:53.280 spending.

00:42:54.020 They're

00:42:54.140 well below

00:42:56.100 what they

00:42:56.620 need to be

00:42:57.060 at in terms

00:42:57.640 of percentage

00:42:58.300 of GDP

00:42:58.840 for the

00:42:59.740 existential

00:43:00.160 threat that

00:43:00.760 they face.

00:43:01.700 And we

00:43:01.980 have to put

00:43:02.500 pressure on

00:43:03.240 them in a

00:43:04.760 way that we

00:43:05.200 haven't with

00:43:05.920 too many of

00:43:06.480 our allies

00:43:07.020 until President

00:43:07.740 Trump came

00:43:08.240 along.

00:43:08.860 We have to

00:43:09.220 put that

00:43:09.540 pressure on

00:43:10.140 them that

00:43:10.800 we're only

00:43:11.320 going to have

00:43:11.680 their back

00:43:12.280 if they make

00:43:13.180 the type of

00:43:13.640 commitment that

00:43:14.300 we need to

00:43:15.520 see from them

00:43:16.200 to show they're

00:43:16.680 serious about

00:43:17.460 resisting invasion.

00:43:19.220 Peter, the

00:43:19.900 types of things

00:43:20.460 that they need

00:43:20.960 to do, they're

00:43:22.220 not sexy.

00:43:23.020 They're not the

00:43:23.620 types of things

00:43:24.320 that I think a

00:43:25.840 lot of the

00:43:26.120 Taiwanese generals

00:43:26.800 and admirals

00:43:27.340 want to do.

00:43:28.260 But they're

00:43:28.540 things like they

00:43:29.920 need to be

00:43:30.340 buying sea

00:43:30.960 mines.

00:43:31.700 They need to

00:43:32.080 be buying

00:43:32.640 mobile,

00:43:34.140 portable,

00:43:35.060 anti-ship

00:43:35.600 missiles that

00:43:36.600 can be put

00:43:37.020 on the

00:43:37.260 back of a

00:43:37.800 truck and

00:43:38.320 moved around

00:43:38.860 beaches to

00:43:39.820 target landing

00:43:40.580 craft if the

00:43:41.460 Chinese come

00:43:41.960 ashore.

00:43:42.780 They need to

00:43:43.200 be buying

00:43:43.520 stinger missiles.

00:43:45.000 And I've

00:43:45.900 argued publicly

00:43:46.620 every police

00:43:47.720 station in

00:43:48.660 Taiwan should

00:43:49.840 have multiple

00:43:50.560 stinger missiles.

00:43:51.760 The cops should

00:43:52.300 be trained in

00:43:52.840 how to use

00:43:53.360 them.

00:43:53.940 And so they

00:43:54.240 can start

00:43:54.620 targeting the

00:43:55.360 Chinese

00:43:55.740 helicopters that

00:43:56.980 come in prior

00:43:57.960 to the invasion

00:43:58.740 to lay the

00:43:59.700 predicate for

00:44:01.080 the amphibious

00:44:02.060 assault.

00:44:02.500 They also

00:44:03.900 need to take

00:44:04.660 a page from

00:44:05.640 the Ukrainians

00:44:06.340 in one

00:44:06.860 instance,

00:44:07.440 which is they

00:44:08.340 need to have

00:44:08.720 gun clubs.

00:44:09.920 Taiwan doesn't

00:44:11.040 have a gun

00:44:11.780 culture particularly,

00:44:13.180 but they need to

00:44:13.660 get one because

00:44:15.100 as the Ukrainians

00:44:16.520 have learned,

00:44:17.460 one of the most

00:44:18.120 potent examples

00:44:19.120 of their

00:44:19.460 resistance has

00:44:20.560 been these

00:44:21.080 groups of

00:44:21.700 volunteers who

00:44:22.960 taught themselves

00:44:23.800 in the years

00:44:24.880 after the

00:44:25.540 Russian invasion

00:44:26.200 in 2014 how

00:44:27.680 to shoot,

00:44:28.180 and they

00:44:29.000 formed up

00:44:29.760 in a

00:44:30.260 organic way

00:44:32.400 and they've

00:44:32.980 been incredibly

00:44:33.460 effective at

00:44:34.200 halting the

00:44:34.660 Russian advance.

00:44:35.780 The Taiwanese

00:44:36.140 have to get

00:44:36.700 serious about

00:44:37.460 their own

00:44:37.780 defense and

00:44:38.580 they have to

00:44:38.940 start forming

00:44:39.580 those type of

00:44:40.380 self-defense

00:44:41.200 collectives.

00:44:42.520 So I think

00:44:42.820 these are all

00:44:43.400 tangible things

00:44:44.220 they could be

00:44:44.720 doing.

00:44:45.540 What I'd like

00:44:46.140 to see is the

00:44:46.820 Biden administration

00:44:47.700 holding them

00:44:48.780 accountable and

00:44:49.860 holding ourselves

00:44:50.620 accountable to

00:44:51.680 spend the type

00:44:52.420 of money we

00:44:53.040 need to spend

00:44:53.720 on the type of

00:44:54.620 systems, you

00:44:55.440 mentioned

00:44:55.720 missiles, right

00:44:57.300 now we

00:44:58.220 don't have

00:44:58.540 nearly the

00:44:59.320 arsenal and

00:45:00.300 the stockpile

00:45:01.140 of sophisticated

00:45:02.240 anti-ship and

00:45:03.740 anti-air missiles

00:45:04.640 that we need to

00:45:05.680 have in the

00:45:06.100 Pacific theater to

00:45:07.300 deter and to

00:45:08.340 defeat China.

00:45:09.660 And those are

00:45:10.480 the types of

00:45:10.980 investments that

00:45:11.960 the Biden

00:45:12.520 administration

00:45:13.080 isn't making

00:45:13.960 and needs to

00:45:14.680 be making.

00:45:16.180 Alex, on

00:45:17.520 the issue of

00:45:18.620 defense expenditures

00:45:19.700 by Taiwan,

00:45:22.000 is it that

00:45:22.860 they can't

00:45:23.980 afford it?

00:45:24.700 or is it

00:45:26.740 something that

00:45:27.920 are their

00:45:28.500 politics

00:45:29.220 sufficiently split

00:45:30.660 between pro-Mainland

00:45:33.160 and anti-Mainland

00:45:34.940 that it's

00:45:35.840 difficult to do

00:45:36.780 that?

00:45:37.160 I mean, what's

00:45:37.620 going on there?

00:45:39.480 Because, I mean,

00:45:40.780 they're basically

00:45:41.320 relying on the

00:45:42.640 kindness of

00:45:44.260 a United States

00:45:45.740 which can be an

00:45:47.340 uncertain trumpet

00:45:48.200 to say the

00:45:48.760 least.

00:45:49.080 Yeah, Peter,

00:45:51.840 this is a

00:45:53.060 domestic political

00:45:53.800 issue in Taiwan

00:45:54.840 where you have

00:45:55.500 one party, the

00:45:56.360 KMT, that

00:45:58.060 traditionally has

00:45:59.060 been much closer

00:45:59.840 to the mainland

00:46:00.980 and to the

00:46:01.540 Chinese communists.

00:46:02.940 The former

00:46:03.600 president of

00:46:04.500 Taiwan, of the

00:46:05.600 KMT party,

00:46:06.920 Ma Ying-jeou,

00:46:07.940 was actually

00:46:08.400 meeting with

00:46:09.000 Xi Jinping

00:46:09.500 just a couple

00:46:10.620 of days ago

00:46:11.380 while the

00:46:12.020 current president

00:46:12.640 was in the

00:46:13.820 United States.

00:46:14.880 Just to give

00:46:15.500 you an idea

00:46:15.980 of the divisions

00:46:16.820 within Taiwan,

00:46:17.780 the Taiwanese

00:46:18.820 economy is one

00:46:19.740 of the most

00:46:20.120 resilient, most

00:46:22.080 vibrant, robust

00:46:23.220 in the world.

00:46:24.160 They can spend

00:46:24.920 significantly more

00:46:26.220 than 2% of

00:46:27.220 their GDP on

00:46:28.000 defense.

00:46:28.920 You look at

00:46:29.560 what Israel

00:46:30.080 spends, you

00:46:31.040 look at what

00:46:31.340 some of the

00:46:31.680 countries in

00:46:32.160 Europe spend,

00:46:33.020 there's no

00:46:33.660 reason Taiwan

00:46:34.740 should be,

00:46:35.720 given the

00:46:35.900 existential threat,

00:46:37.200 spending anything

00:46:37.920 less than 5%

00:46:39.140 of GDP.

00:46:40.300 And by the

00:46:41.320 way, if they

00:46:42.120 develop this,

00:46:43.200 use some of

00:46:43.660 that productive

00:46:44.180 capacity to

00:46:45.480 produce their

00:46:46.120 own weapons,

00:46:46.860 that would

00:46:47.960 generate

00:46:48.720 prosperity and

00:46:50.540 higher wages

00:46:51.400 and all of

00:46:51.960 that.

00:46:53.140 The mine

00:46:53.740 thing has

00:46:54.280 always been

00:46:54.840 a bug of

00:46:55.680 mine because

00:46:56.460 it's the

00:46:58.960 porcupine

00:46:59.580 strategy,

00:47:00.220 like the

00:47:00.480 single best

00:47:01.020 way to

00:47:02.160 repel the

00:47:03.100 Chinese,

00:47:03.840 because they're

00:47:04.140 going to

00:47:04.340 come in

00:47:04.760 boats,

00:47:05.740 would be to

00:47:06.600 salt those

00:47:07.340 seas with

00:47:08.980 mines.

00:47:10.480 In the few

00:47:11.540 minutes we have

00:47:12.180 remaining, I

00:47:13.440 want to leverage

00:47:14.080 your expertise,

00:47:16.220 tell the

00:47:16.980 audience first

00:47:17.920 what you did

00:47:19.260 out in

00:47:19.720 places like

00:47:20.440 Micronesia.

00:47:23.100 The problem

00:47:24.260 here is the

00:47:25.080 projection of

00:47:25.840 soft power

00:47:26.760 by the

00:47:27.640 communist

00:47:28.000 Chinese,

00:47:29.120 handing out a

00:47:29.740 bunch of

00:47:30.100 money, taking

00:47:30.680 over the

00:47:31.160 governments in

00:47:33.020 the South

00:47:33.460 Pacific, and

00:47:34.640 basically setting

00:47:35.480 up the same

00:47:36.360 kind of chain

00:47:37.780 of islands that

00:47:39.240 the imperial

00:47:39.980 Japanese used

00:47:41.180 to attack

00:47:42.800 the Americans

00:47:43.440 first and

00:47:44.000 then to

00:47:44.320 resist the

00:47:44.840 Americans.

00:47:45.700 Talk a little

00:47:46.280 bit about

00:47:46.700 that, Alex,

00:47:47.500 because you

00:47:47.820 were really

00:47:48.420 out there in

00:47:48.920 the trenches.

00:47:51.060 Yeah, thanks,

00:47:52.000 Peter.

00:47:52.360 So I was the

00:47:53.200 first person,

00:47:54.260 President Trump

00:47:54.940 created a role

00:47:55.880 that was

00:47:56.520 director for the

00:47:58.000 Pacific Islands

00:47:58.840 within the

00:47:59.620 National Security

00:48:00.340 Council, and

00:48:01.400 the purpose of

00:48:01.960 that role,

00:48:02.940 first time that

00:48:03.440 ever been

00:48:03.820 created, was

00:48:04.820 the realization

00:48:05.440 that China

00:48:06.320 was moving

00:48:07.820 heavily, as

00:48:09.000 you say,

00:48:09.520 through soft

00:48:10.020 power, but

00:48:10.860 ultimately with

00:48:11.480 the goal of

00:48:12.000 establishing

00:48:12.500 military bases

00:48:13.460 all through

00:48:14.520 the islands

00:48:15.120 that U.S.

00:48:16.160 Marines and

00:48:16.700 soldiers had

00:48:17.680 given their

00:48:18.060 lives for to

00:48:19.300 recapture in

00:48:20.020 World War II

00:48:20.680 from Imperial

00:48:21.480 Japan.

00:48:22.480 And so what I

00:48:23.280 set out to do

00:48:24.000 with my NSC

00:48:24.940 colleagues and

00:48:25.720 colleagues throughout

00:48:27.200 the Trump

00:48:27.560 administration was

00:48:28.900 to build a U.S.

00:48:30.600 presence in the

00:48:31.820 region.

00:48:32.740 We really had

00:48:33.660 retreated, taken

00:48:35.240 it for granted,

00:48:35.920 and retreated

00:48:36.540 since the Cold

00:48:37.200 War to resist

00:48:38.880 Chinese domination.

00:48:40.080 And you

00:48:41.080 described very

00:48:41.960 well debt-trap

00:48:43.200 diplomacy, what

00:48:44.460 they do with

00:48:45.000 Belt and Road.

00:48:46.420 They take the

00:48:48.020 what they call

00:48:48.660 elite capture.

00:48:49.860 They go into

00:48:50.240 these small

00:48:50.780 developing islands

00:48:51.700 and they pay for

00:48:53.780 the elites to go

00:48:54.800 and spend months

00:48:55.900 in Beijing.

00:48:57.000 They wine them

00:48:57.620 and dine them.

00:48:58.700 Sometimes they

00:48:59.140 turn them into

00:48:59.680 formal assets.

00:49:01.120 Sometimes they

00:49:01.760 just exert

00:49:02.300 influence and

00:49:03.260 make them agents

00:49:04.340 of influence when

00:49:05.160 they return home.

00:49:06.580 You've seen this

00:49:07.220 in the Solomon

00:49:07.740 Islands.

00:49:08.680 You've seen this

00:49:09.180 in a little

00:49:09.520 country called

00:49:10.060 Kiribati.

00:49:11.140 The Chinese

00:49:11.780 are determined

00:49:13.280 to take over

00:49:14.400 these islands.

00:49:15.540 And the reason

00:49:15.960 this matters

00:49:16.720 for Americans

00:49:17.680 is the same

00:49:18.680 reason it mattered

00:49:19.420 to our parents

00:49:20.300 and grandparents

00:49:20.960 in World War II.

00:49:22.700 These islands

00:49:23.460 are strategically

00:49:24.540 located between

00:49:25.800 the west coast

00:49:26.480 of the United

00:49:26.920 States, Hawaii,

00:49:28.760 and East Asia.

00:49:29.780 If you're trying

00:49:30.420 to move U.S.

00:49:31.320 Navy ships and

00:49:32.080 aircraft to Taiwan

00:49:33.600 or the Korean

00:49:34.400 Peninsula in the

00:49:35.240 conflict, you

00:49:36.380 have to get

00:49:36.900 past these

00:49:37.440 islands.

00:49:38.280 And if the

00:49:38.640 Chinese have

00:49:39.860 military bases,

00:49:41.180 if they have

00:49:41.560 access to these

00:49:42.440 islands, they're

00:49:43.500 going to be able

00:49:44.280 to prevent our

00:49:45.440 passage through

00:49:46.340 them.

00:49:47.000 And that's

00:49:47.500 incredibly dangerous.

00:49:48.940 So these look

00:49:49.520 like obscure spots

00:49:50.440 on the map, but

00:49:51.400 they are a life

00:49:52.180 and death struggle

00:49:53.060 in our effort to

00:49:54.740 keep the CCP

00:49:55.480 from dominating

00:49:56.480 East Asia.

00:49:58.120 Is there any

00:49:59.440 sign that the

00:50:00.820 Biden regime has

00:50:02.100 any clue about

00:50:03.020 this?

00:50:03.340 Have they picked

00:50:03.980 up your

00:50:05.320 cudgel and

00:50:06.180 continued your

00:50:08.220 noble efforts,

00:50:09.240 or is that a

00:50:10.280 dead letter?

00:50:12.640 Well, they

00:50:13.220 certainly have

00:50:14.020 focused on it,

00:50:15.380 but it's much

00:50:15.940 more been

00:50:16.600 climate change

00:50:18.320 and the rights

00:50:20.440 of indigenous

00:50:21.020 people.

00:50:22.980 Some of these

00:50:23.740 things, you

00:50:24.300 know, I

00:50:24.640 understand where

00:50:25.440 they're coming

00:50:25.860 from on some

00:50:26.940 of the historical

00:50:27.980 issues that they

00:50:28.820 face, you know,

00:50:29.600 we faced in the

00:50:30.360 region with

00:50:30.820 nuclear testing

00:50:31.640 and things like

00:50:32.240 that.

00:50:32.500 But what

00:50:33.080 they've ignored

00:50:33.900 is the fact

00:50:35.000 that the

00:50:35.420 Chinese are

00:50:36.480 focused on

00:50:37.240 using soft

00:50:38.640 power, using

00:50:39.700 elite capture,

00:50:40.880 using loans to

00:50:42.460 build substantive

00:50:44.000 military hard

00:50:45.280 power bases all

00:50:47.040 across this

00:50:47.720 region and

00:50:48.660 simply apologizing

00:50:50.220 for past U.S.

00:50:51.180 actions or

00:50:52.360 talking about

00:50:53.240 climate change

00:50:54.160 isn't going to

00:50:55.320 move the needle

00:50:56.120 in terms of our

00:50:57.140 ability to keep

00:50:57.980 those sea lanes

00:50:58.860 open for the U.S.

00:51:00.780 Navy.

00:51:01.460 So to me, it's

00:51:02.420 been an

00:51:03.200 astrategic

00:51:03.940 approach that's

00:51:04.960 much more

00:51:05.340 focused on

00:51:06.000 ideology than

00:51:07.840 it is on what

00:51:09.260 the United States

00:51:09.860 has to do

00:51:10.360 strategically to

00:51:11.920 continue our

00:51:12.960 preeminent

00:51:13.320 position in the

00:51:14.020 region.

00:51:14.260 Yeah, and we

00:51:15.940 see exactly that

00:51:17.380 same playbook

00:51:18.220 where we began

00:51:19.260 talking about

00:51:20.120 Kamala Harris

00:51:21.280 in Africa,

00:51:23.180 talking her

00:51:24.640 progressive woke

00:51:26.120 issues.

00:51:27.000 This has been

00:51:28.640 great, Alex.

00:51:30.120 Give us your

00:51:32.060 coordinates, how

00:51:33.640 best can they

00:51:34.880 communicate?

00:51:35.780 You're out there

00:51:36.420 in Oklahoma and

00:51:39.420 very politically

00:51:40.260 involved out there

00:51:41.460 and that's a good

00:51:42.220 thing.

00:51:42.900 How can the

00:51:43.840 War Room Posse

00:51:44.640 help you work at

00:51:47.460 the grassroots out

00:51:48.340 there on these

00:51:48.820 issues?

00:51:49.140 Yeah, you can

00:51:51.980 follow me on

00:51:53.800 Truth Social and

00:51:55.580 you can also

00:51:56.620 follow me on

00:51:57.960 Twitter and

00:51:58.960 I'll tell you

00:51:59.700 what, right out

00:52:01.220 here in Oklahoma,

00:52:01.820 we are at the

00:52:03.120 front lines of

00:52:04.380 Chinese influence

00:52:05.360 in the United

00:52:06.380 States.

00:52:07.240 The Chinese are

00:52:07.800 buying property

00:52:08.560 all over Oklahoma,

00:52:09.760 buying up our

00:52:10.320 farmland and we

00:52:11.520 need every Oklahoman

00:52:12.460 to be engaged on

00:52:13.320 this issue.

00:52:14.200 This isn't just

00:52:14.840 something in the

00:52:15.420 Pacific and East

00:52:16.280 Asia, this is a

00:52:17.640 battle we're fighting

00:52:18.360 at home too.

00:52:18.960 All right, my

00:52:20.980 brother, we're

00:52:21.540 going to get you

00:52:21.940 on Getter 2.

00:52:23.520 It's been great.

00:52:25.460 We will see you

00:52:26.520 the next time on

00:52:27.720 the War Room.

00:52:28.340 Now, I'm just

00:52:29.340 going to finish up

00:52:30.100 here for some

00:52:33.060 information about

00:52:33.800 what I'm doing.

00:52:34.760 It's all about the

00:52:35.500 Substack right now.

00:52:36.520 Peter Navarro

00:52:37.180 at substack.com.

00:52:38.880 Please go there,

00:52:40.420 peternavarro.substack.com.

00:52:43.100 Bandits War Room

00:52:43.960 is every day.

00:52:45.020 It's a heavyweight

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Bannon's War Room - April 07, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 267： Standing Up Against China; Where The Battle Lies For 2024

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