Bannon's War Room - April 08, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 268： The Good Friday Special


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56 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Taylor Marshall joins Dr. Steve and the War Room Team to talk about his new book, "Post Homo sapien: The Real Antichrist and the Real Satan." Dr. Marshall is a professor of theology at the Berklee College of Literature and the author of several books on the subject. He's also a frequent contributor to the New York Times and has been a long-time supporter of the transhumanist movement.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:19.100 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:26.860 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
00:00:32.580 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:37.720 is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:41.480 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:48.600 Stephen K. Bannon okay it is a good Friday 7 April in the year of our Lord 2023 the two
00:00:57.900 most somber and reflective days in the Christian calendar it's also Passover two most somber days
00:01:06.180 in the Christian calendar calendar good Friday and Holy Saturday and on Holy Saturday we always do
00:01:10.840 our special the descent into hell Christ descent into hell and tomorrow we'll have Dr. Tom Williams
00:01:17.580 will join us from Rome also we're going to play some of the clips from my previous interviews with
00:01:23.900 Dr. Taylor Marshall now I think we're gonna get Dr. Taylor Marshall here live in the Good Friday show
00:01:28.980 to talk about certain topics that we want to address over the holiest most somber weekend in the Christian
00:01:37.520 calendar leading up to Christ's resurrection on Sunday morning I want to start with Joe Allen and Joe
00:01:44.220 we'll play a little traditionally start with a cold open with you and we'll get to that you know Joe
00:01:49.500 you're a pretty interesting guy in the fact that one of the reasons I was struck by your writings
00:01:53.440 at first and we reached out and and wanted you to come and you know come over to the war room team and
00:01:59.300 and really make you an editor of all things about the singularity of transhumanism is that we knew at
00:02:07.080 the time the because I followed this for probably 10 or 12 years now um actually from 2004 I guess
00:02:13.580 it's longer than 18 years 17 years um how profound and important this topic is as far as signal and just
00:02:21.140 things in the in the in the in the manifested in the physical world but the reason that made you
00:02:27.860 different and interesting to me is that you really come at this as a uh it really you have a theological
00:02:34.700 background yeah I mean you went you've got a master's degree from the same university in the
00:02:39.120 same college and school that Dr. Martin Luther King went to and the quality of of Boston University's
00:02:45.520 theological departments is renowned throughout the world as we've gone into the details of you
00:02:51.920 and what you've laid out over the last um you know the last couple of years you've been with us
00:02:56.780 in in the convergence of what we call you know post homo sapien in in the in the in the uh part of
00:03:03.920 scripture I think from both Matthew and Mark about the warning of Christ about the the only
00:03:08.860 unforgivable sin is the is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit uh it's it's it's it's led us to then focus
00:03:15.720 particularly since Davos and Chad GBT where you've had um where you've had this in the 100 days
00:03:23.500 this explosion in the in the revelation of artificial intelligence so my thesis has been and and I become
00:03:31.040 more you know doing the reading every night that I do with not just what you give us but you know
00:03:36.580 other things that we can kind of find through your through your writings that the antichrist is actually
00:03:43.960 being is actually being built today in these research labs that the that the artificial intelligence
00:03:49.400 and artificial general intelligence and what and I think this shows you the fear of secularists and
00:03:55.060 people who are not Christians are not particularly religious the fear that's in their heart now that
00:03:59.900 this this must be stopped your thoughts uh from particularly given your theological background
00:04:05.640 of uh of artificial intelligence artificial intelligence as potentially the actual antichrist
00:04:13.640 you know Steve I've written about this a bit uh and I don't take a hard theological stance on it
00:04:23.960 mainly because I've you know I grew up uh in a southern baptist region where predictions of the antichrist
00:04:32.520 were constant and so I I am always hesitant to ever put any kind of specific identity or any kind of
00:04:42.760 specific dates onto things like this because uh they're very easy to get wrong but when you look at the book
00:04:50.200 of revelation and you look at the description of uh the antichrist and especially if you look at the
00:04:56.380 etymological root of antichrist in the greek right that you know anti being opposed to but also being in
00:05:05.040 place of and uh I think that technology and especially the sort of idolatry around technology the worship of
00:05:14.000 technology fits into that schema very very neatly and whether that means that the end of the world is
00:05:21.720 imminent um I don't know I I would say honestly Steve that the antichrist right and the beast um
00:05:29.140 those images describe worldly powers uh long before Jesus and certainly during the Roman Empire right
00:05:37.740 numerologically 666 uh is associated with uh Nero and 616 associated with uh Nero and I I think that
00:05:48.660 it doesn't mean a lot of people use that to somehow negate uh the idea that the the mark of the beast
00:05:56.680 is imminent uh or that it has anything to do with our present day they say no they were just talking
00:06:01.440 about Rome I think what John of Patmos was describing uh is really a universal motif that was it was
00:06:08.900 relevant during uh Jesus's day and after in the Roman Empire uh arguably it's been relevant all over
00:06:15.780 the world in various empires and it's certainly relevant now the idea of a one world power that
00:06:22.500 requires a method of identity in order to buy or sell um you know the rise of an antichrist a being or
00:06:30.720 entity or perhaps a number of entities that are in place of Christ they're held up in place of Christ
00:06:37.140 uh but you know in the end uh the the salvation of the world after a period of horrific uh pain and
00:06:45.700 destruction so uh you know it may I may be speaking too loosely here for a lot of people's satisfaction
00:06:52.140 uh but again I think that since since I was a very young child I always heard the end of the world
00:06:58.500 is imminent it was going to be in the late 90s it was going to be the year 2000 it's going to be the
00:07:03.000 year 2012 these sorts of predictions go back to at least uh the year uh 1666 really before that um and
00:07:13.180 you know the argument that the antichrist uh was is imminent goes back uh to the you know the the early
00:07:20.740 part of the second millennium so I I think Steve that that image that symbol is absolutely relevant
00:07:29.400 and accurate the idea of an entity being held up in place of Christ that is undoubtedly what
00:07:36.840 artificial intelligence has become for a lot of people in the developed world and probably in the
00:07:43.960 undeveloped world too although I don't have any knowledge about that um and I I think that especially
00:07:49.360 symbolic is the fact that like GPT caught everyone's attention because GPT has a facility with words
00:07:57.200 and you know probably to me one of the most if not the most powerful descriptions of Jesus comes from
00:08:03.740 the beginning of the book of John to the gospel of John and that is that the the word became flesh
00:08:09.800 that the Christ is the word that the logos the the underlying reality of the universe uh is the
00:08:17.060 word and in Genesis God creates by speaking through the word and now you have an art you know a non-human
00:08:24.400 intelligence that even if it isn't capable of human reasoning as we reason uh has a facility with
00:08:31.820 words that is convincing to significant numbers of people and that those those people really do
00:08:39.400 especially at the extreme end and we're talking about people in Silicon Valley we're talking about
00:08:43.760 certainly a lot of those you would find at Davos and and of course anyone who identifies as
00:08:48.420 transhumanist you have this new religion of technology a techno religion the idea in the dream of homo deus
00:08:56.840 of life 3.0 and that it it's mostly in the secular space but really among the most disturbing
00:09:05.260 developments in all of this steve to me uh are the the number the the high number of christian
00:09:12.060 organizations who are eager to adopt these technologies and bring them in as being these
00:09:19.680 technological or digital mediators between their their congregations and christ
00:09:25.760 no very disturbing hang on uh joe i want to bring in dr taylor marshall doctor first off
00:09:34.340 thank you for joining us and i want to the last year on our holy saturday show descent into hell we
00:09:41.300 actually spent an entire hour with dr taylor marshall as we're preparing for the show because
00:09:45.480 we always do kind of the good friday show in the evening in the in the saturday show combined
00:09:49.600 uh we have dr tom williams on has just written this incredible book about the coming christian
00:09:54.340 persecution we went back and have reviewed uh the last couple years in our special uh your
00:10:00.260 your segments were so good i'm telling the audience now we actually have pulled some of the segments
00:10:04.700 from last year and we're going to incorporate it into the show tomorrow so i want to thank you we get
00:10:09.400 we get kind of a twofer on dr taylor marshall and we got dr tom williams on tomorrow so the saturday
00:10:14.480 show that's sent into hell special will be quite uh quite fascinating because we've incorporated a lot
00:10:19.920 of dr taylor marshall's uh last year spent the uh the entire saturday with us dr marshall two things
00:10:25.620 have happened this week and the reason i wanted to have you on the good friday show is that we've had
00:10:29.520 this uh it is and we have joe and he's our editor for for for everything dealing with the singularity
00:10:35.440 transhumanism artificial intelligence you've had this expansion of artificial intelligence that now
00:10:41.060 has the secular technologists so frightened they're saying hey uh some are saying we got to stop it for
00:10:47.700 six months moratorium some are saying hey we got to unleash uh missiles to shoot down to start to
00:10:53.420 crush the data centers because this thing's so much farther advancing to take down humanity at the same
00:10:59.660 time you have the covenant school massacre which is obviously a massacre directed at christianity and
00:11:05.900 at christian children that in the in the secular world has now been twisted that the problem was is
00:11:12.560 that the the the woman who identified as a man it was because of her time at the christian school
00:11:17.760 because of her christian parents because of the counseling she was getting from the pastor
00:11:21.260 that it was christianity that that that warped her and turned her into essentially an assassin i like
00:11:28.580 can you just put it just give our audience a situation report because you're one of the most profound
00:11:33.820 thinkers we have out there in the modern church where are we today when you have on one level what i
00:11:38.800 think is the potentially the rise of a a man-built antichrist uh coupled with the fact that the church
00:11:45.740 is under more persecution i think than it's ever been since first century rome sir well one of the
00:11:53.300 principles of creation is that god created the whole world through the logos and the logos is a greek word
00:12:01.600 it means rationality it means word it means logic it's it's the it's the matrix the good matrix by which
00:12:11.140 god created all that's orderly and beautiful in the world and john's gospel says the word became flesh
00:12:17.860 and dwelt among us so as christians we believe jesus is the divine logos he is the order he is the word he is
00:12:24.720 the rationality of everything created and as mankind moves away from order moves away from god's established
00:12:34.340 natural realm and this of course is going to play into how we understand marriage gender etc as we move
00:12:41.680 further away from logos we move across the board towards chaos and we are seeing chaos break out year by
00:12:49.960 year and become even more twisted more unnatural and more satanic and this is going to yield not only
00:12:58.180 sexual immorality and depravity it's going to yield ultimately violence and that is what we're seeing on
00:13:06.600 the political realm and on the social realm with these shootings these are people who are denying god
00:13:13.240 denying the logos denying the divine nature the divine plan for nature and when that happens we are going to
00:13:19.700 spin into chaos and that's what we're seeing in the last several weeks
00:13:23.080 how does that tie with what's coming out of our research labs i mean the the is uh we have joe on
00:13:33.480 all the time this introduction of artificial intelligence to the general population started
00:13:38.300 in davos a hundred days ago i mean people have talked about artificial intelligence been worked on
00:13:42.400 but it really came to the world's elites less than a hundred days ago and now all of a sudden you have
00:13:47.780 these technologists that are saying we need an immediate six i mean this is elon moss these are
00:13:52.900 some of the biggest names we need an immediate six month minimum moratorium you have others are
00:13:57.040 saying and these are people that have driven the research in artificial intelligence saying hey now that
00:14:02.960 we see what this actually means we need to actually have potential military strikes onto if people
00:14:08.840 wouldn't sign up to shut it down now military strikes is there a possibility in that in logos the chaos
00:14:15.520 that a big part of that could be driven by man's hands and man's own inventions and technology
00:14:20.980 well you just look at the word artificial intelligence when god created mankind he made
00:14:28.240 them in his image and what that means according to all the classical theologians and philosophers is
00:14:34.060 that he gave man intelligence and a free will that's what it means to be in the image of god
00:14:39.280 so what's going on right now is the frankenstein project can we as humans put ourselves into god's
00:14:48.580 place and can we create intelligence and that is ultimately the sinister satanic luciferian plot
00:14:59.300 that we are gods we the elites are gods and we can create intelligence and that right there
00:15:07.060 it's diabolical and it will attempt to without god's power and grace it will attempt to override
00:15:14.880 and destroy humanity and i think just like in the story of frankenstein or if you want a modern
00:15:20.120 version jurassic park they start playing with these things and then it comes back to destroy them and
00:15:27.120 that's what that's what we're seeing this this ai is extremely powerful and it's extremely dangerous
00:15:32.440 when you say luciferian what can you describe that could you define that to the audience for the
00:15:39.920 audience yes so in in the jewish and in the christian tradition there was one high angel who was very
00:15:47.360 close to god and he was named lucifer and lucifer means bearer of light in other words he was the one
00:15:53.640 who sort of bore the light before god his his chief attendant and when god revealed some plan some people
00:16:01.520 say it was the incarnation of christ when he revealed his plan he led a rebellion saying i'm not going to
00:16:07.000 serve that i'm not on board with that and he went from being the light bearer to being filled with
00:16:12.320 darkness and he wanted himself to be god that's the whole idea of satanism or or luciferianism is not
00:16:20.180 necessarily worship of satan per se it's the worship of oneself as a god and that's what the elites want
00:16:28.020 to do today that's what we see coming out of davos that's what we see even through the entire covid
00:16:32.940 scandal is men women playing god and that is the spirit of antichrist that is the spirit of
00:16:41.040 antichrist we are going to place ourselves as god and not recognize the one true god who's created us
00:16:47.000 what about what joe just mentioned that one of the disturbing things you're seeing is in particular
00:16:53.980 with chat gpt and and these remember these are fairly rudimentary level when people talk about
00:16:58.980 this that you actually see parts of the organized catholic and christian churches and other in some
00:17:05.720 evangelical preachers look at these tools as tools that can actually help grow their flock or reach
00:17:11.460 their audience is that something that can lead very quickly uh to something much darker i think it can
00:17:18.900 lead to something dark i mean we don't even know what this this is yet and so i think it's always
00:17:25.380 the prudent measure to pause and i think not use it just like when you have people saying uh you need
00:17:32.420 to get this vaccine you need to get this booster you need to do this you need this i think it's always
00:17:36.800 important that we pause listen figure out who's telling us these things are they trustworthy and uh and
00:17:43.420 probably waiting and being patient and doing our study and doing our due diligence i think it's it is
00:17:50.780 incredibly difficult because when you look at what chat gpt is doing is they're basically just scouring
00:17:57.500 data sources chiefly the internet which we've known for years is not that accurate on these things and just
00:18:05.980 this is search engines which are more primitive can skew the delivery of information political
00:18:12.700 social investments monetary religion now the chat gpt can create not just a search result but can create
00:18:24.140 an essay a book report um imagery all these things and we don't really know where it comes from what the
00:18:34.400 algorithm is what the origin is and how it's being presented to us and it's being presented to us as
00:18:40.360 truth fact reality and that's extremely dangerous so i really think that christian leaders pastors uh need
00:18:50.180 to be cynical need to be skeptics with regard to this wave of ai because uh it's dangerous it's going
00:18:58.600 to lead us to i think i think it's going to lead us to a bad place
00:19:01.220 what what do you what do you what do you mean by that from from what your your study and your
00:19:08.580 observations now because look it is clearly shocked the most sophisticated people in the technology
00:19:17.000 space have been shown this is what i keep talking about hey you got to look at critical path and scale
00:19:21.960 here within a hundred days of its release to the elite and davos of which all the other topics they
00:19:28.320 were talking about the build back better and the they just all got dropped it was like the golden
00:19:32.960 calf they worshipped chat gbt i've never seen anything like it i've been studying davos
00:19:38.680 for 20 or 30 years this is the single time i've seen anything galvanize davos man around something
00:19:44.480 within a hundred days we have the most sophisticated people in that space saying we must have a
00:19:50.540 six point a six month moratorium today so it has shocked even the elites who thought they knew they
00:19:58.200 were doing something dr taylor marshall well the evil always turns in on itself evil consumes and eats
00:20:09.280 itself why because evil has no divine life inside and i think these elites maybe realize
00:20:18.340 there's there's two things maybe going on here steve one is they realize that perhaps it would become
00:20:24.580 an alternative source of information that they can't control that would be one reason why they
00:20:30.680 would want a six month moratorium maybe you know frankenstein has has left the building he's gone
00:20:36.980 and they can no longer control it that that could be one reason the other reason might be that they
00:20:43.180 realize that this could be completely devastating i mean if you just think about the education
00:20:49.360 complex you think about books you think about publishing you think about websites this thing
00:20:55.080 could start creating basically an entire wikipedia beyond anything we even you know wikipedia could look
00:21:02.740 miniature compared to what this could begin to create and again we don't know what it is maybe it's
00:21:10.020 akin to when books started being published but even then that was just producing what had already been
00:21:15.960 written this is actually creating information and data to be consumed by people as truth so i don't know
00:21:24.140 what's in the mind of the elites and and davos i do think it is uh stunning that even they want to put
00:21:31.360 push the pause button on this i mean what do you think steve why do you think they want the six month
00:21:36.040 more i'm i'm i'm gonna for that i'm gonna turn to our expert uh joe allen because i've got my own
00:21:43.320 thoughts um i actually think they've been i think they've been overwhelmed as as as as as um nefarious
00:21:52.300 as they are i think when you look at really what's happening that and what's in the weapons labs and
00:21:58.480 what's in ccp and other places they understand that this thing is very quickly with no regulatory
00:22:04.660 basis or framework at all is very quickly going to spin out of control you have an arms race
00:22:09.340 and it's an arms race that no one can win that it's only going to have downside because the the
00:22:14.120 tools and the methods and the processes to control this are just not there joe allen is that is that
00:22:20.480 am i too far off there uh from dr marshall's uh comment about you know when you look at the elites
00:22:26.780 in davos you always have to look at it with a jaundice eye because they they definitely they use the
00:22:31.960 pandemic to go to extreme measures about how they would have more control they're not often people
00:22:37.760 that say they want less control uh is is it the fact that you think that that it's spinning too far
00:22:43.240 and too fast too quickly out of control well if you look at who's signing that uh open letter from
00:22:51.360 future of life institute on the moratorium uh the top signatories are people involved in future of
00:22:57.380 lives you've got russell stewart uh max tegmark and then of course you have elon musk who funds it
00:23:03.220 who has funded it uh you've all noah harari is the major davos figure that's a signatory um the the
00:23:11.200 cynical mind uh jumps to conclusions like oh uh elon musk is trying to knock out his competition uh at
00:23:18.020 open ai since it got out from underneath underneath him or you've all noah harari wants to somehow
00:23:24.340 manipulate this to into some kind of control narrative that we need more government i honestly
00:23:29.340 steve i think that most of these people uh have real sincerity in the desire to slow this down
00:23:36.820 most of them know that a six month moratorium isn't going to happen and i most of them also know
00:23:42.880 that six months isn't long enough to really make any impact but what it is it's a way of starting a
00:23:48.580 conversation in the public what do we want out of these technologies and they put out the worst
00:23:56.020 possible cases of losing employment even of fulfilling jobs of losing control of our civilization
00:24:03.320 itself and the the root of that fear i think is because of the unpredictability of gpt as a whole
00:24:10.780 especially gpt4 and right now they're training gpt5 which is scheduled to stop its
00:24:18.420 training phase in december and so i think that they really are i think most if not all of them
00:24:23.020 really are incredibly concerned about a the impacts on society but also b what happens when you create
00:24:30.200 a system that shows generalist intelligence and what happens if that system is out of human control
00:24:36.920 dr taylor marshall i know we're going to lose you and you're such a central part to tomorrow we got a
00:24:43.620 couple of minutes uh it's good friday any message to our audience of what they should be thinking
00:24:49.120 about a world the world is where america is where christianity is and like i said dr marshall
00:24:53.400 we're going to reprise his great interview from last year for a couple of major segments
00:24:57.000 tomorrow with dr tom williams we got a couple minutes any any thoughts uh as uh as you leave us
00:25:02.100 on good friday yeah i think in particular people are feeling cynical uh they're they're feeling
00:25:07.780 with everything going on with with trump with the shooting with uh social norms getting totally out
00:25:14.400 of control the key to good friday is is that god so loved the world he sent jesus christ jesus christ
00:25:21.060 gave everything all of his blood all of his suffering even his own life as a sacrifice for us and we
00:25:28.760 we can't be self-centered and we can't be cynical we have to be a sacrifice for our family our friends
00:25:36.440 for the world we have to take up the cross and follow jesus christ that's the message of good
00:25:40.900 friday that's the message of fasting which we perform on good friday and if we follow that self
00:25:46.520 emptying that self-sacrifice the outcome of that is resurrection glory joy and that's what we all seek
00:25:54.860 so it can't be self-centeredness it can't be cynicism it has to be sacrifice and that's going to bring us to
00:26:00.260 resurrection glory fulfillment and purpose so i think that's the message of good friday which leads us
00:26:05.820 right into easter dr marshall how do people get to you in your writings where do they go
00:26:11.900 then go to taylormarshall.com or the best places on youtube at dr taylor marshall i'd be glad to see
00:26:17.500 all y'all over there dr uh taylor marshall thank you for joining us on good friday and the very
00:26:23.700 inspirational message about our lord and savior jesus christ thank you sir thank you very much
00:26:28.440 like i said dr marshall uh we had a great uh special last year he will be part of that we'll
00:26:35.380 integrate in some of the interview i had last year with dr marshall we got dr tom williams on the
00:26:39.940 coming persecution of christians tomorrow's show is going to be very very powerful we want everybody
00:26:44.940 to join us at 10 a.m eastern time we're gonna take a short break our own joe allen going to be on
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00:32:21.700 The new religious language in the future is going to be electronic.
00:32:35.700 Electronics is going to be the language of the theology of the future.
00:32:41.700 You can say that for thousands of years already, people, millions of people have found meaning
00:32:48.300 in playing virtual reality games, we just call these games religion.
00:32:53.300 But the moment we admit that information processing is the source of intelligence,
00:32:58.300 that some appropriate computational system is what the basis of intelligence is,
00:33:02.300 and we admit that we will improve these systems continuously,
00:33:06.300 then we have to admit that we're in the process of building some sort of god.
00:33:10.300 Now would be a good time to make sure it's a god we can live with.
00:33:14.300 It doesn't matter that it's not running on a meat machine.
00:33:17.300 It's running on electronics or nanotubes.
00:33:20.300 But if it's similar kinds of processes, if you believe that the human being is conscious,
00:33:26.300 which I do, we'll have to accept that for the non-biological systems as well.
00:33:31.300 It was like ChatGPT's blind version of like throwing the ideals at a place
00:33:36.300 where they were exactly the wrong ideals to solve the problem.
00:33:39.300 And the problem is that demon summoning is easy and angel summoning is much harder.
00:33:44.300 Open sourcing all the demon summoning circles is not the correct solution.
00:33:48.300 You know, in the sort of quasi-mythological New Testament account,
00:33:51.300 the slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety.
00:33:55.300 Perhaps we should fear the Antichrist.
00:33:57.300 Perhaps we should fear the one world, totalitarian state more than Armageddon.
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00:34:23.300 Well, you can now pay for your Panera sandwich with the palm of your hand.
00:34:27.300 You've heard that right.
00:34:28.300 The restaurant chain partnering with Amazon to test its palm reading payment technology.
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00:34:35.300 How exactly does this work?
00:34:37.300 Because it might scare a lot of people.
00:34:39.300 I think use of biometric identification is happening all around us,
00:34:43.300 as we know on airports, et cetera, and supermarkets already.
00:34:46.300 So I just see this as a natural evolution of using biometric technology to drive convenience,
00:34:53.300 loyalty identification, and payment.
00:34:56.300 Swiping and tapping our cards and our apps are not just the easiest way to spend money.
00:35:00.300 They're the safest way, unless, of course, we misplace our phones or our wallets,
00:35:04.300 and then it's a nightmare.
00:35:06.300 And soon your hand may be all that you need to buy anything that you can afford
00:35:10.300 and many things that you can't.
00:35:12.300 Because a company called Walletmore is developing a very teeny, teeny, tiny chip.
00:35:17.300 You see it there in the x-ray?
00:35:19.300 That should creep you out.
00:35:21.300 The chip is like the ones that are found in smart credit cards or debit cards.
00:35:25.300 And the chip gets embedded just under your skin and makes your whole hand a credit card.
00:35:30.300 It gets inserted into your skin.
00:35:32.300 A chip, and not the type you eat, but a microchip, has been implanted in Brandon's left hand.
00:35:38.300 So after that was inserted and the swelling went down, I'm able to open up the front and back door to my house.
00:35:45.300 I can walk up to people and have them tap their phone to my hand and instantly transfer my contact information,
00:35:51.300 my portfolio, my COVID vax card.
00:35:54.300 The slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety.
00:35:57.300 Okay, welcome back to our Good Friday special.
00:36:04.300 I want to thank Dr. Taylor Marshall for being with us for the first half of the show.
00:36:07.300 Like I said, tomorrow we have Dr. Tom Williams and we're going to cut in some of the classic interviews we've done with Dr. Taylor Marshall on our Holy Saturday specials.
00:36:17.300 So Joe, your cold open here for the second half of the show, I think actually reinforces my point.
00:36:24.300 We are in the process of building the Antichrist right before us, which promises peace and safety.
00:36:33.300 I know you did that just to trigger me.
00:36:36.300 So thank you very much because you did it.
00:36:39.300 But here on Good Friday, and I understand given your cultural upbringing in the South, right, to be too apocalyptic as to maybe revert back to some of that, the way you were raised.
00:36:52.300 But given everything you've studied and your theological background, as we said at the start of the show, you graduated from the same school of theology as Dr. Martin Luther King.
00:37:04.300 Don't you think it's plausible that we can talk about the Antichrist is actually built by human hands and human minds until it takes on, we've actually tried to become God and try to build these many gods and this spins out of control?
00:37:19.300 Yeah, you know, Steve, this is something that I speak to religious people about a lot.
00:37:26.300 And I think that the most important element in the entire transhumanist movement and that push towards sort of techno religion is the idolatry of it.
00:37:37.300 The Bible doesn't have a lot to say about technology in particular.
00:37:42.300 It hints at a lot of things.
00:37:44.300 You know, of course, in Ezekiel, you've got the wheels in the sky.
00:37:48.300 You know, the Iron Age comes during the time of David and you can see weaponry allowing the kingdom of Israel to rise, that sort of thing.
00:37:59.300 But it doesn't talk about anything like what we talk about when we're talking about computer technology, the virtual reality and all of that.
00:38:08.300 But the visions do hint at it.
00:38:11.300 And so, for instance, you know, the beast will have an image that is able to speak.
00:38:17.300 It is able to speak.
00:38:18.300 This is oftentimes spoken about among theologians, especially more apocalyptic theologians.
00:38:24.300 You also have the idea or the prophecy from John of Patmos in the revelation that in order to buy or sell, people will have to take the mark of the beast on their right hand or their forehead.
00:38:40.300 And what we saw there in that video and we've covered this, we covered this when it was first announced that Amazon would have a palm payment system.
00:38:49.300 And of course, we've covered the RFID microchipping and that sort of techno cult fetish that is all over the world, especially Sweden here in the US.
00:39:03.300 And it's impossible for me not to see sorts of echoes of the Antichrist or echoes of the beast in those technologies and the use of those technologies.
00:39:14.300 And I'm certainly not saying that they're not the workings of the Antichrist.
00:39:22.900 The only thing I would say is that these sorts of specific predictions, they go back for well over a thousand years and they never come to pass.
00:39:35.560 In fact, many would say that the first Christian communities were expecting the world to end then and it did not come to pass.
00:39:44.280 So it could happen tomorrow, but I certainly wouldn't dare estimate when.
00:39:51.040 When talking about this sort of payment system, though, what I see in it is a culture that is totally secularized, that has completely discarded the sort of warnings that you hear in the book of Revelation.
00:40:02.740 And so there is no real sense of alarm among those people who adopted, who take that mark, so to speak, and either all the way with the RFID chip in order to pay or with just general Amazon or Whole Foods or Panera Bread customers who want to keep track of their loyalty points and conveniently pay for their sandwiches, groceries and other goods.
00:40:29.400 And I think that what it really bothers me about that sort of secularization and that lackadaisical approach to technologies, especially technologies that can be used to create mass surveillance grids and mass control grids for either the government or corporations to directly control and monitor our behavior.
00:40:50.700 I think that Christian communities represent a bulwark against those sorts of technological developments because on one hand, the sorts of religious or symbolic connotations that taking a payment mark on the hand has.
00:41:14.340 But also just the broader scheme that I think religious people are very much averse to the idea of using technology in the same sorts of ways that traditional cultural and religious social organization once was responsible for.
00:41:35.120 So in short, that's a long way of saying, Steve, this sure seems like the Antichrist, doesn't it?
00:41:40.180 In the last couple of weeks, I mean, you and I talked about this when you first came on board, and they've had a number of articles in the last couple of weeks.
00:41:49.900 And it's interesting, the people that were highlighting the articles, some of them signed the document of AI.
00:41:54.800 It was reinforced, I think, last week or the week before in a flurry of stories that the number one focus for the ultra-elite billionaires,
00:42:05.080 I mean the people that are worth $30, $40, $50 billion, you know, the Elon Musk, the richest guys in the world, the $100 billion crowd.
00:42:12.680 Their number one focus across the board, whether it's Teal, Bezos, Elon, is eternal life, to live forever.
00:42:21.120 And they're maniacally focused on that.
00:42:23.140 They're funding lots of research you don't hear about.
00:42:25.000 At the same time, a number of those people were the first that if they did not sign the document itself, the same way, we've got to stop AI,
00:42:33.780 they are sponsors of the research of people that came out and said that.
00:42:39.180 Tie those together here on Good Friday.
00:42:41.560 We've had these ultra-billionaires that once again is getting out.
00:42:44.900 And I've said this from the very beginning when I first started Transhuman.
00:42:47.400 I said, hey, all these elites, everything they're focused on is they want to live forever and they could care less.
00:42:53.160 But what they want is depopulate this earth.
00:42:55.460 Get it down to under 500 million people.
00:42:57.460 Their whole thing is to live forever.
00:43:00.620 And all the stuff, everything I've seen just reinforces that.
00:43:03.740 Talk to me to connect that with what happened on the document.
00:43:10.240 So I think there's a lot to tease out there.
00:43:13.240 But you definitely have all of these guys from Jeff Bezos with Altos Labs.
00:43:19.140 You've got Sergey Brin and Larry Page with Calico Labs.
00:43:23.980 You have Peter Thiel investing in all sorts of different startups, at least interest in a parabiosis or vampiric blood transfusion startup in order to live, maybe not forever,
00:43:38.420 but certainly to keep the body preserved as long as possible, to maintain youth as long as possible.
00:43:44.540 And in the transhumanist literature, and this includes a lot of writing by guys like Eliezer Yankowski who are pushing to stop AI.
00:43:52.620 The hope is that you will eventually have an AI system that is good enough that it's able to basically you kind of transfer your mind.
00:44:04.040 They would see it as just your neurological function, your mind over into a digital form.
00:44:11.120 And so the preservation of the body is really a kind of a short-term measure in order to get to the point that the technology is good enough that you can transfer your soul, basically, your mind over into a computer.
00:44:24.800 And, you know, I think religious people see that as a real blasphemy.
00:44:29.540 Hold on. Isn't that the key that you can't transfer the soul or your spirit?
00:44:35.800 They may be able to do the system of neural links, whatever it is, within the human brain, but you can't transfer your spirit or your soul?
00:44:42.800 Well, you know, I would say that the entire prospect is ridiculous, but the way they think about it, the way they think about it is I think the way that they believe that the human mind could actually maintain consciousness as it's transferred over.
00:45:00.480 It begins with something known as the Moravec transfer that was described in Hans Moravec's 1988 book, Mind Children.
00:45:08.640 And basically, you have a computer system that is copying layer by layer, millimeter thick layers of the patient's brain over into a digital replica.
00:45:22.460 And as that person's brain is being scanned, the brain is actually being removed.
00:45:28.660 And so at the end of the process, the brain has been scraped down, like kind of like peeling an onion until it is nothing and transferred over into a digital form.
00:45:40.080 And Moravec had at least some inkling that that would mean your consciousness would actually transfer over into a computerized form.
00:45:49.180 You have other very well-respected philosophers like David Chalmers, who described something similar to that in more modern terms, just as the brain decays or even before it decays, silicon neurons, artificial neurons replacing the neurons of the brain so that eventually the person's brain is now the sort of immortal silicon brain.
00:46:12.840 And then the digital representation of that brain inside the artificial brain could be transferred into a computer.
00:46:19.760 I know all of this sounds insane, and I personally think it is insane.
00:46:24.420 But this is a belief system that is part of a techno cult that I couldn't say how many of the people from Bill Gates to Elon Musk to Peter Thiel actually believe it.
00:46:35.740 But I do know among the hardcore transhumanists, most of them believe something like that.
00:46:40.900 Yeah, and there, you know, when you say that, these are the people that are the absolute edge, the leading edge of research in this field.
00:46:52.720 And as you can see from Davos, they are being flooded with capital right now.
00:46:56.440 They have before, but right now it's a feeding frenzy.
00:46:59.260 This is the most sought after, at every company you're talking about in the world, it's all about AI.
00:47:05.620 It's all about AI research.
00:47:06.820 That's why I'm saying that plea for help from them on the moratorium, you haven't seen really any serious follow-up on that whatsoever because it's so, the system itself is moving so quickly down that path.
00:47:19.680 And so when you say it's a techno cult, it is a techno cult that is very dangerous because it is extraordinarily powerful.
00:47:28.460 And I'm not a conspiracy theory guy at all.
00:47:30.240 This is not conspiracy theory.
00:47:31.140 This is the leading edge research in these weapons labs, in these universities, at these private companies, not just in the United States, but throughout the world, that are now being flooded with resources because people see the commercial and military and national security aspect of this.
00:47:47.880 And so basically the ability to grab power.
00:47:50.200 And you have an arms race that's there.
00:47:52.200 That's why I think this weekend, the holiest and most somber weekend of the Christian calendar, we want to reflect on that.
00:48:00.480 And then tomorrow we're going to get into more of it, including the shift from the Judeo-Christian West to the post-Judeo-Christian West to the anti-Judeo-Christian West, where this is all going to turn on us.
00:48:15.680 Any closing thoughts?
00:48:16.660 I really want to appreciate it.
00:48:17.520 I really appreciate it.
00:48:18.140 And of course, always, your cold opens are amazing.
00:48:20.440 Any thoughts on Good Friday as we wrap the show and get ready for Holy Saturday?
00:48:28.700 Well, on the dark side, to begin with the dark side, I think that whether or not one conceives of this technological system and the people who rule over it, including the deep techno-cult transhumanist types who inform much of the thinking among those leaders, whether you believe that's the Antichrist or Satan,
00:48:49.100 I personally am convicted without a doubt that this represents a materialist replacement of spiritual traditions that have gotten us to this point over the last tens of thousands of years.
00:49:03.000 And I think that this replacement, this great replacement of our elites, it began with modernity, and it is now accelerating to the point that they have a miracle working powers through technology.
00:49:18.300 And the ability to control and sway the public psyche and control people, their physical bodies, is astounding.
00:49:27.420 Beyond all of the hype, just the actual technological capabilities are astounding.
00:49:32.300 And it really does represent, certainly in a Christian perspective, it represents something profoundly satanic.
00:49:39.920 But I also think, Steve, that it's not necessary that that system will prevail, nor is it true that the majority of people in America are under sway of it.
00:49:52.740 That there are still, despite the rapid deterioration of religious culture in America, across the West and across the world, it is a collapse, but it is not a disappearance.
00:50:05.180 And I think that the seeds of those religious communities, there's every reason to believe that they will continue on and then they will grow and flourish when the conditions are right, when people's hearts are right.
00:50:15.920 And so it's a dark time, to say the least. I would never deny that.
00:50:21.860 But I also, the one thing that does really give me hope, and I experience this all the time, are those human communities that have remained close-knit,
00:50:30.440 especially the sorts of religious traditional communities that have remained close-knit and really do, as I said a moment ago,
00:50:38.760 they form a bulwark against technocracy, and ideologically, they form a bulwark against the extremes of transhumanism.
00:50:46.780 And I think that really, for Easter and beyond, that that is something to be appreciative of and something to turn to in a very strange and confusing time.
00:51:00.920 Joe Allen, how do people get to you, particularly if they want to get to your writings over this religious weekend?
00:51:08.760 As always, joebot.xyzwarroom.org under the transhumanism tab, social media chain, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z, and happy Easter.
00:51:22.520 Good Friday, happy Easter. God bless. Thank you very much, Steve.
00:51:26.720 Yeah, Joe, have a fantastic Easter. Thank you for joining us on the Good Friday show. I appreciate it.
00:51:32.460 Thank you.
00:51:33.120 I want to thank Dr. Taylor Marshall. Also, like I said, Dr. Marshall, we're going to revive some of the great interviews that we've had with him about the descent into hell tomorrow.
00:51:46.200 I want to make sure everybody makes it live, 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
00:51:50.220 It will be Dr. Tom Williams, The Coming Persecution of Christians.
00:51:54.140 He's going to get into the, and tie the Covenant shooting to what's happening today and throughout the world.
00:52:00.020 I want to thank everybody in Memphis, and I want to thank everybody who's tuned in here for our Good Friday special.
00:52:06.080 I want to thank Dr. Taylor Marshall, Joe Allen tomorrow, Dr. Thomas Williams from Rome, and Dr. Taylor Marshall will join us.
00:52:13.020 Don't miss it on The War Room. See you back here at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning.
00:52:17.140 We'll see you next time.
00:52:47.140 Bye.
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