WarRoom Battleground EP 272： Pentagon Papers 2.0 Suspect Arrested
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The Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas Teixeira in connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information. The suspect is an employee of the 102nd Intelligence Wing, the Massachusetts Air Force National Guard.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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Stephen K Bannon the Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas Teixeira in connection with an
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investigation into alleged unauthorized removal retention and transmission of classified national
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defense information Teixeira is an employee of the United States Air Force National Guard FBI agents
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took Teixeira into custody earlier this afternoon without incident he will have an initial appearance
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at the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts I want to thank the FBI Justice
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Department prosecutors and our colleagues at the Department of Defense for their diligent work on
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this case this investigation is ongoing we will share more information at the appropriate time
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a relatively short statement there from the Attorney General once again confirming what we have been
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reporting and that is the arrest of 21 year old Jack Teixeira he is an employee of the 102nd intelligence
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wing the Massachusetts Air Force National Guard he will appear before a court there first in
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Massachusetts and again no questions were asked he left after that statement I want to go back to our
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panel and I'm sorry that we keep interrupting you David but obviously this is a breaking news
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development if you can go back to the point you were making earlier
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yeah we're starting to get some reporting about the potential motivations here and we're hearing
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things like that this suspect was heavy into gun culture he may have had some views against the U.S.
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government there were racist and misogynist things being said on this server and those are potential
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motivations but when you look at the motivations for someone to spy or to do things like release
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classified documents they almost always fall into one or more of four categories on the acronym mice
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actually helps you remember it M is for money they're selling the secrets to get money I is
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ideology they have some kind of anti-government ideology and that may be the case here C is
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compromise or coercion and E is ego now in this case the reporting we've seen so far really points
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to the latter of those that this person appeared to want to impress these men and boys on this private
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server and was upset when they weren't as excited about seeing the classified information as he thought
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that's not the kind of motivation we often see in these investigations but focusing on that is what
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the investigators are really going to be doing now to figure out what drove this person to use his
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privileged access to actually release this classified information into the wild are you concerned about
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the lead time to go well we gotta move I'm not concerned about the lead because I'm concerned that it
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happened but there's nothing contemporaneous that I'm aware of that is a good consequence are you
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okay uh you're in the war room Wednesday 13 April year of war 2023 all things intelligence we
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obviously lean on Jack Posobiec a uh naval intelligence officer Jack you gotta help me out
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here brother you know Biden's sitting there going nothing nothing to worry about the content of this
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is explosive and we're gonna talk about that also your special on human events daily tonight
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we got Ben Harnwell here we have Dr. Bradley Thayer we got Rebecca Koffler we have Joe
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Alan we are all wall to wall on intel geopolitics war fighting the third world war economics all of
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it Jack Posobiec please help me out this is uh top secret and it's got the other classifications of
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even more limited than top secret access to this in these slides this is a grundoon in the
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Massachusetts Air National Guard it's not the Air Force it's the Massachusetts Air National Guard
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a grundoon a 21 year old grundoon you expect me to believe that somebody in the Massachusetts Air
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National Guard at some Air National Guard base in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts had access to this
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information sir well Steve 100 the joint staff brief as we talked about a week ago on this program where
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we were the first way before the New York Times way before CNN anybody else that told the truth about
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United States special operators were being on the ground in Ukraine war room was number one on Good
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Friday morning and I'm here to tell you and as I said on that same day that the joint staff briefing is
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one of the most widely read briefings within the intel community uh if you have top secret access if
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you've got jwix access you're definitely reading this brief on a daily basis uh every intel analyst it
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was required reading when I ran the intel shop when I ran an n2 shop I would always tell people two
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things to read every morning it's the joint staff brief and CIA wire at least check in with them so
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access to it absolutely but I think what you're really seeing here is that the entire military
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industrial complex is losing it that they're all of their lies about the Ukraine war were completely
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exposed by a 21 year old kid look how fast they went after this guy versus the Dobbs leak which took
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place a year ago it's been a year with nothing and the entire media wants you to focus on this kid
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and the leak and they're calling him anti-american they're saying all these things but what did he
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do Steve he told the truth his biggest crime his biggest crime was exposing the truth about the
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Ukraine war that nobody else in the government was willing to do now I'm not saying he did it the right
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way I'm not saying he followed the right channels I get all that but I am not going to follow the shiny
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object and go chasing this ball that the media and the government want me to chase because I know that
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this guy brought forward the receipts and he brought forward the truth
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I want to go specifically to the content because Biden just kind of blows it off
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you've got the air defenses and I want you to come in and you got the air defenses you had the
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air defenses shot you've got the ammunition backlog that anything we're shipping there we're like 13
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years behind in production nothing's going to Taiwan you've got the casualty rates of 70,000
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Ukraine dead versus 16,000 Russians you've got the spring offensive being a joke and they know
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it's a joke although the pushing in the media and then you've got the bombshell bombshells
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Zelensky and the people around him already are open the fact if the first uh long-range missile
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you send they're launching it right into Russia and they've said they're going to do it
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this is give me more context here and see the fact that they're spying on Zelensky to get that
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to get the information that's the point put it in contact you're an intel officer how explosive is
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is what has been uh revealed on Ukraine in our current uh situation there sir
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look at the theater there's a reason that they're putting on the show for us right now
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this daytime perp walk uh the press briefing that's being done by the attorney general
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the media is talking about it day in day out the Washington Post and the New York Times with their
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investigative pieces by the way those pieces by the New York Times the Washington Post were
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completely leaked by the national security community to them this wasn't some oh we found
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it on our own through our investigative work I said no no you were handed that on a silver platter
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and you're still you're telling us a song and dance about oh we you know we used uh highly
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sophisticated journalism techniques to discover this discord server and get the guys no no here's
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what happened Steve I'll tell you exactly what happened the the NSA went in and sucked up every
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piece of discord that they have to to find out where this thing came from they went everybody they went to
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every single member of the discord that was inside the United States or within within their reach and
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I got you know what happened people got knocks on their doors and they said you're gonna get a call
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from the New York Times and the Washington Post and here's what you're gonna say and they handed
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them a script and they've got this thing up with the guys in in silhouette and all this this guy wasn't
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a whistleblower this guy wasn't doing the right thing this guy was cut me a break cut me a break
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we you guys are in total CYA mode that's why you're getting the theatrics that's why it's total
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hide the football because they don't want you talking about the fact that it has now been exposed
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that not only have they been lying to us about the Ukraine war that it turns out the joint staff which
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uh last I checked Steve the head of which is chairman of the joint chiefs general Milley they've
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been lying to us they've been getting briefings this is a daily brief this is the brief they get every
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day every day Milley knows the truth he goes out there he lies about it Jack Kirby goes out and lies
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about it to all of us and now we know that they've been doing it deliberately the entire time
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Jack made me feel better here the you got Julian Assange you have Snowden you have all these things
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this has been up has it been up since January on 4chan and discord and then telegram this has been
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was it months before they even understood that this stuff was coming out how did that happen how did
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how did we have highly classified material that uh that came up on these different chat rooms etc
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for looks like months before anybody in authority knew that the stuff was missing or stuff was being
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viewed outside of people that were uh that had the classification clearances to review it sir
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well Steve I mean it's it's like anything else right if if people are being shared at these in these
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private chat rooms these private servers which by the way I'm just going to say something right now
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word of caution to anyone in the audience that if somebody comes up to you in a private chat room
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and says hey buddy do you want to look at do you want to look at some classified documents you want
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to come you know come right out of the skiff and take a look at the PDB downloaded from jwix take a
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look at the joint staff brief etc etc I try not to go to throw out too many acronyms when I'm on war room
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here but you know for the audience to to look up all that stuff these are all the various different
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intelligence products that you would read on a daily basis as an intel officer this
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uh intellipedia was part of it that's kind of like the wikipedia of the intel community
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so at first this guy's just sharing so we're told right the story we're told is that he was sharing
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them out to people in this private server that they he at one point he was copying documents and putting
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the information in then he moved to printing out documents taking them home taking pictures of the
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documents when he then got home and then uploading them I I presume from from his phone um or some
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other device to this server so the military would have no way to to be able to track that if nobody
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was talking from inside the server or if they were subpoenaing discord the only way that they'd be
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able to do it is if you turn the full force of the NSA on this thing which obviously they did here
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uh jack hangover say we got a lot more to go through this plus china plus ukraine all of it
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I want to bring in ben harnwell ben we've got a couple reports I want you to get into one of them is
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that breitbart's reporting that uh politico am I hearing this right that the the true uh what what
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macron really said that's worse than what was reported that that politico cratered to uh to uh
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the ccp in in macron's office and taking it down walk me through that first because what macron said
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he basically said hey the united states is on its own it's on its own uh about dealing with taiwan it's
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on its own with uh the ccp it's on its own about its currency you know maybe we'll look at alternatives
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walk me through this that's right steve that is exactly what happened um president macron delisee
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paris that the official residence of french president put pressure uh on politico under the terms of
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agreeing to the interview that um that uh the french presidential team would have final approval
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on all of the quotes released um in this interview and in fact one of the uh one of the more incendiary
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if I can term it like that statements that president macron made about uh supporting taiwan was actually
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cut from the published interview uh for me as far as I'm concerned the story here isn't so much
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that politico um agreed to these terms it's according to the breitbart article they said that
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this is really just um they've dismissed this as a european convention and it's not I mean even
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american newspapers will um will concede uh the right to have uh quotes approved before publication
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actually the real story is exactly this that in order to appease china um politico
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um in this interview uh allowed the fed the french president to remove the these quotes about not
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allowing america to drag europe and specifically france of course into um into a kinetic war with
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china uh protect to protect the territorial integrity of taiwan it's an astonishing story
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astonishing uh jack basovic let me get your take on that you're gonna hang with me for a few
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minutes walk me through this you you got the one hand the ukraine leak which shows you they know
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they're losing we're pumping more resources there the french and everybody are kind of taking a step
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back while we pour more money into it where we really need an ally it's kind of hey fare thee well
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devil devil catch the hindmost jack basovic steve the xi jinping and we're going to be doing
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an entire special tonight on human events daily it is part of our china file series and we're calling it
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the art of the dragon because you see what xi jinping has done here using the one belt one road
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construct the dragon has spread its wings to envelop everything from the united states to silicon valley
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to washington dc to now as we see with macron to western europe and what's the last piece that they
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want the last piece that xi jinping wants is taiwan island and we know from sun tzu steve we know from
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reading our sun tzu and i guarantee you the chinese military reads sun tzu the supreme art of war the
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supreme art of war is subduing your enemies without firing a single shot and that's exactly what they're
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doing they're running the table on us right now president trump called this out in his interview with
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he said macron's over there kowtowing in a complete show a complete show of submission
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absolute submission saying we cannot be dependent on the u.s dollar is exactly what lula is saying
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after he landed in shanghai and he gave the speech we're going to go through all of lula's speech at
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the shanghai new development bank because what he's doing is a declaration of war reading from the
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script that xi jinping handed him on the u.s dollar if you don't understand that the d dollars i know
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the war room posse understands this but he must be must be clear that taiwan island and the
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de-dollarization of the world are happening simultaneously for a reason they're doing it
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because it's not even about the military per se it's about the money follow the money
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what jack's talking about that's why you gotta watch human events daily the the new episode on the uh
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on the on the xi files on the china files this is about the the art of the dragon um that back when
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lula gets there and it does the thing that development bank is what i call the bricks bank that is the
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brazil russia india china south africa that's the bricks bank i mean he's sitting in front of it saying
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this is going to be the new world order and we're going to run the deal and now we got brazil your
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long-term ally uh monroe doc monroe doctrine uh suck on this right and by the way here another
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communist and brazil's not enough they're going with mexico too they're going with mexico they're
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coming right up to our fence they're literally coming across our fence met the fact that we're
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letting mexico enter into this anti-american economic global alliance just shows the abject
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failures of tony blinken victorian newland and everyone in the american foreign policy uh blob
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that's that have been operating for the last 30 years this is what happens when you outsource your
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foreign policy on your diplomacy to idiots and neocons and neoliberals these iconoclasts who have
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no idea how the world works but but you just okay but you just name you got to help me out here you
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just named the guys that newland and and blinken they're one million percent focused on on a ukraine
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and i don't want to say it's because of victoria newland's uh heritage and her family that comes
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through there and her great parents be like me like uh you focused on poland and me focused on ireland
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it's not acceptable they're maniacally focused on ukraine and to the point that they will lie to you to
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the face about the reality they got to spy on the ukraine's find the story they know the story
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as the as the league tells you and lie to you why are they so maniacally focused on ukraine
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and are allowing a massive coalition a legion of doom led by the chinese communist party transnational
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criminals to to run the tables on us brother look people need to understand that you put all your
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chips in this basket these atlanticists these people who have yes it's true they do have uh these these
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age-old grievances these conflicts that go back hundreds of years thousands of years in some cases
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and when you put that ahead of the national good of the united states of america you are going to
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fail and you're going to fail every time which by the way isn't even in the best interests of the
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people that are in ukraine that are in the midst of this fighting which is exactly what came out in
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these documents they're the ones getting torn up it's their cities their children in the bombed out
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uh shelters and basements those are the ones that are getting blown up over in search of this utopia
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that you're never going to create i don't know jack when i read that it it goes that that meme
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that was supposed to be cuba's that biden and blinken and newland this crowd are going to fight
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until the last ukrainian stand the ukrainians are in a charnel house they're they're being tossed in
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let me finish with ben i'm gonna come right back to you i want to get to there about the the operational
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thing ben also the financial time you got the the leagues talk about hungary hungary sitting there
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going hey i'm not so sure the united states is really an ally plus you got macron more in the ft
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where macron's really i mean he's shown his true colors he's traded us out and you made the point
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that hey he really went there not just the head of france he's really looking to take over and be
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president of the eu walk me through the other reporting from the financial times about both
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hungary and france yeah well let's let's start with um hungary because this is really when i read this
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in in the um in the papers i had until the until they they arrested this guy i always had it in
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the back of my mind that somebody perhaps is is playing uh the the american public here and i just
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wasn't quite sure of who was doing it and to what extent but here was a gem that i i saw and now that
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that we we assume that that is absolutely true the cia and this is according to to the leaked papers
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the cia had indicated um it's not known how they did this but they they'd in uh they had intercepted
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a conversation that president orban had had with a couple of his top advisors and in that conversation
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orban indicated the united states as one of the three largest threats to his government in hungary
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he specifically uh indicated the u.s embassy and said that it was actively attempting to subvert
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his administration now we don't know who the other two threats are the only thing i will say and here's
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how i'm going to link this to macron here the only thing i will say about this is it not the united states
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that's perceived in continental europe as being an um a threat to to to european member states uh sovereignty
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it's the military let's be clear it's the it's the united states military industrial complex it's the
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whole thing but what jack just called uh the blob that is what terrifies european leaders um we know
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10 years ago you know obviously no lessons have been learned 10 years ago the cia was caught intercepting
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10 down street uh angela merkel the the german the then german chancellor they were all the european
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leaders were being intercepted by our supposed um ally okay i have said on a number of occasions um and
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i know it might sort of sound a little bit um edgy but i i have said that you pick that macron right
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is acting in he's trying his best to act in france's uh best interest because from from the perspective
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of paris sure you can make the argument that vladimir putin is a threat to continental stability but far
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more real from the french perspective um and and and these intercept intercepted remarks here from
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ormond i think absolutely illustrate this far more threatening in a practical and realistic context
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to paris to british to london is the idea that the american government is going to be actively
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undermining their uh their uh their their their their territorial their political integrity what
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if i might just mention this what actually the us embassy has been doing um is that it's been
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funding a publicity campaign in hungary to encourage the hungarians to be more actively support uh the
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american position with regards to the war this goes directly against victor orban's position on that
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which is a ceasefire and peace negotiations is what's needed to end this war and that america's
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involvement is actively you know as you and jack would just say is actively uh keeping this war going
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to the detriment of the lives of innocent civilians children and what have you and what america is
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doing is that is is publishing is is participating in a propaganda campaign to to flip the hungarian uh
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people it's an into moving away from the position that victor orban has uh i think quite sanely
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perfectly respectable position i think it's the best position in continental europe his position um and that's
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that's that's you know so that's exactly why he's saying that for his first he's concerned the united
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states is that is one of the three big threats to hungary now macron hasn't been caught saying that but
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you can see by his actions that he can say that he thinks the same thing which is why he's working now to try to
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keep uh france in with with china uh which is really part of this trade mission it wasn't a political
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mission that was just that's just political coverage it was a trade mission he went to beijing he took
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french investors with him and i think that's why that's that's why macron is doing this it's not anti-american
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it's not uh some people think that the french are culturally anti-american i think that's missing the point
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somewhat i obviously the french are very protective of their language what really concerns france and
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france is historically the most uh let's let's say uh us cautious member of of nato what france is
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trying to do is exactly what hungary is doing and that is to protect its government from being undermined
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and subverted by the victoria newlands and her and her ilk uh in washington uh jack masovic is it is
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is it does this shock you as an intelligence officer that a a a senior guy that's beloved
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by a big part of the american electorate victor orban would sit there and go i've got the uh i've got the
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cia actively subverting my government look steve it doesn't surprise me at all and i'll tell you
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something right here to the war room audience i will be traveling to budapest hungary and i will be
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speaking at cpac budapest with victor orban with carrie lake with gavin wax and all the other freedom
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fighters from around the world that are gathering there in a show of support for the freedom
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fighters of hungary we are going to make sure that these types of forces that are trying to take him
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out and trying to take out these freedom fighters do not succeed i want to remind everyone please uh
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please check out the human events daily special tonight see if i got a drop but um that's the china
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file part what time what what time is it going to be what what time is it going to be jack what time
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is it going to be we're going to actually throw it up on uh our war room too and do a live chat what
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time it'll be it'll be 10 p.m eastern 10 p.m eastern okay everybody will be on that uh by the way i'm
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going to be part of the uh of the five may uh cpac i'll be doing here from the war room giving a a live
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uh speech like i did in uh in mexico to support it jack basovic thank you very much honored to have
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you on here where we get all your social media objects gonna bounce uh ben harnwell how do people
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get you what's your social media brother thanks so much steve it's getter uh my surname at harnwell
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you can see the uh probably on the strip at the bottom harnwell uh and that's where i'm pushing
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out there it goes uh that's where i push out my news and analysis steve thanks so much ben ben thank
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you very much okay we're gonna take a short commercial break we got back uh dr bradley
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thayer an amazing piece today on the washington times about actually the critical path of when
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she's going to be ready to mount the invasion or the blockade of taiwan we're going to go through
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the details and rebecca koffler is going to join us up in new york rebecca's got an amazing piece
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about how she's using artificial intelligence to execute on his war plan remember we're in the
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beginning stages of the third world war also hopefully we're gonna get joe allen here with
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china may be one step closer to attacking taiwan staging massive military exercises miles off the
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taiwanese coast senior defense officials in taipei say 12 chinese warships surrounded the island
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simulating a sea and air blockade for the second time in eight months
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taiwan's military says three days of war games reveal rapid progress by the chinese navy
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what appear to be the first ever simulations of aircraft carrier strikes with a highly advanced
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j-15 fighter fleet china calls the flying shark on the taiwan strait china's shendong aircraft carrier
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launched 80 fighter jet missions and 40 helicopter flights the drills came with an ominous warning china's
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military is ready to fight the taiwanese military issuing a strong condemnation saying it does not
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seek to escalate but is determined to safeguard its sovereignty is beijing in your view threatening taiwan
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with war yes indeed taiwan's foreign minister joseph wu speaking exclusively to cnn condemning china's
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military moves menacing imagery shows a barrage of ballistic missiles aimed at the island china launched
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real missiles over taiwan for the first time last year look at the military sizes exercises and also
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their rhetoric they seem to be trying to get ready to launch a war against taiwan china calls the drills
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a serious warning against the taiwan separatist forces collusion with external forces and a necessary move
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to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity china's exercises like similar drills last august
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followed high profile meetings with u.s house speakers nancy pelosi in taiwan kevin mccarthy
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in california meetings the foreign minister calls crucial to counter decades of diplomatic isolation by
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beijing china cannot dictate how taiwan make friends and china cannot dictate how our friends want to show
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support to taiwan support including nine rounds of weapons sales to the island under the biden
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administration alone u.s intelligence believes the people's liberation army is acting on orders from
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president xi jinping himself the pla told to be ready by 2027 to take taiwan by force one u.s general
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claiming it could happen even sooner in 2025 two years from now a war that could involve the u.s
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and its allies as this fragile island democracy fights to fend off a future chinese attack and next
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but there are concerns tonight that global democracies may not be united that particularly
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after these comments from the french president emmanuel macron you know on the heels of his state visit
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to beijing he almost was echoing the chinese president xi jinping's talking points he was
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cautioning europe against being drawn into a taiwan crisis saying that europe should resist pressure
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to be a follower of america well here in taipei of course lawmakers are asking why would an advanced
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democratic country ignore the lives and potential deaths of people in other countries uh they really
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say that those comments are puzzling erica by the way when cnn is on its game and not you know just
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going after trump's derangement syndrome they can really do it that's a great packet right there
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very succinct dr thayer we've discussed uh the our great allies in nato led by the french
00:35:05.120
telling us hey sorry guys you're on your own on this one but your article in the washington times
00:35:10.000
today kind of put some order into this there's a very well thought through uh plan that she is going
00:35:16.000
through as far as these massive naval exercises can you walk us through it sir
00:35:19.440
sure uh absolutely steve good to be with you uh today um china is planning to invade taiwan
00:35:28.000
that's clear and we expect that invasion to come before what air force general mike minahan identified
00:35:33.920
in uh coming in 2025 uh china has conducted a series of exercises uh which are preparatory towards an
00:35:43.600
invasion of taiwan the first was uh conducted in august of uh 22 just after nancy pelosi uh then uh speaker
00:35:54.480
of the house visited uh taiwan that was uh operation joint fire strike conducted and that was an exercise
00:36:01.680
really to decapitate taiwan that was to go after leadership targets command and control targets uh which
00:36:08.960
was extremely important what we're witnessing now is the second which is operation um essentially anti-air
00:36:16.160
raid and joint sword is a part of that which is china's exercise to establish air superiority over taiwan
00:36:24.560
and the third that we anticipate uh james finnell uh a retired navy captain uh who wrote the piece with me
00:36:32.880
and um uh as he when he retired of course he was um the uh essentially uh uh intelligence director for the uh uh
00:36:43.280
uh seventh fleet the pacific fleet the third is going to be the joint uh essentially um uh the uh island landing
00:36:52.800
joint island landing campaign uh which is going to be amphibious assault exercising to conduct the amphibious assault
00:37:00.080
uh against taiwan and we would expect that by august uh uh 23 so we would expect that xi has got the big
00:37:09.680
pieces in place uh for the invasion by uh the autumn of uh 23 and then it would be a question of when he's
00:37:17.760
going to pull the trigger uh to invade taiwan but the decapitation attack air superiority than the amphibious
00:37:25.280
assault they've conducted those exercises so they're working out the bugs right because military
00:37:31.040
organizations are complex things you just don't turn them on like a light switch they have to exercise
00:37:37.360
they have to find out what faults they have but problems let me let me let me let me let me let me
00:37:43.120
let me go let me go through this i got august 22 for the decapitation exercise i've got uh march april
00:37:49.440
for the air superiority that's where i see all the invasion of the airspace and you see they're they're
00:37:54.320
they want this uh they want a no-fly zone up in the north in august 23 you're saying they're going to
00:38:00.960
do you and captain finnell they're going to do the amphibious landings or the the joint island landings
00:38:06.400
they'll have all three pieces in place ready to go a couple things captain finnell is legendary
00:38:12.960
because he just wasn't uh head of intelligence for paccom and pac fleet uh in pearl he actually thought
00:38:21.120
that there that the military and the administration prior to trump was so asleep that he went and gave
00:38:27.040
a speech at the naval academy and it was essentially forced out of the military because he said hey
00:38:32.400
we're going to get to a shooting war and we are not ready and nobody's talking about it we're not
00:38:36.000
getting ready this guy is a national hero one of the great patrons of our time and knows this stuff to
00:38:42.160
the degree that nobody knows even dr thayer myself and others i mean this piece is so informed
00:38:47.440
a couple shocking things number one the air force general was shocking enough and he was saying hey
00:38:52.400
we got to be ready we're going to be guns up weapons free in 2025 you and finnell have moved the time
00:38:58.400
frame up two years and what's most fascinating about your timeline the election the most important
00:39:05.040
election 2024 besides the presidential election is going to take place in january that's the next
00:39:10.240
presidential election in taiwan where terry guo the foxcom who's a total asset of the chinese communist
00:39:17.200
party has announced we defeated him miles go myself and others defeated him in the primary last time
00:39:22.880
where i think he finished third but this guy's a total asset of the ccp he's running to be president
00:39:28.480
they would rather take it by having the koumangtan win in january and not have to do a kinetic
00:39:34.400
invasion because once the koumangtan wins you're going to have a fifth column in charge
00:39:38.320
do you agree with that there that they they would hold off the invasion if terry guo and the kmt won
00:39:45.440
i think that's right uh steve absolutely first let me echo uh and reinforce uh your remarks about
00:39:51.520
jim finnell jim finnell is outstanding he's a hero a true american patriot who was calling attention to
00:39:58.240
the china threat when no one else was very few people were identifying this and he paid a tremendous cost
00:40:05.680
uh uh for uh for for so doing your point about the kmt i think that that's absolutely right
00:40:13.040
the ccp is signaling taiwan that they're in the sights of the chinese communist party and so if the kmt
00:40:19.920
wins and uh they're able to bring taiwan under the control of the chinese communist party who non-violent
00:40:28.480
non-kinetic means well that's clearly flip favorable uh that's what they want they want that to uh happen
00:40:34.960
without the risk of the united states intervening uh uh in it or u.s allies like japan australia uh and
00:40:43.920
others uh potentially but they're moving ahead uh as a very important signal to taiwan that they're
00:40:50.960
going to be conquered by china and a key part of our piece was we're just asleep at the switch there's so
00:40:58.640
much that we need to do it's nice that biden is in ireland but he should be in taiwan today
00:41:04.560
not in ireland uh he should be ensuring that yes to you no no when you bring up this um quite frankly
00:41:16.240
even to the planners and your piece was very very informed but for me even myself who it stays pretty
00:41:23.840
up on these topics i was shocked by seeing the third piece come in august of 2023 that they because
00:41:31.120
they've kind of moved minifil wasn't totally wrong they they have moved their planning up part of it i
00:41:37.200
think is they see the alliance coming together the problems in ukraine they see brazil you got you've
00:41:42.240
got lula over there right now they're at the flood tide but do you and finnell believe that
00:41:49.680
operationally that after this august or september this fall that they will actually be ready for
00:41:57.840
a kinetic strike into taiwan where it'd be very tough for the seventh fleet as it exists today as
00:42:04.240
it's armed today with the person on the training which i don't think some of the training is that
00:42:08.320
great is prepared to stop them two points steve first you want to keep in mind that events happen
00:42:15.280
very quickly in international politics july 26 1941 the roosevelt administration freezes all japanese
00:42:22.320
assets uh thus cutting japan off from bulk fuel oil and aviation gas as well as other petroleum products
00:42:30.720
so december 7th they hit us so about four months later so we want to keep in mind that events can
00:42:36.480
happen very quickly in international politics secondly xi jinping is determined to do this
00:42:41.920
so keeping in mind events happen fast he's driving it uh and that's really important related to that
00:42:49.360
we do not have the forces in place uh the u.s navy is essentially balanced 50 50 between the atlantic
00:42:57.040
and the pacific that should be easily 75 in the pacific versus 25 in the atlantic there's so much that
00:43:04.000
we need to do both in terms of sending military capabilities in the area reinforced by key allies
00:43:11.920
like japan uh and other states as well as sending political messages willpower that is we need to
00:43:20.320
deter this war this war is coming we need to deter it and that means having military capabilities including
00:43:28.960
nuclear capabilities which are necessary here uh and political will to back up uh the use of force
00:43:37.600
or potential use of force we need to deter this war not have taiwan fall if taiwan falls we're in
00:43:44.880
a very very dark world uh as you've identified many times in terms of economic consequences
00:43:52.320
it was it was announced today i get it up on getters announced today the oracle of omaha
00:43:57.040
this guy's one of the savviest investors in the world he's been one of the big believers in taiwan
00:44:01.440
semiconductor he wanted to have a big stake in something leading edge he dumped all four billion
00:44:05.920
dollars he sold warren buffett sold it he said the reason he sold it the threat of war when warren
00:44:12.640
buffett hey when warren buffett's bailing out of a of a of a an asset that's been a great stock for him
00:44:18.960
it's time to really think that's a smart guy hang over a second dr thayer uh rebecca koffler amazing
00:44:24.400
piece in fox today about uh xi and in artificial intelligence talk to us about uh the peace talk
00:44:31.760
to us about what america you know that we are not prepared frank gaffney said it best it's one thing
00:44:37.200
about korea and vietnam and afghanistan iraq when you can leave and say hey we just you know got a
00:44:42.400
patience it's another thing to catastrophically lose a major great power conflict with 10 or 12 000
00:44:50.320
sailors going to the bottom of the straits of taiwan or the south china sea psychologically
00:44:55.120
the united states may never recover from that talk to us about what she's got in store for us with
00:44:59.200
artificial intelligence well exactly steve just like bradley thayer said we have been uh sleeping
00:45:06.800
at the switch uh not just for years but uh for decades at this time uh both uh xi jinping and
00:45:15.280
hulu are joining forces to uh weaponize artificial intelligence uh against the united states whom
00:45:22.800
they both view as their primary adversary and their primary target um xi jinping uh actually um directed
00:45:33.280
his government and his military um to become the leader in artificial intelligence and um surpassed the
00:45:43.600
united states in just a few years by 2030. um they adopted their national artificial intelligence strategy
00:45:52.640
uh back in 2017 um almost a 16 months after uh they had a wake-up call what happened was uh google enabled
00:46:04.320
alpha go uh artificial intelligence capability defeated the world champion in go the chinese
00:46:13.200
ancient gate um this this north korean uh uh champion um he was completely he was unbeatable until until
00:46:24.400
then and so this was just an a wake-up call uh to the chinese and they immediately decided that they are
00:46:33.760
going to weaponize this capability and they're talking about their doctrinal um um uh specialists that have
00:46:42.720
been uh trying to work out a war fighting strategy to defeat the united states the so-called uh
00:46:51.440
your listeners know about unrestricted warfare right so one of the tactics that they talk about is
00:46:57.520
swarming and artificial intelligence um is an enabling technology right it simulates um human
00:47:04.880
cognitive process it can make decisions and so it it is what effectively what chinese are doing is they're
00:47:12.320
using it in a destructive way it becomes a force multiplier if you enable your cyber attacks or your
00:47:21.280
kinetic weapons with ai the effect uh can be as destructive as an effect produced by the nuclear
00:47:30.000
weapons only without the mushroom cloud this is why the chinese favor that type of technology and so the
00:47:37.520
swarming tactic one of the ways that they uh envision uh of defeating or even preventing the u.s from
00:47:46.880
intervening in the conflict in taiwan because we are the only country that uh hopefully is capable of
00:47:54.640
preventing that from happening but what they want to do is flood the u.s airspace
00:48:00.160
uh with objects if you think about the uh the spy balloon right that um traverse the entire the united
00:48:09.760
states undetected um imagine 100 of such balloons enabled by ei enabled with both kinetic and non-kinetic
00:48:20.800
payloads or even some of the uh uh payloads could be chem bio right and uh if norad the north american
00:48:29.600
airspace defense command had trouble detecting one balloon right uh because it flew at the altitude
00:48:39.360
uh on which we we just don't have the capability or we were looking at imagine a hundred of those
00:48:45.520
balloons and um we used four hundred thousand dollars um um missile to strike that one balloon so
00:48:57.360
this is the type of uh warfare that the chinese want to exploit what they talk about it on the
00:49:02.560
ship warfare is um americans using golden bullets to strike birds right and what they want to do is
00:49:12.320
deplete our weapons arsenal even in the run-up to the conflict so that they win without fighting that's
00:49:21.280
what they talk about and you know in the ukraine and in the in the security in the secure briefings
00:49:27.360
you see that we're 13 years i mean we're running out of ammo we're shoveling it all in
00:49:31.360
he actually had the secretary navy he took it down but he tweeted two months ago hey we got
00:49:36.240
to slow down the ukraine we're not going to have anything for the south china sea taiwan they may
00:49:40.240
take it down rebecca we got to bounce this article is amazing how do people get to you and your
00:49:44.480
writings rebecca koffler.com is my website i regularly uh write my unclassified intelligence analysis on
00:49:52.960
foxnews.com on newyorkpost.com and i post it on my social media at rebecca koffler 0132
00:50:01.920
on getter twitter and true social this piece is up on fox news is absolutely incredible rebecca
00:50:08.560
koffler dia a former dia thank you very much for joining us ma'am thank you for having me steve
00:50:17.360
dr bradley thayer we're in it now brother you've warned about this for years you've written books
00:50:22.000
on this you're specialists in this what we we got about a minute 90 seconds like what would you like
00:50:26.960
to see out of the america the biden regime or in the house you had mccarthy meet but what actions
00:50:33.360
would you like to see now to know that somebody's somebody's awake and understands that she is
00:50:39.280
rolling and he's rolling hard towards a kinetic war biden's got to give a major speech on taiwan
00:50:45.360
and he's got to say that taiwan is in the national interest of the united states and will defend it
00:50:50.160
in conjunction with our allies like japan who've conveyed to us that if we stand uh on taiwan the
00:50:56.880
japanese will join us as well as other allies like the australians uh so that's very significant
00:51:02.480
we need to establish the political willpower we're establishing an extended deterrent to taiwan
00:51:08.720
secondly you've got to flow the weaponry into it whether that's allied japan certainly troops have
00:51:14.320
got to be deployed but u.s military forces have got to be deployed in the area naval forces marines
00:51:21.840
air force army have got to be there today not just in the hundreds that they've revealed uh publicly
00:51:29.680
that are present on taiwan but orders of magnitude more we've done this before we know how to deter
00:51:36.560
uh an existential threat we did it with the soviet union we had the central front uh on the inner
00:51:42.800
german border during the cold war and we need to have a new central front uh with taiwan uh today
00:51:49.360
because we want to deter the conflict we don't want to fight the conflict uh if but if it does come
00:51:55.280
we don't want to fight it we're gonna have to win it and we're gonna have to win uh uh bradley
00:52:01.440
thayer how do people get to you i'm at bradley thayer getter and truth and center for security
00:52:07.360
policy.org thanks steve thanks very much thanks brother 10 a.m tomorrow morning we come back we
00:52:14.080
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00:52:19.760
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