WarRoom Battleground EP 294: Trump Soars In State Polls
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Join us in the War Room as we welcome our first guest, Natalie Janes, as she joins us on the show to discuss her new role on the Tim Pool show and her thoughts on the Durham Report.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon okay welcome it's tuesday 16 may in the air for 2023 we're jammed uh this
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evening i want to start with our own natalie winters natalie uh you're at tim pool uh in a little
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while uh walk us through uh this is a big big deal for all of us we love the tim pool show we love
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their audience love tim pool the entire his entire collection of characters i would say and what i
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refer to as the harper ferry compound give us your assessment today what do you expect to to get uh
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joining their program i was supposed to go on the show a few weeks ago but unfortunately because
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pete buddha judge is so bad at his job my flight was delayed and then canceled so i ended up not being
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able to make it i'm sure there was probably some intentional interference maybe on the biden regime's
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part or maybe the chinese communist party so this has been a long time coming but i'm very excited
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to be joining i have to say you've sort of i don't know gotten my my hopes up i don't really know what
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to expect you've made me think they're a band of of some wild people but i'm excited i guess that's
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what i'm used to in the war room no this is not yeah it's it's even more gonzo than the war room this
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definitely not palm beach a couple things you know these hearings i just want to do you you know
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we've had the ai hearing today uh the the the uh oversight committee give us your assessment of how
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you think things were saying you've got a couple stories on zuckerberg and ukraine board i want to
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talk about in detail but i want to get your assessment of the durham reports out do you think
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that we're being aggressive enough on these hearings on these investigations and if we're not
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what is your recommendation to leadership how we kick this thing to gear because i think the
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the durham report to me epitomizes just the the limp rag wet noodle way that republicans go about this
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ma'am yeah i i don't think we are firing on all cylinders and i think part of it is that they want
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us to be demoralized so there's i think a lot of conflicts of interest going on there and i think
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as we know it's not just that we have rhinos among our ranks but we have people who i think
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are just frankly okay with losing and are okay with putting out strongly worded statements and letters
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and white papers uh as opposed to actually firing back um i i think the press conference that comer and
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the oversight gang had was was good in the sense that you know the information that they're uncovering
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is stuff that has been around since at least 2014 probably spans way before that so they really
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have made i think an impressive crusade really a blitz into the doj into the treasury department
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to get these records out but i think it's just hard because you know the war room posse the activist
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crowd who's so immersed in this since the days that the hunter biden hard drive broke has known a lot of
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these stories these details of corruption so i think that's why there sort of feels like there's a lag
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going on in terms of actual action um but i mean concerning the durham report you know i think
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there's a faction of republicans who are okay with just being vindicated and it feels good to know that
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the trump russia collusion was a hoax but i don't really buy into the whole mindset that we need whether
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it's the mainstream media or durham to really validate what is reality what we see around us i want
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to see schiff swalwell all of the people who purposely exploited and weaponized the fact that
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they were having secret briefings classified briefings in the skip um and would then go on
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media and say oh well i've seen information that no one else has seen so you basically can't fact
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check me on this and there's incontrovertible evidence that donald trump colluded with the
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russians if these people frankly i think they should go to jail not just for election interference but for
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waste of taxpayer funds and for frankly treason um but if we don't see these people at least testify
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in front of congress i think it's fair to say uh that winning the majority in 2022
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you um you know you you got started in you're at the university of chicago but but being back here in
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dc in it and then you went to palm beach for a while south florida you're back as an embed now
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because of these investigations because of the hearings because that what's the sense that you
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get even in your first couple weeks back here of the of the staffs and and the people are doing it
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is is there a spree de corps are they despondent because there's all kind of questions the money's
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been allocated but it's not being spent like on the weaponization committee is still very small some
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of these committees are not fully staffed out and i'm hearing conflicting things some of the people
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are super gung-ho and they're working 24 7 others that they just don't see it happening right now
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and there's not this sense of like the democrats are not a sense of just playing smash mouth what is
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your sense after being back for a couple weeks yeah i hear conflicting messages too i obviously speak
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with a lot of members and a lot of their staff on the hill on oversight on weaponization and there
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just doesn't seem to be the same appetite that the left has for actually going after these people or it
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just sort of seems that the defense of oh well my hands are tied i'm just one member i can't really
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do anything sort of sort of seems to reign supreme um but in reality i don't actually think that's the
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case i also think when you really get into the personnel side of things um there's been some very
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interesting reporting how a lot of the holdovers at least on weaponization a lot of people who used to
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serve on the january 6th uh special committee uh that they're still basically working and staffing
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these committees so i think if you take the axiom that personnel is policy to heart which is a valid
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thesis i think in terms of the obstruction with some of these committees it might really i think
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kind of boil down to personnel in the sense that a lot of the staffers who are supporting this effort
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they don't actually support it to their core um but i don't i don't know and and there's it's not
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often that i come on war room and say those words i don't know um and i i think there's a lot more to
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unpack there because it's it's sort of a weird sense that i get from people on the hill when i speak
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to them because they say that they want accountability they want to have these hearings they want to go
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after fauci they want to go after the biden family they want the evidence and the evidence is there
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but there just sort of seems to be a disconnect i don't know if the problem works its way all the
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way up to leadership if it's sort of the controlled opposition critique of kevin mccarthy i don't quite
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know what it is um and like i said those aren't words that i i say often um but some something is
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is not right and nine times out of ten you know my background is in chinese communist party infiltration
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but it's not just the chinese communist party that has chosen to infiltrate the ranks of america and
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the republican party i i would say based on my best guess that i think a lot of the staffers on these
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committees like i said who are holdovers um from either it's the january 6th committee or even previous
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kind of democratic-led investigations um i think that might be some of the hold up the swamp
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you know doesn't drain itself uh by choice let alone easily
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you know we had the ai committee hearing the first time of course zuckerberg has put you know
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really bet his company on this you've also got carrie lake this heroic effort at carrie lake to kind of
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fight this on the signature verification so get her day in court starting tomorrow walk me through your
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walk me through uh zuckerberg you've been the one i think investigative reporter has been on him from
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the absolute very beginning walk us through your latest story yeah i hate to be the bearer of more bad
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news but unfortunately they are up to their old tricks people may recall the center for tech and
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civic life this was the several hundred million dollar organization uh that used their funds to
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increase turnout exclusively if not 99.8 percent in democratic districts in favor of joe biden they
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were accessing mail-in ballots before uh actually election day they pushed for basically universal
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vote by mail everything the the left's kind of ultimate fantasy when it comes to how to run
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an election and i i use that term lightly election is doing a heavy lift there but unfortunately ctcl has
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rebranded into another rather innocuously uh named group the alliance for election excellence um and
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this group is now using its 80 million dollar war tests to actually give grants very sizable grants to
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local election uh offices across the country at the county level and by them hang on hang on hang on
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hang on i thought after you beat these guys in the last and exposed all this correct me if i'm wrong i
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thought he and the wife came out and said we're never going to do this again this might not have been
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appropriate it's didn't they come out and pledge maybe i miss it didn't they pledge that they weren't
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going to be involved in that again when you caught the half a billion dollars they basically spent to
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rig the last election didn't they promise and swear they didn't they weren't going to do it is this a
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workaround or is this are they still saying no we just rethought this and we're going to be involved
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well just because mark zuckerberg says something doesn't mean it's true i'd argue it's it's probably
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the opposite and in this case i think it really speaks to kind of the left's apparatus when it comes
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really to any social issue climate change you name it but really elections and it's sort of this
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much like the biden family but this shell game of non-profits and dark money flowing around and it's
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because they don't want it to be traced back to these entities who once their missions and their
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agendas are exposed like the center for tech and civic life it's so clear that they can't use their
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self-described non-partisan or independent labels and frankly when you start actually getting
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intense scrutiny on these organizations and you see the level of funding that is going into these
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election operations i think the narrative the notion that these people are operating altruistically
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uh really just falls apart and i think americans can actually see these operations for what they are
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and it's election rigging it's basically privately funding if not outright purchasing elections so they've
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had to be a little more creative i will happily wear it as a badge of honor that the center for tech
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and civic life is sort of a semi-defunct organization i know one of their co-founders recently stepped down
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and they they don't do as much at least when it comes to the mail and ballot drive also they did
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accomplish a lot of their goals but they have sort of had to rebrand but unfortunately they're doing the
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same um really nefarious agenda in this case the story that i had up had to do with how they were
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giving out grants to county level election offices to purchase them basically extra storage space and
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facilities where these offices could then catch this store ballots and election tabulation machines
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in the run-up to the 2024 election keep in mind this is the same group whose predecessor
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is still i think engaged in in court in a legal battle because they illegally accessed mail-in ballots
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that people had used to vote uh before election day and there was a whole scandal and controversy that
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they were bullying local election officials so i think it just it speaks really to to pay for play politics
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and usually i use that term to talk about the biden family but in this case we're talking about the actual
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administration um of elections which is something that should obviously not be politicized let alone in the
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hands of mark zuckerberg we saw what happened last time they gave this money out at the local level
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do you believe it we'll let you go i know you get ready for the tin pool of it all the the the
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are we have we learned the lessons i mean you see this and you see how brazenly they're doing it and
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they understand at these deck plate levels and we say store space for ballots and tabulators machines
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i mean you just triggered the audience right half the audience is not gonna be able to eat tonight
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right uh i can sell a few more my pillows because they're gonna need something to help them go to
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sleep um are we prepared is your sense as you've followed up that they're just so brazen they'll put
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another front group up the funnel the dark money in somewhere because they understand what works
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and that's why they continue to invest in this do you get a sense that um responsible
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independents republicans just good good citizens groups fair voting groups are on top of this
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in these key states do you get any inclination that people are following this as you report hey they're
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they haven't they haven't apologized they're not going to apologize they're going to lie and do a
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misdirection play but continue to fund this stuff i think it's the critical distinction between ballots
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and votes and i think the progressive left is very much concerned with the realm of ballots right you
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don't actually have to link them to an individual whereas our side is still very very very intently
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focused on the concepts of votes and wanting to kind of play above bar which in some ways is good but
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when when you're up against you know it's not just that it's the rnc versus the dnc we have the rnc
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which is effectively controlled opposition it's pretty weak meanwhile the dnc is always firing
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on all cylinders but the dnc doesn't really even do much when it comes to election administration
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right the dnc is just sort of i think one i would say component of a broader left-wing apparatus that
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really goes back and like i said it's the same if it's any social issue climate change abortion you
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name it um but it really is it's not just dark money but it's dark money that then distributes
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these groups not just to political advocacy groups and lobbyist groups but these are you know take the
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derm report for example there's a strong ngo link there and these non-profits which which really
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subscribe to this kind of wash rinse repeat propaganda news cycle where they're spreading
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i mean demonstrably false talking points about whatever the issue is um and they are really
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going after really the heart and soul and the mind of the american people to distort the way that
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they think about these issues uh meanwhile the best that we have on our side is you know
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heritage and no disrespect to heritage but they you know put out a white paper and they have a
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small you know task force of a few people tracking election crimes that doesn't matter when the left
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controls you know every millisecond on mainstream media and they have a war chest of you know at least
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a billion dollars uh to quite literally privatize the entire election system from start to finish i mean
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they have non-profits who several of them that exist specifically to just create templates of mail-in
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ballots to make it easier for immigrants to vote and basically that's code word for people to vote for
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democrats so they really have i mean engineered reverse engineered this i would argue kind of socially
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engineered um voting to work for democrats and meanwhile i guess we have uh the rnc if you can even count
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that on the conservative side of things so it's not a fair fight but we'll definitely keep exposing um
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all of our shortcomings with stories like this about zuckerberg at war room
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we'll we'll get you on tomorrow talk about the ukraine story plus the the hot wash up and we'll play
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some clips if i make it back time at tinpool couldn't be more if you make it well maybe broadcast from
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there i don't know it's a uh it'll be it'll be um it's not palm beach let's say that um it's not the
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seminal club um the or the ever cloud ever great club right um natalie how do people get to you on
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social media the site all your writings all your social media i'm natalie g winter on all platforms
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thank you for having me natalie thank you look uh good luck tonight look forward to watching it we'll
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be doing live stream of tim on getter uh captain bannon and uh grace myself zirka will all be on there
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to follow it um liz harrington liz i've got you on here i want to talk about polling liz is a senior
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communication strategist for donald j trump but i gotta i gotta ask you about natalie's reporting
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and her investigations i mean do you believe and look you were an rnc you were a spokesman for the
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rnc for a long time do you believe that either the rnc is on top of this or even the trump campaigns
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on top of this because people are we're going to talk about some polling that's incredibly powerful
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for the president but we got to face reality we're going to get right back into the same situation
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is your sense that someone's on top of this right now because there's hundreds of millions of dollars
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by the bad guys flooding into the system into what into what natalie said ballots versus votes
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liz harrington your thoughts well thanks to natalie great reporting as always and as it stands right
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now i'm not confident with the rnc um doing much of anything to get a hold of this which we've now
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had years to really get infrastructure in place and to combat this full-scale rigging which is what it is
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um and it's not just this zuckerberg group i mean they have completely stacked the deck uh in all these
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battleground states and changing the rules uh changing rigging the election procedures and it
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seems like we have the grassroots army uh working in living rooms going scouring through voter rolls but
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we don't have uh the big guns which we should i mean the rnc has a ton of money um so does so does our
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campaign we have the infrastructure and we are working on this issue i in particular am looking at this
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issue really hard and trying to get the right people in place to kind of mobilize these grassroots
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armies because we have we have the people that have been putting in the hard work uh we just haven't
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had the people at the top of things that have been you know using those resources wisely instead they've
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been you know wasting our time i mean what did the rnc do with arizona and there were so many signs
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in 2022 that the same thing was going to happen that there was going to be malfeasance and yet they
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just they said that they were going to be there and yet when the sabotage came they just ran away they
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didn't do anything so i'm not very confident right now as it stands however i think there are things we
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can do to uh get the correct plans in place i mean all we have to do is just thwart the plans of the
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democrats and the uniparty we see what they're doing we we've seen it before and they're ever evolving
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they're going to manipulate everything they can all we need to do is throw a wrench in a couple of their
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plans and we'll have a shot because we know we have the voters we know we have the people uh we have
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the best candidate uh we have the truth but we're going to have all these forces stacked against us
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and we need to be smart and tactical tactical about how we're uh thwarting the democrats
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president trump is president trump's awakened to this i mean his he comes out on the ballots versus
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the votes and the practicality of not have look we've had his election stolen carry lakes in court
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tomorrow and i really want to give a hat tip to her team for not just not giving up but really keeping
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the central part was this was the was the uh the the signature verification there's so many other
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aspects of the game day vote of which they stole it but this is the one that i think you can actually
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prove in court and turn this thing around um is it your uh opinion that the president himself is is
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very focused if he's focused then the rest will fall in place with leadership like yourself and
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the rest you got a great team you got chung you got jason miller you got suzy you got some some great
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people but is president trump because he gives the rally speeches is he now he kind of gets the joke and
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he understands how they stole it from last time and how he's got to stop the steal this time
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oh absolutely i mean he knows exactly what's going on and he's committed to just getting us at least
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you know he said it in his speeches um in new hampshire recently he said you know i don't even want you to
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campaign for me just help me make sure that the counting is legit i mean just help me make sure that
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we're going to have a semblance of a fair process here and i'm not worried about anything else so he
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knows uh exactly what's going on and you're right we do have great people that are around him that are
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very smart and know um what needs to be done as well so we're working on that specifically and i think
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we will be much more prepared uh come this time because we know we can we know who we can rely on and
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we know who we can't and i think that's an important learning process as well i mean when 2020 happened
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i mean it it certainly speaking for myself it opened my eyes just to how duplicitous how corrupt
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our system was and really people you thought were on the up and up and okay were completely the opposite
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and so if we have one thing we we have that silver lining that clarity that has come with time
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and and true merit and showing who the real people are and i think we're gonna really lean on them
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the real people to to fix this because we otherwise we won't have shot right we have to make sure we have
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a legit process uh the closest we can uh in order to make sure we can fix any of the other problems in
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our country i i'd like to by the way we're about three minutes from the break and i want you i know
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you're carving out time for us so i want you to stay through the break so we get to this we had
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rasmussen mark mitchell from rasmussen on this morning in the show and it just the numbers blew
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me away 70 to 17 among independents about they know it's an invasion on the border two-thirds of one-third
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of the american people now and these are likely voters think that there's an invasion on the southern
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border even i think 30 or 40 percent of democrats every of the fbi if you look at all the main
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topics you know president trump going after the administrative state if you look at all the big
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topics i mean these things are breaking to the high 50s to two-thirds i mean these are blowout now
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summit's got a seven a 70 handle on it when you also look at the polling of president trump there's
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something going on here so before we get into specific numbers you've been with him for a couple of
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years now you travel a lot too i know to some of these rallies tell me what's going on there's
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looks like and i've argued this for a while but you can now see the shift mathematically it's been
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out there for a while is there something going on in some is there some new spirit a new revival of
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the trump movement because these numbers are blowout numbers these are not close what what are you sensing
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well i think it is i think it is stronger than it's ever been before really in an environment that's
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never been more hostile and never been more unfair i mean if you look at the media coverage those
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numbers are stunning because they haven't been covering the invasion on the border i mean people
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are having to seek it well they live it so they don't even really need the media to tell them anymore
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they're living it they see it in their community and they seek out the truth so i think there is
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a very important realignment going on where since 2020 uh the masks have really come off you've really
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seen who you can trust who you can't and people are absolutely determined to seek the truth and so
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they're going and they're finding that source themselves and the amazing thing is even though
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the media thinks they still can control so much of the narrative uh these media these left-leaning
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leaning uh poll organizations they can't hide the truth either because they're uh projecting what's out
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there it in close to what's actually reality of what the voters are saying it's so divergent i mean you
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can see from january when i think things really got serious and people were looking at what was going on
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and to see oh president trump's in the race again he's going to come back and they started to look
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at the race more seriously i mean you can see the poll trend lines it is just not even a contest
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and president trump and on week after week with policy after policy video speech after speech i mean he's
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given some of the most important speeches i think he has uh since even before you know when he was president
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hang on one second i want to come back i want to put those charts up uh we're going to take a short
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these polling numbers are absolutely blood i agree with you it's kind of convergence of many many things
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liz harrington uh the numbers uh are just blowout numbers and your point is it's the trend is your
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friend here the trend is just incredible particularly quite frankly let me be brutally frank i mean fox
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news the murdochs are totally in the tank for governor santa's and i i believe governor santa's done a very
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good job in uh in florida we had carol swain on today talk about the efforts he's making down there
00:34:01.820
against uh diversity equity inclusion but like i said he's he's not nearly ready to be president
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united states i don't know if he'd be ready in 2028 as i see more of it uh but fox is completely in
00:34:12.880
the tank for him pressing this given that these numbers are incredible and i think that doesn't
00:34:18.760
fully incorporate what we just saw of this incredible town hall and i think for the audience
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to know that that liz harrington and jason miller and stephen chung that comms team
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to prep the president was just extraordinary and extraordinary work so walk me through the math
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here because i think we haven't done the polling on this for a while i wanted to wait to you can
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walk people through it ma'am sure absolutely so let's start with this morning consult poll which
00:34:45.220
really tracks almost like on a daily basis they issue these out every single week and again this is
00:34:52.180
not a live this is not a conservative poll by any stretch of the imagination but if you look at the
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trend here certainly since january i mean it is a total consolidation of president trump getting
00:35:05.740
support of republican voters you can see the trend lines and the utter collapse of ron de santis who
00:35:14.180
as you just mentioned had the backing of an entire news network the shadow campaign with the book tour
00:35:22.800
he's still not even an official candidate he's out in iowa last weekend and yet his numbers continue
00:35:30.280
to crater and it's really interesting as well if you you're asking republican voters all the time
00:35:37.320
you go down and look at the favorability president trump is so high above everybody else among republican
00:35:46.460
voters he's like at 78 percent something that's very interesting because you've got this you know
00:35:51.900
ron de santis shadow campaign but you've also has this mirror media narrative propping up these other
00:35:58.340
people look at mike pence's numbers it's stunning because even with all the negativity right all the
00:36:07.340
negative reporting the indictment the shams the witch hunts against president trump he's sitting at 78
00:36:15.420
percent approval uh and again in not a conservative poll among republican primary voters registered
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voters 20 percent negative which i mean to me given the amount of negative media coverage he's sustained
00:36:31.400
for seven years that is incredibly low look at mike pence mike pence has by and far the highest
00:36:39.360
unfavorable he's sitting at 25 again these are only republican voters you're asking republican
00:36:45.240
voters that to me is a direct response to him being exposed for who he really was on january 6 right he lied
00:36:54.900
about what he was supposed to do uh he betrayed what the voters wanted him to do just send it back to
00:37:01.080
the states he totally did a bait and switch revealed himself to be a total tool for the uniparty
00:37:07.440
establishment and you have a quarter of republican voters who at least i think it probably would be
00:37:14.320
even higher will not support mike pence but what is the media coming out today they're saying mike pence
00:37:23.220
there's a super PAC starting for him he's about to announce it's completely divorced from reality
00:37:29.100
he has no support among republican voters which leads me to the other uh big poll out the tip poll
00:37:38.980
uh that shows again the same consolidation support for president trump completely growing in recent months
00:37:47.600
uh almost cracking 60 percent i think it's at 55 here um and everyone else is completely nobody but if
00:37:56.080
you look at this poll it compares joe biden on the other hand who we're supposed to believe right
00:38:02.040
got the most votes in history he can't crack 40 percent with the democrat primary we're told there is no
00:38:10.700
democrat primary right joe biden's the incumbent uh they're they're not talking about any debates on the
00:38:17.400
democrat side right he's the nominee and yet he cannot consolidate support two-thirds of democrat voters
00:38:25.500
oppose him and yet when you look at the republican side president trump is gaining he's going to be
00:38:33.360
at two-thirds support him so we've got these two dueling tracks you've got reality where president trump
00:38:41.740
has consistently consolidated support uh since january he's consolidated support he is on the path
00:38:51.360
he's the choice of the republican voter and yet on the other side but yet they're pretending the media
00:38:59.000
is pretending that there's some sort of competitive primary going on oh we need all of these debates
00:39:04.960
it's got to be hosted by fox news who's been propping up desantis this entire time it's got to be hosted
00:39:11.380
by the reagan library all of these shenanigans of trying to influence the voters
00:39:16.720
and it's not working it's having the opposite effect people are galvanizing behind president
00:39:22.320
trump because they know he's the best choice he's our best fighter these are very serious times and
00:39:28.900
you need a serious proven leader and that's donald j trump so the voters are not they're ignoring the
00:39:36.160
media narrative which has been a complete lie to say that there's a competitive primary on the republican
00:39:41.360
side and there's no primary on the democrat side i i want to have you back on in the next day or two
00:39:47.840
maybe not tomorrow the next day and we'll get some charts up because i want two other things
00:39:51.680
because you've hit to the thing the reality versus how the media is trying to craft the reality
00:39:56.880
our narrative the other things i want to go to which is the now because people are a lot of people
00:40:02.960
say well you got these national polls and trump's spreading the field he's at 70 versus
00:40:07.360
you know desantis is in the teens the rest of the keebler l's roll up to 10 percent so you're at 75
00:40:15.680
you're at 70 30 or 75 25 and this thing continues to spread but uh you know now the staple because
00:40:22.240
it's a state election there's all these primaries in the state the state polls are now starting to
00:40:27.840
replicate what the national polls are saying that is a huge element here that they so they can't hide
00:40:34.720
behind that the other is we've seen the pitch and axios did a good job of reporting it the santos is
00:40:40.480
pitching the room to the big donors is that um you know as as powerful as trump is and has galvanized
00:40:46.320
the republican base he can't win i'm the only guy that can win and you're seeing that that's starting
00:40:51.040
to fall apart because trump is matching up with biden with all this negativity in the indictments and all
00:40:56.880
this and even last week you know with the phony defamation of which he's now up two or three points
00:41:02.080
after that they're coming at him in lawfare but that argument's falling apart the two bastions of
00:41:08.560
really not just the desantis but anybody but trump is falling apart because the states are now starting
00:41:14.960
to replicate the net this massive national polling you see the momentum and the argument oh well that's
00:41:21.760
okay but he still can't beat biden right he can't beat biden and and that's falling apart as you're
00:41:27.600
seeing these matchups across a wide range of polling that is not trafalgar it's not richard bearers it's
00:41:34.320
not gateway punt it's not war room these are all center left uh to centrist polls from the biggest
00:41:40.560
organizations in the world your assessment of that liz before i let you go no it's so good it's such a good
00:41:46.960
point steve and the this is so true so a kentucky poll just showed that president trump's up by 56 points
00:41:54.800
i mean these aren't close the iowa polls unless they have it you know the coral rose hole right
00:42:01.760
that's the only one that shows desantis you know even in in the same league he's not unless it's a
00:42:07.120
paid poll by the desantis people he's not anywhere close in iowa there's there's no race here i mean
00:42:14.880
and it they're trying to push this media narrative that there is because they want it they want perception
00:42:20.320
to become reality right they want to project their reality on the voters but it really isn't working
00:42:26.800
and here's why this this gets nationally this gets back this gets back completely dismantled that
00:42:34.480
there's a there's a method to their madness the reason they want to do that my point is there is
00:42:38.880
no primary we're 15 or 16 months away we must maniacally focus trump is the guy but we must maniacally
00:42:46.160
focus and they can't steal it again it gets back to the beginning of the question i asked you and
00:42:50.480
what natalie was talking about the entire focus right now shouldn't be some made up
00:42:55.680
thing with a couple of rnc donors and no offense my brother dave bossy running around with these
00:43:00.320
ridiculous ideas of these debates the entire focus should be right now on bite on trump biden or trump
00:43:08.480
whoever they put in because they i think they'll put somebody in at the end but on the mechanisms and
00:43:13.280
infrastructure to make sure it can't be stolen again and that should be our focus and that's
00:43:17.440
why the media is coming up and trying to create all this other stuff there it is a massive misdirection
00:43:21.840
play and we have to be maniacally focused on what is the task at hand and the task at hand couldn't
00:43:27.760
be clearer liz you guys are doing an incredible job i gotta tell you the prepping of the president
00:43:32.880
and then the mid-game uh report that you guys did with the president all of it was just incredible
00:43:37.680
and uh i i don't think people can give you guys a big enough hat tip because east palestine started
00:43:43.200
the pivot and then uh the cnn town hall just exploded it's just incredible the the rest of
00:43:49.840
it is it's not a race right now liz how do people get to you on social media where they where they follow
00:43:54.080
you uh at true social at real liz usa and you know all the credit goes to president trump i mean i
00:44:01.760
knew it was going to be such a good environment for him that town hall get him in a room with real
00:44:06.960
people and voters the energy there it's just unmatched people you can't help but love the guy
00:44:13.840
because he just speaks so much common sense and he's just exactly the leader we need so it was
00:44:20.480
amazing and that's a huge turning point as well he's the he's the best he's ever been no dice best
00:44:26.640
he's ever been liz harrington you're a hammer thank god you're on that campaign over there the team
00:44:32.080
they get you guys to pull together chung jason yourself uh susie others it's just incredible
00:44:38.320
thank you uh very much man for being on here thanks steve ben harnwell ben uh thank you for
00:44:45.040
staying up i'm gonna toss the ball to you the spring offensive has started a massive missile attack it
00:44:50.240
looks like and we still haven't gotten because remember in this it's all false it's tough to pick
00:44:54.560
through what's truth and what's not because both sides are lying there's a massive missile stack in
00:45:00.080
and kiev we don't know if it was destroyed the patriot missile system or if they shot down all
00:45:04.080
the missiles and the pivot at one thing we do know bakhmut now in its 11th month siege has not fallen
00:45:11.200
and it looks like uh the ukrainian military which are quite fearless may have pushed the russians
00:45:17.360
back give us your assessment as the spring offensive kicks off ben harnwell good evening see that's a
00:45:24.240
pretty uh perfect synthesis already given i'd only add that in in addition to the fact that uh according
00:45:31.200
to the ukrainians they are pushing the russians further out from bakhmut the same sources i think
00:45:38.160
that the deputy defense minister um deputy uh chief of general staff of the ukraine ukrainian forces has
00:45:46.320
admitted that the russians are actually making an entry uh and strengthening their position on the eastern
00:45:53.200
front of bakhmut so it's a bit sort of swings and roundabouts we're never really going to know uh
00:45:58.880
how this is going to play out until one side definitively wins um yeah i mean in terms of the
00:46:05.440
missiles i think uh over the last 24 hours from the evening some uh 18 missiles were rained down from
00:46:12.720
the russians over kiev um the ukrainians said that they shot down every single one of them um including
00:46:20.800
six of these hypersonic seven thousand mile per hour kinza missiles which is supposed to be
00:46:27.120
unstoppable but as you pointed out in in your introduction just now and the russians themselves
00:46:32.880
claim that that's not true one of those kinza missiles uh took out a patriot and surface uh missile
00:46:40.800
stack so both sides are hitting the the reality of the situation with their own spin and their own
00:46:48.160
propaganda i think uh the the most disconcerting thing is how the vast majority of the world's
00:46:55.360
media is yet again so happy to sort of um unthinkingly and effectively just take the ukrainian defense
00:47:04.240
ministries press releases and carry them as news that's that we're not doing here on the war room
00:47:11.600
the um and like i said it's tough to ask and one thing i can tell you there's something in
00:47:16.880
bakhmut that i think zelinski has made a and i think it's a brilliant assessment unlike the westerners
00:47:23.200
that wanted to say no focus on getting combined arms operation ready for crimea he says i got a
00:47:29.360
hold because they wanted him to give up bakhmut a while ago and he said no we're not going to do
00:47:34.000
that we're going to we're going to hang tough on bakhmut what is what is for folks about this war and
00:47:41.280
our funding of this war and the casualty rates in this war and the death of ukrainian civilians
00:47:46.560
it's not simply the media the ambassador to the us from the ukraine has been making the rounds here
00:47:53.600
in new york and talking to other foreign embassies other people in the washington post i think broke
00:47:58.960
this story today and this is why i think it's more important forever for us that in this in this uh
00:48:04.960
uh uh um debt debate to put our foot down about this she's adamant her bottom line it's very clear
00:48:14.880
that uh all russian territory all all contested territory must be turned back to the ukrainians
00:48:21.680
including crimea that the only uh the only result where they will sit down to discuss is the full
00:48:29.200
russian removal from the donbass from eastern ukraine from the crimea given your sense of
00:48:36.240
the european capitals and you're covering the news uh is that because i'm hearing from posopic and
00:48:42.000
others so people over there are just worried worried and this means a major conflict that will go on for
00:48:46.880
years and cost hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars but she's adamant and the the washington
00:48:53.760
post and new york times are backing up here ben harnwell well i mean i think what what the ukrainian
00:49:01.120
government and ambassador mark harova um included it in that they're doing is they're talking from a
00:49:07.280
unified position and that's something that you can compliment ukrainians zelensky has done very well
00:49:13.360
to make sure that all of his talking heads all of his surrogates are saying exactly uh the line that
00:49:20.640
he himself wants to hold but this is steve is fundamentally a negotiating position um it's
00:49:26.800
delirium um and they're not i don't think they're delirious uh but it would be a delirium if that were
00:49:32.960
the actual position i think it is setting up a hard line position for negotiations around which they'll
00:49:40.320
sit down and start to to talk when that comes around and that's not going to come around until the
00:49:47.920
united states says sit down and talk um because you saw when um president zelensky quite curtly and
00:49:56.000
abruptly and slammed the door in the face of the vatican on saturday to the pope who was offering to
00:50:03.440
to mediate there's only one reason and one reason alone that zelensky feels confident enough to do that
00:50:09.600
and that's because he knows that this war will continue until he says the war is going to stop and he
00:50:16.080
knows this because president uh biden has reiterated this position uh on on many many occasions and
00:50:23.520
and zelensky um has that and he will continue to fight and chew through the united states resources
00:50:31.360
until the united states administration says enough
00:50:37.920
ben how do people uh get you on social media how they find all your reporting of this all the stories
00:50:42.480
you're linking to sir thank you steve um well it's uh my ghetto account primarily and my profile there
00:50:51.040
my surname at harnwell but i'll also make a mention of of the newsletter um where i write an article
00:51:00.080
and summarizing what's going on in europe that's not on my data feed it's exclusive material and
00:51:06.400
original material for the newsletter so folks who haven't subscribed to the newsletter they need to do
00:51:11.120
that and they can do that on warroom.org and i've got an article coming out and i think in the next
00:51:15.760
edition by the way your your your exclusive content has just been extraordinary uh i did go over a
00:51:23.840
million followers on getter last night i'll make sure that i i i follow you i'll make sure i throw you
00:51:28.960
some more followers because your your site is incredible and your insights are amazing that's where
00:51:33.600
we're very very fortunate ben to have you in rome as the tip of the spear of our international coverage
00:51:41.440
thanks so much steve god bless thank you sir um
00:51:48.800
this the the the we are risking the early years of this third world war such a potential catastrophe
00:51:57.520
think about it we have never ceded to even an ally much less a nation that's not an ally in the ukraine
00:52:03.920
is not an ally uh kind of damocles sword over ourselves that with the long-range missiles from
00:52:11.280
the british uh the ukrainians maniacal focus on getting back their territory uh this thing could
00:52:17.920
metastasize an offensive capability into russia could metastasize this conflict beyond all control
00:52:25.600
and that's why this is so dangerous and quite frankly that's why the funding's got to be cut off not
00:52:29.440
just for the debt ceiling negotiations it's got to be cut off immediately okay we're gonna be back
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