Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 344： Arms Race Of The 21st Century; Rebuttal To The Existential Threat To Humanity

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:14.260 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:16.960 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:20.400 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:23.040 then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.

00:00:27.280 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:30.240 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:31.440 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:34.260 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:36.540 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:38.800 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:40.700 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.

00:00:44.640 War Room, Battleground.

00:00:46.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:50.940 Okay, welcome.

00:00:51.900 We committed this morning on the show to take this article that was in Axios.

00:00:56.380 The reason we want to take it in Axios,

00:00:58.080 that's kind of the inside baseball for the corporate media.

00:01:02.200 It's Mike Allen's kind of inside baseball newsletter for the lobbyists,

00:01:07.280 the political operatives, the Uniparty, Wall Street, all of it.

00:01:12.220 It's very good.

00:01:13.180 It gives you a great summary of what's going on.

00:01:15.540 Today, particularly, they had this article called

00:01:17.820 The Three Are the Major Existential Threats to Humankind

00:01:21.240 and talked about these great forces that kind of are underpinning

00:01:26.820 the issues in the world today and all are converging

00:01:30.620 kind of in a place and time as a major threat to humanity.

00:01:33.980 And, of course, the buried lead, they had down about the 10th paragraph

00:01:37.960 and said, this is exactly why you need really smart people now to run governments.

00:01:43.000 This being their theory of the case because they're the college-educated elites.

00:01:49.880 Remember, they're doing all this.

00:01:51.160 They're bending over backwards and trying to rewrite the Constitution 0.97

00:01:54.000 to allow the deadbeats that got all these worthless college degrees 0.97

00:01:58.880 to kind of walk away from it and leave working-class America to pay for it. 0.60

00:02:02.200 But all their implication is that they're the college-educated,

00:02:06.860 they have the advanced degrees, that MAGA and the populist movement 1.00

00:02:10.820 are a bunch of morons. 1.00

00:02:13.200 And not just that, they're dangerous morons. 1.00

00:02:15.720 And here's why they're dangerous, because the world's getting so complicated 1.00

00:02:18.620 and these major threats, these existential threats to humankind

00:02:21.800 are upon us now more than ever.

00:02:25.140 You need the elect of the college-educated and the post-graduate degrees

00:02:30.940 and the doctoral work and all that to guide us,

00:02:34.140 kind of like Plato's Guardians.

00:02:35.960 More than ever, we need the guardians, right?

00:02:38.440 So what we've done is assembled our contributors, the experts in each of them.

00:02:44.060 Axios laid out that it was climate change, artificial intelligence,

00:02:47.860 and nuclear weapons that were the three big current going to overwhelm humanity.

00:02:52.760 So we've brought in our contributors to kind of go and deconstruct that

00:02:57.000 and talk about what's reality and what's not.

00:03:00.860 And I really appreciate them pulling this together,

00:03:03.180 because Axios just printed the thing early this morning.

00:03:06.800 Let's go ahead. We've got a cold open.

00:03:08.160 I'm going to start with artificial intelligence, go to climate change,

00:03:10.640 then finish with our experts on nuclear weapons.

00:03:13.100 Let's start. We've got a cold open for the one and only Joe Allen.

00:03:17.260 Let's go ahead and let it rip.

00:03:18.040 AI, as we all know, is the study of how to make machines intelligent.

00:03:24.200 Its stated goal is general-purpose artificial intelligence,

00:03:27.940 sometimes called AGI or artificial general intelligence,

00:03:32.260 machines that match or exceed human capabilities in every relevant dimension.

00:03:37.300 The last 80 years have seen a lot of progress towards that goal.

00:03:43.240 For most of that time, we created systems whose internal operations we understood,

00:03:49.000 drawing on centuries of work in mathematics, statistics, philosophy, and operations research.

00:03:55.500 Over the last decade, that has changed.

00:03:59.080 Beginning with vision and speech recognition and now with language,

00:04:01.960 the dominant approach has been end-to-end training of circuits

00:04:05.340 with billions or trillions of adjustable parameters.

00:04:09.320 The success of these systems is undeniable,

00:04:12.140 but their internal principles of operation remain a mystery.

00:04:16.820 This is particularly true for the large language models, or LLMs, such as ChatGPT.

00:04:22.560 Many researchers now see AGI on the horizon.

00:04:28.720 In my view, LLMs do not constitute AGI, but they are a piece of the puzzle.

00:04:34.460 We're not sure what shape the piece is yet or how it fits into the puzzle,

00:04:38.880 but the field is working hard on those questions and progress is rapid.

00:04:43.300 Alan Turing, the founder of computer science, warned in 1951

00:04:47.740 that once AI outstrips our feeble powers,

00:04:51.900 we should have to expect the machines to take control.

00:04:56.480 We have pretty much completely ignored this warning.

00:05:01.480 This committee has discussed ideas such as third-party testing, licensing,

00:05:06.380 national agency, and international coordinating body,

00:05:09.980 all of which I support.

00:05:12.580 Here are some more ways to, as it said, move fast and fix things.

00:05:18.740 First, an absolute right to know if one is interacting with a person or a machine.

00:05:24.360 Second, no algorithms that can decide to kill human beings,

00:05:29.580 particularly when attached to nuclear weapons.

00:05:33.100 Third, a kill switch that must be activated

00:05:35.880 if systems break into other computers or replicate themselves.

00:05:41.180 Fourth, go beyond the voluntary steps announced last Friday.

00:05:44.860 Systems that break the rules must be recalled from the market

00:05:49.480 for anything from defaming real individuals

00:05:52.460 to helping terrorists build biological weapons.

00:05:55.620 Joe Allen, very disturbing.

00:06:02.460 That's from congressional testimony from, what, a week or so ago.

00:06:05.100 Walk me through who that was, what he said, why is it important?

00:06:08.860 Steve, that was Stuart Russell.

00:06:13.280 He is involved with the Future of Life Institute,

00:06:17.380 an institute we've covered a lot.

00:06:19.620 They were actually the organization that drafted the open letter

00:06:24.820 requesting a halt on artificial intelligence development above the level of GPT-4.

00:06:30.360 They also drafted an open letter back in 2014-15

00:06:37.020 in which they urged a complete ban on artificial intelligence-based lethal autonomous weapons,

00:06:47.340 so drone swarms that can decide to attack and kill on their own.

00:06:51.260 Something really important to remember about the Future of Life Institute

00:06:54.380 is that they are, by and large, composed of transhumanists

00:06:58.200 or quasi-transhumanists, they, as you heard Stuart Russell talking about,

00:07:03.160 hope to create a superhuman artificial intelligence god.

00:07:07.740 And what you hear, this hearing was actually quite a bit more interesting in many ways than the last.

00:07:13.320 I think much more substantial information

00:07:16.360 and also much more substantial proposals on how to deal with something like this.

00:07:21.420 And especially, I must say, as usual,

00:07:25.460 Josh Hawley really stood out as being very informed

00:07:28.860 and was very open to recognizing the potential dystopian elements of all this.

00:07:34.780 That being said, the problems that they're highlighting,

00:07:38.900 there's really three that are of real import to my mind.

00:07:43.200 The first being, as you heard there,

00:07:45.900 the notion that you don't know whether you're interacting with a human being

00:07:50.400 on the other end of the screen.

00:07:52.200 I think that's going to be a real problem going forward.

00:07:55.120 It already is now.

00:07:56.740 The artificial intelligence is definitely good enough

00:07:59.560 to fool somebody with, say, an IQ of 110 below.

00:08:04.780 And so, really, oftentimes, people don't know

00:08:08.020 if they're talking to a person on social media.

00:08:10.600 If it's that good, how would you know without some kind of verification?

00:08:14.160 And that's where verification systems like the WorldCoin that we covered yesterday

00:08:19.520 and other verification systems, like something that would be in the same vein,

00:08:24.280 biometric identification, tying your body to a digital identity to prove that you're human.

00:08:30.820 So, it could actually cause as many problems trying to solve this problem,

00:08:35.300 such as having some sort of mandated biometric ID

00:08:38.080 in order to get onto the Internet or anything else.

00:08:41.180 The second one, though, Steve, you know, that he also mentioned,

00:08:44.600 that lethal autonomous weapons, you have people like ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt,

00:08:49.620 who chaired the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence back in 2001.

00:08:56.160 And he is really, really pushing for using lethal autonomous weapons.

00:09:02.440 He believes that as other nations develop them, it will be imperative for the U.S.

00:09:07.560 to keep up that we have weapons that can decide to kill

00:09:11.040 because they would be able to react much faster than any human being would.

00:09:16.220 And just to generalize, he believes that human beings would not win a war

00:09:22.160 in which artificial intelligence was behind the kill switch, so to speak,

00:09:26.600 or the red button to either launch a missile or a drone attack or anything like that.

00:09:33.600 And so, that's also very, very disturbing.

00:09:35.520 It's a big decision that's going to have to be made.

00:09:37.440 Do you allow machines to make the decision to kill or not?

00:09:41.160 We heard Mark Andreessen arguing that that should be the only system able to kill

00:09:47.060 because human beings are so faulty and so slow.

00:09:49.780 And he is a very respected intellectual in the realm of technology.

00:09:53.840 It wouldn't surprise me if he showed up at one of these hearings to testify.

00:09:57.400 So, to me, I think that's a very, very dangerous move to even have them at all,

00:10:02.400 let alone to have an attitude that human beings should not be responsible

00:10:06.040 for life or death decisions on the battlefield and that machines should.

00:10:09.920 And last but not least, of course, the idea of artificial general intelligence,

00:10:14.060 sort of AI god that the prophets of transhumanism are predicting.

00:10:19.960 And that's one that there's literally no way to know whether the technology has capped out

00:10:26.300 basically right here or if the most aggressive predictions like Elon Musk

00:10:30.440 and some of the others who spoke there at the hearing that artificial general intelligence,

00:10:35.180 the superhuman general purpose AGI could be literally right around the corner next five, seven years.

00:10:42.060 And you also don't know that you could easily have a corporation that claims that they have AGI

00:10:47.940 or something like AGI and be able to wield enormous amounts of influence and power

00:10:53.220 just on the mythology alone.

00:10:54.880 I think that this is probably the most shattering, both on just a philosophical level,

00:10:59.020 political level, economic level, and, of course, a theological level.

00:11:02.320 If you have a company like Google or OpenAI who claims to have brought into existence

00:11:08.320 either a conscious or at least a hyper-intelligent being that is not human,

00:11:13.880 a sort of alien life form, that really does change the game

00:11:17.260 as far as how we talk about what it means to be human

00:11:20.080 and what it means to really have rights in a society.

00:11:23.380 You have all these people like Dalton Ispon, Martine Rothblatt,

00:11:26.320 pushing for robo-rights already.

00:11:30.080 So I think that Steve, it was very – I think listening to Josh Howley

00:11:34.300 and even Richard Blumenthal, Amy Klobuchar, I think that they have definitely shown

00:11:38.780 that they've done their homework and they're on top of this

00:11:41.740 as much as one could be on top of something so unpredictable.

00:11:44.900 At the same time, we have a lot of chaos on the horizon,

00:11:48.440 especially in regards to the election of 2024,

00:11:51.640 if these deepfakes really do proliferate, as they say.

00:11:59.140 But, RZ, the deepfakes, don't get me wrong, are going to be bad, 1.00

00:12:02.540 and this is one of the whole things about machines in elections

00:12:05.280 and connectivity to the net about artificial intelligence

00:12:09.280 takes that to the whole next level.

00:12:11.500 But back to this, you know, Mike Allen had this piece,

00:12:16.720 Axios had this piece, and it's kind of ironic in that

00:12:19.760 their corporate clients, the uniparty, the corporatist uniparty

00:12:24.120 that runs our nation, has had no problem in this race

00:12:29.240 to develop AI with kind of a devil catch the hindmost

00:12:33.620 or no controls whatsoever, kind of this bizarrely libertarian approach.

00:12:38.320 Esper the other day, and this is what I think it's semaphore,

00:12:41.020 had about his interview with the New York Times,

00:12:44.420 or this piece he did in the New York Times.

00:12:46.600 Esper, the former Secretary of Defense, you know,

00:12:48.620 the one with President Trump that I actually said

00:12:51.240 was a guy that you could tell with Milley

00:12:53.540 kind of tried to lead a coup against Trump,

00:12:56.480 that he's sitting there going, there's an outright arms race,

00:12:58.920 that the 21st century is going to be defined by the arms race 0.85

00:13:02.320 that is more intense than the arms race you see in the movie Oppenheimer

00:13:06.840 about who's going to get the nuclear weapons first,

00:13:10.400 the Nazis are ourselves, or then the Russians are ourselves

00:13:13.500 with the hydrogen bomb, that you've got this arms race right now,

00:13:17.660 that will define the 21st century, and there's nothing that can stop that,

00:13:20.680 that that is ongoing.

00:13:22.900 What struck me about these hearings, even as good as Josh Hawley

00:13:25.880 and these guys were, you're talking about some pretty modest things,

00:13:31.500 and nobody even came close to talking about a kill switch

00:13:35.220 that actually could knock the whole thing down,

00:13:36.780 or that you would have, how would you actually get some agreement,

00:13:41.380 some treaty or some agreement that you wouldn't,

00:13:44.480 that no one would ever program an algorithm

00:13:46.440 into the machine itself where you could kill humans?

00:13:50.080 The granularity on actual solutions

00:13:53.980 was at a very general, although very scary,

00:13:59.740 here's what we need to do,

00:14:00.900 there seemed to be no backup whatsoever.

00:14:03.040 Your thoughts on that, sir?

00:14:05.980 Yeah, I've long said, and I still stand behind it for now

00:14:09.980 until things get better,

00:14:11.920 I don't see a lot of solid political solutions

00:14:14.800 to the problem of runaway technology.

00:14:17.220 Let's say that you put in regulation

00:14:18.940 to halt the development of artificial intelligence

00:14:21.820 up to a certain level in the U.S.

00:14:23.860 These companies already have labs overseas,

00:14:26.440 and it's pretty much inevitable

00:14:27.880 that they would go overseas and develop them there,

00:14:30.400 and of course that country would be the one

00:14:32.020 to hold the sort of fabled ring of power, so to speak.

00:14:35.640 You could also have an agency that checked for safety,

00:14:39.620 and I think that that's good, something.

00:14:41.860 Josh Hawley really pushed the concept of data privacy,

00:14:45.060 and that's something that's really needed to be put in place

00:14:46.940 for a long time anyway in the U.S.

00:14:48.760 That's also good.

00:14:49.920 It means that AI is not raking your personality over

00:14:52.320 every second of every day,

00:14:53.760 nor are just the general algorithms that are used by Google,

00:14:57.340 not without your permission anyway.

00:14:59.340 And so that would be an excellent move forward.

00:15:02.580 But all of these different technologies,

00:15:04.260 I mean, you know, one thing that I cover in my book

00:15:06.200 and what we've covered here for the last two and a half years

00:15:08.860 is that this is an enormous field of technological systems

00:15:13.400 on top of technological systems on top of systems,

00:15:16.480 and all of them really do have the potential

00:15:19.340 for social control, top-down social control,

00:15:22.640 or social disruption from a sort of distributed array of actors.

00:15:26.760 And so the chaos of the ongoing technological revolution

00:15:31.860 that we're living in, the so-called fourth industrial revolution,

00:15:35.320 I don't see any solid political solutions for it.

00:15:39.060 In many ways, I think the real solutions

00:15:41.000 are people bracing themselves for it,

00:15:43.800 educating themselves about what the possibilities are,

00:15:47.100 and those sorts of preparations

00:15:50.260 to basically confront a future

00:15:53.220 in which you will have, without a doubt,

00:15:56.480 what Artie and Polo calls the cyborg theocracy.

00:15:59.780 You will have a culture

00:16:01.860 which literally holds technology up

00:16:06.160 as being godlike entities,

00:16:08.600 and everything that descends down from that,

00:16:10.520 such as robotics, brain-computer interfaces,

00:16:13.480 especially the non-invasive brain-computer interfaces

00:16:16.780 that don't take,

00:16:17.960 you don't have to chip yourself,

00:16:19.080 you just simply put a cap on

00:16:20.880 and begin to kind of commune with the machine.

00:16:23.680 That is already here,

00:16:25.040 and the development of that,

00:16:26.220 I think, is also very much inevitable.

00:16:28.340 This is all not to mention

00:16:29.820 the various sorts of biological alterations

00:16:32.800 that are already on the market,

00:16:34.180 and in the next, say, 10 years,

00:16:36.220 are going to probably undoubtedly develop

00:16:39.020 in a direction where you will have the possibility

00:16:41.600 for, say, direct gene-edited designer babies.

00:16:44.620 So, I think that even if in the U.S. we say no on everything,

00:16:49.380 we just go full Luddite,

00:16:50.780 other countries will race forward.

00:16:52.740 So, and if we say yes,

00:16:53.960 then obviously we're going to be at the center of that

00:16:56.120 because we have the best technology in the U.S.,

00:16:59.100 without a doubt,

00:16:59.860 whether it's artificial intelligence

00:17:01.180 or the infrastructure that supports crazy,

00:17:05.500 like radical biological alterations,

00:17:08.480 including on the military end.

00:17:10.720 So, yes, Steve, I think it's good

00:17:13.800 that it's being talked about in Washington,

00:17:15.560 and I think that there can at least be

00:17:17.200 some mitigation of damage and confusion,

00:17:20.580 but I also think that there's the real possibility

00:17:22.940 that something like mandated biometric identification

00:17:26.480 to verify your humanness on the Internet

00:17:28.980 really opens the doors to a lot of much worse problems,

00:17:32.840 really, than the mass confusion

00:17:34.600 of not knowing if you're speaking to a bot online.

00:17:36.760 So, it's, like I say,

00:17:38.960 I think especially going into 2024 and beyond,

00:17:43.260 the best route is to brace yourself

00:17:46.680 and you don't have to disappear into a cave,

00:17:49.780 but I think some degree of survivalism

00:17:51.860 and independence on the part of MAGA

00:17:54.620 or anyone else, really any human being,

00:17:56.580 will be in order.

00:17:57.820 Don't be so quick on that.

00:18:00.800 Dark Aeon, of course,

00:18:02.580 you use the Cambridge pronunciations

00:18:04.500 because you're so proper.

00:18:06.260 Dark Aeon, the book,

00:18:07.780 if I can get the cover-up,

00:18:08.760 the guys in Memphis,

00:18:09.860 this book is out on the 29th, I think, of August.

00:18:13.240 It is really an incredible work.

00:18:16.800 I think it was 400 or 500 pages,

00:18:18.660 but you're going to get a,

00:18:19.560 if you dive into this and grasp it

00:18:21.960 and hang with the argument

00:18:23.220 and work your way through it,

00:18:25.480 and I understand it's not easy

00:18:26.440 getting into a 500-page book,

00:18:29.580 it's incredible.

00:18:31.620 Can Memphis put up the,

00:18:32.640 can we get the cover?

00:18:33.340 Give me a minute on the book

00:18:37.180 and why people should,

00:18:38.100 I want you to hang around, too.

00:18:39.060 I'm going to actually flip the order

00:18:41.600 we're going to do it.

00:18:42.000 I'm going to do nuclear weapons next 0.98

00:18:43.420 because AI has a direct impact on that.

00:18:46.440 Walk me through the book.

00:18:50.620 Well, Steve, fortunately,

00:18:52.380 it is long.

00:18:53.080 As far as the written text itself,

00:18:55.100 my text,

00:18:55.840 that's almost exactly 400 pages,

00:18:58.680 but it's 13 chapters

00:18:59.960 that I've written in a way

00:19:01.240 one builds onto the deck,

00:19:03.340 each one leads to the next,

00:19:05.760 but it's the sort of book

00:19:06.700 that you can literally flip

00:19:07.760 through any chapter,

00:19:09.300 and they stand on their own

00:19:10.880 just given whatever interest you have.

00:19:12.840 Maybe your interest is

00:19:14.080 in the dangers of artificial intelligence.

00:19:16.040 Maybe your interest is in

00:19:17.620 radical life extension,

00:19:20.180 radical biological alterations.

00:19:21.600 Maybe your interest is in the evolutionary underpinning

00:19:25.400 that really sustains the philosophy

00:19:28.840 of transhumanism.

00:19:30.560 So whatever topic takes your interest,

00:19:32.420 you can easily just flip to that,

00:19:34.600 and it doesn't require you

00:19:36.940 to start on page one

00:19:38.160 and get to page 400.

00:19:39.600 However,

00:19:40.360 obviously,

00:19:40.940 I hope that people will,

00:19:42.520 and I've made every effort

00:19:44.640 to make it as comprehensive

00:19:45.960 and as accessible as possible,

00:19:48.380 and maybe even with a joke or two

00:19:49.760 here and there

00:19:50.240 to keep you laughing

00:19:51.460 as you hurtle your way

00:19:52.780 towards the apocalypse.

00:19:54.320 And at the end,

00:19:55.440 I give my own modest proposals

00:19:58.640 for solutions.

00:20:00.520 I think that most of them

00:20:02.360 will be non-political.

00:20:04.040 I don't want too much

00:20:07.620 of a spoiler alert,

00:20:08.620 but go get Dark Aeon today

00:20:11.120 at Amazon.

00:20:13.420 Let's drive this book

00:20:14.200 to be a New York Times bestseller.

00:20:15.540 Just hang on for one second.

00:20:16.860 I'm going to keep you around,

00:20:17.760 Joe Allen.

00:20:18.860 Let's start.

00:20:19.300 Ben Hardwell,

00:20:20.140 nuclear weapons.

00:20:22.520 Our favorite senator,

00:20:23.540 Lindsey Graham,

00:20:24.640 and I want you to address this

00:20:26.080 since you've been closest to it.

00:20:27.840 He just announced

00:20:28.800 this bizarre thing

00:20:30.240 that if Russia hits,

00:20:32.700 by the way,

00:20:34.760 the loose talk in Russia

00:20:35.720 about using nuclear weapons

00:20:36.960 to defend Crimea

00:20:37.820 and the Donbass

00:20:38.540 is also totally inappropriate

00:20:40.040 and wrong.

00:20:41.600 And there's been some loose talk

00:20:43.960 about that here

00:20:44.480 over the last couple of days.

00:20:45.360 But Lindsey Graham comes out 1.00

00:20:46.320 about that loose talk

00:20:47.380 and says

00:20:48.640 a nuclear strike on Ukraine

00:20:51.740 is a nuclear strike on NATO.

00:20:54.600 They talk about

00:20:55.280 nuclear weapons being existential.

00:20:57.580 We haven't used them

00:20:58.400 since August of 1945.

00:21:01.460 Right?

00:21:01.900 It's only been used twice.

00:21:04.200 Why is Lindsey Graham 0.99

00:21:05.580 trying to broaden out

00:21:06.740 this conflict right now,

00:21:07.960 sir,

00:21:08.180 about this threat

00:21:09.380 of nuclear weapons?

00:21:12.420 Good afternoon, Steve.

00:21:13.820 Well, I think the answer

00:21:14.600 to that,

00:21:15.120 I don't want to be cynical,

00:21:16.800 but the straightforward answer

00:21:18.200 to that question

00:21:18.900 would seem to be

00:21:19.880 because Lindsey Graham

00:21:21.100 is a well-known stooge

00:21:23.420 of the military-industrial complex.

00:21:26.600 and therefore

00:21:28.060 any potential

00:21:29.360 opportunity

00:21:31.580 to escalate

00:21:33.460 is going to be something

00:21:34.600 which he will intervene in

00:21:36.360 to escalate.

00:21:37.220 And that's exactly

00:21:37.800 what he's done

00:21:38.720 right to right

00:21:39.620 with his political career.

00:21:40.940 It's just

00:21:41.700 the argument

00:21:43.280 in itself

00:21:43.920 as you laid out

00:21:44.940 is astounding

00:21:46.160 because obviously

00:21:46.880 famously,

00:21:47.880 famously

00:21:48.420 Ukraine

00:21:49.280 isn't a member

00:21:51.360 of NATO.

00:21:52.200 His argument,

00:21:52.880 I mean,

00:21:53.040 I don't want to say

00:21:53.540 it's more subtle

00:21:54.200 because it's not particularly,

00:21:55.620 but the

00:21:56.100 argument he uses

00:21:58.740 is that

00:21:59.140 the use of

00:22:00.340 tactical nuclear weapons

00:22:02.460 on Ukraine

00:22:03.160 would mean

00:22:04.100 radiation

00:22:04.960 would spread

00:22:06.180 outside of the territory

00:22:07.840 of Ukraine

00:22:09.600 into that

00:22:10.680 of neighboring countries

00:22:12.340 which are NATO members

00:22:13.780 and therefore

00:22:14.940 it would be

00:22:16.040 it would be

00:22:17.500 able to consider

00:22:18.540 that

00:22:18.840 an attack directly

00:22:20.080 on those other

00:22:20.960 NATO countries

00:22:22.180 in which case

00:22:23.420 the United States

00:22:26.160 will be able

00:22:27.020 to respond

00:22:28.100 in kind.

00:22:30.100 I think it's

00:22:30.720 I think it's

00:22:31.340 astonishing intervention

00:22:32.580 Steve

00:22:33.220 considering where we are

00:22:34.380 in this war.

00:22:35.780 But it goes

00:22:36.500 I think

00:22:37.300 to underline

00:22:38.840 one point here

00:22:39.800 is that

00:22:40.140 if you want

00:22:42.760 to de-escalate

00:22:43.800 this war

00:22:44.560 political pressure

00:22:46.400 needs to be put

00:22:47.060 on these people

00:22:47.900 our representatives

00:22:49.200 in the West

00:22:50.260 to negotiate

00:22:51.720 rather than

00:22:52.520 to escalate.

00:22:54.880 I mean

00:22:55.080 under a certain

00:22:56.440 optic

00:22:57.600 escalation

00:22:58.780 is something

00:22:59.520 that might

00:23:00.540 force

00:23:01.540 Vladimir Putin

00:23:03.080 to step down

00:23:04.320 to back down

00:23:05.880 and retreat

00:23:06.680 it's entirely

00:23:07.240 possible

00:23:07.720 it doesn't

00:23:08.260 seem

00:23:08.460 a very sensible

00:23:09.300 strategy

00:23:10.800 given what's

00:23:11.680 at stake

00:23:12.100 the better

00:23:12.580 the more secure

00:23:14.340 approach

00:23:14.700 is obviously

00:23:15.240 for de-escalation

00:23:17.520 is for negotiation

00:23:18.660 and to encourage

00:23:19.800 both parties

00:23:21.420 give them

00:23:21.780 every support 1.00

00:23:22.500 to trash

00:23:23.300 their differences

00:23:24.080 out at the

00:23:25.020 negotiating table

00:23:26.020 and give them

00:23:27.360 every support

00:23:27.880 to do so.

00:23:28.480 since Mike

00:23:31.240 Allen

00:23:31.720 and Axios

00:23:32.580 have been

00:23:32.860 one of the

00:23:33.160 drivers

00:23:33.540 of arm

00:23:35.340 Ukraine

00:23:35.860 and continue

00:23:36.280 to fight

00:23:36.680 they are

00:23:38.160 clearly in the

00:23:38.760 escalation

00:23:39.420 not negotiation

00:23:40.340 camp

00:23:40.740 where the war room

00:23:41.940 is in the

00:23:42.320 negotiate

00:23:42.860 not escalate

00:23:43.680 isn't it ironic

00:23:45.140 that they put

00:23:45.680 in nuclear

00:23:46.080 weapons

00:23:46.580 as this

00:23:47.600 existential threat

00:23:48.520 to humanity

00:23:49.220 since where

00:23:50.280 that is

00:23:50.740 where we're

00:23:51.920 the closest

00:23:52.560 to having

00:23:52.940 that happen

00:23:53.460 since 1945

00:23:54.280 is right now

00:23:55.280 in this

00:23:56.200 Ukraine war

00:23:57.060 did you not

00:23:57.560 find that

00:23:58.000 ironic

00:23:58.980 that they put

00:23:59.640 that in

00:23:59.960 their piece

00:24:00.400 that the

00:24:01.360 proliferation

00:24:02.160 of nuclear

00:24:03.000 warfare

00:24:03.420 is something

00:24:04.360 that they've

00:24:04.800 been driving

00:24:05.300 Steve

00:24:07.000 ironic

00:24:07.640 is the

00:24:08.040 perfect word

00:24:08.620 that is

00:24:08.940 exactly

00:24:09.400 what it is

00:24:10.240 it's almost

00:24:11.220 poetic

00:24:11.760 that conjunction

00:24:12.860 you know

00:24:13.480 it might be

00:24:15.560 worth just

00:24:16.100 stressing one

00:24:17.160 point

00:24:17.540 and I don't

00:24:18.320 know

00:24:18.500 I certainly

00:24:19.840 haven't had a

00:24:20.480 chance to do

00:24:21.040 this on the

00:24:21.520 warm

00:24:21.640 I don't know

00:24:22.100 if any other

00:24:22.840 contributor

00:24:23.720 has since

00:24:25.000 this war

00:24:25.740 started

00:24:26.160 but let's

00:24:26.920 just take

00:24:27.580 a moment

00:24:28.160 just 10

00:24:29.620 seconds

00:24:30.100 to remind

00:24:31.480 ourselves

00:24:31.980 what

00:24:32.740 article 5

00:24:34.640 of NATO

00:24:35.500 the North

00:24:36.820 Atlantic Treaty

00:24:37.700 actually empowers

00:24:39.360 its members

00:24:40.020 to do

00:24:40.420 it sets up

00:24:41.220 the famous

00:24:42.320 principle

00:24:42.700 that attack 0.71

00:24:43.420 against one

00:24:44.040 NATO member

00:24:45.220 is attack

00:24:45.600 against all

00:24:46.180 and then

00:24:46.860 gives them

00:24:47.500 each country

00:24:48.200 NATO member

00:24:49.180 at their

00:24:49.740 own discretion

00:24:50.780 the legal

00:24:52.480 authority

00:24:54.000 if you will

00:24:54.780 to then

00:24:55.560 participate

00:24:56.160 in a war

00:24:57.040 according to

00:24:57.660 its own

00:24:58.060 choosing

00:24:58.560 its modality

00:24:59.580 of its own

00:25:00.060 choosing

00:25:00.360 in defence

00:25:01.100 of its

00:25:01.460 NATO ally

00:25:02.120 that's

00:25:02.680 important

00:25:03.080 because

00:25:03.420 without

00:25:03.700 that legal

00:25:04.640 instrument

00:25:05.160 it could

00:25:05.960 potentially

00:25:06.640 be a case

00:25:07.240 that we

00:25:07.520 would end

00:25:07.780 up with

00:25:08.220 future

00:25:08.820 Nuremberg

00:25:09.860 type trials

00:25:10.660 where the

00:25:11.040 primary

00:25:11.580 charges

00:25:12.420 back in

00:25:13.680 Nuremberg

00:25:14.080 wasn't

00:25:14.680 the

00:25:15.200 holocaust 0.90

00:25:16.140 it was

00:25:17.180 the conspiracy

00:25:18.120 towards

00:25:19.900 aggression

00:25:20.660 so the

00:25:21.400 NATO

00:25:21.820 treaty

00:25:22.880 in and of

00:25:23.360 itself

00:25:23.680 it protects

00:25:24.580 NATO

00:25:25.860 allies

00:25:26.380 in order

00:25:26.720 to come

00:25:27.260 even though

00:25:27.700 they haven't

00:25:28.020 been directly

00:25:28.640 attacked

00:25:29.500 themselves

00:25:29.880 they can

00:25:30.420 come to

00:25:30.800 that

00:25:30.960 member's

00:25:31.440 defence

00:25:31.960 steve

00:25:32.660 the

00:25:33.320 important

00:25:33.660 thing

00:25:33.840 here

00:25:34.000 is

00:25:34.080 article

00:25:34.600 5

00:25:35.140 that

00:25:36.680 gives

00:25:37.040 to

00:25:37.240 each

00:25:37.840 nation

00:25:38.760 the

00:25:39.040 right

00:25:40.460 to

00:25:40.700 choose

00:25:41.180 how

00:25:41.740 it

00:25:41.920 wants

00:25:42.180 to

00:25:42.340 respond

00:25:42.780 to

00:25:43.120 that

00:25:43.700 aggression

00:25:44.180 of

00:25:44.440 its

00:25:44.580 ally

00:25:44.840 conceivably

00:25:46.920 conceivably

00:25:48.060 that could 0.68

00:25:49.760 simply be

00:25:50.700 the US

00:25:51.920 congress

00:25:52.280 sending a

00:25:52.920 sharply

00:25:53.220 worded

00:25:53.780 press

00:25:54.180 release

00:25:54.540 and then

00:25:55.160 America

00:25:55.500 will say

00:25:55.740 well we

00:25:56.060 think

00:25:56.380 we have

00:25:56.820 made

00:25:57.000 the most

00:25:57.300 appropriate

00:25:57.700 response

00:25:58.220 of

00:25:58.380 that

00:25:58.580 and

00:25:59.060 that

00:25:59.280 is

00:25:59.440 it

00:25:59.660 it

00:26:00.040 doesn't

00:26:00.360 oblige

00:26:01.460 military

00:26:02.540 article 5

00:26:04.160 does not

00:26:04.600 oblige

00:26:05.440 a military

00:26:06.860 response

00:26:07.560 and of

00:26:07.940 course

00:26:08.060 in

00:26:08.740 America's

00:26:09.500 case

00:26:09.620 you have

00:26:09.880 the

00:26:10.040 constitution

00:26:10.700 NATO

00:26:11.340 membership

00:26:11.720 doesn't

00:26:12.040 override

00:26:12.500 that

00:26:12.740 constitution

00:26:13.360 and

00:26:14.200 congress

00:26:15.280 still

00:26:15.780 has

00:26:16.120 to

00:26:16.420 agree

00:26:17.280 to

00:26:17.880 the

00:26:18.520 declaration

00:26:20.180 of war

00:26:20.720 yes

00:26:21.100 you would

00:26:22.620 think

00:26:22.800 they don't

00:26:23.200 even

00:26:23.380 force

00:26:23.680 but

00:26:24.020 hang on

00:26:25.100 we're

00:26:25.300 going to

00:26:25.460 go to

00:26:25.660 break

00:26:25.900 we're

00:26:26.160 short

00:26:26.640 break

00:26:26.940 we're

00:26:27.800 going to

00:26:27.960 come

00:26:28.100 back

00:26:28.420 I

00:26:28.600 got

00:26:28.760 Colonel

00:26:29.040 Mills

00:26:29.340 we got

00:26:29.740 Harnwell

00:26:30.260 we got

00:26:31.040 Joe

00:26:31.440 Allen

00:26:31.660 we'll

00:26:31.800 talk

00:26:31.980 about

00:26:32.140 the

00:26:32.320 dangers

00:26:32.700 of

00:26:32.900 AI

00:26:33.300 plus

00:26:34.260 this

00:26:34.960 is

00:26:35.100 supposed

00:26:35.380 to

00:26:35.500 be

00:26:35.600 the

00:26:35.760 world's

00:26:36.100 boiling

00:26:36.480 it's

00:26:37.520 no

00:26:37.680 longer

00:26:38.080 it's

00:26:38.440 no

00:26:38.600 longer

00:26:38.900 climate

00:26:39.300 change

00:26:39.840 it's

00:26:40.040 no

00:26:40.160 longer

00:26:40.380 global

00:26:40.700 warming

00:26:41.200 it's

00:26:41.420 global

00:26:41.700 burling

00:26:42.500 we've

00:26:44.100 got our

00:26:44.340 own

00:26:44.500 Dave

00:26:44.760 Walsh

00:26:45.060 on

00:26:45.180 here

00:26:45.440 to

00:26:45.860 walk

00:26:46.120 you

00:26:46.260 through

00:26:46.420 the

00:26:46.620 mathematics

00:26:47.160 of

00:26:47.440 all

00:26:47.600 that

00:26:47.800 okay

00:26:48.080 short

00:26:48.360 commercial

00:26:48.720 break

00:26:49.040 we're

00:26:49.180 return

00:26:49.540 with

00:26:49.780 Axios

00:26:50.480 existential

00:26:51.980 threat

00:26:52.500 to

00:26:52.700 humanity

00:26:53.260 the

00:26:54.620 rebuttal

00:26:55.100 in

00:26:55.740 the

00:26:55.860 war

00:26:56.040 we

00:26:59.660 are

00:26:59.800 days

00:27:00.100 away

00:27:00.420 from

00:27:00.620 the

00:27:00.780 Durban

00:27:01.080 Accords

00:27:01.600 the

00:27:02.280 greatest

00:27:02.600 threat

00:27:02.960 to

00:27:03.300 the

00:27:03.440 United

00:27:03.640 States

00:27:03.980 dollars

00:27:04.420 global

00:27:05.060 dominance

00:27:05.580 in

00:27:05.920 the

00:27:06.060 past

00:27:06.480 80

00:27:06.800 years

00:27:07.200 on

00:27:08.060 August

00:27:08.360 22nd

00:27:09.160 BRICS 0.99

00:27:09.580 nations

00:27:10.020 Brazil

00:27:10.640 Russia

00:27:11.080 India

00:27:11.480 China

00:27:11.920 and

00:27:12.280 South

00:27:12.540 Africa

00:27:12.940 are

00:27:13.720 expected

00:27:14.100 to

00:27:14.320 announce

00:27:14.660 the

00:27:14.880 launch

00:27:15.140 of

00:27:15.340 a

00:27:15.480 new

00:27:15.740 international

00:27:16.540 super

00:27:17.220 currency

00:27:17.620 fully

00:27:18.120 backed

00:27:18.560 by

00:27:18.820 gold

00:27:19.260 or

00:27:19.920 other

00:27:20.200 commodities

00:27:20.700 this

00:27:21.780 is

00:27:21.940 part

00:27:22.220 of

00:27:22.400 their

00:27:22.540 long

00:27:22.800 term

00:27:22.980 plan

00:27:23.300 to

00:27:23.480 supplant

00:27:23.880 the

00:27:24.040 United

00:27:24.280 States

00:27:24.640 and

00:27:24.980 the

00:27:25.120 dollar

00:27:25.440 as

00:27:26.020 the

00:27:26.160 cornerstones

00:27:26.700 of

00:27:26.860 the

00:27:26.960 global

00:27:27.200 financial

00:27:27.600 system

00:27:28.100 how

00:27:28.920 can

00:27:29.080 you

00:27:29.220 protect

00:27:29.600 your

00:27:29.780 IRA

00:27:30.160 or

00:27:30.400 401k

00:27:31.040 from

00:27:31.280 the

00:27:31.440 fallout

00:27:31.820 from

00:27:32.000 this

00:27:32.180 landmark

00:27:32.520 announcement

00:27:33.040 diversify

00:27:34.260 with

00:27:34.540 gold

00:27:35.140 from

00:27:35.400 Birch 0.92

00:27:35.740 Gold

00:27:36.000 Group

00:27:36.340 historically

00:27:37.160 gold

00:27:37.680 has

00:27:38.140 been

00:27:38.280 a

00:27:38.460 safe

00:27:38.740 haven

00:27:39.100 in

00:27:39.400 times

00:27:39.760 of

00:27:39.920 high

00:27:40.140 uncertainty

00:27:40.580 which

00:27:41.300 is

00:27:41.460 right

00:27:41.680 now

00:27:42.000 get

00:27:42.840 a

00:27:42.960 free

00:27:43.140 info

00:27:43.440 kit

00:27:43.720 on

00:27:43.900 gold

00:27:44.160 IRAs 0.99

00:27:44.640 and

00:27:44.740 decide

00:27:45.060 for

00:27:45.200 yourself

00:27:45.520 if

00:27:45.760 a

00:27:45.920 tax

00:27:46.220 sheltered

00:27:46.660 retirement

00:27:47.060 account

00:27:47.500 backed

00:27:48.080 by

00:27:48.300 physical

00:27:48.960 precious

00:27:49.560 metals

00:27:49.980 is

00:27:50.220 right

00:27:50.420 for

00:27:50.560 you

00:27:50.800 text

00:27:51.520 the

00:27:51.700 word

00:27:51.920 Bannon

00:27:52.260 to

00:27:53.720 989898

00:27:55.180 this

00:27:56.160 is a

00:27:56.820 monumental

00:27:57.240 shift

00:27:57.840 happening

00:27:58.880 among

00:27:59.400 nations

00:27:59.820 that

00:28:00.020 control

00:28:00.360 one

00:28:00.800 third

00:28:01.180 of

00:28:01.320 the

00:28:01.400 world's

00:28:01.720 GDP

00:28:02.060 and

00:28:02.980 it

00:28:03.140 kicks

00:28:03.380 off

00:28:03.680 on

00:28:03.900 August

00:28:04.140 22nd

00:28:05.040 arm

00:28:05.460 yourself

00:28:05.800 with

00:28:06.020 information

00:28:06.540 to

00:28:07.020 protect

00:28:07.400 your

00:28:07.580 retirement

00:28:07.960 savings

00:28:08.500 text

00:28:09.160 Bannon

00:28:09.660 to

00:28:11.420 the

00:28:11.580 number

00:28:11.820 989898

00:28:13.340 and

00:28:13.580 claim

00:28:13.940 your

00:28:14.260 free

00:28:14.580 information

00:28:15.220 kit

00:28:15.740 from

00:28:16.620 Birchgold

00:28:17.260 in my

00:28:19.540 younger

00:28:19.800 days

00:28:20.200 I was

00:28:20.520 a

00:28:20.660 naval

00:28:20.880 officer

00:28:21.260 on a

00:28:21.800 destroyer

00:28:22.500 in fact

00:28:23.020 I was

00:28:23.280 the

00:28:23.440 A-gang 1.00

00:28:23.840 officer

00:28:24.380 in charge

00:28:25.360 of

00:28:25.640 all the

00:28:26.080 engineering

00:28:26.500 systems

00:28:27.040 that were

00:28:27.380 not

00:28:27.640 main

00:28:28.000 propulsion

00:28:28.560 and

00:28:29.280 one

00:28:29.440 of

00:28:29.560 those

00:28:29.840 was

00:28:30.500 air

00:28:30.760 purification

00:28:31.460 and I

00:28:31.760 can

00:28:31.900 tell

00:28:32.140 you

00:28:32.260 the

00:28:32.460 standards

00:28:32.860 of

00:28:33.060 the

00:28:33.160 United

00:28:33.340 States

00:28:33.660 Navy

00:28:33.980 are

00:28:34.240 second

00:28:34.620 to

00:28:34.880 none

00:28:35.140 if

00:28:35.760 all

00:28:36.040 home

00:28:36.580 air

00:28:36.840 purifiers

00:28:37.340 are

00:28:37.540 the

00:28:37.720 same

00:28:38.140 why

00:28:38.800 did

00:28:39.000 the

00:28:39.160 U.S.

00:28:39.460 Department

00:28:39.780 of

00:28:39.940 Defense

00:28:40.260 select

00:28:40.660 EnviroCleanse

00:28:41.680 to

00:28:42.040 protect

00:28:42.480 and

00:28:42.720 purify

00:28:43.260 the

00:28:43.860 air

00:28:44.080 on

00:28:44.360 board

00:28:44.580 our

00:28:44.720 Navy

00:28:44.880 ships

00:28:45.240 because

00:28:45.680 EnviroCleanse

00:28:46.680 advanced

00:28:47.280 mineral

00:28:47.560 technology

00:28:48.240 goes

00:28:48.880 beyond

00:28:49.300 ordinary

00:28:49.800 HEPA

00:28:50.200 filters

00:28:50.620 to

00:28:51.100 destroy

00:28:51.740 airborne

00:28:52.400 illness

00:28:52.980 causing

00:28:53.420 cold

00:28:53.800 and

00:28:53.960 flu

00:28:54.100 viruses

00:28:54.600 including

00:28:55.640 COVID

00:28:56.460 EnviroCleanse

00:28:57.920 is the

00:28:58.520 new

00:28:58.760 science

00:28:59.240 in

00:28:59.400 air

00:28:59.620 purification

00:29:00.320 and

00:29:00.940 now

00:29:01.220 you

00:29:01.460 can

00:29:01.620 order

00:29:01.840 one

00:29:02.180 for

00:29:02.600 your

00:29:02.760 home

00:29:03.040 this

00:29:03.680 is

00:29:03.840 how

00:29:03.980 you

00:29:04.140 help

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00:31:21.960 with

00:31:22.260 Stephen K

00:31:22.860 Bannon

00:31:23.200 welcome

00:31:26.240 back

00:31:26.620 we've

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00:31:28.060 here to

00:31:28.560 go through

00:31:28.920 all this

00:31:29.240 Colonel

00:31:29.620 Males 0.97

00:31:29.880 talk to

00:31:30.340 me

00:31:30.740 you know

00:31:31.060 Ben has

00:31:32.880 made this

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00:31:33.660 case and

00:31:34.200 following it

00:31:34.700 you know

00:31:34.980 daily from

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00:31:36.560 about this

00:31:37.540 situation

00:31:38.000 that continue

00:31:38.620 to escalate

00:31:39.400 instead of

00:31:39.760 negotiate

00:31:40.200 in

00:31:41.280 in

00:31:41.940 in

00:31:42.480 eastern

00:31:42.900 Ukraine

00:31:43.300 the Ukraine

00:31:43.860 this

00:31:44.180 Ukraine

00:31:44.800 battle

00:31:45.060 space

00:31:45.500 now we

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00:31:46.520 Axios

00:31:46.980 who's

00:31:47.180 one of

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00:31:50.800 you see

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00:31:58.180 analysis

00:31:59.180 of this

00:31:59.920 threat of

00:32:00.380 nuclear

00:32:00.660 weapons

00:32:01.100 particularly

00:32:01.560 not just

00:32:02.380 the

00:32:02.560 proliferation

00:32:03.160 but actual

00:32:03.820 now people

00:32:04.340 talking about

00:32:04.840 use of

00:32:05.220 tactical

00:32:05.600 nukes

00:32:06.040 in the

00:32:06.900 Ukraine

00:32:07.220 battle

00:32:07.480 space

00:32:07.860 well that's

00:32:10.260 a grave

00:32:10.720 concern

00:32:11.340 especially

00:32:11.880 when Ukraine

00:32:12.640 reaches out

00:32:13.520 and is

00:32:13.940 beginning to

00:32:14.400 hammer

00:32:14.720 Moscow

00:32:15.320 the question

00:32:16.580 in China

00:32:17.400 this has

00:32:18.020 been once

00:32:18.860 again the

00:32:19.340 US intelligence

00:32:20.400 community has

00:32:21.180 apparently not

00:32:22.060 been paying

00:32:22.540 attention to

00:32:23.040 what's going

00:32:23.440 on to China

00:32:24.100 with the

00:32:24.460 nuclear force

00:32:25.280 I would

00:32:26.520 call them

00:32:27.040 equivalent to

00:32:27.880 us

00:32:28.180 the problem

00:32:28.620 with that

00:32:29.120 Russia was 0.98

00:32:30.020 equivalent

00:32:30.420 to us

00:32:31.060 now we

00:32:31.400 got two

00:32:31.800 countries

00:32:32.340 who are

00:32:32.880 have a

00:32:33.320 treaty

00:32:33.620 with each

00:32:34.040 other

00:32:34.220 that are

00:32:34.580 now double

00:32:35.740 our size

00:32:36.580 in nuclear

00:32:37.220 weapons

00:32:37.680 now she

00:32:38.140 just replaced

00:32:39.360 Lee who

00:32:40.220 was his

00:32:40.820 head of

00:32:42.160 strategic rocket

00:32:42.980 forces

00:32:43.380 he was an

00:32:43.780 army general

00:32:44.480 and he's

00:32:45.580 gone now

00:32:46.280 and Admiral

00:32:47.100 Wang

00:32:47.580 has been

00:32:48.320 now appointed

00:32:50.180 commander of the

00:32:51.000 strategic rocket

00:32:51.860 forces which

00:32:52.520 includes both the

00:32:53.340 ground-based and

00:32:54.580 the sea-based

00:32:55.400 deterrent and

00:32:56.260 that's what I

00:32:56.720 have here is

00:32:57.880 this is

00:32:58.220 Sonya naval

00:32:59.500 base this is

00:33:01.040 where they're

00:33:01.360 hiding their

00:33:02.060 ballistic missile

00:33:03.640 submarines their

00:33:04.360 six existing

00:33:05.300 nuclear-powered

00:33:05.980 ballistic missile

00:33:06.780 submarines the

00:33:07.980 question is is

00:33:09.520 she tying 0.98

00:33:10.760 nuclear command

00:33:11.980 and control to

00:33:12.680 artificial intelligence

00:33:13.660 so it'll work

00:33:15.400 without even any

00:33:16.920 human interaction

00:33:17.840 this is scary but

00:33:19.420 this is their

00:33:19.980 big sub-base right

00:33:21.300 there this is

00:33:21.880 underground see

00:33:23.320 what's happening

00:33:24.300 right now is they

00:33:25.180 actually have an

00:33:25.680 underground submarine

00:33:26.860 base this is where

00:33:28.020 their six type 92s

00:33:30.220 I think it is could

00:33:30.900 go inside and

00:33:32.400 they put out a

00:33:33.120 hard perimeter

00:33:34.160 with a couple of

00:33:34.920 gates because

00:33:35.440 they're very worried

00:33:36.200 about Navy SEALs

00:33:37.160 conducting a raid

00:33:38.040 here there's their

00:33:39.100 demagnetization

00:33:40.040 facility but yeah

00:33:41.360 they're hiding their

00:33:42.080 boat underground

00:33:43.260 inside here so

00:33:44.880 once they go to

00:33:45.620 sea though are

00:33:46.380 they being operated

00:33:47.500 with artificial

00:33:48.480 intelligence is our

00:33:50.280 AI now replacing

00:33:51.940 the human in the

00:33:52.740 nuclear command and

00:33:53.540 control this is

00:33:54.540 absolutely disturbing

00:33:55.640 worse than anything

00:33:56.520 we've seen during the

00:33:57.380 Cold War

00:33:57.840 and your point is

00:34:00.480 now that we forced

00:34:01.700 Russia into the arms 0.92

00:34:02.820 of the CCP you

00:34:04.640 have you have an

00:34:06.200 opponent a combined

00:34:07.300 axis controlling the

00:34:09.880 Eurasian landmass

00:34:11.080 trying to consolidate

00:34:11.680 the Eurasian landmass

00:34:13.000 that not only has

00:34:13.800 more and just

00:34:15.240 quantitative but also

00:34:16.920 qualitative because we

00:34:17.760 really we have not

00:34:18.580 updated the nuclear

00:34:19.460 arsenal in a long

00:34:21.440 time before I let you

00:34:22.900 go because I want to

00:34:23.640 get want to have you

00:34:24.620 back for a briefing

00:34:25.300 deeper on the

00:34:26.360 particularly the

00:34:26.980 ballistic missile

00:34:27.620 submarines what is

00:34:29.700 the intelligence

00:34:30.300 community saying

00:34:31.700 about this firing I

00:34:33.080 mean he just had

00:34:33.780 appointed I think

00:34:34.700 General Lee when he

00:34:36.860 was terminated

00:34:37.480 relatively quickly and

00:34:38.840 the head of the

00:34:41.000 strategic rocket

00:34:42.620 forces the strategic

00:34:43.820 nuclear forces in the

00:34:45.100 PLA doctrine is you

00:34:47.580 know one of the top

00:34:48.380 guys in the military

00:34:49.320 what scuttlebutt are 0.97

00:34:50.760 you hearing about why

00:34:51.640 she made such a public

00:34:53.340 move in firing the

00:34:55.700 head of his strategic

00:34:56.500 rocket forces well in

00:34:59.620 one release I heard the

00:35:01.200 often used expression of

00:35:02.920 corruption which is

00:35:04.180 code word for she 0.92

00:35:05.780 cleaning house and

00:35:06.700 anybody he doesn't

00:35:07.600 trust I mean she is

00:35:09.120 turning into Saddam 0.83

00:35:11.080 Hussein really fast when

00:35:13.640 he marched Ku Jintao out 0.99

00:35:15.640 of the meeting that's

00:35:16.440 exactly the tactics that

00:35:18.040 that Saddam Hussein used 0.90

00:35:20.700 to use he said so she is

00:35:22.020 terrified about an

00:35:23.180 internal threat that's

00:35:24.200 going to overthrow him

00:35:25.220 assassinate him etc so I

00:35:28.140 think that's as much as

00:35:29.300 anything what's going on

00:35:30.820 it's not like there was a

00:35:31.860 command inspection they

00:35:33.900 left the doors open on

00:35:35.560 one of the nuclear

00:35:36.360 bunkers you're fired now 1.00

00:35:38.220 I'm sure when they use the

00:35:39.380 term corruption that's a

00:35:40.480 catch-all phrase for she

00:35:43.160 doesn't like the person or

00:35:44.240 more importantly doesn't

00:35:45.460 trust the person anymore so

00:35:47.220 he especially doesn't want

00:35:48.320 his commander he cleaned

00:35:49.260 up people should know as

00:35:51.960 you follow the show

00:35:52.580 they've done a complete

00:35:53.440 house cleaning of the PLA

00:35:54.900 and a lot of people think

00:35:56.140 that's they get more

00:35:57.060 aggressive people to buy

00:35:58.060 into she's thing they 0.91

00:35:58.880 were going to have to go

00:35:59.580 to kinetic war against the

00:36:01.400 West because there were

00:36:02.060 members of the PLA said I

00:36:03.400 don't know if that's a

00:36:04.280 smart move Joe Allen

00:36:07.320 before I let you guys go

00:36:08.480 talk to me about the

00:36:10.140 threat of artificial

00:36:10.920 intelligence you know

00:36:12.160 Colonel Mills just said it

00:36:14.440 about where they've got the

00:36:16.100 you know where they've got

00:36:17.000 the center of gravity of

00:36:20.800 their fleet ballistic

00:36:22.540 missile program talk to me

00:36:23.980 about the dangers of

00:36:24.820 artificial intelligence

00:36:25.880 being in a command and

00:36:28.400 control aspect of these

00:36:30.400 weapons a lot of the

00:36:33.280 viewers will probably

00:36:34.100 remember the dead hand

00:36:35.720 system the so-called

00:36:36.480 perimeter system first

00:36:38.720 employed by the Soviets in

00:36:40.620 the mid-80s and said to be

00:36:42.660 still in effect now it's just

00:36:44.260 an automatic weapons

00:36:46.180 system that would detect

00:36:48.440 incoming nuclear strike in

00:36:51.240 Russia and would then 0.94

00:36:53.400 respond autonomously so it

00:36:55.720 would be like seismic

00:36:56.580 activity radiation detection

00:36:58.780 basically would mean that we

00:36:59.820 blew them away and so

00:37:01.340 therefore it would just start

00:37:03.320 launching intercontinental

00:37:05.080 ballistic missiles our way and

00:37:07.780 so you already have let's just

00:37:10.120 take it down from say

00:37:11.340 artificial intelligence kind of

00:37:13.140 grandiose term down just to

00:37:14.600 computer algorithms kind of

00:37:16.360 fuzzy line between these

00:37:18.240 algorithmic systems are

00:37:19.660 already there Russia's

00:37:21.980 avant-garde hypersonic

00:37:23.480 missile is guided by advanced

00:37:26.700 algorithms artificial

00:37:27.900 intelligence and it's so

00:37:30.700 complex and so autonomous

00:37:32.620 that once it's launched the

00:37:35.100 human really doesn't determine

00:37:36.760 the path after that it's just

00:37:38.360 simply ghost was target by

00:37:39.960 whatever path it decides as far

00:37:42.480 as China China has been really

00:37:45.700 putting a lot of money and

00:37:48.260 manpower brain power into what

00:37:50.880 they would call intelligentized

00:37:52.700 weapons at both Russia and China

00:37:55.200 are doing this though because the

00:37:57.140 US however however faltering the

00:38:00.460 military equipment development has

00:38:02.800 been in the US right now you have

00:38:05.340 Eric Schmidt front and center

00:38:07.220 working with the Department of

00:38:08.940 Defense to as he would maybe put

00:38:11.260 it bring the US military into the

00:38:14.040 21st century DARPA has been at the

00:38:17.520 core of everything that we talk

00:38:18.800 about when we talk about

00:38:20.080 transhumanist technology and so

00:38:22.100 they're a mass program to create

00:38:24.360 swarms of swarms AI powered drone

00:38:28.720 swarms that would kill and be able to

00:38:31.400 evade any system of detection or

00:38:34.340 deterrence all of this is happening as a

00:38:37.980 race they're all responding to each

00:38:40.580 other the US the three superpowers

00:38:42.700 US Russia and China and all of them 0.95

00:38:45.360 are doing everything they can to

00:38:48.380 develop advanced algorithmic systems

00:38:50.820 and in some quarters in the hopes of

00:38:54.380 taking human beings out of the loop so

00:38:56.400 that the AI with its fast response

00:38:58.680 times and it's a very broad swath of

00:39:01.760 data that it can gather in order to

00:39:03.460 make it decisions so that the AI is the

00:39:05.880 prime decision maker and I am with

00:39:07.800 Colonel Mills on this absolutely it is

00:39:10.420 a terrifying prospect

00:39:12.180 Joe once again the book your social

00:39:17.440 media where do people get to all your

00:39:18.700 writings

00:39:19.020 oh you can find the book at Amazon

00:39:22.640 where all books are sold you can find

00:39:25.060 links at the top of my social media at

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00:39:48.400 Joe thank you very much Colonel Mills

00:39:52.000 what are your coordinates how do people

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00:40:17.680 Colonel Mills thank you very much for your

00:40:21.180 insights as always Ben Harnwell from

00:40:22.900 Rome how do people get to you brother

00:40:25.360 Harnwell

00:40:25.780 Sir the best social media platform in

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00:40:35.340 Harnwell there I am pushing up my

00:40:38.340 thoughts and analysis throughout the

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00:40:40.900 Benny Benny been pretty good on Ukraine

00:40:43.880 for the last year and a half pretty

00:40:45.340 good got to give you a bravo Zulu on

00:40:47.220 that thank you so much for joining us

00:40:48.540 this evening from Rome

00:40:50.020 thank you so much Steve God bless

00:40:52.220 Dave Walsh

00:40:54.960 Drudge had the Mac Daddy yesterday the

00:40:57.880 month of July and had the whole

00:40:59.480 calendar every day but the hottest month

00:41:02.120 in human history

00:41:02.980 Axios leads off with of the existential

00:41:05.680 threats the the first among equals is

00:41:08.300 is climate change now they're talking

00:41:10.420 about the boiling of the earth it's

00:41:13.280 irrefutable it's only gonna get worse

00:41:15.480 uh walk me through your mathematical

00:41:18.800 assessment of this sir

00:41:20.120 well the what one one cannot the

00:41:24.360 scientists know but their media

00:41:26.360 spokespersons maybe no less that you

00:41:28.460 cannot extrapolate long-term climate

00:41:31.560 change conclusions based on 45 to 60

00:41:36.440 days of data you just can't do that

00:41:39.080 yeah we've had we've had a hotter than

00:41:41.080 normal temperature certainly in Texas

00:41:42.820 the southwest southeast somewhat the

00:41:45.840 upper Midwest a little bit the far

00:41:48.000 west actually the LA basin cooler than

00:41:50.720 normal um but if you look at typically

00:41:53.900 temperatures modulate but hold it but

00:41:56.440 hold it but hold the middle Atlantic I

00:41:58.240 mean Washington DC hasn't been a brutal

00:42:00.700 summer at all not like normally Washington

00:42:02.680 DC has or my beloved Virginia or North

00:42:04.740 Carolina the Atlantic states are Southwest

00:42:08.020 Northwest definitely Texas it's a hot

00:42:11.120 summer but how why they say the earth

00:42:13.520 is what what's the mathematical

00:42:15.300 argument they make that the earth is

00:42:17.080 boiling and now we've crossed into a

00:42:19.160 danger zone this proves they're all right

00:42:21.160 we've crossed into a danger zone there

00:42:23.360 there is no mathematical argument that

00:42:25.200 we've crossed into a danger zone if you

00:42:27.140 look at the uh the typical modulations in

00:42:29.620 temperature year to year according to uh

00:42:32.340 NOAA data the ocean oceanographic agency

00:42:35.480 temperatures on average modulate two to

00:42:38.140 four degrees per year up and down your

00:42:41.020 average temperatures winter and summer

00:42:42.820 this year we've seen about a one and a

00:42:45.080 half degree uptick on average a lot of

00:42:48.160 the country nothing yeah a lot of the

00:42:50.180 country a little worse than that it but

00:42:51.980 it's way within the normal standard

00:42:54.020 deviation of annual change from one

00:42:57.140 year to the next now average

00:42:58.960 temperatures aren't the same every year

00:43:00.900 some years higher some years lower let's

00:43:04.140 come back just the last 80 years which is

00:43:06.040 a little more relevant but not that

00:43:07.920 relevant across what one has to really

00:43:10.020 analyze is 20,000 years we had the 0.8

00:43:12.920 fahrenheit dropped from 45 to 80 1980

00:43:15.780 then a 1.4 fahrenheit rise from 1980 to

00:43:19.700 19 2015 cumulatively and then the last

00:43:23.240 nine years through two months ago

00:43:25.440 temperatures have been flat so across that

00:43:28.100 whole time period we're up about half a

00:43:29.740 degree fahrenheit over 80 years and if

00:43:32.320 you look at where the temperature is

00:43:33.620 trailing upwards 28 degrees from the end

00:43:35.860 of the last glaciation 20 18,000 years

00:43:38.640 ago this demodulation is background noise

00:43:42.100 against the 0.3 that should be happening

00:43:44.200 in accordance with the long-term uptick

00:43:46.600 post glaciation that will end and then

00:43:48.840 will be headed back down to into an ice

00:43:50.660 age this is this is way in the normal

00:43:52.960 range for a month and a half period where

00:43:56.720 it's a little warmer in parts of the

00:43:58.340 country the same in most of the country

00:44:01.140 as normal such as here in Florida

00:44:02.620 temperatures are about typical they're

00:44:04.680 not really hotter than normal in the

00:44:06.840 midday 90 90 degree range at night 74

00:44:10.280 typical very typical very normal now this

00:44:13.400 is all hair on fire conflation to push

00:44:15.440 the agenda for more and more renewables

00:44:17.880 that this is something the issue the

00:44:20.020 issue before us really is the issue of

00:44:22.520 the de-electrification of the west of

00:44:25.180 western Europe of the UK specifically

00:44:27.300 Germany specifically okay here's okay 0.60

00:44:31.140 hang on hang on I want to get to this

00:44:32.420 because this is what I don't understand

00:44:33.360 you got to help me out here the guys

00:44:36.400 that make and I'm sure there's some

00:44:38.640 logic here that you're going to explain

00:44:40.580 to me Walsh because you're my guy the

00:44:43.400 climate change guys and and their big

00:44:46.080 push is for sustainability renewable

00:44:49.720 energy I got that okay let's let's just

00:44:52.080 put a pin in that that's their argument

00:44:53.520 but they always get to the electric

00:44:56.360 vehicle and getting rid of the internal

00:44:58.100 combustion engine and fossil I mean the

00:45:00.040 whole thing is fossil fuels are over you

00:45:01.680 can't have more fossil fuel how at the

00:45:04.520 same time do we have a de-electrification

00:45:08.440 movement in the industrial in the in the

00:45:11.900 industrial west that's pretty advanced

00:45:14.660 how I just understand intellectually how

00:45:18.060 that hangs together so you got a Germany 0.97

00:45:20.220 is de-industrializing before our eyes this

00:45:23.480 is not war room saying that Dave Walsh

00:45:25.460 this is coming from now the financial

00:45:27.860 times in mainstream German media they're

00:45:30.460 actually having a debate about it and as

00:45:32.460 Dave Walsh is showing whether and these

00:45:34.520 are not left-wing states whether it's

00:45:36.180 South Carolina whether it's the state of

00:45:38.120 Florida you know you got Nikki Haley and

00:45:40.580 Tim Scott running from for president from

00:45:42.560 South Carolina you got DeSantis from

00:45:44.160 Florida in Texas you got you know it's

00:45:47.340 the Bastion of MAGA during an advanced

00:45:50.040 de-electrification movement am I wrong in

00:45:53.460 any of that you're completely correct

00:45:56.160 England is devastated with 15 million

00:45:58.980 folks living under the poverty line now

00:46:00.900 due to the de-energization and de-

00:46:03.720 industrialization of that country since

00:46:05.600 about 2002 an entire 20 percent of the

00:46:10.040 economy has been under attack and

00:46:11.760 basically taken off the table being oil

00:46:14.160 and gas production coal production

00:46:15.600 steel making and now England is a massive

00:46:18.380 importer of energy poverty levels at

00:46:20.960 record levels Germany's headed the same 0.82

00:46:23.240 place and and we are making exactly the

00:46:26.200 same moves and this is all because the

00:46:28.240 there are in the West there are no longer

00:46:30.860 energy policies there are only environmental

00:46:34.000 policies and and this assignment of CO2 is

00:46:37.400 something to do with the environment which

00:46:39.500 it is not it is not a pollutant it's a

00:46:42.320 naturally occurring element it's fundamental

00:46:44.880 to the existence of life we've seen in this

00:46:48.300 country what we're now doing is we need

00:46:51.100 about 20 percent more electrification by

00:46:53.800 2030 just to match normal GDP a normal

00:46:57.520 population growth about 20 percent more

00:46:59.880 electrification is needed before we get to

00:47:02.140 EVs and electrifying home heating the

00:47:05.220 growth rate of electrification across the next set

00:47:08.000 nine years is only four percent because what

00:47:10.560 we're adding 90 percent of what we're

00:47:12.840 adding is wind and solar that operate on

00:47:15.140 average about 22 percent of the time we need

00:47:18.400 electrification that operates 100 percent of

00:47:20.560 the time while we're adding that we're taking

00:47:23.340 offline 12 12 and a half 13 percent of our

00:47:26.320 capacity mainly coal some nuclear that runs

00:47:29.680 full-time so the net net of the two is we're

00:47:32.320 spending a trillion dollars to add close to net

00:47:35.360 zero about four percent of added capacity in

00:47:38.560 nine years where we need 20 now when we get

00:47:41.440 the EVs must yesterday talked about three

00:47:45.400 times more electricity needed by 2045 okay if

00:47:49.000 I'm in the EV business I'm going to say that

00:47:51.140 but really he's on the right path we need a

00:47:53.600 we'll need about two times more electrification

00:47:56.620 by 2045 half or normal population and GDP

00:48:00.520 growth if we want to remain industrialized at

00:48:03.700 all and then half for the EV conversion and for

00:48:06.900 this uh home heating conversion across the

00:48:09.220 upper Midwest and Northeast we're not adding

00:48:12.040 electrical capacity to do anywhere near that

00:48:15.100 in fact as I've said the next 10 years we're

00:48:17.380 growing electrical capacity by about four and a

00:48:19.620 half five percent where it needs to grow 20 percent

00:48:22.180 without this other transition that Biden's

00:48:25.520 doubling down on this is the horrendous issue

00:48:27.680 facing the West it's the de-energization

00:48:30.240 resulting in the de-electrification of the West

00:48:33.360 due to the the adherence to environmental only

00:48:37.280 policies and zero energy strategy in Germany

00:48:40.740 in France in England in Belgium in the United

00:48:43.600 States in Canada in Australia New Zealand zero

00:48:46.800 energy policy only environmental yielding to the

00:48:50.020 greens on an environmental only perspective on

00:48:52.800 how energy is created and that less up means less

00:48:56.060 industry

00:48:56.460 I find it um this is why I wanted to do the Axios piece

00:49:03.840 for today because Axios and pulling out climate change

00:49:07.900 artificial intelligence and nuclear weapons they said

00:49:11.700 these are the three existential threats to humankind

00:49:14.840 right now they're all kind of converging

00:49:16.500 Axios and their corporate partners are the ones that have been

00:49:20.580 driving this that's the thing is so outrageous Dave we got to

00:49:24.700 bounce how what's your social media oh we just lost Dave

00:49:28.560 Walsh that's okay uh okay Dave what's your social media how

00:49:32.040 do people get to you brother on getter at Dave Walsh

00:49:35.240 energy and truth social the same thank you Steve you you've

00:49:39.300 been spectacular we're gonna have you back on a drill down 0.97

00:49:41.180 even more on this sir no pun intended we're gonna leave

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Bannon's War Room - August 02, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 344： Arms Race Of The 21st Century; Rebuttal To The Existential Threat To Humanity

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