Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 357： Destruction In Maui Worse Than Middle East; Ukrainians Refusing To Fight

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:16.340 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:24.100 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:29.880 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:34.940 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:38.720 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:45.840 stephen k bannon 2023 i want to thank you coming back for the second hour we've been obviously

00:00:54.340 packed all day um and this hour is absolutely jammed so strap in you know jason jones the

00:01:02.660 audience is very familiar with jason we normally are talking to jason in places like afghanistan or

00:01:07.420 iraq um or you know the the christians being persecuted in in in the deserts of the middle

00:01:14.620 east or in the texas border or in central america south america but jason joins us now from his home

00:01:20.940 in in hawaii and um jason you you did you ever think that you'd have a situation that on the on

00:01:28.860 paradise and beautiful hawaiian islands you'd have to put your shoulder to the wheel here

00:01:32.580 to make sure that you could uh you would assist uh your fellow hawaiian islanders in this tremendous

00:01:39.500 tragedy is taking place in maui no steve it's been the most surreal and heartbreaking experience

00:01:45.400 of my life you know in the past six months um my organization the vulnerable people project we've

00:01:50.740 been rescuing christians out of khartoum and sudan um i was in eastern ukraine um i was in the middle

00:01:57.500 east you know my organization was founded to serve the most vulnerable people in the world when the

00:02:02.000 world has abandoned them or hasn't shown up and when i was flying home um to assist my family and

00:02:10.080 friends who now had become the most vulnerable people in the world and uh it was really an

00:02:15.900 unbelievable and heartbreaking experience and i can tell you as i walked through lahaina and as we

00:02:21.980 slowly drove through lahaina and i looked at the wreckage it was worse than anything i had ever seen

00:02:29.000 in my life it reminded me steve of when i was with the peshmerga as they were liberating towns

00:02:35.460 and you could still smell the burning flesh of the christians and yezidis that isis had killed and 0.99

00:02:43.920 left in buildings that were booby trapped and in rubble um but the reality is the damage in lahaina was

00:02:50.120 worse smell was the same but the damage was worse and you know my children are pacific they're half

00:02:57.100 they're what we call hapahaulis then um they're all these missing children that look like me they look

00:03:03.280 like my children you know because my children are hapahaulis i'm a hauli and they're pacific islander

00:03:09.140 and filipino and chinese so they're mixed um so that it's it's seeing families that look like my

00:03:16.040 families my friends my college roommate um who are directly impacted by this and to see the way the

00:03:23.360 government has dissembled from the mayor to the disaster management director who has now resigned

00:03:30.900 to the president of the united states who couldn't even find one word he couldn't even stop see what's

00:03:36.880 unbelievable is when biden was asked to respond to maui you and i work with politicians you know

00:03:43.320 for 30 years i've worked on political campaigns and there's a technique called blocking and bridging

00:03:47.380 where whatever you're asked you answer the question you would have wanted to you want to answer and

00:03:52.700 if any sensible consultant to joe biden would have said whatever question you're asked first you're

00:03:58.080 going to make it about maui you're going to say hold that thought i want to talk to the people of

00:04:02.640 maui our thoughts and our prayers are with you and the federal government in partnership with

00:04:07.780 ngos and your state and local and county governments will do everything we can to serve you that's what

00:04:15.040 a president would have said who was thoughtful that's what a president would have said if he had

00:04:19.820 advisors that were thoughtful to the people of maui and um so it's really unbelievable

00:04:25.120 but in this deep in this deep but in this deeper in this deeper than than the biden regime because

00:04:30.300 something here's what i understand you hear is there 1300 people still missing a thousand i mean

00:04:36.360 we're now into the second week of this thing and we can't get the arms around anything really about

00:04:43.120 the origins of this fire you have a lot of speculation might have been power lines and

00:04:46.900 you and i have talked about this wall street journal story that i guess the the hawaiian power

00:04:52.700 companies and talks with a with a private equity firm maybe going private or or or having the

00:04:58.800 largest part of it steve the largest owner i didn't mean to interrupt you i'm sorry but

00:05:05.160 the largest owner of hawaiian electric is black rock

00:05:07.480 does not surprise me do you think there's any truth to this rumor that that that these land

00:05:16.580 speculators are taking advantage of this of this dire situation to buy it from local residents to buy

00:05:22.260 land inexpensively from people that's not a rumor i've talked to people who have dozen calls in a

00:05:31.120 day their family members are missing their town is in rubble and they're being peppered by vultures

00:05:37.260 this is not uh a speculation this is a fact it is not speculation that that that children were home

00:05:44.380 alone it is not speculation there are a thousand people missing steve uh and an average year around

00:05:50.200 1100 people die in maui county in a given year of all causes we're looking at more people dying in

00:05:57.800 a single day or approximately the same amount of people who die in a year in maui county died in a

00:06:03.760 single day and we're going to find out and this is not speculation i i hate to even say it out loud

00:06:08.960 but it's going to be a disproportionate number of these are going to be young children and this is

00:06:14.940 really heartbreaking this was completely preventable the arrogance of our government is is unbelievable

00:06:20.660 can you imagine that we have by and this is not global warming wildfires have been down uh for 20

00:06:28.440 years consistently for the past 20 years we're seeing less and less wildfires in the united states

00:06:33.380 dramatically less about one-third less i believe and so to say that this is global warming no this is a

00:06:39.640 radical anti-human ideology that punishes the poor you drive your electric car and that punishes the

00:06:45.700 poor in africa these young children who are working to the bone like slaves to get those rare earth

00:06:51.100 elements that you need in your electric car battery what you know why weren't the electric wires buried

00:06:58.500 why weren't the the wires buried you know steve you know when you know you're in a community that's

00:07:03.060 that the government responds to their interests is when the power lines are underground when you

00:07:09.460 drive through a community and the power lines are above ground you know oh then the city doesn't

00:07:15.280 care about these people the city is not responsive to the needs of these people and the historic lahaina

00:07:21.660 town should have been the first community in all of oahu that hawaiian electric buried those lines

00:07:27.680 the first community so why were there above ground power lines that's the first thing you need to know

00:07:35.760 and well the reason is they said that they weren't going to be investing money in old energy that they

00:07:42.080 wanted to take all of their resources and pour it into quote-unquote new energy green energy so this is

00:07:47.520 we look we have a governor who's addled by the ideology of environmentalism we have a senator

00:07:53.460 brian shots the most snide cocky little man you've ever met in your life who built his political career

00:08:01.340 on being a boy that picked up cans around his neighborhood and quickly left you know skipped

00:08:06.900 his way into a senate seat um and he was just chuckling and the the hours after the catastrophe

00:08:15.340 the first press release there was brian shots and he's just making weird smiles and kind of giggling and

00:08:21.600 he looked like a child at his first funeral and i for the life of me this is who we have um governing

00:08:28.340 the state and it's really unbelievable there there are consequences there are consequences to having

00:08:34.020 government that is responsive to ideology and not the needs of its citizens you you've been on some

00:08:39.900 of the worst battlefields in the world you you've spent a lot of time in iraq with the kurds in the

00:08:46.380 middle east for the destruction of the christian churches there you've been in some tough places with

00:08:50.900 the peshmerga you know what a battlefield looks like and particularly knows what it smells like

00:08:54.700 are you telling me in your experience that lahana was worse than the battlefields that you've seen

00:09:04.240 in in when you're doing your work to protect the defenseless christians throughout the middle east 1.00

00:09:09.160 yeah and i challenge anyone look at the drone footage of the isis destruction of these these villages

00:09:16.520 in iraq and and then look at the drone footage of lahaina there's it's it's unbelievable it is absolutely

00:09:26.540 unbelievable it looks worse than what you would see on the borders and i was questioning myself does

00:09:31.560 this is this because it's it's close to home is this because it's my community is this because it's my

00:09:36.400 family and my friends and no we we drove through one part of lahaina and there was a woman walking 0.98

00:09:43.320 through the wreckage and this is something you'll see in a war zone often there was a woman just

00:09:49.500 walking alone barefoot talking to herself and crying we just watched her you know you see this

00:09:58.720 you you we were we're the vulnerable people project through our hope for hawaii.com program

00:10:05.420 we have been boating in supplies and then using jet skis as a bucket brigade to take them from the

00:10:12.100 boats offshore to hundreds of people forming bucket brigades on the beach to get them into the trucks

00:10:17.440 and we'll be singing and laughing and high-fiving as we're unloading these trucks and then the middle

00:10:24.320 of it all you'll just see somebody burst into tears you'll you know they'll be laughing one minute and

00:10:29.620 then you'll see um you know a shadow move across their face they begin to cry and then you'll you'll

00:10:35.960 realize that for a moment they escaped they were able to escape the sorrow of losing their wife or their

00:10:41.320 children or their brother or their mother their grandfather and through the work that they're

00:10:46.080 doing and then all of a sudden it hits them at this at this uh bucket brigade is showing here

00:10:51.380 off off underneath a tree the entire time we were there for hours unloading there was a little boy

00:10:58.620 just crying and i just can't imagine why he was crying well we we know why he's lost he's lost friends

00:11:07.740 this is really steve another nine of a nine eleven i want to put this in perspective there's a thousand

00:11:12.980 or so missing and that's the equivalent if after nine eleven there were eight hundred thousand new

00:11:19.860 yorkers missing and and in hawaii you know it's it's such a close-knit place it's a polynesian

00:11:27.340 what do you mean after nine eleven there were eight hundred thousand new yorkers missing it would

00:11:33.860 be the equivalent if you look at the population size oh oh equivalent yes yes yes i i get but let

00:11:39.720 me ask you this is the question what what eight hundred equivalent perfect so that's the the point

00:11:45.800 with something this big a scale the federal government's already announced they're not going

00:11:50.240 to do an investigation you there's no investigation looks like really going on formally at least you can

00:11:56.260 see from the outside because of information lockdown there's still this discussion of and

00:12:01.100 you've been in war zones did a did a wildfire alone cause this i mean it seems so unbelievable that this

00:12:06.420 was simply a wildfire when you look at this it looks like the fire bombing of tokyo or dresden after

00:12:12.800 the uh eighth air force hit it in world war ii it just it's it's it's unbelievable the footage

00:12:18.240 that you see they still we still don't know are there eleven thirteen hundred people missing eleven

00:12:23.360 hundred how many are children it looks like they're slow walking all the information because

00:12:27.180 they don't want they don't want any accountability and they don't want to really get to the bottom

00:12:31.080 of it so what what are the citizens going to start demanding out there because this has to be

00:12:35.260 citizen driven we understand people are in shock but you're not going to get to the bottom of this

00:12:39.900 to the citizens start demanding answers oh they're demanding answers and they are slow walking this

00:12:45.800 because the american people have a heart for hawaii and if they understood the magnitude of this

00:12:50.860 catastrophe um the the nation would be roaring i have you know there were tourists arriving in the

00:12:57.620 first couple of days who didn't even know that there anything had happened because the media was

00:13:01.540 reporting it as a brush fire and um i will say this steve a lot of my friends are native hawaiians

00:13:07.420 one of my best friends is a leader of the uh you know of a movement uh for sovereignty for hawaiian

00:13:14.160 sovereignty and i think a lot of native hawaiians are asking themselves this question right now

00:13:18.560 what benefit do we have of being a part of the united states what benefit do we have

00:13:23.980 the kingdom was illegally overthrown um we're being treated so disrespectfully

00:13:29.620 you have you know a black rock owned electric company uh careless uh at the very least they were 1.00

00:13:37.040 reckless and careless and it resulted and the wall street journal is reporting that hawaiian electric

00:13:41.900 is already in in in meetings to reorganize to avoid having to i guess pay the liability that they

00:13:49.660 owe yeah they're going to try to they're going to try to they're going to try to hide in bankruptcy

00:13:54.560 jason we got to bounce where do people i know you've got your group now working directly to try to

00:14:00.400 alleviate this where do people go first on social media to find all your reporting and number two where

00:14:05.680 do they go if people want to assist on instagram at vulnerable people project you can find all of

00:14:12.620 our work across the world and here in hawaii our hawaii website is hope for hawaii.com

00:14:18.300 anyone who donates to our campaign we're providing food shelter and i've committed to paying for the

00:14:25.340 funerals of families that can't afford the funerals and anyone who donates steve can i share with

00:14:29.720 they get a hope for hawaii hat with a patch this every country we work in steve we create a patch so

00:14:35.180 we have patches for nigeria malawi iraq syria afghanistan i never in a million years thought we

00:14:41.120 would have to have this this patch of my own home and it really breaks my heart but that's hope hope

00:14:47.580 for hawaii.com and um and i'll be going back i'm in oahu now for meetings and i'll be heading back

00:14:55.900 to maui tomorrow jason we'll catch up with you tomorrow from maui thank you very much for joining

00:15:02.340 us appreciate it appreciate all the work you're doing thank you steve thank you when jason says

00:15:07.160 it's worse than what he was at the front line with the peshmerga you understand the level of this and

00:15:12.580 of course larry fink i think they are i'm not saying they're going to do it i think they are looking at

00:15:17.280 alternatives and maybe even going to bankruptcy as a protection from the massive lawsuits here anyway

00:15:23.600 that we're also going to follow that in detail jeff clark um you did such an amazing job on east

00:15:29.620 palestine which we've only scratched the surface on but i had a number of people and people

00:15:35.060 following along at home jeff was president trump's i mean you see him in the paper for all these other

00:15:41.140 topics he actually was over at uh the justice department part of it was about monitoring the epa

00:15:47.700 although you actually got promoted by bill barr at one time you were running both the civil

00:15:52.300 you were running the entire civil division is that correct that's correct that was the uh

00:15:58.980 additional assignment i got in september of 2020 after being senate confirmed to run the environment

00:16:04.600 division which i was running up until the end in early 2021 steve okay so people pro publica which is

00:16:13.680 kind of a left-wing investigative thing but they do some pretty good investigative work they're they're

00:16:17.900 left-wing and no fans of uh the mega movement but they've got this piece that was all over last

00:16:23.900 week epa approved a fuel ingredient even though it could cause cancer and virtually every person

00:16:31.320 exposed over a lifetime and then you read the study your your head blows up what's going on here

00:16:40.160 i mean is this it probably normally doesn't hype their things like i said they're they're a left-wing

00:16:46.180 group so they normally go after people on the right but what what is this why why would why would epa who

00:16:52.680 i thought were like the super environmentalist the uber environmentalist that this is what they're in

00:16:58.360 the business of shutting down why would they approve this sir and what is the real danger here

00:17:02.700 well steve first let me say about pro publica that look they're the outfit that's been on justice

00:17:09.720 thomas's case and on trying to change the composition or get you know uh supreme court

00:17:15.380 justices uh besmattered and and besmirched so that they can try to get them uh off the court but you

00:17:22.340 know every once in a while even a blind nut finds a squirrel and this is definitely a big nut uh so

00:17:28.500 we're talking about chevron they have developed 18 different recycled uh consumer plastics or other

00:17:37.160 kinds of plastics that they want to turn into a major component of boat fuel in pascagoula mississippi

00:17:43.040 and that uh let's just pause there and recognize i don't know if you're if cameron has uh the graphic

00:17:50.560 but uh the nih actually cautions against burning plastics just as a general matter because it can

00:17:56.700 cause all kinds of reproductive damage damage to the endocrine system because it releases uh you know

00:18:02.980 metallates and and uh microplastics and all sorts of other nasty things and and i think everyone

00:18:08.920 probably has an experience of having burned plastic you know for some reason around the house or

00:18:13.420 inadvertently or something it gives off a really terrible smell which is kind of an indicator of the

00:18:17.720 fact that it's a serious health risk so they're taking 18 waste streams of plastic and they're turning

00:18:23.320 it into boat fuel and if you were a lifelong boat uh man and you were using this fuel on a daily basis

00:18:29.340 it is a certainty that you would get cancer the risk that propublica calculated from the available

00:18:35.040 data from epa is that the risk is 1.3 to 1 which means you'd get cancer 1.3 times over your one lifetime

00:18:42.680 right and if you're a casual boater right then the risks go down proportionately but uh they calculated

00:18:48.860 that these risks are so enormous they're so out of uh the orders of magnitude that epa normally deals

00:18:54.480 with there are a million times what epa normally proposes and they're more deadly than uh they're

00:19:00.600 six times more deadly than being a lifetime smoker in terms of your risk of getting cancer so it's

00:19:06.660 really uh amazing that epa would approve this stuff but but but but hang on but hang on hang on it's so

00:19:11.940 that's what the thing blew me away when i looked at the math i thought as a i thought we were in the

00:19:17.660 recycling business i thought it was a good thing to try to take these plastics so they don't end up in the

00:19:22.200 ocean right i thought we had a whole effort to kind of recycle these so is the original intention

00:19:28.960 correct or appropriate and this is just they got off track here and and getting off track how the epa

00:19:37.100 not i mean how did this happen when like you said most of the epa are nazis or environmental nazis

00:19:43.180 how could they let something that has these kind of statistics and and you know and make people

00:19:50.060 vulnerable to this stuff how do they let that go so steve look this is similar at some level at a

00:19:56.320 high level of generality to what you covered with jason jones about what's going on in in hawaii in

00:20:02.400 that uh you know he was talking about ideology here right what i would say the moral of this story is

00:20:07.500 that uh in far environmental fads at this point trump environmental realities so what is the fad they

00:20:14.400 like these fuels because uh they're promoting them for climate change purposes so it seems like that was

00:20:19.560 used uh politically inside epa to override the risk analysis and you know epa purportedly made an error

00:20:27.780 steve in the in the uh technical paper they say that uh you know there were stack gas uh risks well no the

00:20:36.300 risks were really from burning the boat fuel in terms of what comes out the tailpipe of the boat uh or off

00:20:42.600 of the engine through some other means and there's an epa scientist quoted in the uh article by pro

00:20:49.620 publica and what she says is like look i was at the epa for 30 years i've never seen epa make a mistake

00:20:55.360 like this where they say something is a stack gas and she said basically i'm sure as hell anything i

00:21:00.900 worked on when i was at the epa if we said something was a stack gas it was a stack gas and we didn't call

00:21:06.640 things that weren't stack gases stack gases so you know i this reminds me of a category mix up for

00:21:12.560 one of the first cases i worked on in private practice after i finished law school and my clerkship

00:21:17.640 was for du pont and there was a case you know a birth defect case that was brought and the original

00:21:24.400 claim was that there was a woman who was exposed by inhaling uh the relevant pesticide but when she figured

00:21:32.440 out that her expert witness had made a uh calculation that was off by a factor of 10 she switched to saying

00:21:38.080 that there was dermal inhalation so i've read these kinds of epa studies before steve and poured over

00:21:43.520 them in fact for past litigation and then for uh administrative law litigation as well i mean you know

00:21:49.360 epa they they sometimes will you know uh kind of stretch things and they'll spin it and they'll apply

00:21:56.640 lots of cautionary factors but i've never seen a situation where they've made an error of this magnitude

00:22:01.640 it is just inexplicable but but but but but it's it's like out in in hawaii where we can't get

00:22:10.400 basic answers and now you have maybe 1300 people maybe a majority of children we don't know because

00:22:16.680 people aren't putting the information can you with your understanding of epa and even we saw the

00:22:22.960 unprofessionalism in the east palestine situation but that was in procedures and process

00:22:27.520 but in studies and analytics which they pride themselves they're among the best in the world

00:22:32.540 do you buy that this could have happened as a mistake or do you think this was ideology

00:22:39.800 driving the climate change agenda said well look we got to get this in here

00:22:43.440 because these are climate uh these are climate uh appropriate fuels maybe not for humans but for

00:22:49.760 the climate sir right well i think the focus for epa and and their approach in the past has always been

00:22:56.140 to prioritize human health uh and then animal health and then you know the the health of the

00:23:01.320 environment more generally so i don't buy that this is just some kind of mistake i mean a stack gas means

00:23:07.680 you're producing this at the relevant facility right this chevron facility in pasagula that would be a

00:23:13.900 calculation about what comes out of their facility but the danger is what comes out of the boat fuel

00:23:19.880 once it's manufactured from the facility shipped to the boaters and they put it in their engines and

00:23:24.980 they burn it that's really where the risk is you can't possibly make that mistake because you know

00:23:30.500 you woke up a little bit late on a monday morning when you were finalizing the study i mean this would

00:23:34.900 go through uh you know at least 10 and maybe even like two dozen scientists at epa and then they would

00:23:41.880 also talk to some other folks and see what they thought before they finalized the paper and it's

00:23:46.480 a 203 page risk uh assessment steve so you know i think they've been caught with their pants down

00:23:52.980 the environmental groups even are up in arms about this they put out a proposed rule and in the proposed

00:23:58.760 rule they say that what they're they're going to do is you know if you actually propose to uh to make

00:24:04.700 any of this stuff you know you'd have to come to them and get sort of further approval and they'd

00:24:09.320 probably require uh further study but you know that that still doesn't uh get past the fact that

00:24:15.580 if no one had caught that these errors right you would be producing a boat fuel and going out and

00:24:20.760 burning it maybe as you're you know tooling around even doing some weekend fishing or something in the

00:24:25.740 gulf and breathing in deadly chemicals that can cause cancer or destroy your reproductive system it's 0.98

00:24:31.220 it's uh it's unfathomable steve now what what's the status right now i mean because i over the

00:24:38.860 weekend for people you know i know a lot of people coming from a a navy town where i was born and

00:24:44.380 having family down in narfolk in ocean view a lot of people that spend a lot of time on the water

00:24:48.900 this thing the way it was written kind of freaked people out is this actually out there today are our

00:24:54.060 boat our watermen actually breathing this in and if not is it being stopped in place i mean what can

00:24:59.980 you give us a status report to the best of your knowledge i i to my understanding i don't think that

00:25:06.640 it's actually out there uh but you know it was going to be out there unless uh some whistles were

00:25:11.980 blown so they've been blown the environmental groups are upset a proposed rule was put out in

00:25:16.820 june like i said to try to put additional uh sort of mother may eyes and and study controls on this 0.99

00:25:24.120 before it comes out but certainly if you are being marketed a new form of fuel from chevron

00:25:31.800 uh that uh you know you see the word plastic anywhere near uh you should not get that fuel

00:25:38.980 you should be very cautious you should just try to be using traditional fuels uh which they don't

00:25:44.120 want us using steve because of all this climate change nonsense and uh you know i think that that

00:25:50.900 probably chevron is not proceeding here which is why upa thinks the rule could actually uh do some good

00:25:57.180 in terms of coming to them to ask for further permissions because you know with these stories

00:26:02.040 out there yeah this is a plaintiff lawyer's dream right if they start manufacturing this and then

00:26:06.740 somebody gets cancer like the lawsuits are going to explode and and chevron's not going to have an

00:26:12.220 excuse that epa said it was okay because it's been exposed that epa made these massive errors

00:26:18.040 okay particularly with the the 1.3 times if you have one life 1.3 times you'll get it uh jeff just

00:26:26.020 hang on a second we'll take a short commercial break jeff clark's going to join us on the other side

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00:32:14.560 so jeff just a couple quick questions for i know you got to bounce um shouldn't chevron i mean this

00:32:22.140 thing gets reviewed by dozens of guys inside of epa before it comes out but i'm sure it gets circulated

00:32:27.560 to the company shouldn't someone like chevron even said hey oh by the way uh you have a slight

00:32:36.700 miscalculation like like you know 10 orders of magnitude shouldn't they have shouldn't they have

00:32:42.980 brought it up i mean the the dangers are so severe when you read this report of how our watermen and

00:32:49.420 people that spend time on the water boatmen could get this type of cancer like over 100 of the time

00:32:56.520 it's so egregious what could have happened shouldn't the company or some some sciences working for them

00:33:02.480 said our lawyer said hey by the way i read the report there's a tiny error here that changes

00:33:07.000 everything sir yeah i mean you know it boils down to the idea if i only had but two lives to live i could

00:33:13.300 get cancer 1.3 times uh from this new boat fuel so you would think someone at chevron would have

00:33:19.620 found it because at least uh when i was doing some things in this area for some chemical companies

00:33:24.740 certainly uh those their scientists had seen earlier drafts and commented on it etc i think that look

00:33:32.040 anyone who is a boatman or uh is in some kind of uh group of fishermen or the like they might want to

00:33:38.460 uh the epa here to try to get any interactions with chevron about this so they can see what chevron

00:33:45.500 was saying about it uh and that might just be good to do now to get the documents maybe even in

00:33:50.720 preparation for lawsuits if this ever comes out steve and you would think chevron would say hey there's

00:33:57.180 going to be a million of lawsuits filed here this could take us down right we got to get on top of

00:34:02.040 this last thing because it seems to me quite fishy when you have as many experts as you got an epa on

00:34:08.120 the scientific analytics side this thing kind of got through uh i just know how government reviews

00:34:12.820 are and i'm not buying it are there other areas we should be concerned about where maybe some of

00:34:18.960 these radical uh climate people are trying to do things that not just are edge work but go over the

00:34:25.840 edge of maybe harming human beings to to protect gaia mother earth i i think steve that we have to be

00:34:34.860 concerned in all areas and that's because of the uh dominant role of this out of control uh super

00:34:42.140 control and super uh you know international control in this climate change area right it's already

00:34:48.560 corrupted science in many ways because much like it you know we know about dr fauci's research

00:34:54.280 corruption and the like right if you control vast federal sums of money to do research and the like

00:34:59.560 it can be corrupted by ideology i think something similar is going on inside epa because the press

00:35:05.600 from the biden administration is that you know you must produce on climate change we must have

00:35:10.800 a new green economy and that green economy obviously involves things like these new boat fuels from

00:35:17.900 manufacture remanufactured recycled materials and so you know i think we're gonna have to be vigilant

00:35:24.660 for these things because the temptation of anybody to please their master inside a government agency and

00:35:30.820 keep their jobs and keep their pensions and so on you know will be to give them what they want and

00:35:35.380 right now what they want is approval of any kind of renewal uh bull any kind of uh you know new uh feed

00:35:41.920 stream for uh some kind of fuel they can claim has lower carbon emissions so they can claim it's better

00:35:47.720 for the environment even if it's actually worse for human health which is where the surprise the

00:35:52.040 the priority should lie uh you know steve you know sadly uh there's the question right who watches the

00:35:58.860 watchers at this point i think it's the american people who have to be the watchers of their government

00:36:02.740 i don't think the government's looking out for the people who watches the watchmen jeff clark how do we

00:36:10.140 get to your you know brother clark your hits on here are amazing but sometimes you make the news

00:36:14.760 outside of the war room how do people follow you well i'm at jeff clark us on uh twitter and getter and

00:36:21.860 at real jeff clark on truth social steve uh and uh also uh you can find our work at the center for

00:36:28.980 renewing america and i know russ was on earlier today and had a great discussion with you and and

00:36:33.860 look you know there might be some filings coming out today so watch the news about that on my other

00:36:39.280 front we will love jeff clark the 30 front war personally fighting the 30 front war clark thank you

00:36:48.000 so much you're a good man thanks a lot steve um cold open for uh ben harnwell who's on point on this

00:36:57.120 debacle and this really this tragedy in ukraine let's go and play the cold open bring ben in from

00:37:02.660 room point one would be war is unpredictable um i think in the intelligence is largely accurate in

00:37:10.860 describing what you were told let's remember just like in sports um things can change very quickly

00:37:18.320 in in the flash of an eye uh last night i watched a tennis match finals of the lead-up tournament to the

00:37:25.320 u.s open spaniard al careth playing against uh djokovic each of them held uh match point several times

00:37:34.460 through the match until djokovic finally prevailed war is unpredictable um point two i wouldn't count

00:37:42.640 out entirely a ukrainian breakthrough they still haven't put the mass of armor to work as effectively

00:37:51.280 as we would hope but bottom line joe unfortunately this one looks on land as though it's settling down

00:37:58.540 i'll close with this um look to the sea you know the admiral's going to say that uh but look at

00:38:05.340 what's happening using sea drones sinking russian warships at sea um there's a lot of battle space

00:38:13.500 that you can go around the land warfare and then finally as these f-16s come online over the next six

00:38:21.780 months let's hope uh that in the air we'll see a change on land you can bet on the static in the air

00:38:30.720 and at sea i think we've got some significant changes ahead all right retired four-star navy

00:38:38.160 admiral james tovrida the thing that the ukrainians are doing right now is they are expending intellectual

00:38:45.440 firepower and they're spending expending firepower on on objectives that are not directly attributing

00:38:53.380 or at least contributing to the success of trying to isolate russian forces and then as a result of

00:39:00.760 that isolation you then must reduce those forces when you go after targets in crimea they've also

00:39:06.660 taken shots into moscow a couple weeks ago those are distractions what needs to take place is all of

00:39:13.940 those weapon systems all of that planning all of the direction that the ukrainians need to take right

00:39:19.420 now needs to be on one or two very specific objectives so that they can achieve some immediate

00:39:25.460 tactical success and then exploit that success when you start throwing firepower in the direction of

00:39:31.620 moscow and then deep into crimea you're not going to do this is an incredible tough task on the part of

00:39:36.840 the ukrainians that's why frankly when you look at the strikes in crimea you get the sense that

00:39:42.580 they are trying to throw some haymakers you know that wild left punch that's not going to achieve 0.98

00:39:48.640 success what's going to achieve success is continued tactical penetration of those defensive belts so

00:39:54.620 that you can isolate those forces once a unit is once a military unit is isolated they're incredibly

00:40:00.440 vulnerable that's what ukraine needs to try to achieve and i would say one more thing amra that what

00:40:05.660 the ukrainians are doing now looks not dissimilar to what the russians did when they invaded in

00:40:10.680 february the russians got way over over their skis multiple axes of approach and the ukrainians

00:40:17.440 very very quickly were able to stop them and then to push the russians back i hate to say it but it 1.00

00:40:24.640 looks like the ukrainians might have failed to learn that lesson

00:40:27.400 the ukrainians might have failed to learn the lesson i thought the great masters the teachers

00:40:33.620 of the lessons were the united states military this is you saw right there staff read us

00:40:39.540 kind of saying oh it's like a tennis match or breakthrough they got to keep you know penetrating

00:40:44.340 the the spider was a spider marks of the army general they got a tactical penetration

00:40:49.580 i'm bringing ben harrell ben the the ukrainian this is the kind of callousness 0.73

00:40:55.060 that the psycho psycho uh what do you call the psychopathic overlords sociopathic overlords

00:41:03.260 you know have the ukrainian people i hope are getting a belly full of this because now as their 1.00

00:41:09.140 casualties cross 200 000 according to the new york times and the washington post leaked by the

00:41:15.460 intelligence community they've essentially quit on the battlefield in the land he gets to have

00:41:21.320 read us yeah we'll see we can throw some things there's some ships over there then spider mark

00:41:25.580 saying but that's all kind of ridiculous haymakers they got to focus on going back and having the

00:41:30.340 mass casual mass mass casualty events that got them in this situation in the first is we know

00:41:38.460 washington dc and it was a big part of this morning's uh talk about the budget that's going to be

00:41:43.820 zero chance that this ukrainian supplemental passes where the ukrainian people stand on this are they

00:41:51.180 understand that the uh best and the brightest in washington dc the escalation party has led them

00:41:59.540 down as professor mersheimer said the primrose path to their own destruction sir good evening steve well

00:42:07.120 i was actually going to start off with professor mersheimer in answer to your question but his other

00:42:11.480 famous quote with regards to ukraine and that is that the west is going to fight russia down to the

00:42:16.960 last ukrainian i think that's really the insight that that has been governing this war for the last

00:42:21.800 18 months and continues to govern it and that you know you really need to be a sociopath uh whether

00:42:26.980 of course you're an overlord or not it will depend on on rank and position but you would need to be

00:42:32.200 a sociopath able to look into the cameras like that and just reasonably dismiss that real impact

00:42:37.720 this is having not just on ukrainians also on russians too i think the new york times on friday steve

00:42:44.100 we mentioned this briefly on saturday they did this article uh saying that the the total

00:42:48.360 killed maimed injured on both sides was now running at something like half a million five hundred

00:42:53.940 thousand people this is an absolutely astronomic human cost to this war and that you know you would

00:43:00.240 need to be a sociopath to to be indifferent to it regarding general spider himself i've had my

00:43:06.740 cynical beady eyes on him for about four or five years you remember that when uh president trump said he

00:43:12.400 was going to pardon eddie gallagher for his for war crimes this general spider marx came out and told

00:43:20.880 uh republican uh uh californian uh congressman uh duncan hunter he said keep your mouth shut

00:43:30.100 when an elected representative of the people came out and defended uh gallagher so i've had my eyes on

00:43:37.480 i mean this is clearly a guy i think anyone who would say publicly on television that that a sitting

00:43:42.320 congressman of of either party uh needs to keep their mouth shut and and this guy of course uh hunter he

00:43:49.100 was he was a former u.s marine himself so to say that such a person needs to keep their mouth shut

00:43:54.720 shows you the elevated level that that such a person holds of themselves and where their standing is and

00:44:01.940 i think that's another indication here of sociopathy that that someone would feel so supremely confident

00:44:07.900 to do that specifically about spider marx himself this guy has been for the last 18 months pro ukraine

00:44:14.600 he's been pro kiev he's been with the pom-poms he's a cnn military strategist now he's retired he's been

00:44:21.100 there pushing the ukrainian point of view throughout this conflict so now to come here uh and see him

00:44:27.400 basically saying that they're screwing up and they're screwing up uh because they're not following

00:44:32.360 u.s advice they're defaulting to their preferred military strategies they're overextending themselves

00:44:38.380 uh with this counter-offensive they're replicating the mistakes that he says russia made back in the

00:44:45.280 beginning of the war to see him do this it suggests something is going on steve i think that thing that

00:44:50.580 is going on is this pivot that we've been talking about here on the war room since the vilnius

00:44:55.740 conference um a month or so ago when the west uh pretty much gave president zelensky his notice

00:45:04.680 that there was going to be a retreat uh from their support and one sign and one additional sign that

00:45:11.640 steve that there is a pivot going on it's a look at where president zelensky is today right now he's in

00:45:18.060 greece saturday he was in sweden sunday he was in the netherlands uh yet today uh yesterday today he

00:45:26.100 was in denmark and as i say he's in greece he's on a european tour trying to rally support why because

00:45:32.540 he can see something is taking place and we're going to get further evidence that something is taking

00:45:38.520 place on wednesday when there is the first round of the gop presidential hopefuls you call them

00:45:45.260 keep kibla elves i rather sort of think of them as the seven dwarves without snow white but in any

00:45:50.920 case what happens on wednesday is going to give a pretty good indication what the gop's

00:45:56.320 the growing position is going to be with regards to this 24 billion dollar immediate uh funding that

00:46:04.720 the white house has asked for with um for ukraine we'll get a good indication i think of how

00:46:09.600 the the gop's policy is shaping up on wednesday you're you're first of the kibler elves most of

00:46:18.500 those you know uh chrissy just made a fool of himself he went over there and didn't know any of

00:46:23.820 these facts didn't get briefed on him is not smart enough or understands enough about the military 0.95

00:46:28.540 national career geopolitics to ask the pointed questions he came back with his pom-poms on he just

00:46:33.800 left the country but nikki haley tim scott they're all neocons i mean it's it's a simple oh we're

00:46:39.580 fighting for liberty and freedom it's much much much deeper than that and right now the ukrainian

00:46:45.060 people are paying the the penalty from the escalation party i can tell you there's a firestorm back here

00:46:50.500 of people that said absolutely not one more penny for ukraine get them to the negotiating table

00:46:54.640 but where are they before i lose you where are the ukrainian people's heads right now with this

00:46:59.800 whole situation given that it is this is all driven by these battlefield commanders saying hang

00:47:06.040 on we we heard spider marks and we heard the staff read us and all this stuff about combined arms and

00:47:11.460 we're going to penetrate these multiple levels of defense of the dug-in russians and all we got to do 0.56

00:47:16.800 is take mass casualties but we can get through there it's not working and we're just killing needlessly

00:47:22.100 killing our young men and sometimes women so we're going to stop essentially a mini mutiny of many

00:47:27.860 units that just refuse to fight anymore uh where do the ukraine you have any sense where the ukrainian

00:47:32.700 people's heads are in this absolutely i do steve and again an indication that there is a pivot going

00:47:39.300 on is the way how the press that has been giving us for the last 18 months total propaganda in support

00:47:46.220 of democracy in support of nato in support of the eu and all the rest bizarrely those last two points

00:47:52.360 because of course ukraine isn't part of either those institutions but in defense of all that the

00:47:57.900 western world is trying to defend it was absolutely essential to give ukraine maximum support there's

00:48:03.640 it's very difficult now to open a newspaper and find any article like what we would have found easily

00:48:09.260 six months ago because the tone and the tenor is changing there's another article for example that

00:48:14.980 illustrates this the the situation on the ground that lists how people are being press ganged from

00:48:21.640 nightclubs um and sent basically directly from the front line from the nightclub to the front line

00:48:29.140 there's uh there's an article in fact i might call on it now uh memphis if you'd be very kind of my

00:48:34.720 second article here from the guardian uh which has the headline bribes and hiding at home ukrainian men

00:48:40.680 trying to avoid conscription thanks very much memphis that's that's a brilliant article because it just

00:48:45.720 illustrates what is going on because these guys that you're just referring to steve they know the

00:48:51.900 way how the war is going and they don't want to be sent to a meat grinder so this article here is full

00:48:57.500 of uh anecdotes about uh how people have paid this one guy here paid five thousand dollars for the

00:49:04.120 hospital to sign off on saying that he had a serious spinal injury and he's in fact i'll just i'll just give

00:49:10.560 please go ahead ben ben we're gonna put them up i tell you what i'm gonna get let's get you back

00:49:15.320 on tomorrow because we got to bounce i want to play this uh we had billy joe shaver's classic song

00:49:20.640 today get thee behind me satan we're gonna go out with that song today i know you're a big fan of it

00:49:26.060 ben uh ben what's your social media where do people get you get you back on tomorrow brilliant steve uh

00:49:32.740 getter at harnwell war room.org and then of course the war rooms page on rumble bannon's war room

00:49:39.940 i'll be there i'll see you tomorrow steve god bless thank you brother okay the show's been on fire today

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WarRoom Battleground EP 357： Destruction In Maui Worse Than Middle East; Ukrainians Refusing To Fight

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