Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 369： Romney Promotes More Spending In Ukraine

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:16.040 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:23.800 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:29.560 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:34.640 that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:38.420 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:45.520 stephen k bannon you have a unique perch in your chair on the foreign affairs committee

00:00:51.460 president biden recently asked for more funding for ukraine sending more arms and weapons and dollars

00:00:58.420 to ukraine give us an update in terms of where you think we are and what should we be doing to be

00:01:03.020 most helpful in that space well i begin by saying that instead of thinking about well if biden requests

00:01:08.900 that it must be wrong uh there's my team and his team yeah and instead saying what's in the best

00:01:13.900 interest of the national security for the united states of america and our biggest global threat

00:01:19.160 over the coming century certainly comes from china china has one major ally well more than one when you

00:01:26.240 consider north korea but one major ally and that's russia and so weakening russia is very much in our

00:01:32.160 interest if we're concerned about china and of course russia itself has 1500 nuclear warheads aimed

00:01:38.620 at the united states of america so seeing russia struggle in ukraine having its military decimated

00:01:45.060 without any american loss of life it's really quite extraordinary so for the last two years we have been

00:01:51.720 spending about five percent of our military budget by sending weapons uh to uh to ukraine to help them

00:01:58.620 in their battle against russia it is very much in our interest we spend about 750 to 800 billion a year

00:02:06.840 on our national defense that's to protect us from people like russia to take 50 of that each year

00:02:12.640 and use that to strengthen ukraine is the smartest thing we could do and probably the

00:02:17.900 that the most cost effective and certainly life effective way uh we could weaken someone who

00:02:23.920 has the potential to become an enemy okay welcome it's friday um september 8th 8th september

00:02:32.220 year of alert 2023 welcome back i thank natalie for the first hour i've got the second i'll also be

00:02:39.180 here uh tomorrow morning one of the things we're doing tomorrow morning we're going to have caroline

00:02:43.620 rand is going to give us a kind of a walkthrough of the um of all the senate races that are important

00:02:50.300 i think we're gonna go through about 10 of them tomorrow and the reason is is that already as we're

00:02:56.440 sitting here the senate is actually back in the house does not come back until

00:03:01.240 tuesday and we've talked a lot about this conference that um uh mccarthy's going to have on tuesday

00:03:08.060 we're going to get the whole conference in there and try to convince them to give a uh continue

00:03:12.840 resolution and then basically get ready for an omnibus bill the exact same disaster that we've been

00:03:19.900 going through for years and years and years and now the two trillion dollar uh deficit all the lies and

00:03:26.460 misrepresentations are gone you see exactly it's going to be two trillion dollars this year it's going

00:03:30.440 to be two trillion dollars in perpetuity until some adults that start standing up uh and taking

00:03:36.240 accountability and responsibility for this mess the republican senate's not going to do it or hasn't

00:03:42.080 done it to date in fact they have exacerbated the problem 19 of them have on occasions voted for

00:03:48.020 biden's the most radical parts of his program not just the seven trillion dollars a year remember it's

00:03:53.180 seven trillion a year we're bringing in five so it's two trillion dollars a year deficits we gave you

00:03:57.780 the math eight months ago when they lied about it it's also an additional five trillion dollars of

00:04:03.040 additional spending on every boondoggle uh crony capitalism project from green new deal to increase

00:04:09.800 uh defense spending and mitt romney is one of the worst and so we've invited uh trent staggs is kind

00:04:17.280 of a preamble to are going through all these senate races tomorrow to join us he's in utah he's announcing

00:04:23.980 he's running in the republican primary against mitt romney you just saw right there mitt's one of the

00:04:29.660 biggest cheerleaders for this continued involvement in in ukraine constant involvement in ukraine and

00:04:35.000 he's one of the biggest cheerleaders back this week of mitch mcconnell and and basically doing

00:04:40.980 appropriations bills that locks in the seven trillion dollars of the spending under uh under joe

00:04:48.080 biden that's going to already we already know this year fiscal year ends 30 september we got two

00:04:52.860 trillion dollar uh deficit this year of another two trillion dollar plus next year with increased

00:04:58.160 interest rates trent staggs your assessment of mitch romney the job he's been doing

00:05:02.980 well clearly i think it's uh it's been a disastrous policy uh policies that he's pursued and why i'm

00:05:10.760 entering the race uh why our campaign has received so much support and so much traction you saw there

00:05:17.540 oh it's not my camp and biden's camp uh well yeah of course you you actually agree with biden

00:05:23.780 mitt 60 percent of the time you're voting along those lines and you have supported this spending

00:05:30.760 this reckless spending and as you said steven we have to have adults that will actually be in

00:05:35.920 washington representing us i'm a mayor i've represented my community for 10 years i've had to

00:05:41.520 balance my budget our households do it um the federal government just thinks that they are exempt from

00:05:46.960 that and they can continue these multi-trillion dollar deficits uh indefinitely and it's just a

00:05:53.860 joke um and and i saw also that you know senator romney is there already signaling defeat oh well we

00:06:00.860 can't have a government shutdown we need to come to some uh some agreement and yeah unfortunately it

00:06:07.480 looks like another continuing resolution that will be in the works here let me ask you well get to the

00:06:13.960 constituents the great state of utah all the patriots out there one of the most um maga states uh around

00:06:20.820 of patriots very conservative romney is it's not simply they saying you can't do a government shutdown

00:06:29.520 it'll be bad which is against all historical evidence when it was shut down in 13 we had big wins

00:06:34.000 in 14 what people want to see done is right but i i don't understand he doesn't really have a solution

00:06:41.380 of this what is your understanding what's the best understanding you have trent you're running

00:06:45.160 against him you guys have deconstructed all his positions what is what right now is mitt romney's

00:06:51.560 plan to stop increasing the national debt which to me ought to be the absolute first and foremost what

00:06:57.600 is his what plan has he put forward to to close the gap deficit because everything i see is that

00:07:02.360 he's actually one of mitch mcconnell's biggest cheerleaders he is yeah he's one of his foot soldiers and

00:07:08.200 he's going to do his bidding and that's why we need somebody who is a true outsider a true

00:07:12.300 conservative that can step up and push back against the establishment that's typified my career that's

00:07:16.420 what i would do you know to answer the question he doesn't have a plan he came out and moved to utah

00:07:22.340 some year you know five six years ago ran for this office he told folks look i will put us on a path

00:07:29.500 to a balanced budget he claimed he would end illegal immigration he'd stop federal spending and overreach

00:07:34.140 and he'd appoint conservative justices to the court his record is the complete opposite of that and

00:07:40.140 with respect to spending there is no plan it's just blank check after blank check very interestingly

00:07:46.540 enough we've called him out too he's rarely shows up to utah and when we put that out there just

00:07:52.820 recently and it i think forced him to kind of come back because for the first time in i don't know how

00:07:59.080 many years i actually saw him show up here during the august recess and he was touting what was he

00:08:03.960 touting he was touting the spending that he did the trillions of dollars he's voted for and the

00:08:09.080 infrastructure bill and other things that have caused this 32 to 33 trillion dollar debt that is

00:08:15.360 crushing crushing utah families with inflation and just the cost of everyday items and purchases

00:08:23.300 has gotten so out of control um you know it's really disappointing to see here is somebody in

00:08:29.320 mitt romney that purports that putting us on a path to a balanced budget and spending controls are

00:08:33.320 such a great priority or at least he claimed they were five years ago for him now to not even support

00:08:39.440 i mean when we had back in may these debt ceiling negotiations and senator lee our great senator lee

00:08:46.800 put together a letter saying we're not going to raise the debt ceiling biden unless you come to the

00:08:51.480 table negotiate and we go through some substantive spending cuts and budget reforms he had 42 other

00:08:57.060 republicans that signed on that including mitch mcconnell and mitt romney would not put his name

00:09:03.480 to that letter and i would have proudly done that i would have held the line and actually got some real

00:09:09.280 reform and some negotiations in place that are going to put us on a different path because right now

00:09:13.760 what we have is unsustainable and what we get from mitt is just more of the same talk and more of the same

00:09:18.960 spending trent when i think of utah and having spent time out there in the in the uh in the kind

00:09:27.740 of unforgiving environment that the first settlers to utah uh showed up the the mormon families and what

00:09:35.000 they made from that state one thing about utah is that they're very practical very pragmatic

00:09:41.420 what do they think when when romney's back there what are the citizens of utah think about

00:09:48.000 when he presents his plan he talks about the spending he talks about the uh these bills that

00:09:53.860 he supported of uh of biden's spending bills what what is reaction of a practical pragmatic people

00:10:00.060 yeah they they just the reaction is this person is not representing us and that's that's what i've said

00:10:07.220 i'm running for u.s senate because massachusetts doesn't need a third senator we need somebody

00:10:12.140 who's from utah you know my my whole life from elementary school to graduate school i've attended

00:10:16.780 utah schools i've raised my family here i've started businesses i've run companies i helped take a company

00:10:21.580 public in the energy space i understand this great state i understand it um and and i understand what

00:10:28.100 utahns want and utahns as you said are very pragmatic they're practical uh they're hard-working very

00:10:35.280 industrious and they do not like debt um again balancing my budget every year the last 10 years

00:10:42.440 of running my community our state does the same they expect the same of their federal government and

00:10:48.160 it hasn't been uh it has just not been something they've they've delivered uh the the spending is

00:10:54.260 out of control the regulation the regulatory framework is completely out of control we need the

00:10:59.000 reigns act immediately um we we just we've got to stop the progressivism as well that's infiltrated

00:11:06.080 and been endorsed wholeheartedly by this administration uh all the way across from the

00:11:10.280 military to uh to education they just they want to have local control and they want sensible very sensible

00:11:18.200 government and they're not getting it from senator romney and the rest of the crew right now on the

00:11:23.240 democratic side for sure but unfortunately a few within the republican party

00:11:27.920 uh transfer let you go there there was an incident out a couple of weeks ago uh in in utah and uh the

00:11:37.240 fbi had a rate on uh individual's house we know that that person was 300 pounds had a tough time getting

00:11:43.820 around he had said some things on social media uh that were uh quite frankly you know unacceptable

00:11:50.060 uh but they they were kind of this heated uh you know these heated kind of blow-off comments that

00:11:56.820 one does once on social media he was gunned down by the fbi and they refused to release the body

00:12:03.160 cams or any other information do you do are you familiar with any additional information coming out

00:12:08.920 from that or how does that set with you that this can happen to an individual regardless of what he said

00:12:14.180 on social media and and we've really had a lockdown and and got no information the reason is important

00:12:19.460 another situation happened with an army vet in tennessee and it's kind of the same stonewalling

00:12:24.960 within a couple weeks each other the fbi has gone in and essentially gunned down uh one i i i take it a

00:12:32.780 virtually disabled guy that weighed 300 pounds and supposedly a nice guy the neighbors all liked him

00:12:37.540 said he was a little out there right but but a harmless guy uh and the same thing appears to have

00:12:43.360 happened in tennessee any thoughts on that well this is why i think people don't trust the government

00:12:50.700 and why so many of these agencies you've seen have been weaponized and pursuing uh citizens they're

00:12:57.580 they're really uh going after them with with almost reckless abandon at times and yeah we don't want to

00:13:05.480 uh we don't want to condone any any violence or violent rhetoric but at the same time i think they

00:13:12.280 need to do a pretty fair analysis of whether uh you know of the threat and to come in guns a-blazing

00:13:19.020 and with all of that use of force i mean look i have a police department i've got a great chief of

00:13:24.960 police we have body cams um we have policies and procedures that that really want to put out there

00:13:35.180 as best we can be as transparent as we can i should say so that we can always have the full faith

00:13:41.220 and confidence of our of our citizens and uh for them to hold that back and not release that footage

00:13:47.740 uh as they've done time and again across the country we're certain of these episodes

00:13:51.100 is is problematic and i think it's just emblematic of why many citizens don't trust

00:13:57.780 their government and we have to be able to restore that again

00:14:00.620 trent this gets i want to take this back to the budget because you know this fight

00:14:06.720 overspending one is just the absolute scale of it and it's not sustainable and people talk about

00:14:13.800 entitlement social security medicare before you get to the entitlements before you get to the

00:14:18.000 entitlements you have to take care of just the overall scale of the spending and what that's doing

00:14:23.000 as far as driving the deficit the other aspect of it is not only are we spending ourselves in a

00:14:29.340 bankruptcy we're actually financing a woke and weaponized government now the house has taken

00:14:35.660 some real has really taken that to task and that's why there's going to be this you know this

00:14:40.460 catechism clash over the next couple weeks of of of um hardcore uh freedom caucus and others

00:14:48.580 in the house of representatives saying the scale of it's not acceptable but also what we are funding

00:14:53.380 in that's not acceptable and that woke and weaponized has got to come out romney and the guys in the

00:14:58.340 sentiment and when the senate have essentially signed off on most of this so as a united states

00:15:02.940 senator just walk me through your logic of how you would look at the budget and the appropriations

00:15:09.460 as a method to uh de-weaponize this government to get the woke out what what's your what's your line

00:15:16.720 of attack on that well we can't continue to have continuing resolutions i mean we actually have to

00:15:22.280 have an appropriations process we've got to go through well the 12 separate bills at a time you know

00:15:27.260 having talked with senator lee on this issue i think that they've laid out a really good framework

00:15:31.320 we have to have that process it has to be transparent it has to have the opportunity for

00:15:35.440 amendments and through that uh through that ability that congress has it should be uniquely theirs the

00:15:41.180 power of the purse uh those those types of programs can and should be done away with and there's

00:15:48.960 no room for that i think in the federal government i've indicated that on my website at

00:15:53.420 trentstags.com it's one of my main issues i'm hearing families here that are concerned about

00:15:59.000 that and i i say that look as your senator i will definitely be woke's worst nightmare we need to have

00:16:07.500 a complete wall of separation between woke and state and ensure that it isn't this this type of

00:16:14.760 insidious practice doesn't infiltrate across the federal government as it as it has sadly so i think

00:16:22.140 there are plenty of opportunities to go through a true appropriations process and ensure that that

00:16:29.200 funding is withheld for these types of programs i've heard many uh many in congress that have put

00:16:36.800 forth some great ideas along these lines and would wholeheartedly support those and hopefully lead on

00:16:41.780 them myself decision time's coming so mitt romney is saying there's nothing that there's no win here

00:16:48.220 by forcing biden to shut down his government do you see things in this appropriations process in

00:16:54.060 this budget if they didn't come out as a matter of principle you would take a stand on saying you

00:16:58.960 can't have my vote and if biden's got to shut it down so be it sir yeah i mean absolutely we need to

00:17:06.740 be able to take a stand and and say if if these types of woke practices i mean i love what senator

00:17:12.520 tuberville is doing right now and holding the line uh with respect to uh the the misuse of military

00:17:19.520 appropriations you know and in paying for abortions and other things that's uh that's something that

00:17:25.060 you just you can't stand for we actually have to have a budget too that's trending in the right

00:17:29.240 direction like you just you just stated uh this can't go on indefinitely we've got to have things that

00:17:35.420 are are getting us back to a level of fiscal sanity and not just continuing the status quo and

00:17:42.320 fortunately i have seen that at every layer of government it's just endemic it's something that

00:17:47.100 happens and you have to have folks that have experience doing that like i have in actually

00:17:53.120 getting out uh bringing uh bringing federalism back and allowing uh localities and individuals

00:18:02.440 to take over much much of what is being done at higher layers of government including the federal

00:18:09.220 government so absolutely there are some some must-haves that's that's something that we have

00:18:15.040 to have this budget has to be moving back in the right direction uh mayor staggs how do people find

00:18:23.540 out more about your senate run because this is going to be one of the epic battles i think all the

00:18:28.060 indications now i was of the belief that mitt romney might wave off and run third party i think caroline

00:18:33.200 is going to address this tomorrow i think a lot of people are saying that it looks like he may be all

00:18:37.440 in uh for re-election still not be it still hasn't been determined yet but how do people find out more

00:18:43.040 about you yeah it hasn't and we're seeing more and more signs that he could run he keeps delaying this

00:18:48.940 decisioning now till late fall um he's been a much more active the last few weeks like we said we

00:18:53.600 finally forced him back out to utah and he's he's uh the the the way this segment started um taking

00:19:01.420 media here locally is is unique and rare but at trendstags.com people can go there um can donate

00:19:08.900 can help out the campaign we've been very very blessed we've now received small dollar donations

00:19:13.440 from people across all 50 states from patriots and conservatives across all 50 states uh thousands

00:19:18.400 of donors we need that we need that this campaign is truly funded by you by patriots out there i am not

00:19:26.600 part of the establishment i don't have lobbyists that are contributing to my campaign or super packs or

00:19:33.280 other things that that really are controlling me um mitt has the establishment behind him he's going to

00:19:40.000 have that as you indicated uh with with doing mcconnell's bidding and so we want to be able to reclaim

00:19:47.020 this this is important not just for the state of utah to put somebody that truly reflects utah values

00:19:51.800 and true conservative into dc representing the state but it's it's very important for the entire

00:19:57.560 country and that's why i think we've received these donations we've got so many great folks supporting

00:20:02.680 and we're going to need that to continue we're only about seven months out from our state convention here

00:20:08.520 in this great state of utah and we're building up more and more every single day this this coalition

00:20:15.260 continues to build with scores of national and local endorsements um i'm excited about what's going on

00:20:23.380 and and really encouraged by all the folks that are coming out and supporting us

00:20:27.560 uh by the way i think your strategy is right you smoke him out and make you spend more time in utah

00:20:33.960 i think that his uh his ratings will definitely drop the more people see him i think the less they like

00:20:39.200 so i think it's a great strategy mayor staggs thank you for coming on the war and appreciate it

00:20:44.160 thank you again okay one of the most important uh cases going on in the country is not getting the

00:20:49.760 attention it should is the disbarment hearing i think out in orange county california of john

00:20:55.120 eastman who was really president trump or the the senior lawyer and going through trying to stop

00:21:00.880 the steal i think one of the top constitutional lawyers in the country someone's been covering it

00:21:05.480 intensely is rachel alexander rachel thank you for joining us walk us through first off just for

00:21:10.700 audience i know most people know but who john eastman is what's his importance of this why he's

00:21:15.520 named in every other uh every other case central case to the trump uh stop the steal movement and why

00:21:22.680 are they trying to disbar him john eastman is arguably the foremost constitutional legal scholar

00:21:30.640 in the country that is why this is significant they're not going after some you know person they

00:21:35.980 can label as fringe they are going after somebody who knows the law and the constitution better than

00:21:41.400 anybody and basically what's going on is they the left is going after him because they want to use this

00:21:47.840 as a precedent to scare other conservative attorneys from ever challenging elections where they believe

00:21:53.940 there was fraud and and you know doesn't even matter if it's not technically fraud illegal wrongdoing

00:21:59.800 where in the past if it wasn't involving republicans losing judges would frequently order that the trials

00:22:05.760 that uh that uh elections would be overturned and redone so this is an absolute travesty of justice i'm

00:22:13.380 i'm now in the what fourth week of covering this and it's just a kangaroo court everybody can tell from the

00:22:19.240 very beginning the judge who was donated to democrats while sitting on the bench um it's a given all of

00:22:25.740 her calls are pretty much extremely biased against eastman and pro the state bar uh allowing in all

00:22:33.240 this evidence that's absolutely irrelevant to him and the way she doesn't even understand that the

00:22:38.580 electoral count act was amended in 2022 to state that the vice president cannot decide uh disputed slates

00:22:46.720 the electors the woman is just way out of her league and eastman is essentially just non-stop

00:22:52.680 schooling her and the state bar attorney it's kind of a show yeah i know this is one of the ones that i love

00:22:59.340 about your car your coverage i want to get back and get some basics correct me if i'm wrong i'm not a lawyer

00:23:04.940 the vast majority of our audience are not lawyers in this disbarment is this like rudy and other guys are going

00:23:11.200 after is this to take his law license away to practice in the state of california so he then

00:23:16.420 wouldn't be able to teach or he then wouldn't be able to actually practice at the bar of california

00:23:21.660 he would not be able to basically make a living in california is that what they're trying to do in

00:23:25.780 orange county yes and what a lot of non-lawyers don't understand is once you're disbarred in one

00:23:32.140 state the other states reciprocity they will not let you practice either so once he's barred in

00:23:37.940 california he won't be able to practice anywhere else in the entire country now are there going to

00:23:43.320 be a few brave universities like the liberty university types that might hire him yes i believe

00:23:50.360 uh it might be the i think the kansas former attorney general might have been disbarred and i think he is

00:23:56.540 now a professor at a university like that but that's pretty much the only exception you know or you

00:24:02.720 know the bar destroyed my law license it's been to me for six months but they can't stop me from

00:24:07.440 opining all i want now as a as a legal analyst type

00:24:10.660 uh rachel can you hang on for a second because i want to get into some of the details you bring up

00:24:16.460 the electoral count act you also bring up the fact that one of the great things about following your

00:24:21.800 coverage is every day you're just you're pointing out where uh where eastman is literally almost like

00:24:28.800 teaching a seminar they're coming at him and attacking him and coming from every angle and he's

00:24:33.920 sitting there correcting them to to what the proper understanding of the constitution the proper

00:24:39.220 understanding of the law we've got rachel alexander here this is probably the most underreported story

00:24:46.120 that has massive impact in the country it's the dismarvent hearing of john eastman and john

00:24:51.520 eastman's absolutely central to everything president trump uh tried to do and really making sure that the

00:24:58.340 2020 election was not stolen eastman was the constitutional scholar on top of that okay we're

00:25:03.520 gonna take a short break we're gonna be back with rachel alexander on the trial of john eastman in a moment

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00:31:59.500 War Room Battleground with Stephen K.

00:32:01.880 Bannon.

00:32:02.100 I want to tell the team, Logan and the team in Memphis, and of course my crack team here,

00:32:08.060 I just got this across.

00:32:09.140 I'll get it over to you guys in a second so you can post it.

00:32:11.240 But, and this, I think, goes to the quality of the coverage that Richard Alexander's doing

00:32:17.320 of the case.

00:32:18.700 And also what's actually coming up.

00:32:20.620 You know, my good buddy Cernovich, who was with us in 14, 15, and 16, really one of the

00:32:25.960 key guys in the social media efforts for the Trump movement.

00:32:29.040 And everybody knows Mike has gone a little bit off the reservation over the last year

00:32:33.700 or two, but hey, he's still a, he's still a comrade in arms.

00:32:36.740 I want to quote from Cernovich who just put this up and I quote, the John Eastman disbarment

00:32:43.200 hearing has made me, that would be Cernovich, full on 2020 is stolen person.

00:32:49.800 If you've been following it, you realize what a travesty it was that John Eastman wasn't

00:32:55.140 point man on all the election issues, unquote.

00:33:00.260 Rachel, I want to address this right now because Cernovich is a great guy, but he hasn't been

00:33:04.720 with us for a while.

00:33:05.500 One of his big problems, I think, was these issues related to the 2020 steal.

00:33:10.100 He says by watching it and then looking at your coverage that Cernovich, he Cernovich is

00:33:15.460 now full on 2020 stolen guy.

00:33:18.160 What's your assessment of that, of what's just been put out, the content that you've seen

00:33:21.580 put out in the disbarment hearings?

00:33:22.860 Do you think it also will drive even-handed people that are looking at this with an open

00:33:28.480 mind to that conclusion?

00:33:30.540 I do.

00:33:31.820 I mean, if it influenced Cernovich, and he's a very brilliant guy, what I think is going

00:33:36.880 on there is the fact that Eastman is just the top intelligent person in the country on

00:33:44.440 the right on this issue.

00:33:46.820 And he is so laser sharp.

00:33:49.400 You cannot catch him.

00:33:50.820 The whole trial has been an absolute travesty, just watching the judge try to slip him up.

00:33:59.600 And she's tag-teaming with the bar counsel.

00:34:02.540 I mean, it's not just a couple little incidents a day.

00:34:05.440 It's just nonstop if you're watching my coverage.

00:34:08.340 It is like 20 outrageous, ridiculous things that would never happen in a regular court of

00:34:13.240 law happening during the day.

00:34:14.640 It's, I've never seen anything this bad.

00:34:17.200 And, you know, I'm a longtime prosecutor and Maricopa County elections attorney.

00:34:21.760 You know, I've seen it all.

00:34:23.780 And this is just, we are in a different era.

00:34:26.780 And I think, I think the tide is starting to change.

00:34:29.900 I just know we have to be very clever about it.

00:34:33.460 You know, you can't just sit there and throw out the words election fraud because the left

00:34:37.260 is so smart.

00:34:38.080 They'll trick us and they'll say, well, you didn't prove election fraud.

00:34:41.000 Well, okay.

00:34:41.640 It was breaking the law.

00:34:43.560 You might've broken the law.

00:34:44.660 I might not technically be called election fraud, but it is illegality.

00:34:48.500 And then, so Eastman is really good at getting out all these nuances and getting ahead of

00:34:54.500 their spin.

00:34:57.160 I want to go to this because lawfare is the thing, one of the things that are coming at

00:35:00.920 President Trump.

00:35:01.800 It's a line of work that they hope to ensnare him.

00:35:06.160 One, why is that dangerous for the country?

00:35:09.220 And what is this trial showing specifically that people should be concerned about or quite

00:35:14.360 frankly, afraid of the direction of the country from a breakdown of rule of law to now essentially

00:35:19.680 the road to a totalitarian authoritarian dictatorship?

00:35:24.680 The frightening thing about lawfare is, you know, this country has three branches that govern

00:35:29.820 us and one is the judicial branch.

00:35:31.580 And if they take over this, you know, legal branch with their lawfare, that's a huge segment

00:35:39.960 that they're going to control.

00:35:41.220 And legal stuff is involved in so many aspects of our lives now.

00:35:45.540 You know, they use the courts for everything.

00:35:47.200 You know, you got to dispute over the election, you go to the courts.

00:35:50.100 So if they're taking all this over, this is terrifying.

00:35:52.520 And the part that scares me, you know, as a recovering attorney is they are pretty much

00:35:57.940 scaring all of our attorneys out from ever representing us on all kinds of issues, not

00:36:03.420 just election fraud, but COVID and anything that they don't like.

00:36:06.700 And, you know, I used to think I was poor me.

00:36:09.820 You know, they came after me 12 years ago, whatever.

00:36:12.380 No, it's everybody now.

00:36:13.920 Every conservative election attorney I know in Arizona has either had a bar complaint

00:36:18.940 filed against them that they're fighting or they've already been disciplined.

00:36:22.780 They're at risk of getting disbarred.

00:36:25.180 We're not going to have anybody left to represent us if this is allowed to keep going.

00:36:30.120 Now, I want to drill down the second because this is what they're trying to do.

00:36:33.500 And not just with our top attorneys, they're also putting the law firms on notice that they

00:36:38.380 will get the clients to complain.

00:36:39.760 I mean, it's going to be almost impossible to you in a litigious environment.

00:36:44.720 And it's not just an election fraud like you talk about.

00:36:47.380 It's across the board on so many different elements of what MAGA is fighting for.

00:36:52.760 Talk to me about the law firms because right now, unless you're almost a sole practitioner

00:36:56.340 and they're still coming after you, if you're a firm, they go after the firms and say, well,

00:37:01.400 you can't represent these people as clients.

00:37:03.160 Or we're going to make a bar complaint, have a couple of your attorneys disbarred, which

00:37:07.360 is a mark against the firm.

00:37:08.580 Give me your assessment of that.

00:37:11.340 It's even broader than that.

00:37:12.900 It comes down to free speech as well.

00:37:15.060 You know, the only reason I'm the only one, you know, in the country on the conservative

00:37:18.880 side that's closely covering this is because people with my background, right, are mostly

00:37:24.000 still licensed attorneys and they can't say a word.

00:37:26.900 They have to be completely quiet.

00:37:28.640 And so people keep saying, well, you know, there's no evidence of election fraud and

00:37:32.280 there was nothing wrong done.

00:37:33.780 Nobody can speak up and push back who actually understands these things and is seeing all

00:37:37.700 these cases dismissed on technicalities and understands the doctrine of lashes and no

00:37:42.880 jurisdiction and, you know, all those issues like that.

00:37:45.760 They've all been silenced.

00:37:47.400 And so to me, that's the broader key thing that's happening here.

00:37:52.260 We're basically shutting down an entire segment of knowledgeable people, the attorneys.

00:38:02.100 Do does MAGR, the conservative movement?

00:38:04.580 And I know the National Review crowd is punched out of this and the donors.

00:38:07.700 But if you look at lawfare, you've got Mike Lindell, who they're basically trying to bankrupt

00:38:11.820 because he's gone and supported and, you know, he's underwritten much as I think his

00:38:16.100 legal bills are going after election fraud is twenty five million dollars or north.

00:38:20.140 You've got Eastman in California.

00:38:22.360 You've got Paxton that's being impeached in Texas.

00:38:26.800 You've got obviously the situation in Georgia with with with Fonnie Willis.

00:38:31.180 Right.

00:38:31.440 And those folks, you've got the electors in in in Michigan that I was just on a telethon

00:38:37.400 for the other day.

00:38:38.520 You know, the average age of these electors is like 73 years old.

00:38:41.920 I think they're looking at, I don't know, 14 to 30 years in a federal prison, millions

00:38:46.040 of dollars, legal fees.

00:38:47.160 We know that Arizona, I think, is going to move on the electors.

00:38:50.640 Nevada looks like it may move on the electors.

00:38:53.480 Wisconsin, the governor's talking about moving on the electors.

00:38:57.420 In addition, in Arizona, there's so many suits.

00:39:00.240 In fact, next week for two days, we're going to be covering besides because we stream your

00:39:05.060 coverage.

00:39:05.460 So we streamed the Eastman trial.

00:39:07.620 We're also going to be streaming Carrie Lakes back in court, I think, for two days next

00:39:11.880 week.

00:39:12.700 Do do you think people understand the scale of this right now?

00:39:16.040 And I'm not even including all the Trump situation, you know, Navarro just last week.

00:39:20.480 But the lawfare part of this, they're coming after every senior person in the MAGA movement.

00:39:26.680 And in addition, they're coming for every lawyer associated with the MAGA movement.

00:39:30.440 And they're coming for any patriot that tries to step up and do their duty for the Constitution.

00:39:35.980 Do you think that do you think that people understand the scale of this warfare right now

00:39:40.760 is unlike anything that's ever happened in American political life?

00:39:45.620 I think they do.

00:39:47.020 I don't think we're quite to the tipping point where we're going to get, you know, most

00:39:50.920 enough people involved to make a difference yet.

00:39:54.220 I think we're on our way there.

00:39:55.620 And I just want to emphasize this, OK?

00:39:58.660 This is my own personal opinion.

00:40:00.540 But when people say, oh, you know, we can't still support Trump for president because he's

00:40:05.020 got all this baggage with them coming after him.

00:40:07.380 That's exactly the reason we need to support him.

00:40:10.540 Because if we don't, you know, fight back against all the bogus lawfare, they're just

00:40:15.780 going to move on to the next guy.

00:40:17.200 So, you know, I don't have a big problem with DeSantis.

00:40:19.640 But if we all just move on to DeSantis right now, what are they going to do?

00:40:22.560 They're going to come after DeSantis and prosecute him.

00:40:27.460 So that's an interesting point.

00:40:28.660 I want to drill down a second.

00:40:29.840 You're saying, hey, even if you have problems with Trump, because the Trump supporters are

00:40:34.140 always, you know, MAGA and the war room posse and all of us will always be there.

00:40:38.960 But you're saying for those, a lot of those people saying about electability has got so

00:40:42.000 much baggage, they're missing the point.

00:40:44.440 And you're seeing this because you're up close coverage that if we move on from Trump, it's

00:40:50.860 not like they're not going to come after the next anybody that actually goes up against

00:40:54.440 the system, anybody goes up against the radical Democrats and the kind of uniparty, they're

00:40:58.760 going to come after them using the same tactics and techniques that they came after President

00:41:03.780 Trump.

00:41:05.680 That's right.

00:41:06.520 If we don't stop them, they're going to make a blueprint.

00:41:10.700 They're going to have all these, you know, what do you call it, procedures all laid out,

00:41:17.320 such as the disbarment trial of John Eastman.

00:41:20.360 Other state bars can then just, boom, copy it.

00:41:23.340 It'll be so much easier to then take down the next attorney.

00:41:26.620 And same with the prosecutions.

00:41:28.580 Once they're able to prosecute a few people for election fraud, like in Georgia or, you

00:41:33.260 know, D.C., then they're going to be able to prosecute any conservative who challenges

00:41:39.140 elections from then on.

00:41:40.500 And once they've mastered the elections, I mean, it's all over.

00:41:45.240 You've seen this aspect.

00:41:46.640 They're coming after President Trump now in the 14th Amendment.

00:41:49.140 I've said from the beginning, we've had Dershowitz and others on.

00:41:52.000 Mike Davis, another constitutional scholar, saying there's nothing based in the Constitution

00:41:55.580 about this.

00:41:56.340 It's ridiculous.

00:41:57.120 They're trying to use the post-Civil War, a 14th Amendment, I think, Section 3 or Article

00:42:02.080 3 from it.

00:42:03.220 But they've now created a political firestorm.

00:42:05.940 They're trying to get to the state assemblies or trying to get into the general assemblies

00:42:09.580 of state to actually get one of these secretaries of state to take him off the ballot.

00:42:13.900 And we know now that there's a lot of this is funded by the by the Republican elite.

00:42:20.660 Do you believe, besides going after people like Eastman and besides doing things like going

00:42:26.300 after the 14th Amendment, is there any other things you see on the horizon that we can anticipate

00:42:31.300 where they're either going to come after President Trump or the MAGA movement?

00:42:34.800 Well, the one thing that I have really noticed is that unlike us on the right, the left is

00:42:44.700 looking for every possible way it can take Trump out illegally or not illegally.

00:42:50.640 And if it is illegal, they're going to try to wait to stretch it and pretend like it is

00:42:55.320 legal.

00:42:55.820 They've got the courts on their side.

00:42:58.320 So I haven't completely brainstormed about a lot of different ideas.

00:43:03.220 As a journalist, my big concern is being sued with a libel lawsuit.

00:43:08.360 So I believe that that is one angle we're going to see.

00:43:12.600 It's just more of the lawfare.

00:43:14.400 But, you know, they're going to come up with all these crazy new ways to sue us.

00:43:18.780 You know, the racketeering one, you know, in Georgia, I think we're going to see a lot more

00:43:24.980 racketeering lawsuits because they're so broad and vague.

00:43:27.460 I've written about them a lot because, you know, I was the head attorney on one against

00:43:30.680 the corrupt Maricopa County supervisors here.

00:43:33.100 But you can use those against almost anybody.

00:43:36.200 So I think people in the MAGA movement, we're going to see lawsuits filed against us.

00:43:41.000 And I just want to add, we just need to start supporting the conservative attorneys.

00:43:48.080 I'm actually trying to start a group to support conservative attorneys and also go after the

00:43:53.000 left-wing attorneys like the J-65 project does.

00:43:55.700 You know, we've got attorneys like Alex Haberman representing John Eastman.

00:43:59.940 You know, he's likely to be the next target himself.

00:44:02.280 So you see where this is all going?

00:44:04.180 And, you know, I'm sure you know Carrie Lake, who has great attorneys, but they are not

00:44:08.160 election attorneys.

00:44:08.980 So our side really just needs to start backing these attorneys up and not letting them hang

00:44:14.560 out to dry.

00:44:16.880 And so you're saying RICO charges, racketeering charges, defamation, libel, they're going

00:44:21.780 to go after the others that this is, and you're right, the Democrats, as epitomized by Mark

00:44:27.040 Elias, they have great, they're all evil, but they're very smart as far as every aspect of

00:44:32.460 election law.

00:44:33.160 They're specialists in this.

00:44:34.520 And these people are always on the attack.

00:44:36.300 They look at, they look at the law as a weapon, right?

00:44:39.480 We look, we have a very classical or kind of American view of the law, right?

00:44:45.740 That justice is blind.

00:44:47.000 They don't look at it that way.

00:44:48.120 They look at the law as something that they can weaponize and then use against their opponents

00:44:52.700 or their enemies.

00:44:53.680 And I think that's the cultural difference that we've got to start thinking of.

00:44:57.180 We have to think, we have to start thinking in the terms they think in, because they have

00:45:01.160 certainly weaponized this against us.

00:45:03.260 And that's why I think the Eastman trial is so important.

00:45:05.440 What should people look forward in the next couple of weeks?

00:45:08.000 Walk us through where we are in the Eastman trial.

00:45:09.980 Where are we going to go?

00:45:10.900 What will she look for in your coverage?

00:45:12.320 Well, the Eastman team finally got to put on its own case beginning yesterday, which means

00:45:20.040 its own witnesses, and it gets to direct examine them.

00:45:23.720 And so basically today we're in the middle of testimony from Wisconsin former Supreme

00:45:28.940 Court Justice Michael Gableman, which has just been bombshell testimony, as you know.

00:45:35.700 So we're going to be hearing more of that the next day or two.

00:45:38.240 And then we're going to hear from some character witnesses of Eastman.

00:45:42.240 And I'll be honest, this judge, she's trying to keep all of Eastman's witnesses out of the

00:45:48.220 trial.

00:45:48.960 Yet she's let so many witnesses in for the bar that have nothing to do with Eastman.

00:45:53.600 Nothing to do.

00:45:54.360 They either got involved with it way after he was involved with the 2020 election challenges,

00:45:58.800 or they were in some state that he wasn't even working in.

00:46:02.200 So we're going to see them fight it out, see which one of those witnesses are included.

00:46:05.500 And there's probably going to be another week going of the trial next week, and then another

00:46:10.500 few days whenever they can coordinate with people's schedules.

00:46:15.240 Rachel, I want to do two things.

00:46:16.560 I want to make sure people know how to get to your coverage of Eastman's trial, because

00:46:19.640 it is incredible.

00:46:21.120 It's very important.

00:46:22.380 And number two, how do we get to your other websites, social media, and your other writings?

00:46:27.240 Thank you.

00:46:27.880 My coverage is pretty much going to be all on thestarnewsnetwork.com, and it's also run

00:46:34.220 on our local subsidiary Arizona Sun-Times.

00:46:38.340 And please follow me on X.

00:46:40.620 That's where I'm doing all this live coverage of the trial.

00:46:43.180 My username there is Rach underscore IC, and my personal website is intellectualconservative.com.

00:46:50.800 Rachel, Michael Patrick Leahy and the team over at the Star News Network, fantastic job.

00:46:55.600 And thank you for doing this.

00:46:56.660 Thank you for covering it.

00:46:57.480 John Eastman's a good man, and he's fighting a good fight.

00:47:01.680 And we need Eastman back on the battlefield.

00:47:04.000 So thank you for covering this.

00:47:06.040 Thanks for having me on.

00:47:06.740 I appreciate it.

00:47:09.140 Thanks.

00:47:10.500 Michael Patrick Leahy, one of the great—you know, you've got Revolver.

00:47:13.220 You've got Gateway Pundit.

00:47:14.820 You've got all the star newspapers throughout the country.

00:47:17.460 You've got Creative Destruction Media.

00:47:20.340 You've got Citizen Free Press.

00:47:21.860 So we have so many different assets out there now, and so many more I can name right now

00:47:25.880 if I had the time.

00:47:27.000 But you've got so many of these emerging alternative media that give some tremendous coverage.

00:47:32.360 And I think Rachel is a perfect example.

00:47:35.880 Tomorrow, we're going to get back into it.

00:47:38.020 We've got an all-star cast of some of our heavies because we've got to break down.

00:47:41.320 A lot of things are going on.

00:47:42.800 The Senate's already back.

00:47:43.960 They're working around the clock going through these appropriations.

00:47:46.320 But I think they start voting on them next week.

00:47:48.200 You'll be shocked.

00:47:48.980 In fact, wait for it, none of the Woken Weaponized is out.

00:47:52.980 I think, unless I see other details, I think it's been terrible.

00:47:56.040 There's going to be a huge difference in the bid and the ask, even if the House can get

00:48:01.240 to the point of actually passing these by the end of the month, which I don't think

00:48:05.220 is possible.

00:48:05.900 That's why this big conference is coming in that he's going to have on Tuesday night.

00:48:11.080 McCarthy.

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00:48:19.680 In fact, I would say you're the protagonist.

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00:49:06.260 The Federal Reserve, guess what?

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00:49:40.840 And the BRICS, the global south, control most of the world's resources.

00:49:45.620 And they are tired and fed up with the printing of money and the overspending of the United States,

00:49:50.400 which is leading to a decrease in the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar.

00:49:54.020 And they're tired of the inflation, so they're binding together.

00:49:59.180 They haven't come up with a basket of currencies yet, but they're starting the process of

00:50:02.460 de-dollarization, of doing transactions for resources in their own currencies and not using

00:50:06.920 the dollar as an intermediary.

00:50:08.520 That is a massive geopolitical change.

00:50:11.440 You have to understand all that.

00:50:13.260 Go to Brush Gold.

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00:50:19.240 at record rates and why the Federal Reserve is working on a digital currency.

00:50:24.660 Okay, before we go tonight, of course, later tonight, and we're going to be live streaming

00:50:28.300 this up on Getter, President Trump's going to be in South Dakota with Kristi Noem.

00:50:34.680 It was a very interesting report by a correspondent we know quite well over at NBC.

00:50:41.660 Let's go ahead and play that, and then I'll comment on the other side.

00:50:45.300 I had conversations with several of the folks here waiting outside for Donald Trump's arrival

00:50:50.940 in Kristi Noem's, and there was groups of 10 of them, I asked, who they would support

00:50:56.080 to be Donald Trump's vice presidential pick, just open-ended.

00:51:00.240 And 7 out of 10, Yasmin, told me the name Carrie Lake, unprompted.

00:51:05.440 Just one of them told me Kristi Noem, and just one of them said Nikki Haley here.

00:51:10.400 So Kristi Noem, there is actually some criticism of her among some of these Trump loyalists,

00:51:16.040 some question just how faithful she would be in the role of vice president.

00:51:19.580 So this is a complicated question that Donald Trump, if he were to win the Republican nomination,

00:51:25.000 would have to face.

00:51:25.800 And another gentleman told me, why would he pick Kristi Noem?

00:51:28.160 He's going to win South Dakota.

00:51:29.400 He won it by 25 points in 2020.

00:51:32.100 Go and pick somebody else.

00:51:33.380 But the question is, who is that somebody else?

00:51:35.220 You know, Carrie Lake has talked about running for the U.S. Senate in Arizona.

00:51:38.740 Kristi Noem is a key figure in this because of her prominence and because of her loyalty

00:51:44.280 to Donald Trump to this point, though, Yasmin.

00:51:47.300 Okay, that's Vaughn Halyard, one of the best reporters out there.

00:51:50.360 Of course, he's no buddy of Carrie Lakes.

00:51:53.020 He's covering her very closely.

00:51:54.420 He's now in the presidential campaign.

00:51:56.280 Tonight, I think it's 9.30 Eastern Daylight Time.

00:51:59.780 I think maybe at 9 o'clock.

00:52:01.140 You've got Zirkle.

00:52:01.920 You've got Grace Chong.

00:52:02.820 You have Mo Bannon.

00:52:03.440 I think I'll be coming in and out.

00:52:05.380 The president will be out there with Kristi Noem.

00:52:07.880 But that's kind of blockbuster news.

00:52:09.500 Remember, that's a crowd of pure MAGA of President Trump.

00:52:12.620 I think it's going to be 7,000 plus at this gathering tonight.

00:52:15.760 That's all they can fit in.

00:52:16.660 It's obviously oversold.

00:52:18.380 But 7 of 10, 70% support Carrie Lake for vice president in the great state of South Dakota.

00:52:27.060 So important breaking news.

00:52:28.460 Okay, tomorrow, we're going to cover tonight.

00:52:30.520 Get up on Getter.

00:52:31.600 Make sure you follow us.

00:52:32.680 I think we'll be streaming over at Rumble, too.

00:52:34.940 Make sure you go there.

00:52:36.480 Then tomorrow morning, we're going to be back on fire.

00:52:38.800 We've got a heavy day tomorrow.

00:52:39.900 I want everybody in here.

00:52:41.580 Throughout the weekend, I'll be coming up on Getter.

00:52:43.400 I really want to thank the Memphis team for doing all this.

00:52:46.580 Great show tonight.

00:52:47.340 Rachel Alexander, thank you very much for joining us.

00:52:50.840 Really, really, really appreciate it.

00:52:52.540 Okay.

00:52:53.080 And Michael Patrick Lay, doing a great job out there.

00:52:55.740 Okay.

00:52:56.060 We'll see you back here tonight, later up.

00:52:58.860 Make sure you're up live when we're covering President Trump.

00:53:01.380 And then tomorrow, we'll be back here at 10 a.m.

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