Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 379： The Loss Of Sovereignty And Missiles For Ukraine

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:08.600 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:15.580 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just

00:00:21.480 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:26.240 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:30.500 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:37.560 your host Stephen K Bannon at the UN taking a veiled shot at Poland and other countries in eastern

00:00:44.780 Europe for stepping back from their support uh Poland says yes they do reserve the right to resume

00:00:50.820 those weapons shipments but for now they're pulling them back yeah you know Richard there's an election

00:00:55.820 in Poland in a couple of weeks it's going to be a heated heated and just a critical election for

00:01:02.120 the direction of of Poland's democracy um that said uh Zelensky could have picked a better time

00:01:10.440 to start criticizing people in eastern Europe I know I know when we were given 40 billion dollars I

00:01:16.720 I remember one time saying on the show you know what just saying thank you just saying thank you

00:01:21.540 might be a good start I understand what he's going through but you look at the history you look at

00:01:26.060 what Winston Churchill did with FDR how he constantly worked him constantly lobbied him constantly played

00:01:33.280 him constantly it was all over him and and and and and keeping FDR in the game it meant the survival

00:01:40.100 I will say Zelensky uh time and again insults a lot of allies that are giving him billions of dollars

00:01:45.840 and the Poles finally said enough I think again the Poles will will come back but if you we all remember 1.00

00:01:52.840 the beginning stages of the wars Poland literally threw open its door to millions and millions and millions 0.75

00:02:00.840 and millions of Ukrainian refugees nobody was more open no nobody was more supportive so yeah this is a really bad 1.00

00:02:08.840 development it's bad development the Poland will continue to transfer up all the arms from other

00:02:14.180 places it's you're right it's about the elections coming up cheap grain coming from Ukraine Polish

00:02:20.180 farmers unhappy with it but but Joe I think there's a larger story going on here this is there's a bit of

00:02:25.340 war fatigue we're seeing it in Poland refugee fatigue you're seeing it in Washington we're seeing that

00:02:31.160 the counter-offensive quote-unquote is not going to deliver liberation of territory anytime soon if ever

00:02:37.880 there's a gap increasingly between the war aims of Ukraine and what's happening on the battlefield

00:02:43.240 and the patience of other places stop just Memphis just do me a favor hold it right there because

00:02:50.600 it's my head is blown up it's perfect uh it's Friday 22 September the year or 2023 in Memphis I'm

00:02:58.380 probably ask if my crack production team here in Memphis I'm going to want to replay that one when the

00:03:03.860 guy starts talking about warfare take think about it for a second you've had 50,000 casualties in

00:03:13.480 Ukraine women children young men and women that have volunteered to fight and somehow times been

00:03:21.760 Shanghai to fight but to fight for their country 50,000 dead that's not my number it's not Ben Harnwell's

00:03:27.680 number we're gonna have Beatrice von Storch on here in a minute from the alternative for Deutschland it's not 0.97

00:03:33.400 her number that's the number of the Pentagon of which in the New York Times of which of which uh the 0.75

00:03:39.100 Ukrainians agree with is another 125,000 wounded 150,000 wounded and I'm not sure those numbers even

00:03:45.460 incorporate what's happened in this uh what's happened in this uh in this counter-offensive okay I'm not

00:03:51.640 sure it's it's in the counter-offensive count only counter-offensive and look at them right there all

00:03:57.020 the people that goaded them into this you know I think there's some war fatigue what fatigue have you got

00:04:03.400 sitting there with your cup of coffee and punting what fatigue do you have what fatigue please tell

00:04:09.140 me morning Mika morning Joe this is how awful and evil these people are the the the this is this is

00:04:19.900 this is what they are okay this is what they are they sit there like Professor Mersheimer says and

00:04:27.860 they've let them down the primrose path as we've said on this show from the very beginning of this

00:04:33.420 war and now that's getting tough oh you know there's war fatigue no we had the fatigue immediately

00:04:41.440 because we told you this was going to happen you know there's some this is the knitted brow

00:04:46.720 these are your betters these are your betters sitting there with the knitted brow you know

00:04:52.960 there is some war fatigue in the capital there's not war fatigue in Poland and this is not about a

00:04:59.800 political campaign that's coming up the Polish farmers don't want to be destroyed by the cheap

00:05:04.900 Ukrainian wheat this is they're trying to put their country first also they've given tremendous

00:05:09.580 benefits the Polish people who don't have that kind of money don't have this kind of money this is what

00:05:15.660 being a a Catholic nation of giving and nobody gives more than the polls and in their history look what's 0.83

00:05:23.880 happened to them they gave tremendous benefits they gave they gave a health care and education and all of it

00:05:30.860 to the what a couple of million um refugees that went across

00:05:36.080 we told everyone this is going to happen i would love you know i would love to have the 50 000 dead 0.99

00:05:45.780 the 50 000 dead watch what we just saw right there and there's more to come and we'll play in a second

00:05:53.760 ben but i got we got beatrice up here there's so much going on in europe that's internationally linked

00:05:58.140 to here in the united states and obviously vice versa but i i need you you're you're a guy in rome that's

00:06:04.200 done the best of of keeping your eyes on what's happening in europe i can tell you from

00:06:10.600 a fairly ringside seat in the united states with people there on the inside and were there

00:06:17.520 this was a catastrophically disastrous visit by zelinski he very foolishly because he doesn't have 1.00

00:06:25.240 a lot of common sense not in a million years she have come to washington it was stupid enough for him 0.99

00:06:30.020 to go to the united nations he should just stayed there gratitude worked on the counter offensive 0.98

00:06:35.400 coming here it's the death now of the ukrainian support the number is going to be zero they're

00:06:41.440 going to be huge fights and even democrats are going to peel away biden's going to peel away

00:06:45.360 because the the tides turned everybody's now listening what we're saying and what gates and

00:06:50.160 these other people are saying it's no more ukrainian funding mtg who's really had uh uh mccarthy's

00:06:57.980 back she was the deciding vote on the defense budget and she said until you take the 300 million

00:07:03.160 dollars out of the of the 880 billion dollar defense budget 330 million dollars out i don't

00:07:10.720 even want to come to the floor that's how worked up people are in this ben give us your perspective i

00:07:15.220 say it was catastrophic uh he nobody wanted a photo op with him um mccarthy's guys no meetings

00:07:23.220 no big meet no no general talking even to the republican congress or people in the house

00:07:27.820 and even people that were there with him saying it was just he's tonally deaf uh your assessment sir

00:07:35.160 well steve good afternoon to you my first question here is wasn't there anybody in the administration

00:07:41.680 telling zelinski on the phone don't come do not come now is not the time to come it's going to go

00:07:47.900 it's going to be counterproductive it's going to go against you was there nobody there in washington dc

00:07:53.900 feeding him that message and if that message was going through to him then the obvious question is

00:08:00.240 is that he chose deliberately uh to disregard that advice and to come anyway and then therefore i would

00:08:06.740 say here he owns the responsibility for the consequences of this because this you know we said back in july

00:08:13.860 in vilnius at the um in the annual nato conference in lithuania we said in real time the very day that

00:08:21.300 conference took place and there was the photo there of all the heads of states and heads of government

00:08:25.020 and zelinski was there in one moment he was just standing there on the stage by himself that that

00:08:29.960 spawned a thousand memes that photo in love itself but we said that very day this this program said

00:08:35.760 this is the moment in the future we're going to look back and say this is the moment that nato

00:08:41.400 started to pivot away from its support of ukraine and these are the follow-on consequences of that

00:08:47.760 and i think it's absolutely clear you know just to to say to give a bit of background to what's going

00:08:53.060 on in poland right now they're they're anyone this year their wheat imports from ukraine uh and

00:08:59.920 poland is largely an agricultural economy still their wheat uh it imports from um from you've been

00:09:07.920 exposed by 600 percent and you can imagine what that will do to the productive uh agricultural

00:09:13.720 base of that economy and it's therefore only sort of natural that a government that isn't comprised of

00:09:20.300 sociopaths that is trying to stay close to the people will respond to that that anger there that

00:09:26.020 is latent in the polish people so when richard harr says oh you know there might be a bit of uh 0.90

00:09:31.120 ukraine fatigue you know i i i flag up if mentis wants to produce my my first article while i'm

00:09:37.360 talking here uh the bbc is pushing the same line it's it's you know there's a there's a bit of

00:09:42.240 ukraine fatigue it's not ukraine fatigue in and of itself we we we indicated a year and a half ago what

00:09:50.400 the consequences are going to be it's it's a case that there's on the 15th of october steve there's an

00:09:55.640 election in poland and the law and justice party the present governing party the pis they're neck

00:10:01.880 and neck uh right it it's it's going to be a close run thing um and there's a party everyone says that

00:10:08.680 the law and justice are extreme working for it there's actually a party further to the right

00:10:14.400 um of law and justice called yeah but that's it they're on 10 percent so for their own survival

00:10:21.100 steve this government has to now start on into the anger in poland you know after the break i'm

00:10:26.600 going to come back and talk about that and it's not only in poland either you ask me every other day

00:10:31.620 you know what's going on in europe what's that what's going on in the capitals we are really starting

00:10:36.360 to see now and i would suggest to some extent it is related to what's going on in the united states

00:10:41.700 we are we are really starting to see a fight back now in in europe's capitals and it's really

00:10:46.500 been breaking out in the into the public over this last week let me get i'm gonna come back

00:10:52.900 and we're getting more in ukraine and we'll talk about this populist the populist right because now

00:10:57.240 of course i think the ft's got to blame us we're going to be the ones to take down we're the biggest

00:11:02.520 we're the biggest problem to climate change we're going to talk about we got dave walsh on here to

00:11:07.300 talk about carry and all of it but i want to bring in beatrice bandstorch the deputy uh chair 1.00

00:11:12.360 of alternative for deutschland first thing beatrice tell us how

00:11:16.340 tell us how um hang on for one second is she ready to go

00:11:21.660 okay uh do we have we don't have beatrice okay fine i'll go back to ben dave just hang on for one

00:11:28.420 second um the um ben on this uh on the populist right the first question i got for beatrice is that

00:11:36.680 how did she come how did they come out of nowhere and become the number two party i mean you're

00:11:41.860 seeing the populist right but alternative for deutschland was marginalized you remember you

00:11:46.460 and i spent a lot of time in europe trying to trying to build this coalition is now coming together

00:11:50.940 but they were the ones that were most marginalized i remember i went to berlin

00:11:54.340 they were the most marginalized as you know neo-fascist they were they were anti-immigration

00:11:59.600 they're anti-human and now they're the second biggest party in germany

00:12:03.160 well they got that way you asked the question how did that happen how did they come from nothing to

00:12:09.140 being the second largest party and it's because the mainstream parties ignored the german people

00:12:14.120 it's as simple as that they ignored them they persisted in ignoring them for long enough

00:12:18.620 and in a certain way politics is like the free market isn't it if there's nobody there supplying

00:12:24.100 a want in a need in the market a supplier will arise and that's exactly what's happened with the

00:12:29.620 alternative for deutschland they started responding to an anger and disgust in the german people that

00:12:35.620 the locked in establishment parties the christian democrats and the social democrats and refused

00:12:40.440 even to recognize existed because you know you know these are the skinheads these are the nazis

00:12:45.900 the uh you know we'll put a cordon sanitaire around this section of the population and we'll just 0.82

00:12:53.340 ignore them because you know they're they're deplorables and all the rest of it but of course

00:12:57.560 they're not they're ordinary german working people who have this romantic notion that a government

00:13:04.680 should put their interests first regarding the interest regarding uh interests of other people

00:13:10.440 for example the the million or so um supposedly uh asylum seekers that germany accepted in one year

00:13:19.540 alone under angela merkel that sort of created the massive anger that was there in germany and people

00:13:25.560 like beatrix von stork who is excellent and by the way uh her alice riddle they came in and and they've

00:13:33.340 responded to this anger and that's what's happening all all across europe now there's an article steve

00:13:38.300 in the economist which which has an amazing fact right and this just basically shows i think how the

00:13:43.860 war room um and the economic nationalism that we've been spearheading here has really been uh ahead of

00:13:50.880 the curve but here's the situation in continental europe this is and i quote the economist here um our

00:13:56.900 calculations show that 15 of the europe's european union's 27 member states now have hard right

00:14:04.440 parties which have support of 20 or more in opinion polls that is to say almost four fifths of the eu's

00:14:11.480 population now living countries where the hard right commands a loyalty of at least a fifth of the

00:14:17.380 public and that steve that is only going to grow i agree with you 100 i think the ukraine situation

00:14:26.020 brought up ben hang on uh and dave walsh hang on we got a lot to get to i think beatrix is i think

00:14:32.000 she's up beatrix do we have yes there you are deputy head alternative for deutschland beatrix here's the

00:14:38.400 first question you know our audience we've put up a lot of stuff on getter and follow you closely

00:14:43.320 but tell us in your own words because you guys have gone through some tough times how did how did

00:14:49.300 you guys come back to be the second biggest party now in all of germany well first of all all the party

00:14:56.760 is performing performing very good but to be honest it's just the governing who's just ruining it's just

00:15:04.460 destroying our country and people are just fed up with this uh the biggest issue is migration and they 1.00

00:15:10.280 don't want to stop it uh no they they are increasing the numbers of migration and people just

00:15:15.940 realize that's impossible we can't bear any more migrants so that's the first thing uh then they 1.00

00:15:22.000 want to put climate change first and they are just not focusing on the interests of the people

00:15:28.440 they are now they just came up with a law which will force every private house owner to invest

00:15:34.120 something like 100 000 euros uh to reinstall a new heating system even though there's a working one in

00:15:40.080 the house so they are they are just not meeting the people's interest and the country basically

00:15:46.780 stops of being a functioning first world country this is what the people have the impression and this

00:15:52.460 is why we are number two in the whole of the federal republic of germany and we are the number one

00:15:58.280 in the eastern states of germany

00:15:59.900 the economy is also i think that germany is either in a recession or leading europe into recession

00:16:08.120 talk to us about the overall economic and how the government's managed the economy

00:16:12.240 well they're managing the economy and driving them out of germany so we have seen something like 140

00:16:21.040 billion euros who have been years who left germany because uh the the industry and economy

00:16:29.760 they do not want to invest the money any longer in germany because that will definitely mean you will

00:16:34.820 lose your money um because we are declining we are you know we are shortening the supply of of energy

00:16:41.240 um the price is just up uh 100 again even though it has been up 70 when uh after after merkel's

00:16:50.360 governance uh governance um so it is no longer possible to run your industry here with with reasonable

00:16:57.080 energy prices uh there are a lot of things which are not good for for german economy and uh basically the

00:17:04.020 government is doing the contrary of what it should do and this is why our numbers going up and up and

00:17:09.540 up the whole time even though the whole media is is is running a huge campaign against us they call us

00:17:17.260 all kinds of of unnice things stupid things um we are extremists and in what kind so ever but uh people

00:17:25.340 realize that that's not true and that's the cover basically the government is extremistic in all policy 0.82

00:17:33.300 areas what they address but it's not just the media i mean people should know uh and you and your

00:17:40.940 husband are two of the bravest individuals i remember jason went over to visit with you jason miller who's

00:17:46.040 now senior vice president trump spent a lot of time with you guys uh the pressure you're under not just

00:17:50.560 from the media but the government actually steps in and treats alternative for deutschland like it's

00:17:56.000 some sort of bandit party does it not it does and it declares even openly that they they do so we've got

00:18:04.620 a secret service which is run by our political opponents and they're coming after us um with these

00:18:11.860 measures so so they declare us to be you know the enemy of the constitution and um this is why you know

00:18:19.020 they spy on our iphones and and whatsoever um but you know what people are just bored with that people

00:18:25.720 just don't they're not so much interested in that any longer um the secret service has lost its

00:18:32.000 credibility and people realize that something has to change and there is a majority within the i mean

00:18:40.600 former right-wing conservative liberal parties and the the main problem uh what we can see in germany is

00:18:48.760 that there is there could be a reasonable majority uh center right uh but the cdu the former

00:18:56.960 metals chancellor's party and they they are trying to you know govern again uh with the greens um so as

00:19:05.420 the conservatives who are not trying to to form a coalition or a government with us but with the

00:19:12.800 greens or with the left and so we are heading towards a very bad situation which is fueling our our

00:19:18.180 our numbers wider we are going up and they will go down but this is the same thing i would call

00:19:24.740 the christian democrat just like the tory party in england and just like the republican traditional

00:19:28.660 republican party in the united states they are they are essentially part of the they're working for

00:19:33.000 the uniparty now against a populist a populist whether that's alternative for deutschland whether

00:19:39.660 it's the brexiteers in the nigel farage group and thing or whether it's maga in the deplorables

00:19:45.060 under president trump in fact i want to get to that point the economists this week i think the

00:19:49.740 lead story they're in shock they're they're clutching their pearls because they say there's

00:19:55.000 the rise of this populist right uh and of course leading that article uh of which the economist is

00:20:02.040 is shocked and very nervous about is is uh alternative for deutschland and of course

00:20:06.780 the law and justice party that's up going to have these elections in november in poland

00:20:10.980 um talk to us about what's happening why across the continent and you're one of the leaders of

00:20:17.540 this but you see salvini you see le pen you see a resurgence in the right a new energy a new urgency

00:20:24.800 and now you're having people there's this report to the day that up to one third i think of people

00:20:29.940 actually are open to vote for people on the populist right and as ben just said even in the economist

00:20:36.060 article i think they said that 20 of adults of citizens in countries will actually end up voting

00:20:42.420 for the populist right what what's the reality and why is the economist so shocked like this is the

00:20:49.180 worst thing that's happened since the rise of uh of hitler and mussolini in the 1930s

00:20:54.340 i think what we can see is just basically to make a long story short people are just fed up with this 0.98

00:21:02.160 leftist brookist um you know anti-rational stupid policy in all areas they're just tired they see 0.99

00:21:10.720 that it doesn't function it's against humanity it's just insane and um well basically it doesn't 1.00

00:21:19.860 function and people are they they do not trust in what they are told any longer and they can see

00:21:26.520 with their own eyes that the country is no longer functioning you know what i i was traveling with

00:21:32.900 a train last week what i never done for a very long time the train system in germany basically is broken

00:21:39.760 you cannot go any longer with a train and be sure you be there on time our system is no longer able to

00:21:48.520 keep the trains working correctly very easy things and people realize it and so they stop listening to

00:21:59.100 what they are told they should do and they do what they think is correct and what is correct is the

00:22:04.880 policy which has been offered by all those right-wing populistic parties in all over europe and the ones

00:22:11.820 in germany to address this is the afg beatrice there was a piece in uh in gateway punted this week

00:22:20.620 you know this we had this uh global governance uh meeting at the uh at the un on the 20th we were

00:22:27.760 uh big in the united states of putting forward how we've got to stop this how we got to stop it through

00:22:32.120 congress uh i know you had a piece and you talked about actually the banners that might be in back of

00:22:36.900 all this the who all this can you walk us through this piece because i gotta tell you it got a lot

00:22:42.000 of coverage here in the united states walk us through your your piece about this who global

00:22:47.260 governance and the billionaires in back of this what we know is that the the world health organization

00:22:55.440 is now trying to you know come up with a policy change and they want to stop pandemics from from

00:23:05.020 spreading so they want to take all the powers of the governments of the world to take the the right

00:23:11.340 decisions to stop pandemics from from from growing in the world which basically means um they want to

00:23:19.200 have the power which has been in the in the hands of the of the national governments and to take

00:23:25.440 themselves the decision um what to be done uh to fight some kind of of pandemic and this is frightening

00:23:33.440 because the world health organization is has not been elected by anybody there is no there's no kind

00:23:43.960 of democratic um uh legitimation of of the world health organization um uh it's it's just a combination

00:23:53.100 an organization set up by you know private organizations funds like like like rockefeller and and bill and

00:24:00.960 melinda gates foundations and so forth in some countries of course um but it has not it's not in it's not a

00:24:07.380 democracy and they want to take the decisions and they want to oblige all member states to follow their rules

00:24:15.800 i think that's dangerous and we have to talk about it and we have to make people aware that they are at

00:24:22.040 the very moment preparing um to taking basically the power of the parliaments of the world um to the

00:24:31.420 general secretary of the world health organization which is uh this ethiopian you know marxistic leninistic

00:24:39.280 uh uh put just uh the one who took they they they took the power into ethiopian by a plot

00:24:48.700 and this guy and wants to govern uh and wants to decide what's going on in germany and other member

00:24:55.700 states i think that's frightening this is frightening and we have to first of all start to talk about it

00:25:03.240 and get to people's awareness that we have to very closely focus what the who is planning

00:25:12.800 and then we have to go against it real quickly we got about a minute i want to hold you through the

00:25:20.520 break but the christian democrats the tories in in london and a lot of the rhino republicans here 0.79

00:25:26.360 have no problem with the loss of sovereignty why why is it party supposed to be center-right like

00:25:31.080 the christian democrats why do they have no problem with this

00:25:34.040 i didn't get sorry i didn't get that that question again please i tell you what why don't we wait to

00:25:44.280 the break because i want the answer to this so the the question is uh and we got to go to break

00:25:48.020 it seems like when you talk about these issues of sovereignty and these in these transnational

00:25:53.040 organizations backed by billionaires like who that the christian democrats in in germany the tories

00:25:59.960 in england and a lot of the traditional rhino right rhino republicans here have no problem with

00:26:06.040 this it it is always kind of the populist right that sits up and says hang on our sovereignty is

00:26:11.780 absolutely critical i tell you what we're going to go to a commercial break when we hang on we have

00:26:15.040 beatrice van storks the deputy of alternative for deutschland that's now the number two party in

00:26:20.720 germany and that is causing an uproar the economist this week has a huge story on the rise of the

00:26:25.700 populist right in europe and let's say they don't the economist does not view that as a positive

00:26:30.860 thing i've got dave walsh here is going to tell us about john kerry all of these efforts at the u.n

00:26:36.080 all these efforts in the capital to implement exactly what they've done in germany here in the

00:26:41.480 united states of america he's beavering away of course uh our own ben harnwell we're gonna have

00:26:46.940 a deeper dive on this ukraine situation and how it's coming apart here the funding of in the united

00:26:51.180 states of america short commercial break back in the war room in just a moment

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00:31:53.840 so beatrice why do the christian democrats in germany the tories in england and the reino republicans in

00:32:02.740 united states why are they not concerned about the sovereignty of these nations with these

00:32:09.920 transnational organizations backed by billionaires that you at the alternative for deutschland there's

00:32:15.640 supposed to be this radical right party why why are the christian democrats not concerned about the

00:32:20.280 sovereignty of the german people in the nation state of germany i think they're different reasons 0.99

00:32:26.600 i think some are just stupid um i think some might make a lot of money out of it who knows 0.93

00:32:35.280 and the third thing is that they are not so much in favor of democracy i mean we are very much in favor 0.99

00:32:44.580 of democracy and we think it is very good to have sovereign nation states to take their own decision

00:32:50.960 um and if you know the people do not want uh the government anymore they they can vote for another

00:32:57.400 one uh which means they they they keep the sovereignty and um some of those so-called

00:33:04.460 conservatives i don't know i think they're not so much in favor of this idea and they just they're

00:33:09.620 very happy to give away sovereignty and to have others to take unpopular decisions maybe to fight

00:33:19.180 pandemics uh like the way we have seen it with covet so i think they're different they're different

00:33:26.500 explanations and some i think are just not reading the treaties they're just not aware of what is going

00:33:33.180 on they're just walking around and they they they they call it all a conspiracy theory what they have

00:33:40.860 not even read what they have not might not have understood i don't know i think there's several

00:33:46.580 several reasons um but i can tell you that there's one party in germany which is alternative for germany

00:33:54.140 which is very much aware of what is going on we do read what is going what is planned by the world health organization

00:34:02.020 we do understand what's going on we communicate it loud and clear and tell the people be aware

00:34:08.740 we cannot have this take the take of the power of the uh who um and we address the problem and uh all

00:34:20.580 the problems we have addressed in the past migration inflation economy climate change we told the people

00:34:26.700 before what will happen if we follow the government now we're doing the same thing with the uh who um

00:34:34.740 um pandemic plans and i hope we succeed and we open the eyes of the people and we have to stop them

00:34:42.000 because we are we are trying to keep our national sovereignty and our democratic state and the way it

00:34:50.700 is uh beatrice how do people follow you what's what's your social media what's the website that people

00:34:57.340 can go and find out more because you're one of the leaders in this movement of sovereignty and

00:35:02.260 self-determination of people of citizens throughout the world i'm in our nation states where do people

00:35:08.100 i'm on facebook on telegram on instagram i always with my name beatrix von stoch

00:35:14.180 thank you for asking thank you so much and great job in germany we're so proud of the efforts we know

00:35:22.780 you guys have been under a tremendous pressure honor to have you on thank you sir thank you so dave

00:35:29.560 walsh i want you to come in you warned us for two years that this was happening in germany and now

00:35:36.140 you have one of the leaders of the opposition party that is growing leaps and bounds and why is it

00:35:41.140 growing dave walsh exactly what you said was going to happen that people are just not going to sit there

00:35:46.320 in an advanced industrial state and you're the first guy to say it you're saying hey steve what

00:35:51.020 they're actually doing is de-industrializing they're using their energy policy to do it but they're going

00:35:55.840 to de-industrialize give me your give me your thoughts on on on beatrix and what's actually

00:35:59.800 happening in germany right now well they announced in the second quarter negative growth of 0.2 percent

00:36:07.060 gdp they're forecasting in the third quarter zero growth uh consumption uh personal consumption

00:36:13.540 declined in the second quarter which is remarkable in germany and the basic issue is the major industrials

00:36:19.540 bear ag basf bmw siemens energy uh tisson crop all heavily dependent on energy inputs electricity

00:36:28.220 specifically to be competitive manufacturers have systematically moved and more now recently a lot

00:36:35.160 of announcements of moving programmatically to china to india in the past with south carolina north

00:36:41.000 carolina siemens energy's biggest factories in charlotte basf bmw out by spartanburg south carolina

00:36:47.080 energy cost their electricity historically six seven eight cents per kilowatt hour germany before

00:36:53.300 the crisis 45 cents now double that so these these companies that make heavy industrial products cannot

00:36:59.800 make them in germany the cost of the electricity inputs are simply too high that drives unemployment

00:37:05.140 in germany it drives gdp decline and that's what they're seeing and that's why the rise of the afd is

00:37:10.700 occurring it's it's about people and it's about the interest of people not in industrial decline such as

00:37:16.420 john carrey running around promoting on the morning joe this morning vis-a-vis his discussion about china

00:37:22.360 okay this is we don't have time to play the clip but one of the points i'm trying to make is that

00:37:29.680 germany is just x amount of years ahead of us it carries plan and this plan is so radical

00:37:37.720 and what upsets me so much on capitol hill is we are not having you having a more of an adult

00:37:43.380 conversation here on warman with you uh and with ben and with beatrice than you have up there

00:37:48.380 this plan that carrey is putting forth and that the private equity guys are talking about is it's in

00:37:54.580 the heart of the biden energy plan it's one of the reasons our economy so screwed up the plan carrey's

00:37:58.940 talking about it's actually as radical about de-industrialization as the plan in germany is it

00:38:04.180 not sir it absolutely is we laid out before the the forecast of rapid adoption of renewables in the

00:38:12.040 u.s out to 2030 will cause the building of about 700 000 megawatts of solar and wind which when you

00:38:19.500 restate that because of its part-time value part-time energy value wind about eight hours a day solar on

00:38:26.080 average about five hours a day you're really talking about roughly 200 megawatts of electricity being

00:38:32.100 200 000 megawatts being added which with the 100 000 in coal shutdowns forecast to occur brings us to

00:38:39.620 only about 4.3 percent in electricity growth over a nine-year period out to 2030 so we're and while

00:38:46.860 we're talking about ev adoption we're talking about gas to electricity conversion for heating in the

00:38:52.020 northeast midwest the the numbers don't work on this because these energy sources be it solar and wind

00:38:58.800 are and and battery storage of four hour a day technology they don't work 24 hours a day the net

00:39:05.580 electricity capacity of this stuff at an enormous cost is far far lower than conventional coal gas and

00:39:13.080 nuclear and and no one's no one's really talking about this leading to the energy shortage we have in

00:39:19.580 texas growing in miso and pjm coming to visit florida soon california for years now already massive

00:39:26.580 shortage of electrification because of over adoption of part-time resources and the shuttering of of 24

00:39:34.680 hour a day resources being nuclear coal and and now increasingly gas like i said we don't have time

00:39:41.720 to play clip but carrie is talking he's pitching like we're falling behind china because they're getting

00:39:47.460 they're becoming leaders in sustainable energy they're building more coal power plants than ever i want

00:39:53.360 to give the number bloomberg just came out yesterday and said he's going to put a half half a billion

00:39:58.180 dollars a half a billion dollars this is another guy worth 70 billion dollars he's going to put a half

00:40:03.640 a billion dollars of cash money to shut down every coal plant every coal plant and every coal mine in the

00:40:10.140 united states of america so who's right is carrie right is carrie the it's china really the leader

00:40:15.060 in in sustainable energy are they not stealing a march on us on coal production and and using cold to produce

00:40:22.680 cheap energy he misstated and conflated facts china is in its zeal to grow industrial and militarily is

00:40:30.140 growing energy resources of all types number one coal between 2021 to 2026 their plan is to add 758

00:40:40.040 gigawatts of coal assets yes about 800 gigawatts of renewables but when you restate those numbers for

00:40:45.860 their energy production value china is adding net 700 gigawatts of coal and 244 of renewables when you

00:40:53.500 restate the renewables from rating plate values down to their actual energy production so they're adding

00:40:59.480 in in a 65 year period out to 2026 2.2 times more coal last year they announced plans to build two coal

00:41:08.300 plants a week uh in 2023 they're building six out of seven coal plants in the world they're they're

00:41:15.720 radically growing their coal infrastructure today they're 60 dependent on coal which is a local

00:41:21.400 indigenous resource as they're announcing their need to be independent to be self-sustaining within

00:41:27.480 their own country they're about three percent gas fired so 63 percent fossil powered at this time

00:41:33.200 only about 12 percent classic renewable solar and wind about 13 percent hydro and but what they're

00:41:40.200 growing also that the west is not doing is a nuclear base 57 nuclear reactors being built in the world

00:41:46.700 21 of those in china 37 of them and of those reactors by the way 44 of the 57 are being built in bricks

00:41:55.140 nations or in the global south 44 of 57 reactors in the world the united states and western europe are

00:42:02.520 building exactly two two just to show you that because they're buying more it's ridiculous they

00:42:10.240 understand what it takes for economic growth and this is this whole thing they want this whole burden

00:42:14.080 of this cult of climate change on the american people hang on for one second day i want to bring in

00:42:17.560 ben ben you've been in the european parliament but when you see and this this is a question for you

00:42:22.860 these center-right christian democrats tories these radical energy policies the climate cult and also

00:42:30.720 kind of ceding their our sovereignty their sovereignty to things like the who i mean this was the whole

00:42:36.400 brexit fight was about to get england out of the eu why is it that traditionally conservative uh

00:42:43.760 governments and conservative governmental apparatuses are a huge part of the problem now and that's why 0.79

00:42:50.720 you're seeing the growth of the populist right sir um well i divide that question into two quick

00:42:59.100 parts the first part is why is environmentalism a priority for the internationalist institutions and

00:43:04.620 then i'd say why is it affecting the central right political parties to answer the first part of that

00:43:09.960 is because the environment is one of those things which we're all uh nationalists here on this show

00:43:16.260 but the environment to to the extent that that the environment legitimately can be a concern and i'm not

00:43:23.280 talking about climate change or anything like that um but the environment is something which requires a

00:43:29.200 supranational uh coordination collaboration and the international institutions buy into that and use

00:43:36.880 that like shoehorn to justify basically taking over all areas of the economy which is what they're now

00:43:43.320 doing under the guise of man-made climate change why the central right political parties are buying into

00:43:49.140 that is is really due to the collapse i think of the concept of freedom and liberty after

00:43:55.240 ironically enough the fall of the berlin war which concentrated people's minds in the west exactly

00:44:01.020 what they were fighting against which is sort of state-run socialism communism once that wall fell it's

00:44:07.200 not that the world learned the lesson that that state management of the economy fails it's that we uh in the

00:44:13.100 so-called free countries we lost the the the focus on why we believe in liberty and personal

00:44:19.280 responsibility so much and losing that focus which is ironically something that the communists

00:44:25.420 with within our societies have never done they never lost their sense of focus they carried on

00:44:30.000 just as if the whole of the fall of the berlin war passed them by and therefore the centre-right

00:44:35.240 political parties ever you know what kind of politician knowing as we do that our politicians

00:44:41.520 associate us what politician will decline the opportunity should they lose their seat at the

00:44:48.020 national level to then to be bumped upstairs and then sort of factors more in terms of salaries and

00:44:53.540 perks that are available at the supranational level at the european parliament for example what what what

00:44:59.740 what you know what what kind of person would do that well you know you really need someone who's

00:45:04.960 like like Nigel Farage who when he was in the european parliament agitated to lose his own job

00:45:10.780 uh via britain's exit from that from the from the european um from the european union we don't elect

00:45:19.140 politicians Nigel Farage Beatrix von Storff there are exceptions yeah we have to accept some of all

00:45:25.520 responsibility of ourselves that we're electing politicians even um you know in the centre-right

00:45:32.700 even in economic nationalist right we are electing representatives and we're still doing it

00:45:37.720 who you know who aren't really part of our movement and want to champion our causes and the moment they

00:45:43.180 get to the capitalism you know they don't have to sell out because they were never part of the deal

00:45:47.120 ben uh real quickly i i'm gonna get you back on hopefully tomorrow about ukraine if not on on

00:45:55.480 monday but is part of this the loss of faith in in the in western europe the judeo-christian west that

00:46:02.320 now because this the moves on this uh climate change are so radical and de-industrializing

00:46:09.080 advanced nations is this cult really replaced to the elites uh the spirit of what the catholic faith

00:46:16.720 and the christian faith provided for millennia yeah i i'd say so that's pretty much true you know

00:46:24.260 you mentioned before that i worked in the european parliament i did about sort of 15 10 15 years

00:46:29.580 or so ago and i remember there watching how the the former red parties the communist parties the same

00:46:36.500 politicians who had been there agitating sort of for communism in in the in the 80s um they just

00:46:45.200 switched from red to green and i remember thinking you know and they just carried on shamelessly they

00:46:51.340 just changed their political affiliation they invented this new environmentalism concept and i remember 0.89

00:46:57.240 thinking to myself 15 years ago this you know people aren't this dumb then they're never going 0.77

00:47:02.100 to be able to get away with this uh this transformation obviously that they've just switched 0.97

00:47:07.180 their their shtick um for for political expediency but people are too astute sadly that's not true

00:47:14.900 um and what what started off as an opportunity to get failed politicians fighting a failed ideology to

00:47:22.840 keep them in the game it has now become it has grown very much to become steve a false synthetic uh

00:47:29.560 pseudo religion that's absolutely true and of course yeah human nature being what it is seeing as we're

00:47:35.900 created by god um to love and adore and to worship god jesus christ if you don't do that if we don't

00:47:42.100 have jesus christ at the center of your life if you don't even have one of the other religions uh that are

00:47:47.500 there uh throughout human history that you will believe something because we've been made by god to

00:47:52.760 respond to an existential call and if you don't take one of the standard uh explanations that are that are

00:48:00.140 there you will believe anything and that ought to be the that ought to be the lesson of the 20th century

00:48:06.640 i'm not sure how much people have have learned that those lessons but that's absolutely the case

00:48:11.280 environmentalism today is a false religion uh it has its priests has its sacrifices has all the

00:48:17.560 paraphernalia of a false religion um you know i would suggest i would suggest that there is the sense of

00:48:25.680 sulfur around this simply because it is distracting people instead of worshiping god worshiping jesus christ

00:48:32.700 to be worshiping that which is created rather than that which is the creator

00:48:37.380 ben uh what is your social media we'll look back getting you on tomorrow or monday on the ukraine

00:48:45.140 situation a lot to go on there i know you're on top of it uh where do people follow you on social

00:48:49.360 media thank you so much steve uh war room for org is the first port of court uh where myself jala and

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00:49:00.620 subscribe for those newsletters on getter you can either come to me at harnwell there's my name

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00:49:16.680 and i'll also and you'll find my posts there as well i'm good the reason i do it i'm quite jealous

00:49:23.340 that his gets a lot again it has a lot more engagement than mine i think it's part of the

00:49:27.620 things of him reading all the comments and engaging with the audience ben great job honored to have you on

00:49:32.080 here thank you for coming from rome dave walsh i'm going to have you back on next we've got to go

00:49:37.400 through what carrie did you nailed this germany because of the because of the embrace by the

00:49:42.900 elite of this dangerous cult is rapidly de-industrializing based upon their energy policy

00:49:49.720 and what you're seeing now is a revolt of the german people against it just like you're seeing a

00:49:54.960 revolt of the american people against what's happening here but the plans of carrying these guys i think

00:50:00.020 are actually more radical than the germans where do people go to your social media dave to keep up

00:50:03.820 with you it's at dave walsh energy on getter and true social the same thank you steve you've done

00:50:11.900 an amazing job dave of showing us what the future is going to be quite frankly when you first came out

00:50:16.040 a couple of years ago when you first started talking about this i think a lot of people were

00:50:18.960 thinking given how how precise and engineering oriented the the germans are that would never happen

00:50:24.480 it's happened exactly like you said it was going to happen so thank you very much

00:50:28.460 well let's go on uk we get the bp is advancing their relationship with sonotrek in algeria to

00:50:35.920 bring pipeline gas into western europe to offset the shortage from the russian stoppage while they're

00:50:41.760 unable to harvest natural gas and oil in the north sea any longer because of the elitist and monarchy

00:50:47.200 supported government in the uk who's used as a poster child king charles for the same issues on

00:50:53.040 decarbonization it's very sad it's incredibly sad unbelievable this is why i've always been a

00:50:59.300 irish republican dave walsh thank you very much great analysis bye-bye one thing hopefully this show

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WarRoom Battleground EP 379： The Loss Of Sovereignty And Missiles For Ukraine

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