WarRoom Battleground EP 380: Mainstream Meltdown Over Trump Poll
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In this episode of the Truth War Room Podcast, host Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Charlie Sykes to discuss the latest polling numbers on the 2020 Democratic presidential primary race and the warning signs that point to a potential Donald Trump win in 2020.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
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like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host Stephen K Bannon I'm not gonna lose by nine points there's a close race and there are
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warning signs there I will say though I'm a little tired of it I'm a little tired of three years
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hearing about how Joe Biden's going to get crushed he's going to get crushed in 2020 he and the
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Democrats going to get crushed in 2022 there's going to be a red wave there's no way he can
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pass bipartisan legislation he passes more than anybody this century and it just keeps going on
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and on there's a bunch of things at play and and should jump on what you're saying if these truth
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tellers would say you know it doesn't look good these polls don't look good but we've been here
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before let me give some context historically look what happened the last time he was underestimated
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and also in terms of his age look at what President Biden is doing go through his schedule look at the
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things that he has accomplished list them and then talk about a man his age and what he is able to do at
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his age since age is relative and as for Donald Trump I think that there has got to be a point
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where if you're an organization that works around debating the issues and following the truth
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I don't know why there are extensive interviews with this man when he cannot even admit he lost the
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election like that would be the end of any interview anywhere or it should be and instead he pontificates
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and and and rolls over people with lies and people continue to put him on as if he is a truth
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teller you look at john and he's not a truth teller charlie sykes you're in uh one of the swingiest of
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the swing states wisconsin right now i'm curious your take on the polling well i mean uh obviously the
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what the the washington post poll uh the abc poll is uh is fuel for bedwetting but uh i mean let's just
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think about the last three days where where we where we're at here uh donald trump mocked a disabled
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veteran called for the uh execution of general mark milley uh has called for the complete shutdown
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of the government unless they defund the prosecutions against him he's asked for all senate democrats to
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resign over the menendez case um and um you know he's talking about using government power to retaliate
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and shut down nbc for criticizing him and yet and yet we look at this poll and we're supposed to think
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that he's got a reasonable shot to win the presidency and of course he does look um that abc
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poll is an outlier you look at the numbers of youth voters and it tells you no there's no way
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that donald trump is winning the youth vote um this this is not to be taken seriously but the warning
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signs are out there and the nbc poll i think underlines along with other polls that this is going
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to be a tight race it is going to be a close race as as have all of our presidential races in in
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recent years and it is going to come down to some swing states but this notion that somehow um there
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is no such thing as political gravity anymore is kind of fanciful because donald trump is out there
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reminding americans as loudly as possible that he is thoroughly dangerous and deranged and at some
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point um i think that's going to get a little bit of traction this is the season where you're firing
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blanks you can say that yeah joe biden's too old or that i'm not enthusiastic about him but a year
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from now we're going to be faced very directly with the choice are we going to put donald trump back
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deranged and dangerous monday 25 september euroville or 2023 please those audience members or maybe people
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knew this show that don't quite get it we play a lot of msnbc and cnn because we want to show you
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the thinking of the establishment the information work for the establishment what they're putting
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forward doesn't help us to put all the other voices on the right that are out there you understand that
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we're trying to in an information war you must understand the enemy you must understand this so
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right there oh they're outliers these polls are nothing no way he's winning the youth vote
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and he's dangerous and destructive full complete meltdown two incredibly powerful forces over the
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weekend this about the funding of the united states government and the bankruptcy that the elites in
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this country in the uniparty their apparat checks in the uniparty are driving us through and then of
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course these polls that came out even nbc's got trump up over biden and abc's game up by 10 points
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and on both polls those are not the worst numbers for the biden regime the undercarder that the cross
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tabs are absolutely brutal caroline rent i want to bring you in because you've been with carry lake up
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in michigan and other places you've been around with the grassroots throughout the country i want to
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talk about this overall what's happening in the imperial capital how that's playing in the hinterland
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but also one of the you you keep flashing the sign that hey some of these special elections that are
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happening uh more democrats are showing up are these are small sample polls but that the at the state
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apparatuses whether we're winning in north carolina with the legislature but losing in other states right
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with this redistricting fights or in court redistricting fights and then what's happening
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at the state parties right now with real maga is a warning sign you want to get up that hey if we
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want to really win we're going to have to bring the heat caroline renn right well i like what you i love
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that you played that clip and i like what you said about knowing our enemy i feel very strongly about
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this in fact um i listen to the bulwark every day and people always ask me the bulwark is a bunch of
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disinfected republicans you know charlie sykes tim miller sarah longwell these folks and i like to listen
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because i want to know what our enemies and the people against us are talking about and what was
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fascinating in fact sarah longwell did a uh focus group with jake tapper this is a podcast that dropped
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a couple days ago and a hundred percent of the respondents for the first time ever said they were
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voting for donald trump in this focus group and she was talking about how a few months ago it was 55
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trump and then like 40 de santis zero for de santis so i mean they and just listening to them just be
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like playing what these focus group what these people were saying in them was so amazing it was
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that they felt like they were you know not originally with donald trump but watching the
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government weaponize against him made them realize wow he must be strong so while the democrats and the
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uniparty think that they're killing us they think that they're killing trump they are doing the
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opposite all the signs are there i don't think that washington post abc poll was an outlier and
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typically i think polls are for strippers and firemen but in this case i actually do think that that
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is an accurate case based off of what i'm seeing out there in the states so what this means though is is
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that we need to spend a little bit less of our time worrying too much about where nikki haley or
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these people are talking about the presidential primary is done what we need to be watching is
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what the uniparty does to try to defeat donald trump and whether or not that's with no labels or what
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how they're going to organize again to try and spend money against him to try and cheat in the
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different swing states and elections and really focusing on joe biden as our enemy and then really
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looking at these senate races and some of these house races because my belief is that president
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donald trump is going to get in jack vasobiak put out a hilarious tweet that said donald trump is now
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pulling above the margin of fraud we are getting close to that you know they will they will try to
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cheat in every way possible but when he gets in are we going to have the soldiers and lieutenants in the
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united states senate and in the united states congress with him to truly take on this weaponization of
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government and that needs to be a focus now this weekend with carrie it was incredible she's just still
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going all around we were in iowa the 1500 people showed up on saturday morning to attend a prayer
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breakfast with carrie lake all of them were voting for trump trump it is maga country in iowa she went
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door to door knocking doors every house i'm with trump i'm with trump we then went to michigan michigan
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was fascinating michigan gop is a great example of what is going on right now in the problems with the
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republican party structure the christina karamo won against all odds and before christina karamo michigan
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gop had always been run by various establishment republicans they have this huge combat at mackinac
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island every year all the big donors come and you know all the presidential candidates traditionally
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have come through they have been trying to kill christina karamo because she's focused on election
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integrity in america first and so she was up against a lot of odds the party chair before her in fact
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bankrupted the party to hand her an empty account and i'm so proud of her what she was able to execute
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this weekend up against so many of her on she had the most professional team and these were teams of
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volunteers these weren't paid professionals consultants christina karamo went out and found
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people in her community and said can you help me execute this conference i know that you run a
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business can you help me run this like a business my goodness did they they were on top of they were
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calling me every day what type of water would carry lake like in a room what is the flight time arrival
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we want to make sure your bags are taken care of just so detail oriented and it wasn't done with
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these paid consultants it was done by people who stepped up and said christina how can i help you
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execute this event and what a fabulous event it was christina um carrie gave a speech to a just
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roaring crowd of excited patriots jim caviezel spoke this is what we mean by the people need to step up
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and take over these state parties and help them out the donors are gone we would love to be able
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to figure out a way to bring them back in and tell them it is imperative to invest in these parties
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they're not willing to do it right now so you the people watching war room need to be reaching out
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to your party chairs your county party chairs your precinct members and saying what can i do i may
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have a skill set maybe it's not that i can't donate the most money but do you have a skill set that you
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can offer your state party or your county party right now you need to do it and this i was just so
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pleased to see the michigan gop come together the way they did i want to i want to stick this for a
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second because this is you know the precinct strategy phase one is every gets involved the precinct level
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and you can start to take over not just the precincts but from the grassroots up you can take
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over the uh the actual state party apparatus which is absolutely critical on so many different levels
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but that goes also comes with the fact that the elites just are going to sit there once again and
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pat you on the head until you can show you can actually run it first thing they're gonna do is
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cut you off from money they're going to cut you off from money and make and as as i can tell you from
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georgia and south carolina and there's across the board nebraska there's going to be huge fights over that
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apparatus at the beginning they're just not going to sit there go oh this is lovely the precinct
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strategy folks are all you know maga's in charge isn't that great no they're going to fight you
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tooth and nail then they're going to cut off the money just go back through how christine krama was
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able to turn this around with no cash at all because i think didn't they make huge payments up
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to mackinac island took a bunch of rooms so the party would be essentially broke uh at the beginning
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of her watch yeah she inherited for example they had uh pretty about 300 hotel rooms and it's a
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the grand hotel gorgeous hotel i think it's about four hundred dollars a night though well a lot of
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people can't afford to do four hundred dollars a night they still want to come participate with
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their party so she inherits this you know hotel minimum all these different things and so it was
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a bear and all the the the donors i think there was even a story day about the there's 87 basically
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donors that have ever funded the michigan gop and all of them said you know that they weren't
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giving this year because of her and then the headline out of this conference was christina
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karamo tells establishment michigan gop to pound sand what a great i actually love that headline
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she pieced it together because she was smart she found speakers that actually people would really
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want to see she charged lower prices for people to be able to come and she was able to make this
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work by finding hotels that were around that were cheaper so people could come in so that way
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they could pay a fee to be able to come to the michigan gop and come to this event and she made all
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this work up against everyone they were dropping go google her name you would you'd be
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amazed by the amount of negative stories that they tried to open up they're trying to impeach
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her all these different things she held her head high and pulled it off and we all need to learn
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from that and in miss your michigan you need to surround yourself and help her but this is not an
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isolated issue in michigan in nevada we have a wonderful chair michael mcdonald is a killer they
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just had an epic battle and won by the way they just went up against the de santis votes and said you
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know what we're not going to let uh the the players that be the the nevada government control our
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primary we're going to have a caucus and do this ourselves they went up against my friend
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jeremy hughes if you remember from the rnc they had a big battle this weekend and won
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seagal chata do you remember how the war room posse got her elected as rnc committee woman
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she led the charge in this fight and we now have an independent caucus that's going to happen in
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nevada that is going to go 90 for donald trump and so these things that we are doing matter so so
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much and i will hear from others last time i was on you know i talked about the pennsylvania
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gop being essential i got a lot of emails and calls of people saying that you know caroline
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i we have a problem with their chairman okay if that's the case go one step down find a county
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chair that you like if you don't like your county chair go to the county over we can't just say no
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no no you know we're going to operate entirely separate we need to still like work within i i still
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like the republican party and i want to take our brand back starting a third party i just don't see
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a route for but so don't just let the you know the if you find someone to be unacceptable to work
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with again just find a different outlet find an outlet through the precinct strategy i could go on
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and on but also bring in speakers there are a lot of people carrie goes almost every day goes around
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to speak and and we almost always say yes we want to help these parties matt gates is willing to go
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around and help people steve you're willing around to go and help people those are ways to help raise
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money for your county parties bring in america first speakers and then execute a strong event and that
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can help but please use the posse as a resource and do not give up it's time to double down
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you see uh i want to talk about the um story in politico uh and i don't know if i have the
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headline if that's the case that's okay but politico's lead story today was how the donors had
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essentially given up on you know the keebler elves is not working out you had uh at the state level
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you had the huge reversal you had the huge loss for the for the desantis forces trying to get trump
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to sign something he would back any candidates trump said i'm not going to fall for that
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you saw the defeat there you've seen as you've mentioned other defeats in nevada etc the donor
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class is coming to the understanding uh and this was before the massive polling that dropped yesterday
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and nbc and abc that it's over this primary is over uh and now it's just few and they're being
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outed every day on places like the war room and other venues out there they're being outed talk to
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me about uh the donor class being being outed and maybe saying hey i can't go forward with the keebler
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else because nobody got traction but in even in that youngkins donors have convinced mccarthy we need a
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45 day cr here because you've got to get past the virginia uh house and senate elections because
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if youngkin doesn't win those he's not going to be able he's not going to be the donor's last best
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hope of taking on trump caroline wren there was no better example of where we are with the republican
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donor class than this weekend seeing chris christie in arizona because he was there for a fundraiser being
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hosted by the arizona cardinals owner michael bidwell but was sitting in the box with the
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cowboys owner jerry jones which to me like what an ultimate backstab right it's like you're in town to
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actually do a fundraiser with the cardinals owner but you went and sat with the cowboys owner but this
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is like the joke of the the republican donors is that our party has just moved so far away from where
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those donors have traditionally been these are donors that were around during the bush times and
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the romney times and mccain times and we aren't that party anymore we're not the party of corporate
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tax cuts we're not the party of endless wars we are a more populous movement that is a more believing
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in we the people and the donor class is not yet caught up with that they continue to still be willing
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to light money on fire on these ridiculous candidates the politico story you told we that we talked about
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this morning that you sent to me was about how these they bounced around from desantis to tim scott to
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nikki haley it's going to be really fun to see these reports come out and see these donors
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give thirty three hundred dollars to basically each one of these candidates this is all money
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that is not being spent on registering voters this is all money that's not being spent on a
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ground game this is money that's not being spent on election integrity these donors they don't care
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they don't at this point i just said they don't mind setting their money on fire as evidenced by a group
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of like eight of the top republican donors in arizona hosting a fundraiser for chris christie
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the next day they're hosting a fundraiser for mike pence it's almost the same host committee
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and these are the biggest donors in each state so we this we have got to figure out a way to
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piece to get one we can do these things more efficiently the amount of waste of donor money
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that is done in the republican party is astonishing it's wasting it on television ads and different
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things we need to spend wiser we need to do a better job of harnessing our low dollar fundraising
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the biggest deterrence to that is win red because our donors desperately want to give they want to give
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to the trump campaign they want to support their local parties they want to support their candidates
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they go online to do so and it's win red and they get very aggregated because they're like well now
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i don't want to give through that entity i have no other option here i can't find a mailing address
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so some of these things are things that i'm working very hard to try and solve with these different
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groups and say look if you're going to insist on win red i mean at minimum put in mailing address
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at the bottom so people who want to give by check can or please move to anidot but we are not going to
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have that donor class we traditionally did i'm trying to find new populist donors out there they
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do exist but guess what republican donors are not really conditioned to blow all their money on
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politics republican donors spend their money on uh very wisely on investing in new companies on saving
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money because they think that the economy if we have joe biden again could potentially tank as it is
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going and all the direction seems to show and they fund their churches and their charitable giving
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the left uses i mean they view their their church is the democratic party so their their philanthropic
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giving is all around their church and their god which is the democratic party soros and bringing down
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western civilization so those are just realities that we have to deal with and we we have to step up and
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offer not just our treasure but our time and our skill sets to help our people get into office because
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we have the right message we have the right candidates we don't have the right organization yet
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but if we can match up those three things we are unstoppable there's no reason why we shouldn't
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be winning races by 10 points as evidenced by the washington post poll because that is truly
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how far ahead we are if we just base this on our ideas talk to me about uh how this is going to
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manifest itself in the primary season in the in the senate and in the house the senate i'm particularly
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concerned about the candidate that i've been on a tirade if you've been following me on twitter about
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is mike rogers mike rogers is a former fbi agent turned congressman who was a uh the chair of the
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house intelligence committee he was one of the authors of the patriot act he is the literal he was
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in charge of funding every single bill that fund the deep state he wanted to jail glenn greenwald by
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the way a journalist over the releasing of the different um wiki leaks documents he is just i mean if i
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could write up a definition or use a person as an example of the deep state this is who this man is
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he left congress 10 years ago to move to florida become a defense lobbyist and a cnn commentator
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where he has spent the past just like ripping donald trump on television in fact i remember i was
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looking at one clip where he is literally saying that donald trump's a conspiracy theorist this is in
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2017 on cnn because he was saying that the doj had been spying on his campaign these are things that
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we now know to be true so this man mike rogers has been recruited by the nrsc by steve danes by
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washington by ron mcdaniel and others to get into the senate race in michigan and i'm just thinking
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to myself are you people insane donald and now he's running by the way as he's trying to brand
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himself as the maga candidate this man worked at all the agencies funded all of the agencies that
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donald trump says on day one he will dismantle when he gets in office and that is who washington dc
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and the republican national committee wants to put into office in michigan to run on a ticket with
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donald trump they must be smoking hunter's crack pipe and so i'm very hopeful that james craig is
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going to get into this race he is the detroit detroit police chief that literally kept that city together
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during black lives matter he's a brilliant conservative man who has already endorsed
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donald trump and you know what i've heard some in the ground in michigan the number one thing is
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they did not want mike rogers but again the uniparty is strong and we have to coalesce behind a
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candidate i hope that ends up being james craig but this is truly the most dangerous candidate
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that they have put up and we need to be watching out also in montana montana is a very winnable race
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for us but the dc establishment all of them ever going behind tim sheehy look i don't know this man
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i've never met him but the first thing i did was google tim sheehy ukraine and all these things pop
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up in fact one was a linkedin post that he did saying just doing gofundme and sending money to ukraine
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is not enough we need soldiers bullets ammo boots on the ground in ukraine to fight russia
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this he made this post less than a year ago now all of a sudden he's in the senate race and he said
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oh no more funding for ukraine i'm sorry but if that is your mindset one year ago it has not changed the
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only thing that changed is you're now in a primary and realizing hey 99 of republican voters do not want
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a ground war with russia and don't want to keep sending blank checks to ukraine so you can't they're
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trying to just whitewash and rebrand these people and we cannot allow it to happen and it is just
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amazing to me that the folks that are in charge in dc of picking these candidates are are doing this
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and they're doing it in such a way of the bribery i mean you we were talking here you had james craig on
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where they had a senior consultant call literally bribe him out of attempt to bribe him out of the race
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and he said no it's no different than what they did to carrie lake do you remember when carrie talked
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about this about six months ago someone came to carrie lake's door and said tell me an amount of
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money it'll take to keep your name off the ballot in 2024 and carrie said zero you can write a hundred
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million i'm not going to do it you saw some stories that carrie is very likely to also get in this race
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in the senate race i'm hopeful she does because donald trump is going to need backup when he gets in
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he's going to need backup to stand up and say whoa wait a minute we're not doing this rand paul is
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basically alone this bill is now going to come through the senate rand paul is the only one who
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can attempt to stop the ukraine funding but they're still going to steamroll him we have to get him
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some backup and if we send people like tim sheehy and mike rogers to the united states senate they are
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not going to be backup for us they're going to be backup for lisa murkowski susan collins john thune
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and the very folks that have gotten us into the particulates that we're in today so these primaries are
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there's no doubt about that um caroline this is an amazing report um and uh other states right now
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local gops give me a give me a minute on that where else should people in these states be looking to
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volunteering and helping folks all roads 2024 especially these are states that match senate
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races and the president so you have nevada you have arizona you have montana has a senate race
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trump will win by 27 points pennsylvania has both wisconsin has both uh michigan has both and so the
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only state that doesn't is georgia georgia though i'm tremendously worried about i mean we georgia we we
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know the history and story there but we've got to get president trump over the line there and we are up
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against not only the democrats but we're up against our own party in georgia when it comes to things
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like election integrity and turnout and you have the governor continuously speaking out and trashing
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donald trump so georgia we need to be worried about but really georgia arizona pennsylvania
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michigan wisconsin nevada um those those are the states and their their local gops have to be well
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funded we have to be organized there we cannot count on the republican national committee and look i'm not
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here just to trash the rnc all day obviously i've vocalized that i don't think rana was the strongest
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candidate and that i don't think she's doing a good job but here's the deal if we have to have a
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you're you donate it becomes trump victory between those entities so i don't i don't just want to tear
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exactly how we did it with ken paxton to have his back to tell those state senators no how we are
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the cr that's the approach that we should be doing with these national republican with the national
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you answer to us not the other way around and so we've got to forge and force these relationships
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american taxpayers are financing more than just weapons we discovered the u.s government's buying
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seeds and fertilizer for ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of ukraine's first responders
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all 57 000 of them that includes the team that trains this rescue dog named joy to comb through
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the wreckage of russian strikes looking for survivors
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and the u.s also funds the divers who we saw clearing unexploded ammunition from the country's rivers
00:32:23.900
to make them safe again for swimming and fishing russia's invasion shrank ukraine's economy by about a
00:32:31.020
third we were surprised to find that to keep it afloat the u.s government is subsidizing small businesses
00:32:38.140
how this uh how are they surprised by that how 60 minutes surprised by that we've been talking about
00:32:48.460
this forever it's five billion dollars a month and by the way they're being hidden oh it's a main
00:32:51.660
bane and a half but no it's there's five bane a month i'm gonna write this a ben harnwell
00:32:56.940
uh from rome ben thank you uh for staying up this evening and and this is this is central to the fight
00:33:04.560
that we're having now on capitol hill you just heard uh about tim sheehy and mike rogers who are both
00:33:12.720
you know mike rogers a deep state guy tim sheehy from the military a neocon uh the historically been
00:33:20.320
all over ukraine now oh no i don't know about ukraine because they understand that the republican base is at
00:33:25.840
zero this 60 minutes thing last night blew people's heads up to the degree that they're funding small
00:33:31.840
business agriculture the seed business walk us through what's happening sir
00:33:35.780
good afternoon steve well you know his news report brings me back to something that we covered on
00:33:43.920
the war room a couple of months ago which was the news that actually ukraine very far from being
00:33:49.100
bankrupt has been stockpiling a lot of the cash the dollars that america has sent through and i think
00:33:54.760
had foreign had a foreign currency reserves from their perspective of several billion um so the
00:34:01.540
country isn't bankrupt it's a legitimate question to ask where is all this money going it's not going
00:34:06.620
on training um uh board of colleagues for sure um today the associated press news had an article and i
00:34:16.820
just read the headline i'm going to in depth saying using duct tape and bombs ukraine's drone pilots
00:34:23.500
wage war with low cost improvised weapons um so it says these stories about the lack of resources on the
00:34:32.780
one hand there's a conflict between those stories um and the fact that we know that ukraine is sitting
00:34:38.860
on a lot of cash um why it's sitting on that cash what it intends to do with that cash is somewhat
00:34:44.660
mysterious as is of course uh where the vast majority of financial support has gone
00:34:50.060
no but i want to get i want to get to the uh i want to get to the to the to the the heart of the matter
00:34:59.100
not only we've sending virtually almost all the weapons and now we're sending intermediate range missiles
00:35:07.580
to escalate the war because the europeans are and even the polls over the weekend said no more you insulted us
00:35:12.980
we're not going to do it you're flooding our country with cheap grain our farmers are getting destroyed
00:35:17.180
we're nationalists we're populist nationalists we can't do that you go to the un and insult us
00:35:21.300
but bifurcate that we are underwriting the ukrainian economy and in 60 minutes just said i mean her
00:35:28.660
opening statement saying we were surprised what you're supposed to be the cutting-edge news service
00:35:33.560
in the world of investigative reporter where have you been these people are so stupid it's been out
00:35:38.780
there that we're said we're underwriting the the economy we're sending i think and this is why we
00:35:43.800
need an audit i i think we're sending five billion a month we're paying for their pensions we're paying
00:35:48.920
for their health care people in the united states wouldn't st louis like five billion of just one
00:35:54.640
month how about charleston south carolina how about uh i can pick detroit michigan cincinnati
00:36:00.240
you know boise idaho pick it this this is this is an outrage in there it's kind of champagne and oysters
00:36:09.920
there you see the pictures of people at the beach they're at the beach they're living the good life
00:36:15.860
the nightlife there is is robust and and vibrant i don't see where i look the eastern part in the
00:36:24.060
shelling and all that is horrific but the rest of the country looks like the party's on at the expense
00:36:29.160
of american taxpayers ben the party set it's only being on at american taxpayers expense we've been
00:36:37.220
covering this i think the last 18 months you know going back if you remember to not only to the the
00:36:42.760
famous beach parties down in odessa um but also that the gold leaf facial massages um of happy memory
00:36:52.600
no um that the party has been going but of course that's only pretty much to a certain strata of the
00:36:58.180
the the gold leaf um facials aren't going to be for ordinary working day ukrainians those are the
00:37:05.300
folks who are going to being sent against their will press gang to the front lines the gold leaf
00:37:11.280
facials which you're paying for which americans are paying for are going to the oligarchs and their
00:37:15.820
families um so there is you know talking about being the how this money is bifurcated on the
00:37:22.460
ground uh in ukraine there is a dissonance there between that how that how that money corruptly
00:37:28.480
is um is swishing about you mentioned steve the these new the attack on missiles i haven't actually
00:37:35.820
been able to find any white house statement saying that that these missiles that these attack comes
00:37:41.860
that are going to be given all i can find is some very well sourced um news reports referring to this
00:37:49.040
but i can't seem to find an official statement apparently it was discussed last thursday
00:37:53.320
between president biden and president zelensky where biden assured hold it hold it hold it hold it
00:37:59.000
i want to i want to i want to go to this this gets to the whole where we are now with this war and
00:38:04.540
politically everything last week was really behind closed doors nobody wanted photo ops with him they
00:38:09.640
didn't do the joint press conference there was no statement on the attack comes but it was leaked out
00:38:14.400
that this happened right now in the capitals of europe and this is why the polish situation is so
00:38:20.020
important for the polls to come out and you know there's many other countries there's a populist
00:38:25.760
uprising from germany you know we had uh we had beatrix on from alternative from deutschland the other day
00:38:31.760
you see what's happening in italy see what's happening in france we just won um uh le pen and front
00:38:38.780
national just won three senate seats that caught everybody surprised over over the weekend although
00:38:44.160
the senate's not as strong as the assembly this is symbolically very important that the populist
00:38:49.280
rights on the rise and the populist right wants this focus on their nation's problem and their people's
00:38:54.340
problem no more money to the oligarchs in ukraine and you saw last week the disastrous for all the
00:39:00.640
zelensky fanboys nobody wanted you know uh mccarthy didn't have his ukraine pin on didn't have his
00:39:07.440
ukraine uh you know uh pocket square on i didn't want a picture in public with him no no picture at
00:39:14.980
all they had one in this private meeting he had the the the house conference didn't want to meet with
00:39:19.940
him they and they didn't allow that forgets talking to a joint session so are we seeing a turning here
00:39:26.380
now has this become front front burner in the in the 60 minutes as weak tea as it was was pretty shocking
00:39:34.000
given what the mainstream media has been feeding the american people because the feedback i got on
00:39:39.640
this people were in shock about they didn't understand how much money people uh the united
00:39:44.080
states was giving taxpayers are giving to individual shop owners over there ben hornwell
00:39:49.040
for sure the the pivot is well underway here in continental europe um you mentioned poland let's
00:39:56.020
just read out the actual quote from uh from the polish prime minister who told zelensky to never and i
00:40:02.980
quote never insult poles again uh after stirring up that drama uh with the grain remark where uh where
00:40:11.780
zelensky had said without naming um specific countries that certain of his european allies were
00:40:17.860
feigning support while secretly supporting russia and that comment was was taken um they personally by
00:40:25.840
poland poland poland thought that uh i think correctly that it was the the object of that
00:40:31.980
statement um and that's a great slap in the face to to the polls and the huge sacrifices they've made
00:40:37.320
and accepting i think over a million ukrainians um over the last year and a half um and that is sort
00:40:45.020
of that you know the difference between now this is how you know that there's a pivot
00:40:48.520
underway because the things that zelensky is saying um though he's toned down some of his bullying
00:40:55.180
um aggression his bullying aggression that is being toned down it's not been eliminated
00:41:02.160
and things that would have just been breezed over without any ruffled feathers six months ago are now
00:41:08.080
sort of taking front page position in the press and staying there day after day that's how you know
00:41:14.000
when zelensky thinks that he's going to be applying pressure um with some of these pointed remarks he
00:41:20.360
thinks oh that's going to give my supporters in poland some the the the bottom-up support in order to
00:41:26.000
pressure the government to give me more support he doesn't realize i don't think steve he doesn't
00:41:30.460
realize that the how how far that the mood now has moved away from i think he went to the united
00:41:35.500
states um very misguidedly but i think he went to the united states last week because he had misjudged
00:41:41.640
the domestic political tenor now with regards to america's support of ukraine and that's another
00:41:47.200
manifestation of how zelensky is misreading these things now you can understand he's spending most
00:41:52.200
of his time in a bunker so you can understand how um how he could misread these things and he'd been
00:41:59.140
he'd been he'd been welcomed right like the second coming of the messiah for for 12 months and he'd
00:42:05.060
been to various parliaments yes he'd been piped in on uh over the screens to on many more so he had
00:42:11.500
in the back of his head this idea that wherever he goes he'll be fated and if the government isn't
00:42:17.260
sort of snapping into that he'll just drop a few remarks and then the mainstream media of whichever
00:42:22.440
country we're talking about will pick up his remarks and and use them to bash the government over the
00:42:26.640
head we're not in that situation anymore and steve now talking about ukraine there is um there is a
00:42:33.300
possibility that the americans are trying out a more subtle maneuver now to create some distance
00:42:40.060
between themselves and zelensky which is why i don't know um i don't think we've spoken this
00:42:45.200
uh um recently over the last uh couple of days but there's now noises coming out of the united
00:42:51.480
states pressure from people including like senator lindsey graham rather strangely putting pressure on
00:42:57.820
ukraine to go ahead and have its presidential election in march next year and i can only guess
00:43:05.180
that one of the reasons perhaps some people in america are pushing this on zelensky because
00:43:10.380
because they know he's his his domestic political support has fallen through the floor um and that's
00:43:15.840
one way that they can promote that the west can promote democracy but in in one way sort of wash
00:43:21.740
their hands of president zelensky i mean i'll be watching this particularly closely now this is course
00:43:27.320
for elections um yeah no this is this is political this is this is political pressure from from the
00:43:35.240
maga base uh ben we got to bounce how do people uh how do people get to you because this the we're
00:43:40.880
gonna have ben on every day talking about ukraine and how it interrelates to the government funding
00:43:45.340
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development going on at tesla this year is this robot optimus yes in order to solve self-driving
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you really needed to solve real world ai um and at the point at which you solve real world ai for
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a car which is really a robot on four wheels uh you can then generalize that to a robot on legs
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as well people have no idea this is this is going to be bigger than the car i mean it could recognize
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obviously recognize everyone in the home yeah could play catch with your kids yes i mean obviously
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we need to be careful that this doesn't uh become a dystopian situation um you know can you have a
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prototype uh sometime this year we might have something useful next year but i think quite likely
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within at least two years elon musk's brain chip startup neural link says it has received approval
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to begin recruiting patients for its first human trial an independent review board has given the
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six-year study the study will use a robot to surgically place a brain computer interface
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or bci implant in a region of the brain that controls the intention to move the overarching goal
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of neural link is to create a ultimately a whole brain interface a generalized input output device
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that in you know in the long term literally could interface with uh every aspect of your brain i mean
00:47:34.000
i'll talk a little bit about a long-term goal uh it's going to sound a little esoteric but it was
00:47:38.900
actually the sort of my my prime motivation kind of what what do we do about ai like what do we do
00:47:44.980
about artificial general intelligence if if we have digital super intelligence that's you know just
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much smarter than any human how do we mitigate that risk it's it's spooky it's spooky um 2030s is when
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the merge happens uh so we've got neural link coming uh and uh you know um maybe maybe maybe other
00:48:04.100
systems like that and what does it mean once you actually are kind of merging with with an intelligence
00:48:08.680
so it's not it's not clear to me that the neural link will be ready before uh agi i think agi is
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probably going to happen first the reason for for neural link although initially we're very helpful
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helpful to people who have um brain or spine injuries and ultimately to improve the bandwidth
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between the cortex and uh your ai the ai version of yourself and if ultimately hundreds of millions
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billions of people get um a high bandwidth interface to their digital tertiary self their ai self
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effectively then that that seems like that probably leads to a better future for for humanity
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stunningly scary the book is dark aeon explains all you joe allen is the author our editor joe um we
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were promised for a long time by uh by um uh elon moss that neural link was always going to be
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something else it's pretty evident what he's trying to do this is the merger of man and the machine
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sir 100 steve and as you saw there at the beginning uh musk has his hands in many different projects
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all of which are directed towards a transhuman vision of the future uh yes i'm sorry two days ago
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uh tesla put out a call for uh 50 plus engineers and roboticists to work on optimus uh people saw
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that display that you saw there the uh the robot is moving objects from one place to another uh it
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seems very modest uh to say the least but i think that it can really uh miss people's attention that
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this is an enormous breakthrough in both artificial intelligence and robotics uh as you heard there
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once you can train an ai on the outside world you can then allow that ai to both learn uh and and
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observe physical things rather than say just text on the internet and of course also to manipulate the
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outside world in musk's dream that will lead to every job on earth eventually uh being being
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taken by robots leaving us with radical abundance to be distributed by tech oligarchs to those who
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no longer have any place in the economy and then the second element that you saw there is neural link
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which people you know i disagree with musk on many things but i cannot emphasize enough how much i agree
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the smartphone is undoubtedly a stepping stone to the normalization of a direct brain computer interface
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and what musk said there and people oftentimes talk about yes it will be used to help the blind see
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in the lame walk that is all true but as you heard him say there his vision his ultimate vision
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is to use neural link to mitigate the risk to link human brains to vast artificial intelligence systems
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how many well there you heard him estimate hundreds of millions to billions of people all of whom are
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jacked into an artificial intelligence system not unlike ants who follow the pheromone trails of a queen
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uh joe where do people go to get you where they get the book where they get all your content
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well as i've said the book concentrates on all of these elements from america to china to israel so on
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the seventh chapter is dedicated to elon musk and looking at his motivations looking at all the
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projects he's at work on and of course looking at that in light of you've all know harari's critique
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in homo deus you can find it anywhere books are sold uh go to amazon if you like skyhorse publishing
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directly you can find links to all of this at the top of my social media at joe b-o-t x-y-z you can find
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it at warroom.org under the transhumanism tab and you can find it at the top of my website
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joebot.xyz if you want to understand the civilizational transformation this is definitely
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the place to start it's a textbook joe joe allen thank you very much look forward to seeing you the
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