WarRoom Battleground EP 385: US Advising Ukraine On How To Spend Aid
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Summary
Biden and the White House have said that as Speaker McCarthy was asking for a continuing resolution to avoid having to take the Senate's Ukraine money, he was actually cutting a side deal to bring Ukraine legislation to the floor with President Biden and House Democrats.
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If you continue to look the other way and shut up,
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then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
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It's another element that backs them into a quarter
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That's why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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House Democrats and President Biden have said that as Speaker McCarthy was asking Republicans
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to vote for a continuing resolution so as to avoid having to take the Senate's plus-up-in-Ukraine money,
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that the Speaker of the House was actually cutting a side deal to bring Ukraine legislation to this floor
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To extend Joe Biden's spending and Joe Biden's policy priorities,
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the Speaker of the House gave away to Joe Biden the money for Ukraine that Joe Biden wanted.
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It is going to be difficult for my Republican friends to keep calling President Biden feeble
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while he continues to take Speaker McCarthy's lunch money in every negotiation.
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The Speaker of the House has responded to these reports of a secret side deal on money for Ukraine,
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opaquely stating that he still wants to fund Ukraine and our border.
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However, I have a few replies to this statement.
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First, the Speaker's statement confirms the existence of a secret deal.
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And I have talked to members of our own leadership who have said they didn't even know
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that Speaker McCarthy was negotiating a secret side deal outside of our conference,
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outside of his own leadership team, for the sake of Ukraine.
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Second, Ukraine has lost the support of a majority of the majority.
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The last time there was a freestanding Ukraine vote on this floor, it was last week.
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According to the Hastert rule, which Speaker McCarthy agreed to in January,
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you cannot use Democrats to roll a majority of the majority,
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certainly on something as consequential as Ukraine.
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So for all the crocodile tears about what may happen later this week about a motion to vacate,
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working with the Democrats is a yellow brick road that has been paved by Speaker McCarthy,
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whether it was the debt limit deal, the CR, or now the secret deal on Ukraine.
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The American people deserve single subject bills.
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I get that a lot of folks might disagree with my perspectives on the border or on Ukraine,
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but can we at least agree that no matter how you feel about Ukraine or the southern border,
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they each deserve the dignity of their own consideration
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and should not be rolled together where they might pass?
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I'm going to come back and ask for the conclusion of that.
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That's where he says he puts McCarthy on notice.
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Natalie, you're one of the top investigative reporters in town.
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You've done such an amazing job on so many complex topics.
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I can't figure out, and I say this seriously, I can't figure out,
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There's so many, and we've been at this for years now.
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Tell me about your, you've got an exclusive report out right now.
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Well, as you always say, you know, make it make sense.
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And I think we talk a lot about managed decline on this show.
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But frankly, I think what we're seeing with Ukraine really is the accelerated decline of this country.
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And in part, it has to do with toppling what is going on in Ukraine.
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We've seen that since 2014 with all the color revolutions going on there.
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I'd be remiss not to point out Victoria Nuland's close interactions with all of that going down
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because she's an important name for the story that I just published.
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But on the other side of the Ukraine grift, beyond the Ukrainian oligarchs, you know,
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embezzling or doing whatever they're doing with our taxpayer dollars, on the domestic side of things,
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a lot of consulting firms that are linked to the White House,
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and some of really the highest level in terms of who they're linked to,
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whether that be Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Deputy Secretary of State,
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In other words, advising the Ukrainian government on how to spend the billions,
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in taxpayer aid that Ukraine has received from various departments under Joe Biden's tenure as president.
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But what's so curious, and I think why people need to go to warroom.org to read this story,
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Hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down, slow down.
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But I'm so shocked about this, put the article up.
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No, this is, audience, I want you angry about this.
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I want you to embrace what Natalie's telling you.
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Just hit rewind and give me that again, because, you know,
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Zelensky had the secret meeting up on Wall Street with Ackman,
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and at least guys from Fink's group and Schwartzman,
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about the trillion dollars it's going to take to rebuild it.
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They're already putting your pension funding money, pension fund money there.
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But this is actually the hundred, and I just saw an AP story, they had the same thing.
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They carved this up to try to make as little as possible.
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It's $113 to $120 billion right now, before we get to the secret deal that he's done.
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Of that $120 billion, of that cash flow, are you telling me that people that are close to Newland
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and to Blinken and this crowd are actually in consulting firms that are guiding where this money goes?
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I mean, quite literally, the co-founder of the consulting firm that is writing white papers
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on how Ukraine should best leverage its foreign aid.
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I'm, of course, talking about the infamous West Exec advisors.
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People may know this firm as the one that caught a lot of mainstream attention
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for being responsible for staffing some of the highest levels, but even junior level too.
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Really a large contingent of the Biden White House in the early days.
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And West Exec was actually co-founded by Antony Blinken and Michelle Flournoy.
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But what's so interesting about her ties to all of this is that there was what was called
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And if you read through it, and this is why people need to read the story,
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not only does it actually admit and outline what their end goal in Ukraine is,
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which is a multi-decade approach to foreign aid.
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In other words, the United States will be on the hook.
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We will be responsible for funding Ukraine's military.
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And they go, list chapter and verse, all of the ridiculous things they want.
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I don't even think the United States military is armed that well.
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But what's so interesting too is that Michelle Flournoy, on the opposite side of things,
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like you were talking about Wall Street, this firm also advises, you know,
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CEOs from some of America's and the world's leading corporations and companies.
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So she did a whole entire media round where she admits to advising Western CEOs
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on how to approach the Ukraine-Russia conflict, of course, telling them to take a hardcore stance,
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a hardcore position, aligning themselves with Ukraine.
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But if you keep reading a lot of these strategy papers, again, the other firm that I'm talking about
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is in the article is Albright Stonebridge Group.
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This is a firm where Victoria Newland used to serve as a former senior counselor there.
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But even our current ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, was a counselor there.
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And curiously, a lot of people who are in the State Department who work on Eastern European affairs,
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whether it's the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian affairs
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or the Secretary of State for Management and Resources,
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all of those people used to work at Albright Stonebridge Group too.
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And we saw not too long ago that they published a white paper.
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They were recently acquired by Dentons, but outlining how they think a policy called land value capture
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should be instituted in Ukraine for them to basically use Western funds,
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use our taxpayer dollars to improve public infrastructure in Ukraine.
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And they talk about how allegedly it should be the Ukrainian people
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who are then pocketing the upside of those investments.
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But I think you and I know well enough that ain't going to happen in Ukraine.
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And I think the real tell here, at least in that paper, is that they admit,
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they say war, conflict, what is the ongoing conflict,
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presents a window of opportunity to achieve changes that would otherwise not be possible.
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But when you talk about why these people want to continue this war and what the upside is,
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And real quick, Steve, too, just to link it to development, I think a few months ago,
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if you remember, there was this sort of mass move, this blitz,
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where a lot of other D.C.-based law firms and lobbyists were registering under Farah
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I mean, dozens of people trouncing registrations, even that I've seen recently,
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And it's just very, very curious to me that you see this massive lobbying push,
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because Ukraine, they don't have the money, the funds to be paying these people, right?
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The only money that they're getting, the only incoming,
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is really coming from the United States, right?
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From foreign aid, from these Western countries.
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So I think it just sort of begs the question as to, you know,
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who is paying the salaries of whether they're foreign lobbyists
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There's just one question for our bringing Congressman Biggs.
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Did you say in your investigative report that the White Paper said,
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they've already laid out this is a multi-decade approach?
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This would be a multi-decade approach from our State Department?
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So that comes from the consulting group that is linked to Antony Blinken.
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And they want us to enter into a joint partnership with Ukraine,
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the United States, and a couple other Western countries to create,
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like you said, that's a direct quote, a multi-decade approach to foreign aid.
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And they list through what they want, whether it's weapons, they want a defense force
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that includes Ukrainians starting 18 years old and above,
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to do mandatory training exercises with their Western counterparts.
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And the buried lead is that they admit in this paper, Michelle Flourney, again,
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who was considered almost to potentially be Secretary of State,
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that they're actively consulting and liaising with political leaders,
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academic leaders, media leaders in the West to try to bring about this,
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And we know the Biden regime doesn't have a good track record of registering
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But I think the point is that a lot of these people right now are currently serving,
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maybe pro bono, I'm sure there's some financial upside for them,
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but they're trying to, I think, really ingratiate themselves
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in this Ukrainian reconstruction scheme because they know,
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just like you see the Clinton Global Initiative trying to get involved in it too,
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they know there's going to be a lot of money on the upside.
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The private meeting they had with Fink and the crowd up on Wall Street,
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This is a new business development opportunity.
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Let's bring in Congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona.
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Congressman Biggs, there's a lot of running around and people talking about this.
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I think the 30-year treasury is over 4%, 4.5%, something like that.
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The 10 years up there, the short-term, it's an inverted yield curve,
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We're going to, I think, increase the borrowing cost another $400 or $500 billion.
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We're trying to calculate right now, but we are at a point of no return.
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we will never pay off one penny of the principal of the $33 trillion.
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We're like somebody that's just barely making the credit card payment.
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We're going to be scrambling to make the interest payments on what we've done here
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But we'll never pay off a penny of the $33 trillion and everything that's added to that.
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Congressman Biggs, McCarthy and this crowd up there get what they've done with the debt deal
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that they basically kowtowed to Biden on and what they've done on this obscene CR
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so that we just get back into the same process.
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Do they understand what they've done to this nation?
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But the scarier part is I'm not sure they care.
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you're actually seeing the interest costs that we pay go above $700 billion.
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And if that's the case, if it moves up a couple hundred million, $300, $400 million,
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we're going to be well above the $700 billion mark having to pay interest next year.
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A lot of people think, oh, well, we're paying on the debt.
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No, this is not like a house where you're paying principal and interest.
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And what that does is the short-term inflationary pressure is there,
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but the long-term threat of insolvency follows because as you get through inflation,
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that's the way they're going to take care of our national debt, Steve.
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And when that happens, you're going to see people rolling wheelbarrows of money
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to get a loaf of bread like you saw, whether it was Zimbabwe or the fine market.
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But Congressman, the guys that get this are the bricks.
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I mean, we're playing that game and destroying the purchasing power of the dollar.
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They're smart enough to understand that, hey, we've had to take this thing
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because it's America's biggest export, and we convert everything into a dollar
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before we do any transaction, no matter where in the world.
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That's why they're sitting there trying to get a basket of currencies somehow convertible into gold
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They're working, the bricks are working nonstop to come up with, to de-dollarize
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because the fiscal irresponsibility of America's uniparty elites,
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coupled with the monetary irresponsibility of the Federal Reserve,
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is destroying the world, not just the American citizens.
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And these guys sitting there going, the American citizens may have to take it, but we don't.
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Yeah, Steve, you know, I've talked to a number of economists,
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economists, and I've asked them, I said, the bricks are working on this.
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And they said, well, the problem for the bricks are that as bad as our currency is,
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which is why they're not looking for somebody's currency.
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They're not going to tie it to the yuan or anything else.
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They are going to tie it to what you're talking about, which is precious metals,
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something that really has inherent intrinsic value.
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In the meantime, my colleagues here continue to say,
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And you're right, that devaluation in our currency
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is what's actually going to lead to the downfall of the U.S.
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but I'm also afraid that the policies of this administration
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might be trying to sprint past our economic demise
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Congressman, right now, there's all kind of, you know,
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I understand tonight he's sitting there in his leadership conference,
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couldn't we just put Ukraine, any type of Ukraine, on hold
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until we get all the appropriate space bills done
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and everything's worked out before November 17th?
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And then we can address Ukraine sometime after Thanksgiving.
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Is that, is that, would that be suitable to McCarthy and McConnell,
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Well, I don't really know what to think anymore
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because Mr. McCarthy has kind of given us misdirection and deflection before.
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And, and I know Biden, you can't trust Biden either.
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But the reality is process wise, you can do exactly what you say.
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You could finish these bills and actually get them done
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My biggest concern is that you won't get them done.
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Is that, and then you're back into the omnibus,
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this big, these big spending packages that carry on the bad policy
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except for to say the bills that we did pass were not great,
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but they were solid bills trying to attack spending in certain areas
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and places, trying to attack policy in other places,
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defunding Mayorkas, defunding John Kerry, those types of things.
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And so that tells me that if we can get those bills,
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the 12 bills out there, there might be reason for optimism.
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I understand they say you can't do motion vacay
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because that'll slow down the appropriations process.
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because they respect you and Gates and the six and the 20,
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and now the 70 that voted against the debt ceiling,
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Are we just playing a game and this is all to get to an omnibus
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We've got some bills to send to the Senate that have good policy.
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I think the Senate's going to strip every good piece of policy out of there.
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okay, you have to fund Mayorkas' position and John Kerry's position.
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and by the time you get to a conference committee,
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they'll say, well, it's too late to wrestle on the conference committee
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I'm sorry to say that, but that's my prediction.
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I think you might see a couple of what I call minibuses,
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where you have two or three bills here put together,
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you will not see what's necessary to bring our spending under control,
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and you won't see any of the incentives that I think are necessary
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to get this administration to actually enforce the law,
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So, essentially what you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong,
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If we don't do it now, it's never going to get done.
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But if you don't do it, this will just continue on,
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Yeah, and it's also my warning to my colleagues,
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Because the reality is the economy is contracting a little bit.
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It looks like it's going to be tough sledding going forward.
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Inflation is going to continue up because of our crummy monetary policy.
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You could actually, the impacts of inflation could be ameliorated
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if you had a good energy policy, but this administration won't do it.
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You've got a lawless administration that has turned every institution
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and every law against and weaponized them against the American people.
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This is the point where we will look back five, ten years from now
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and say, that was when we could have made a difference.
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And I'm afraid not enough of my colleagues will agree with me.
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They've all been put in office by people that rang doorbells and work phone banks.
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When McHenry and these guys stepped in, Garrett Graves, and they say,
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you know, all these accomplishments, outside of what you guys have done
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and put a Bennett to their back, the epic fight in January,
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the epic fight over the debt ceiling, this epic fight over the CR.
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Besides, what have they, tell me what they have,
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when they make the pitch to you guys in these conferences,
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You have an illegit regime that shredded the Constitution.
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We have an invasion in the country now of, I don't know, six, eight, ten million.
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When you're sitting there, when they talk about their wins,
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McHenry was saying today, he said, we don't want to stop.
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But that's not really a win because it's sitting in the Senate.
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We got a couple of good, you know, solid appropriate bills out.
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But that would never have happened if four of us didn't say,
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we're not going to pass the rule on Department of Defense
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Waiting to two weeks before the fiscal year ends to actually start moving appropriations bills.
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It was, I thought it was a piece of crap going over to the Senate.
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increasing your debt ceiling $1.5 trillion over an eight-month period.
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And then when McCarthy comes back, there is no debt ceiling whatsoever.
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You know, gas in Arizona is over $5 a gallon now.
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We're still getting the crazy transgender stuff.
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where conservative amendments on spending and policy
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were getting trounced last week by Republicans.
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They just, they don't want to, they want to do it.
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And we're going to send money overseas to Ukraine?
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how this can turn around, how this can turn around.
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all over this country telling their members of Congress,
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And, but too many people aren't even paying attention, Steve.
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Do you think that this leads to a, an effort to,
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I'm wondering if there were other side deals as well,
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because Hakeem Jeffries will take his pound of flesh.
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I think I published four or five op-eds last week
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Give people an understanding a little bit about process
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and we'll push them out more over the next couple of days.
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Your things last week in appropriations were magnificent.
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People are up to all hours of the morning watching you.
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Congressman Biggs will go up and talk about an amendment
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