Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 397： Growing Pleas To Allow Refugees Into The US

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:14.940 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:22.700 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:28.480 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:33.560 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged we've told you this is the fight

00:00:37.340 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:44.440 stephen k bannon it is my testimony that the order is secure the president have worked very hard to

00:00:51.760 implement a strategy when it comes to the border that is humane safe and has orderly enforcement

00:00:56.800 things are going at the border sir much better than you all expected we have

00:01:04.140 a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation including ours in our administration

00:01:12.420 we have responded with a model approach that has proven to work we have taken unprecedented action

00:01:19.400 over the past year and a half to secure our border and we have a process in place to manage migrants

00:01:24.420 the border we're working to make sure it's safe and orderly and humane the border is closed we agree

00:01:30.480 that the border is secure we're executing a comprehensive strategy to secure our borders

00:01:35.740 one of our highest priorities is to ensure that we have a secure border and that is what we are doing

00:01:40.460 we are stopping the flow at the border the border is secure

00:01:44.580 should arab countries be taking on the lion's share of the burden to absorb what could be over a million

00:01:54.980 if not more refugees from gaza i think there's something to be said about the region's partners

00:02:00.360 being able to support and step up palestinians however that does not abdicate the united states from

00:02:06.720 our historic role that we've played in the world of accepting refugees and allowing people to restart

00:02:12.960 their lives here welcome to war room battleground it's natalie winters hosting thank you for joining

00:02:19.120 us in the 6 p.m hour of what has been a very very long day it is of course wednesday october 18th in

00:02:25.420 the year of our lord 2023 i think we'll be focusing primarily on what is probably the foremost issue that

00:02:33.160 we should be concerned about that is our southern border not the border of any other country or not

00:02:38.280 any other country for that matter um the invasion that is ongoing not just by people quote seeking a

00:02:44.920 better life for economic migrants but by people who really want to inflict damage and pain on this country 1.00

00:02:51.320 as you guys have probably uh deduced by now i'm out of studio um i'm out of town but i will be back soon

00:02:57.520 and steve should be back for tomorrow uh show at 10 a.m um but in the meantime i believe we have john

00:03:04.440 zdrozny joining us um john before we get into everything that we just played in that cold open

00:03:11.500 despite the fact that axios tells us that actually we don't have an open border um if you could just

00:03:17.440 give the audience a little bit of a primer a bit of a background on where you come from in the you know

00:03:22.660 dhs world and trump world and what you're doing now uh hi natalie thank you so much for having me

00:03:29.160 on uh yeah i had the privilege of working in the trump administration for all four years

00:03:33.460 uh white house state department department of homeland security uh and worked predominantly with

00:03:39.240 a lot of other uh friendlies on immigration and national security issues and currently with

00:03:43.500 uh america first legal as the deputy director of investigations and we are continuing the fight to

00:03:48.840 make sure that americans are protected and that its government serves them and it's clearly not

00:03:52.280 doing so based on your cold open so we'll get into the aoc and the prospect of that clip the

00:03:59.940 prospect of you know gaza refugees being resettled here because that doesn't even have to necessarily

00:04:05.040 do with an open border right legal immigration is also i think a weapon that they like to use i call

00:04:10.640 it a weapon of mass migration um but we've talked a lot on this show about the uptick in border

00:04:17.200 crossings by people who are on you know the fbi's terror watch list the numbers are truly staggering

00:04:23.400 um but i'm just curious from your perspective you know you hear a lot of back and forth about the

00:04:28.300 concept of sleeper cells um or just really what is the surge and crossings of people that we don't

00:04:34.120 know given your background your expertise what's your analysis of the really the the national security

00:04:41.140 threat the terrorist implications that joe biden's open border has on this country right now

00:04:46.300 well natalie the national security implications are serious and the threat level i in my opinion

00:04:52.440 is very high i am not in i don't have the ability to quantify it but the reality is since joe biden was

00:04:59.120 sworn in at noon on january 20 at 2021 uh somewhere between 8 million and 11 million people have entered

00:05:05.980 this country illegally now that includes the number that they have admitted themselves have come across

00:05:11.260 the border via parole which is an illegal use of a parole authority i can explain that if you want

00:05:15.340 but then there's also what we call the gotaways the hundreds of thousands to more than a million

00:05:19.660 illegal aliens who were being pursued by the border patrol but ultimately escaped and were never

00:05:24.200 detained and on top of that group you can add what we call the unknown unknowns uh the people who never

00:05:29.980 were detained at all and the only reason we know they exist is because the state and local law enforcement

00:05:34.320 authorities along the border have shown videos footage of illegal aliens dressed in camouflage

00:05:39.780 carrying rifles and rucksacks walking in single file into the united states in broad daylight no less

00:05:45.020 and so the level of threat is high not only because they're tripping over themselves to let as many people

00:05:50.680 that they can let in as they encounter them at ports of entry but because hundreds of thousands to

00:05:56.160 millions have crossed in between the ports of entry now ask yourself this question in a world where

00:06:00.640 joe biden and kamala harris and their corrupt crew have said come on into the entire world and the

00:06:05.200 world has answered why on earth would you sneak in and the answer is simple you don't want to be

00:06:11.040 detected now why wouldn't you want to be detected i don't have the answer to that question but i

00:06:15.340 suspect it's not for good reason you know one thing natalie that no one's really talking about in this

00:06:19.000 country is that since joe biden became president in 2021 there have been more than 150 critical

00:06:27.120 infrastructure problems incidents call them whatever you will uh ranging from massive fires at uh dairy

00:06:34.520 farms with 18 000 cows to people shooting at power substations in north carolina why do you think

00:06:41.040 that's happening i have a funny feeling they're all related and you know what i worry now based on

00:06:45.380 what we just saw happen in israel not too long ago is that um some of those sleeper cells you

00:06:51.100 mentioned are waking up and we're going to find out sooner than later unfortunately whether that's the

00:06:55.340 case or not no i was just talking about this i was actually just at liberty university lecturing

00:07:01.700 some students specifically on that the sort of interesting relationship between you know open

00:07:06.920 border this uptick in mass migration and how you start to see whether it's the food processing plants

00:07:11.780 the train derailments most recently i think there was a convoy of a bunch of military equipment

00:07:16.360 that had derailed and when you have people who like you say the ones that don't want to be detected

00:07:21.340 by the biden regime which is already you know sort of open to the floodgates quite literally

00:07:25.300 they've welded them open uh those are sort of the real concerning ones but i i am curious to double

00:07:31.160 down on i think what you were saying which really is the question you know of is it incompetence or is

00:07:36.800 it intentional and like you said you know you're the person to answer this question because you

00:07:40.900 worked in the trump administration you helped craft a lot of these policies we know the biden regime

00:07:45.320 has sort of done a 180 or maybe more so of a 90 degree turn on you know the efficacy of of border

00:07:50.880 border walls but i'm just curious from a you know dry policy perspective what are some of the changes

00:07:57.740 that you think the biden regime has implemented to facilitate this that directly goes against not

00:08:03.820 just the claims in the video that we played to open but the term that they like to use that is you

00:08:08.440 know oh these are just irregular migration patterns it's seasonal it has to do with climate change all

00:08:14.100 these bogus excuses yeah natalie the most important point that i could make on this front is that this

00:08:21.300 is uh you know you asked was it incompetence or was it otherwise it's otherwise this is a policy

00:08:26.080 um this administration has embraced an open borders policy designed to flood the united states with

00:08:31.080 foreign nationals my take on it is when you spend 50 years aborting americans in the womb 0.99

00:08:35.340 you're short about 64 million voters and as loud and shrill as the left is when they're on tv

00:08:40.620 or burning down a campus or something they are a hyper minority of the american population so when

00:08:46.480 when you put yourself in a posture where you promote the death of babies some of whom will

00:08:51.300 eventually would have voted for you if they'd live you have to find other voters or your toast

00:08:55.400 uh and so what i the way i view this is the simplest way to put it is the open borders fest that

00:09:01.380 has started since january 2021 is essentially a democrat party voter drive and if you're asking if

00:09:06.620 you're saying well john that's not reasonable that they're not voting now you're kidding yourself

00:09:10.520 uh i know you believe that natalie but others who are listening saying that can't be i guarantee you

00:09:14.800 millions of illegal aliens vote in this country because states have inadequate standards to prevent 1.00

00:09:19.080 illegal aliens from voting including in my home state of virginia which uh has a joke of a screening

00:09:24.240 process to ensure that you're legally allowed to vote so uh we really need to get our handle on that

00:09:29.820 but if you're thinking that this is an accident or some sort of keystone cops failure it's not this is

00:09:35.360 what they want and they've got it i have to say like i bet you one thing natalie i bet you that

00:09:40.080 alejandro mayorkas wants to say out loud you're welcome um but he can't he has to go to all these

00:09:46.020 congressional hearings to get punched in the face and he's dying to say like colonel jessep and a few

00:09:49.880 good men your gd right i ordered the code red he wants to say they've achieved this great public

00:09:54.540 policy achievement and can't do it but there's no other explanation for such such a collapse other

00:10:00.200 than intentional conduct and speaking of the the intentionality i guess you could just sort of

00:10:06.600 apply the paradigm of intentional verse incompetence to all these you know train derailments and the

00:10:11.900 food processing plants the weird infrastructure uh just a surge and sort of interesting we'll we'll

00:10:18.720 call it we'll be euphemistic here um incidents but you know we'll get into the aoc clip and i would

00:10:24.240 love to get your perspective on where you think the white house is going to go with you know the

00:10:27.820 potential for bringing in floods of refugees from gaza despite the rest of the middle east not not wanting 1.00

00:10:34.400 them either um but before we get in explicitly to that i'm just curious if you could double down a

00:10:41.080 little bit on that point and specifically through the lens of you know with these ongoing conflicts

00:10:46.460 whether it's ukraine the middle east who knows if something breaks out in taiwan do you think

00:10:51.360 that these incidents or just the the potential for stuff to go very poorly very quickly um is going

00:10:59.360 to increase and and empirically why why do you think that well that's a good question natalie so

00:11:05.780 we actually sat down at america first legal a few uh a few months ago at this point and said how many

00:11:10.920 incidents have there been because you may remember there was a point in time where it seemed like

00:11:14.240 every other day there was a report of uh and something happening at a major critical infrastructure

00:11:19.520 whether it was food based or security based or you know clean water based well we sat down and put

00:11:25.080 some numbers together and we found out that there have been over and i by the way this number is a

00:11:29.420 little bit stale it's about a couple months old more than 150 incidents involving attacks on u.s

00:11:34.300 critical infrastructure um and most of them have not been answered we don't really have full answers

00:11:40.200 as to what caused them now some of them are probably innocent that's just inevitable uh but some of them

00:11:44.860 just are not there was i believe in the mix of that i think what got the american people's attention

00:11:49.580 the most was the derailment and in east palestine uh in ohio and that was just one though probably one

00:11:57.340 of i think i i don't want to give a bad number but one of many train derailments one of many hazardous

00:12:03.340 hazmat carrying truck accidents um several water sewage treatments plant plants around the country have

00:12:09.020 been attacked tens of thousands of dairy cattle have died in mysterious fires now in a world where

00:12:14.940 um we were secure we had a president who didn't hate america i would be more inclined to say well

00:12:21.220 gosh i don't see a conspiracy theory there maybe there's just a fire here and a problem there in

00:12:26.060 a world where we've let literally millions of people into the country most of whom we have no idea who

00:12:29.900 they are or where they're from or what their intentions are it's entirely possible i don't have

00:12:34.180 the answer i just know it's an unanswered question and it needs attention and by the way that number is

00:12:38.480 probably way higher at this point natalie i think at some point the media stopped reporting on some of

00:12:42.640 these incidents is because they realized people were talking about them well i think that the key

00:12:48.400 point too is that all of america's adversaries while i would argue they're probably in a temporary

00:12:53.440 alliance now that is the you know iran china north korea russia axis of the world they all operate i

00:13:00.420 think very closely probably the chinese communist party most explicitly but by the theories of sun tzu

00:13:05.700 and deception and this sort of alternative warfare that's not necessarily kinetic boots on the ground but

00:13:11.860 i don't think there's really any better example that sun tzu would be looking down smiling very

00:13:17.140 happily upon than these critical infrastructure attacks um because the the damages are are palpable

00:13:23.220 but i'm curious now we can get into what i think the war on policy is probably most concerned about

00:13:28.960 which is the prospect of not just having our border be invaded illegally by you know people who are

00:13:35.080 linked to hamas or other terrorist groups in the middle east um but the actual welcoming them in you know

00:13:40.940 give me your tired your poor and apparently your hamas linked migrants too is going to be the new 1.00

00:13:46.500 strapline of the biden regime but it seems like there's some talk there's already been some calls

00:13:50.720 from progressive lawmakers saying that we need to open up our borders i guess even more so um to

00:13:57.960 refugees fleeing gaza west bank you name it what are your thoughts on that do you think that is a

00:14:04.020 possibility natalie unfortunately it is a possibility and it would be a disaster uh republicans can step

00:14:12.080 up when the time comes but uh one of the reasons it's a problem is the palestinian population is 1.00

00:14:17.500 not a good bet in terms of entry it's just not and if you if you are concerned or think that's not

00:14:22.640 correct or accurate look no further than almost every muslim arab leader in the modern middle east who 0.97

00:14:28.560 has said no thank you these are not these are not um you know western european countries or countries

00:14:33.820 that are not involved these are countries that have a very vivid knowledge of what happens when

00:14:38.480 palestinians are in their territory bad things happen and they understand that and we would be

00:14:43.020 stupid to ignore that but one other point natalie that i would make as someone who worked in the

00:14:47.100 administration and was deeply involved in the screening and vetting processes for uh immigrants 1.00

00:14:52.420 is that when you add giant populations of dangerous people or not dangerous people just people

00:14:58.480 to the screening pile you create a huge backlog which makes it harder to make sure you're letting

00:15:04.500 only safe people in um the department of homeland security through its u.s citizenship and immigration

00:15:09.460 services is the agency that carries this program they're the ones that have to screen every human being

00:15:14.040 that are coming to the border in the south applying for asylum or applying to be a refugee from overseas

00:15:21.060 and they've got their work cut out for them there are some problems there in terms of management but i

00:15:25.660 think a lot of employees there actually do try and make sure not dangerous people are coming in when

00:15:30.320 you add another million people to the pile and treat the the addition of uh large numbers of people

00:15:35.980 to the screening pile uh to let more people in you create a backlog which creates pressure on people to

00:15:42.860 not scrutinize applications which means you increase the chances of dangerous people getting in

00:15:47.440 it's inevitable and so you know i know aoc and her friends think just throwing a million here and a

00:15:52.540 million there on the the asylum pile is not a big deal but it has real world implications if this is

00:15:57.360 a reminder almost every one of the individuals um who has been involved in the terror attack in the

00:16:03.240 last 10 years including the czarna brothers were people who came in through the refugee and asylum

00:16:07.480 process someone missed something right and if you keep adding onto those piles you're going to create

00:16:13.500 pressure where applications are not screened more dangerous people come in and we're going to be

00:16:17.920 talking about more bombings in the future and you know if the left is okay with that they can keep

00:16:21.420 doing what they're doing reminds me of how nonchalant these same voices are about our national

00:16:27.360 debt except it's a trillion here and a trillion there john before we let you go and again thank you

00:16:33.100 for this analysis truly i i mean that it's scary but i guess we we have to know knowledge is power

00:16:38.560 uh trump has obviously talked a lot about you know mass deportations wanting to return all of

00:16:43.840 these people home which really is the the only way forward if we want to have a country but

00:16:47.900 in your opinion the feasibility um of these mass deportations how that would look what are your

00:16:54.180 thoughts on that the reality natalie is it's very doable i think one thing we discovered in the

00:17:00.540 trump administration was that um there were a lot of people saying it couldn't be done what they

00:17:04.740 were really saying is we don't want to do it and when you get the right people who are committed

00:17:09.200 and you understand the tools you have at your disposal you can make it happen the reality is

00:17:13.840 the current illegal alien population which by the way natalie is probably more likely between

00:17:18.320 20 and 35 million at this point needs to be removed now do you have to remove every single human

00:17:23.880 being to make people leave no but you do have to remove a lot and i think the reality is a lot of

00:17:28.640 people are not um they're not let's say uh hard to remove the burdens we place on ourselves for

00:17:35.320 removing our self-imposed and in my opinion since it's a national security function uh this is not

00:17:40.540 something that's within the reach of court injunction so the next administration whether

00:17:44.100 it's donald trump or someone else needs to start wrapping their head around the fact that courts don't

00:17:48.260 really have any say here because the president is the one tasked with national security protection

00:17:52.580 and public safety and public defense uh not the courts and so as a result court injunctions

00:17:57.880 really shouldn't be heated when it comes to removal of people speed is going to be important

00:18:01.620 uh because and also the longer people stay here then you get into a situation where they put roots 0.98

00:18:06.800 down and they say well i've been here too long and you get stupid immigration judges who agree with 0.64

00:18:10.780 them speed is important volume is important deterrence is important and with the right people in the mix 0.88

00:18:16.120 you can make all of that happen john thank you so much for joining us if you want to let the audience

00:18:22.520 know where they can follow you i don't think you're a big social media guy but if they can follow

00:18:27.740 america first legal and all the you know investigations and work that you guys are doing where should

00:18:31.640 they go thank you natalie uh yes please come visit us uh at uh we're at af legal.org we're all the

00:18:38.520 usual suspects on social media and come check out the work we're doing we're trying our best to uh keep

00:18:43.260 up the good fight and make sure americans are safe and uh we're trying to be america first unlike

00:18:47.460 this administration af legal john thank you so much thank you have a good one and i think we have

00:18:55.840 todd bensman will continue our uh our immigration talk i promise i don't just try to come on here to

00:19:01.600 make you guys depressed about our future but unfortunately in joe biden's america they don't

00:19:06.760 give me many happy stories to cover um todd i know you've been covering the sort of you know

00:19:12.220 jihad um angle of the immigration process like i say the the weapon of mass migration um but i just

00:19:19.700 love to get your thoughts on the prospect of importing refugees from gaza if you think that's

00:19:25.460 actually going to happen how joe biden would go about doing that what the implications would be

00:19:29.840 well i i have to agree with your previous guest on a lot of that which is that you are going to be

00:19:39.900 importing people who have been indoctrinated heavily from cradle to present against jews against israel

00:19:50.840 and against the united states in a small territory like that where hamas has been in control for

00:19:58.700 16 years straight of everything the school systems the television programming uh and a really aggressive

00:20:08.380 uh propaganda machine that is just um really penetrates uh every aspect of life in in the strip and

00:20:19.420 and the mosques and the imams uh everything that you are definitely going to have a higher risk 1.00

00:20:26.360 of problems with anybody coming out of gaza uh even children young children uh the parents of those

00:20:35.240 children who often you know are perfectly fine sending them into the streets to throw rocks at

00:20:40.760 israeli tanks and soldiers uh and are all urged to join hamas uh i think that that's a bad idea that's

00:20:49.280 it's probably a worse idea even than when we brought in a couple hundred thousand afghans uh that we knew 1.00

00:20:56.440 nothing about uh right off of the battlefields there and we ended up with all kinds of security problems

00:21:02.400 so that that to me is a terrible idea plus there are lots of other uh places of refuge in the immediate

00:21:11.320 vicinity uh neighboring countries like jordan and egypt ought to be pressured into taking on any kind

00:21:18.260 of refugees it's right next door maybe they can stay there for as long as they want and maybe they can

00:21:24.760 go back to gaza at some point uh but why why take that risk i don't know why anybody would want to

00:21:31.800 take that risk here even with women and children i hate to say and my producer sent me i was just

00:21:39.160 reading it while we were sort of on air a very alarming story again i have to guess i have to

00:21:45.740 suspend my disbelief with anything this administration does and how immigration has been exploited but i'll just

00:21:51.280 read the headline dollars for terror the holy land foundation's illegal scheme to fund tamas it seems

00:21:56.700 like it's an old report of yours that they sort of re-upped given the uh the current climate if you

00:22:01.980 could walk the audience just through all that i'm sure and i'll probably hold you through the break if

00:22:06.940 you can stay with us right that was just put out uh by my uh former colleague robert riggs

00:22:13.980 at true crime reporter and um if you could put that up i mean it's a it's a great reprise of the

00:22:22.500 reporting that we did the two of us in dallas when i was working for the dallas morning news and then

00:22:28.360 uh cbs uh o and o up there i owned and operated station up there with robert where uh you had

00:22:36.260 hamas headquarters was in dallas for many many years in the form of a of a quote unquote

00:22:43.960 charity fundraising organization called the holy land foundation the holy land foundation was run by

00:22:52.580 straight up hamas uh leadership that were brought to the united states to raise funds to pay the

00:23:01.100 families of suicide bombers to raise money here under the cover of a charity and send it over there as

00:23:08.200 incentive for suicide bombers to commit martyrdom operations or whatever they want to call it i call

00:23:14.340 it suicide they call it martyrdom uh and that uh true crime report is based on the stuff that we did

00:23:22.100 on those hamas organizations in london and all over texas and all over the united states really

00:23:30.760 those organizations are still functioning in other ways uh there is hamas in the united states

00:23:39.240 uh and the holy land foundation trial everybody there all of the people we were reporting on are in

00:23:47.260 prison now thankfully for 50 and 60 years they're never getting out for what they did but the trial left

00:23:55.600 behind a document uh in the court record called unindicted co-conspirators those are the ones that

00:24:03.920 the government at that time just couldn't get to they didn't have the bandwidth to prosecute all the

00:24:09.800 hamas organizations and they're listed in by individual and organization all the way through there

00:24:17.680 now the hamas people who were left here who weren't in prison sued and appealed that list to to to um

00:24:26.660 take it out and they lost at every stage until they got to the supreme court which refused to take it and so

00:24:33.980 that list stands and you can read uh all of the uh the names of hamas people and organizations that

00:24:41.620 were left behind to operate one of them is care the council on american uh islamic relations care

00:24:50.740 which is put out there today as like the uh spokesperson for islam in the united states

00:24:58.660 they're constantly quoted if you go to their website right now care i think it's.org you'll find that

00:25:04.760 they've got all these statements up there uh in support of hamas and condemning israel with never

00:25:12.220 mentioning what hamas just did in israel uh they're right out there like with those uh demonstrators

00:25:18.040 at the college campuses i have to say i recommend the documentary the grand deception i just watched it

00:25:27.440 recently it has to do with everything that you're talking about um unfortunately baton will definitely keep

00:25:32.980 you through the break but in the meantime war room posse there's a nice story that i have up on

00:25:38.440 warroom.org exclusive hunter biden owned financial stake and digital banking platform for undocumented

00:25:44.880 migrants introduced the founder to joe biden i'm of course talking about the company eplata was founded

00:25:50.960 by longtime biden family business associate jeff cooper uh emails that i obtained from hunter biden's

00:25:57.280 hard drive actually show the first son getting wire transfers from the company and holding an eight

00:26:02.180 percent eight point two five percent stake in the company believe it or not it's unclear whether

00:26:06.600 or not he still holds it this is the kind of go-to platform they are positioning for remittances for

00:26:11.720 illegal immigrants to send money back to their home state home country of mexico it's been endorsed 0.91

00:26:16.740 by the mexican government and if you look at their website they advertise that you don't have to

00:26:21.320 use identification you really can just set up an account um with no paper trail no bank record

00:26:27.500 basically nothing so it's probably rife with human traffickers and some bad hombres as donald trump

00:26:33.340 would say but it's just another perfect example of how the biden regime has exploited probably

00:26:38.660 profited off of these wide open borders and we'll have dodd benzman after the break to continue drilling

00:26:44.340 down on the national security implications that affect every town because as you guys know

00:26:48.820 every town is a border town and we will be right back after this break

00:26:53.500 last month the g20 announced a plan to impose digital currencies and digital ids on their

00:27:09.480 respective populations no i'm not making that up that is a fact central bank digital currencies

00:27:15.640 essentially allow the government to track every purchase you make they could even allow officials

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00:32:19.780 welcome back to the war room we've got a pretty good show going on so far i guess it's it's scary

00:32:26.020 almost as scary as is halloween um but no it's it's very dark stuff again i i second my recommendation

00:32:33.700 as i said concluding the last block to go and watch um the grand deception to make sense of everything

00:32:39.620 that's going on and it shouldn't be lost on anyone that mayorkas set up a special dhs council um with

00:32:46.500 faith-based and religious leaders many of them muslim a lot of them care representatives or care-linked

00:32:52.820 individuals but much like so much of the ideologies on the far left and even the chinese communist

00:32:57.620 party they couch their true agenda and very euphemistic you know racial equality justice

00:33:03.060 laid in terms but in reality what they want is uh very dark and in the case of these groups i would

00:33:08.100 argue it's a it's a caliphate here in the united states uh but that aside and it's not that's me

00:33:13.220 quoting them not my own words um but todd benson before i let you go i'm sure you probably saw and

00:33:18.820 laughed that axios um put out that huge story saying that the open border is a myth uh constructed

00:33:25.060 by people like yourself and myself and steve real quick before i let you go i would just love your

00:33:31.380 reactions not only to the laughable claims but if you think or rather why right now the mainstream media

00:33:37.780 is sort of uh running cover playing a cya uh for the biden regime and everything that they've done to 0.70

00:33:44.180 this country uh through leaving the southern border wide open so here's the ultimate metric that people

00:33:52.820 should look at if you reach the southern border uh and are allowed in and not deported and everybody

00:34:03.540 who reaches the southern border is allowed in and not deported afterwards or detained that's the

00:34:09.860 definition of an open border i don't know what definition axios is going by uh the and it's

00:34:16.420 interesting that they used a photo of somebody stopping migrants at the river that's not biden's

00:34:22.900 people that's greg abbott's people in texas who are trying to block them at the river keep them from

00:34:29.540 coming up the riverbank but biden's border patrol keeps cutting the wire and letting them in by the

00:34:36.420 hundreds and hundreds down there uh that is by definition an open border and there are multiple

00:34:44.260 pathways through you don't have to just cross illegally to be let in you can apply on a cbp one phone app

00:34:52.340 and be let in too uh i'll urge your viewers to watch me uh over the next few days i just got a huge data

00:34:59.860 dump on how many they're letting in and who they're letting in over the bridges uh where you can't even

00:35:06.260 see it and being flown in too so if there are five different ways for somebody to cross the southern

00:35:14.100 border and be allowed and get in i'm sorry that's an open border and they're not deporting uh enough

00:35:20.180 people to really make a dent in incentive uh that's an open border that's all i have to say about that

00:35:27.940 it's open it's wide open they're letting everybody in and barely deporting anyone

00:35:32.740 well i guess if a uh if a woman can be a man and a man can be a woman then an open border can be a 0.92

00:35:39.940 closed border and a closed border can be an open border they're not very good at definitions so it

00:35:44.980 makes sense todd bensman thank you so much for joining us i'm sure people want to get your your

00:35:50.100 first book the predecessor to the current one but also where can they get the current book to exact

00:35:55.220 that one yes where can people go to get that and follow you right well the first book is available

00:36:00.900 anywhere books are sold still amazon um it's 2021 but it's just as relevant now about the jihadist

00:36:08.100 threat at that border everything it's the only book written about that and overrun is my latest

00:36:14.820 book about how we got to this mass migration historic crisis is also available it's in bookstores

00:36:20.980 and anywhere books are sold online and there's an audio book of overrun now too

00:36:26.500 todd thank you so much for joining us thank you and i think we have james bacon joining us people may

00:36:36.820 recall he's been on this program before he was the former director of operations for presidential

00:36:42.580 personnel under donald j trump i think i got the title right um in other words the translation there

00:36:48.900 is that he helped oversee basically all the staffing um of donald j trump's presidency but more

00:36:55.540 importantly the firing and getting rid of uh the bad the bad hombres like we were talking about uh in 0.92

00:37:03.220 the first block um james before we pivot to more broadly what's going on especially in the context of

00:37:08.980 you know the speakership race and just these feckless republicans on capitol hill i'd love your 1.00

00:37:13.940 thoughts in terms of the personnel infiltration and subversion um and really just implementation

00:37:19.940 of trump's agenda particularly on the immigration front because i think it's probably fair to say

00:37:24.260 that that is where he was probably blocked if not confronted the hardest right whether it was the

00:37:29.940 the travel ban the wall you name it um what did you see from your perspective being on the inside and

00:37:36.340 more importantly how do we combat it how do we push back against it

00:37:39.620 well one of the truest things that president trump ever said is that the rhinos are worse than the

00:37:47.140 democrats and so when we were doing presidential personnel we weren't firing the deep state operatives

00:37:54.180 as much as we were firing the rhinos who were too weak to implement president trump's policies

00:37:59.860 they're worse than the deep state in many cases so i think it's about getting the right people in

00:38:06.980 president trump needs to act swiftly you need to send the military to the southern border

00:38:11.940 and just firmly solve the problem and you can't wait or rely on congress to do it because congress

00:38:18.820 is completely irrelevant they're never going to get their act together they're never going to

00:38:23.380 appropriate money for a wall they're never going to vote to secure the border so it has to be done

00:38:29.940 solely by the executive branch it has to be done right away and you probably have to use the military to

00:38:35.540 do it i think that's probably the only way now you said in terms of the you know rhino faction in dc that

00:38:43.460 obviously is is pro open borders you used the word weakness right you said that they just don't have

00:38:49.620 the appetite or the backbone to actually implement the policies of the trump agenda beyond that weakness do

00:38:57.060 you really is that your theory of the case that they just don't have the spine to do it or do you think

00:39:02.500 there are more nefarious motives at play whether it's you know corporate interests the big donors

00:39:08.660 in terms of elected officials but if you if you really get granular with where you think this

00:39:13.060 opposition particularly on the immigration issue comes from again you i think people probably don't

00:39:19.140 appreciate how much first-hand experience you have and actually seeing the enemy and understanding

00:39:24.500 what motivates them so particularly on the issue of immigration if you could just maybe expand a little

00:39:28.740 bit where you think either that weakness or intentionality comes from the aversion to donald

00:39:34.340 trump's you know immigration ideas i think they're motivated by self-interest they don't want their name

00:39:41.860 in the washington post they don't want controversy they're more worried about attending the white house

00:39:47.220 christmas party and getting their lobbying job when they exit the administration than they are about

00:39:52.500 securing the border so that that's the problem in a nutshell i don't think it's bad intentions with

00:39:58.980 congress they're much more captured by special interests it's harder for special interests to capture the

00:40:04.900 executive branch but congress is completely captured if you look at lobbying in washington dc there's a

00:40:12.500 reason you can have a career as a hill lobbyist lobbying congress but there's no para there's no career

00:40:20.340 as an executive branch lobbyist that's not enough because the executive branch isn't as compromised

00:40:26.020 as congress so all of these things contribute to the broader deep state which isn't just the civil

00:40:34.020 servants in the executive branch it's congress that's appropriating the money and basically hamstringing

00:40:40.580 a republican president when they want to do things now i'm sure you've been watching what's been

00:40:47.060 unfolding on the hill in terms of the speakership battle you know it's the it's the war room posse and

00:40:53.300 maga verse like you said the what are the i would say ossified corporate interests that exist in

00:40:59.780 washington dc um just just imagine the country we would have if those politicians feared the american

00:41:05.860 people more than they did k street but unfortunately we are not in that position but i wanted to bring you on

00:41:12.580 today specifically because i wanted to sort of draw the parallel um between what you guys the actual

00:41:18.420 true america firsters um in the trump administration had to go up against to what a lot of the people

00:41:25.300 who whether it was the original 20 and then the hardcore six or the 70 who voted um against the debt

00:41:31.220 ceiling expansion and increase um the people who've continued to vote for jim jordan right the small

00:41:36.020 faction of the people who are on the right side of history we would say um the the parallels to what

00:41:43.060 you guys had to go up against in the first trump administration um but more importantly the lessons

00:41:49.860 learned from that and how in what will be the second term of president donald j trump you know how we

00:41:57.140 actually combat that and how we make sure that we aren't stymied or kneecapped by these same you know

00:42:04.820 rhino types i think that's too cutesy a term but just these entrenched republicans who frankly are

00:42:09.940 probably more establishment democrats um but how we actually go up against them about having the right

00:42:17.540 leadership at the top that can discern the current situation correctly so you see with even the good

00:42:24.820 ones in congress whenever the current thing happens they're not opposing it so it's easy to be against

00:42:32.180 the ukraine aid now after we've already spent 150 billion dollars and it's too late now we needed

00:42:40.420 people to be against the ukraine aid in 2021 it's the same thing with the covet stimulus in 2020 we

00:42:46.340 needed congress to be against it now against it back then and then it's the same thing that's happening

00:42:52.660 right now where biden is about to roll congress again by pairing the ukraine aid with the aid to israel

00:42:59.380 so he's just going to totally roll over the republicans we're going to get more ukraine aid

00:43:04.100 because he's playing them like a fiddle and we have no leadership at the top that understands the

00:43:11.300 current thing and how to take a stand against it so when we get back in next time it has to be a

00:43:17.700 white house that's giving top-down direction that can see these things as they're happening

00:43:23.220 you know not falling for the covet mask mandates the the other stuff fauci as it's happening because

00:43:31.620 republicans are constantly behind the ball now and you're seeing it especially in congress and so

00:43:37.540 congress has made itself more irrelevant than it already was and that's pretty hard to do i think

00:43:43.940 the only chance we have of saving this country is by taking back the presidency and having an executive

00:43:51.380 branch that is top to bottom every position filled with people that um follow the chain of command you

00:43:58.740 know they're in the right place in the hierarchy and you have leadership that is on top of this stuff

00:44:05.380 because we've just been behind the ball for so long there's a funny moment in the interview between

00:44:12.740 tucker carlson and elon musk where uh tucker asks elon you know what percent of twitter staff did you

00:44:19.620 fire and he ultimately gives the figure of about eighty percent right so that's twenty percent

00:44:24.900 remaining and tucker asks you know how did you do that and elon said well if you're not engaged in

00:44:30.660 the business of censorship and trying to promote a certain agenda you actually don't need that many

00:44:36.100 people right it'll it'll run itself and i was i was watching that last last night and i sort of thought

00:44:41.860 that you could sort of draw a same comparison to what you know president trump needs to do um with the

00:44:48.020 federal government if whether when he is re-elected so i'm just curious i know you've come on this

00:44:53.620 program a lot to talk about the tactics that we would take to whether it is you know fire or relocate

00:45:00.740 or just really neuter or nullify the power of a lot of these unelected bureaucrats thank god millie 1.00

00:45:07.380 is uh forcing himself out on his own measure um but i'm just curious in terms of you know actually

00:45:14.740 eliminating certain agencies and i don't even mean the you know traditional conservative talking

00:45:19.860 point of no let's get rid of the department of education yeah i would i would love to do that too

00:45:24.660 but i mean more specifically some of these you know niche nuance agencies that the war room audience knows

00:45:29.700 about but you know the average american probably doesn't whether that's you know cissa in the 1.00

00:45:34.260 censorship industrial complex that they have managed or a lot of these weird review boards and

00:45:39.860 agencies under the purview of dhs that they're using to censor stories so how much of from your

00:45:47.300 perspective the personnel war is you know relocating these people or putting in better people versus

00:45:52.740 how much of it is actually just trimming the fat and getting rid of some of these agencies that

00:45:57.220 shouldn't exist in the first place there's two parts of this there's the left-wing expert class at

00:46:04.340 the top and that's the real deep state but then beneath them is what i call the dmv state because

00:46:10.820 it's more akin to what you get when you walk into your local dmv the dmv state are the millions of

00:46:17.940 unionized civil service protected unproductive non-essential employees that are dead weight on

00:46:24.980 this country and they are literally classified as non-essential by the office of management and budget

00:46:32.260 that means when there's a government shutdown all these non-essential employees go home

00:46:38.660 and what happens nothing happens we've been through many government shutdowns in recent years

00:46:44.820 and nothing happens when these non-essential employees go home so the next president needs to

00:46:50.900 cut non-essential bureaucracy and that means mass government layoffs mass government layoffs is the

00:46:57.700 only way to cut the non-essential bureaucracy and the left will scream about it but there's nothing

00:47:03.700 radical with trimming the fat i am very pro trimming the fat in all regards james bacon thank you so much

00:47:14.340 for joining us if people want to follow you stay up to date with everything you're working on i know

00:47:18.500 you sort of uh are elusive when it comes to the social media sphere but if people want to stay up to date

00:47:23.780 how can how can they find you if they can project 2025.org and see the ways that we're going to be

00:47:32.100 doing a better transition compared to the last transition real quick before i let you go if

00:47:37.780 you want to just explain a little bit about what project 2025 is project 2025 is an effort to basically

00:47:47.060 get the personnel right for the next administration uh president trump had did not have the administration

00:47:54.660 he deserved and so we're trying to right that wrong by bringing real patriots to dc and having a battle

00:48:00.740 plan to take on the deep state on day one real patriots no experts from the atlantic council brookings

00:48:09.300 institute csis or any of these think tanks masquerading i guess they're activist organizations

00:48:17.220 masquerading as think tanks probably just fronts for money laundering but that that's for another show

00:48:22.740 james thank you so much for joining us thank you for having me thank you and war room posse we got a few

00:48:30.260 minutes here so i wanted to go through at steve's request um some of the latest stories that we've been

00:48:35.460 publishing on war room.org which is why you of course have to sign up for the newsletter but it

00:48:40.580 has to do with hunter biden's foreign business affairs and how they link to catch this not this

00:48:47.140 it's not the chinese communist party this time uh it's actually iran and qatar and libya all entities

00:48:53.220 that are very closely aligned financially supporting hamas and their recent terrorist attacks one of the

00:48:58.500 stories we put up or other i put up is an exclusive hunter biden's chinese firm helped iranian

00:49:03.780 company access sanctioned funds broker illegal oil deals people may recall cefc china energy that's

00:49:11.540 the firm that hunter biden was the managing director at uh tens of millions of dollars were allegedly

00:49:16.580 wired into biden family bank accounts that a notorious audio recording of hunter biden saying

00:49:22.100 that he's in business with the spy chief of china that's patrick ho um so i'd uncovered documents

00:49:28.020 from an old trial of patrick ho actually admitting um that cefc china energy back around 2015 2016

00:49:37.780 was helping iranian companies skirt u.s sanctions uh specifically in relation to their nuclear program

00:49:45.700 to get access to bank account funds so they could potentially pursue a deal um with chinese business

00:49:52.420 interests um also on the other end of that story is the fact that illegal illegal oils this is oil

00:49:58.340 that was under sanctioned by the u.s government um an individual people may recall this is where

00:50:03.940 we get granular so i i apologize in advance but gal left that was the biden family whistleblower the

00:50:10.900 israeli citizen who after blowing the whistle on joe biden a few days later he was actually indicted

00:50:18.260 uh for farrah violations for arms trafficking but remember we always had an issue with that uh

00:50:25.380 indictment because he basically did the same things that hunter biden was doing because he was working

00:50:30.500 on behalf of cefc china energy too um so it's sort of the the pot calling the kettle black meanwhile

00:50:37.140 hunter biden just gets away you know with gun charges the only charge that doesn't have to do with joe biden

00:50:41.700 but what's so interesting is that gal left was acting per the indictment as an intermediary

00:50:46.180 um to help really create uh an illegal oil deal they were referring to this illegal iranian oil as

00:50:52.580 coming from brazil in text messages and emails though it was actually originating from iran but

00:50:57.780 they were trying to sell it um i believe to china uh you guessed it the new york times did sort of

00:51:03.220 tacitly admit this story back in 2018 buried the lead um and you know a paragraph many many paragraphs

00:51:10.100 down on the story they of course never mentioned the hunter biden connection um but on the the

00:51:15.460 second front of it when it comes to hunter biden's foreign business dealings uh the second story we

00:51:20.420 put up is hunter bite another exclusive hunter biden's chinese firm brokered illicit weapons

00:51:25.780 deals for qatar and libya which fund and arm hamas so this is the same entity cefc china energy again

00:51:32.900 wiring millions of dollars to the biden family hunter biden is a managing director there um in addition to

00:51:38.500 selling uh oil on behalf of iran and liaising with iranian government officials uh it was also unsealed in

00:51:44.660 this indictment that believe it or not they were involved in the arms trade trying to sell weapons

00:51:50.020 that had been either sanctioned or were just generally illegal um to qatar and libya qatar you

00:51:55.860 guys know is of course the primary financial backer of hamas uh libya there's been extensive reporting

00:52:02.340 how a lot of arms that go to libya are then later funneled uh into hamas they use it on their terrorist

00:52:08.020 attacks against israelis and really the the world writ large so very curious there uh this of course

00:52:14.980 i think dovetails quite curiously uh quite nicely with the fact that joe biden decided to release

00:52:20.740 what was it six billion dollars in addition to eighty billion dollars and you know uh more enjoyable

00:52:26.420 oil revenue for the iranian regime due to lax sanctions um so this just shows you i think firsthand

00:52:32.420 you have a regime that is in power that even if they wanted to put america first they couldn't

00:52:37.460 because of the financial business dealings and just very intricate very dark very nefarious conflict

00:52:43.300 of interest uh web of evil interests that have been pursued by hunter biden and when the same people

00:52:49.780 who are in business with the foreign powers that are trying to take the united states off the global

00:52:53.860 stage destroy our global hegemony when that it's the same guy who's in the white house it's not going to

00:52:58.740 bode well world war three or not it's very hard to put america first warm posse thank you for hanging

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