In this episode of The War Room, we are joined by Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Montana) and Rep. Jim Jordan (D-VA) to discuss the ongoing saga of the speaker race and the potential replacements.
00:00:00.000this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:17.520people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:25.280get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
00:00:31.040it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:36.080that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:40.400all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:47.120stephen k bannon welcome to the war room it's friday october 20th in the year of our lord
00:00:53.9202023 it's natalie winters hosting for the fourth hour of war room programming today i guess steve
00:01:01.120is busy uh with cpac stuff he's out in las vegas i am as you probably discern not in studio i'm uh
00:01:08.160in los angeles actually believe it or not somehow managing to survive out here um but as you guys
00:01:14.000know i think where everyone's looking right now is of course the imperial capital that is the city of
00:01:18.800washington dc everything going on with the speaker race but don't be distracted there's so much more
00:01:23.760going on whether it's the investigations and to the biden crime family whether it's linking the
00:01:29.440israel aid to ukraine uh the ukraine grift in and of itself there is a whole scope of issues that we'll
00:01:37.120be focusing on here in the war room today and someone who i would say has basically always been
00:01:42.320on the right side of history uh is of course a good friend of the show congressman matt rosendale
00:01:46.720from the wonderful state of montana who i think we have joining us now um but congressman um i know
00:01:53.520the audience has probably seen your letter by now you and seven of your colleagues as matt gates said
00:01:58.080would take your pound of flesh um in exchange if it just meant advancing uh the speakership of jim
00:02:03.920jordan now i know everything is fluid it seems like he is no longer at least per secret ballot uh the
00:02:11.040elector or rather the designate for speaker of the house but if you can sort of walk us through that
00:02:15.600letter i think we'll throw it up on the screen but also just where we stand in all this craziness
00:02:21.040sure what we recognized but there was uh 22 uh folks that were not going to vote for jim and
00:02:27.840unfortunately it was not based on any policy differences uh at all or an agenda question there
00:02:35.360was really a lot of people that were just very very upset and angry about the fact that we had
00:02:41.840removed kevin mccarthy and rather than have that vented on jim jordan and keep him from becoming the
00:02:48.480speaker because we know that he would do such an incredible job we said look this is in the best
00:02:55.280interest of the conference it's in the best interest of the country if you would need to take some kind of
00:03:00.560retribution out on us censure us suspend us from the conference whatever then we will we will take
00:03:06.960that so long as we can continue to move forward the election of of jim jordan into the speaker's
00:03:13.920position we would be more than glad to take that retribution um unfortunately these folks didn't take
00:03:21.280us up on it uh we look we still believe that what we did was 100 right it was in the best interest of
00:03:29.040the country we cannot have a speaker of the house representing the majority representing the
00:03:34.080republican party garnering more votes from democrats to pass mammoth size spending bills
00:03:41.440than they get from the republicans okay and continue to leave this person in place to mound up continue to
00:03:48.640mound up the the enormous debt on our country and so we stand by the fact that we uh made that motion to
00:03:57.520vacate and and removed him from office but we are also recognizing that we're doing everything
00:04:03.360in our power to make sure that we secure someone else in that seat that's going to represent the
00:04:10.080republican party uh in a good manner you know it's really wild that there's such backlash to the
00:04:16.960removal of speaker kevin mccarthy because i'm pretty sure the polls have showed continuously that that's probably the most popular thing this congress has done at least under the the leadership of the
00:04:25.520speaker mccarthy but of course there's that age-old disconnect between the voters the grassroots and
00:04:32.640you know the lobbied special interests in dc and i'm just curious if you could sort of you know to the extent
00:04:37.120that you can you know put our audience in the room in other words you know you use the word retribution and
00:04:42.560it sounds like some of these grievances may be personal i know there are a lot of personalities and you guys all have to work together and it doesn't always just come together seamlessly
00:04:52.320but this retribution do you think a lot of it is coming from you know the members themselves
00:04:57.520or do you think it has to do with these you know backroom deals the the deals that are being cut not
00:05:02.320even member to member but more so with k street the lobbyists um sort of what the reporting we've been hearing
00:05:10.560so this goes back to january where we were trying to restore regular order to congress natalie and what you saw
00:05:17.920was the consolidation of power over the last 15 to 18 years into the hands of the speaker and the
00:05:24.080rules committee 13 people sitting on the rules committee and we fought extremely hard to empower
00:05:30.000each of the members now look i've said over the last several weeks there's a lot of comments that have been
00:05:35.440made tempers are hot tensions are high and people will say things that eventually that they will regret that
00:05:42.720they have said not everyone can get into this situation of of addressing the legislation that we
00:05:50.480need to put forward and and and not take it personally i don't i keep everything focused on policy so i don't take
00:05:58.400anything that anyone says to heart not everyone is going to be able to do that and and so what you see
00:06:06.160sometimes or when the tensions and the and the tempers get so hot and so high that some decisions are made
00:06:12.800and some votes are cast that not necessarily reflect the true um um desires of that person and so you you
00:06:23.040try to work through it but sometimes it just it doesn't happen and are there outside influences absolutely
00:06:30.080in this city we're talking about the exchange of billions of dollars that are at stake billions of
00:06:38.880dollars if someone casts a vote for something or against something whether it's a contract that gets
00:06:44.720awarded whether it's a policy that gets implemented that means someone has to hire x amount of people
00:06:51.600or different types of companies to to carry out those actions or whether it's just tax code or someone is
00:06:59.440being asked to pay a higher tax rate on something or a lower tax rate on something this is why quite
00:07:05.360frankly i introduced the the uh stock act to prohibit members from being able to purchase individual
00:07:13.120stocks i mean not only are they getting information that is much more sensitive than than what you would
00:07:19.040call insider trading but they literally have the ability here in congress to affect the value of a stock
00:07:25.440by the regulatory climate or the tax climate that they impose upon a business or industry and and so
00:07:31.840all of these things get culminated and you see them come together in this speakers battle and and so you've
00:07:38.160got all those outside interests that are battling to make sure their guy wins the seat and thank god that we
00:07:46.000also have all of the voters out there that a lot of us only listen to that are saying we need to make
00:07:54.880sure that someone is in that seat that is calling the balls and the strikes as they see them in an
00:08:01.360impartial fashion i think the administrative state thrives when the government runs you know on autopilot and
00:08:09.600you don't sort of see the messy inner workings of government the fights the necessary exchanges
00:08:15.120that you have to have because otherwise the backroom deals just prevail and you know frankly i think
00:08:19.920it shouldn't be lost on anyone the story that has to do with the special envoy envoy to iran robert
00:08:24.800mallee you know there's foreign interests really nefarious foreign interests tied up representing
00:08:30.320people otherwise of course not registering with farah in the style of hunter biden i think involved in
00:08:35.360this mix too and i know you've also been ahead of the curve on that i saw you signed on to a letter
00:08:39.920with some of your colleagues um telling senate leadership to not link uh israel aid with that
00:08:46.320of ukraine uh if you could just sort of walk us through that letter and even more broadly your
00:08:50.880reactions to joe biden's speech last night where he basically did just that sure so it's it's really
00:08:58.400disappointing and that's why we did send that letter saying that that these funds should not be linked
00:09:03.120okay and i watched the president i watched that speech last night as he struggled to try and complete
00:09:07.920it uh the the the deterioration of the president is is scary quite frankly it's dangerous the the reason
00:09:16.720that i i'm convinced the reason that there are russian troops in ukraine right now is because of
00:09:22.720this president okay and now he's asking us to spend billions of dollars to to uh do something about
00:09:30.960it but the fact of the matter is that when he first took office and was sworn in he rescinded the permit
00:09:37.920for the keystone xl pipeline keeping us from from bringing in 850 000 barrels a day of canadian north
00:09:46.640dakota and montana crude oil into our nation and then the next thing he did was begin to have negotiations
00:09:54.160again with iran we've seen the amount of money that they have made because of of those sanctions
00:10:00.720being lifted the next thing that we saw was the sanctions were lifted off of the nordstrom 2
00:10:06.480pipeline that empowered russia to generate more money revenue by selling natural gas to europe and then
00:10:14.560we saw the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan where president biden showed just how weak he was
00:10:22.560and and so when you see all of those things take place putin says why wouldn't i go into ukraine
00:10:29.760and start trying to expand our reach but but that is still not the united states war border war to be
00:10:38.320fighting because that's what is going on there and we have already sent 100 over 100 billion dollars
00:10:44.480worth of aid the only thing that we can actually track somewhat is the 30 billion roughly uh dollars of
00:10:52.560aid that has gone in the form of weapons we can't even track all of that accurately and and and then to
00:10:59.120try and bring 100 plus billion dollar uh supplemental bill forward right now and and shamefully tie it to
00:11:08.720israel uh and and put them on the same page as as ukraine israel suffered a terrorist attack and and genocide
00:11:18.080from hamas let's get that straight and to tie the aid that they should be getting to ukraine which four
00:11:26.080years ago had only been described as a corrupt country that was laundering dirty money for dirty
00:11:33.040politicians and and 60 billion of the 100 billion he wants to direct there this is absolutely unacceptable
00:11:41.680and then as the kicker natalie he says we want to send 14 billion dollars to uh increase our border
00:11:49.280security and that's to do nothing but build additional facilities for illegal immigrants to
00:11:54.880move into and provide them a social state uh a network to to prop them up which is going to incentivize
00:12:02.240more illegal immigrants coming into our country the whole concept is distorted before we get into the
00:12:09.680path forward i'm just curious you bring up the border we're not shy here in the war room we think that
00:12:14.000is the foremost issue that people should be focusing on and it's not lost on anyone that when kevin
00:12:18.800mccarthy when they're trying to bring him back from the grave and he was tweeting out those you know cringe
00:12:23.600graphics giving his uh plan forward and they had the five-step plan and plank number four not number one
00:12:29.280or even number two or number three was to secure the u.s border i think that was sort of saying the quiet
00:12:34.240part out loud but before we get into the path forward i'm just curious again to the extent that you can not
00:12:40.000exposing any of of your colleagues but you know at these dinners whether it's at you know capitol
00:12:44.800grill capitol hill club when these people are talking with the lobbyists is there any so i don't
00:12:50.480know what discussions are going on there that's how you know you're on the right side of history um but
00:12:56.400you know in in your maybe maybe your best guess and like i said i think i know the answer to this but
00:13:01.520you know is there anyone in those conversations who is representing the interests of the american people
00:13:07.280when it comes to the issue of immigration securing the southern border it sort of seems like there's
00:13:12.240just a void and it's just these multinational corporations and their lobbyists who just want
00:13:16.000to not only flood this country with endless foreign labor but just expand you know their marketability
00:13:20.880and market access i i look i don't honestly don't get invited to those dinners go figure but i can tell
00:13:29.520you when you're standing down on the house floor uh there's a lot of conversations about making
00:13:35.280securing our southern border a priority and it has gotten stronger it's gotten louder i'll be honest
00:13:40.560natalie uh the posse is who we can count on i cannot believe that there is not an incredible cry from
00:13:48.160across our nation uh from everyone when they see the human trafficking the sex trafficking that we hear
00:13:55.840that we're losing 100 000 lives a year here in our country due to drug overdoses the vast majority of that
00:14:03.920which is coming from fentanyl which is coming across our southern border the components are coming
00:14:09.040from china we know it's a chemical attack from china that's initiating this and and we know that
00:14:16.160for a fraction of what we're talking about sending to ukraine we could secure our southern border we can
00:14:21.920finish up the wall we can finish up the security system that goes along with it and we can implement
00:14:27.520the policies that are necessary to keep folks from streaming across our border just to uh defend the
00:14:35.840asylum status that if people cross several borders they're not coming to the united states to claim
00:14:41.520asylum they've already come across several borders the the remain in mexico policy if we just implement
00:14:47.440the policies that president trump had put into place and were so effective leading up to 19 and 20 we would
00:14:54.640be in really good shape got to bring back the remain in mexico policy especially amidst this probably
00:15:02.080pressure campaign to bring in a host of gaussian and palestinian refugees maybe we need a remain in
00:15:08.880in gaza policy um but representative before i let you go um the path forward um in terms of the speakership
00:15:16.800race i know things are always fluid um but more importantly the war room posse you know who do they need
00:15:22.640to call is there anything or you know certain action item that they should be doing saying calling
00:15:27.360focusing on so everybody needs to listen this weekend this is going to be critically important
00:15:34.080jim jordan has withdrawn unfortunately he's withdrawn so jim is not going to continue to pursue the uh speaker's
00:15:41.680uh seat uh we're going to have names that we were told after the uh after the conference meeting that
00:15:48.240they were going to adjourn and then we were going to return at 6 30 on monday they would announce uh
00:15:54.240the uh speaker candidates everyone has to have their name turned in by sunday at noon that's eastern
00:16:01.200sunday at noon so we should know by sunday evening who those candidates are and at that time we're going
00:16:08.080to need the posse to be ready to uh mobilize and to start uh getting on the phone lines to make sure
00:16:15.920that we support the most conservative strong member of congress to be the next speaker
00:16:24.240any front runners emerging uh as of now or no i look i i left that uh meeting and i've come in
00:16:31.760here to do the interview with you guys and and i have not heard any names yet whatsoever so i've got
00:16:37.920to get back outside of the office and hear whose names are starting to be floated but they look the posse
00:16:44.720knows the war room folks know who the the folks are that they can count upon they know who's willing
00:16:51.600to stand up and be counted to fight for our nation to reduce the amount of spending that's going on to
00:16:57.520make sure that we start implementing policies that do put america first and so uh once we get that list
00:17:04.080we're going to be sharing it with you and and uh your your listeners so that we can make sure we get
00:17:09.600that support rounded up quickly congressman thank you so much for joining us now i have to say i
00:17:15.200think there's probably a direct correlation between coming on war room and uh not getting invited to
00:17:20.160those swampy dinners but i hope that's a trade-off that you're willing to make if people want to
00:17:24.960support you follow you stay up to date with everything you're working on where can they go
00:17:29.600on the official side you go to at rep rosendale all my platforms i keep it simple
00:17:35.200at rep rosendale uh the unofficial side you can go to matt for montana dot com matt f-o-r montana dot com
00:17:46.400thank you so much congressman have a nice weekend thanks for having me on natalie always good to be
00:17:51.040with you of course i think we got mark pauletta joining us now too to sort of at least uh conclude
00:17:58.800this show's discussion of everything going on in the house the speaker race we got some great new guests
00:18:04.160to the show coming after us to talk about some really bombshell investigator reporting but
00:18:08.560mark i know you worked in the trump administration now you're of course people can see from the back
00:18:12.400room behind you the center for renewing america you guys have really been leading the charge on this
00:18:15.760whole speaker race since january um so i'm just curious your thoughts not just everything that
00:18:21.680congressman rosendale said but sort of where we stand jim jordan who potential front runners could be
00:18:27.200what happened everything have at it disappointing day uh a messy day uh not surprising i think jim jordan
00:18:36.720would have been a great speaker um and i think the swamps struck back uh but we can't let them win
00:18:43.200that's the most important thing um you know and i would urge jim jordan to reconsider i just heard uh
00:18:49.120congressman rosendale so say that uh jordan is withdrawn but i hope he reconsiders and thinks about
00:18:55.680uh running again because there was no policy reason right there's no substantive reason for any member
00:19:03.600to oppose jim jordan uh and so um he is by far the most popular um member of congress uh republican
00:19:12.720conservative in the country um and so i'm hoping he reconsiders but we we need to make sure right that
00:19:20.880there is no coalition um uh government uh that was floated that was an absurd idea but could make its
00:19:28.880return um i also think that this needs to be done out in the open uh and have people vote and be
00:19:36.880accounted for in terms of these votes so they should just stay on the floor and vote until they have a
00:19:41.600speaker uh and it needs to be someone again as congressman rosendale said said you know that it's going
00:19:47.040to fight for the american people that's not owned by the swamp uh that's going to reign in spending
00:19:52.160secure our border that's the most important thing natalie as you said i worked i was the general
00:19:57.360counsel of omb uh during the trump administration with russ vote as the director uh and we found that
00:20:04.480money and helped uh you know uh devote that money to the wall and building the wall and when joe joe biden
00:20:10.560came in he obviously just completely stopped it and i'm my i believe that he um um impounded those
00:20:18.320funds um but uh and more importantly he just allowed our border to be overrun um and wide open but we
00:20:26.480need to get back to work the house needs to open back up for to do its work to prevent biden and the
00:20:31.440democrats from running this town um and uh as he's as congressman rosendale said there'll be a
00:20:38.080candidate forum i guess on monday we'll hear who those those people are that are running uh as i
00:20:43.840said i think uh i'd wish uh jordan would reconsider but uh we need a conservative that's not part of the
00:20:49.920swamp to run the house this may seem like a you know naive rhetorical question but i think the
00:20:57.200audience it's probably on their minds just like it's always on mine why did these damn congressmen take
00:21:02.320so many long weekends take so many breaks so many periods it just doesn't make sense um which i would
00:21:09.440argue nefariously it's when the lobbyists get in there and work their magic but from someone who's
00:21:14.640sort of been behind the scenes you know why do you think they're doing why is there not this appetite
00:21:21.200to just continue to hold the votes you know even why did jim jordan call the secret ballot on himself
00:21:27.520yeah you know i think i think jim jordan is a good man i think he he he wanted to get the
00:21:33.760conferences view and that may have been his undoing but i think he thought i want the conference to buy
00:21:40.800into this and and i think the best you know the larger issue natalie of going home and not staying
00:21:46.960in washington i think congress should stay in in in uh i spent 10 years in congress as a chief
00:21:52.080oversight council um back in the uh early mid 90s so the early 2000s and uh i think congress should
00:21:59.600stay in more and get the work done uh and they should have stayed in you know through the weekend
00:22:05.120to get this done because you know like anything the more you take breaks uh the more secret deals are
00:22:11.200cut or people you know the the special interests try and affect things i think this needs to be as again
00:22:17.760jim jordan was the most popular republican member of congress in the nation and you saw the grassroots
00:22:25.280get activated for for jim jordan you saw them calling members you saw members of congress being annoyed
00:22:31.120that they were getting calls from people which is pretty astonishing right and so i think you just
00:22:37.120they need to come back and they don't you know when they start voting they need to not stop voting until
00:22:41.440they have a speaker and as as you said we'll find out who these names are when they file their
00:22:46.240their candidacies on sunday by noon and then of those of those you know people who have filed let's
00:22:52.800figure out who the the best person is who's going to represent the american people's interests
00:22:58.240just curious you said i didn't know that you had worked with house oversight um for nearly a decade
00:23:04.880um your thoughts on sort of the ongoing debate about the efficacy of these investigations where do you
00:23:10.480think they're ultimately headed do you think we need to shake up the leadership i'm just curious your
00:23:15.600analysis yeah i was on the energy and commerce committee as the chief oversight council um i think
00:23:21.600they just need to press and keep i think they are they take time um but i think in terms of you know
00:23:27.920issuing subpoenas and seeking contempt uh and and bringing people in for um you know depositions but
00:23:36.720also hearings so that the american people can see uh you know the answers to these questions and help
00:23:43.280you know drive uh getting to the truth so um i think the the biden folks have been stonewalling
00:23:50.960and people around them uh and they need you know they need to continue to keep pushing and jim jordan's
00:23:57.440a fighter i mean i i've been watching his investigation and he's going to go back um if he doesn't uh
00:24:03.040reconsider and uh get on uh looking into the by administration but um i think that needs to be a
00:24:09.360one number one priority or continue to be uh they take time unfortunately um in terms of you know
00:24:16.480issuing subpoenas and and laying the groundwork so that if you're going to hold somebody in contempt
00:24:21.120um you know you you can you can you can win on it uh but a lot of it is public exposure and bringing
00:24:27.520these people out making them account for themselves publicly uh before congress before the american people
00:24:32.880i saw a lot of people who said one thing uh you know behind closed doors and then you know in a
00:24:38.880hearing um they either took the fifth or they um uh you know they changed their their testimony or
00:24:45.920their their tune when they were before the bright lights of congress mark thank you so much for
00:24:51.280joining us if people want to stay up to date with everything you're working on where can they go to
00:24:54.960find you sure uh thanks natalie uh at mark paoletta is my twitter handle or my x handle and um website
00:25:02.080is mark paoletta.com where i post a lot of op-eds and things i write some of my testimony uh and i'm
00:25:08.160at the center for renewing america as a senior fellow mark thank you so much have a nice weekend
00:25:13.680thanks natalie now war room posse in the meantime before we go to break if you want to check out we
00:25:18.880have a new story breaking on war room.org exclusive google backed biden linked tech firm behind central
00:25:26.080bank digital currencies fund a new program that fines and penalizes users for sharing misinformation
00:25:32.880the company ripple labs which has not only seen a former advisor join the fed under joe biden he was
00:25:38.640nominated he's going to help advise policies on a crypto regulation but they're now funding research
00:25:45.120um into implementing blockchain technology on social media platforms that could lead to you
00:25:50.720potentially being fined if you share stories that are deemed fake news or misinformation they don't
00:25:57.520exactly get into what constitutes either of those monikers but i can tell you it's probably at odds with
00:26:03.920the theory of the case on most issues that we hold here at the war room this company has also enjoyed
00:26:09.680funding believe it or not uh from google and a host of chinese communist party linked uh venture capital
00:26:15.680firms which we'll actually be getting into after the break um but believe it or not they've also met
00:26:20.720with representatives from dozens of countries to help implement the cbdc which you guys may have heard
00:26:26.000about the central bank digital currency which we have a lot of fears that they'll be using that to usher
00:26:30.000in a sort of social credit score like system uh here in the west so i would say this story may just
00:26:37.440confirm the worst so head over to war room.org to check that story out we got two great reporters
00:26:42.480uh after the break so hang in there and we will be right back
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