Bannon's War Room - November 27, 2023


WarRoom Battleground EP 423: Pressure Rises To End War In Ukraine


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

166.70326

Word Count

9,364

Sentence Count

31

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Join us in the War Room as we discuss the latest in the ongoing crisis in Ukraine. This week's edition of the Weekly Standard and the Times of London's article on the situation in Ukraine and its implications for the future of the conflict.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:17.540 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:25.300 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
00:00:31.080 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:36.160 is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:39.920 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:47.040 steven k bannon monday 27 november year of alert 2023 uh welcome for the second hour the early
00:00:57.160 evening edition of the war i'm going to go immediately to rome i haven't had a lot of
00:01:01.520 polls today the reason we've got so much news backed up over the weekend i want to get the
00:01:05.580 personalities the reporters all of it up get the information out we'll have more polls probably
00:01:11.140 tomorrow ben harnwell joins us from rome ben the first piece i know we got a number of things to
00:01:16.080 go through on the international situation particularly relates to um particularly as it
00:01:22.160 relates to ukraine uh but i gotta i gotta start with uh and i'm not trying to gloat here but we
00:01:29.900 want to start with this piece that was in the times of london i think on thursday or friday of last
00:01:34.140 week i put it up on getter uh with the help of the staff i think yesterday it is about this and i
00:01:40.860 think it came from a it was where it was the times of london was doing some of its own reporting but
00:01:46.120 also summarizing what was in was it built uh b-i-l-d the german newspaper about the germans
00:01:55.560 and the americans which are the two leading proponents of the ukraine war are in and i don't
00:02:02.260 even know if there's negotiations or discussions is basically telling the ukrainians this thing's over
00:02:07.740 uh we got to prepare to get the best deal possible is am i being too harsh in my assessment of of
00:02:14.540 these pieces in the german papers and in the uh in the times of london no not at all steve um and good
00:02:22.480 evening to you um and happy birthday um no uh the um this the article here in the times has the headline
00:02:30.820 u.s and germany and i and how is the quote and it's in quote marks pressing kiev to end war in
00:02:38.520 ukraine um and this is an article here that immediately caught my eye um obviously for obvious
00:02:44.460 reasons right because we have been talking about this eventuality for the last 18 months the problem
00:02:50.720 with this article steve and i was and actually appreciate your interpretation of this um that quote
00:02:58.280 pressing pressing kiev to end war in ukraine it doesn't appear anywhere in the article what they
00:03:05.480 have is an unsourced attribution and saying that germany and the u.s are talking about how to apply
00:03:12.940 pressure on zelensky and to to have a ceasefire with with russia and but there's very little breakdown
00:03:20.720 of that and the argumentation in the article confuses me somewhat because if the united states
00:03:27.760 and germany had wanted to apply that pressure on ukraine the time to have done that because here
00:03:33.880 the article is is now really necessary for for ukraine in order and uh to have a ceasefire along
00:03:41.860 present territorial boundaries the the time for ukraine to have done that on its position of maximal
00:03:48.320 strength was before the counter-offensive then it could have had some leverage with russia right
00:03:54.760 now there aren't you know we're going to come on to this there's another article that i'm going to
00:03:58.940 mention uh a little um a little while that says that they're using um sort of machine guns now from
00:04:05.980 the from world war one um we'll go into that in a moment but but the the point is is is that their
00:04:11.940 military capabilities are really being driven down ground down that vladimir putin has his own
00:04:17.860 domestic political pressures in russia he has you know you won't you often hear peeps of this but
00:04:22.840 from the mainstream media but they don't go into it too much he has a lot of you know he's to some
00:04:28.080 extent a lot of moderate but he has a right flank uh that he has to appease um and keep on side and a
00:04:35.320 very strong nationalist flag um and really you know the russian has sacrificed a lot in this war
00:04:42.360 from the russian perspective um and there's really very little interest now in um in uh in in russia
00:04:51.500 in accepting a ceasefire terms dictated by the united states and zelinski when everybody knows the
00:04:58.200 game is up as far as ukraine is concerned so this is a confusing article for me and i don't quite
00:05:03.300 understand i think i think here here's the way here's the way i here's the way i would interpret
00:05:08.260 it when it came out clearly from a war perspective you had better leverage early on but they never
00:05:15.000 thought that the american people this is driven by the fact that the ukraine supplemental is dead in
00:05:20.300 the water uh it would have to be attached to something on the border which there's not enough
00:05:26.100 there and the democrats are going to oppose it so just an independent at the 60 billion dollar level
00:05:31.380 there may look we're adamant it cannot be one penny into the money laundering operation but the
00:05:37.260 americans see uh the demise of this and i think that this is since the times of london along with the
00:05:44.080 guardian i think have done two of the best reporting as you know i want to i don't want to say fake news
00:05:50.020 but at least they've had people there constantly they're a renowned um masthead in europe uh i think this
00:05:58.700 was sending a message to zelinski that hey your two partners are having the discussions how they're
00:06:03.840 going to put maximum pressure on you and if you go don't go down this route you ought to read the
00:06:08.620 biography of president diem um i think it's after the cia's meeting there last week they know in capitol
00:06:16.720 hill particularly with the financial firestorm we've got going on in this huge budget fight coming
00:06:21.920 on where we don't have enough money obviously we're two trillion every year in deficits we don't
00:06:27.580 have the ability to pay for that that uh the funding for the ukraine's done and instead of you
00:06:33.640 know waiting they want to get ahead of it i think the first thing ahead of it they have to convince
00:06:37.440 zelinski that they mean this and the way to do it is to leak it in some of the the major press but
00:06:43.120 give us some of the articles other things are coming up about recruiting about materiel about the
00:06:48.900 rift between zelinski and his military leaders because and i keep saying this the military there is not
00:06:55.420 going to take the rap particularly as this thing winds down from the ukrainian people how do we lose
00:07:01.920 75 000 to 100 000 ukrainians and not essentially pick up a square yard of uh of of the contested
00:07:11.020 territories i think the military is quite adamant the way i read it that they're not going to take
00:07:15.480 the rap on this they're going to say hey we reported to the politicians this was boris johnson's idea
00:07:21.160 this was uh the biden regime's idea and zelinski was their tool to do it and they gave us the money
00:07:27.740 and we took a shot right but we're not going to take we're not going to be left holding the bag
00:07:31.940 of why this was just an abject failure so walk through some of the other stuff because i think
00:07:36.080 it's more evident every day you're seeing this sir steve there's a lot of positioning going on in
00:07:42.660 the media right now and the the natural ostensible audience some of these articles and you just sort
00:07:48.820 of mentioned that that that the article in the times of london was really sort of um aimed at zelinski
00:07:54.540 and his partners in ukraine uh here's an article which is which is absolutely not meant for ukraine
00:08:01.480 but it's meant externally and i guess it's trying to bolster ukraine's position as as things start to
00:08:08.080 implode and talk of a ceasefire which is which should probably be more of a surrender now than
00:08:13.760 an actual tactical ceasefire as as those imperatives start to build obviously ukraine wants to go in
00:08:21.780 that from the strongest negotiating um position possible which is a bit like playing poker it's
00:08:27.840 going to have a lot of bluff to it um and one of the aspects that they're going to try to present
00:08:33.220 this being from at least from the wishing perspective uh a war of nutrition is that
00:08:38.240 they want to try and uh feign the ability to continue on holding holding the present lives
00:08:46.320 now so here's here's an article i think assists the the argument that we're making that not all of
00:08:54.340 these are not all of these articles are uh have a have a have an obvious audience so here's an article
00:09:00.640 which is ostensibly about something that's going on in ukraine uh but it's really meant for for an
00:09:06.700 international audience trying with russia and then to the west and it is to do with conscription
00:09:12.300 now a lot of people have been trying to avoid we know this we've been talking about it for months
00:09:16.320 trying to avoid being called up for the meat grinder so what they've done is they've pinned on the
00:09:23.040 back of this the idea that with the change of defense secretaries a month ago there's now going to have
00:09:28.640 a softer approach to recruitment and that is if you don't know if you've been so far resisting
00:09:34.260 uh your call-up papers or avoiding the press gangs you know you can have a nice conversation with the
00:09:40.540 recruitment office and say what you think your skills are and that you know that might not
00:09:44.920 necessarily send you to the front line you might be sort of sort of operationally miles away doing
00:09:50.320 something more more warm and comfortable um and less dangerous i mean it's clearly you know
00:09:56.480 you know whoever it's article never remembered that the old 80s uh hit tv show uh private benjamin
00:10:03.580 with with goldie horn right once you sign up for military action that's it really you know you don't
00:10:09.040 you they're not going to invite them in for a warm cup of coffee well you know okay no it's snowing
00:10:13.380 it's basically sub-zero we can understand old chap you don't want to go to the front line here come
00:10:17.860 come over here uh and work in the canteen that's not how it works steve but the idea of this article
00:10:23.400 is that there are further resources that have been untapped to do with a uh sort of manpower um
00:10:30.860 man manning the the front lines that they're that they're you know with a change of with a with a
00:10:36.460 more genteel a more more avuncular approach they've got to get huge swathes of young guys to come in
00:10:42.880 and and sign up and that will carry the the ukrainian war effort going on forward obviously obviously this is
00:10:51.460 this is this is as i say this is for a western and and a russian audience to suggest you know
00:10:56.840 that ukraine's sort of quite comfortable in the war can carry on down on the ground you know and we
00:11:02.880 have been talking about this it's it's it's a charnel house it's a meat grinder and ukrainians
00:11:08.060 those that have been avoiding uh the the caller there were a lot of people who did you know out of
00:11:16.060 patriotism who did sort of volunteer straight away in the first few months um but now the people who
00:11:23.260 after nearly two years have resisted so far they're not naive they know very well what the conditions are
00:11:28.560 like on the front line and there's a reason uh that they don't want uh to go um and be fed into that
00:11:35.340 meat grinder and that's the instinct firstly for self-preservation and also because they they realize
00:11:40.880 that sooner or later this war effort is going to end up uh in in talks with putin and you know what
00:11:48.660 we've been talking about here on the show steve for some time is that really what's carrying this
00:11:52.540 this um this war on it's not so much an existential need for ukraine anymore it's an existential need
00:11:58.460 for for biden's reputation and young men on the ground in ukraine you know they have many
00:12:04.500 strengths to them but one of the one of those strengths is not the fact that they want to go and die
00:12:09.800 uh in in order to to carry biden over the line in a year's time in november so so this is this article
00:12:17.220 here you know i'll post all the links it's worth seeing at at the subtle mind games that are being
00:12:23.400 played on all sides but let's be fair on all sides um and sometimes the truth isn't exactly the way
00:12:30.720 they're spinning it let's i want to talk about a quick you've got one and we'll put it up we don't
00:12:37.380 have time for it now but the world war one uh equipment that's being used but i want to talk
00:12:42.220 about both the the the the foreign policy piece about the you know the unintended law of unintended
00:12:48.500 consequences of seizing the assets but also fascinating the polish truck drivers because we're seeing
00:12:54.000 in eastern europe whether i think it's slovakia is the populist new populist guy they're saying we're
00:12:59.720 out of course hungary's taking a hard line you've seen a much tougher hard line by the front facing
00:13:06.300 countries walk me through what's going on with the polish truck drivers um yeah this is just i think
00:13:13.520 just an illustration now that that poland is moving so you know you can see the way things are going
00:13:18.580 there um one of the reasons it took a certain hit that the largest party yeah the law and justice
00:13:24.300 party uh whose prime minister is about to to be re-signed in uh president duda argued that that that
00:13:31.960 that the test the constitutional precedence in poland is that the president invites that the leader of
00:13:37.340 the largest party to form a government and what's unusual this time around is that his own party law
00:13:42.940 and justice doesn't have an absolute majority um a governing majority though it is the largest party
00:13:49.660 so the the polls you know one of the reasons it speculated that that the law and justice didn't do as
00:13:56.020 well in the elections was because it had been attacking a very um pro it had been a very loyal
00:14:03.060 ally of the united states let's put it like that um in this war and a lot of polls are slightly more
00:14:09.380 ambivalent uh through long experience of of punching uh its largest neighbor repeatedly in the nose
00:14:17.500 um so i think what what poland is now trying to do is sort of re-equilibrate its position to one of
00:14:24.120 more let's call it a sort of uh hungarian neutrality and this article here about the polish truckers just
00:14:30.980 basically saying you know um and we have been mentioning this on the show that uh that the
00:14:35.960 polish agriculture for example has taken a huge hit uh over recent months because of the grain exports
00:14:42.380 uh from ukraine and a lot of these areas that are important for the for the polish economy are
00:14:49.100 starting to suffer and this the political patience is winning out and and not understand and understandably
00:14:55.620 uh the the polls are now starting to want to put polish first rather than ukrainians first and of
00:15:03.060 course the polls very generously um accepted i think that like over a million uh ukrainian refugees and
00:15:09.140 still have them and are paying for that um but of course paying for it's causing it's causing a huge i
00:15:15.700 know eu and the united states are underwriting a bunch of that but it's causing huge pain the we were
00:15:20.820 the elites told us and msmc told us every day in the first weeks of this war that the economic warfare
00:15:27.960 part was going to crush the russian central bank take all their currency freeze all their assets
00:15:33.340 internationally freeze all their dollar reserves they couldn't get that putin and the oligarchs
00:15:39.040 around him who are definitely bad guys um that they would be out of business in 30 days
00:15:43.860 that didn't quite happen did it ben it didn't quite happen um you know with uh with hindsight steve
00:15:52.160 i i wonder you know how you know whether these are sociopathic overlords you know whether this is just
00:15:59.200 an example of this is how stupid they think you are or whether really they are living perhaps on jupiter
00:16:04.880 i don't know perhaps in venus they're certainly not living on planet earth um this article here
00:16:11.320 in foreign policy which is very important along with foreign affairs very important um source of
00:16:17.660 information that the foreign elites that the foreign policy elites read um the first thing i'll say about
00:16:24.260 this article that is interesting is that it exists very different type of article from the ones that
00:16:29.520 they were putting out a year or so ago which is a gung-ho about the west basically commandeering
00:16:35.200 russian assets that have been that had been held over in the west and western banks the western bank
00:16:40.280 vaults um and the idea was just let's just commandeer up to up to about 300 billion dollars
00:16:46.300 worth of their asset russian assets and we'll give it to zelensky and the war effort this is a very
00:16:50.520 reasoned article i'm just going to hem in on the third point again i i will post uh the link to this
00:16:57.160 um this is basically a structured argument of saying you know that's probably not a good idea
00:17:03.100 you know with a bit of uh with a bit of thought and analysis and consideration it's probably not a
00:17:09.120 great idea that we do commandeer these russian assets and it gives all the various reasons you know
00:17:14.620 one of the reasons for example steve is they suggest this might be a precedent that china might use
00:17:19.260 against the west which of course is absolutely true um the the third point i'm going to mention here
00:17:26.240 because it sort of dovetails into so it doesn't dovetail it actually sort of um it it replicates
00:17:32.700 an argument you have been making repeatedly over over on the show over the last two years and that's
00:17:38.040 this one here seizing which is assets is unlikely um uh to fuel um de-dollarization efforts and that's
00:17:47.180 the argument here that um that you've been saying that if we do this if we force um if we if we if you
00:17:54.360 know forcing um along with forcing russia off the swift uh banking system all these things all it
00:18:01.540 will do is is cohere the west's uh enemies into a stronger block with which to to then sort of
00:18:09.540 beat us around the head um you know it talks about that the fed and the european central bank
00:18:15.620 and the shift away from western currencies um and that's i think uh finally the the foreign policy
00:18:22.640 establishment catching up with with the line here that you've been pushing on the war for two years
00:18:28.160 but it's very important that they are catching up finally what do you ben we're going to have a fire
00:18:34.800 storm between now and the end of the year it's going to dawn on people that we're we've added another
00:18:38.980 trillion dollars to our debt here in 100 days that will start to dawn on them we're having this huge
00:18:44.200 budget fight that'll culminate in january and february but this month the elites in the in
00:18:50.060 washington are focused on the supplemental and they're still pushing the 60 80 billion dollars for
00:18:56.420 ukraine and and they've even done some gimmicks on the border in the senate etc what what's your sense
00:19:02.700 of how this fight because i strongly believe with the war and posse put in the shoulder of the will
00:19:09.600 they will lose the fight over ukraine spending how would that play in the capitals of europe
00:19:13.900 um i i i think it's increasingly being factored into the price i think you know it to to come back to
00:19:23.900 the point that we're talking about poland now i think they're starting to realize now that the
00:19:27.900 capitals across europe that america between now and next november when trump uh returns to the white house
00:19:37.120 the the the situation the landscape the military landscape in russia is is is is not going to be
00:19:43.900 in line with the the biden jake sullivan axis and you know it's ridiculous to tie it to divide
00:19:52.620 your own national economy your national security your international relationships and your on and your
00:19:58.720 neighborhood policies around a policy a flagship policy in the united states which which is which is
00:20:04.400 which is going to finish in failure there is there is no way for the reason steve that that we pointed
00:20:10.780 out pretty much two years ago that yeah whilst you can say and i don't believe this but but but but
00:20:17.620 there is an argument to suggest that the west had an interest in upholding the the the values of of
00:20:25.420 democracy and and uh and national borders and sovereignty of smaller states as i don't believe that argument but it is an
00:20:33.140 argument whilst it's possible to make that argument it's impossible to say that um that that the west
00:20:39.580 had an existential interest in protecting ukraine's borders and pushing nato right up uh to to russia's
00:20:49.320 border whereas it was an existential interest for russia so whatever happened whatever was going to
00:20:57.280 happen over the last two years it was always clear that being existential threat for russia russia was going
00:21:03.100 to throw everything into this in order to win um and now we're just seeing after we we know
00:21:09.160 i think the west fought far harder than anyone expected it to do so um two years ago when putin was
00:21:16.720 planning its invasion and in fact we've caused ourselves massive political and economic damage
00:21:22.100 um in in the west because of our support to ukraine but fundamentally we it was never existential to us
00:21:29.960 in the way that it was existential to russia's interest and i think you're opening capitals now
00:21:34.580 you know that they're factoring all this in they realize that there's no more money
00:21:38.360 was coming from the united states i think at some point ukraine's going to include
00:21:43.660 i think there's going to be i think there's going to be i think there's going to be shock therapy because
00:21:47.340 i believe they're going to get we're going to get a hard note with no money i think that's where
00:21:51.360 this is going to culminate uh particularly if we do our job ben how do people follow you
00:21:56.100 your engagement on social media makes me jealous where do people follow you
00:21:59.560 thanks steve uh well there's a war room.org if you want to subscribe to the war room's daily
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00:22:12.920 to them and but talking great comments the best comments of all time on getter and therefore
00:22:18.460 i'm flattered and honored privileged to be posted by the best profile on getter which is at steve bannon
00:22:28.120 so um if steve now steve is very kind when he reposts me um if if you're not that patient
00:22:36.000 and you want to see my posts straight away rather than when steven k bannon gets around to repost me
00:22:42.280 you can come to me directly on at harna but i am there on at steve bannon as well thanks very much steve
00:22:48.240 thank you uh brother uh so we're going to get back to there's going to be shock therapy on this
00:22:53.800 ukraine situation because the united states is broke and we can't afford another couple hundred
00:22:57.620 billion dollars to ukraine uh this is one of the reasons you ought to go to birchgold.com right now
00:23:02.000 slash bannon to get the end of the dollar empire particularly focus on the third installment which
00:23:09.220 is the debt trap get the nomenclature the process procedures all of it get up to speed birchgold.com
00:23:15.440 slash bannon go there today also while you're there ask the folks of birchgold philip patrick
00:23:21.140 and the team uh why are the central banks of the bricks nations buying gold at record rates in 22 and
00:23:27.460 23 in the chinese communist party leading that with 25 percent of the purchases being for them
00:23:32.520 ask what they know that you don't birchgold.com slash bannon uh mark jeftovic incredible piece
00:23:40.420 and you were honored to have it put up right away on uh zero hedge walk me through this we're all
00:23:46.460 going to have a carbon footprint allocation and they're going to limit everything we do
00:23:52.460 about that is this some apocalyptic thing is out of your head because you're always coming up with
00:23:57.580 great ideas or is this reality and people should start to focus on it well uh well first off thanks
00:24:03.800 for having me and happy birthday um i've been positing for a long time that cbdcs would have
00:24:12.020 when they finally arrive would be some kind of um social credit mechanism and it's not crazy stuff
00:24:19.140 out of my mind this is just what central banks and think tanks are saying in their own white papers
00:24:24.520 and this is this is for our audience this is central central bank digital currencies which the fed
00:24:29.920 that's the other thing i want to talk about birch gold the bricks are buying gold at record rates
00:24:34.320 the fed is focused on a central bank digital currency you think that that is the way that
00:24:39.620 they get into ccp type social credit score total control of the population absolutely it's going to be
00:24:46.100 the rails for ubi because they're demolishing the middle class it's going to be the mechan the
00:24:52.420 implementation mechanism for modern monetary theory it'll be um and it'll devolve into a social
00:24:59.820 credit system so the article that i wrote up on the weekend i found this um a think tank and a
00:25:07.100 travel agency put out a a report in early october saying that in the future because of climate change
00:25:14.800 it was going to pose an existential threat to the travel industry because people were going to have
00:25:20.640 their travel um limited restricted based on their carbon footprint there would be an equivalent of a
00:25:28.140 carbon passport that would limit how often you could travel in the future because of this climate um
00:25:35.360 you know so-called climate crisis and i i always thought it was going to be natural that when this
00:25:44.080 kind of thing happens it's just going to normally fuse into these this other track that is going along
00:25:49.640 in parallel of the central bank digital currency so the think tank was called the future labs institute
00:25:56.220 the travel agency was called intrapid travel um they it's put out by this lsn global which calls
00:26:04.280 itself a trends intelligence uh organization and they just they strike me as like a a world economic
00:26:12.060 forum wannabe you know a mini me to the wef and they are just speaking very matter-of-factly of
00:26:20.100 this is going to happen it'll happen by 2040 this is just sort of the direction things are going
00:26:25.740 and one of the other mega trends that they earmarked or spotted that they said will probably
00:26:32.580 come along with this is a is a large societal embracement of socialism uh neo-collectivism they
00:26:40.260 call it and so they put out a whole other report on that which i'm going to be putting out in the
00:26:46.120 follow-up article to it but basically where we're headed in the future yeah mark mark hang on hang on
00:26:52.580 hang on for one second we'll take a short commercial break mark jetovic about what the future holds if
00:26:58.120 the fed is successful on the central bank digital currency next in the war room
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00:32:14.980 okay welcome back um we're talking about the central bank digital currency this is the beginning
00:32:22.820 of the end of the dollar empire the de-dollarization by the bricks nation uh as ben said last time look
00:32:29.060 i'm all for economic warfare and i've been a big proponent of economic warfare uh against people
00:32:34.820 like the chinese cameras party but you can only use it one time you can't otherwise you're going to
00:32:39.500 get people jiggy about the swift system they're going to get off it's going to lead to de-dollarization
00:32:43.220 and you're going to be in the mess you're in now but the central bank digital currency
00:32:47.280 i just want to hit rewind i've only got so much time just to make but this is very important
00:32:51.480 when you see think tanks and these groups putting out these papers
00:32:55.360 they're being commissioned by people that have the ability to act and so what you're seeing is
00:33:02.480 these are people that are thinking this through and if they have their way it's going to happen a lot
00:33:06.440 sooner than 2040 so walk me through once again how they're going to get control how the central bank
00:33:11.720 digital currency is eventually going to lead to a social credit score and the control over you
00:33:17.080 including the fact that they can monitor your digital your your carbon footprint so that hey maybe
00:33:23.620 you only take a jet two or three times a year the rest of the time you hoof it mark jeftovic
00:33:29.120 yeah well right now we have this debt-based system which is unsustainable i mean some of the numbers
00:33:38.560 you've been throwing out we're racking up a trillion dollars in debt in 100 days everybody knows even in
00:33:44.960 polite company that the system is unsustainable so central bank digital currencies will be seen as a way
00:33:51.100 to extend dollar the dollar system for another few decades and what i think is going to happen
00:33:59.200 is the idea of what we call money is going to change from these symbolic tokens backed by debt
00:34:08.760 into a social credit score limited by your carbon footprint personalized that's what i think
00:34:16.540 is the unspoken part behind all this in a strange kind of way they're almost sort of going back to
00:34:24.360 the sound money playbook by saying like the debt really is backed by nothing but now we're going to
00:34:29.680 back it by carbon because we have this resource and climate crisis it's uh that's going to be the
00:34:36.600 attempt and the justification to get everybody else i always say everybody else not them to ratchet down
00:34:44.600 their lifestyles and if you look at the numbers they're putting out they're they're calling for
00:34:49.620 on order of an 85 reduction in standard of living in western nations like canada the u.s australia
00:34:57.820 england um because they're going to try and measure it because these because these lifestyles as
00:35:05.460 currently exist are too wasteful too harmful to the environment causing all types of uh issues uh with
00:35:12.580 the third world the developing world right now so this is a new form of neocolonialism and you've
00:35:17.660 got to contract your lifestyle in order to be a good world citizen is that essentially their case
00:35:22.980 what they're going to try and tell the the story they're going to try and tell is there's a climate
00:35:28.440 crisis so we all have to rein in our consumption what there really is is a debt crisis and we
00:35:33.700 and i've always said debt is future value pulled into the present so there is so much debt the crisis
00:35:40.640 isn't the climate the crisis is the debt and so now everybody has to take a haircut to pay off the
00:35:46.600 debt of the of the previous generations and the current generations and the entitlement programs and
00:35:52.400 the politicians spending beyond their means that's the crisis you see it in the graph of the debt and
00:35:58.500 the what's going on with bonds and the trillion dollars every hundred days there's the crisis and
00:36:05.200 no one is going to just take a haircut on that kind of money so everyone has to take a haircut
00:36:09.800 based on their carbon emissions that's how they're going to try and spin this
00:36:14.100 that's okay i want to go i don't have time to go through the day i know you haven't put it up and
00:36:19.940 zero hedge hasn't linked to it but i want to go back to the great reset build back better they
00:36:25.820 understand socialism is a tough sell because of the brand negative equity in it so this concept of
00:36:32.160 neo-collectivism yeah give me walk me through give our audience our audience loves nomenclature what is
00:36:38.000 neo-collectivism well it's communism but what they're trying to spin it as is this this way where
00:36:45.340 focus on individuality and focus on on the self is is minimized because it's harmful and and it's all
00:36:53.260 greater good it's all we're all in this together and so instead of accumulating capital and investing
00:37:00.940 savings you're you're in a pool and you're you're collectively um you know reimagining workspaces
00:37:09.140 and reimagining investments which really just means um you're basically seeding your right to
00:37:15.760 property into equity into investment and in assets and you're going to be put on this this sort of
00:37:22.980 score-based system instead based on your output or based on your carbon output and it really is just
00:37:29.880 euphemistically restating the communist manifesto um the probability that you think this happens
00:37:42.760 you would put it right now you're pretty good probability assessment guy as we sit here today
00:37:47.360 what do you believe the probability is that the treasury department would be able to sell a central bank
00:37:53.380 digital currency to the american people i so there's a lot to unpack in that question because there's
00:38:02.540 there's wholesale and retail cbdcs but let's just say i think they're further off than a lot of some of the
00:38:10.160 some of the more alarmist prognostications say we're not going to wake up before the election and there's a bank
00:38:17.420 holiday in a cbdc simply because i haven't seen enough of the technical groundwork done on a retail
00:38:24.500 facing cbdc i think there's still some time i think it's a lock that every g20 nation and almost every
00:38:33.580 central bank in the world is driving toward a cbdc that's a hundred percent now when do they start
00:38:40.100 launching there's a couple launched already and they're flops so everything that's up and running
00:38:45.740 is failing spectacularly the uh the e naira in nigeria the venezuelans have tried three times
00:38:52.740 they've all failed um it's gonna happen the cbdcs are gonna happen will they get to the point where
00:39:01.660 it's this ubiquitous social credit score it might get there in some localities for a while i don't
00:39:10.840 think it will sustain um and in the states it's a particularly unique battle because of the unique
00:39:17.620 structure of the united states that there's individual states that are already creating
00:39:22.860 legislation saying we're not going to have a retail cbdc here so it's really going to get
00:39:28.300 interesting in the u.s um place like canada it's probably all but guaranteed
00:39:33.680 uh jeff devic will hope to help our canadian brothers uh if they don't want to wait around
00:39:40.440 and read it retail at zero hedge where they go get the original content where they go where do
00:39:46.940 people find you well the original one was in the bitcoin capitalist that's the premium letter
00:39:52.140 from last month but i took i excerpted that i put it out on bombthrower.com that's a free place
00:39:58.340 to you just get on the mailing list there you'll get this and i'm working on the new cbdc survival
00:40:04.520 guide that'll be my next ebook and if you're on a bomb if you're on the bomb thrower mailing list then
00:40:09.300 you're going to get that when it drops perfect mark jeff devic by the way twitter and uh and getter
00:40:17.360 anywhere else we're on social media getter it's bomb thrower twitter it's stunt pope and uh i'm also
00:40:23.540 on noster you're gonna have to just uh catch it off the footer of my article on on that
00:40:28.680 uh amazing content uh mark jeff devic thank you very much we're gonna we're gonna work with you
00:40:35.700 to save our canadian brothers and sisters because we love canada so do i thanks steve happy birthday
00:40:42.380 man love them thanks brother appreciate it roger kimball one of the the uh the strongest axes
00:40:50.360 in the uh maga movement camp of the saints by the way before he came much before he coming on
00:40:56.000 right now schumer's tweeting out that you can't hold up chuck schumer's putting out even as we speak
00:41:01.440 you can't hold up uh the 80 billion dollars to ukraine by putting on some uh some uh much needed
00:41:08.760 um changes to the asylum system to stop the invasion of the country because you can't put up
00:41:14.340 policies are never going to pass with a policy that you need immediately which is putting more money
00:41:19.580 into the ukrainian money laundering system between ireland what's happening in europe the rest
00:41:26.560 why is this book camp of the saints you wrote a magnificent piece on a probably the most
00:41:31.700 controversial book out there today tell our audience what is camp of the saints why is it
00:41:37.240 controversial and why is it a perfect perfect kind of indicator for what's happening on the world stage
00:41:43.200 on this global invasion of native of nation states sir well steve i guess it's your birthday if that's
00:41:51.420 correct happy birthday uh-huh camp of the saints um is a is a novel uh published by a chap called
00:42:00.520 genre spy back in the 1970s i don't think it was meant to be as controversial as it has turned out to be
00:42:09.320 it is a dystopian novel about what happens when untrammeled immigration from the third world
00:42:18.900 shows up on the shores of europe destroys europe and then goes across the atlantic and destroys the
00:42:27.040 united states it destroys in other words civilization but what makes this book so powerful
00:42:34.480 is that respite understood that it was not just immigration
00:42:41.640 it was an explicit attack on everything that made the west the west so we're talking about
00:42:54.140 the rule of law education the family the idea of a meritocratic
00:43:03.760 colorblind society everything that makes the west the west came under attack by this tsunami
00:43:12.840 of barbaric illegal immigration and respite died i think about a decade ago maybe a little more
00:43:26.800 um his book um his book was translated into english the the edition that you show there it's the edition
00:43:33.680 that i have um it is no longer in print uh many inquiries have been made with the french publisher
00:43:41.400 with the family of respite they are not interested in seeing it republished but i think uh i haven't
00:43:50.100 given up on the idea of finding a way of doing this i think that this is a not only a prescient book but one
00:43:58.260 that really does speak truth to power in a way that is um probably unprecedented on the cultural landscape
00:44:08.020 today because it manages to tie the issue of immigration to so many other um so many other
00:44:17.940 things as by the way the 45th president of the united states did
00:44:23.640 right um one of the most powerful things and correct me if i'm wrong it's and it's got some very
00:44:32.020 rough parts to it some of the descriptions of and i think they were coming from india he he was sitting
00:44:37.400 on the beach one time at can yes that's right they were coming from india that's right so that's right
00:44:41.720 it's not really north africa or the middle east or latin america up to america the most powerful
00:44:47.920 part and i've read the book a couple of times the most powerful part to me was the response of the elites
00:44:54.260 not simply the destruction of culture the response the elites and what's so amazing it's almost like he
00:44:59.720 ripped it from today's headlines talk to us about that for a second i mean that was so prescient yeah
00:45:04.020 was that the elites response is almost it's so scary how it's played out 40 or 50 years later
00:45:11.800 exactly nailed it exactly if you go to for example the wikipedia page about the about the novel it says
00:45:19.380 this is a book that is saturated with um uh colonialism white supremacism xenophobia
00:45:29.300 anti-immigration sentiment and so on all of which is a complete fabrication they they the wikipedia
00:45:37.440 editors did not uh really i probably they didn't read the book but then they go on to say that it's
00:45:43.700 popular with the right wing and white supremacists in the united states and um it really they don't they
00:45:52.200 don't spell out the conclusion but the idea is that this book should not be allowed to circulate that
00:45:58.100 that it's that it is a uh incendiary book well in some sense i suppose it is incendiary because it
00:46:03.840 challenges the basic uh fundamental idea of the left these days uh and certainly part of that idea
00:46:15.500 is that there is something criminal something hateful something essentially wrong with whiteness
00:46:24.420 and once you buy into that you have given up everything and i think that uh uh a lot of people
00:46:34.940 should read this book and ponder what it says as you as you point out the the hordes of immigrants are
00:46:40.800 coming in the novel not from north africa not from latin america but from india but the the result
00:46:47.800 is the same it is to destabilize to sabotage to um to turn upside down and invert everything about the west
00:46:57.340 and uh it's it's from that point of view it's a uh a very prescient far-seeing uh book and um i i think
00:47:09.600 it deserves to be more widely read than it is roger we have to bounce uh you're one of the people that
00:47:17.520 write these pieces that get me thinking all the time where where do you go to get all your content
00:47:22.480 your website uh about your publishing a new criterion also the book group uh right and also uh your social
00:47:29.700 media where do people go yeah well i write columns for the epoch times more or less every week i write
00:47:36.660 a column for american greatness more or less every week i write frequently for the spectator world which
00:47:43.080 is the united states version of the london spectator and i write for many other places the wall street
00:47:49.720 journal the the telegraph the new criterion um i do have a twitter account and a a uh a truth social
00:47:58.160 account it's just my name uh so i'm not i'm not hard to find by the way good luck on
00:48:06.400 uh it's a it's a great endeavor to try to get the publishing rights for this this book should be
00:48:11.060 widely read like i said it's got some very rough sections to it some very disturbing sections uh but
00:48:16.820 it is quite powerful about our current condition very powerful roger thank you so much for taking
00:48:21.580 time away today this afternoon to join us appreciate it great thanks steve happy birthday of the saints
00:48:26.600 thanks brother camp of the saints if you even mention it they think oh this guy's a white supremacist
00:48:32.340 far from it you're trying to understand a process that was really called out by a french novelist
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