On today's show, Steve and Jake talk about the latest on the government shutdown, the border, and immigration reform. They also discuss the impact on the upcoming mid-term elections and the impact of immigration reform on the midterms.
00:00:00.640But I guess my question is, is if you don't get H.R.2, that's it.
00:00:05.780You're not willing to. Let's say let's say there was I mean, I've seen the White House and the Democrats in the Senate go in your direction on this issue more than I've ever seen Democrats go in your direction.
00:00:18.880And I've been in this town for a little longer than you. I've seen President Bush try to do this.
00:00:24.440I've seen President Obama try to do this. And it always comes down to the House Republicans and what they're willing to accept.
00:00:30.500You would turn down a compromise that was not 100 percent of H.R.2.
00:00:39.340Jake, I'm not going to answer hypotheticals because they've not sent us any any any suggestion yet.
00:00:44.560There's there's no draft bill. But I would tell you, I don't care if they call it H.R.2.
00:00:48.900I do care about the provisions that will seal the border.
00:00:51.360I don't think now is the time to do comprehensive immigration reform, because to your point, it's very complicated.
00:00:56.680It's very complex to do. But we can seal the border.
00:00:59.420We could do it overnight. The president has the existing authority under existing federal law to do that.
00:01:06.260And he refuses to do it. Secretary Mayorkas has administered this.
00:01:10.140He's in charge of operational control of the border. And what we see here is absolute mayhem.
00:01:15.240This is not a Republican or Democrat issue. It affects every American and every citizen along here.
00:01:20.340That's that's why that's who they need to listen to.
00:01:22.440The argument is no more money for this bureaucracy of his government until you've brought this border under control.
00:01:30.080Shut the border down or shut the government down.
00:02:58.280They originally thought early in the year McCarthy and these guys thought we're going to get more seats.
00:03:01.420But because this audience got behind of Alex DeGrasse and others that were saying, hey, in states like Tennessee and states like Georgia and states like Florida and in New York, we got to fight and we got to get on top of this.
00:03:13.840Because a lot of people, particularly the state level, don't really either pay attention or horse swap these districts for things they're taking at the state level.
00:03:22.280Florida, Florida, and that's why we had this big victory down there.
00:03:25.320Well, it's resurfaced again because the Democrats, Elias and these guys are smart.
00:03:29.240And you saw this situation in Alabama, these other places.
00:03:32.040So DeGrasse, what you're telling me right now, that in two central key parts, both in Florida and in Georgia, we're either held the line or actually in Georgia.
00:03:43.220And you've got to give a hat tip to Kemp and these guys down there.
00:03:46.480They got sued and actually had a special session.
00:03:49.940And you're telling me the map is even better than when the Democrats came after us.
00:04:03.720So I can go through the other states and then we've got the update on these.
00:04:06.440Yeah, give me the other states because I want the Warren Posse to understand that this is going to be another fight that's going to drag through for a while.
00:04:13.860I want to finish with New York because New York's a special case where you've got this out-of-control legislature and a court system up there that's not particularly favorable to MAGA.
00:04:33.680We just had the state Supreme Court there rule in our favor and alongside a prior decision from 2022 that upholds the congressional and legislative map where we picked up a seat.
00:04:47.100They did say the court found that apparently Republicans did, quote unquote, gerrymander, but not to an unconstitutional extent.
00:05:58.220This was the lead story in The Hill the other day, and it's about the Democrats actually losing it, coming unwound on this.
00:06:04.140Explain to me why North Carolina in this cycle is so important, and why are Mark Elias and the Democrats just coming unwound about North Carolina?
00:06:14.240Well, North Carolina is key for purpose.
00:06:17.060Another thing that I've spoken about on the show, right, which is the importance of state Supreme Court.
00:06:21.140So we get that in the bag, we hit it, and we move the numbers on the map, right?
00:06:28.340And they're going to go from seven Republicans and seven Democrats to we should reliably send at least 10-3 with a swing seat with ideally, you know, we could have an 11-3 delegation.
00:06:39.600So we could be picking up definitely three, I think four.
00:06:43.580That right there is the majority, and that's all taken from the Democrats, and you have – I think all the Democrats have quit.
00:06:50.780So one of them is running for attorney general.
00:06:52.860These are sort of no-names, sort of freaks you don't know about.
00:06:55.900But, you know, they're done, and so that's it.
00:06:58.500So that's huge for us as we get those in the bag.
00:07:01.560You're telling me in North Carolina right now we could pick up a net four seats?
00:08:57.460That's why I talked about sort of the timeline in our favor, not planned, but for the liberals watching, including Elias, I'm sure, but just naturally due to the case of it.
00:09:06.900So, you know, as the clock ticks there, we're in a great position, at least for 2024, which is what we're looking at now.
00:09:32.000And the reason I'm worried about New York is not that we don't have the facts and the case to present.
00:09:36.500I'm worried about it's a total socialist situation up there in Albany.
00:09:40.780And then you've got these courts that, as you can see with President Trump, I mean, the courts are out of control.
00:09:45.100I think the American people are now starting to see from both Manhattan and then this civil trial and this defamation thing coming up, the courts in New York are kind of like Moscow show trials.
00:09:55.020So how are we going to sort this out in New York and not end up with, like, you know, two congressmen?
00:10:02.000Yeah, so right now we dealt with the court of appeals situation.
00:10:19.100It's disgraced itself in the last year across the board, especially on this map situation.
00:10:24.120But the reality is that they wrote the remediation of how to fix the, quote unquote, last map is that we have to have a commission, which is 50 percent Republican, 50 percent Democrat.
00:10:33.600They didn't provide another opportunity to alter the maps.
00:10:36.520And so our Republican commissioners are there.
00:10:39.200And everything I'm saying is publicly on the record for all the Democrats watching.
00:10:42.860And they've made very clear that no one can point to an issue with the map.
00:11:09.180I mean, Albany is such a cesspool on the legislative side, on the judicial side, on everything else.
00:11:13.800We're fighting every battle we can on the mail ballots on behalf of the poor President Trump, right, Elise's judicial complaints and everything else that we're doing on Team Elise.
00:11:22.400But this redistribing one is big because obviously you can just move the lines a little bit in certain areas, especially downstate, and start picking off our numbers.
00:11:31.140And so we feel very confident, but, you know, in a way, it's up to the courts and how we handle this commission, of course.
00:12:43.220People really depend upon you in this.
00:12:44.700What's your social media so people are following you?
00:12:46.300We want you back frequently with updates because this redistricting fight is one that the posse's got their jaws onto and they're not going to let go.
00:12:56.440This is what I'm going to say real quick.
00:12:57.860The Siena College New York Times poll, which is like the standard poll.
00:13:00.880I think it's just Siena College in New York.
00:13:02.460They have President Trump, I think, 9%, 10%.
00:13:05.300That's their Democrat bias public polls.
00:13:22.900We've got fights, and these are fights we can win.
00:13:24.500By the way, congratulations to Team Elise.
00:13:27.040We don't have today to get into, hopefully Thursday or Friday, on this situation at Harvard and in Pennsylvania.
00:13:33.300Without her leadership, quite frankly, and brilliant questioning, we wouldn't be in the situation where we remove the head of Harvard and Pennsylvania and a lot more to come in cleaning out the stables there.
00:14:03.980Catherine Engelbrecht has been at this a long time and fighting hard.
00:14:09.580Catherine, explain to me the importance of your amazing victory, because we were there when you were heading in.
00:14:17.080This thing looked like a long shot at one time, but you had the facts on your side, and we actually found a federal judge that agreed with facts.
00:14:24.540Talk to us about this massive victory for you in true the vote down in Georgia.
00:14:30.940Yeah, well, thanks for having me on to talk about it a little bit.
00:14:33.640It was, in fact, a massive victory and complete, total vindication of the work that we've been doing.
00:15:00.580Georgia had a provision that allows for citizens to recognize and petition their counties to also recognize ineligible records in the voter rolls.
00:15:14.980We made an announcement of the project.
00:15:18.000We had found over 364,000 ineligible records.
00:15:22.260And within just a few days, Mark Elias, who was at that point representing Stacey Abrams in Fair Fight, came down with a full weight in force of all that Elias can muster.
00:15:37.600Ultimately, the Department of Justice got involved, and it was a three-year slugfest ending in a trial in the Northern District Federal Court in Georgia a couple months ago.
00:15:48.340So, yesterday, we got the decision that the judge found that we had done no wrong, that we had not violated the Voting Rights Act,
00:15:56.340that we were well within the framework of lawfulness in the process of submitting those challenges.
00:16:04.920And the reason that the victory is so important is not just that we beat Elias and Abrams and the Biden Justice Department, although all of those things are true.
00:16:13.180The reason that it is so important is because had we not stood our ground, had we settled, had we lost, the chilling effect over the country would have been substantive.
00:16:28.000There would have been very little way for patriots to find a path to continue to press for accurate voter rolls, and now it's a whole new day.
00:16:37.120Citizens across the country should be heartened.
00:16:40.980They were trying to put it up almost like a criminal thing, that what you guys were doing was violating people's rights to the fact that you would have civil liability.
00:16:49.440But it's also a lot of the thing that came at you was to intimidate people that, hey, you're wandering into potential criminal charges if you do this.
00:17:04.400They were – not only did they sue True the Vote, but when True the Vote announced this project, there were a handful of other citizens in Georgia that I knew of who were doing something along the same lines of analyzing the records and petitioning their counties.
00:17:17.700And so in my release that we posted on our website, I made mention of them by name.
00:17:23.400So not only did they sue True the Vote, but Elias and Abrams sued everybody I mentioned in the press release.
00:17:30.380And for the last three years, True the Vote has been defending everyone in the interest of being heard on this matter.
00:17:37.480And, yeah, they were trying to accuse us of violations of the Voting Rights Act, which would have been tantamount to criminal had they taken it that direction, would have threatened to shut us down entirely, and they lost big time.
00:18:32.320And from the instant that we announced the project, Elias sent letters to every single county in the state of Georgia telling them that if they considered our filings, that they would be sued.
00:18:45.600So first he put a chill out across the entire state against us.
00:18:49.780Then Abrams went on a press junket to CNN and MSNBC and anybody that would have her telling the world how awful we were for questioning the accuracy of voter rolls, trying to foment this anger.
00:19:03.900And that led to – and they did a great job.
00:19:07.360That led to all kinds of threats against the people that were involved in the project.
00:19:12.440And it went on for years and years and years, almost three years to the day.
00:19:19.140The amount of money that they put into this is breathtaking, millions, millions and millions of dollars to stop us.
00:19:27.300No, they're so well-resourced because they understand – just like in the redistricting fight, this is where the voter rolls, the mechanics of voting, the things that are under the radar that most people, because other media doesn't make it so important, kind of either lose interest or too confusing.
00:20:15.460What's your assessment, not just of Georgia?
00:20:17.300But when Catherine Engelbrecht looks out there over the voter roll fiasco throughout the rest of the country, where are we and how are we going to get this thing fixed before 2024?
00:20:25.980Well, the great – it's a big problem.
00:20:29.200But the great news is it can be fixed before 2024, although there is no time to waste.
00:20:36.300Voter rolls across the country are in a state of absolute chaos.
00:20:43.220And it's because for years we have allowed the process to erode.
00:20:46.780We have allowed the fraud to become institutionalized.
00:20:49.840In private industry, all day, every day, companies are resolving identity, residency, and citizenship in real time.
00:20:59.200But what we see in our voter rolls – and it's in large part due to the lawfare at the hands of someone like Mark Elias, who any time a state attempts to clean its rolls, gets sued.
00:21:09.620And that's where citizens come in, because when citizens petition – and in most states, there are provisions inside of state election codes that allow citizens to petition their respective counties where they are registered.
00:21:23.320They can bring ineligible records and start the process of evaluation.
00:21:27.900That is the way that we can get these rolls clean between now and 2024.
00:21:32.440And if they're not clean, then you have the opportunity to go to the court now preemptively and say that ineligible records or ineligible voters remain on the rolls, and therefore they may not be eligible to vote.
00:21:48.100And if they do vote, those elections can't be certified in the aftermath.
00:21:51.980So there's a lot of different bites at this apple.
00:21:54.220But what's most important is that we turn our focus on this very first essential element of, as you point out, the mechanics of elections, get the voter rolls clean.
00:22:04.420We're coming out with all kind of tools and supports to help citizens, but it is all hands on deck.
00:22:37.260I would submit to you that yes, we are.
00:22:39.120Now, there are other groups doing other things, and Mercy Knows True the Vote can't do it all.
00:22:43.880And I applaud anybody that is out in the trenches and trying to take this head on.
00:22:51.120But I will tell you that this is the first cycle True the Vote has ever been in a position to, at scale, take a look at the voter rolls and do what – there used to be a group called ERIC, still is in some states, that helps to ostensibly clean the rolls.
00:23:09.260It's a longer story for a different day.
00:23:11.460But there have been a great many states that have moved away from ERIC and are looking now for processes to manage their own rolls internally.
00:23:19.960Long and the short of it is citizens, and we're glad to help.
00:23:23.900We have built a project or built a model to take a closer look at those rolls.
00:23:28.860And, yeah, look, I'll say it here for you and all the posse.
00:24:35.000We just broke this out of Phoenix, Arizona.
00:24:37.540This is a secret migrant facility on video at 1211 East Apache Street.
00:24:44.380No one's really gone there with a camera and exposed this, and there's a video of the gentleman working there,
00:24:49.800whose name is Jesus Moreno, and his boss, a man named Thomas Robles, at this left-wing nonprofit organization called International Rescue Committee.
00:24:59.760Well, Jesus Moreno is on tape offering me a bribe to make me not record and film.
00:25:06.460We just broke this video online, and it's going viral, and Elon has responded to this.
00:25:11.880So a videotape of these employees and workers at the secret migrant facility in Phoenix, Arizona, which ships the migrants to the Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport on the hour, every hour.
00:25:26.040They were really upset about my presence.
00:25:42.700You're telling me in this budget what we're talking about, almost a half a billion dollars will go to this group to ship illegal aliens into the airports, into the airplanes, into the interior of the country?
00:25:54.340Yes, the tax return, the 990 Schedule B, it's in the video.
00:26:22.640And when I got there, these illegal immigrants, they're all called refugees.
00:26:27.740Every hour, there's a bus that departs this school and takes the people to the airport where they're covered in American Red Cross blanket.