WarRoom Battleground EP 446: Election Eve. Tomorrow Is The Future
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On today's show, Alex DeGrasse joins us from the Real American's Voice Studio in West Palm Beach, where he joins us to discuss why he thinks the Democrats are going to take the House of Representatives in 2020.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
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natalie winters co-host in the house for the battleground in the battleground the elite of
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the elite war room hours see natalie took originally when i went to prison natalie was natalie was a
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natalie took over uh battleground we gave to natalie and then after about two weeks her agent called
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and said hey look we love battleground but we think she can expand she'd like an earlier she wants to
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go up against nicole wallace in the five mano a mano she wants the five o'clock show and i think we did
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pretty well you did amazingly well first off it's a one hour of rants which i i like you know i had to
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grow into it but i i think you get darren beady up there and darren beady sits the entire time it
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was like tucker and uh it was like tucker and uh well you want to know ironically it was the save
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act that i think precipitated so much of it because i was looking around for some cavalry to come and
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help the show hold the line on it and i it was really hard to find guests so i watched that i watched
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that from prison and you and grace were were such valkyrize on the save act i couldn't even walk through
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the logic hey maybe we want to do this just you guys were no no no we don't do crs you guys and
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then we ended with rants where we were screaming about you know cuck chairs and all this stuff
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and here we are well here we are now the question is did the save act alex degross joins us from the
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real america's voice studios in west palm beach uh alex to the point about the save act and her rants
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and grace chung's mean tweets sabato larry sabato who at one time was their one of their most prominent
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pollsters he runs the center down at the university of virginia in charlottesville he's just broken
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something that's gone viral with the democrats that he's projecting contrary to alex degrasse in the
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war room that in fact the democrats are going to take the house by wait for it whatever i've been saying
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about jamie raskin one seat one seat 218 to 217 which means that jamie raskin would actually be
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able to thwart president trump decertified not certify the election and anybody doesn't believe
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me on that we are getting to pull tomorrow if you see the bill maher interview with raskin what they
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call the front of the show front of the house the opening interview takes it always takes about six to
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eight minutes bill maher and the audience are lathered up they want blood i mean raskin's trying to be
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rational and say yes i i refuse to quit if trump wins uh we're going to go to work every day we're
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going to thwart him i'm going to stop him the audience is going no they're they're kind of almost
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like booing they want they want details and bill maher sitting there going no that's not good enough
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what's the plan you got to be specific so degrasse we already know they're they're maniacally focused
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on taking the house because i think they realize harris is going to have a very difficult time
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beating trump they look at their second their their command by negation their second path here to
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power is to control the house of representatives your thoughts is is larry saboteau right or is
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alice degrasse right i think he's way off steve and what he does is he moves a majority of those
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toss-up seats into their category most recently he shifts marionette miller meeks which is in iowa
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he's basing it off of that out of control possibly i think maybe even criminal iowa demois register
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poll the seltzer poll that's getting a ton of action all of this including larry is a coordinated
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partisan effort to sort of spin people up juice momentum going into game day on their end you know
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we've never been in a position where democrats actually have to rely on more votes on election
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day despite the fact that polls steve continue to show that of the election day votes of people
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poll that say they're going to vote on election day we went overwhelmingly by about 12 to 13 percent
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across the board nationwide so based off that one poll where they don't even poll a scientific sample
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within her district he just says i'm going to move this over to lean democrat and that's how you get
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that shift now they have three districts flipping in new york i don't buy it here's what we're going to
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say in the beginning of early vote we came on the show we hammered hammer and hammered for new york
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it's a 10-day early vote two one full week work day and then one work week sorry and then the weekend
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so nine days new york republicans have shifted i'm just going to pull these numbers up because i just
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pulled them where the hell are they hold it first of all you're pulling what you're pulling that up give
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me the districts so these are across the entire united states of america from the start of early
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voting period and to the close of it the four of the top five districts that have trended
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in our direction are in new york the first being new jersey seven tom keen one of those toss-up seats
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25.8 percent so from the start of it to the end of it the margin between republican democrat
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change in our favor by one quarter all across new york then you go into new york 17 17 percent new
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york 18 which is an offensive pickup seat 13 percent new york 22 at syracuse utica seat with
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brandon williams 12 percent and new york four 11 percent where again that's the margin between
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democrats the republicans early vote in person cast from the start to end shifted in our direction so
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i mean i don't really see what their path is here in new york we're gaining gaining gaining we've never
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gotten more votes new york post tweet from an article that we put out because they rightfully
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covered my early vote briefing on behalf of the new york republicans 50 increase from 2022 across the
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board and all of the battleground seats for republican turnout including leading with the low propensity
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voters that we've been speaking to on the war room the democrats let it slip in politico the only
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mainstream media if we don't count the new york post that has covered their panic in fact their lead
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they said they're trying to show calm because certainly republicans are outperforming significantly
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so it's all game day larry's ratings i mean california they got us losing seats um oregon i mean some of
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these are tough of course steve and the point is that we need to definitely dig deep to flip to give
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us a buffer if we lose any of those toss-ups i think we'll win them all and like in 2020
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every single toss-up seat we won cook political pour across the board that would by the way get us
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over a 10-seat majority right now steve people forget i want to make sure everybody remembers because
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this is going to be very important about the situation in pennsylvania about what really happened
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in 2020 um stefanik and company you guys delivered was it in the in the popular vote for the house
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nationwide you were up five or six million votes in 22 five million
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five massive do um right now as we talked the other day and when you briefed the media before he came
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in war room you see the possibility on the low side of of what a five six seat pickup
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yeah i mean i i think we could maintain if we were to lose some of these seats in some of these very
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tough areas um worst case i think we're at where we're at you know three four or five seats um but i
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think if i'm betting on it i think six to eight is sort of a median hopefully we could push over 10 15
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which would be historic uh and would definitely give president trump the breathing room that he
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needs to enact the trump 47 agenda let's say you're six you're six to eight which you put what is the
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delta and what are the key districts to get to get to uh sabatoes 218 to 217 where they take it by one
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versus your we hold it by five or so yeah so merit what are the key what are the most controversial
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districts that we got to really focus on so merit miller meeks is one that he shipped and i spoke
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about that in the beginning i don't see that as a quote lean democrat that's a republican district
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the expectation frankly is that president trump will carry her across the finish line because of
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how well we expect president trump to do in iowa full stop despite all of this sort of noise i think
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losing three new york seats um i think that would be an issue of course that's what larry has i don't
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really see that happening of course these are tough seats that president biden won by double digits
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of course and they've thrown i mean 200 million dollars steve at this and that is why if we break
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them at new york i just spoke about four seats now we're increasing our margin right there just
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talking about four different seats on this mark on this you know differential of 15 that he breaks out
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you know i think also they have some of these trump it's part of the trump five right that's what we
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call it they have some of those in lean i don't see that uh in ohio nine a poll just came out from
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emerson with trump up 10 points there um that might be a little rosy but if it's not then there's no way
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she survives um at all so this is in ohio nine ohio 13 we feel good about you know any of these
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states where president trump is sort of running really well which includes new york ohio obviously
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alaska he does correctly have in the republican category but i would say the they have main two
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trump country where we think trump could win by double digits they have it in a lean democrat category so
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i think those iowa seat three new york two in ohio and in maine right off the bat we have sort of
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leaning our direction at a worst case sort of a flip of the coin so maybe one or two of them goes in that
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direction but not certainly all of them that would be considered a bad night so that's why you know i
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think what go ahead no no no you keep continuing so you know i i think some of these are a little bit
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of a reach but they they sort of have you know pennsylvania seven i mean if president trump doesn't
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win pennsylvania seven or we don't flip it i think we're in a tough position in pennsylvania and that's
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that's the lehigh valley we're very focused on them the numbers look very good there so
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it's sort of the concomination of all this trending in their direction i don't see that i think this is
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really part of what i believe is a coordinated game i've heard from people that that iowa paul larry
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stuff this has all been in the democrat ecosystem before it's coming out into the public as part of
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a propaganda operation talk to me i want to i want to get this uh audience to be smart you're saying
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this is a coordinated infra war information war uh seltzer's uh the iowa des moines register poll
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that had trump i don't know losing losing right in a shock poll the things like sabatoes is the same
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exact thing this is part of the information war campaign to depress people to get people worried
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100 information warfare twofold to give them that they think they have a shot because the biggest
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impediment on their side is that people don't have much faith in harris and they think they're
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going to lose i mean look as a new york republican steve uh we have a lot of friends on the other side
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of the aisle you know somewhat honest people what we deal with them and most of them don't think harris
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has a shot and so all of this is sort of noise that's the numbers that they see they're not
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optimistic on new york um they certainly think they can maybe flip one or two but part of their
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strategy was to shift away from new york into iowa double up on california go into michigan go to
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wisconsin some of these other soft underbelly areas where i think we hold them in all of those as well
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and they sort of actually had hedged on new york which had actually been reported in the last month so
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um they're not that optimistic all of this is to kind of get their hopes up
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um so it's to help them we are going to have you on our coverage we understand your primary job is to
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kind of coordinate everything that's going on tomorrow night for the house as part of stefanik's
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team but just give me a heads up when do you think we'll start to know the direction
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of the house obviously there's all different districts but these things tend to move as a piece
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when do you think we'll start to know the the movement in the house because it's
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absolutely critical this is why sabato put it out with one vote they understand the psychological
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warfare of this of controlling the house and there as you've seen the money they've spent
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over the last couple weeks it's just mind-boggling and quite frankly we we kind of ran out of cash
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what time tomorrow night do you see do you see us being able to see where the trends are
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i i think the first race to really look at is virginia seven uh virginia reports early if we win
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there it's going to be a great night i mean it's going to be impossibly republican red wave territory
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certainly a pickup night that's the derrick anderson running into spanberger open seat against vindman
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virginia reports early and they're quick at counting their ballots and so look at that as sort of a
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bellwether seat um certainly if that's a 50 50 toss-up we've been tied in all the polls it's going to be
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who wants it more as you see the speaker and house leadership have been pouring in there they just did a
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rally with yunkin i think new york at around 10 11 o'clock you'll start seeing so i think the house
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might be a little earlier than the presidency just at some of the counting at least sort of the broad
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trends now if the seats are closed steve as we've seen before this thing's going to drag weeks weeks
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weeks bouts bouts bouts bouts counting lawyers fights you know poll watchers california new york
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both issues with that of course as well as some of the other states arizona
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perfect uh your social media where do people get you you'll be back with us tomorrow but
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where do people get you overnight because this is a the all-important house of representatives
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and we only hold it by a couple larry sabatoe the university of virginia just called for us
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losing the house and hakeem jefferson's becoming the speaker by one seat so this is going to be close
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no matter what uh the vindman situation is one that obviously irks many of the people in the trump
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movement because he's the twin brother of the other scumbag vindman brother the other scumbag ukrainian
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vindman brother i think that so you could get me at the grass 81 on x at the grass on getter truth
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but i just want to say steve everyone needs to put their evening aside text everyone forget the list at
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this point just maniacally text call door knock everyone you know anywhere in the country and
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just get that done and tonight is the key i mean this is when operatives key up the robos and the
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lab and the techs i mean this is the most important time if not more important than first thing tomorrow
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morning so you hit it now and you hit it in the morning and we keep going because arvo comes either
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early in the morning or after work so those are the two flux flex points for us on our side early in the
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morning 6 30 through 9 and then 5 to 7 big time for republicans push at those hours double effort
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push hard alex degross thank you very much honored to have you on here thanks steve
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we'll go to arizona and carrie lake joins us carrie you're not you're not i take it you're not to
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prescott yet not there i'm not in my home office i am on our bus we've been on a bus tour for months now
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and we are somewhere between phoenix and prescott we've about an hour outside of prescott uh traveling
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you know what i brought my dog i decided we're not leaving her home one more day
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so we brought the pug with us we've got the team right behind us say hi to caroline wren and lisa
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and colton say hi to jt our incredible bus driver hey jt uh steve we are um about to wrap up what has been
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an incredible campaign we're heading to prescott to the historic steps of the yavapai county capital
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of course that's where arizona's favorite son barry goldwater announced his run for presidency
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before i was born and we're going to make history tonight with our final
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rally before election day here in arizona and i want everybody in the posse to get their number two
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pencil out it better be sharpened because i'm going to have some numbers to give you in about
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one second so get the pencil ready but we got some great news today our early voting
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for republicans has been nothing short of historic i believe the numbers that came out today show we
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have about a 204 000 vote advantage over the democrats as we go into tomorrow election we've never seen
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that i i can't remember the last time we've seen those kind of numbers it's absolutely huge and the
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good news is we've looked at all of the data and we still have a lot of our four by four voters those
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are the ones who never ever ever miss a an election and so we still have a huge number that are going to
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turn out tomorrow we need to make sure we turn out that vote we have a voting center um you know
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way of voting right now even though i don't love it this is how we have it and that means you can go
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to any voting center so my suggestion is if you work in some liberal part of town you show up at
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the voting center in a liberal part of town you're going to be in and out in no time if you show up
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tomorrow morning 6 a.m is when the polls open and you get there and the lines are really really long
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and you have time hop in your car and go find a voting center in a more liberal part of town where
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you don't have to wait so long we need to make sure we are getting out early to vote why would
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i tell you to get up early and vote at 6 or 7 or 8 a.m because that way if you get there and there
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are long lines you have the ability to change up and find another spot to go and vote now this is where
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you're going to need your number two pencil steve i want you to write down a few numbers 602 480
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928 and 520 and 623 those are all of the area codes that are in this beautiful state 48 arizona
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and i want everybody around the country whether you're in ohio new york california idaho
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florida texas or here in arizona to go through your phone and just and put those three each of
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those three numbers in and any phone number that comes up that you know in arizona send out a text
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message and remind your friends or your contacts to go out and vote tomorrow this is the most important
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day in the history of our country steve we've we've been put through hell over the past four years and
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thank god for you to help us get through it this country has been put through a living hell for the
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last four years and tomorrow is the day we get to decide the fate of this nation and i i think we're
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going to go save our country based on the early voting based on the sentiment i'm seeing on the ground
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the people are going to show up and and thanks in large part see bannon to you
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hang on one second this because this is the pause the numbers are nine two eight
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another number that's what these are the area numbers area codes the other number is six two
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three the other number six zero two and the other is four eight zero in fact i got a lot of these in
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in my phone those are the five area codes yeah five two five two so it's nine two eight is the first
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one five two is the second six two three is the third six zero two is the fourth and four eight zero
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is the fifth if you know people in those area codes make sure you read now carrie last time
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we were we were doing a lock on game day on election day there was one fiasco after the other
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with all the brilliant guys down all the brilliant republicans running maricopa county
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do is your team set up like a strike force for tomorrow because i anticipate even with all the
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massive early voting you have to assume that because it's donald trump and carrie lake they don't want
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that we have to assume they don't want things to go well they want all these mess ups you know the
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ballots are too wide the machines don't work uh people don't know where to go what have you
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guys done to get ahead of what the problems are going to be tomorrow well first and foremost one
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of the things we proved is they didn't do any logic and accuracy testing on any of the equipment that
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they rolled out which was against the law this go around we made them do logic and accuracy testing on
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all of the equipment so we've got equipment that's been tested which is good and then this time around
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you know we we got in on the early voting you know because of what had happened in 2020 arizonans
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were not trustworthy they didn't trust the elections they showed up on election day and
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we got burned on election day when 60 percent of the machines didn't work oh surprise surprise in
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republican areas this is why it's important tomorrow if you've got time on your hands pinpoint an area
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in maricopa county uh whether it be in central phoenix in one of the more liberal parts of town where
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you can go vote if you live in a very republican area you might want to take some of the pressure off
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your republican voting center by going to a liberal part of town and voting there let's spread it out
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and make sure that we've got time to fill out this ballot it's very very long it's a four-page ballot
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and you know i think we we showed how they were doing it we we proved how they were messing around
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with elections and so we're kind of we kind of put them on the spot and i think they're going to have
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a harder time and this is why we wanted people to vote early but we still have to stay in line do not
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get out of line i always say listen if you're willing to camp out overnight to go see a trump
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rally then be willing to camp out all day to vote for our country and i i believe steve that we're
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going to win this election and i believe we're going to get to work quickly and turning our country
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around but it's all hands on deck right now um let's see what time is it in arizona somebody tell
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me what time is it is it other we still have a half an hour of voting open today it's emergency voting so
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if you can get to a vote center quickly in the next half hour in arizona run off to a vote center
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if you've got an issue where you don't think you can wait in line tomorrow then you can go vote today
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at a voting center across town we have a half an hour left otherwise get up early and put your comfy
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shoes on bring some water and a couple of snacks and be ready to meet some incredible patriots while you
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stand in line and let's vote and save our country one more time is there a hotline or can caroline
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renner we get a hot hot line from her later tomorrow because we know it's gonna bannon's calling for
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caroline ren to step up we're going to bring her up she's on the bus steve i'm calling i'm calling i'm
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calling for her to do some work because she's blowing me up on my phone that uh that i took too long
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with my last guest she's just she's she's getting very snarky well you know on the off chance the
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listeners wanted to see carrie and not hear about arizona seven i just thought steve
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i'm i'm leaning into her because i have the microphone on i love it hold it hey carrie lake
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starts running for the senate all the sudden everything in the house is like grundoons okay i got it
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i got it i understand how it's rolling out there just all i wish you were here tonight i wish you were
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here tonight with us by the way because you were here about a year ago oh and you know what i gotta
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tell you we're we're in the most beautiful part of the state it's gorgeous we have so many buses and
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trucks and cars jeff's gonna flip the camera around look at this we're heading up the i-17 steve and uh
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we're heading up on the plateau here we get so many thumbs up and um you know people are honking their
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horns every kind of car from trucks to 18 wheelers to evs you name it this whole state is in love
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with the america first movement and it's it's been fried and i want to i want to reach out directly to
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the posse right now because in many of the difficult times i want to tell you i've appreciated all of
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you reaching out to me i can't even tell you how many of posse members are that reach out to me and
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encourage me thank you you are family to me and we're going to do this and we're going to take our
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carrie one more time where do they go for any information tonight where they have to go tomorrow
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we want everybody on point in arizona throughout the country to support you it's big day we cannot
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let slip away like last time we have to close the deal tomorrow not just for trump but for carrie lake in
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arizona for you we're going to close the deal for you america go to carrie lake.com we love you we
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love the war room posse steve we love you and we're going to win this and we're going to save our country
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god bless each and every one of you if there's an issue you go to arizona dot protect the vote dot com
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arizona dot protect the vote dot com if you see anything suspicious or off tomorrow arizona dot
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protect the vote dot com we love you steve love you too ma'am caroline get back to work
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quit blowing my phone up over the new york house races carrie lake caroline wren on the bus
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heading into prescott the territorial capital of arizona tradition that republican candidates
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finish i'm going to talk to charlie kirk what we're trying to do is we're going to try to um
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i'll talk to rob say that we would love to live stream from prescott from that magnificent
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and you really i think they built in like 1880 or something ministered the vision of these people
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so if i can ask my crack production team what i'd like to do is talk to parker and rob and i want to
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figure out and eli if they're going to stream because this thing in prescott's always incredibly
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impressive if they're going to stream carry lake and then we could roll right into grand rapids that
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would be a that would be a banger evening carry lakes last thing in in in arizona and then go right
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to trump's the last hoorah there and um in uh michigan very historic tonight i think charlie kirk's
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going to do it but charlie i think's in prescott i think charlie's speaking with eli crane to get all
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the arizona crowd out there charlie kirk eli crane i think any biggs is there of course obviously
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our own caroline wren and other people so we'll work out the logistics for the war room audience
00:31:48.900
just follow grace and mo jane zirkle they're going to be putting up information about
00:31:54.500
what program is going to go on tonight on rv we're obviously going to be back here at 10 o'clock
00:31:58.420
tomorrow morning so 10 to noon we're gonna do the show from here i believe we start the coverage i think
00:32:05.620
the five o'clock show will be from um will be from the willard hotel right across the street from
00:32:11.540
the treasury department you're telling all the protesters where to come they can go come on bring
00:32:15.860
it baby i like taking pictures with them outside i you gotta be very careful um speaking of
00:32:22.260
protesters yes we've already got the the apparatus the the the deep state that's not so deep because
00:32:28.420
it's in your grill they're totally prepped for this right we won in 16 because they didn't see us
00:32:33.460
coming and they took us as a bunch of clowns these guys are not serious that's not 2024 they knew what
00:32:39.140
they had to do in 2020 to steal this they got to try something else but they are more dug in than ever
00:32:45.540
on trump's not going to win this we're going to thwart this in any means possible the floor is yours
00:32:50.980
natalie winters well you see it with the deep state avengers sort of assembling i think it started the
00:32:56.340
shot across the bow was of course the liz cheney the dick cheney endorsement and just sort of the
00:33:00.500
theatrics of it like i always said i think the fact that you're seeing the military be used as an
00:33:05.460
institution to really buttress the narrative that president trump is a fascist is you know hitler
00:33:10.900
like i always say it's not that he wanted hitler's generals it's that he wanted his own generals right
00:33:15.620
that's really the cardinal sin which goes back to frankly why you started this show right the idea
00:33:20.740
that your foreign policy could deviate from the washington consensus so when i started to see all that
00:33:27.060
come together and then you see the intel community of course the same weaponized intel community that
00:33:31.860
said the hunter biden hard drive was russian disinformation they then started popping up with
00:33:37.540
sort of a similar resurgence which again you know we're all about pattern recognition here in the war
00:33:42.340
room where they would sort of spot and identify these one-off videos of so-called election fraud
00:33:49.220
and attribute it to just that russian disinformation it started in pennsylvania just recently it was in
00:33:54.340
georgia and it was a video of i believe haitian refugees voting multiple times where they're like
00:33:59.540
how can we i thought it was haitian refugees eating a dog's leg come on eating a dog's leg
00:34:03.700
in line to vote for the third time a cat leg in line to vote for the third time and a few dead people
00:34:08.500
for good measure yeah um but it's very interesting because this video for example only amassed about
00:34:14.820
you're telling me that was not true that this is a this is a meme well look i wouldn't put it past
00:34:20.340
them no but but from their perspective they said it was fake and a lot of this foreign disinformation
00:34:26.500
stuff you can tell right off the bat i've always said this idea of russian collusion i think is an
00:34:30.820
insult to the intelligence because it's so amateur hour so it's so like it's so obvious and also like
00:34:35.700
a video like that would sway people's you know convictions uh this audience is a little more dedicated
00:34:41.060
than that um but this video only amassed a few thousand retweets right in contrast the fbi cissa and
00:34:48.260
the entire office of the director of national intelligence put out a joint press release in
00:34:52.180
addition to the secretary of state's office of brad raffensperger acting like it was a five alarm
00:34:56.900
fire like russian disinformation joint press release about this saying that this is just destroying
00:35:01.700
democracy right now keep in mind just a month ago there was a huge profile piece in politico saying
00:35:06.820
that the ukrainian national anthem had been found on voter rolls on voter logs and that they had been
00:35:11.940
outsourcing to foreign contractors a lot of this voter roll work so it's just interesting right how they pick
00:35:17.300
and choose what stories of foreign disinformation or foreign election interference that they want to
00:35:21.700
engage in i think the glowing example of this would be the idea of non-citizens voting right they won't
00:35:26.660
entertain that don't bury the lead you're telling me when they actually get around to you force
00:35:31.060
them to clean up the voter rolls they're subcontracting that out to foreign entities yeah that was the
00:35:36.820
buried lead of the politico piece the catchy headline they went with was the ukrainian national anthem being
00:35:41.300
embedded um within these election systems but what you start to see and i think it's what we really
00:35:46.580
spent the last you know four months of coverage doing is trying to get ahead of these narratives
00:35:50.820
and call them out sort of at face value particularly on the non-citizen front um like i said you just
00:35:56.740
saw a new report coming from norm eisen saying that anyone who spreads those conspiracy theories much
00:36:01.300
like those who dared to say covet originated from the wuhan institute of virology were crazy conspiracy
00:36:06.340
theorists it was the buried lead in jack smith's 165 page filing and remember the brennan center which is
00:36:12.420
the same group that was behind a lot of the efforts to pull trump from the ballot they're sort of the
00:36:16.500
go-to resource in saying that hey non-citizen voting claims they're totally crazy in other words it's
00:36:22.180
all about trying to set up sort of an information firewall to say that when you raise valid claims
00:36:28.660
about non-citizens voting when you raise valid claims about ballots being destroyed which is what
00:36:33.620
was depicted in these videos that you're not actually an american patriot who's concerned about election
00:36:38.740
integrity but no no no you're an agent of foreign disinformation and i think if you broaden out
00:36:43.140
that critique you've really just seen a criminalization of the ability to go in and
00:36:48.180
inspect election results you see it from the efforts to try to keep republican poll watchers out there was
00:36:52.900
a huge meltdown piece and reuters just like last week saying that republican you know poll watchers are
00:36:58.340
going to wreak havoc and chaos and frankly it's the broader narrative which i reject at face value which is
00:37:03.780
that maga is violent that election day is going to turn violent when in reality i if it does i don't
00:37:10.580
necessarily think it's going to come from the maga side we always color within the lines so all of
00:37:15.700
that converges i think to put them in a position where they can sort of dispel any claims of election
00:37:22.820
fraud as not genuine as not organic and then i think you compound that with like we were just talking
00:37:28.420
about the chyron that's an msnbc saying like i'm sure you felt it steve when you were at your press
00:37:33.540
conference they had the stories written they had the headlines written they wanted it to be steve
00:37:39.220
bannon and trump are going to declare victory on election night right you could tell they were
00:37:43.060
trying to get that narrative now why did they want that because now even if he wins in a blowout victory
00:37:48.740
on election night they will still they have already embedded and sort of woven in an insurance policy
00:37:54.260
of an additional 12 to 24 hours where they can say oh well his claim to victory is not legitimate
00:37:59.780
and then you have the mark elias's come in and then you have the overseas ballots i'm sure you know
00:38:03.700
eventually come in over uh late at night or you see ballots being accepted in a lot of states even
00:38:08.740
postmarked after election day so i think all of this i mean you know i consume the news algorithmically
00:38:14.420
in sort of a weird utilitarian way but when you see for example npr today putting up a story saying
00:38:20.020
and i quote the voter rolls are imperfect and they go sort of this what i call a limited hangout type
00:38:26.340
story where they're like well there's always going to be errors with voter rolls it's almost like
00:38:30.580
they're priming us to say well a few non-citizens you know slipped through the cracks in the same way
00:38:35.700
that martha raddatz sits up there telling jd vance well you just have to be okay right with a handful of
00:38:41.060
venezuelan gangs taking over the united states now would they be okay with a handful of russians living in
00:38:46.100
ukrainian territory no obviously not but when you loop all that together again i feel like i feel
00:38:52.420
like i get the uh the top end of the deal where it's like pavlov's dog anytime i'm on it's like
00:38:56.900
color revolution scary talk but you know as much as these polls are important i i wish we operated in
00:39:02.660
a reality where the reason scary talk this is what it's real talk it shocks me so much they're doing this
00:39:09.860
in broad daylight i mean they're not they're they're they're trying to do it so complicated you can't
00:39:13.620
understand it but they're pretty brazen about what they're trying to accomplish here do you agree
00:39:19.300
well of course i think the the darkest part of it is the dark money right the funding who exactly
00:39:24.100
is supporting all these people um but no they're they're quite open about it and i think it's because
00:39:29.060
they they couch it behind the idea of you know we're defending democracy but in that sort of narrative
00:39:34.580
of defending democracy like i said they've essentially criminalized the idea of objecting to elections
00:39:40.740
which is something more or less that they pioneered right so it's now a very touchy subject to even
00:39:46.660
suggest that election results have been flipped and by the way you have to also juxtapose this with
00:39:51.860
what's going on globally because in the same day that you see you know the georgia election officials
00:39:56.580
melting down over foreign disinformation joe biden is calling for audits of election results over in the
00:40:02.260
country of georgia in the same day that the state department is putting out press releases demanding
00:40:08.020
that citizens in ghana who dare to quote undermine democracy will have their united states visas
00:40:14.260
stripped from them so they'll play asymmetrical warfare and i think for so long whether it was
00:40:18.900
you know the rnc consent decree or just i think honestly that's sort of a cop-out total cop-out they
00:40:24.100
they use that crutch it's the fact that they're controlled opposition that they they they loved it
00:40:28.660
the consent decree was like just to cover for them they probably they agreed to they consented to it
00:40:33.220
right but and then look even when you were in prison there was a really i think stunning piece
00:40:38.100
in politico um i believe it was jonathan martin talking and the headline was essentially the
00:40:43.540
republicans who want trump to lose and you know all these you know members of congress are busy talking
00:40:48.820
off the record with mainstream media reporters about how they think it would be easier for them if trump
00:40:53.140
lost and they want to take the republican party in a direction that you obviously know is is super deviant
00:40:58.980
to anything that you've pushed for um but that is what what we're up against right it's not just
00:41:04.420
just the democrats frankly it's not even just a domestic problem um you you even see there was
00:41:09.620
an article i think it was in the guardian um someone saying that oh well even if you know president trump
00:41:14.420
wins i don't really think anything's going to change at nato it was a i believe an admiral in
00:41:18.980
the navy saying yeah we're still going to keep you know levels of support where they are yeah right and
00:41:24.340
that's the permanent political class doing what they do best which is clinging on to the status quo
00:41:29.300
and i think the final point too that i would make is that take the issue of ukraine for example they're
00:41:35.300
not necessarily just scared of the gravy train that is ukraine the largest money laundering operation
00:41:40.020
drying up right they're scared of the impending audits that's what they want to prevent right they can
00:41:45.700
find another crisis to milk what they don't want and i think that's the fundamental difference between our
00:41:50.660
version of the republican party and the old guard is that we actually define accountability
00:41:55.540
as you know investigations prison sentences um serious prison sentences at that and they define
00:42:01.860
accountability as a strongly worded tweet or a nice segment on fox i want to go to this other story
00:42:08.980
that broke because this adds a whole even darker layer to it and that was you you helped break it but um
00:42:16.500
jeff clark has now gone to the document that was released talk to me about this mike's my my head
00:42:22.260
blow up the ability of military intelligence and this whole thing of william arkham is a pretty is a
00:42:27.780
progressive um writer but he's talking about a 60 000 man army 30 000 man army in uh in uh in the
00:42:36.820
pentagon or associated with military intelligence that is basically there to according to clark can you look
00:42:43.220
at this directive actually potentially use lethal force against u.s citizens i think they've been
00:42:49.620
doing that for a while hot take um no so the the genesis of this story borum has always been ahead of the
00:42:56.180
curve but i think to just contextualize this they were freaking look let me rephrase when i first broke the
00:43:01.380
story i was much like you i was like there's no way this is true like this is this is an oversight this is
00:43:06.500
why like you can't it's so brazen and i sort of you know stopped pushing it because i was like
00:43:12.260
it's just so absurd but then i saw the university of washington which headed essentially cissa's
00:43:17.620
election censorship efforts under a gal named kate starbird despite them now missing a lot of funding
00:43:23.460
thanks in parts of efforts of people like mike benz darren beattie this show but they put out a long
00:43:27.860
form report on the story saying that this directive was they say misinformation but then if you actually
00:43:34.180
read the story like there's no available evidence to fact check it and they did a whole long report
00:43:39.220
and then it was disseminated to the rest of the fact checkers in the mainstream media so i was like
00:43:42.740
they're getting their marching orders from cissa and it's now being spread out through the mainstream
00:43:46.180
media so we're definitely over the target here and there's the part that jeff clark had honed in on
00:43:50.580
which has to do with using lethal force against american citizens but there's also in that same
00:43:55.140
directive in that same time period revising it i believe it was late september of this year but also
00:44:00.420
i think it was november 7th of 2016 um where they reworked their descriptions of assassinations
00:44:07.620
they took out the the uh what is the predicate the preceding clause that was under any circumstance
00:44:14.740
and then they essentially took out dod operative saying that dod operatives could therefore by you
00:44:21.140
know if you do the analytical math commit assassination which is such an absurd thing to say um but again like
00:44:27.940
i said in my opening you know kind of response to your question though it seems far-fetched at face
00:44:33.620
value right much in the same way that when you hear the stories of you know peanut the squirrel it
00:44:37.460
seems so outlandish it's like well this is also the same government that has trafficked and lost
00:44:41.220
hundreds of thousands of children right and there's been outrage there and this is the same government
00:44:46.180
whether it was through the ni the nih or darp or any of these programs has been funding actual bio
00:44:51.220
warfare with our sworn enemy the chinese communist party for decades so i think maybe they're being a
00:44:55.860
little more direct to your face in the same way that people like liz cheney and adam kinzinger who
00:45:00.340
have been subverting trump behind the scenes for a heck of a long time now they at least have the
00:45:04.500
courage to say it to your face um but i think that this directive some something is rotten that's how
00:45:11.780
i would put it at the dod and i think that this was sort of a saying the quiet part out loud moment
00:45:16.660
if you look at uh i think it's henry olson's analysis in the new york post today he talks about how
00:45:21.700
trump squeaks through and it gets out i shouldn't say they're all tight but he ends up with 297 electoral
00:45:27.780
votes and wins tomorrow in this he does his analysis off of you know how many first how many democrats
00:45:34.580
support uh terrorists how many he uses a 94 six as far as republicans that support trump i do know from
00:45:44.340
the democrats they're banking on when we talk about these pre-banked republican numbers they're banking
00:45:51.140
on a portion of that being liz cheney followers or some of nikki haley's crowd that really is the
00:45:59.220
difference between that's how trump loses do you think that's getting any resonance because uh the the
00:46:06.820
neocon neoliberal aspect of this the american empire or do you think because if you look at some of the
00:46:13.780
early votings and you look at least the polling people are saying hey 94 to six it's not popping
00:46:19.460
up you would think it'd be 85 15 which would be a game changer that delta between the six and the 15
00:46:25.380
that nine percentage points would translate to a meaningful number in some of these states that
00:46:30.900
could spell very difficult times for us tomorrow do you believe that actually that cheney and even nikki
00:46:38.260
haley because she's not really her heart's not in this particularly for like 20 of her followers
00:46:42.500
do you believe that all of this that uh you know some of this over the top support of the american
00:46:49.860
empire is really built into a negative trump or anti-trump from previous conservatives that will
00:46:55.140
vote against him well i think so much of this is the concept of the permission structure which is what
00:46:59.380
msnbc has dedicated months of airtime to and it's what really is that that january 6th that democracy
00:47:04.740
narrative comes down to and look i can't get in the mind of you know someone who would would support that so i
00:47:10.580
think the almost more interesting question is if their efforts to court the liz cheney types of the
00:47:17.060
world is offset by the people of their base that they turn off and or offend or the time that they're
00:47:22.900
pulled off from not being able to go after say the muslim vote right or the arab vote like we're seeing
00:47:27.700
go for for trump but i i don't really get the sense that the democracy stuff is breaking through i guess
00:47:33.380
the counterpoint to that would be that they kind of ditched the whole joy narrative and then they
00:47:37.780
reintroduced the democracy and the freedom stuff um but that might just be more of a symptom of the
00:47:43.460
fact that the joy narrative was sort of a stillbirth right from the get-go um but is the democracy part
00:47:49.140
what they're going to use to combat us and fight us after we win because they're just not going to
00:47:53.380
give this up i mean you know your your research in this you know this crowd better than virtually
00:47:58.740
anybody in this town which is kind of what surprises me because i got so many relatives and other friends
00:48:03.940
saying you can't broadcast from dc tomorrow you've got to go to florida because if you start doing
00:48:09.620
your your stick like here in the front page of new york times they're going to come maria bowser and
00:48:14.020
the national guard are going to come and roll you guys up do you think they're using that as a cover
00:48:19.060
for their later uh fight with trump yeah i think you're going to see the rollout of what they call
00:48:25.140
a civil society i would say rather uncivil society but look i think you see this right in the new
00:48:30.100
york times the way they laid it out um the authors of how democracies die right their big you know
00:48:35.300
kind of magnum opus which was essentially first you try to kick them off the ballot well that didn't
00:48:39.380
work then you try to get the inherent political structure the rnc to say he can't run that didn't
00:48:43.780
work then you say oh we're going to have a convergence of the liz cheneys you know into
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the republican party try to peel them off with the democracy stuff that doesn't work then fourth you're
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left with civil society so they're definitely going to weaponize the kind of shock troop protesters but
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i don't really see how that has much of an impact i think lawfare is much more powerful in the same
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way that you've seen that's how they've gone after trump right these last few years so i really think
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it's going to come down in those count rooms in those ballot rooms really ballot by ballot in the
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same way that kamala harris and what was it 2010 you know election night she was down and then ended up
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with a 30 000 ballot lead and i think too that people forget this yeah and this is the fight that i think
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this audience has always wanted right you are president trump's best and only surrogate right
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kamala harris has everything in the dark money apparatus liz cheney adam kensinger you are mono
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a mono with the people that you detest most so tomorrow when you're stuck in that ballot line
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or the line to vote and they're pulling shenanigans every hour think about that as a year that they
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try to destroy president trump's life so you got nine nine hours is how much you have to wait right
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you're so lucky that tomorrow is the only day that you've ever had to actually give a middle
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finger to the deep state and say your demoralization isn't going to work you've said it so well by the
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way billy strings is going to take us out here with uh man comes around his cover um this is the fight
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we always wanted right we've worked for years for this we're perfectly positioned everybody we were
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never supposed to be here never supposed to be here and and and the warwick posse has delivered the
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new architecture of the electorate through the scott pressers of the world and the voter registrations
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and everybody turned out to vote their vote did not turn out particularly i think they gave you the
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cover in your press conference to be able to stand up there and rest on the laurels of the early vote
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numbers so give president trump that same ability to rest on the actual election day vote numbers when
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he has his press conference tomorrow at 11 or 12 whenever it is do your part oh 11 o'clock when he comes
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that claims victory natalie you're giving him the memo okay uh we're our own transition integrity
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project how about that your social media you're here in dc with us you'll be here tomorrow and
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