Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 448： Countdown To Taiwan Election

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:14.840 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:22.580 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:28.360 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:33.440 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:37.200 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:44.320 stephen k bannon war room battleground it's natalie g winters taking over i guess now the second hour

00:00:53.540 of the war room on today wednesday january 10th i don't know how steve does it for four hours a day

00:00:59.560 six days a week but i'm honored to work with someone who has the strength and capacity to do that i know

00:01:05.760 you guys love him and miss him too but don't go anywhere because we have a very packed show focusing

00:01:10.780 primarily on the upcoming taiwanese elections but through the lens of how that impacts the united

00:01:16.280 states and as bradley thayer has so brilliantly i think pointed out how they're really using what

00:01:22.780 is going on in taiwan the election there is sort of a trial run for chinese communist party influence

00:01:27.900 here in the united states so without further ado i thought it would be probably fitting to bring in

00:01:34.320 some real experts on the subject matter and that is of course the chinese communist party's mortal 1.00

00:01:38.840 enemy enemy number one is the new federal state of china and nicole who we love so much from the nfsc

00:01:45.920 to come on and sort of walk us through ahead of these elections what we should be on the lookout for now i know

00:01:52.120 there's been a lot of reporting on fighter jet intimidation campaigns and balloons being flown

00:01:57.860 we obviously have our own experience with chinese spy balloons here in the united states but if you

00:02:02.440 want to walk the audience through what this military intimidation is looking like in taiwan

00:02:06.260 i'm sure they'd appreciate it well thank you so much for having me on it's so great to be with you

00:02:12.560 so yes the taiwan presidential election is only two days away and this is a very pivotal

00:02:17.660 presidential election because taiwan is in a very important note in the indo-pacific region that

00:02:26.720 matters most to the u.s national interest if we lose taiwan like how hong kong is lost to the ccp 0.98

00:02:33.400 then we lose the entire indo-pacific u.s national security in that region so taiwan's bat is very

00:02:41.840 important battleground and so it matters a lot not only because taiwan is silicon valley number two i

00:02:49.440 mean it provides our vital you know chips for our industry in this country but also taiwan is the most

00:02:57.280 vibrant democracy in that region i mean this year more than 19.5 million taiwanese people have registered

00:03:05.660 to vote and in the last taiwanese um u.s uh presidential election the turnout is 75 compared

00:03:13.740 with our u.s election in 2020 turnout only at 66 percent so that's why the ccp has been you know doing 1.00

00:03:23.100 the saber rattling economic coercion and trying to influence the outcome of this taiwan election

00:03:29.900 they definitely want the pro-beijing parties uh to succeed and that is the kmt kuomintang and the tpp

00:03:37.980 the you know which is a smaller but also uh pro-beijing party and the leading candidate willem lai or

00:03:45.500 lai chingde from the dpp uh has been leading the poll all the way and he's most detested by the ccp 1.00

00:03:53.420 so it would be very interesting to watch how how this election is going to turn out but definitely

00:03:59.580 the ccp uh has not spared any effort um to to uh with the election uh interference you well know with 0.97

00:04:09.180 the ccp's you know three warfares doctrine that lawfare is a key component of that and your movement has 0.91

00:04:15.500 faced that head on um but i'm i'm just curious to the alternative ways sort of the unrestricted

00:04:22.540 warfare approach to how the chinese communist party is coming after taiwan particularly on on

00:04:28.780 the economic front um i know you were explaining to me how they're banning taiwanese imports sort

00:04:34.220 of going after them from a financial and lawfare perspective could you sort of talk about that but

00:04:40.540 also how you think that this could potentially be used against the united states or other countries

00:04:45.580 sort of as a dry run for a more global application of this absolutely great question you know

00:04:53.180 interestingly uh communist china is taiwan's largest trading partner it is also the most

00:05:00.380 existential threat to taiwan's national security and the last uh taiwanese president ma ying jo from the kmt

00:05:09.260 while he was in the um in uh um as the taiwanese president he deepened taiwan's economic ties

00:05:18.860 with the communist china so that's why uh you know taiwan's economy is wholly dependent on the ccp so 0.97

00:05:28.140 so this is the reason why that we have been urging the us to decouple from the ccp because if we're placing 0.96

00:05:35.500 our essential um you know supply chain and pharmaceutical and many important industries

00:05:43.020 in in the hands of the ccp then they can use the economic coercion try to influence our political 1.00

00:05:50.300 uh position and that's exactly what the ccp is doing to taiwan for example just two weeks ago um the ccp 0.93

00:05:58.140 the ccp announced the cuts of the tariff um you know um the the trade tariffs on taiwan's chemical

00:06:07.180 products and a couple of years ago we know that the ccp banned the taiwanese pineapple and other food and

00:06:15.260 agricultural product but they're only targeting the counties and uh businesses that are pro the dpp

00:06:22.780 dpp so for example if you are uh you know a county within taiwan that supports the dpp or have been

00:06:31.660 showing strong support uh for for the dpp then any products agricultural products coming from this

00:06:39.260 county will be banned or face uh terrorists high tariffs uh in beijing and but if you are pro ccp 0.82

00:06:46.860 then from that you know any agricultural product from that region will you know what will not have

00:06:53.740 to face the punitive trade policies and that's a message that beijing is trying to send to the

00:06:59.740 taiwanese voters that uh if you are friendlier to beijing then you will have economic prosperity if you

00:07:08.540 are not friendlier with the ccp then you will face punishment and so that's exactly that we see very 1.00

00:07:15.580 similar things uh happening uh to the u.s and that's why so many wall street companies and corporate

00:07:22.940 americas they've been kowtowing to ccp for the exact same reason and people remember john cena and houston

00:07:30.380 rockets and jamie diamond and ridalio from um you know from the uh bridgewater these people have been

00:07:38.780 you know publicly apologizing to beijing uh for either supporting the hong kong protesters or saying

00:07:46.620 that taiwan is an independent nation or saying that something you know something critical of the ccp 0.99

00:07:53.420 so everything that you know happens to taiwan that we can see some similarities here in the united states

00:08:02.940 now nicole you know a lot of my reporting is focused on chinese communist party infiltration 0.57

00:08:07.420 here in the united states but that is something that is not unique to what's going on on here i

00:08:12.060 know they're doing it in taiwan too so can you talk to the audience a little bit about what it looks

00:08:17.100 like these foreign influence operations from the politician perspective in other words these

00:08:21.900 influence campaigns whether it's you know money or honey pots however they they do it how is that

00:08:27.340 influencing uh the election and just politics more broadly there absolutely i think natalie the reason

00:08:35.100 why you got so many followers uh from our movement because you're probably um the only person that i

00:08:41.420 know who actually dig deep into the foreign filing the foreign foreign registration act you know this is

00:08:49.340 uh the the this act was introduced by congress in 1938 to fight nazi germans the propaganda and

00:08:57.100 influence paddling on the u.s soil but very few few people actually you know uh research and did very deep

00:09:04.540 research into the filing and a lot of your investigative reporting exposed how the ccp has infiltrated

00:09:13.500 in the u.s politics in business and they have not been held accountable for the far violation for

00:09:21.340 for example i remember you did an excellent investigative reporting showing that the mainstream media in this

00:09:27.980 country ranging from the new york times and cnn and the wall street journal and msnbc these people they

00:09:35.980 are they're sending their uh editors and reporters are going to china all being paid by the ccp and that's 0.93

00:09:44.380 exactly what the ccp is doing to the taiwanese local politicians in order to win the legislative 0.63

00:09:51.500 race the ccp has recently paid up to 600 local politicians from taiwan to visit china and uh of 0.88

00:10:01.260 course you know nothing is provided for free you know they want something in return which is they're

00:10:07.180 you know being opinion leader they want this uh beijing want these local politicians to influence their

00:10:13.900 local uh you know voters to vote for the pro-beijing parties and another example is that there's a

00:10:21.340 a legislative candidate her name is ma zhiwei this woman has been found of taking tens of thousands 1.00

00:10:29.660 of dollars uh from beijing and even given important intel to the ccp about this election so this person

00:10:37.980 has has been detained by the taiwanese government and so these are some things that we already know from

00:10:44.620 the media but i'm sure um the depth and the breadth of the ccp's unrestricted um infiltration in the 0.96

00:10:52.700 taiwanese uh local politics is probably beyond measure and last question before i uh i let you go

00:11:02.300 obviously we hate tick tock here in the war room none of us are are on it it's a psyop run by the chinese 1.00

00:11:08.220 communist party but how has that social media platform and maybe some others been really leveraged

00:11:13.580 and weaponized to allow the chinese communist party to influence the election there or just the

00:11:18.780 prevailing discourse on on whatever the issue is absolutely great question again i mean the

00:11:26.860 disinformation campaign in taiwan um you know launched by the ccp is very similar to what we're

00:11:33.100 seeing in this country on the u.s soil for example in taiwan there are over 5 million tiktok users and

00:11:40.940 that's a lot of people and most of these tiktok users are younger generation they're young people

00:11:48.060 in their 20s and these people uh they have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by the ccp's 1.00

00:11:54.300 disinformation campaign on tiktok and it's just like in this country so many young people have been you

00:12:01.100 know brainwashed or influenced by the anti-semitism spread by the tiktok users and also the leading

00:12:10.780 uh the presidential candidate koen jay from the tpp he's very pro-beijing and he wants reunification

00:12:20.060 with the ccp i mean this person has 1.6 million followers on tiktok and so i think the social media

00:12:30.220 platform has been instrumental uh to the ccp's disinformation campaign so i worry that things are

00:12:38.620 happening to taiwan's uh presidential election is happening to the u.s upcoming uh you know

00:12:47.180 presidential election because the ccp's playbook is pretty much the same 1.00

00:12:53.820 i uh i think i i was the one that had broken the story that the the founder of tiktok he admitted that

00:12:59.580 they created the app to quote promote socialist core values and foster devotion to the chinese

00:13:06.140 communist party and i think that is exactly what we're seeing play out in real time nicole thank

00:13:11.020 you so much for joining us if people want to follow you get in touch with the new federal state of china

00:13:15.420 movement where can they go to do all of that yes absolutely and um before you let me go i want to add

00:13:23.180 another thing about the honey pot you know because the ccp is very good at uh corrupting the politicians 1.00

00:13:29.900 and when these politicians or businessmen travel to china and they will send you know sex bribes and 0.51

00:13:36.780 put everything on tape and according to our whistleblowers and this is exactly when why the former

00:13:43.900 taiwanese president ma ying jo is uh is spreading the beijing's disinformation propaganda because he

00:13:51.660 definitely has some tapes being held in ccp's hands so you can follow us on nfsc speak um x formerly known

00:13:59.740 as twitter or nfsc speak sound gather and thank you so much for having me today of course thank you

00:14:06.300 so much for joining us thank you now our next guest is dr bradley thayer who is always writing wonderful

00:14:15.180 commentary for the war room.org website and always doing so much more but i wanted to kind of take a

00:14:20.540 step back because i think the uh the war room posse the kind of nationalist populist movement has maybe

00:14:26.940 you know a bad memory a bad taste in the mouth when we start to talk about other countries than

00:14:32.940 our own right when we focus on the borders or you know geopolitical situation of you know taiwan and

00:14:38.860 maybe it's the the ukraine syndrome right um i think there's a there's a distinction between what's

00:14:43.660 going on in ukraine and taiwan of course but in your opinion and maybe i'm wrong on this but can you

00:14:49.100 explain to to the audience why you think that taiwan matters to the united states but from an america

00:14:57.500 first perspective if you think that is the case well hi natalie it's great to to be with you again

00:15:05.260 so it certainly matters taiwan matters to the united states and to this audience

00:15:11.100 uh for four major reasons the first of which is that uh taiwan is the world's leading chip producer

00:15:20.540 so our economy is heavily dependent of course on those chips uh and um if anything were to interfere

00:15:28.140 with it with chip production of course which would happen if uh china invades uh taiwan uh that would 0.98

00:15:36.380 have a very significant impact uh on a u.s economy which is already stressed due to the so many other

00:15:44.140 problems that it has with respect to inflation or illegal immigration and uh the stresses that are

00:15:50.220 being introduced uh by the biden administration the second reason why it matters is because taiwan

00:15:56.940 occupies critical geo-strategic real estate uh in conjunction with japan and the philippines taiwan

00:16:04.540 occupies space that serves to bottle up uh the people's republic of china's aggression its ability 0.78

00:16:11.340 to access uh the pacific ocean uh so having taiwan uh as a partner of the united states is absolutely

00:16:20.620 essential third reason why it matters is because taiwan can also be used as a base uh by uh the united

00:16:29.340 states intelligence communities of course in the military uh and other actors to project power

00:16:35.660 against uh against the people's republic of china and then fourthly it matters because in the realm of

00:16:42.700 political warfare you're very attuned to this natalie of course that taiwan is significant for two major

00:16:49.980 reasons one of which it shows what china should be that taiwan is a vibrant democracy with a flourishing

00:16:57.580 economy uh and um that has a long tradition of course now of of uh elections um and competitive

00:17:05.980 political parties democratic institutions all of that shows uh that china could have those elements as

00:17:14.140 well if the communists had not come to power in 1949 and taken china in a very dark uh and uh a terrible 0.87

00:17:23.580 uh direction uh direction so it matters firstly in political warfare because it shows what uh china 0.97

00:17:30.700 might be could have been and at some point might be again if the ccp were over overthrown the second 0.96

00:17:38.860 reason why taiwan matters is because the taiwanese have great knowledge about what's happening within

00:17:45.180 um uh within china uh and so uh the taiwanese can offer great help and assistance in

00:17:53.180 identifying themes uh cleavages uh in um the people's republic of china's uh society that can be

00:18:01.900 exploited through political warfare uh to undermine um the chinese communist party so all of those

00:18:10.620 reasons means taiwan is a critical partner of the united states our economy is heavily dependent on it

00:18:17.420 in the war against the people's republic of china taiwan is a critical partner and the taiwanese have

00:18:24.700 critical advice to give us and insights to provide about how to cut the head off the snake which is how to

00:18:31.820 overthrow the chinese communist party and remove that threat existential threat from the united states and 0.99

00:18:40.860 from uh the american people election integrity perspective that we should look at what's going

00:18:50.860 on in taiwan since the chinese communist party is obviously so intent on influencing those election

00:18:55.660 results i think you said at first but it's sort of a trial run for what they could potentially try to

00:19:00.860 do here in the united states yes so um joseph wu with the the taiwanese foreign minister at the beginning of the

00:19:10.620 the year said that uh uh the uh ccp's interfering in the taiwanese election no surprise there and he 0.93

00:19:18.620 identified mechanisms through uh essentially cyber means that they're going to be doing as secondly as

00:19:25.020 nicole mentioned right traditions of bribery uh interference when nicole mentioned the 600 local

00:19:31.660 officials uh who were invited uh to china uh of course those are ways to buy influence um within

00:19:41.100 china um and then there are coercive measures for example the satellite launch airplanes for example

00:19:47.900 all of that signaling uh the taiwanese people that um communist china is looking at them very very

00:19:55.180 closely and wants to put the thumb on the scale uh for uh their favorite candidates but all of this is a

00:20:02.620 trial run um for the united states for november uh 2024 in our u.s presidential election because there are

00:20:12.060 other mechanisms that joseph who didn't mention um that can be employed as well uh we're worried about

00:20:18.220 of course the employment of artificial intelligence and deep fakes uh in that regard we're also worried

00:20:24.300 about uh the uh tens of thousands no one really knows how many um chinese uh uh uh men of military age

00:20:35.020 very likely mss agents or uh pla uh agents or or um people's police or other uh authorities are coming into

00:20:44.220 the united states those individuals of course uh could be a fifth column they could be used to um conduct

00:20:51.340 election interference operations uh and so that provides muscle really for the chinese communist

00:20:57.820 party on the ground within the united states uh to undermine uh our elections other tools as well

00:21:05.420 xi jinping's embraced by the 400 individuals uh business leaders uh who came uh in san francisco

00:21:13.500 in the san francis in the bay area uh who welcomed him at that unseemly and appalling meeting

00:21:19.260 that they had in mid-november that's a key aspect of election interference too what he's signaling is

00:21:25.420 to those leaders business leaders have tremendous influence of course on congress elsewhere in

00:21:30.300 washington of course with the administration and with the society at large um they're interfering in

00:21:37.260 the election uh by conveying their support xi jinping and xi jinping is saying to those 400 that hey he

00:21:44.060 wants to ensure that uh if you will a pro-engagement candidate wins that would be biden or gavin newsom

00:21:51.740 or michelle obama uh clearly uh as opposed to trump uh who of course xi jinping does not want to have

00:22:00.220 elected so we can see that there are many uh mechanisms that the um prc can use to interfere in

00:22:07.500 our election and taiwan is a test case for that some are very old-fashioned like bribery uh business

00:22:15.260 influence for example all of that is is quite well known others are perhaps more on the cutting edge

00:22:22.620 when we're looking at how artificial intelligence can be deployed as well and then also something we

00:22:28.940 have not had in american elections where there is a fifth column uh physically interfering in the

00:22:34.620 electoral process um providing muscle uh for the prc to get behind their favorite candidates uh so

00:22:42.300 it's going to be obviously as um war room has stressed time and again 2024 is a critical election

00:22:49.580 year uh but it's going to be affected not just by what the democrats do uh but also by what uh and

00:22:56.540 how the people's republic of china interferes uh in the election before i let you go you had a

00:23:03.580 wonderful piece up i think it was an american greatness um that had to do with kind of the

00:23:08.380 chinese military how they're maybe projecting weakness when that actually wasn't the case i'm

00:23:12.940 sure sun tzu would be uh would be very proud um but if you want to walk the audience a little bit uh

00:23:17.740 through that i'm sure they'd appreciate it and then i'll i'll let you go

00:23:22.460 oh well thank you yes i wrote that with uh with jim finnell uh of course and um the piece was making the

00:23:29.340 following argument that uh there is uh there has been recently a lot of attention paid purportedly

00:23:35.820 to the weakness of xi jinping uh and uh his lack of control or perhaps tenuous control over the chinese 0.94

00:23:43.900 military there have been a series of news reports natalie of course you're very familiar with those in

00:23:49.580 terms of recent firings um that have been done in uh by um senior military uh officials there have been

00:23:58.140 news reports about for example how chinese nuclear capabilities are not what they are but uh there's

00:24:04.060 corruption uh in um for example their intercontinental ballistic missile force uh and how that's been

00:24:11.660 manipulated um jim and i think that that's not accurate that in fact uh as you said at the outset

00:24:18.380 introducing it that it is uh an aspect of conveying weakness when in fact they're very strong in terms

00:24:24.220 of their growing conventional power and in terms of their tremendous growth in their nuclear arsenal

00:24:31.100 and nuclear infrastructure the ability to produce nuclear weapons at a large scale and the ability

00:24:36.700 to deploy those on new systems at a strategic range able to reach the u.s or in a theater range

00:24:43.740 in asia against india for example or our allies australia the philippines japan or even at a tactical

00:24:51.260 level against for example of the u.s navy uh so we made that argument additionally we said that um

00:24:59.020 a very interesting development has occurred and that is that there is now an admiral who is the which

00:25:04.140 uh uh the chinese defense minister uh and that is an indication uh of xi's control actually his ability

00:25:13.660 uh to not pick a general which traditionally had been a chinese defense minister to reach out uh to pick

00:25:20.220 a naval officer an admiral uh to serve as a defense minister and that's an indication of um the uh

00:25:29.420 growing importance of maritime power moving away from land power uh of course which is still

00:25:36.140 significant of course for china but showing that um the chinese military has also greatly expanded its

00:25:42.540 maritime presence its ability to project power using its navy and coast guard and affiliated uh forces

00:25:50.220 and it shows also works in tandem of course with its growing nuclear capabilities uh as i mentioned

00:25:57.260 show it shows that the chinese military is very dynamic and growing in ways which are not

00:26:03.340 traditional it's showing that it is able to and uh they were coming up against a break so i'm sorry

00:26:09.180 but i have to interrupt you there if people want to follow you read the pieces where can they go to

00:26:13.420 do all that uh brad theron x or bradley theron getter and uh at truth natalie thanks very much

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00:31:45.660 welcome back to the war room it's still natalie g winters holding down before but don't worry see

00:31:54.860 we'll be back tomorrow and you also don't have to worry because we have i think one of the uh

00:32:00.620 the best and most prepared war room guests to come on very shortly that is of course colonel john

00:32:07.740 mills who always brings the best charts and graphs he knows i i love them very much

00:32:13.020 um so john you're one of those those guests where i feel like i don't really even have to ask you a

00:32:17.740 question because you're always so prepared so tell us what we need to know about you know

00:32:22.700 these upcoming elections and feel free to take it as your own play the videos show us the graphs the

00:32:28.620 clips it's the floor is yours oh thank you uh natalie it's always an honor to be on the show with you

00:32:35.580 and uh it's morning time in taipei taiwan uh hey logan let's start with clip 141 please

00:32:45.020 to you because that was being repeated in ukraine or this is the repetition of what's happening in

00:32:51.100 ukraine and you can see the news link of this uh that's a report uh by taiwan and then another thing

00:33:00.060 uh it's about the tsmc investment in arizona you know this is a big uh so stop let's go to the still

00:33:11.420 picture of the missile alert yeah so this was a press conference by uh joseph wu the foreign minister

00:33:20.700 and then a short time later we got interrupted by this missile alert that caused a bit of pandemonium in

00:33:26.220 the room um so let's go to the next picture of the air tracks around taiwan that picture of the map

00:33:32.620 of taiwan and all the colorful lines around taiwan that's the most yeah so this was uh the person next

00:33:43.420 to me was a brit who was from a spanish radio station in beijing and he didn't get the alert and

00:33:50.300 was a bit panicked and wondering why he didn't get the alert uh well we'll talk about that so i

00:33:55.020 actually brought this question up at the press conference with uh mr wu and they actually were

00:33:59.980 so interested they came over directly to me and they called upon uh this is the war room and uh world

00:34:06.860 worldview uh television you know uh me representing both and they they wanted to they called on me over

00:34:13.020 some of these other players such as uh the the new york times etc etc and they came up want to talk

00:34:18.780 about this afterwards this is the air track of the enduring high altitude law uh long endurance drones

00:34:26.060 that are continually circling taiwan and i brought these up as one it's a military message two uh it

00:34:33.260 is uh information warfare cognitive warfare which mr wu and mr lai and shao bai kim the vice presidential

00:34:40.700 candidate went into and i said so it's a military message it's a it's intimidation it's coercion which is

00:34:46.780 illegal uh per u.s law uh it's also uh cognitive warfare it's also a safety of flight issue and

00:34:54.300 this is an exact reason why taiwan should be let back into international bodies such as icao the

00:35:00.460 international civil airline organization i had to fly through this and you know okay is my uh my

00:35:05.900 airliner going to bump into one of these uh long dwell drones that can be armed these these drones do

00:35:10.940 have the capability arms so this is an absolute coercion intimidation and a message of an ability to

00:35:17.020 envelop taiwan let's go to clip uh 53 please amy there

00:35:26.700 all right everyone this is curl rat john in uh new taipei city and i got a somebody here named amy and amy

00:35:36.220 where do you live at actually los angeles california so the taiwan city of los angeles california so you

00:35:44.380 came back here to vote is that correct i came back just for the vote because i feel the urgency this time

00:35:51.500 and i never really voted here before so if i could ask you which candidate are you voting for

00:35:59.340 oh you mean here yes the green party of course that is absolutely awesome amy thank you so much

00:36:09.900 thank you so much for participating both both in both in america and here um i'm so happy i can join

00:36:17.260 this historic moment with everybody here i love it oh this is great thank you very much amy thank you

00:36:25.900 okay let's go to clip 170 uh let's go to 178 please so so amy was there she was at the d at a dpp

00:36:37.580 rally been to several the dpp is essentially make taiwan great again let's go to 178 with peter

00:36:45.420 this is colonel red john we're at the tpp rally uh with peter so peter what brought you to the rally

00:36:52.540 tonight okay very good so he's a fan of the tpp and ko uh so uh so peter what was what is the biggest

00:37:11.580 issue for the election in your mind this is the biggest issue for the election in your mind

00:37:28.940 she want to um i want to to to to have a change because before in taiwan it was just only two 0.92

00:37:36.380 parties go against each other yeah i want to break this situation okay so peter would like to see

00:37:43.820 uh yeah there was a lot of fighting between the other two parties and so he'd like to see a new

00:37:47.900 party come in and change the dynamic so peter what about taiwan and china clip 167

00:37:58.780 again we're at the kmt rally this is han ko yu speaking right now he was a former presidential

00:38:04.780 candidate he was the mayor of kaosheng he lost in the 2020 election but he's out campaigning for the kmt

00:38:16.620 okay let's go to clip one of uh the one uh oh my gosh i can't see it there uh the wang yi trump one

00:38:24.540 that's clip 158 150 yes this is this is team tyrone this is the dpp party

00:38:41.980 you're gonna probably see a picture there he is there he is

00:38:45.180 there he is

00:38:54.140 okay we can

00:38:57.100 okay great great so it shows a diversity of the different candidates so green team of taiwan

00:39:03.340 that's the dpp that's william william lye and shao bai kim they have a very close they want a close

00:39:10.300 relationship with america and they're very populist out of the three parties they are definitely the

00:39:15.020 populist party they want to be a sovereign i mean they they feel they are already a sovereign

00:39:20.540 independent nation they don't need to ask permission of anybody especially that big uh thuggish country 0.99

00:39:25.900 to the left and uh they say so so they are we're already our own country and uh he also uh uh doctor we

00:39:33.900 also mentioned the uh uh tsmc chips again so important to our economy now we we have a special

00:39:40.620 visit this afternoon we're going to a tsmc chip plant i mean taiwan is just kind of like the the

00:39:45.820 little swiss uh watchmaker why are they so good at watches in switzerland who knows but i mean same

00:39:50.860 with chips taiwan is just the world's best chip maker and i spent some time over here when i was in

00:39:56.780 dod and uh uh couldn't it was hard to explain they just get it right and they nail it uh when it comes

00:40:02.700 to chip manufacturing which is a very very complex and expensive process and you got to get everything

00:40:08.220 you got to get those jigs and casts and dies set up i mean it's big money you got to get it set up

00:40:13.740 right and correct and once it's right and correct you start champ stamping out those chips you've got

00:40:18.700 to get it right it's very expensive process and they get it right um yet hanko at the kmt that's the legacy

00:40:26.060 goming dong cheng kai-shek party and uh not that we're being partisan anyway it's a big snooze

00:40:32.460 at those uh not not big gatherings hanko is totally in the pocket of the ccp and he was the candidate 0.94

00:40:40.060 from last uh in 2020 and the taiwanese very effectively uh in january or excuse me december

00:40:47.580 of 19 november december of 2019 they passed a law really quickly forbade and they called it the

00:40:54.780 anti-infiltration law um that forbade the taking of money of foreign money and they arrested a bunch of

00:41:00.860 dirty kmt hanko was the was the candidate back then uh um president sai one and uh was very good totally

00:41:09.580 shut down the the chinese influence operations they've already had almost 200 arrests under the

00:41:15.660 anti-infiltration law in fact that that gentleman at the nighttime outside rally um the tpp they kind of

00:41:23.660 they kind of are the centrist party we don't want to see fighting between you know the kmt and the dpt

00:41:31.420 uh but they most of them say they want to be independent well if they want to be independent

00:41:36.380 join the dpp why why are you want to be in the tpp um but um um hanko is is is is he still has a lot of

00:41:44.780 power and uh you know the numbers uh uh it's unclear because there's about a 10-day uh silence

00:41:52.460 window on numbers and polling uh it looks like lions in the lead the question of that's the that's

00:42:00.220 the green candidate for the dpp the populist party uh and uh so we uh we're we're coming down to the

00:42:07.820 election on this saturday here the question is really the legislature it's pretty pretty sure

00:42:13.020 not for sure we can't say for sure but it's leaning toward live for the presidency the question is the

00:42:19.100 the national assembly the legislative you want who's is that gonna who's gonna dominate there

00:42:23.820 because if it's split uh that could be a little bit of trouble so natalie that's an overview of all

00:42:29.500 the actions and activities over here so far well thank you so much for that extremely thorough

00:42:36.620 overview seriously that was that was wonderful i'm sure the audience appreciated that i have one

00:42:41.100 question uh for you before i let you go because you sort of just did everything you laid it all

00:42:46.700 out for us you can't get that in the mainstream media um but we were talking with dr bradley thayer

00:42:51.500 in the previous segment about how we think some of these foreign influence options that they're using

00:42:56.940 to infiltrate and influence these elections that it's sort of like a test run or a trial run for

00:43:01.100 how the ccp could potentially influence the elections here in the united states i'm just curious your

00:43:06.140 perspective on that and the center of gravity of the chinese influence operation in america is

00:43:12.700 definitely going to be tick tock and you notice the blue team in america the biden team they've

00:43:17.420 been very hesitant now it's odd they do allow tick tock uh in taiwan however uh with my experience with

00:43:26.220 the uh taiwan ministry of national defense and the taiwan cyber security agency the taiwan

00:43:32.780 SERP community computer emergency response team they are very good at bleeping and uh uh uh deleting

00:43:43.340 tick tock videos that are that are clearly influence activities and they and they didn't mention that

00:43:48.460 specific aspect but i just uh i know they're very good at that here so they're good at throttling the uh

00:43:55.180 the the the ones that are clearly shameless uh influence that's gonna be the tip of the spear in america is

00:44:01.740 tick tock this is why the blue team in america just declines to uh they might go after they might cut

00:44:08.220 off chips from the mainland uh they might keep trump trade tariffs but they just drag their feet on this

00:44:14.940 tick tock issue and so that's going to be the tip of the spear for chinese influence of the american

00:44:20.700 election in november colonel mills if people want to really get your wonderful analysis get the i think

00:44:27.980 it's substack or the email where can they go to do all that at colonel ret john substack getter and

00:44:35.340 truth colonel ret john at substack you'll just stop you'll say stop stop sending me things i'm getting

00:44:41.420 i'm drowning in all this incredible material so colonel ret john substack getter and truth i'm also on

00:44:47.020 friday's cd media with the pivot pacific sitrep also wednesday thursday nights america out loud news

00:44:53.900 network with the uh uh national security hour podcast and uh then also starting a new show the

00:45:00.620 situation room on worldview television with uh brandon house amazing congratulations and thank you so much

00:45:07.740 for joining us natalie thank you always an honor to be on your on your show with you thank you thank you

00:45:15.180 almost as much of an honor as being on with steve no i'm just still being so self-deprecating

00:45:21.420 um our next guest chris uh you are joining us i i think you have some some more to contribute to

00:45:28.060 the the discussion of what's going on in taiwan hi thank you so much for joining us so i'm just curious

00:45:34.460 where do you think the current state of affairs lies what do you want to tell the american people

00:45:39.500 about what we need to know ahead of these elections hi hi everyone um i'm my name is chris i'm a

00:45:49.980 taiwanese patriot and patron and a member of mfsc um i think the people need to know is that taiwan uh is uh

00:46:05.260 uh a love uh a country that love freedom democracy rule of law and human rights we share the same value as

00:46:14.460 americans and um like if we look at uh recently uh our uh former president mind joe's speech

00:46:26.140 that that was a terrible speech and mind joe is a nightmare uh for the taiwan people like we firmly

00:46:36.700 oppose mind joe because he is a total sellout and then kmt is a sellout and then the tpp leader

00:46:47.980 kewen zhe is also a sellout too his his uh the mind joe's speech uh yesterday um it was uh it doesn't

00:47:00.620 represent taiwan represent taiwan or any of the people in taiwan he only represent xi jinping and then

00:47:09.820 uh back in times that the registrator uh controlled under kmt and mind joe blocked the arms sales between

00:47:22.380 the usa and taiwan for uh six nine times and then like during uh mind joe's interview he criticized

00:47:33.980 speaker pelosi and other usa officials who supported taiwan so as a taiwanese we urge the usa government

00:47:44.220 to support taiwan's sovereignty we do not want war we want the world to keep taiwan straight safe taiwan

00:47:54.860 has never caused any damage to the world taiwan is not a problem but a part of a solution to the world

00:48:02.700 as taiwanese we want like our next president to defend taiwan's sovereignty and democracy we don't want

00:48:13.260 what happened in hong kong to repeat again in taiwan we want the international community to support taiwan's

00:48:22.860 national defense and economic economic prosperity so uh like taiwan can uh work with the rest of the world

00:48:35.820 keep to keep uh the the world safe and we can help the world together to take down the ccp too so that's 1.00

00:48:44.940 what i would like to that everyone know today and i'm just curious you know you're obviously talking

00:48:53.180 to a bunch of american patriots here in the war room um what would you tell them as a cautionary tale

00:49:00.380 either anecdotally or more broadly but what it looks like when the chinese communist party infiltrates

00:49:06.860 your country takes over you know even personal stories what does that look like and why should 0.66

00:49:12.700 americans i mean not that they don't know but but why should we really justifiably be so scared of a

00:49:18.220 potential ccp invasion or takeover or continued infiltration in taiwan and here at home 0.96

00:49:24.220 well like american people need to uh be careful of the ccp is that what ccp touches it turns into 0.97

00:49:39.180 something really bad like if you uh remember what happened after ccp took china there was a cultural 1.00

00:49:49.020 revolution and all the massacres so um and also if you see what uh ccp do to the country who joined the 1.00

00:50:01.820 one bill one road they they don't get better like they when they work with ccp they only get worse 0.99

00:50:10.460 and we see recently that ccp has infiltrated uh the whole world uh also they infiltrate america 0.96

00:50:18.860 we see like how uh how things changed in america but people are fighting so we should keep out the

00:50:28.380 fight and we should push uh ccp away uh we should oppose ccp and we should like uh don't give money to 0.99

00:50:37.900 a ccp like listen to the advice from new federal state of china and then 0.99

00:50:44.700 ccp and unite on this issue of taking down the ccp yeah chris thank you so much i have apparently a

00:50:59.260 bunch of sunlight coming in but thank you so much for joining us i know the warren posse loves to hear

00:51:03.180 the kind of boots on the ground perspective what it's really like if people want to follow you the

00:51:07.900 new federal state of china movement where can they go to do all that oh i'm i'm now in the taiwan farm

00:51:15.580 it's a part of the new federal state of china and in taiwan farm we have lots of uh members and we

00:51:23.820 we do online and offline online we uh we post on gather and uh we post on uh genius and uh offline we

00:51:37.100 promote uh getter and genius and then we spread the truth to the world so uh just thank you thank

00:51:46.060 you so much for joining us i'm sure the posse will love to follow you there thank you so much for

00:51:50.220 joining us and warren posse thank you so much for hanging with me you guys know we don't want the

00:51:54.620 chinese communist party to infiltrate us any more than they already have that's why we got to support 0.96

00:51:58.860 the parallel and alternative economy which is of course epitomized by public square you got to check it

00:52:03.900 out either if you're a business owner like myself you can go to shop she's so right dot co or if

00:52:08.540 you're a consumer and you want to buy goods from companies that don't hate you and don't want to

00:52:12.220 throw you in prison uh for daring to question the results of the 2020 election you can check out public

00:52:17.420 square you can do all that on their website really great website why to check it out and like i said

00:52:23.180 don't worry steve will be back tomorrow 10 a.m thank you so much for hanging out with me uh and honestly

00:52:30.060 colonel mills all these guests this is analysis you guys can't get in the mainstream news because

00:52:34.700 they're bought and paid for by the ccp thank you so much for watching you guys have a good evening

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Bannon's War Room - January 11, 2024

WarRoom Battleground EP 448： Countdown To Taiwan Election

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