WarRoom Battleground EP 464: Keeping The State Out Of The Family
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Mark Paoletta was a member of the White House Council of White House Counsel and served as a White House Liaison to the Supreme Court Justice Thomas Thomas. He was also part of the committee that helped create the current Supreme Court justices.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon thursday 1 february year of alert 2024 thank you so much for joining us
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second hour appreciate it um the early evening edition of the uh of the war room i want to bring
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in mark paoletta uh first mark was um over he was you have the white house council and then you have
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the vice president's white house council he was there at the beginning he was also part of the
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committee the very select five-man committee that helped work through the uh the supreme court justices
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people think so highly of mark now over at cra one of the great fighters russ vote jeff clark that team
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over there mark i i had you on here because it's kicking off black history month and one of the most
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i think revered uh african americans in the country is justice thomas but i want to get i want to get up
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to speed on everything i see you fighting for and it's very disturbing we're in vegas for this pre-rnc
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meeting um you know restoring national confidence we had i had people come in from the audience we
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interviewed him fascinating guy who runs a used to work for newt gingrich years ago he's dedicated his
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life to say hey you guys are missing it because if biden wins they're immediately going to pack the
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court that that's going to be his number one thing and this guy's running a group to do it it's just
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fascinating but i see every day that you're fighting the fight they're trying to get justice thomas off
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they're trying to recuse himself on every topic out there they're they're smearing the justice
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intimidation a lot of people are saying like this texas situation is amy comey barrett even
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as good as she great as she is was she intimidated now by this mob is roberts intimidated by this mob
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just you know this better than anybody give us a snapshot on where we are and then what this
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audience can do to assist sure sure thanks steve thanks for having me on um you're right they are
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going to try and pack the court right that is the that is their their goal to win the presidency
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win both houses and then pack the court right in the in the meantime they want to shrink the court
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right because we have this originalist uh majority on the supreme court for the first time ever okay
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and certainly in modern times modern modern times uh going back many many decades and the left is
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furious so what they're trying to do is they go after these justices the originalists with these
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made-up ethics charges or recusals and they're all false i can tell you i've studied this a lot
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i've written on it a lot you can have your viewers go to mark paoletta.com or follow me on on on x at
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at mark paoletta and i lay it all out that there there are no issues uh for why any of these justices
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need to recuse from these cases but that's what they want they want to take off justice thomas they
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want to take off uh justice corsage the other day they were going after him on some lunatic um
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allegation about him having to step away from the chevron case the case that was looking at
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chevron and on deference and it's so that they have their preferred hang on hang on folks should
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folks should folks should understand that that's the deconstruction of the administrative state that
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is the mac daddy of what we've been doing we got two elements cra we're going to take it apart brick
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by brick but you must have the legal side come in here that's why justice gorsuch and kavanaugh are so
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important as you remember mark but they're obviously we call it the thomas court so i just want to go
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back to something that's very important i said already in the chat they their focus and folks
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remember this this would have happened probably if hillary clinton won we avoided that with trump's
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great come from behind victory in 16 yeah what paoletta is saying is that strategically if biden is to win
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again and they and they take the house and hold the senate they will immediately go to take out the
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third branch of government which will be the judiciary by packing the supreme court in the interim what they
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intend to do is to shrink the court and they're going to shrink the court either through intimidation
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or these phony recusals that's between now and uh in election day is to shrink the court down
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from the from the conservative uh majority correct and and and if they win then to expand the court
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many more justice just to to dilute the the uh the court is that the correct way to look at it
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that's exactly right that it's the bullying but it's really the recusals that they need to recuse
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they can't sit on this case because whatever it's something they come up with um and so
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their their spouse has expressed an opinion on a case or on an issue or something like that none of
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those things constitute a reason to recuse and i lay out in many instances over the years that you
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know the left never had any problems with you know um spouses working in an area and the justice not
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recusing or whatever the allegation is so that's the attack right now is to attack those originalist
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justices intimidate them try and get them to recuse um my senses and looking at this there's no reason
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to recuse that but the left it's you need to understand your viewers need to understand see
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it is just a seismic change in america that we have an originalist court it's the only thing protecting
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our republic right now and it hasn't been that way it's important to understand even though there
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were republican presidents in the past like reagan bush bush 43 we've never had an originalist court a
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conservative court a constitutional court that's faithful to the constitution it was always left
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of center you had blackman you had o'connor you had justice stevens you had brennan all of these
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left-wing justices right were appointed by republican presidents david souter my god hold on souter i mean
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you had one disaster listen this is why it was i'm gonna give some inside baseball because it was
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pence reintz myself uh and it was really don mcgain and mark and what don mcgain mark came up with it
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said hey look it can't be biography anymore right it can't be any kind of you know a profile it can't
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be a state court judge has and it has to be by written opinion what drives us is intellect discernment
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judgment and that's seen in the written opinion and i think that's why you have the quality people of
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kavanaugh and and particularly justice gorsuch who to me is like alito scalia level um but you're
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right this is a precious thing we have and that's why the left's gone nuts remember they've held the
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supreme court up as as absolutely the most important institution in the nation until originalists were
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put on there now they're like demons attacking it including physically attacking and this is right
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the other thing mark as you look at the types of cases not just the chevron deference but the
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administrative state if you look at the top you know you had dobbs but look at this invasion of
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the southern border i mean the types of cases that are coming to the supreme court now are are at such
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a scale each one could have a major impact on the direction of the republic i shouldn't say each one but
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many each session and now more than ever the court's going to be under the spotlight that's right i mean
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in the past few years right you've had dobbs you've had the affirmative action case you've had
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religious liberties uh cases all of those cases uh the second amendment cases um is strengthening the
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second amendment faithful to the constitution so all of these cases including the case next week
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right with uh the 14th amendment uh and the and the you know outrageous attempt to try and keep
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president trump off the ballot uh in colorado and maine and other states those are cases again where
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they're going to try and say justice thomas needs to recuse or justice x needs to recuse it's it's
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warfare on the court as you just said steve what this triggered right and again the stakes are so
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high here what the left has done is unleashed war on the supreme court and you saw that with senator
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schumer this goes right to the top of the democrat party standing outside the on the steps of the supreme
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court during an abortion oral argument to threaten physically justices kavanaugh and corsage to vote the
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right way or they would they would know they won't know what hit you he said we will unleash the
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whirlwind you won't know what hit you and what happens after that an assassination attempt on
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justice uh kavanaugh and his family so that's what the left has done that's what's at stake here
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it's important for people to support the supreme court to stand up to push back against the left
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and members of congress who have directly threatened the supreme court
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i remember i was in i think rome it was uh during the uh the the voting uh getting ready for
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the european parliamentary election when justice kavanaugh was approved i'm watching on television
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i think on bbc and i see that mob run across the capitol plaza to the supreme court and go up and
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start banging with none of this none of the marshals stop they go up and start banging on this huge
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massive doors and i said that is like the french revolution if they could have gotten through those
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doors they would have torn people apart i mean it was an absolute irrational mob it looked like
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you know france in 1792 so that was i think the trigger point of god it was scary let me play i
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want to do something we're kicking off black history month with i think to me one of the most esteemed
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african americans who's under relentless attack let's play the clip from the film go back to mark
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sure judge thomas you solemnly swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth
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when i was six i wandered the streets by myself you were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat
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some place in my life the roads split off i had gone to the seminary i had gone to all white schools
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i was never going to be a part of that world i was never going to be white
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the problem is i could never go back completely to the world i came from
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we're supposed to be revolutionaries we were for anybody who's kind of in your face
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i saw what i had become lashing out at every single thing
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and then i asked god that if you take anger out of my heart i'll never hate again
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and that was the beginning of the slow return to where i started
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i want my candidacy to unify our country i was under constant attack you're not really black because
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you're not doing what we expect black people to do
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i will nominate judge clarence thomas to serve as associate justice of the united states supreme court
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that's when all heck broke loose judge thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex
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we know exactly what's going on here this is the wrong black guy he has to be destroyed
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you really didn't matter what mattered was what they wanted so you'd still like to serve on the
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supreme court i'd rather die than withdraw from the process
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i wouldn't be able to say i lived up to my oath and did my best
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one of our greatest living patriots justice clarence thomas mark tell me about you have a
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very strong personal relationship of course the filmmaker is a partner of mine working with him
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for years i think the finest documentary and filmmaker in the country michael pack he's also
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guys remember the last 600 meters many other films we did rick over together he's just an incredible that
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this movie actually will bring you to tears it's so powerful tell me about your relationship with
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him and justice thomas i met justice thomas back in 1983 um and then reconnected with him uh in the
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white house uh when i was the first person to reach out to him for the dc circuit worked on his
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confirmation became incredibly close to him during that that hell zone of going through that confirmation
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um and we've been lifelong friends since then when i got cancer uh he came and visited me every day uh
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this is the last year the white house of bush 41 and 92. uh a great man a dear friend our greatest
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american living america and our greatest justice and so um you know during black history month
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we should celebrate justice thomas uh as our as i said as our greatest living american he's got this
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incredible story uh american story of being born into segregation as you saw it's a beautiful film
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um i was very involved with the making of that film uh i could watch it many many times and i urge your
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your viewers to watch that film stream it um it's two hours of you will as you said it will you'll be
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moved to tears you'll be inspired by him and there's a companion book that movie was based on 25
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hours of one-on-one interviews that michael pack our good friend and a terrific the best i think
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documentary filmmaker had with justice thomas 25 hours and you can only get so much in a two-hour film
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so the book uh which i co-edited with michael called of the same name created equal clarence thomas
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in his own words is you know the excerpts from those 25 hours so covering a lot more of his life
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and his views on things uh it's just it's a it's an inspiring book because it's justice thomas
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talking about his challenges how he overcame them his love of america um his love of individual rights
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uh and um as you know steve he's a wonderful man um and uh and our greatest justice and he should be
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celebrated during black history month and yet the left will attack him and defame him and he's been you
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know this has been going on for 40 years um but he's one of the things that we talked about in
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terms of picking justices right is when when justice thomas was selected by president bush
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what he saw was a man who had been through the fire right he had been attacked for 10 years in
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washington before he went on the bench uh because the liberal black leadership uh and the left egged on
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by the liberal black leadership attacked him and smeared him in the worst kind of ways and you
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know what he didn't bend he didn't break he stood his ground um and and that's a hero all right that's
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a leader that's a warrior um and and a patriot and that's why i think he is our greatest justice because
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he's a leader on the court you know all of these decisions we were just talking about from you know
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dobbs to the uh the harvard unc case to the bruin case on second amendment the taking on the
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administrative state we're talking about chevron deference but you know all of those things in
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terms of the out of control administration justice thomas has led the way on the court
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when he went on there in 1991 they mocked him they made fun of him they said all sorts of horrible
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things which which are in the movie right and what did thomas do he just got to work for 30 years
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okay and he's laid out a jurisprudence that is now the roadmap for this originalist court and one of
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the things i remember when we went when they did the gorsuch uh confirmation and selection was that
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neil when he was at the department of justice had written an email to his friend uh greg katsis who
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was uh as it was now on the dc circuit praising justice thomas's opinion in kilo right which was
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the property rights case up in connecticut where what where the government and corporations took these
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people's homes right to build a plant and and enrich themselves people went to jail for that okay um and
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thomas said this is wrong this is against the constitution and he's been proved right but it was
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neil gorsuch looking at justice thomas's opinion and writing an email to his friend which he never
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thought would see the light of day saying thomas is the man basically what an amazing opinion that
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to me spoke a lot when we were looking at neil gorsuch in terms of you know how he thought about
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things uh so um it's as i said it's the first day of black history month i'm really happy you've had
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me on your show uh and i encourage all of your your your viewers to watch that movie read the book
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and then also read justice thomas's own memoirs which are called my grandfather's son um uh which
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came out in 2008 but is a beautiful riveting uh memoir of his of his life just incredible incredible
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man incredible patriot mark uh thinking back with with greg katsas uh um yourself and others uh
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dom again president trump was very fortunate that was a quite powerful white house council's office
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with tremendous tremendous talent and with all the whole administrative state and deep state come
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in the media every day it was like fort apache but you guys were magnificent and people don't know
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the untold story of that group that you guys had but it was just incredible mark i had to get to
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social media how they get to you over cra sure um at mark payoletta uh on on x and mark payoletta.com
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is my website um and i'll throw one more thing out the thomas revolution is going to continue because
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you know thanks to dom again and that team they picked i think 15 uh thomas clerks that are now on
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the courts uh many on the courts of appeal like greg katsas that are going to carry his legacy and his
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approach into the future say that again that that's until i think it's the first time that's that's
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ever been used this shows you how you build and this is what's got the left who thinks they own
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the courts the reason they said they hate thomas they hate trump right they hate what you guys did
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because he's put originalist and i mean the smartest people you meet these people they're so brilliant
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how many how many just how many thomas clerks are here federal judges are playing on the appellate
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yeah 15 thomas former clerks some of them i think two or three of them on a state court but they're on
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the courts of appeals right you have naomi rao on the dc circuit greg katsas you have jim ho um you
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know you just have um allison jones on the fourth circuit these are committed originalists okay david
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strass on the eighth circuit um and you see david pop up from time to time with with opinions that drive
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the the left crazy and so there was one lefty writer who said that thomas wrote these opinions in
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dissent that taught the young lawyers in law school right how to dream how to think big that's
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his impact and like i said there are people on the court uh that are going to go some of them are going
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to be up for the supreme court um you know next time around uh so thomas's revolution uh in his
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lasting legacy will be that he inspired and showed the way for a young group of lawyers and as i said
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president all all praise to president trump for making those appointments and dom again's team of
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of sifting through and finding the right people but i think dom's default was we're looking for thomas
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clerks because that was the place to go to find those committed originalists
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so proud to be a small part of that because i'm not a lawyer but i learned so much brother thank you
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so much mark great job great over at cra thank you so much thanks steve thanks i'm here talk about
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trial by fire those guys in that white house that was trial by fire and that's why march is laid out
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while we must win in november don't think this fight over the courts is over somebody can tell
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you that is brandon showwater i mean brandon at the christian post is really i think the intellectual
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leader he and dr marion grossman i would say and a couple others but really the intellectual
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core of public intellectuals about this horrific thing of the transgender ideology i have you on here
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we've had a bunch of people on a different cases where do we stand and you're you're thinking
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strategically california is the railhead of this walk walk me through where do you think we stand
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today and why is california so important and what do we have to do to turn things around here
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well those are awfully kind words steve and i i thank you for that where we stand is that throughout
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the u.s south and midwest with ohio that's the 23rd state to have passed some kind of a ban
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on the medicalization of children gender ideology infects every realm of culture but i think the
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most egregious harm is the chemical castration sterilization and surgical disfigurement of
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minor children and vulnerable adults i would say just today south carolina that could be the 24th
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state if they go through that would be that would make a clean sweep of the south but i will say as you
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just said steve that the load star the death star california is where i think the fight must be
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because blue state kids matter too i've got a column today on the christian post talking about
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why i believe that is and the polling indicates out in california they were surveyed by spry strategies
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in november that 63 of california voters do not agree with medicalizing children with puberty blockers
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cross-sex hormones and body altering surgeries 68 of california voters say that they don't think
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parents should lose their custody for not affirming their child's chosen gender identity that
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parents are outraged in california across the spectrum republicans and democrats alike and so
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they've risen up to try and bypass what the legislature is not paying them any mind so they're
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trying to put an initiative on the ballot this fall and so if that is successful and they have until april
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18th to gather the requisite 550 000 signatures or so california voters have a chance to reject males and
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women's sports teachers deceiving uh parents about their child's gender distress behind their backs
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and also the medicalization of minor children with this these horrible drugs and surgeries
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so if that goes down in california steve if gender ideology is dealt a body blow in the golden state
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it will be the equivalent to use a biblical analogy of hitting goliath in the forehead and that giant
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falling and then yeah then we know the rest of the story his head is sliced off and the philistines
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wealth is plundered but if it goes down in california it goes down and the fight must be in the belly of
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the beast and we owe it to blue state kids and families to to contest this ideology wherever it lurks
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we can't just resist this kind of horrible dogma in the red states with sympathetic legislatures
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uh brandon where do people go to get all your content including your podcast but you've got a
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film out that's very moving i need people look everybody knows this is not my line of country
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this is probably of all the topics we talk about by far the least one i'm comfortable with but i also
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think it's probably one of the most important if not the most important because it goes to the heart
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of a judeo-christian civilization and what is happening here and the stories are so horrific i mean
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in senior documentary there were so many times i had to just turn away i i can't handle it it's
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that tough at least it's that tough for me i noticed for many people but where do people go
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to get the information we have to immerse ourselves in this and you're right we have to march on
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california we have to take down because people in california don't support this and here's something
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else i know the more you expose us about what's actually going on the more people come to your side
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and say we can't do this this is united states we can't do this now republicans and democrats
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alike don't want to see children sterilized and maimed if the war room posse is interested in
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what's going on in california i would point them to protect kids ca.com and there's parent activists
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who are working bipartisan cross-partisan it is totally a parents movement it's not left or right
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that's where you can find more information there i can be found on exit at brandon m show i would also
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urge everyone to take a listen to our documentary style podcast series at the christian post called
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generation indoctrination that's a generation indoctrination.com and if you want to hear
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about the families that have been torn apart by this dead name it's a very poignant documentary as
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you said steve you probably have to look away because it's so so much of a gut punch and that
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can be found at dead name documentary.com very much urge everyone to see it it'll move your heart
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you have to immerse yourself in this to understand what's going on in the country it will shock you
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all of this is shocking brandon thank you so much thanks for fighting being on here thank you
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thank you bro okay there's a method to my madness today we're gonna get into the second part of
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this rob reiner's made a new film about christian national christian nationalism which is like the
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new biggest domestic terrorism aspect i want to bring in liz you're now listen so i've had uh
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liz you're our hammer over in the traditional side of the catholic church ma'am talk to me we've
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been the ngos and all this stuff about uh about the uh uh catholic charities and catholic charities
00:25:00.340
taking money from the government to uh reinforce and exacerbate the invasion of our country
00:25:05.620
what is going on with the catholic church in this regard ma'am well you know they their need catholic
00:25:11.140
charities is no longer state catholic or charitable um it has become an arm of the government it is the
00:25:19.540
cash become a cash cow making hundreds of millions of dollars and what i believe in many catholics who watch
00:25:27.940
your show believe is facilitating human trafficking and the drug cartels we've got catholic agencies
00:25:36.100
ngos catholic charities catholic relief services caritas international they're on both sides of the
00:25:43.540
border facilitating in it with the un with the soros organizations with all the radical leftist organizations
00:25:52.180
to bring people over the border um they're making millions and you know catholic charities was created
00:26:00.100
to help the poor and that was money from the people in the pew to help the poor it was never envisioned
00:26:07.540
until i would argue um barack obama and joe bernardine as a um you know sub agency of a federal government
00:26:17.220
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catholic relief catholic charities you have all these groups that are no longer really catholic
00:33:09.220
they're progressive left working with source look they're assisting the invasion of our country
00:33:13.140
working with the united nations you and your team of traditional catholics that come up with an
00:33:17.300
alternative what is it ma'am okay it's called a platform called complicitclergy.com and it's a bunch of
00:33:25.620
activists traditional catholics faithful catholics who are starting to coalesce building the catholic
00:33:31.780
voice against leftist bishops and or the silent ones and they're speaking out against clergy sex
00:33:38.820
abuse transparency and financing and now our real concern steve is what catholic charities has been
00:33:48.020
doing on the border facilitating human trafficking and the drug cartel and we've made it very easy
00:33:55.220
because we know the catholics in the war room are motivated to get involved go to catholicclergy.com
00:34:04.020
where it says take action click on that and you can fill out an email protesting what's going on
00:34:12.180
and telling the bishops and the catholic church to get out of the border illegal border business and it
00:34:19.140
will go directly to your diocese and to your bishop it's a way to start communicating we're going to use
00:34:27.540
it for bills we want to see bills that in congress that are taking away this funding for these ngos it's
00:34:36.980
absolutely essential because if the ngos are pulled out of this business it's going to make it extremely
00:34:42.980
difficult for the government to continue to push millions over the border look this we were talking
00:34:50.500
about this steve lest we forget that it was 19 illegal alien terrorists brought this country to its knees
00:34:59.860
in 2001 and we've yet to recover from that now we're talking about exponentially hundreds of thousands of
00:35:08.340
mohammed attas chinese spies hiding in this country you know i've read all the inspector general reports
00:35:16.660
on what's going on in the border it is they're gone nobody knows where any of they're not being tracked
00:35:22.820
nobody knows where they are and with these ngos like catholic charities this has become a cottage industry
00:35:31.300
and it's a massive government slush fund and with catholic charities becoming a cash cow for the
00:35:39.220
government we are going to have to insist when you say when you say hang on hang on when you say
00:35:44.980
when you say catholic charities this will be sure you just made a comment that you believe they're
00:35:48.900
complicit in assisting with sex trafficking and the drug cartels that's a that's a pretty bold claim
00:35:55.620
liz your because this is people at parishes in the second collection that are are giving their their
00:36:01.860
money to this along with obviously the government they've got it set up through obama that they're
00:36:05.940
on the government payroll now taking billions of dollars a year but it's also people in the second
00:36:09.940
collection you know they put the envelope around they say hey it's you know one week it's peter's pence
00:36:15.940
the next week it's catholic charities how do you make such a bold statement they're involved in sex
00:36:20.580
trafficking and assisting the cartels in drug trafficking well i'm sure you remember in the
00:36:26.660
trump administration when the trump administration wisely decided to do dna testing and separated
00:36:34.820
children from their parents to do their testing they found that one third of the children did not
00:36:41.060
belong to the people who were bringing them across the border um so you can't tell me as as somebody who is
00:36:49.380
providing documents providing money providing cards um examining as these people are coming across the
00:36:56.340
border um these you know are people this is a massive massive they say a hundred thousand children
00:37:04.980
unaccompanied minor children are missing they're not even looking for these children catholic charities
00:37:10.420
is busing them and dumping them it's a it's you know as many have said it's a uber illegal operation
00:37:16.900
um and so my concern is all these you know people that they've quickly hired they know darn well what's
00:37:25.460
happening and what's going on and give give oh hang on give that stat give that stat one more time from from
00:37:32.180
because biden specifically put out an executive order you cannot check for dna tell tell people what we
00:37:41.940
found out in the trump administration the day he came into office he stopped that and they found that
00:37:48.980
one third of the children did not belong to the adults who were bringing them across the border steve
00:37:56.180
this is an app you read these oig reports it is a total nightmare this is this is a fire that is going to
00:38:04.980
lit this country um just in an explosion furthermore what is going to be happening it is this permanent
00:38:13.380
um poor class of people children from 157 countries we don't have teachers from you know teaching
00:38:20.740
languages from you know 157 countries um we don't even know where these children are we're dumping them
00:38:28.980
with people that that the administration the biden administration is somebody who's been in child
00:38:34.020
welfare this is just mind-boggling to me the biden administration is dumping unaccompanied minor
00:38:40.340
children with sponsors that have not had backgrounds have not had any criminal checks they haven't even
00:38:46.740
examined the homes these children are being left at um they never call these children back they never
00:38:53.620
check to see if they're in their homes who these people are it is you know to me you know there's there's
00:39:00.100
just no coming back from this unless these people are deported under um the next trump administration
00:39:07.460
so you know those of us who are catholics who you know in the old days love catholic charities and
00:39:13.620
catholic charities did the true work of helping poor people right it was from the hard work of you know the
00:39:21.300
people in the pews who gave gave to catholic charities that doesn't happen anymore what happens now is
00:39:28.660
they're getting a handout from the biden administration in carrying out their just illegal evil malevolent
00:39:39.460
policies that are just going to be a disaster for the country and you know if you if you read this letter
00:39:47.700
from the ex-fbi um supervisors who are who wrote congress saying they said it would be difficult to
00:39:55.700
overstate the danger represented by the presence inside of our borders of a multi-division army of
00:40:04.500
young single males from hostile nations i mean this is you read that letter and you know i've you know
00:40:12.500
told you i've worked with two of those agents on high profile cases they're the the finest men the
00:40:19.460
finest patriots and they are extremely you know they're waving the red flag it's flashing red in
00:40:26.180
the country and um you know the only way that we can do something is to cut off the funding to these
00:40:34.900
ngos i'm really i'm just pleading with catholics out there to um go to our website complicitclergy.com
00:40:42.500
um track you know go to your bishop we're making as easy as possible hang on a second okay slowly
00:40:51.220
hang on because first she said catholic clergy i just want to make sure we get the right website
00:40:55.460
it's complicit clergy complicit clergy complicit liz you're the liz you're actually got so worked up
00:41:02.980
so worked up she gave the wrong website so it's complicit clergy all one word it's such a disaster steve
00:41:09.780
i mean it's just you know it's yeah liz i'm gonna play this rob brown i say i just i just want to hit
00:41:16.980
one more point you've spent your professional career you spent your professional career combating
00:41:24.900
child trafficking sex trafficking and particularly the damage that it does do you believe that a
00:41:32.820
significant part of what we're seeing at the southern border is directly tied to uh sex trafficking
00:41:39.300
overall and particularly the aspect of child sex trafficking absolutely we already know that
00:41:45.700
from tara rodas the whistleblower and that's only one whistleblower absolutely that's they've been
00:41:51.860
coming over the border in droves um there is a demand the united states has the biggest demand for
00:41:57.780
sex trafficking victims in the world um and this is um cheap um victims are just lining up across you
00:42:06.740
know and just and they're dumping them with predators and there's no safety net there's no protection this
00:42:13.620
is a huge business for the cartels it's much more lucrative than the drug cartel much more because
00:42:22.900
these victims are used over sold over and over again um we have you know just we thought human trafficking
00:42:30.900
and sex trafficking was a problem before um you know it you know and in donald trump did more than
00:42:37.380
anybody else to to stem and to prosecute these cases um after three years of joe biden it's katie by the
00:42:44.980
door it's it's just a nightmare so it's big business and uh they're pouring over the borders and we know it
00:42:52.980
we've seen it and look at the oig report it talks about it i tell you uh we know what some of the
00:43:01.860
clear and present dangers are to this nation of course rob reiner a filmmaker believes that the
00:43:07.060
clear and present danger is christian nationalism let's play some cuts from his uh this interview
00:43:12.420
he did and liz uh i'll stop it a part way through and you and i can make some commentary let's go ahead
00:43:17.140
and play it i do to do god and country about christian nationalism as a documentary because obviously
00:43:22.660
you're really really really well known for your fantastic films well you know i i've kind of known
00:43:29.940
about this movement for for quite a while i mean back in the in the late 70s early 80s norman lear
00:43:36.500
launched an organization called people for the american way which focused on this idea that uh the christian
00:43:43.620
right was going to dictate uh what we should listen to uh what we should not listen to and uh it was very
00:43:51.380
disturbing to him and as time went by uh i saw this movement grow but i didn't realize how powerful
00:43:59.220
it was and how well organized and well-funded it was until i uh read this book called the power
00:44:05.060
worshipers by uh by catherine stewart and i then realized that this is uh taken root far more uh far
00:44:13.780
more deeply than i had ever thought so you mentioned norman lear just for our international audience just
00:44:18.500
want to point out he was the great tv pioneer creator of all sorts of things um including all
00:44:24.420
in the family and he recently died at the grand old age of 101 um he was that was your breakthrough
00:44:31.700
series that that television series but back to this because we'll talk about him in a little bit
00:44:36.340
you know we've all known about the power of america's you know right-wing fringe it's christian
00:44:43.060
evangelicals how they helped propel trump of all people uh into the white house but i think for me
00:44:48.980
what was so new about what you did was the notion of nationalism and particularly how that really was
00:44:56.980
on display at the insurrection at the capitol i'd never focused on all those imageries that you show
00:45:04.260
and you focus on all those people waving crosses and speaking bible verses and the like
00:45:09.860
yes well you know the interesting thing is that it you know they they they go into the guise of a
00:45:17.220
religious movement but it really isn't it's a political movement it's all about gaining power
00:45:21.700
it's all about uh forcing your way of thinking on on others and you're right i mean most people didn't
00:45:28.180
focus on the fact that there was this uh christian nationalist undercurrent to the uh insurrection on january
00:45:36.020
6th but if you look closely uh not only are there that the images that you point out but there was an
00:45:42.100
organizing uh tool they organized the buses that got there uh we're not saying that every person who
00:45:48.740
stormed the capitol was a christian nationalist but it was the foundation for uh the movement on january 6th
00:45:55.620
so let me ask you what then is the proportion or the distinction between american christians and american
00:46:03.380
christian nationalists um do they work together do they work in opposition to each other well that's
00:46:11.540
a great question because when you see the documentary you'll realize that we're not bashing christianity
00:46:18.340
at all it's the exact opposite as a matter of fact we have some of the most uh conservative christian
00:46:24.820
thinkers uh theologians uh people who are devout uh to their faith uh talking about the danger of
00:46:33.060
christian nationalism not just to democracy but to christianity itself and unfortunately you have a
00:46:39.460
lot of uh well-meaning christians who uh do uh practice their faith and are devout in what they
00:46:45.620
believe getting swept up in this christian nationalist movement which is essentially as i pointed out
00:46:51.780
before a political movement not a religious movement yeah and frankly if i could paraphrase that
00:46:57.220
it's about power not religion and one of your experts in the film says if democracy gets in the way of the
00:47:03.060
uh that is uh rob reiner a well-known hollywood progressive he's the he's the one person you want
00:47:12.740
lecturing you on christianity and christian nationalism liz you're traditional catholics evangelical christians
00:47:20.100
the more devout you are the more suspect you are as a hater of democracy and quite frankly a domestic terrorist
00:47:25.940
your thoughts ma'am steve oh steve you know i'm glad he brought out norman lear because norman lear at
00:47:34.020
the end of his life um converted to catholicism his daughter um converted to catholicism when she was at
00:47:41.860
harvard and um i think at the ripe old age of a hundred he did too so i'm sure his his feelings about
00:47:48.740
christianity and catholicism uh changed as he got older and wiser um look this is all about
00:47:57.620
hollywood has lost its power it began to lose its power i believe when mel gibson had that blockbuster
00:48:06.100
a magnificent film the passion of christ and ever since then catholics christians um and we all you know
00:48:16.020
we don't separate the fact that we are um our religion from the country we love and live in
00:48:22.980
as catholics and christians we're taught to love god family and country um so there's no separation
00:48:30.900
of that and you know hollywood's been losing its power and they understand that the catholic christians
00:48:39.140
catholic nationalists christian nationalists people who love their country understand that hollywood
00:48:45.700
does not love this country and the junk and smut that it's been producing over the years has um turned
00:48:54.500
off their audience uh they can't fill um fill seats in in the movie theaters um and so you know they're
00:49:02.420
kind of left to demonize them us that's all they have to do and i might add that it's interesting it's
00:49:08.900
not that we hate movies because we saw what a blockbuster sound of freedom was um we you know
00:49:15.860
we see that those christians catholics in hollywood um have quite a following although hollywood wants to
00:49:24.740
um you know censor them um we in you know as catholics want to support those catholics that speak
00:49:31.300
um speak the truth and are great creators of art and content um so you know he's been banging this
00:49:39.860
drum forever um it's you know he's very much you know the old man hollywood is dead thank god um what
00:49:47.620
is going to replace it is going to be true and beautiful and creative and we're going to have
00:49:54.820
stories in the future real stories not reruns um and so you know um hopefully rob reiner will follow
00:50:03.860
in his um in the lead of norman lear um and at the end of his life i know i know miracles miracles
00:50:14.100
you're so good um but you know he brought up my mentor and oh yeah um and so and so um you know
00:50:23.300
i i think this is just you know disney's gone and we're we're we're you know walking with our feet
00:50:29.380
and speaking with our feet we walk we don't go to movies that have you know that have people
00:50:36.740
by the way mother mother cabrini's coming out there's all kind of great films here in the near
00:50:42.180
future yes liz we got to bounce but complicitclergy.com is that where people go complicitclergy.com
00:50:50.180
yes and you'll hear more about it from us and we're going to be doing a lot of exciting things
00:50:55.380
and really moving the needle to protect children and make the catholic hierarchy accountable
00:51:04.580
one of my mentors liz you're as i say she's tough as boot leather with a heart of gold
00:51:09.300
liz thank you so much honor always honored to have you on here ma'am thank you complicit clergy
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