Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 483： Trump Speaks On The Biden Border Invasion

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.260 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:18.240 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just

00:00:24.160 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:28.900 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the

00:00:33.340 fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your

00:00:40.360 host Stephen K Bannon okay welcome back uh Thursday 29 February year of alert 2024 very special show

00:00:50.800 today I want to go immediately to uh Saban Howard we got Bill Gertz Ben Harnwell others on deck a lot

00:00:58.340 to go through obviously a day of explosive news but I want to go to Saban Howard who joins us from

00:01:03.700 the United Kingdom uh in the continual process of getting this incredible uh monument the World War

00:01:11.300 I monument ready to uh to actually be unveiled here in the United States Saban can you just take it

00:01:17.400 walk us through where you are what are you guys working on uh and how's it going uh we are rocking

00:01:23.560 it here I'm taking the show today into uh upper consciousness levels with the art world here

00:01:28.860 and I'm in the UK at the foundry right now I'm going to take the computer in a second and I'm going

00:01:35.280 to walk down the line so you can see what we're going to deliver on September 13th of this year

00:01:40.760 uh this is a one of we have never ever seen in history a sculpture that shows what happens when

00:01:47.760 soldiers leave home enter into conflict and come home and so this is the soldier's journey

00:01:55.420 it is a 60 foot long bronze wall that is meant to celebrate the United States of America and

00:02:02.880 specifically the veterans historically that have served from World War I till present day

00:02:08.700 so let me give you a show you guys are the first to see this globally I am in the foundry

00:02:14.840 where we have been working on this thing since almost 2021 and let's go for a ride guys

00:02:22.220 so I'm going to walk down the line I'm about halfway and we're going to start at the beginning

00:02:31.840 so you can see what's been going on

00:02:35.540 super dramatic a lot of action not a boring sculpture and that was the mission make something

00:02:46.260 that excites people let's start first scene right here it's the dad saying goodbye to his daughter

00:02:51.540 and she hands him the helmet the mom stands behind the next scene the mom holds the dad

00:03:00.380 holds that arm and on the other side are the soldiers that link with him and pull him forward

00:03:10.060 into the brotherhood of arms gets called forward

00:03:13.680 oh look at this these are real uniforms that we use with the models

00:03:21.360 we sculpted them we even found photographs from some of the soldiers families in those pockets

00:03:28.580 it's a black soldier with a French helmet everything is historical correct rifles

00:03:36.340 and now we're going to jump across to the battle scene

00:03:40.060 battle scenes is incredibly kinetic look at this

00:03:45.740 next figure is charging full tilt let's have a look

00:03:57.440 so what I tried to do is something that's really visceral

00:04:01.460 shows the human drama of what battle is

00:04:11.300 these figures are slightly over life size

00:04:18.840 they were all done from life

00:04:24.000 and you're looking at around six to seven hundred hours of modeling

00:04:28.740 in the studio and then it comes to a foundry where they're chopped apart

00:04:32.560 and sculpted

00:04:34.760 in bronze

00:04:37.220 it's a real process

00:04:39.400 so I'm going to look down the pike now

00:04:40.860 look at this how long this thing is

00:04:45.080 hey Saban for our radio and podcast audience I just want to describe

00:04:53.560 we're seeing the actual end result of your sculpture

00:04:57.360 why did we have to

00:04:59.260 why are you doing this from England

00:05:00.740 explain to our audience why

00:05:02.200 you're in the United Kingdom right now

00:05:04.420 we're not doing this in Camden, New Jersey

00:05:06.420 I really really wish that I could have done it in the US

00:05:10.380 I spent four months

00:05:11.840 I traveled all over the US

00:05:14.000 I visited all these foundries

00:05:16.380 and it's a shame

00:05:18.720 but we don't have the craftsmanship anymore in our country

00:05:23.880 so you need to have more creativity

00:05:27.100 when you approach a project of this magnitude

00:05:29.700 I think we cast this what Tom how many 400 parts

00:05:34.220 450 parts are cast

00:05:38.520 because you can't take these figures and just

00:05:40.600 you know

00:05:41.600 go through a process where it's a figure

00:05:44.160 each figure is approximately six to eight cuts

00:05:47.120 and

00:05:48.660 so I went to these foundries

00:05:50.780 and they were like cookie cutter

00:05:53.380 in terms of how they're going to go through the process

00:05:55.740 and you can't do that when you have something that has to be done

00:05:59.700 at such a high level aesthetically

00:06:01.500 so I traveled the globe

00:06:04.860 and I ended up in the UK

00:06:06.120 and

00:06:06.800 I don't want to see this continue

00:06:10.300 I want to see foundries in the United States

00:06:13.060 I want to see

00:06:14.100 our country and the world reach its potential

00:06:17.340 that's what the sculpture is about

00:06:18.600 so

00:06:18.880 that's why I had to come here

00:06:20.460 it had the aesthetics

00:06:21.240 it had the craftsmanship

00:06:22.760 and the manpower to do it

00:06:25.160 and

00:06:25.760 the process has been

00:06:28.560 you know

00:06:29.600 I'm sculpting

00:06:30.660 in the studio

00:06:32.280 and it's on a

00:06:33.260 revolver belt

00:06:34.540 where

00:06:35.140 they're casting

00:06:36.500 here in the UK

00:06:38.120 so we hit our deadline

00:06:39.500 and we'll ship it

00:06:40.860 back

00:06:41.420 this summer

00:06:42.560 and install it

00:06:43.680 in August

00:06:44.160 and

00:06:44.500 by September 13th

00:06:46.440 we'll be ready to show it to the people

00:06:47.980 I just want to make sure we have the

00:06:51.100 understanding the scale here

00:06:52.200 when you said

00:06:52.840 each

00:06:53.580 how many individual figures

00:06:55.640 are actually in the monument

00:06:58.060 how many individual figures

00:06:59.400 have you sculpted

00:07:00.840 right

00:07:01.060 38 figures

00:07:02.760 the

00:07:04.720 the

00:07:05.220 the figures are

00:07:06.840 ranging from

00:07:08.220 6 foot 6

00:07:09.120 to 7 foot 2

00:07:10.560 they are larger than the

00:07:13.460 relief itself

00:07:14.820 they break the plane

00:07:16.000 when I went through

00:07:17.200 a lot of these processes

00:07:18.280 of getting this through

00:07:19.580 Washington D.C.

00:07:21.240 the agencies that are

00:07:22.480 government approval

00:07:23.260 that you need

00:07:23.880 to get green lighted

00:07:24.840 to proceed forward

00:07:25.700 the objective was

00:07:27.700 to minimize

00:07:28.120 the potential

00:07:29.220 of what could be

00:07:30.380 in a human

00:07:32.680 figurative sculpture

00:07:34.020 so they tried to make it

00:07:34.980 as small as possible

00:07:35.980 and I refused

00:07:36.660 I drew a line in the sand

00:07:37.880 and said

00:07:38.180 you cannot make the figure

00:07:39.460 smaller than

00:07:40.240 6 foot 6

00:07:41.380 because when you put

00:07:42.680 something outside

00:07:43.460 it's going to

00:07:44.160 diminish in scale

00:07:45.320 and that's not the way

00:07:46.660 we want to present

00:07:47.360 our soldiers

00:07:48.240 to the world

00:07:48.980 so 38 figures

00:07:51.720 requires

00:07:52.700 a tremendous

00:07:53.340 amount

00:07:53.880 of like

00:07:56.240 manual labor

00:07:58.000 this is

00:07:58.760 18 feet

00:07:59.600 this image

00:08:00.200 that you're looking

00:08:00.680 at right now

00:08:01.380 that is

00:08:02.380 the home front

00:08:03.660 scene

00:08:04.220 and then you move

00:08:05.560 into the battle

00:08:06.260 scene next

00:08:07.020 now this has to

00:08:11.320 get attached

00:08:11.860 to a

00:08:12.760 granite

00:08:13.560 pedestal

00:08:15.720 so an engineering

00:08:17.220 system has been

00:08:18.400 created as well

00:08:19.360 to attach that

00:08:22.720 to the stone

00:08:23.760 because remember

00:08:25.220 bronze

00:08:25.880 outlives all of us

00:08:27.200 it's immortal

00:08:28.620 it's forever

00:08:29.460 let me

00:08:33.000 let me go back

00:08:33.760 to the

00:08:34.080 figure

00:08:34.540 so you have

00:08:34.840 38 figures

00:08:35.920 they average in size

00:08:37.100 from 6 feet tall

00:08:38.320 to 7 foot

00:08:39.260 7 feet

00:08:40.840 2 inches

00:08:41.740 and the reason is

00:08:42.460 is to

00:08:42.780 when they're outside

00:08:43.740 to make them look

00:08:44.780 at human scale

00:08:45.620 you said that

00:08:47.120 in the process

00:08:48.340 of doing this

00:08:48.940 that each one

00:08:49.840 I think you average

00:08:50.840 6 to 8 cuts

00:08:52.120 what does that mean

00:08:53.500 when you say

00:08:53.880 each figure

00:08:54.720 averages 6 to 8 cuts

00:08:56.300 explain to the audience

00:08:57.220 what that is

00:08:58.100 this figure behind me

00:08:59.580 alright

00:08:59.800 so

00:09:00.140 when you get this

00:09:02.280 to the shop

00:09:03.560 it's in clay

00:09:04.340 you make a mold

00:09:05.680 of it all

00:09:06.140 but then you cut

00:09:07.160 the wax

00:09:07.800 so we would cut

00:09:08.600 like the head off

00:09:09.440 we cut this off

00:09:10.920 then we might

00:09:12.360 let me bring the camera

00:09:13.440 down a little bit

00:09:14.180 cut the hand off

00:09:20.860 cut the gun here

00:09:23.240 cut the gun here

00:09:24.420 and then the leg

00:09:26.000 the leg is cut

00:09:27.160 here

00:09:27.820 the other leg

00:09:29.680 is cut there

00:09:30.500 so what do we got

00:09:31.340 already

00:09:31.800 1

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00:09:36.620 5

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00:09:40.440 8

00:09:42.320 9

00:09:44.000 10

00:09:45.060 that's 10 cuts

00:09:46.080 on this figure

00:09:46.760 alone

00:09:47.140 that all then

00:09:48.540 gets cast

00:09:49.440 it's quarter inch

00:09:51.640 thick

00:09:52.220 in bronze

00:09:52.940 and then it has

00:09:54.520 to get

00:09:54.860 reassembled

00:09:56.120 each figure

00:09:58.220 then has to be

00:09:59.040 mounted

00:09:59.400 properly

00:10:00.260 with its

00:10:01.180 surrounding

00:10:01.700 partners

00:10:03.040 on each side

00:10:04.100 see this

00:10:05.100 everything

00:10:06.600 is notched

00:10:08.780 together

00:10:09.160 the tolerance

00:10:10.460 for spacing

00:10:11.480 is about

00:10:12.660 a quarter

00:10:13.100 of an inch

00:10:13.660 sometimes

00:10:14.300 and less

00:10:15.380 so you're

00:10:17.060 looking at

00:10:17.840 one sculpture

00:10:19.740 made up

00:10:21.140 of many pieces

00:10:22.440 it goes back

00:10:23.960 to the idea

00:10:24.600 of unity

00:10:25.380 unity of the universe

00:10:26.600 an order

00:10:27.800 this is not

00:10:28.680 chaos

00:10:29.340 this is not

00:10:31.060 alienation

00:10:32.240 there's only

00:10:33.560 one figure

00:10:34.300 that doesn't

00:10:34.860 interact

00:10:35.500 with the

00:10:36.260 figures that

00:10:36.800 are next

00:10:37.280 to it

00:10:37.700 and that's

00:10:38.440 the shell

00:10:39.020 shocked figure

00:10:39.800 let's take

00:10:40.320 you over there

00:10:40.840 I think

00:10:41.080 this is

00:10:41.360 important

00:10:41.720 to show

00:10:42.280 because the

00:10:42.980 shell shocked

00:10:43.460 figure

00:10:43.760 is the dad

00:10:44.800 and he's

00:10:45.900 a representation

00:10:46.460 of the change

00:10:47.460 of world war

00:10:49.200 one

00:10:49.620 flip around

00:10:51.600 so behind

00:10:53.600 me is the

00:10:54.180 shell shocked

00:10:54.700 figure

00:10:55.080 I used

00:10:57.200 an army

00:10:57.740 ranger

00:10:58.160 for the

00:10:58.680 portrait

00:10:59.020 of the

00:10:59.360 head

00:10:59.600 and that

00:11:13.540 confusion

00:11:14.140 on his

00:11:14.540 face

00:11:14.840 is not

00:11:15.180 only

00:11:15.380 from being

00:11:15.780 shell shocked

00:11:16.360 but it's

00:11:16.680 also the

00:11:17.140 change

00:11:17.480 that happened

00:11:18.000 on the

00:11:18.920 globe

00:11:19.180 in terms

00:11:19.620 of how

00:11:19.900 we saw

00:11:20.400 the world

00:11:21.340 it's a

00:11:23.500 gassed

00:11:23.820 soldier

00:11:24.300 with a

00:11:25.060 nurse

00:11:25.360 and on

00:11:31.220 the ground

00:11:31.800 we have

00:11:34.840 helmets

00:11:36.600 that show

00:11:38.720 the soldiers

00:11:39.600 that are no

00:11:40.700 longer with us

00:11:41.480 that are lost

00:11:42.140 that were

00:11:43.540 never brought

00:11:44.080 back

00:11:44.300 on the process

00:11:50.120 go ahead

00:11:51.860 go ahead

00:11:52.420 what I tried

00:11:53.640 to do

00:11:53.900 I want you

00:11:54.260 to see

00:11:54.540 this

00:11:54.780 this is

00:11:55.260 a dying

00:11:56.000 soldier

00:11:56.420 it's taken

00:11:56.900 from an

00:11:57.280 idea of

00:11:57.660 a pieta

00:11:58.360 in an

00:12:00.180 Italian concept

00:12:01.100 of the

00:12:01.520 dying

00:12:01.780 Christ

00:12:02.280 but this

00:12:04.080 is humanity

00:12:04.660 the highest

00:12:06.000 head there

00:12:06.560 is a

00:12:06.960 marine

00:12:07.300 who served

00:12:07.780 for 23

00:12:08.400 years

00:12:08.960 saw combat

00:12:10.800 in Iraq

00:12:11.460 that's an

00:12:11.940 actual

00:12:12.320 portrait

00:12:12.780 of a

00:12:13.420 soldier

00:12:13.760 and so

00:12:15.520 I brought

00:12:16.100 the reality

00:12:16.800 of what

00:12:17.600 does it

00:12:17.860 mean to be

00:12:18.340 a soldier

00:12:18.820 and put it

00:12:20.660 in a bronze

00:12:21.160 so this

00:12:21.840 will outlive

00:12:22.480 him and

00:12:23.680 all of us

00:12:24.340 coming around

00:12:25.600 to you

00:12:25.960 go ahead

00:12:27.180 Steve

00:12:27.520 I'm with

00:12:28.200 you

00:12:28.520 just for

00:12:30.900 the audience

00:12:31.280 in the

00:12:31.660 process

00:12:32.180 of

00:12:32.700 actually

00:12:34.000 making

00:12:34.860 these figures

00:12:35.480 as we

00:12:35.880 see today

00:12:36.540 how much

00:12:37.660 time has

00:12:38.140 it taken

00:12:38.600 for each

00:12:39.940 you have

00:12:40.280 the 38

00:12:40.780 figures

00:12:41.240 how much

00:12:41.720 time is

00:12:42.160 actually

00:12:42.480 taking

00:12:43.040 taken

00:12:44.140 for the

00:12:45.100 crew

00:12:45.420 in England

00:12:46.080 to actually

00:12:47.140 cast

00:12:47.760 each of

00:12:48.640 the figures

00:12:49.140 what are

00:12:50.360 we looking

00:12:50.720 at

00:12:51.080 I'm

00:12:53.660 talking to

00:12:54.320 a foundry

00:12:54.800 guy here

00:12:55.220 we're talking

00:12:55.680 three to

00:12:56.300 four months

00:12:56.920 per figure

00:12:57.900 to cast

00:13:00.460 it

00:13:00.640 and then

00:13:01.640 you're

00:13:01.800 looking at

00:13:02.340 an assembly

00:13:02.920 process

00:13:03.500 on top

00:13:04.120 of that

00:13:04.500 unbelievable

00:13:08.580 yeah

00:13:10.240 you're not

00:13:10.620 going to

00:13:13.840 see this

00:13:14.140 anywhere else

00:13:14.680 as you

00:13:16.760 as you

00:13:18.620 as the

00:13:19.140 artist

00:13:19.500 and the

00:13:19.920 creator

00:13:20.260 here

00:13:20.540 as you've

00:13:21.080 seen it

00:13:21.400 now

00:13:21.820 starting to

00:13:23.020 come together

00:13:23.700 in the

00:13:24.620 you know

00:13:25.020 in the

00:13:25.360 you know

00:13:26.280 the dimensions

00:13:27.760 that you

00:13:28.220 have it

00:13:28.520 and the

00:13:28.720 scale

00:13:29.000 that you

00:13:29.320 have it

00:13:29.680 is it

00:13:30.120 is it

00:13:30.740 what you

00:13:31.180 hope to

00:13:31.960 overcome

00:13:32.200 I know

00:13:32.540 we haven't

00:13:32.940 installed it

00:13:33.560 we have

00:13:34.440 all the

00:13:34.720 process

00:13:35.080 yet to

00:13:35.480 go

00:13:35.780 but

00:13:36.700 as you

00:13:37.560 now see

00:13:38.120 it

00:13:38.320 manifest

00:13:38.760 itself

00:13:39.300 is it

00:13:40.060 do you

00:13:40.920 think

00:13:41.140 you've

00:13:41.360 accomplished

00:13:41.760 what you

00:13:42.200 set out

00:13:42.680 artistically

00:13:43.480 to accomplish

00:13:44.240 you're going

00:13:46.280 to laugh

00:13:46.580 when I

00:13:46.780 tell you

00:13:47.020 this

00:13:47.280 I'm a

00:13:48.320 little

00:13:48.460 shocked

00:13:48.880 to tell

00:13:49.240 you the

00:13:49.520 truth

00:13:49.820 because

00:13:50.080 it's

00:13:50.340 it

00:13:51.080 looks

00:13:51.480 very

00:13:52.180 very

00:13:52.680 Italian

00:13:54.360 Renaissance

00:13:54.860 to me

00:13:56.240 but it

00:13:57.400 has a

00:13:57.800 real

00:13:58.020 modern

00:13:58.520 contemporary

00:13:59.120 flavor

00:13:59.920 to it

00:14:00.500 and it's

00:14:01.980 kind of

00:14:02.260 like

00:14:02.420 you know

00:14:02.680 I started

00:14:03.280 making art

00:14:03.740 when I was

00:14:04.040 19 years

00:14:04.800 old

00:14:05.120 I started

00:14:05.700 zero

00:14:06.080 freaking

00:14:06.500 donut

00:14:06.820 couldn't

00:14:07.240 draw

00:14:07.500 at all

00:14:08.120 zero

00:14:08.500 zero

00:14:08.880 my

00:14:09.620 ex

00:14:11.180 girlfriend

00:14:11.980 said

00:14:12.540 I can

00:14:13.300 draw

00:14:13.460 better

00:14:13.720 than

00:14:13.940 you

00:14:14.160 and so

00:14:14.960 I came

00:14:15.540 from zero

00:14:16.080 in terms

00:14:16.900 of artistic

00:14:17.360 talent

00:14:17.800 and my

00:14:18.800 dream was

00:14:20.880 let's put

00:14:21.820 Renaissance art

00:14:23.160 back on the

00:14:23.860 map

00:14:24.120 and I was

00:14:25.140 very naive

00:14:25.640 this is back

00:14:26.240 in 82

00:14:26.740 and

00:14:27.840 I'm

00:14:29.220 actually

00:14:29.700 shocked

00:14:30.260 to see

00:14:32.120 this

00:14:32.500 but being

00:14:34.860 who I am

00:14:35.600 I want

00:14:36.000 to continue

00:14:36.540 doing this

00:14:37.020 so this

00:14:37.360 is the

00:14:37.680 first of

00:14:38.140 many

00:14:39.140 other

00:14:39.660 pieces

00:14:39.960 I want

00:14:40.280 to do

00:14:40.460 another

00:14:40.680 piece

00:14:41.000 as big

00:14:41.960 that celebrates

00:14:42.980 our potential

00:14:43.640 as human

00:14:44.140 beings

00:14:44.440 in this

00:14:44.720 country

00:14:45.040 how much

00:14:48.420 longer

00:14:48.840 it sounds

00:14:50.220 like you guys

00:14:50.640 are working

00:14:50.960 24-7

00:14:51.780 how much

00:14:52.280 longer

00:14:52.600 is this

00:14:53.100 part of

00:14:53.400 the process

00:14:53.920 going to

00:14:54.280 take

00:14:54.580 in the

00:14:54.900 United

00:14:55.120 Kingdom

00:14:55.500 4 more

00:15:00.400 months

00:15:00.760 now

00:15:01.060 and we

00:15:01.980 got

00:15:02.280 18

00:15:02.940 feet

00:15:03.320 to go

00:15:03.700 18

00:15:04.120 so

00:15:05.060 subtract

00:15:05.940 58

00:15:08.320 and a

00:15:08.880 half

00:15:09.180 that's

00:15:09.500 total

00:15:09.760 length

00:15:10.120 minus

00:15:10.420 18

00:15:10.880 and

00:15:11.880 you

00:15:12.140 get

00:15:12.440 50

00:15:13.380 right

00:15:16.780 that's

00:15:17.360 right

00:15:17.520 so you

00:15:18.180 have

00:15:18.320 18

00:15:18.580 feet

00:15:19.160 to go

00:15:19.500 that means

00:15:20.280 you have

00:15:20.500 done

00:15:20.680 40

00:15:21.120 my math

00:15:23.220 is correct

00:15:23.640 so you're

00:15:26.920 about

00:15:27.100 two-thirds

00:15:28.200 of the way

00:15:28.600 through

00:15:28.820 yeah

00:15:29.780 yeah

00:15:30.580 it's

00:15:31.080 I'm very

00:15:32.800 proud of

00:15:33.180 it but

00:15:33.420 you know

00:15:33.700 I want

00:15:34.920 to say

00:15:35.140 something

00:15:35.380 here

00:15:35.700 I was

00:15:36.780 not

00:15:37.060 who I

00:15:37.780 am

00:15:37.960 today

00:15:38.320 I

00:15:38.980 came to

00:15:39.900 this

00:15:40.060 project

00:15:40.380 with a

00:15:40.740 great

00:15:41.060 amount

00:15:41.560 of

00:15:42.080 aesthetics

00:15:43.320 that was

00:15:44.340 esoteric

00:15:45.100 and I

00:15:45.540 jumped

00:15:45.740 into this

00:15:46.040 project

00:15:46.380 and I

00:15:47.040 learned

00:15:47.260 something

00:15:47.560 the biggest

00:15:47.980 thing I

00:15:48.360 learned

00:15:48.640 was to

00:15:48.980 be in

00:15:49.320 service

00:15:49.660 of

00:15:49.920 something

00:15:50.220 larger

00:15:50.540 than

00:15:50.800 yourself

00:15:51.220 because

00:15:51.880 that gives

00:15:52.280 you a

00:15:52.560 real

00:15:52.740 power

00:15:53.160 it gives

00:15:53.620 you a

00:15:53.880 sense

00:15:54.160 of

00:15:54.620 purpose

00:15:55.120 and a

00:15:55.680 sense

00:15:55.880 of

00:15:56.040 connection

00:15:56.500 to

00:15:56.960 something

00:15:57.240 way

00:15:57.520 bigger

00:15:57.840 than

00:15:58.060 yourself

00:15:58.420 and that's

00:15:59.360 the biggest

00:15:59.680 lesson I

00:16:00.160 got from

00:16:00.620 this

00:16:00.900 I think

00:16:02.460 that's

00:16:02.700 something that

00:16:03.100 happens in

00:16:03.520 the military

00:16:04.140 it's a

00:16:05.220 sacredness

00:16:05.800 that you

00:16:06.100 belong to

00:16:06.680 something

00:16:07.000 bigger than

00:16:07.600 yourself

00:16:08.160 and I'm

00:16:09.660 honored

00:16:11.100 I'm really

00:16:11.780 honored

00:16:12.280 and I'm

00:16:12.880 also humbled

00:16:13.800 by what

00:16:14.960 I've done

00:16:15.420 Saban

00:16:18.940 how much

00:16:19.400 longer are

00:16:19.900 you going

00:16:20.160 to remain

00:16:20.580 there until

00:16:21.360 it's actually

00:16:22.100 all done

00:16:22.740 and ready

00:16:25.640 to come

00:16:26.000 back to

00:16:26.340 the United

00:16:26.580 States

00:16:26.960 I'm not

00:16:29.320 here that

00:16:30.080 much because

00:16:30.780 these guys

00:16:31.480 are really

00:16:31.980 super competent

00:16:32.740 I came

00:16:34.320 over

00:16:34.620 I was here

00:16:35.080 for two

00:16:35.380 days now

00:16:35.820 we checked

00:16:36.240 a bunch

00:16:36.620 of things

00:16:37.120 I'm going

00:16:38.160 to go

00:16:38.340 to Italy

00:16:38.840 for the

00:16:39.180 weekend

00:16:39.420 because I

00:16:39.840 need to

00:16:40.120 be inspired

00:16:40.900 and continue

00:16:41.420 to get

00:16:42.040 educated

00:16:42.540 on what

00:16:42.960 we need

00:16:43.240 to play

00:16:43.580 forward

00:16:44.020 in this

00:16:44.700 world

00:16:45.040 I'm going

00:16:45.540 to return

00:16:45.920 Monday

00:16:46.380 I'll stay

00:16:47.020 till

00:16:47.240 Wednesday

00:16:47.640 and then

00:16:48.420 I will

00:16:48.660 probably

00:16:49.040 come back

00:16:50.060 in about

00:16:50.500 two three

00:16:50.960 weeks

00:16:51.320 and I'll

00:16:51.700 do another

00:16:52.180 repeat

00:16:53.820 and whatever

00:16:55.080 I needed

00:16:55.560 I come

00:16:56.000 in

00:16:56.260 but this

00:16:57.340 foundry

00:16:57.740 is incredibly

00:16:58.720 competent

00:16:59.540 it's

00:17:00.580 amazing

00:17:02.140 because you

00:17:03.040 have people

00:17:03.520 that founded

00:17:04.300 it

00:17:04.580 how many

00:17:05.120 years ago

00:17:05.560 Tom

00:17:05.820 was this

00:17:06.180 foundry

00:17:06.460 40 years

00:17:08.440 ago

00:17:08.760 and now

00:17:09.340 you actually

00:17:09.880 have children

00:17:10.860 of the

00:17:11.720 founders

00:17:12.460 working here

00:17:13.160 so it's a

00:17:13.580 craft

00:17:14.020 that's being

00:17:14.720 passed along

00:17:15.620 and that's

00:17:16.940 what I'm

00:17:17.300 talking about

00:17:17.840 that's what

00:17:18.600 needs to

00:17:19.100 return to

00:17:19.720 our country

00:17:20.380 incredible

00:17:23.920 Sabin how do

00:17:25.120 people follow

00:17:25.680 this how do

00:17:26.400 they go to

00:17:26.680 your site

00:17:27.160 your social

00:17:27.660 media all

00:17:28.140 of it

00:17:28.340 we'll get

00:17:28.640 back with

00:17:29.000 you next

00:17:29.300 week before

00:17:29.740 you come

00:17:30.040 back after

00:17:30.680 you rejuvenate

00:17:32.260 in renaissance

00:17:34.720 Italy

00:17:35.240 that's right

00:17:36.420 we'll have

00:17:36.820 you come

00:17:38.040 back on

00:17:38.520 where do

00:17:39.340 people get

00:17:39.800 you in

00:17:40.040 the interim

00:17:40.340 just go

00:17:41.460 look at

00:17:42.020 sabinhoward.com

00:17:43.900 or go to

00:17:44.900 sabinhowardsculpture

00:17:46.040 on Instagram

00:17:47.140 sabin fantastic

00:17:51.280 send our

00:17:52.360 regards to

00:17:52.900 the workers

00:17:53.380 in the

00:17:53.860 foundry

00:17:54.280 just absolutely

00:17:55.000 amazing

00:17:55.480 and very

00:17:56.820 gratifying to

00:17:57.500 see this

00:17:57.900 humbling

00:17:58.840 thank you

00:17:59.960 thank you

00:18:00.740 Steve

00:18:01.080 thanks

00:18:03.680 okay we

00:18:04.120 cover this

00:18:04.560 project from

00:18:05.260 beginning to

00:18:06.060 end because

00:18:06.600 it's so

00:18:07.000 monumental

00:18:07.780 and so

00:18:08.600 incredible

00:18:09.840 it'll be

00:18:10.220 September 13th

00:18:11.200 of this year

00:18:11.620 in Washington

00:18:12.320 D.C.

00:18:12.900 of course

00:18:13.060 we're going

00:18:13.320 to cover

00:18:14.460 it non-stop

00:18:15.100 from something

00:18:16.900 so powerful

00:18:17.680 and reinforcing

00:18:18.520 to something

00:18:19.200 so deadly

00:18:21.480 and concerning

00:18:22.100 Bill Gertz

00:18:22.820 Bill you've got

00:18:24.080 to walk our

00:18:24.540 audience through

00:18:25.020 it you're the

00:18:25.620 most informed

00:18:26.680 individual and

00:18:28.840 you have been

00:18:29.240 for many decades

00:18:30.080 about what's

00:18:31.540 really going on

00:18:32.180 in the imperial

00:18:32.760 capital about

00:18:34.340 the Chinese

00:18:34.820 Communist Party

00:18:35.460 and the Chinese

00:18:35.960 Communist Party's

00:18:36.720 rise as a

00:18:37.520 military power

00:18:38.360 this article you

00:18:39.960 put out I want

00:18:40.540 you to go

00:18:40.820 through it

00:18:41.240 if I read

00:18:41.920 if I read

00:18:42.740 this and if

00:18:43.720 I interpret

00:18:44.440 this correctly

00:18:45.240 this issue

00:18:47.180 they had with

00:18:47.700 Russia a couple

00:18:48.300 weeks ago

00:18:48.740 is nothing

00:18:49.260 compared to

00:18:49.780 this once

00:18:50.300 again the

00:18:50.740 CCP is so

00:18:51.900 far ahead of

00:18:52.460 the KGB

00:18:53.000 and a really

00:18:54.280 a clear and

00:18:54.880 present danger

00:18:55.660 to the United

00:18:57.220 States of

00:18:57.560 America

00:18:57.860 or citizens

00:18:58.460 can you walk

00:18:59.100 us through

00:18:59.380 your reporting

00:18:59.920 over at the

00:19:00.480 Washington Times

00:19:01.600 yeah sure

00:19:02.580 hey thanks for

00:19:03.500 having me on

00:19:04.040 Steve always

00:19:04.700 good to be on

00:19:05.320 the program

00:19:05.800 this is a

00:19:07.140 really significant

00:19:08.180 development in

00:19:09.820 Chinese military

00:19:11.040 strategy and

00:19:12.840 it's based on

00:19:13.700 an Air Force

00:19:14.480 think tank

00:19:15.120 report there's

00:19:15.960 a really amazing

00:19:16.880 group down in

00:19:18.360 Huntsville Alabama

00:19:19.940 called the China

00:19:21.080 Aerospace Studies

00:19:22.140 Institute and

00:19:23.240 they produced a

00:19:24.020 report just

00:19:25.000 about a week

00:19:25.580 ago nobody's

00:19:26.600 reported on it

00:19:27.320 until now and

00:19:28.660 it it highlights

00:19:30.000 how the Chinese

00:19:31.900 People's Liberation

00:19:33.460 Army the PLA

00:19:34.480 is augmenting

00:19:36.300 its nuclear

00:19:37.420 strategy

00:19:38.100 with a new

00:19:39.380 strategy which

00:19:40.400 they call

00:19:41.020 space coercion

00:19:42.620 and that means

00:19:43.580 that it's easier

00:19:45.060 to use space

00:19:45.900 weapons they

00:19:46.900 don't cause as

00:19:47.720 much damage

00:19:48.540 collateral damage

00:19:50.000 and they are

00:19:51.680 perfecting all

00:19:53.160 several types of

00:19:54.580 anti-satellite

00:19:55.500 weapons they have

00:19:56.540 missiles that can

00:19:57.460 shoot down all

00:19:58.820 of our satellites

00:19:59.620 in all worlds

00:20:00.560 all the way up

00:20:01.300 to geosynchronous

00:20:02.960 orbit they have

00:20:04.320 cyber attack

00:20:05.080 capabilities they

00:20:05.960 have electronic

00:20:06.600 jammers and they

00:20:07.800 have robotic

00:20:08.580 satellites with

00:20:09.540 arms that can

00:20:11.200 reach out and

00:20:11.860 grab satellites and

00:20:12.980 crush them and

00:20:14.080 this is a strategic

00:20:15.320 vulnerability for the

00:20:16.500 U.S. I spoke with

00:20:17.520 a retired senior

00:20:19.600 military deterrence

00:20:21.540 specialist who told

00:20:22.820 me that this is a

00:20:24.920 significant threat

00:20:26.020 that needs to be

00:20:27.140 addressed right away

00:20:28.340 how did this catch

00:20:33.060 us by surprise I

00:20:34.180 mean you're talking

00:20:34.860 about the ability

00:20:36.040 to knock out all

00:20:36.860 communications in the

00:20:38.600 United I mean this

00:20:39.160 is like EMP this is

00:20:40.960 EMP on steroids

00:20:42.360 correct how did we

00:20:43.760 miss this until now

00:20:44.780 well under the

00:20:46.940 Biden administration

00:20:47.780 they've adopted a

00:20:49.800 basically a non

00:20:51.220 kinetic approach to

00:20:53.680 space defense here

00:20:55.500 we've created the

00:20:56.760 space force under

00:20:58.440 Trump and they

00:20:59.680 have one single

00:21:00.340 weapon they have

00:21:01.000 an electronic

00:21:01.900 jammer and here

00:21:03.500 we're facing China

00:21:05.220 and the other

00:21:05.800 aspect of this

00:21:06.880 report that it

00:21:08.000 talked about

00:21:08.700 China's fractional

00:21:10.160 orbital bombardment

00:21:11.340 system this is an

00:21:12.620 orbiting nuclear

00:21:13.840 strike capability

00:21:15.120 it's extremely

00:21:17.500 dangerous and

00:21:18.500 also extremely

00:21:19.440 unsettling in terms

00:21:21.240 of deterrence in the

00:21:23.140 theology of deterrence

00:21:24.360 you have to match

00:21:25.340 your opponent's

00:21:26.460 weapon system

00:21:27.760 we have nothing

00:21:29.000 like it

00:21:29.520 Congress was

00:21:30.760 notified a couple

00:21:32.380 weeks ago that

00:21:33.340 the Russians are

00:21:34.400 going to put a

00:21:34.900 nuke in space

00:21:35.580 the Chinese have

00:21:36.300 already tested

00:21:37.040 theirs back in

00:21:38.160 July of 2021

00:21:39.180 and this is really

00:21:40.900 a capability that

00:21:42.640 because this

00:21:44.120 orbiting bomb

00:21:45.160 orbits not around

00:21:48.020 the equator but

00:21:49.340 north and south

00:21:50.320 it's not it

00:21:51.500 can't we can't

00:21:52.560 track it our

00:21:53.340 traditional ballistic

00:21:55.020 missile tracking

00:21:55.880 systems won't be

00:21:56.800 able to get it so

00:21:57.520 they can they can

00:21:58.560 basically penetrate

00:21:59.920 our defenses and

00:22:01.180 conduct strikes and

00:22:02.640 this gives them that

00:22:03.620 coercive capability so

00:22:05.600 as they're getting

00:22:06.560 ready to go and

00:22:07.460 take Taiwan we know

00:22:08.600 this is going to

00:22:09.240 happen in the next

00:22:09.980 several years unless

00:22:11.240 they're deterred now

00:22:12.720 they're setting up a

00:22:14.040 deterrence calculus to

00:22:15.980 prevent the U.S.

00:22:17.420 from intervening in a

00:22:18.780 Taiwan scenario

00:22:19.800 walk our audience

00:22:22.740 through what do you

00:22:23.320 mean that it goes in

00:22:24.540 a different direction

00:22:25.280 it goes over the two

00:22:26.040 poles instead of going

00:22:27.060 around the equator or

00:22:28.040 going yeah it went

00:22:28.960 that way so walk us

00:22:29.860 through why why is

00:22:31.140 that so difficult

00:22:31.820 well why is it so

00:22:33.640 difficult for us to

00:22:34.600 track all of our

00:22:35.400 sensors for missile

00:22:37.120 attack are based on

00:22:38.860 a missile coming

00:22:40.280 basically east to west

00:22:42.700 rather than north to

00:22:43.760 south and also the

00:22:46.460 ability to put a

00:22:47.600 nuclear weapon in

00:22:48.620 space gives you a

00:22:50.460 precision strike

00:22:51.340 capability and this

00:22:52.520 report this air force

00:22:53.740 think tank report

00:22:54.600 talks about the

00:22:56.060 targets that they're

00:22:56.960 going to use with

00:22:57.880 this orbital nuclear

00:23:00.500 attack all of our

00:23:01.860 command and control

00:23:02.860 systems our

00:23:03.660 logistics systems and

00:23:05.380 our economic targets

00:23:06.600 so this is a in the

00:23:08.840 as I said in the

00:23:09.800 theology of deterrence

00:23:10.880 this is a really

00:23:12.000 significant development

00:23:13.260 that urgently needs

00:23:15.260 some type of response

00:23:17.100 from the U.S.

00:23:17.880 and so far I don't

00:23:18.880 see the Biden

00:23:19.460 administration doing

00:23:20.400 that they're they're

00:23:21.380 trying to make a new

00:23:22.580 detente with the

00:23:23.540 Chinese Communist Party

00:23:24.660 and China is just

00:23:26.620 going to use that to

00:23:27.620 continue building up

00:23:28.600 their forces they're

00:23:29.780 going to take over the

00:23:30.720 world unless the United

00:23:32.060 States stops them

00:23:33.180 we're we're it we're

00:23:34.380 the we're the last line

00:23:35.440 of defense for freedom

00:23:36.960 and democracy

00:23:37.660 let's go let's go back

00:23:41.340 to this did they

00:23:43.420 actually have a nuclear

00:23:44.440 weapon up there or is

00:23:46.180 this a theoretical they

00:23:47.280 could put a nuclear

00:23:48.080 weapon up there and if

00:23:49.140 they did they get

00:23:50.380 targeted this way or are

00:23:51.680 you saying is the is

00:23:53.420 the think tank and

00:23:54.260 you're reporting saying

00:23:55.060 they've actually got a

00:23:56.240 nuclear weapon orbiting

00:23:57.400 over the United States

00:23:59.220 no no this is based on

00:24:01.340 the July 2021 test of

00:24:04.920 the FOB system it's

00:24:06.040 called fractional orbital

00:24:07.000 bombardment and but this

00:24:09.160 report says this is not

00:24:11.180 going to be equipped with

00:24:12.880 a conventional warhead this

00:24:14.300 is going to be equipped

00:24:15.260 with a nuclear weapon so

00:24:16.900 basically they have

00:24:18.060 violated the outer space

00:24:19.960 treaty by preparing to

00:24:21.700 use a nuclear weapon in

00:24:23.080 space you have to test

00:24:24.780 these things first and

00:24:25.900 they were able to test it

00:24:27.340 this this warhead that

00:24:29.680 simulated warhead they

00:24:31.420 circled the earth 40,000

00:24:33.460 kilometers and then it

00:24:34.840 struck a target on earth

00:24:36.760 with precision guidance so

00:24:39.000 that's what makes it a

00:24:40.560 super threat is that it's

00:24:41.940 not just something that's

00:24:43.660 going to come near to a

00:24:44.720 target it's the ability to

00:24:46.200 maneuver and precisely go

00:24:48.240 after specific targets and

00:24:49.960 the Air Force report

00:24:51.180 talks about these targets

00:24:52.440 as command and control

00:24:53.480 systems radars sensors

00:24:55.460 things like that they

00:24:58.800 actually did they actually

00:25:00.220 test it didn't have a

00:25:01.640 warhead on it obviously

00:25:02.740 they actually tested the

00:25:04.600 delivery system itself it

00:25:06.120 was simulated okay fine

00:25:07.300 yeah it was simulated

00:25:08.100 simulation bill where did

00:25:10.580 they go to get your piece

00:25:12.620 and I take it you've got a

00:25:13.920 link to when I read a link

00:25:14.900 to the to the the China

00:25:17.380 aerospace study groups

00:25:18.500 report where do people go

00:25:19.840 yeah it's Washington

00:25:21.700 times dot com or at my

00:25:23.160 website the Gertz file dot

00:25:24.940 com it's you know I can

00:25:27.600 say this is something that

00:25:28.800 we need to counter right

00:25:30.880 away and in the strategic

00:25:33.120 calculus we have got to step

00:25:36.080 up our game or as I said

00:25:37.840 the Chinese are on the

00:25:39.080 march ideologically they're

00:25:41.000 they're out to replace the

00:25:42.960 United States and they want

00:25:45.440 to be the world hegemon and

00:25:47.100 we've got to stop them

00:25:48.300 no the CCP is the real deal

00:25:52.480 the existential threat to our

00:25:53.740 country bill Gertz once again

00:25:55.500 amazing reporting huge scoop

00:25:58.520 thank you so much for coming

00:25:59.540 on thank you Steve

00:26:01.300 think about what they targeted

00:26:05.160 they targeted economic centers

00:26:07.180 they targeted command and

00:26:09.160 control a power generation

00:26:11.240 the EMP threat all of it

00:26:13.740 the CCP is always what appears

00:26:16.480 to be one step ahead of us

00:26:18.200 when it comes to all this that

00:26:20.660 means additional turbulence

00:26:22.300 even greater than or as great

00:26:24.580 as the invasion of our southern

00:26:26.040 border which we've been

00:26:27.360 covering all day today how do

00:26:29.460 you make sure you have financial

00:26:31.080 stability and times of

00:26:32.500 turbulence where precious metals

00:26:34.460 have been there for 5,000 years

00:26:36.340 of man's history there's a

00:26:37.700 certain reason for that the

00:26:39.540 people that tell you about it

00:26:40.500 are Birchgold Philip Patrick and

00:26:41.880 his team they're the best go to

00:26:43.980 birchgold.com slash Bannon you get

00:26:46.460 all the free information at the end

00:26:48.340 of the dollar empire but more

00:26:49.620 importantly you get as you get

00:26:51.800 access to Philip Patrick and his

00:26:55.020 great team birchgold.com slash

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00:32:35.680 complete total meltdown over in Europe

00:32:37.540 right now about the situation and it's

00:32:40.260 going to come back to haunt us here on

00:32:41.580 Capitol Hill it's going to be one of the

00:32:42.800 big fights we're going to have we drew a

00:32:45.320 line in the sand today there can be no

00:32:47.100 funding for Ukraine the southern border

00:32:48.840 has been completely blown off only

00:32:50.440 President Trump I mean at the poll the

00:32:52.480 American people are outraged I went through

00:32:54.500 the the polling you know many times a day

00:32:57.820 to show President Trump now has four or

00:32:59.480 five six point lead outside the margin of

00:33:01.400 error from respectable center-left polling

00:33:05.580 organizations they're trying to blame the

00:33:09.280 MAGA Republican Party the MAGA the

00:33:12.000 Republicans in the House for this but it's

00:33:14.300 much deeper than this this is Europe's issue

00:33:16.320 they know it's been Europe's issue they got

00:33:17.980 more money in Europe they have here in the

00:33:19.380 United States it's simply a the the leaders

00:33:25.100 over there the elites over there don't want

00:33:27.460 to ever have to end up paying for

00:33:28.960 themselves and you summed it up best

00:33:30.360 yesterday is that you think the trauma

00:33:32.760 here is coming because of because for the

00:33:36.520 first time they deemed it like a Mitch

00:33:38.440 McConnell it shouldn't be lost on people

00:33:39.940 Mitch McConnell one of the reasons he

00:33:41.460 resigned and retired or is retiring is the

00:33:45.100 fact that we he broke his pick on trying to

00:33:48.200 get this thing jammed through the House and

00:33:51.300 the Senate he committed to get it done he

00:33:53.120 couldn't get it done it's not done yet and

00:33:56.160 he realizes that although he deemed it and

00:33:58.480 the elites deemed it it didn't happen Ben

00:34:00.880 Harnwell Steve good afternoon to you well

00:34:05.180 it's a strange thing isn't it I don't know

00:34:06.760 if I'm the only person who's laughing at

00:34:08.360 this but US Congress House of Representatives

00:34:13.040 and Senators are often referred to colloquially

00:34:15.300 as just basically a bunch of high-class

00:34:18.520 prostitutes so it is amusing it is amusing

00:34:21.660 when you can when you consider the fact that

00:34:24.240 the three leading contenders to a place

00:34:27.080 Mitch McConnell are referred to in the press

00:34:29.660 as the three jobs and that's perfectly

00:34:32.040 appropriate I wouldn't necessarily stop and

00:34:34.400 limit myself at the three I'd go for the whole

00:34:36.320 Republican conference um well look you

00:34:40.900 mentioned in your introduction that uh that

00:34:43.660 MAGA's getting blamed for this um blamed is

00:34:47.320 obviously a loaded word I think really what's

00:34:50.040 happened here is that this the section

00:34:52.100 basically the taxpaying base of the Republican

00:34:54.880 Party has stepped up to this like it's never

00:34:57.720 stepped up to anything before um and its

00:35:00.920 influence is being felt on the Republican Party to a

00:35:04.780 colossal degree now um and that's what's what's

00:35:08.260 really happening this is this is finally in a

00:35:11.240 democracy in a representative democracy

00:35:13.440 finally we are seeing the downtrodden tax

00:35:17.320 paying ordinary working guy having not only a

00:35:21.140 voice but they're actually dictating the agenda

00:35:23.180 we had a whole five minute segment on the show

00:35:25.480 yesterday where we just we didn't even edit it

00:35:27.480 we just had the house of commons um the the

00:35:30.560 weekly uh questioning of the prime minister and

00:35:33.440 it was basically the war room's agenda it's all of

00:35:35.880 the things that we're pushing now for consent in

00:35:38.700 the united kingdom this is how what's happening in

00:35:41.400 the united states positively is uh is affecting the

00:35:45.140 debate uh here on this side of the atlantic so you

00:35:50.180 mentioned the situation that uh europe needs to step up

00:35:54.220 and indeed indeed indeed it does there's this absurd

00:35:57.380 situation yesterday where uh georgia maloney who's now uh for

00:36:02.980 six months presiding over the g7 nations where she goes a

00:36:07.620 couple of days ago along with uh justin castro and a

00:36:11.080 couple of others to um to to ukraine to mark the war she

00:36:14.960 says you know courageously you know we're not going to let

00:36:17.460 ukraine now we're not going to abandon ukraine it stand

00:36:20.160 alone we're going to give it all the support it needs

00:36:22.040 and then yesterday uh uh crossetti guido crossetti the the defense

00:36:27.580 minister here in italy admits that not only is italy not going to

00:36:31.700 make its two percent nato contributions its contributions are

00:36:35.220 actually going to fall its defense spending is actually going to fall

00:36:37.920 fall this year so you've got this situation where you have these global

00:36:41.440 leaders say yeah you know it's absolutely vitally important that we

00:36:44.560 give ukraine the support it needs it's just purely performative steve

00:36:49.780 okay this is this is the key point this is why you're on here today i want

00:36:54.340 to go back over this what president trump has said and even

00:36:58.240 the europeans uh committed to and they did this back in 14 when

00:37:01.760 they knew what they did in ukraine was going to cause

00:37:04.120 a big problem with russia they're the ones that came up with this to get to the

00:37:08.600 two percent of gdp with all the happy talk and you know

00:37:12.080 macron's going to send troops and you know germany and sweden are we're

00:37:15.120 already out we're not going to send troops this whole fiasco and put guilt

00:37:18.940 tripping us every second of every day every second of every day you've heard

00:37:23.080 maloney and these others particularly as you get close to the g20

00:37:25.620 over and over again we're here for the ukraine we're going to do whatever for

00:37:30.860 the ukraine we know of the million shells that they committed to

00:37:34.260 they've delivered under 300 000 let me repeat that of the

00:37:38.900 one million shells the europeans committed to

00:37:41.900 they're under 300 000 so when they talk about

00:37:44.800 there's not enough shells there's not enough ammunition this is why they're

00:37:48.520 losing all these positions and this is terrible this is the

00:37:51.100 this is trump's mega base this is this audience the war room posse this is war

00:37:56.480 room uh they're heartless uh they don't believe in

00:37:59.700 democracy they're they're the neville chamberlains

00:38:01.940 they are short and not even going to get close and they're not even not even

00:38:06.500 going to even try to make it up of the million shells that they committed to

00:38:09.860 then you've got maloney and the rest of this crowd all they're hitting the

00:38:14.280 hit the microphones every time we're there we're going to be there we got it

00:38:18.000 you know and then when you see when the really the money comes

00:38:21.760 they're not going to cut the pensions in italy they're not going to cut

00:38:25.340 the free health care they're not going to cut uh the six weeks seven weeks

00:38:29.360 vacation they're not going to cut any of that

00:38:31.800 when it comes to it they're not knowing not going to make the two percent

00:38:34.440 they're going in reverse so just give me the hypocrisy over in europe

00:38:39.360 there's plenty of money this whole this burning thing you got to get to 60

00:38:43.100 billion you got to get to 60 billion guys there's more than enough money in

00:38:46.800 europe right now more than enough they could take care of it 100

00:38:50.400 percent themselves what they want is that is the sucker

00:38:53.860 americans on the hook again ben harnwell

00:38:56.600 that's true um and really you know we said this on the on the one part a

00:39:02.660 number of times the reason why continental europe is like this is

00:39:06.380 because it's been trained to be like this by decades from the united states

00:39:10.440 military industrial complex because it's convenient to the mic and it's

00:39:14.920 convenient to the europeans because it means they don't have to spend

00:39:17.600 anything on defense they can push it all into their sort of luxurious generous

00:39:21.940 social welfare contributions which are de facto paid for by the american

00:39:26.820 taxpayer so that's the situation if you want me to break down the numbers

00:39:30.280 then um this is italy's spending numbers then uh the proportion of gdp in 2020 was

00:39:37.000 1.59 percent that you see 1.59 nowhere near two percent um and that's actually

00:39:42.120 going to fall um uh in in 2023 the figures are just coming out now

00:39:47.180 um to 1.46 so it's actually on a downward slope

00:39:51.260 whilst the rhetoric the soaring rhetoric the heroic soaring rhetoric is going

00:39:56.320 upwards the actual reality on the ground is coming down um so you know this has

00:40:02.180 consequences steve and we'll see these consequences in in ukraine um i've got a

00:40:09.160 couple of articles here that will illustrate the point i want to make if

00:40:12.920 denver denver would be so kind just to pull up the first one here

00:40:15.920 ukraine's front line is collapsing this is from newsweek and this is just uh there's a

00:40:21.260 lot to go in here i won't pick it all up i've just got one poll here which just

00:40:25.120 indicates what i call the slow war roomization of the mainstream media here

00:40:29.980 is just one takeaway that that newsweek quotes in in this article

00:40:33.680 zelensky hasn't amended his stated political goals

00:40:37.220 of total territorial liberation it's hard to sell

00:40:42.040 now young folks that they need to go and make sacrifices in meat grinders

00:40:47.640 like bakhmut and adridka to preserve the status quo as opposed to making

00:40:53.340 sacrifices for a tangible total victory steve i've not seen anywhere in the

00:40:58.060 mainstream media the reference to these uh battle line fronts as meat grinders but

00:41:03.240 they're still you know obviously it's it's daily vocabulary here on the wall but

00:41:06.840 it's starting to penetrate through sort of the mainstream media like newsweek and

00:41:10.820 that's just illustrating the reality on the ground as well as our sociopathic

00:41:15.280 overlords in congress are still doing the heroic you know we've got to stand by

00:41:20.880 ukraine the reality on the ground is that this war is not winning it's never going

00:41:24.880 to be won and all they're going to do is continue to push these young kids not so

00:41:29.440 young uh between 40 and 45 into okay hold it but hold it but this okay now now and

00:41:35.900 since they use the term the meat grinder this is the heart of it right now it's not

00:41:40.660 simply an ammunition problem it's an ammunition problem because they haven't

00:41:44.500 gotten their 700,000 shells short from the europeans it certainly is that we're not

00:41:52.800 supplying them like we were there's no doubt about that but the central biggest

00:41:56.160 problem they have is manpower and personnel the generals made this a big deal

00:42:03.380 they said look you first off you have a super corrupt recruiting system in which

00:42:09.320 people are being paid by these parents not to have the kids there the average age of

00:42:13.080 our military is 42 years old folks you got to look at the pictures on the

00:42:17.260 front there this is world war one type trench warfare it's not the best

00:42:21.720 environment for a 42 year old man or woman this is for young people and quite

00:42:26.000 frankly i'm a little shocked that the age of recruitment in ukraine is i think 27

00:42:30.340 they're going to lower to 25 it's met with huge resistance in the united states

00:42:34.120 it's 18 in fact you could argue by the time a soldier hits 25 or 27 he's kind of a

00:42:38.880 little bit on the downside it's that 18 to 25 year old that's full of piss and vinegar

00:42:44.680 that you want now the parents they're the ones that have stopped it that's what we've

00:42:49.480 had the scandals and recruiting the parents have gotten them out of the country or bought

00:42:52.700 them off because they don't want their kids killed and what they think is meaningless

00:42:56.440 the central problem you had this generals fired and then this quasi coup that didn't

00:43:01.360 work out is the general stood up to zelinski and said you keep asking for arms and

00:43:05.660 yes we need arms but the crisis we have we're 500,000 troops short and the reason

00:43:13.420 we're 500,000 troops short so many of the troops have either been killed or maimed

00:43:18.660 such that they can't come back in in combat is that getting the because until

00:43:24.500 that's solved in fact if you made this money and not that we'll ever back off no

00:43:29.140 money but even if you made the money contingent upon the 500,000 which a couple

00:43:32.440 of people in congress have mentioned you they never get the money because they're not going

00:43:35.980 to get the 500,000 it's quite obvious they can't press gang it strongly enough uh ben ben

00:43:42.440 harnwell steve well you know you know it is a an artillery issue it is a manpower issue but

00:43:48.620 the point is that ukraine was never going to be able to win this war that's the point it was

00:43:52.780 never going to win this war ever going to win this war if nato had come in well you know that

00:43:58.240 might have been uh different but then of course if nato had come in that we're talking basically

00:44:02.660 uh a nuclear uh level confrontation between nato and russia so simply just no matter how much uh

00:44:10.780 ukraine was armed and equipped no matter even if it had all of the santa claus wish lists fulfilled

00:44:16.820 within to advise it was never going to be able to win what we are seeing here is exactly what

00:44:21.600 professor mir sharma said back at the beginning i think he might have even came out with it

00:44:26.100 yeah right back in the first week of this war the first days america is going to fight

00:44:32.140 russia down to the last ukrainian and that's what's happening now if you look at it from the

00:44:36.160 ukrainian perspective the domestic political uh ukrainian perspective there's a huge number of

00:44:41.840 people there that really want the government they want zelinski to sit down and talk with putin and

00:44:46.900 come to terms very difficult for them to manifest that desire publicly though given the realities of a

00:44:52.460 of the situation at war because it looks and appears to be unpatriotic but these people are

00:44:56.720 desperate for a conclusion to this war the reason that's not happening is because the united states

00:45:02.120 joe biden ursula von uh von der line another another sociopath these people are keeping this war going

00:45:09.180 that's that's the thing so it's not just an artillery thing it's not just a manpower thing it's not

00:45:14.200 just a money thing ukraine was never going to be able to win this war why because russia was not only

00:45:19.920 was superiorly prepared for this in terms of artillery and manpower has x factor more people

00:45:27.020 it can throw down onto the front line but for for russia this war is existential and it's not for the

00:45:32.920 united states and it's not for nato so russia was always going to put in everything it needed to put

00:45:38.340 in um now if i can just quickly finish with this point just to illustrate this isn't something that

00:45:43.400 the war room is pushing out here because we're spinmeisters of misinformation as the mainstream

00:45:50.200 media would like to say this is now the analysis that we've been presenting for 18 months two years

00:45:55.360 is now being picked up in the mainstream media here's just one final example this is from bloomberg

00:46:00.240 okay ukraine sees risk of ukraine sees risk of russia breaking through defenses by summer so this is now

00:46:08.080 clearly you know just couple that with the newsweek article things are now really in in the last stages

00:46:13.780 the question is how many more people are joe biden and ursula von der lion willing to feed into this

00:46:20.440 meat grinder before the inevitable sit down and and and negotiate comes to pass that's the question

00:46:27.520 how many more people are they going to allow to die

00:46:30.300 well tell me what it seems like right now they're going to continue to push this i mean i don't see any of

00:46:37.660 the g20 you see this they're not my perception is they're not backing off an inch but they need and

00:46:43.020 they they can't go back to their own people say we're going to cut social services we're going to

00:46:46.960 cut the social safety net of europe they need the united states to come in it's not just 60 billion

00:46:51.820 now they're going to need another 60 next year and the year after that this is continual they're

00:46:56.200 going to they're going to fight till the last ukrainian dies or the united states goes bankrupt

00:47:00.780 whatever comes first ben harnwell well it's an illustration steve of just the absolute chaos and disaster

00:47:07.000 mitch mcconnell is leaving the gop in uh you know that that 60 billion i mean he must have been

00:47:13.520 preparing his uh his announcing uh of his resignation even a couple of weeks ago and when he was pushing

00:47:20.660 this on on the senate side it's basically what he's leaving for for the gop and i suppose he's

00:47:26.260 trying to to sabotage trump's chances in november the best he can it's basically the legislative

00:47:31.960 equivalent of a giant middle finger to maga to the american people and and to the trump movement

00:47:39.380 that's what he's doing he's left absolute chaos because he's put congress the republic is in

00:47:44.600 congress in an incredibly difficult position how difficult well hakeem jeffries said today i think

00:47:51.340 you intimated this earlier he came out and said in an interview in in the new york times this morning

00:47:55.700 that they will supply the numbers for the votes um which puts of course mike johnson under tremendous

00:48:02.840 uh difficulty because if he if they pass this steve yeah you're the expert on all this but if they

00:48:09.340 pass this it with with democrats votes johnson's absolutely finished absolutely finished i mean he's

00:48:16.380 his career is over so he now needs to decide is he going is he going to do what the vast majority of

00:48:23.700 republican want him to do and say no to this spending the 60 billion or is he just going to

00:48:29.100 sort of roll over say yes to the spending yes to another continuing resolution um and then of course

00:48:35.960 the only thing that will happen is that he drags on the inevitable so if they say no first of all

00:48:40.960 maga needs to hold the line here he needs to continue to put pressure on on all congressmen that's

00:48:45.440 absolutely essential hold the line no not one red cent further and that will give the impetus

00:48:51.660 to zelensky and the people in ukraine that want to see this war negotiated into a conclusion

00:48:57.880 of course we'll get to you tomorrow uh putin i don't know if he raised the stakes or gave reality

00:49:04.580 to macron running around saying hey we're going to put combat troops in i think he said today or

00:49:09.440 was releasing a report they had that uh if you send nato combat troops i may answer with tactical

00:49:15.420 nuclear weapons so this is a very dangerous situation and we're playing with fire over there

00:49:20.040 ben how do people get to you on social media i know you've got a tremendous engagement you put up

00:49:24.620 amazing stuff we'll have you back on tomorrow it's a lot going on in europe a lot going on in parliament

00:49:29.800 uh they're they're they're on fire leading up to this european parliamentary election in june i think

00:49:36.160 they're 100 days away from that or 120 days just like we're all over the fall election of president

00:49:42.540 trump where do people go to get you thank you so much steve simply get my social media platform of

00:49:49.180 choice tapping my surname harnwell for my profile at harnwell thanks steve god bless

00:49:54.600 thanks um boy was that a great uh breath of fresh air having sabin howard what it's so special what a

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Bannon's War Room - February 29, 2024

WarRoom Battleground EP 483： Trump Speaks On The Biden Border Invasion

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