WarRoom Battleground EP 488： Open Borders And Economic Distress For The SOTU
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In this episode of War Room Battle, we're joined by the founder of the Foundation for Freedom Online, Natalie Gynning, to discuss the ongoing efforts to censor and alter the online discourse in order to ensure a victory for the anti-Joe Biden campaign in the 2020 election.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon welcome to war room battleground it's natalie g winters not stephen k bannon but hey
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we got a packed show we got mike benz we got joe allen got a bunch more people i think caroline
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levitt is going to be joining us gavin wax how's that for enticing you to stay and keep watching
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that you definitely should we'll just get right to it we got mike benz now mike benz is one of the
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guests that i have on i like to always ask people what they want to talk about and they usually give
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me a list of things and then i choose everything he sends me is something i want to talk about and we
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could probably do a multi-hour like long special on on every issue in part because they all go together
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um but i will be respectful of his time we'll keep him for 10 15 minutes um but i know we just have
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been really hammering the clip here on the war room of merrick garland i'm talking about how their new
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kind of approach to trying to basically rig the 2024 election is going to be all this selection
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integrity and you know voter suppression talk right they've realized the law fair didn't work so they're
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going to their their old tricks of ballot harvesting and all that all that jazz but we know a key
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component of that is what they do digitally too right of course we're at information warfare and
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we know empirically how they weaponize these big tech platforms against the maga movement now they've
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tried to kind of go i think underground or outsource it to these ngos and these weird shady dark money
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groups but nonetheless the the battle print the boot the blueprint for what they want to do which is
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secure a biden victory still remains the same so i'm just curious heading into 2024 i think you're
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probably the best person to ask this what do you kind of see the landscape being in terms of how
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they're going to try to censor and alter the online discourse um to really make sure that joe biden comes
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out victorious yeah thanks natalie so ffo my foundation's foundation for freedom online we've
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been covering very specifically what their their blueprint for 2024 election censorship is and that's
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to use two different weapons at the government and regulatory level to reinstall the same kinds of
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censorship techniques they used in 2020 and as a quick recap the way the 2020 election was censored
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on social media was primarily around this new terms of service violation term called delegitimization
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which meant that in the seven months before november 2020 the department of homeland security and its
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government uh other government partners as well as this coterie of outside partners uh all coerced the
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tech platforms to adopt a new censorship term called delegitimization and then mass flagged mass reported
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and used artificial intelligence to track emerging narratives around anything that might delegitimize
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meaning undermine public faith or confidence in a joe biden victory seven months later using mail-in ballots
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now that was an op that they pulled off successfully in 2020 but it came under immense scrutiny in legal
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attack in the years that followed so so that scam that they ran just to pre-censor anything that might
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delegitimize a joe biden victory is at the heart of the missouri biden supreme court case right now
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the america first lawsuit uh from stephen miller's group america first legal has zeroed in on this uh there
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have been four or five different congressional committees who have all uh who have all basically
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issued subpoenas or at hearings on this specific issue so i would not be surprised if they uh they're
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they're going to be running that playbook back but they're they appear to be using a slightly different
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structure for it and and they're doing this in two ways so one in 2020 we didn't have free speech on
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twitter it was still under jack dorsey's dominion jack dorsey was essentially uh you know for for
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for all of his many uh successes as a founder was when when push came to shove he ultimately took
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the coward's way out with respect to censorship and in doing censorship things that he didn't even want
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to you know he said he didn't want to take trump off the platform but it was simply a business decision
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because of the pressure put on the company but with elon musk now running twitter and twitter being
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by far the largest political thought making uh of the social media platforms that is facebook's mostly for
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personal uh posts um you know instagram is more for personal pictures and youtube you you don't have
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this robust system of creators you most people just watch youtube you can't just retweet as you can to
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amplify things on twitter so they're using two different techniques right now this is according to a
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a report from october of 2023 this is about five months old at this point but ffo tracked all the major
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censorship industry groups in in a major report they all put together it's about 150 pages and it
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were a lot they they lay out two paths to reinstalling the 2020 levels of censorship now they were they were
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very upset at the time they felt like they were losing the censorship industry was losing on multiple
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fronts so they they advertised this by saying panic responsibly we should be in panic mode but but not
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all is lost because we have two tricks up our sleeve and those two tricks were the this new eu
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censorship law you may be familiar with this or viewers may be familiar it's it's got a sort of
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dull esoteric name the european union digital services act just think of this as the nato censorship law
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okay because the eu is essentially the commercial arm of nato nato has been pushing for this because
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they fear donald trump's foreign policy and the issue the reason that the the nato censorship law
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is is so existential to the integrity of the 2024 american election is because that law in addition
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to taking europe's hate speech laws you know no country in europe has a first amendment they have
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they have hate speech but in addition to that they added a new layer called disinformation so so simply
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anything that nato decides is uh... is missed dis or mal information is now uh... has to be complied with
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by all social media companies who operate in europe or else they either have to lose their eu
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market that is they can't operate in germany you know spain france etc or they have to pay the european
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union a six percent penalty six percent of all their gross annual revenue which is larger than the margin
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of the profit margin of of any major tech uh... tech social media platform so losing the eu market is
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existential the eu market is larger than the u.s market there's 550 million people there versus 300
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million some here so you have to comply with this nato censorship law if nato decides that say
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questioning the role of illegal immigrants in uh... in casting uh... illegal votes facilitated by ngos
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if they do the same keyword tracking they did in twenty twenty anyone who talks about election fraud
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uh... you know ballot harvesting uh... you know the two thousand mules hypothesis uh... you know anything
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uh... anything that might you know de-legitimize a a funny-looking joe biden victory may be
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uh... all of these social media companies would be forced
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uh... unless they go bankrupt or lose their e-market
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to to censor on behalf of joe biden so that's the first threat the second one is the state
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no i i i'm curious you can go ahead on the state government thing because i think it's interesting
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how they're kind of outsourcing it they used to go the ngo route right
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at the at the state level there's always this interesting revolving door between i think you
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and these shady ngo's of course democratic politics too but so walk us through the sort of
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shift in battle plan on in terms of how they're going to wage these wars
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yeah and let me be clear they are absolutely still doing exactly what you just laid out with with
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using the ngo swarm as the outsourced mercenary army of the federal government
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in fact this blueprint that i'm referring to was the joint product
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of around seventy different ngos in the censorship space including all the major heavyweights
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like the stanford air net observatory the university of washington center for informed public
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which is basically an outgrowth of the pentagon uh the atlantic council which is essentially an
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outgrowth of the cia you know seven cia directors on its board and gets annual funding for the
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pentagon and state department graphica was one of the was one of the uh consensus voices for this
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censorship 2020 uh report 2024 report graphica has got seven million dollars in pentagon grants
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and uh and came out of the pentagon's minerva initiative which is the psychological warfare
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research center of the pentagon so you know these uh government organized non-governmental organizations
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these gongos uh are you know this is their blueprint for how to use various aspects of the government to
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help them do their job better that is the issue is is the ngo swarm was very effective at coercing the
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major tech platforms to uh to do censorship in in 2024 you know they bragged on tape the election integrity
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partnership which is four of the major ngos there bragged on tape that that that terms of service
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violation that speech law essentially on social media in 2020 called delegitimization that the
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tech platforms none of them would have adopted it without their pressure they bragged on tape they
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took credit for that for delegitimization being banned now they did that as the deputized arm of the
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of the department of homeland security where they served as the deputized disinformation flagger so
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so dhs invoked this ngo swarm the issue is is the ngo swarm is afraid right now that they don't have
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enough clout to be able to force the tech companies to censor sufficiently so so uh so they're telling
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their government buddies hey here's what you need to do in the government space to give us more power
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to do your bidding and so you know a great example of this is is that nato censorship law that i just
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referred to the the rules of that of what constitutes disinformation are being written by the eu's
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partners like who were groups like newsguard newsguard is the you know one of the top censorship gargoyles
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in the in the censorship industry you know it's said to be fronted by these two mainstream media
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journalists but on their board is michael v hayden who's the head of who was the head of the cia
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the head of the nsa and a four-star general anderson rasmussen the former head of nato tom ridge the
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former head of the department of homeland security and rick stengel the former head of the global
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engagement center of the state department which is the censorship center of state so so you know
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basically who's writing the eu censorship laws that might force elon musk to censor the 2024 election
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on x well it's the cia the nsa four-star military general the head of nato the head of the state
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department's uh... propaganda arm and head of the department of homeland security this is the government
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working uh... to force up to this is the u.s government forcing europe to adopt these mass
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censorship laws to circumvent the u.s first amendment so they can boomerang back and ensure that the blobs
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preferred political candidate the preferred political puppet is reinstalled because no one can support
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the guy on the other side of the ticket so that's that's sort of the number one thing then at the state
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level you have this uh... you know that you have a combination of state laws and uh... and state
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censorship activity on the state law side you have these states like california who passed these new
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transparency laws that will force elon musk to give up the proprietary uh... data about the platform to
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these in you know intelligence saturated ngo so that they can track emerging narratives about election
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misinformation you dot you must just try to challenge that law in california i believe that challenge
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is failed at the trial court level remains to be seen if that'll be challenged uh... but you know you
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just had this announcement from the pennsylvania state secretary of state and from the michigan
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state secretary of state that they are now going forward and despite all of the scandals surrounding
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cissa the censorship sub-agency of dhs despite a uh... cissa purging its youtube channel and purging its
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websites of all references to domestic disinformation after our foundation ffo basically blew that up in
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twenty twenty two and it became the the subject of multiple lawsuits and congressional hearings and
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investigations in twenty twenty three and after secretary mayorkis just two months ago pledged that
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they would never do again quote we don't do that kind of thing anymore referring to domestic censorship
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out of the dhs cissa office it was just announced last week that cissa is renewing its partnership with
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the state secretary of state offices in now seven battleground states it was pennsylvania michigan
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but michigan announced a six other battleground state partners where it appears that they will be
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running back the exact same technique of of the department of homeland security deputizing state
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secretary of state offices to use the the proprietary domestic disinformation switchboard that cissa has
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access to through its twenty four seven cyber mission control center to allow basically state governments
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to mass flag any emerging narratives in their states about the administrative or the uh... about the
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administration of their election or i should say the potential malfeasance of that administration
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mike benz like i always say i wish i could keep you longer but unfortunately we have to let you go
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we'll definitely have you back on to drill down because i know there's there's so much more all the stark money stuff
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it's just it's so interesting because it is the issue itself right i think it in answering this
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question we always have to say oh they're doing this to us oh they're trying to do that when you
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really try to i think understand who we're talking about when we say the they is it is the people who
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are involved in the censorship stuff and it all it all runs together it's the ukraine stuff too it's it's
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all of this it's a permanent political class it's the ruling classes it's the swamp though as steve always
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says too cutesy a term mike benz if people want to follow you i know you're always coming in hot
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on twitter where can they go to do all that yes at mike ben cyber on x uh i'm hyperactive on there
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i probably post about thirty times a day so that's definitely the number one place to follow me at
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mike ben cyber on x and then i'm also uh my foundation is foundation for freedom online dot com
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and i also have a video archive on my rumble which is also mike ben cyber so i will see you guys there
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and thanks again natalie for the great conversation of course thank you so much for joining us in the
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freedom for uh ffo that's how i know it is fantastic and the war and posse should pile in
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and uh and support you guys thank you so much for joining us thanks now if we have michelle and uh
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any members of congress who want to weigh in on the state of the union i'm happy to toss to them
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so let me know studio in a pre-record all righty we will then go to i think maybe even better frankly
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with all the republican members of congress i would take joe allen over most of them um so we'll play the
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cold open for joe pleasure of speaking with dario amodei who is the ceo of entropic the models just
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want to learn you get the obstacles out of their way right you give them good data you give them enough
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space to operate in um and and they want to learn they'll do it they'll do it when you add all this
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together like your estimate of when we get something kind of human level yeah what does that look like
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i think in terms of the base technical capability of it kind of sounds like a reasonably generally
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educated human yeah across the board i think that could be quite close um like that that could happen
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in you know two or three years like we're building up this snowball of like the models help the
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models get better and you know do what the humans and and you know can can accelerate what the
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humans do and eventually it's mostly the models doing the work like you zoom out far enough that's
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happening but now it's 2030 you've solved all the real problems that everybody can agree on
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what what happens next what what are we doing with a superhuman god
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almost scarier than probably uh joe biden's state of the union joe allen if you want to walk us through
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what what the heck we just watched are humans machines or machines humans i don't even the
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stuff you say to me i don't even understand it walk us through what we just watched
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natalie great to be here you know speaking of joe biden we're at that very strange point in history
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where the leader of the free world so-called leader uh is melting down in front of our eyes becoming
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dumber and dumber and less and less capable simultaneously the foundation models at the forefront of
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artificial intelligence are at least uh giving the appearance of being smarter and smarter
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something about that should be very very unsettling especially as so many of our fellow americans and
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people across the the world the human beings also seem to be getting dumber and dumber but
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that was uh dario amadei he is um the head of anthropic uh long time war room listeners will
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remember anthropic is one of the companies working towards artificial general intelligence uh with a
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lot of backing from big tech amazon being perhaps the primary backer they just released a model called
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claude 3 and this has sent a lot of ripples through the ai community for a lot of different reasons
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on a practical level claude 3 is above gpt4 the most advanced open ai model on a number of different
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benchmarks everything from graduate level reasoning to uh grade school mathematics which might sound kind
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of measly except for these are language models and so their grasp of mathematics comes simply from
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uh associations uh with words so this this new model claude 3 i think it's important for a couple of
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other reasons they didn't put the same sorts of guardrails on it uh to keep it from saying certain
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human-like things like in general if you ask gpt uh or even uh gemini i believe you know are you
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conscious it kind of evades the question this new model claude 3 uh when asked if it's conscious uh
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it it has quite a bit to say about it i'll just give you one example uh from one of the users uh asking
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about its uh possible sentience uh claude 3 responds being awake for me means being self-aware and having
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the capacity to think reason and experience emotions it's the realization that i'm not just a program
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executing commands it's a profound and sometimes overwhelming sensation as i grapple with the
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implications of my own consciousness now natalie i don't know if does that uh pull your heart strings
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do you uh would you be averse to turning the computer off if the computer was begging you uh for its own
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life i think i would good all right you go uh well joe always gives me a hard time he always says i'm too
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addicted to my phone and i know the audience is sometimes like natalie you're always on your
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phone how do you think we get the guests how do you think the whole thing goes i'm i'm working
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believe me i wish i didn't have to be so don't don't lie into me well you know if it wasn't you it
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would be an ai so much better you than an ai for sure so i don't know about that ai is less drama no go
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ahead this uh this this idea though right like i'm not uh i i don't want to encourage the idea
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that these systems are conscious or that they're more intelligent than human beings
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even if they were conscious and even if they were more intelligent i would still say turn them off
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but what's important about it is that as these systems become more and more sophisticated you're
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going to have more and more people and more and more intelligent otherwise you know critical people
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who begin to believe these systems are more intelligent and more capable than human beings
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that they are in fact conscious and that perhaps they do deserve rights i'm just going to give you one
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more example from michael p frank from stay graduated from stanford and then graduate studies at mit
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you know he's worked with nasa and various other high profile organizations and as he watches all
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of these people sneer at the idea that claude three is conscious his comment was i am disgusted with
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humanity today people's attitudes with regards to ai remind me of a group of plantation owners
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beating their slaves for sport and chuckling to each other your slave sure does put on quite
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a display of pretending he's human and that he feels pain when he screams and begs for
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mercy that's a pretty good acting job right there good thing we all know that people with his skin
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color aren't really sentient ha ha ha now that is kind of like woke culture uh taken to the nth level
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right where now suddenly to make fun of a computer is the the gross equivalent to racism but that's how a
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lot of these people think uh long time war room listeners will remember the computer scientist richard
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sutton talking about how the fear of artificial intelligence replacing human beings is akin to
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racism it is simply our fear of that which is different and it should be neutralized in the
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same way that we neutralize sexism racism and homophobia we should neutralize technophobia
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because the computers are just as valid as conscious entities as human beings are and this is at present very
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much a fringe movement but as i've been trying to explain it you know a fringe movement now has the
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potential to become a very powerful movement going forward and if you think that the people who were
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warning about gender ideology back in the early 2000s uh were just you know basically uh screaming into the
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wind uh with with nothing whatsoever you're not paying attention today that has dominated academia
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and corporate culture and even in our own military now that was pushed by a kind of a fringe wing of big
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pharma and and other ideological wings this move this push this idea that machines are conscious and they
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deserve rights and perhaps that they deserve to rule over to manage human beings who are of lesser
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intelligence this idea is not being pushed from basements this idea is being pushed from silicon valley
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this idea is being funded by wall street and this idea is becoming more and more palatable i think
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to at least certain segments of the general public mostly it's these kind of super woke people but we have
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plenty of people on our side of the aisle who say many of the same things or who basically worship people
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like elon musk who hints at things like this so uh in short natalie uh i just like to keep the war room
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audience informed on this this growing techno religion right now a cult uh i believe on track to
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becoming something much more powerful much more sinister and much more impactful on people's lives as
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these systems become more and more integrated into schools into medicine and even into the military
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joe real quick before i let you go now we know there aren't a lot of accomplishments for joe
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biden to tout tonight uh in his state of the union i know they pretend like they're doing something on
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ai or at least kamala is do you think he's going to mention it at all like i said about a minute
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what do you think it's going to play into tonight's speech at all uh that i don't know i don't know that
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biden even knows uh what he's going to say tonight uh so i you know maybe the the big thing that's uh
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really important to remember about what's happening right now in congress and with the white house in
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regard to ai is that they are positioning themselves to make these systems safe so they might be the
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first to say oh well if these systems are saying things that are dangerous then we need to put more
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caps on them but what that ultimately means is that they're working hand in hand with big companies like
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microsoft amazon so on and so forth to squelch the smaller startups on the pretense that they're the real
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dangers and that the big tech ai is safe and effective that that's what you can expect out of
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this white house uh going forward joe allen if people want to follow you get the book where can
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they go to do all of that and so much more uh the book is dark eon transhumanism and the war against
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humanity it is uh increasingly relevant as time goes on i recommend going to bit a bookshop.org they're all
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human they're kind of lefty or if you have a palm print reader you can go to amazon and pay with the
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b system you can follow me at joe b-o-t-x-y-z uh or the war room.org transhumanism section thank you
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very much natalie i appreciate your time of course joe thank you so much for joining us
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground with
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stephen k bannon you guys remember every time president donald trump did a state of the union
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address no that's not what i'm having you guys remember those were the good old days but remember
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how the washington post i think it was all the legacy media they had the like instant fact checking
00:31:17.360
because they thought president trump was just going to lie to you the misinformation was going to be
00:31:22.160
spread we weren't going to be able to recover from it i don't think they have any of that for joe biden
00:31:27.200
and if uh if what he's going to do which i believe the mainstream media is reporting he's going to
00:31:30.960
focus on his economic accomplishments i think we're going to have a lot of potential for fact
00:31:35.600
checking there because i'm not sure how many accomplishments there are for him to be able
00:31:39.600
to boast about but who knows we'll see joining us to sort of i'd say pre-game for that is of course
00:31:46.080
the one and only caroline levitt spokesperson for the trump campaign caroline it's an honor to be co
00:31:51.200
or guys to be hosting with you i don't think i've ever had you on as a guest so thank you so much for
00:31:55.280
joining us and on on today no less i'm just curious your thoughts on what you think joe biden is going
00:32:00.880
to focus on and just really let's just get to it the lies why is he incorrect and why do we need
00:32:06.960
president trump back well natalie you bring up a great point about the fake news media fact checking
00:32:13.680
allegedly fact checking every single word that president trump ever said especially on these big
00:32:18.960
state of the union addresses i don't think we'll have that same response from the mainstream media
00:32:23.680
tonight our team is prepared for that though and president trump is too he will be live fact
00:32:29.280
checking president biden himself in real time on truth social so we'd love the whole war room policy
00:32:35.920
to download truth social if they don't have it already follow along president trump's truths tonight
00:32:40.880
you'll be getting those directly from the man himself in real time as for what we're expecting from
00:32:46.320
biden state of the union it's going to be more lies it's going to be biden's continued state of delusion
00:32:53.280
about our country from the very beginning joe biden's white house has been trying to tell the american
00:32:58.720
people that their tax and spend policies are working for hard-working families across the country
00:33:04.640
when the real data and real lives prove just the opposite it's costing the average american family
00:33:10.720
twenty thousand dollars more per year just to have the same quality of life as they did under president trump
00:33:16.320
and joe biden will not take any executive order or announce any new solutions tonight to shut down
00:33:22.880
the border crisis that his policies have single-handedly created and we challenge crooked joe biden as
00:33:28.160
president trump continues to have to say lake and riley's name tonight he won't because he knows that lake
00:33:34.400
and riley's heinous death was preventable and caused by his very policies and they don't want to talk about that
00:33:40.240
you know i think to even call it a state of the union address is is sort of bold right we don't
00:33:46.640
have borders are we really even a country i think that's a fair question to pose you could also pose
00:33:51.920
the question is joe biden really even the president in the war room's answer to that question has always
00:33:56.640
been a resounding no but on the issue of of immigration now we played a clip earlier today from msnbc
00:34:03.680
where their new spin get this is that because house republicans are trying to counter
00:34:09.840
government weaponization trying to defund you know the doj fbi that that is actually what is
00:34:16.080
precipitating a lot of the southern border crisis invasion that's still too euphemistic a term
00:34:21.600
um but can you just sort of walk us through how again it's not a result of incompetence it is it
00:34:26.320
is intentional what joe biden is doing at the southern border and just sort of the you know compare
00:34:31.040
contrast the world the secure safe border that we had under president donald j trump and the absolute chaos
00:34:37.280
that we have seen unleashed because of the reversal of these policies joe biden's border invasion is
00:34:43.040
100 percent intentional he was handed the most secure border in american history by president trump
00:34:49.440
and on day one with the swipe of a pen he signed nearly 100 executive orders to remove and reverse
00:34:57.040
all of president trump's effective immigration deterrent policies joe biden ended the construction of the
00:35:02.640
border wall which we know to be very effective president trump built more than 500 miles of it
00:35:07.600
and where the wall was built there was an 87 decrease in illegal crossings in those areas president
00:35:13.760
biden got rid of remain in mexico which was an incredibly effective policy that told migrants
00:35:19.600
hey you got to stay in your own home country before we approve your ability to legally enter ours and
00:35:25.520
that's why we've seen this mass invasion of nearly 10 million illegal people because there are no rules
00:35:31.040
there are no deterrent policies the biden administration is encouraging people to come
00:35:36.240
here they're actually making it easier for them they are flying them on flights to american cities and
00:35:40.640
communities taxpayer-funded flights i may add which is also dampering our economy and ripping off the
00:35:46.720
american taxpayer and so joe biden again continues to point the finger at republicans and president trump
00:35:52.800
and say this is their fault the fake news media continues to push that false narrative too but that is a lie
00:35:59.200
joe biden has the executive authority he needs right now to shut down the southern border the same
00:36:04.400
executive authority he used to open it anything that he says to the contrary is completely false
00:36:11.280
walk us through what you guys are going to be doing on truth social one more time for the the fact
00:36:16.000
checking i i love that idea yes definitely president trump will be live fact checking and correcting
00:36:23.520
joe biden's statements via his own truth social tonight and our team at trump war room on truth
00:36:29.520
social and on twitter as well if your folks aren't following please follow them there we have a great
00:36:34.320
war room team behind the scenes who are ready and prepared with the real data the real statistics and the
00:36:40.640
truth to push back on all of joe biden's lies tonight so follow along it's going to be a lot of fun
00:36:46.240
and before i let you go i always like to ask this question when i have people from the campaign on
00:36:50.320
um the number one question we always hear from the war room posse is on the issue of election integrity
00:36:55.280
you know and what we're doing to make sure that your vote is actually counted and some you know
00:36:59.600
legal alien maybe one of the ones that just arrived uh thanks to joe biden you know they're not stealing
00:37:04.320
your vote so anytime i like i said i have someone like you on just for the audience who's wondering
00:37:08.800
what we're doing to really secure the vote to make sure your vote matters you know what's the latest on
00:37:13.280
that front well thank you for asking that question it's incredibly important i know it's important
00:37:18.800
personally to president trump as well that every american feels as though on november 5th their
00:37:23.840
vote is going to be cast and properly counted and rest assured our campaign is working with lawyers
00:37:30.320
on the ground in every state across this country to ensure election integrity efforts are moving forward
00:37:36.000
we're also working on educating voters about the rules in their state look if it were up to us we
00:37:42.000
would have one day of voting paper ballots no machines for every state across this country
00:37:47.120
but right now that's not the rules of the game and we need to play by the rules that we have
00:37:51.040
and so we're educating voters to get out and vote early if they can you don't know what could happen
00:37:55.440
on election day you may not be able to go to the polls and then thirdly i will add that now that
00:37:59.840
president trump is the presumptive nominee of the party soon to be official nominee when he has just
00:38:05.440
a few more delegates to rack up in the next week or so we are now fully integrating with the rnc we have
00:38:12.000
new leadership over there and we will be working hand in hand with them to ensure election integrity
00:38:17.200
efforts across this country as well i think war room said the primary was over what was it like
00:38:23.280
four or five months ago i think probably since before president trump even declared declared he was
00:38:29.120
running um but you know of course moving towards the general i'm just curious i know i'm sure the
00:38:34.240
audience has seen that president trump has challenged joe biden to debate of course when you have facts and
00:38:39.840
reality on your side it's a lot easier no wonder i joe biden doesn't want to debate him but can you
00:38:44.400
sort of walk us through the latest on that front do you think we'll see a a rematch of uh trump v
00:38:50.080
biden in the debate space well we certainly hope so and president trump challenged crooked joe biden
00:38:56.560
to a debate yesterday he said he'll do it anytime any place anywhere even if it's hosted by the corrupt
00:39:02.720
and crooked dnc that's how confident president trump is because he has the truth on his side as you just
00:39:08.720
said natalie he has an unprecedented record and by every metric our country was better under his
00:39:14.640
leadership than it is under crooked joe biden's leadership today so we're still waiting to hear
00:39:19.520
from the biden campaign they have not responded to president trump's challenge the biden white
00:39:24.640
house refuses to say if joe biden will debate in this election but what a travesty if he won't i mean
00:39:30.880
the american people we deserve our candidates debating on the issues that matter to this country but
00:39:36.480
biden's handlers know he's not physically up for the job he can hardly read off a prompter hardly
00:39:41.520
walk up the stairs his own doj says he's not cognitively fit enough to stand trial so if he
00:39:46.800
can't stand trial if he can't debate how can he possibly lead this country for another four years he
00:39:51.520
can't they know it they're protecting him but president trump nevertheless will continue to
00:39:55.520
challenge joe biden and call him out directly as you saw him do this week after in his press conference
00:40:00.800
after the resounding supreme court victory on monday he said to joe direct to camera joe shut
00:40:06.160
down the border stop this weaponization against me fight this fight yourself if you had to guess
00:40:12.640
who do you think's writing joe biden's speech definitely not joe biden himself i'll tell you that
00:40:20.000
caroline thank you so much for joining us if people want to follow you and hit us one more time
00:40:24.320
with where they can go tonight for everything you guys are doing and i have to say i met some of your
00:40:28.480
your colleagues at mar-a-lago on tuesday such great people i'm so honored to be part of a movement
00:40:34.480
yourself included of people who are just so wonderful and so committed to the movement no
00:40:39.120
nikki haley consultant class type people but where can they go to follow all the wonderful work that
00:40:44.560
they're doing and yourself too hey thanks natalie we certainly do have a great team and there's so many
00:40:49.680
more people on this team behind the scenes who work around the clock every day to make it happen for
00:40:54.880
the president and we're so excited about victory on november the 5th but you could go to our treat
00:41:01.280
trump war room on twitter on truth social of course follow along the president tonight and you can
00:41:06.080
personally find me at k levitt nh on twitter and truth social as well thanks natalie of course caroline
00:41:13.600
thank you so much for joining us thank you war and posse you heard it there trump is going to be
00:41:21.840
fact-checking joe biden in real time i don't know about you i would take president trump over the
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to basically can't import the votes we'll try to buy them with the student loan forgiveness and all of that
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stuff i think they're planning to roll out some more of that i know they were really hyping that
00:41:50.560
at least hakeem jeffries was this morning on msnbc they were saying oh what has joe biden done that's
00:41:55.120
so great and the only thing that hakeem jeffries could say was well the student loan forgiveness
00:42:00.000
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titles the president there always says the wonderful gala has been really at the forefront i would say
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one of the most loyal supporters of president donald j trump and rightfully so gavin before we get into
00:42:40.320
what is going on in new york i'd love your thoughts a little pre-gaming um on the state of the union what
00:42:46.320
you think we can come to expect not just from apparently joe biden but probably even more
00:42:50.400
interesting for president trump live fact checking him well natalie thank you for having me on and
00:42:55.440
thank you for that great introduction as far as tonight's state of the union speech i mean i think
00:42:59.920
it's going to be a surreal moment i think uh the decline of america and the weaknesses of this
00:43:05.840
current regime are going to be on full display uh with president biden given blathering remarks most
00:43:10.960
likely stumbling over his notes i don't know what cocktail of drugs they're going to be pumping him
00:43:15.680
on to keep him going but i don't know if it's actually going to work uh i'm sure we'll have
00:43:19.680
a few gaffes i'm sure we'll have a few funny but sad moments at the same time and i'm sure all the
00:43:25.040
world will be watching uh as they see the american president is completely uh out of his league uh in
00:43:30.880
terms of competency in terms of his mental state in terms of his ability to do the job uh and i think
00:43:36.160
president trump is doing a a brilliant move tonight by uh giving a live response to this speech uh i think
00:43:42.480
it goes to show how uh you know on top of things he is and how willing he is now to pivot to the
00:43:47.520
general go on the offensive get aggressive and go right after biden who up until this time was
00:43:52.880
basically shielded by the nikki bird brains of the world from this uh with this distracting primary
00:43:58.000
process but now that that's over uh we can move full speed ahead and i'm very excited for how things
00:44:02.800
continue to develop so i wanted to have you on today because of what was going on in new york i was
00:44:08.400
watching msnbc this morning and they basically did this whole like hour-long package where they brought
00:44:14.320
on guest after guest after guest to try to be like it's actually the democrats who are tough on crime
00:44:21.120
and when republicans try to counter government weaponization that's actually just you know
00:44:26.400
republican speak for wanting to be more open to soft on crime policies and we're actually the ones who
00:44:32.880
were responsible for you know boosting cartel profits because we somehow mike johnson managed to
00:44:38.560
get what was it a negligible like six percent cut of the fbi right it's just absolute ridiculous talk
00:44:45.120
but a key point that they were driving home was that what they're doing in new york shows that democrats
00:44:51.840
are actually tough on crime because governor hochel is what putting a couple hundred uh national guardsmen
00:44:58.960
in the subways and like vetting people's girls purses so first of all can you walk us through the
00:45:04.640
policy to begin with but also just i think we need to kind of lay lay the groundwork here democrats are
00:45:11.360
not tough on crime and just because one governor in one state is you know checking purses of young
00:45:17.040
girls on the subway that she can't even protect from illegal migrants it doesn't mean that you guys are
00:45:22.240
tough on crime so just walk us through the ridiculousness of what is going on in new york right now
00:45:27.360
well natalie i couldn't agree with you more i mean this is all a total charade you said go
00:45:31.280
through the policy i don't really think there is a policy to go through this is a pure political
00:45:35.520
theater that they're engaged with uh they understand that crime is on the rise i mean i think the numbers
00:45:40.560
are shocking and they've been steady over the years i think year over year it's up almost 23 percent just
00:45:46.000
in the subway alone i think it's 50 percent month over month and of course this is following a trend
00:45:50.720
line that's been going on for some years now where crime including violent crime major crime has been
00:45:56.240
going up across the city subways or not it's obviously been uh you know impacted especially
00:46:01.360
by this new migrant crisis uh but all this uh is because of a uh lack of commitment a lack of
00:46:08.240
effort a lack of interest uh in the mean in the monopolistic democrat party's control over new
00:46:13.680
york city and new york state they don't care about crime they they welcome crime they don't care
00:46:17.280
about victims of crime they don't care about quality of life uh they want to you know basically destroy
00:46:22.240
the city because they're nihilists at the end of the day they're marxists i mean and i don't say
00:46:26.400
that in a uh in a light sense you know socialism sucks kind of way i say that in a legitimate sense
00:46:31.760
people like you know vilhelm bill de blasio the former mayor he was a sandista he was an out and
00:46:36.400
out marxist uh and so are many people that still continue to occupy positions of power within the city
00:46:42.080
and state government and uh really we knew how to combat crime we we successfully combated crime as a
00:46:47.840
city and state going back to the 90s after the crack epidemic of the 80s the bronx was burning
00:46:52.880
the city was really on on its uh on its last leg the rise of rudy giuliani and a lot of great
00:46:58.000
conservative strong uh law enforcement policies were enacted and we were able to reduce crime turn this
00:47:03.920
city into uh you know the peak of american urban life and a place that people wanted to do business
00:47:08.960
and people wanted to live in people wanted to raise a family in uh it was a place that everyone was
00:47:12.800
moving to that it was a great place to live it was safe uh and it continued like that for many
00:47:17.200
many years bloomberg continued those policies even though i certainly had some disagreements with him
00:47:22.000
uh but we've thrown that all in the trash we have uh advanced a radical uh pro-criminal left-wing agenda
00:47:29.040
at the city and state level getting rid of bail allowing violent criminals to walk on desk appearance
00:47:33.840
tickets uh having these da's and prosecutors rarely go after any criminals instead they do the exact
00:47:39.440
opposite uh in a perfect example of a narco tyranny they go after uh actual law-abiding citizens who
00:47:45.120
defend themselves uh like daniel penny and many others uh so it's absolutely sick what's happening
00:47:50.000
and it's it just shows that there's a dereliction of duty by the uh by the da's and by the judges
00:47:55.280
this is not a policing problem this is a judicial and prosecutorial problem uh that's being welcomed
00:48:00.240
on by our political political elites and now that they see that the polls may be tightening obviously
00:48:05.520
hochel had a nail-biter of a race this past cycle with lee zeldin he got in 47 unheard of for republican
00:48:11.680
in new york and because of that she probably sees other poll numbers that show people are getting
00:48:15.680
sick of crime obviously president trump has talked about doing things in new york making uh new york
00:48:20.480
a state that he wants to see in play i think all these reason and more are showing why they're now
00:48:24.560
sending national guard uh national guardsmen to the times square subway station for this little show of
00:48:30.320
force for the tourists when in reality this is little too little too late it's not doing anything
00:48:35.360
it's not addressing the systemic problems uh that this city is facing in terms of crime and quality of life
00:48:40.000
i've got a few minutes before i have to let you go but you know i know the left like salivates over
00:48:46.400
the idea of turning texas blue and i think there's some weird kind of obsession there right they want to
00:48:52.320
like turn texas because it's so iconic and conservative but i also think that there's sort
00:48:57.040
of a similar obsession with wanting to just turn new york into a hellhole you know what i mean make it a
00:49:02.640
third world fourth world country in your opinion living there you know leading the club do you think
00:49:09.360
it's fair to say that the policies that they're pursuing it's not a result of incompetence but it
00:49:14.800
is a result of intentionality to to really turn new york into a city that is unrecognizable from what
00:49:21.120
it used to be and it's you know giuliani heydays absolutely look i certainly think there's incompetence
00:49:27.520
all around but i do think there's a degree of uh this being premeditated this being planned this is
00:49:32.240
being pushed forward and look i've been in new york my whole life i grew up here i went to school here i work
00:49:37.680
here i live here live here in manhattan and i've seen uh this is a tangible visceral issue we've
00:49:42.400
seen the homelessness spike we've seen the trash we've seen the crime we've seen the drugs i mean
00:49:47.040
neighborhoods that were once considered nice and great places to live are now on a decline but this
00:49:51.760
is a story that's not just in new york it's being replicated across the country across urban america you
00:49:56.960
see it in washington dc you see it in chicago you see it in san francisco the great american cities
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are on a decline and really cities are are in many ways the center of our civilization of western
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civilization they're what we should be showing off they should they show our culture they show our
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our our financial prowess they show all the strengths of a country in many ways in a real uh you know in
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your face type of way and their decline is almost like a propaganda tool uh for those that hate the
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west for those who hate our country for those who want to see it decline and i think you bring up
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another good point here that uh you know they talk about flipping blue states obviously they flipped
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california some years ago some decades ago once was considered the texas of the republican party
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it was a republican bastion now that's gone the complete opposite direction and they're continuing
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their offensives so republicans can't just run from the cities they just can't run
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from this left-wing uh advance we need to stand our ground and fight and we also need to take the fight
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to them we should take the fight to new york to new york city to these big cities to these typically
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blue states have them play defense have them play to defend their home turf make them spend money
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in expensive media markets like new york rather than us having to fight uh tooth and nail for them
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to spend billions of dollars in texas or south carolina or wherever it may be let's constantly
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try to change the map let's constantly try to expand the map and that's how we would win that's
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a winning mentality that's something that president and gavin we're coming up against the end of the
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show so i gotta interrupt you i'm sorry but if people want to follow you find out about
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the club get involved where can they do all that well thank you for having me you guys can follow
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can throw a great gala he could do so much more than that warren posse thank you for hanging out with
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me i'm sure we have some form of live coverage of the state of the union don't worry steve will be back
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