Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 493： The Hidden Secrets Of Victoria Nuland

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

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00:00:39.620 here's your host stephen k bannon okay thursday 14 march year of earlier 2024 i finally have

00:00:47.680 disciplined myself uh i'm only having two guests this hour uh one because i can talk so i can talk

00:00:53.800 a lot too they're two of my favorite people and smartest people around and they got so much to

00:00:58.300 go through i just want to take time i've been jamming the six o'clock hour which we specifically

00:01:03.080 broke out to do more in depth i've been jamming it with too many guests they've been shows been great

00:01:07.780 but i today uh i've got darren beady at revolver which is people know one of my favorite sites and

00:01:13.980 something we push non-stop but it's it's a topic and i because i want to take some time and develop

00:01:19.200 this you've got an amazing piece your lead this morning was on victoria newland in the background

00:01:25.400 of her being removed or resigning or retiring everything but but in starting that i want to

00:01:31.540 make sure this audience in particular the audience is growing so fast a lot of new people that may not

00:01:36.180 be familiar with all your thinking victoria newland in this whole ukraine situation started a decade

00:01:43.740 ago or longer with this concept of what's called a color revolution and you have been your theory of the

00:01:49.900 case of what we've been going on against this biden regime this illegitimate regime in the trump mega

00:01:54.940 movement was also a color revolution i want you to describe what a color revolution is why victoria

00:02:01.640 newland's so important much more important just her billet right she's one of the she's one of the

00:02:06.440 great operators and executioners you know they call that we call the dominatrix of kiev right or kiev

00:02:12.160 it's uh why she's so why she's so important and what is this concept of color revolution that we're

00:02:18.820 seeing not just throughout the world but you're actually seeing here in the united states of

00:02:22.520 america sir absolutely well it's an honor to be with you at the six o'clock hour and yes indeed color

00:02:30.660 revolution is a key concept for everyone to understand in terms of how the deep state functions

00:02:35.860 and how frankly our nation projects power you know several years ago at the incipient stages of the war

00:02:44.860 room i was on with you to talk about what has now become revolver news's classic color revolution

00:02:52.340 theory series this was before we were on the map with january 6 this is our first big hit was the

00:02:59.540 color revolution hit we covered people like norm eyes and george kent and of course victoria newland

00:03:05.660 is one of them and the thesis at the time was twofold one is that there is a specific

00:03:13.880 sub-faction of the deep state often referred to as the atlanticist due to their prioritization their

00:03:22.100 focus on the atlantic on european geopolitical affairs and in particular on russia frankly and that

00:03:30.340 there is a network of people there's not just an ideology there's a sociology to it it's a specific

00:03:36.760 network of people and we presented the case that the same tools that this faction uses to undermine and

00:03:47.500 overthrow so-called authoritarian dictators overseas for instance in eastern europe and so forth

00:03:54.400 they had repurposed those same tools domestically in order to go after trump because they view trump

00:04:01.820 and the underlying emergence of populism as a similar type of threat and in fact if you want to go even

00:04:08.880 deeper than that the timeline matches up very well you have the russian invasion of crimea in say 2014

00:04:17.780 followed by just years later a couple years later both brexit and the trump phenomenon so these things

00:04:25.440 happened in fairly quick succession and to this specific network they were all part of the same problem

00:04:31.560 because that's what they knew how to do they knew how to deal with russia and do color revolutions to

00:04:37.780 undermine russia here's this new populist threat that emerges let's lump it in together because that's what

00:04:43.440 they know how to do and so this i think is a huge part and sort of under under under reported

00:04:51.620 aspect of how the specific russian narrative had come to be such a popular and important way that the

00:05:01.020 regime had tried to undermine the legitimacy of the trump presidency these things are very

00:05:07.200 connected at the network level they know how to deal with russia they say okay let's just classify the

00:05:13.100 emergence of trump as a national security threat just like russia and then we can use all the tools we know

00:05:18.780 how to use and we've been perfecting for decades in eastern europe we can use those against trump and so

00:05:24.160 that explains the otherwise bizarre phenomenon that a vastly disproportionate number of the people played

00:05:32.320 prominent roles for instance in trump's impeachment and so forth had a ukraine profile had an eastern

00:05:38.800 europe profile had a color revolution profile and what is the color revolution for that matter

00:05:44.240 it is not the kind of crude uh sort of break things boots on the ground sort of iraq model championed by

00:05:53.600 um george w bush and really uh whose architect was ironically victoria newland's husband robert kagan

00:06:02.080 the color revolution model was a model of massive propaganda massive lawfare hence norm eisen's involvement

00:06:13.180 he's one of the key legal architects against trump he literally wrote the book on color revolutions

00:06:18.800 in the tradition of gene sharp a cia man who originated the whole idea so the color revolution

00:06:25.820 instead of going into the place boots on the ground remove saddam you mobilize mass numbers of people

00:06:32.160 along grievance lines stolen election line that's a big one lawfare about the legitimacy of elections

00:06:41.160 often they'll use what we might describe as woke topics to exploit fissures within a society and aggravate

00:06:49.680 them to the point of mobilization and political action women's rights gay rights in russia the whole

00:06:56.460 pussy riot thing this is all follows the formula of the color revolution that has been so popular as a

00:07:03.800 regime change methodology overseas and this specific woman victoria newland is one of the key players in

00:07:12.240 all of this she goes back decades she was instrumental in what's now called the euro maidan

00:07:18.180 uprising in ukraine which is basically we use these color revolution tactics to remove a

00:07:25.440 democratically elected elected guy who is more aligned with russia on certain things and we removed him

00:07:32.060 replace him with someone who's more aligned with us that was the euro maidan before that there was

00:07:37.800 something called the orange revolution so there are many of these things and victoria newland has

00:07:42.700 been a key player one of the deep states favored color revolution architects now victoria newland

00:07:50.220 interestingly enough perfectly embodies in her biography and in her history the very concept of a deep state

00:07:58.560 state as a kind of entrenched permanent bureaucracy with its own self-sustaining special interests that

00:08:06.720 sort of exists on a plane entirely separate from that subject to the vicissitudes of democratic choice

00:08:13.440 and i mentioned her you know she herself exemplifies that she worked for hillary clinton she worked for

00:08:20.660 bush she she worked for anybody she's part of the permanent bureaucracy and as i mentioned her husband

00:08:26.460 robert kagan is one of the architects of bush's iraq war so imagine a couple where the wife is the color

00:08:34.040 revolution architect and the husband is the iraq war architect it's you know the it we're we're beyond

00:08:40.280 the case of strange bedfellows in fact the bedfellows are perfectly complementary in this respect because

00:08:46.680 they exemplify the two basic ways that the united states or the globalist american empire will um project

00:08:54.620 its um its power so and in fact imran khan he was the former prime minister of pakistan a great populist

00:09:03.940 leader i had the honor of being the last western journalist to interview him before his politically

00:09:10.320 motivated incarceration and we basically exposed the fact that victoria newland was behind the ultimatum

00:09:19.780 that basically affected a regime change in pakistan basically saying look you guys get rid of imran khan

00:09:26.720 one way or another or we're going to play hardball with you and that's precisely what they did so

00:09:32.440 her fingerprints are everywhere across the globe but nowhere are they more pronounced than in ukraine in

00:09:39.060 fact biden hasn't been hawkish enough on ukraine yeah and for hang i want to go back to this i'm running

00:09:45.980 breitbart andrew had passed away so i'm running breitbart it's now late 13 early 14 and i've set up

00:09:54.700 breitbart london with rahim kassam my young editor there uh and uh he's obviously very close to niger

00:10:01.560 farage and they come to me at the you know over the beginning of the year and say hey marahim says i've

00:10:06.880 got to go you got to uh um i got to be seconded to kiev uh for this uh this revolution that's going

00:10:14.900 on it's a color revolution it's all driven by the united states it's going to be the biggest so it's

00:10:20.280 going to change uh the direction of european politics and european history and i go because

00:10:25.740 as you know i was in the pacific fleet in the navy i've always been a asia guy as as darren

00:10:31.900 says bannon can see a ccp agent under any bed um and i'm sitting there going what are you talking

00:10:37.680 i'm saying what are you talking about kids the ukraine's basically part of russia what are you

00:10:41.960 talking about that can't be a big deal and they said no no no no no they go and i'm like shocked

00:10:47.460 nigel and and and rahim go i am shocked how big this story is and i'm sitting there going holy mackerel

00:10:54.160 the united states is actually overthrowing a government that the guy was a bad guy and a

00:10:59.720 putin puppet but it was democratically elected maybe you got a problem with the election you

00:11:03.080 got to get in that they're throwing it and this woman victoria newland who i'd never heard of i

00:11:07.420 knew kagan obviously is one of the biggest neocons ever this woman she's in the she's in modern square

00:11:13.640 handing out cookies i mean they have an american person from the state department that's running a

00:11:20.100 revolution in broad daylight and it's not like they're trying to hide it i'm going what in the

00:11:25.160 hell the by the obama guys are totally completely out of control darren beady yes 100 and you know

00:11:33.200 this it's ironic because one of obama's iconic debate lines against miss rom mit romney when

00:11:39.720 mit romney was saber rattling over russia's the 1980s called and wants his foreign policy back well

00:11:46.040 you know there's no better champion of the extended you know cold war in 1980s foreign policy than victoria

00:11:53.760 newland and it all amounts to the fact that certain elements of our national security establishment

00:11:59.680 um fully expected russia to be brought into the fold and effectively become a kind of vassal state

00:12:07.020 like the rest of europe is right now and germany is right now and it didn't turn out the way that they

00:12:12.360 had expected or wanted and they can't let that go and for that reason they cling to this priority of

00:12:19.160 europe and the atlantic and russia and they've been perennially obsessed with issues like nordstrom

00:12:25.440 too because that has to do with the energy leverage and the relationship between russia and germany so

00:12:30.400 they i'm sure they were thrilled when nordstrom too blew up when we frankly blew it up um but these are

00:12:36.860 their chief concerns and this gets to the heart of the story that we recently published about sort of

00:12:43.440 what was going on internally in the state department behind victoria newland's rather unexpected departure

00:12:51.380 and resignation it's not just a woman who is in her 60s or so forth said i had enough or you know the

00:12:57.880 biden you know we had a good run with biden but the ukraine issue is coming to a close or this or that

00:13:03.720 what happened was a little bit more explosive blink and the secretary of state chose someone else for a

00:13:11.540 job that she fully expected to get promoted to she was currently the undersecretary for political

00:13:17.840 affairs but she was expecting to be a promoted to deputy as such so basically the number two

00:13:24.220 she didn't get the job that she expected to get and instead blinkin gave it to someone called kurt

00:13:31.140 campbell who is an interesting figure for what he represents he also goes back to the obama administration

00:13:38.420 he's actually one of the architects of this so-called obama's pivot to asia the rebalancing

00:13:45.360 of our resources and attention to the rise and threat of china rather than clinging on to this

00:13:51.620 um european eastern european russian orientation and being obsessed with things like nordstrom too and

00:13:58.480 you know who's in charge of belarus and things like this and campbell was in fact a big part of the tpp

00:14:05.460 trade policy which is i'm sure you'll recall because you were one of the key guys uh uh in the trump

00:14:11.300 administration at the time um a lot of people opposed tpp for america first reasons we prefer

00:14:18.540 sort of bilateral trade agreements and so forth but the bungling purpose behind tpp was actually

00:14:25.620 to begin the process of isolating china economically and so this reflects the fact that this kurt campbell

00:14:33.400 individual was sort of a pivot to asia person but kind of inflected in that bungling and ultimately

00:14:40.160 soft obama style way but still i think it's significant more so than simply the symbolism of it

00:14:47.560 that the pivot to asia person is given this coveted role victoria newland is outraged and resigns in her

00:14:56.060 outrage basically i refuse to work for this guy she's gone and if you think of it in terms of orientation

00:15:03.240 victoria newland basically represents the antithesis of the pivot to asia in as much as

00:15:09.980 she is completely obsessed with russia so to the extent that you can read anything into it it's kind

00:15:16.640 of interesting that that's how it all played out within biden's state department help me out here

00:15:23.780 because your article if we do split screen this another this is the reason revolvers around it's kind

00:15:29.300 of these in-depth inside baseball but they're talking about huge ideas because you're seeing a

00:15:34.920 war in the uh in the administration i want to go back to this concept of deep state an administrative

00:15:39.800 state because people think hey bd and bannon got their their their uh tinfoil hats on now but it shows

00:15:45.960 you what you said about obama remember obama actually uh and i know this from the work we did when we got

00:15:53.120 you know the transition in the first months of the administration he had actually tried to have a

00:15:58.500 pivot to asia right they only ended up with one marine brigade for deployed to i think brisbane

00:16:04.140 that the the embedded nature of cencom was so hard that you're just not going to get the contractors

00:16:12.000 and not going to get and they got so many sponsors now in saudi arabia and other places the same with the

00:16:17.200 atlanticists but that doesn't that show you even with president trump that even when and you just

00:16:23.260 said earlier that she's so much more aggressive on ukraine than even biden right so you have these

00:16:28.740 guys coming to politicians you have obama you have trump you have uh biden and hey even if obama and

00:16:36.540 a biden are radical and hapless what's below them is going to do what they're going to do they got their

00:16:42.500 own ideas of how they're going to run this empire and even an obama guy wanders in there he's just

00:16:48.560 around for a couple of years if trump they actually go to war because what trump wants to do is america

00:16:53.600 first but even the democrats you know if bernie sanders or aoc showed up they're not going to do

00:16:59.220 what those guys want to do the deep state has its own uh theory of the case and it's going to run the

00:17:06.120 deal like it runs the deal and the way they can do that they have these apparatchiks like victoria

00:17:11.140 annulant who are hammers and know how to bureaucratic warfare and you can't dig them out i mean this is

00:17:17.600 what the administrative state uh has there and darren beady you saw this in your time in the west wing

00:17:22.980 indeed yes it was a huge part of the trump experience i mean the deep state the national

00:17:31.420 security bureaucracies undermining him at every turn and i think the point you raise is a good one is that

00:17:37.000 if even obama can't really implement his sort of very uh very soft pivot to asia i mean the tpp

00:17:47.380 wasn't exactly rattling the establishment but it was a reorientation at least but if he can't even

00:17:54.880 fully affect this pivot to asia and get the bureaucracies in line because you know hillary clinton is not

00:18:01.440 necessarily a pivot to asia person at all and you know victoria and hillary is much more aligned with

00:18:07.840 i think the victoria newland perspective ultimately um if even obama can't do it someone who challenges

00:18:15.780 the system as radically as trump it just gives people a better sense of what he was up against as

00:18:25.020 someone who was formerly in charge of the executive branch but was really at war with much of the

00:18:31.380 executive branch i can't understand i want to go back to victoria newland's um testimony with

00:18:39.260 little marco senator marco rubio when he asked kind of a throwaway question on um on uh bioweapons labs

00:18:46.760 in ukraine and all of a sudden she's like and wanted to go to closed session he goes no no just answer the

00:18:52.420 question and it raised all kind of issues what is it what is the obsession the fetish

00:18:59.620 on ukraine i mean today earlier in the show in the morning show and i mentioned the five o'clock too

00:19:05.360 you got you got johnson sitting there telling the senate with all this madness going on with still the

00:19:11.340 second half of this budget the two and a half trillion dollar deficit everybody up in arms but no

00:19:16.320 woken weaponized out he's talking to senators now about somehow gun decking the process to get to

00:19:22.240 ukraine 60 billion dollars up there what is the obsession what is the fetish that the victoria

00:19:28.440 newlands of the world have with ukraine because that i keep saying when we get when we rip that scab

00:19:36.000 off the pus that's going to come out of there is going to shock the american people sir well i mean

00:19:42.220 quite simply and i say this i i have tremendous respect uh for the ukrainian people i think it's a very

00:19:50.020 difficult position that they're in but the unfortunate reality is it's one of the if not the

00:19:55.560 most corrupt states um in europe and that's saying a lot it's the most corrupt state in in eastern europe

00:20:03.000 maybe with the exception of more minor places like moldova and so forth but it's extremely corrupt it's

00:20:09.620 run by a handful of oligarchs it's a wild west kind of situation i've heard other commentators i think

00:20:15.720 fairly accurately describe it as this is you know russia was total mayhem in the 90s and ukraine is kind

00:20:24.780 of still that way ukraine is what you know russia would have remained had it remained in the fold of

00:20:33.560 western influence effectively so it's uh but the fact that it's so corrupt means that anything goes it's a

00:20:41.140 perfect playground of corruption for western elites people like biden and you know just for the kind

00:20:47.800 of superficial and crass reasons of they can make a lot of money doing deals with these corrupt oligarchs

00:20:55.140 who run ukraine but of course given its its geographic position and its historical position

00:21:02.740 it functions as an outpost for this foreign policy geopolitical obsession with russia it is the

00:21:11.840 preeminent outpost for that and so over time these two things the corruption and the geopolitics merge

00:21:19.180 and it just becomes this big cesspool like one of the most polluted swamps in the world because

00:21:26.080 people like biden but not just biden pretty much anybody you can think of uh they're dipping their

00:21:32.580 fingers in that well and getting some money out of it extracting resources and also reinforcing this

00:21:38.700 failed foreign policy orientation that doesn't seem to have any real objective other than i suppose regime

00:21:45.000 change in russia would you agree that blinken knew what he was doing here it's symbolically putting

00:21:52.640 kurt campbell the pivot to asia guy as number two and passing over uh nuland that is essentially firing

00:21:59.000 her that she would be forced to resign uh and that this is the biggest tell we've had that that that

00:22:04.660 inside the biden regime they understand that the ukraine thing's a failure and they've put it on her

00:22:10.240 right but blinken once says not this is not my deal it's her deal she's running from the beginning

00:22:15.420 the biggest thing of not sending the 60 bain is that hey they just fired the person that ran the deal

00:22:20.740 right your thoughts on that 100 percent i mean there's no way he couldn't have known these are the most

00:22:27.080 i mean these are their avatars like if any they're they're you know uh symbols of different foreign

00:22:33.740 policy perspectives victoria nuland would be on one extreme and perhaps this other individual who is

00:22:38.540 not a radical by any means you know he's kind of a milquetoast bureaucratic functionary but still what

00:22:45.240 he represents is something that is very different from the perspective embraced by nuland and the

00:22:50.640 perspective that has uh led to our continued involvement in ukraine so i'm sure that blinken

00:22:57.620 was well aware of the symbolism there if not any kind of more substantive underlying policy shift

00:23:04.940 and the optics as well and there was no way somebody as uh strong-willed as nuland was going to stay

00:23:13.140 and answer to the pivot to asia man last question i was in the pentagon i came off sea duty where i was

00:23:22.160 in had been the north arabian sea the western pacific persian gulf and came back the day that

00:23:26.340 president trump or president reagan took office back in 81 and our whole plan was to take down the evil

00:23:32.740 empire and you know i was a aid to the chief of naval operations but and my destroyer had been a destroyer

00:23:40.280 that was built and our sole purpose was the plane guard carriers and to act as anti-submarine warfare

00:23:46.060 against russian fast attack submarines so i had eight years of my 20s solely focused on one thing

00:23:52.580 taking as a junior grundune part of the cog in the machine of taking down the soviet union

00:23:57.820 i never saw the hatred at that time being inside the pentagon the bolsheviks were terrible the soviets

00:24:04.420 were bad guys eastern europe was captured nations there's something changed there's a there's a there's this

00:24:10.020 visceral hatred of uh putin and these guys and even the russian people that would never existed

00:24:16.980 and i was there i you can't tell you that was my experience i spent four years at sea and four years

00:24:21.800 in the pentagon or three and a half years in the pentagon there what is driven the victorian newlands

00:24:27.380 and all these people focus on have this this rabid hatred of all things russian now and the kgb are

00:24:33.260 bad guys putin's a bad guy he's a criminal just like he's a junior varsity version of she but what it

00:24:38.680 why have they shifted many people who fought reagan who who supported the bolsheviks supported

00:24:44.040 the soviet union fought all of what reagan tried to do what what what has brought about this raw

00:24:49.240 hatred sir well that's a great question especially in our politically sensitive time where you're not

00:24:55.640 really not allowed to have prejudice or bigotry toward anyone the uh the way that you're allowed and

00:25:03.720 really expected to talk about russia and russians is uh totally outside of the bounds that usually

00:25:11.380 apply to discourse in that way um so it is very strange um you know people have advanced different

00:25:19.080 theories some have even said there's a kind of old old world world scores to settle a lot of these

00:25:25.800 russia hawks have um backgrounds extending to russia themselves uh which is kind of an interesting

00:25:33.260 mode of analysis um but as i said there's also the geopolitics of it which is that these people

00:25:41.280 expected russia to be in the fold they expected russia to be a vassal state um people often forget that

00:25:49.080 yeltsin was basically a u.s puppet but yeltsin chose putin and everyone had the expectation that it

00:25:57.320 would continue that way under putin and he just surprised everyone it wasn't a situation like

00:26:03.280 trump running and everyone knew this guy was challenging the system from the very beginning

00:26:08.320 when putin was put in place people thought he would play ball and obviously he didn't so i think there's

00:26:14.940 a lot of grievance that extends from that as well so it's a combination of factors but it's clearly

00:26:21.660 reached pathological status and of course the last factor that is very unfortunate but simply part of

00:26:27.680 our political reality is in the united states today in our hyper-polarized domestic political

00:26:34.180 environment it is simply impossible to disaggregate foreign policy from domestic policy so people kind

00:26:40.920 of project their hatreds of trump onto the foreign policy that in their fake narrative he represents which

00:26:46.700 is russia and so forth so i think that's a big element of it as well just hang on one second i'm

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00:32:30.380 with revolver thank you so much steve revolver dot news revolver dot news as always cutting edge

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00:33:34.720 there are no coincidences there are no coincidences cia i also want to remind our viewers that we had

00:33:43.860 darren on here almost four years ago talking about the color revolution victoria newland before the 2020

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00:34:01.800 darren kind of said hey here's what to expect so darren thank you so much for being uh for being

00:34:06.520 signal not noise thank you thank you steve it's one of the reasons that's you know about that time

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00:34:18.120 we partnered with birch gold and uh started to do the end of the dollar empire we knew that this

00:34:23.280 fact about de-dollarization inflation because these people are out of control and they believe in this

00:34:28.540 theory called modern monetary theory which is this kind of came out of france and it's basically

00:34:34.240 deficits don't matter you can still keep printing fiat currency and it doesn't matter because you're

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00:35:03.400 make sure you go to birchgold.com slash bannon talk to philip patrick ask him why gold has been a hedge

00:35:09.120 for i don't know six seven eight thousand years of man's recorded history and why it's today

00:35:13.920 a hedge today and that's why you see it every couple of days at an all-time high we got a great

00:35:18.920 cold open from joe allen there's been so much going on artificial intelligence and the singularity

00:35:23.080 i'm so glad to have john here let's play the cold open come back to joe allen

00:35:26.400 hey figure one what do you see right now i see a red apple on a plate in the center of the table

00:35:33.160 a drying rack with cups and a plate and you standing nearby with your hand on the table

00:35:38.740 great can i have something to eat sure thing

00:35:42.060 great can you explain why you did what you just did while you pick up this trash

00:35:54.340 on it so i gave you the apple because it's the only uh edible item i could provide you with

00:36:03.920 from the table what do you mean by create life what i think is that human beings are some sort

00:36:11.920 of a biological caterpillar that makes a cocoon that gives birth to an electronic butterfly

00:36:17.480 i think we are creating a life form and that we're merely conduits for this thing and that all of our

00:36:25.320 instincts and ego and emotions and all these things feed into it materialism feeds into it we keep

00:36:30.900 buying and keep innovating and technology keeps increasing exponentially and eventually it's going

00:36:37.100 to be artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence is going to create better artificial

00:36:41.820 intelligence and a form of being that has no limitations in terms of what's capable of doing

00:36:48.400 and capable of traveling anywhere not having any biological limitations in terms of that's going to be

00:36:54.080 ourselves i mean we're going to be able to create life uh that is like humans but far greater than we

00:37:02.740 are today with an integration of technology yeah if we choose to go that route but that's the prediction

00:37:09.160 that you have that we will go that route like a neural link type deal something along those lines

00:37:14.040 right so i don't see this competition like the things are gonna no i don't think it's competition

00:37:19.680 well it will seem like that i mean if you have a job doing coding right and suddenly they don't

00:37:27.080 really want you anymore because they can do coding with a large language model it's going to feel like

00:37:32.300 it's competition this is digit don't let this viral clip fool you because digit is spearheading the

00:37:38.540 warehouse automation movement where bipedal robots are no longer the stuff of science fiction amazon's

00:37:44.200 recent collaboration with agility robotics and their digit robot is the talk of the tech towns

00:37:49.240 amazon's announcement about testing digit came as no surprise for those tracking the company's

00:37:53.920 innovative trajectory with an ever-growing demand to speed up delivery times reduce human related

00:37:59.060 errors and further optimize their supply chain amazon's move to test digit is a calculated and

00:38:05.020 forward-thinking one the garden it's going to feel like it's competition

00:38:08.660 joe walk me through there because i i put it gave you a big report i haven't had a chance to put it up

00:38:16.800 on getter yet but this whole thing of humanoid fleets of humanoid robots are about to be deployed

00:38:24.000 and this is going to have a massive impact eventually on on employment on job opportunities all of it

00:38:29.660 in fact a photo in the article i had had a human had a guy sitting there at the amazon plant and the

00:38:35.320 robot was right in back of him looked like doing the exact same thing kind of a humiliating photo to put

00:38:40.280 up but also i want to talk to you about all these reports out now coming from government government

00:38:45.180 reports they're saying we could be extinction level with ai so let's start with the what we just saw

00:38:51.040 in your cold open in the humanoid robots but you've warned about this and you warned about it in your book

00:38:55.400 uh what homo deus and uh the um or dark aeon uh and you warned about this but now it looks like it's

00:39:03.020 coming to fruition sir yes i gotta say steve the uh the pace at which they're rolling out

00:39:10.980 humanoid robots has surprised me quite a bit i've been tracking this for the humanoid robots for you

00:39:18.440 know well over five years and i can remember uh even uh longer than that when when sofia first came

00:39:26.200 out and that was 2016 south by southwest very very uh clunky very very shaky kind of intentionally so

00:39:33.680 but uh what we're seeing now with optimus from tesla uh with the figure one that you saw there

00:39:42.800 figure now being partnered with open ai to integrate language into the humanoid robot and then on a

00:39:51.100 practical level uh agility uh robotics partnering with amazon to start rolling out humanoids in amazon

00:39:59.160 fulfillment centers it actually has taken me by surprise i know that at least part of it is these

00:40:06.120 companies trying to get ahead of each other and show that they're going to be the the future of ai and

00:40:11.980 the future of robotics some of it is uh made confusing by the overhype but the products themselves the

00:40:19.860 ais and the robots themselves uh are not just smoke and mirrors what you saw there with at the

00:40:28.260 very beginning with the figure one robot being able to communicate with the person look at what's on

00:40:34.860 the table identify uh the the objects in the space and then respond to commands and explain what it's doing

00:40:41.380 it's known as multimodal ai where you have multiple narrow ais that function in an integrated fashion

00:40:51.840 it's sort of a precursor to artificial general intelligence and it's not practical yet i mean this

00:40:59.140 is a very new endeavor but it works and it works well and it works better than the ais did even just a few

00:41:08.160 years ago and when you look at the practical implications of this when you think about

00:41:13.300 amazon fulfillment centers being filled already with you know non-humanoid robots the sort of

00:41:19.820 kind of like uh you know carts on wheels and things like that now coupled with humanoid robots and the

00:41:27.800 openly declared intention on the part of amazon to eventually have fully autonomous fulfillment centers

00:41:35.440 and the openly declared uh future within the next 10 years elon musk is always saying of fully

00:41:41.780 autonomous vehicles to do the deliveries what you're talking about is total replacement

00:41:47.060 yes okay hang on so i want to go back on this because you're there and by the way the book uh

00:41:53.080 homo uh dark aeon is uh is magnificent it's and i recommend everybody get this give it as a gift

00:42:00.900 this is something you can sink your teeth into you understand the depth of the problem now i want

00:42:05.240 to go back to you because i believe you're among the top three to five people in the country that

00:42:11.840 follow this both broadly and in depth uh to get here you got to have regenerative robotics and

00:42:19.520 artificial general intelligence correct me if i'm wrong sir did did elon musk who's essentially said

00:42:25.920 he's got one of the most advanced human or robotics at tesla but he's also said that tesla is essentially

00:42:32.160 an artificial intelligence company did he not just say a tweet a day or two ago that he believes that

00:42:39.180 uh by 2029 artificial general intelligence will be here and it'll be greater than all the minds and

00:42:45.880 all the brains in the history of the earth all human intelligence yeah the viewers at home can see the

00:42:52.440 tweet uh right there on screen this was uh three days ago two days ago i'm sorry and uh you know

00:42:58.320 musk i think really in response to the interview with joe rogan and ray kurzweil says ai will probably

00:43:05.820 be smarter than any single human next year by 2029 ai is probably smarter than all humans combined

00:43:14.520 now he's really reiterating ray kurzweil's prediction that by 2029 2030 we'll have as he predicted it a

00:43:25.460 human brain in full digital simulation what we're actually moving towards is something quite different

00:43:32.740 from what kurzweil said but the general contours are the same musk has repeatedly in the last few months

00:43:40.420 kind of uh paid a certain degree of respect to ray kurzweil you also hear it from greg brockman

00:43:47.100 president of open ai all across the board what what they're saying is that right now you have systems

00:43:54.820 like gpt4 you have claude 3 that we've been covering that's just been released that meets all of these

00:44:01.760 different intellectual benchmarks well above the average person what they're saying is that already

00:44:08.760 you have ai systems that perform certain cognitive tasks better than in in some cases 99 percent of

00:44:17.880 all human beings meaning that the smartest human being isn't going to be replaced by such a system

00:44:23.660 but 99 percent of human beings uh at least in theory could and that's that's certainly the intention

00:44:30.160 but with the arrival of something like artificial general intelligence whether you believe that it's

00:44:35.780 going to be what they're saying it is or whether you just simply say this is actually a system that's

00:44:41.460 technically proficient across language mathematics spatial reasoning uh you know the manipulation of

00:44:47.340 robotic limbs so on and so forth what they're saying is you're going to have a system that is superhuman

00:44:53.540 on every on every level it is going to be a god and so what elon musk is promoting in his this

00:45:00.100 philosophical sense is the idea that human beings will be made obsolete

00:45:06.060 okay this is the point i want to go back to now you see what kurzweil is saying you see what um

00:45:16.100 elon musk is saying and they're not talking remember we started this journey together about the singularity

00:45:22.200 and about ai and the and all the converging factors of regenerative robotics agi quantum computing

00:45:27.860 advanced chip design uh biotechnology uh everything to do with crisper but people were talking about

00:45:35.480 it's going to happen in 2050 or it's 30 years away or 40 years away now you have two of the biggest

00:45:40.120 experts in the world are saying at least an aspect of this but at least the mental aspect or a thinking

00:45:44.960 aspect is within five years right i mean a huge shift from the 25 30 50 years now we're in five years as

00:45:53.800 war room and stephen k bannon has said and you know and i'm glad that these guys join me but where

00:46:01.300 you've actually watched it the tell here is what's happened on humanoid or the the specific case of

00:46:07.920 humanoid robotics and you're following it because i'm telling you right now it is shocking how sophisticated

00:46:15.660 the entire system has gotten in a short period of time people are also talking that it would be

00:46:21.060 a decade away or a couple of decades away the advances they made and so my point is there are

00:46:26.300 things that are happening behind research walls of companies at darpa at governments not just the

00:46:32.720 united states government others that are so more more advanced than what is being talking about and then

00:46:38.560 all of a sudden you get dropped like you just saw about the humanoid robotics and now they're talking

00:46:43.000 about putting out fleets of these the the business stories actually are shocking in the coordinated way

00:46:50.360 it looks like business is even thinking about it my point is this is happening as i've said

00:46:55.700 accelerating at an accelerating pace across the board joe allen

00:47:00.760 it definitely gets very incestuous at the top and it's certainly merging uh on just on the strictly

00:47:08.300 corporate level you've got open ai partnering now with the department of defense you've got open ai

00:47:14.780 partnering with figure to create a humanoid robot that uses open ai's artificial intelligence systems

00:47:21.740 and then you know figure also has major investment from jeff bezos so at least you see the the beginnings

00:47:28.940 of a partnership there with anthropic and clog 3 the system just released i would argue the most advanced

00:47:37.620 of all the chat bots at this point that's also funded by amazon and google and then with the you know

00:47:45.180 the new program cognition uh devon it's a it's a it's an ai that is much better at copilot or gpt

00:47:55.260 at coding at writing the code itself this also just released a few days ago and that's funded by peter

00:48:02.960 teal and also pushed by guys like mark andresen for more the right leaning uh right leaning position

00:48:10.320 in the the kind of transhumanist world so yeah you know in the end whether it's like a a kind of

00:48:16.220 lefty like ray kurzweil or sam altman or a centrist like elon musk or a more right leaning uh libertarian

00:48:24.600 type like peter teal or mark andresen all of them are painting a picture in which human beings are to

00:48:32.100 either be replaced by ai and robotics or we are to integrate with them in meaningful fashions so

00:48:39.460 that we still remain relevant there's every reason to be skeptical of the power of these systems but i

00:48:46.160 i think that it would be a huge mistake to dismiss any of them and the predictions are oftentimes off by

00:48:53.380 a number of years or whatever but the general picture this picture of a singularity this direction of

00:48:59.540 a moment in which the machines begin improving themselves to the point that human beings are

00:49:04.500 simply no longer in the loop even if they don't create the perfect machine right the the engineer's

00:49:11.700 dream they have enough money and political clout to implement whatever comes out the other end of that

00:49:17.620 process and they're preparing the public to accept the authority of artificial intelligence as being

00:49:24.640 greater than your own critical thinking your own mind and they're conditioning the public to basically

00:49:30.400 accept their uh demotion at best or replacement at worse the new gods uh where they get the book where

00:49:39.500 they get your writing sir you can find the book anywhere books are sold uh if you are bitcoin savvy

00:49:46.540 have a look at canonic xyz but of course amazon bookshop and the publisher skyhorse you can find all my

00:49:52.560 social media at j-o-e-b-o-t-x-y-z and of course warroom.org under the transhumanism tab

00:50:00.680 joe it's always an honor to have you on here the work you've done has just been extraordinary of

00:50:07.400 learning the public of what and the book it puts it in a spiritual warfare context that you've got to

00:50:12.260 understand thank you so much brother thank you very much steve

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WarRoom Battleground EP 493： The Hidden Secrets Of Victoria Nuland

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