Bannon's War Room - March 15, 2024


WarRoom Battleground EP 494： Beware The Ides Of March： The Collapse Of The Traditional Family

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Gaius Julius Caesar was a Roman general who was assassinated in the first century CE. His death was mourned by the Roman people, who called him "the greatest Roman general of all time." Caesar was the first Roman Emperor, but he was also known as "Julius Caesar." He was a man of many talents, but most of all, he was an ambitious man.

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00:00:00.000 The Senate will hear Marcus, Tullius, Cicero.
00:00:30.000 On this eve of his most glorious triumph, I move that Gaius Julius Caesar be made imperator
00:00:43.340 and granted absolute power over Rome for a period of ten years.
00:01:00.000 As some of you know, Caesar and I have had our disagreements.
00:01:20.500 However that may be, he has shown himself to be as wise and merciful in victory as he
00:01:37.620 was invincible in battle.
00:01:39.780 Now, let this be an end to division and civil strife.
00:01:48.260 I willingly pledge my loyalty to him and I urge you all to do the same.
00:01:54.720 I heartily commend the motion proposed by Marcus, Tullius, Cicero.
00:02:01.860 The motion is carried unanimously.
00:02:20.860 Many of you here today fought against me.
00:02:34.660 Many of you wished me dead.
00:02:39.460 Many of you perhaps still do.
00:02:41.340 But I hold no grudges and seek no revenge.
00:02:49.400 I demand only this.
00:02:53.280 That you join with me in building a new Rome.
00:02:59.140 A Rome that offers justice, peace and land to all its citizens, not just the privileged few.
00:03:09.760 Support me in this task and old divisions will be forgotten.
00:03:16.240 Oppose me.
00:03:19.640 And Rome will not forgive you a second time.
00:03:32.760 Senators!
00:03:33.760 Pressure on.
00:03:53.380 Pressure on.
00:03:53.960 Pressure on.
00:03:55.380 Pressure on.
00:03:55.880 anda вер make you fallУ.
00:03:56.380 oppose on.
00:03:58.640 sein demeure.
00:04:00.800 ours in出来...
00:04:01.640 群えら!
00:04:02.640 Go, go, go.
00:04:32.640 Go, go, go.
00:05:02.640 Go, go, go.
00:05:32.620 Go, go, go.
00:06:02.600 Go, go, go.
00:06:33.180 What man is that?
00:06:37.280 A soothsayer bids you beware the Ides of March.
00:06:41.540 Set him before me.
00:06:43.140 Let me see his face.
00:06:44.980 Fellow, come from the throng.
00:06:46.080 Look upon Caesar.
00:06:59.000 What says thou to me now?
00:07:02.280 Speak once again.
00:07:03.340 Beware the Ides of March.
00:07:07.140 He is a dreamer.
00:07:11.980 Let us leave him.
00:07:12.900 Pass! 0.99
00:07:15.460 Oh, Caesar, will thou lift up, Olympus, great Caesar?
00:07:31.760 That's not brutus bootless, Neil.
00:07:37.340 Spiaxen for me! 0.99
00:07:39.160 They're right?
00:07:40.000 iffe se andesh.
00:07:49.220 Hey! 0.99
00:07:49.960 Hey! 0.99
00:07:50.640 Hey! 0.99
00:07:51.760 Hey! 0.99
00:07:52.360 Oh, my God.
00:08:22.360 Oh, my God.
00:08:52.360 Oh, my God.
00:09:01.360 And fall, Caesar.
00:09:10.080 Oh, my God.
00:09:19.080 Liberty!
00:09:21.500 Freedom!
00:09:22.460 Tyranny's dead!
00:09:23.600 Run, Hengs! 1.00
00:09:24.080 Oh, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, that I am meek and gentle with these butchers.
00:09:54.060 Thou art the ruins of the noblest man that ever lived in the tide of time.
00:10:01.600 Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood. 0.98
00:10:08.920 Over thy wounds now do I prophesy, which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips to beg the voice and utterance of my tongue. 0.99
00:10:19.440 A curse shall light upon the limbs of men. 0.98
00:10:24.920 Domestic fury and fierce civil strife shall cumber all the parts of Italy.
00:10:29.620 Blood and destruction shall be so in use and dreadful objects so familiar that mothers shall but smile when they behold their infants quartered with the hands of war.
00:10:37.280 All pitied shout with custom of fell deed and Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge with Ate by his side come hot from hell, shall in these confines with a monarch's voice cry,
00:10:51.160 and let slip the dogs of war, that this foul deed shall smell above the earth, with carrion men groaning for burial.
00:11:06.160 Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears.
00:11:15.940 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
00:11:20.160 The evil that men do lives after them.
00:11:24.540 The good is often turd with their bones.
00:11:26.980 The noble Brutus hath told you Caesar was ambitious.
00:11:34.180 If it were so, it was a grievous fault.
00:11:37.460 And grievously hath Caesar answered it.
00:11:40.800 Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest, for Brutus is an honourable man, so are they all, all honourable men,
00:11:47.260 come I to speak in Caesar's funeral.
00:11:50.600 He was my friend.
00:11:53.660 Faithful and just to me.
00:11:57.840 But Brutus says he was ambitious.
00:12:00.720 And Brutus is an honourable man.
00:12:04.680 He hath brought many captives home to Rome, whose ransoms did the general coffers fill.
00:12:10.260 Did this in Caesar seem ambitious?
00:12:12.660 When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept.
00:12:17.360 Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
00:12:19.600 Yet Brutus says he was ambitious.
00:12:22.360 And Brutus is an honourable man.
00:12:24.860 You all did see that on the Lupercull, I thrice presented him a kingly crown, which he did thrice refuse. 0.66
00:12:33.680 Was this ambition?
00:12:35.560 Yet Brutus says he was ambitious.
00:12:37.920 And sure, he is an honourable man.
00:12:41.800 I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke, but here I am to speak what I do know.
00:12:48.920 You all did love him once, not without cause.
00:12:58.680 What cause withholds you then to mourn for him?
00:13:03.020 O judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason.
00:13:08.360 Bear with me.
00:13:18.180 My heart is in the coffin.
00:13:20.980 Bear with Caesar.
00:13:22.160 This is what you're fighting for.
00:13:30.500 I mean, every day you're out there.
00:13:33.220 What they're doing is blowing people off.
00:13:34.620 If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
00:13:43.540 Because this is just like in Arizona.
00:13:46.500 This is just like in Georgia.
00:13:47.680 It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
00:13:52.780 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
00:13:55.060 As we've told you, this is the fight.
00:13:56.960 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
00:14:00.860 War Room. Battleground.
00:14:02.680 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:14:04.700 Okay, our annual remembrance of the Ides of March.
00:14:09.700 It is Friday, 15 March, year of early 2024.
00:14:13.140 Of course, very powerful from the 1953, I think it was 1953 Academy Award nominated,
00:14:18.940 and I think Academy Award winning for cinematography and for art direction.
00:14:24.040 Julius Caesar, and of course, from HBO's Rome, and then ending with Damian Lewis's amazing performance there.
00:14:32.720 Damian Lewis, you remember, from Billions and Band of Brothers, I think others.
00:14:36.920 But it's contemporary today, and I want to bring in our own Darren Beattie over at Revolver.
00:14:42.800 Darren, yesterday we did kind of part one of the color revolutions, and you mentioned the couple.
00:14:48.020 The reason today this is so relevant, I mean, Robert Kagan, when you talk about Victoria Nuland
00:14:53.160 being kind of the intellectual architect of the color revolution strategy of both the Obama administration
00:14:59.600 and the Biden regime, her husband, on one aspect, is on the other side of the football
00:15:05.420 because he's a neoliberal neocon, but actually he's a big believer in the deep state of the administrative state.
00:15:11.300 He wrote a piece, and I believe it was in January of this year, and I think it was 3,000, 4,000,
00:15:18.580 in the Washington Post, the Jeff Bezos Amazon Washington Post,
00:15:21.920 that was kind of the Red Caesar, where he takes the exact events of the Ides of March or 15 March
00:15:30.500 in ancient Rome at the end of the Republic and actually brings them up to today
00:15:36.800 where he makes the moral case.
00:15:38.460 Kagan, who's one of the most powerful public intellectuals out there,
00:15:43.720 makes the case that were Brutus and what Brutus and the Assassins did was justifiable to try to save Rome.
00:15:51.940 He makes the same case, really makes the moral case, why you could have an assassination of President Donald J. Trump.
00:15:59.800 Can you tell us who Victoria Nuland's wingman is and why he is so dangerous, sir?
00:16:06.380 Well, again, it's interesting to look at all of these families.
00:16:13.440 The bipartisanship is not only in—it's really not bipartisanship so much as it is transpartisanship.
00:16:20.800 These permanent bureaucrats exist on a plane that transcends the partisan divisions that animate so much of retail politics. 0.71
00:16:31.200 I think that's one of the central insights of the term deep state, which originated, I think, in Turkey, to refer to a similar situation there.
00:16:41.720 I think Pakistan is a great example through their intelligence agencies of a deep state. 1.00
00:16:47.300 And in our case, if there's anything of a deep state, then certainly Nuland and her husband are great representatives,
00:16:55.040 not just because of how entrenched they are, not just because Nuland herself served both Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush,
00:17:03.720 and her husband is one of the preeminent architects of the Iraq War.
00:17:09.640 And so in one sense, they're all over the place, but in another sense, it makes—you know, it's reasonable that they're together
00:17:17.620 because they're representing the same underlying interests.
00:17:21.060 And I think we only really began to understand viscerally and directly just how coherent those interests were when Trump came up and challenged them.
00:17:34.340 Because when there's no radical challenge, you can get caught up in the superficial differences that present themselves at the retail level,
00:17:42.740 the superficial differences between, say, a George W. Bush and a Hillary Clinton.
00:17:48.420 But when somebody like Trump comes along, it really helps to clarify just how similar Hillary and George W. Bush are,
00:17:59.300 and, of course, how similar Nuland and her husband are.
00:18:02.640 They represent two different faces of the deep state and two different regime change methodologies,
00:18:08.480 the color revolution, which is now the preferred model in the aftermath of the failure of the Iraq War.
00:18:15.160 There's simply not enough political capital to have another Iraq War. 0.98
00:18:20.540 And so the regime has relied even more heavily on the softer color revolution version that is really heavy on propaganda,
00:18:30.000 really heavy on mass mobilization, really heavy on leveraging our NGO cutouts that are, you know, carefully and strategically placed across the globe
00:18:41.040 to basically marshal this type of response when we need it.
00:18:45.740 So it's two sides of the same coin, effectively.
00:18:48.920 As for Kagan, his own family is quite interesting.
00:18:52.480 Again, it's, you know, this is a method of analysis that's largely foreign to public and accepted discourse about politics,
00:18:59.820 because, of course, the sophisticated people talk about ideas and ideologies and orientations.
00:19:06.160 And those are important, but there's almost a sense in which the underlying, the substrate,
00:19:13.700 the substrate of who belongs to what family, what the actual networks are, what the sociology is,
00:19:20.700 is just as important, if not more so, than the kind of window dressing often of an ideological perspective.
00:19:28.180 In the case of Kagan, he's from a neoconservative family, quite a celebrated family, actually.
00:19:34.220 His father was a great professor of classics at Yale, Donald Kagan,
00:19:40.500 who was one of the authorities on the Peloponnesian War, actually.
00:19:45.720 And so you see this trend among neocons as their parents were actually, in many ways, venerable figures,
00:19:53.880 certainly intellectually serious.
00:19:56.080 You see this in, you know, one of the joke neocons who's truly disgraced and beclowned himself, Bill Kristol.
00:20:03.320 Bill Kristol's father was actually an interesting figure and had a lot of interesting ideas.
00:20:09.180 And, you know, the first wave of neoconservatism that Irving Kristol represented was largely focused on domestic policy,
00:20:16.100 sort of criminal reform in the direction that we would like.
00:20:19.660 And so it's a complicated issue when you go far enough back in history.
00:20:24.360 But it's no question that the sons of these men, of the sort of the great generation men like Irving Kristol and Donald Kagan,
00:20:34.840 the sons respectively, Robert Kagan, Bill Kristol, or in the case of Podhortz, you see the same phenomenon.
00:20:43.320 Norman Podhortz, not that I'm a huge fan, but he's certainly superior to the offspring,
00:20:49.800 John Podhortz, who is a complete joke and a complete slop, and frankly shouldn't be embarrassed whenever he pokes his head out in public.
00:20:59.060 So, again, you get into this sociological analysis, this family analysis, it becomes very interesting.
00:21:06.320 And Robert Kagan is not just a supporter of the Iraq war.
00:21:10.200 He was an architect.
00:21:10.920 He was one of the driving forces behind the PNAC Organization Project for a New American Century,
00:21:17.260 which was the preeminent think tank pushing the Iraq war and basically the invasion and regime change in several countries,
00:21:25.140 which Wesley Clark famously exposed in a video that I think it would be great if your people could get a clip of it,
00:21:31.880 where Wesley Clark reveals, oh, I just was at the Pentagon, and they said,
00:21:35.440 we have a plan to do regime change in seven countries, something like that.
00:21:40.600 This was Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland's husband.
00:21:45.820 And, of course, these people all hate Donald Trump because Trump represents a threat to their power,
00:21:52.140 and he exposes the extent to which they're all in bed with each other.
00:21:56.040 And in the case of Nuland and Kagan, that's a quite literal statement.
00:21:59.880 So I think that's sort of a good place to start with Robert Kagan.
00:22:07.740 How can they – I mean, is it shocking to you that the Washington Post could put up –
00:22:14.040 and today on the Ides of March you see that because a lot of people make the argument Shakespeare's play should be called Brutus, right,
00:22:20.680 because the play is really about Brutus and the conspirators that assassinated Caesar.
00:22:26.500 Is it irresponsible for a guy like Kagan and irresponsible for a paper like The Washington Post to actually publish,
00:22:33.500 which to me is quite evident, is to take the moral high ground on a potential assassination attempt on President Trump?
00:22:42.860 Yes. I mean, it's certainly irresponsible if that's a suggestion.
00:22:46.580 The article is not fresh in my mind, but I remember it vaguely,
00:22:49.960 and I remember that this has become kind of normalized in the discourse, this idea of assassinating Trump.
00:22:56.980 And you've seen it in various manifestations.
00:22:59.540 And obviously, I mean, it's totally unacceptable,
00:23:01.740 and it's something that would be completely unheard of and out of the question
00:23:06.460 if it were about any other elected officials, certainly Democrat elected officials,
00:23:12.200 but even, you know, normal domesticated Republicans.
00:23:15.860 It just exemplifies how Trump is this unique threat to this dirty, entrenched system
00:23:23.100 of which Kagan and his wife Newland are such prominent representatives.
00:23:30.840 How dangerous do you think it's going to get for our movement, for leaders in our movement,
00:23:38.120 and people like President Trump as it becomes more and more evident every day?
00:23:41.500 You know, you've seen the collapse of lawfare.
00:23:44.280 Now, Andrew Weissman, they're all turning on each other.
00:23:46.460 This Fani Willis, we documented that with in the previous hour.
00:23:50.040 However, it's obvious if you look at every metric, if you look at all the polling,
00:23:55.260 I mean, the MAGA movement's rising, you know, every ethnicity, every religion,
00:24:00.540 every racial group, working class people, this populist nationalist movement is rising with a power,
00:24:07.120 particularly after they did everything to suppress us.
00:24:09.380 How dangerous do you think it is overall for all of us going forward?
00:24:14.740 Well, it's very dangerous.
00:24:15.980 And, you know, the assassination talk about Trump is, you know, completely beyond the pale,
00:24:21.540 but it represents how psychologically unhinged they are, because from their perspective,
00:24:27.520 such a thing, God forbid, would be horrible, because anybody knows, you know,
00:24:31.360 the last thing you want to do is create a kind of martyrdom out of your political enemy.
00:24:37.420 I mean, they would be much better off to stall him out,
00:24:41.380 and maybe they think that Trump is particularly vulnerable to these kinds of threats,
00:24:46.200 that he's concerned about assassination attempts.
00:24:49.100 That's why they're bringing it up as a kind of psychological warfare method.
00:24:54.000 But they're certainly counting on the lawfare strategy, which I think is, you know,
00:25:00.200 the outrageous stuff is the assassination talk.
00:25:03.060 I think the more serious stuff in terms of what's practically going on
00:25:06.700 are all these extracurricular tools principally the lawfare mechanism that they're using
00:25:12.420 to defeat Trump through extracurricular means.
00:25:16.220 And I've characterized the election strategy, as it appears to me in 2024, for the Democrats is twofold.
00:25:23.560 One is at the retail ballot box level, and they're really going to lean into the abortion issue there.
00:25:30.120 The other is the extracurricular level, and that is the lawfare, all these legal challenges,
00:25:35.440 removing Trump from ballots, burying him in sham criminal charges.
00:25:39.980 And for the extracurricular strategy, January 6th and the lies surrounding January 6th
00:25:46.460 are actually a major pillar of that.
00:25:48.900 That's the whole theory that, you know, January 6th was an insurrection and Trump is an insurrectionist.
00:25:53.840 And so all of this stuff that I've been doing on January 6th is actually very relevant
00:25:59.280 to the narrative stakes on 2024, because the whole sort of extra-democratic approach
00:26:07.680 that the Democrats are taking rests largely on the lies embedded in the January 6th narrative
00:26:15.440 from the regime's perspective.
00:26:16.920 Darren, can you hold on for one second?
00:26:20.880 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:26:21.940 You've got another amazing piece up about the traditional family that we've got to get into.
00:26:27.000 I want to put it on people's radar to read over the weekend.
00:26:30.080 So Darren B. is going to take a short commercial break.
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00:31:47.240 War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:31:52.960 Okay, I've only got him for a few minutes, short minutes, but you talk about turbulence.
00:31:57.140 You talk about turbulence.
00:31:58.120 Here we're for the Ides of March special.
00:32:00.980 It still lives.
00:32:02.240 Robert Kagan, one of the most prominent public intellectuals, wrote a piece about the Red Caesar.
00:32:06.780 That would be Donald Trump and the moral justification of an assassination attempt.
00:32:10.260 Next piece by the team over Revolver is going to shock you even more, I think.
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00:32:35.660 Why is it a hedge, and why are the converging forces that every couple of days gold reaches an all-time high?
00:32:41.460 Darren Beattie, we are populist, nationalist, traditionalist.
00:32:45.200 The third part of that, the traditionalist, you're pretty shocking when you talk about—I want people to focus on this article, the collapse of the traditional family before our eyes.
00:32:55.280 The other day, Gallup reported that 30 percent, I think it's millennials or Gen Z, I think it's millennials, 30 percent of millennials, females, report that they're gay.
00:33:06.420 Talk to me about your article.
00:33:09.860 Yes.
00:33:10.280 Well, the report on the LGBT, or gay for short, that, I believe, applied to Gen Z.
00:33:20.080 This piece is about family formation and shows there's record lows in terms of the older millennials, females, basically early 40s, late 30s, in terms of having families.
00:33:33.400 And, you know, it's one of those things, people have families or they don't.
00:33:40.080 It's not something to scold about.
00:33:42.060 There is probably a lot of propaganda that would deter people from doing that, which is unfortunate.
00:33:47.360 But I think one kind of underexplored notion of it is all of this kind of propaganda attack on family formation is part of this acculturation preparing psychologically the population for decline in standard of living and giving people narratives to help people cope and accept that.
00:34:12.660 And so, you know, on one hand, you say, oh, people are not having families due to, you know, environmentalist ideology.
00:34:20.580 And that could be correct, maybe on a more surface level.
00:34:24.320 But the environmentalist excuse for not having family is sort of a more psychologically palatable excuse than, oh, you simply can't afford it.
00:34:33.820 You can't reach that milestone that you want.
00:34:36.040 So you find, oh, it's not because I can't afford it. 0.96
00:34:38.400 It's not because the economy is crap.
00:34:39.980 It's not because, you know, it's the economy has been particularly difficult for this kind of older millennial generation. 0.95
00:34:48.220 But, no, it's because of environmentalism.
00:34:51.020 So what would otherwise be kind of a sad failure becomes a virtuous display of ideology.
00:34:58.940 And I think we see this in other domains as well, not just in the family formation thing.
00:35:05.380 I think all around you, you see ideologies and narratives set up to help younger people cope with the fact that the standard of living is so much worse than it was and it's not getting any better.
00:35:18.980 And if you want to see an example of where all of this is going, you need only to look to Europe, because Europe is really at an end stage of this process.
00:35:29.940 So people are completely resigned to having a bad standard of living, and it reflects in their attitude toward, you know, wealth, you know, kind of the poverty, you know, grungy lifestyle is celebrated.
00:35:44.680 It's normal not to, you know, have a house until you're very old, and I understand, like, the home buying situation is different there.
00:35:51.400 But the European attitude is very much now completely equilibrated to the realities of this disastrous economy.
00:36:01.280 And I think there are a lot of mechanisms at work kind of slowly, psychologically preparing the next generations in America for accepting, even embracing this new reality of having a low standard of living, where, to quote the WF, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
00:36:21.400 That being happy, that's where the propaganda work comes in.
00:36:27.360 Doesn't this set it up, I know you've got to bounce, but doesn't this set it up that this should be the best time ever for MAGA, America First, the economic policies to get away from this debt enslavement?
00:36:37.820 Now should be our time to run the tables on this generation and bring them on board our political movement? 1.00
00:36:44.700 I certainly think so.
00:36:46.340 You know, you just need, you need a message that works.
00:36:50.180 And more so on this, you know, you need a policy that works.
00:36:52.900 And some of the policies are deeply entrenched.
00:36:55.720 A lot of these economic problems are, unfortunately, very deeply entrenched.
00:36:59.860 But there's even stuff more kind of at the surface that you can do that would vastly improve things.
00:37:05.720 There's no, you know, secret that the economy was far better under Trump than it was under Biden.
00:37:11.880 And the reasons for that are, you know, quite simple and don't even, in many cases, require going to a kind of even a specifically populist approach.
00:37:21.760 Trump's economic approach in many respects was sort of, you know, conventional free market stuff.
00:37:29.400 And, you know, there are a lot of problems with that, but it's better than the stuff that Biden and the Democrats want to do.
00:37:35.880 So there are some easy fixes that can be done.
00:37:41.660 But unfortunately, I think, as you know, there's there are also deeper structural issues that I think will be far more difficult to correct and would require sustained, competent, really excellent leadership over the course of several decades.
00:37:57.680 Darren, where do people go, you're one of the leading intellects in back of the Trump and the MAGA movement, where do people go to get to this amazing site we call Revolver?
00:38:10.580 Revolver.news, get the latest on the economy, get the latest on geopolitics and society.
00:38:16.260 And, you know, every now and then we like people to have a laugh.
00:38:18.600 We're not Babylon Bee, but we did publish a piece in that vein.
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00:38:25.540 It's Gaza supporters vow to fly only Boeing until they die or Palestine is free. 0.92
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00:38:43.180 Social media, where do people go to find you?
00:38:46.360 On Twitter, we're at Darren J.
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00:38:56.600 Darren, thank you so much.
00:38:57.740 Thank you for everything you guys do over Revolver.
00:38:59.360 Appreciate it.
00:39:00.040 Thank you, Steve.
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00:39:38.500 Dave Walsh, I had to get you on because following this story about late family formations or maybe no family formations, this amazing piece in the New York Times, it's almost like it's schizophrenic.
00:39:50.460 But I just want you to explain to the audience again, because it is a cult and it's a dangerous cult, this cult of climate change, this cult of limited, we have limited energy.
00:40:02.900 Because that's leading – that's the economics underneath it that this generation – the generations under 30, under 40 aren't going to have the economic opportunities because it's a self-imposed – we're the most advanced industrial nation in the history of the earth.
00:40:18.300 We're actually the most advanced, even post-industrial nation in the history of the earth.
00:40:24.620 All of that's predicated upon a reasonable, smart, and aggressive energy policy.
00:40:29.860 We have the exact opposite, and you see that nothing can get turned around until that's changed.
00:40:35.880 And you can't change that until you change the mindset of the leaders of the elites in our nation that are into – they've left Christianity, they've left normal, you know, the great religions.
00:40:47.100 And they're part of a medieval theology cult that is the cult of climate change, sir.
00:40:53.840 Yeah, you can't have a developed industrial economy without massive quantities of baseload, continuous duty, electricity.
00:41:03.620 So they got onto this.
00:41:05.420 The chart, by the way, they published between 07 and 22.
00:41:08.900 You do have two major recessions that occurred in 08 and the one during the COVID period outbreak.
00:41:14.060 And also, you've had a 15-year period of deindustrialization moving ahead, largely because of high energy costs, electricity specifically, and the lack of it.
00:41:25.240 So, yeah, we're emerging out of that.
00:41:27.440 What these guys did, though, they bumped into some folks who were on the point of this beer actually worried about lack of electricity and lack of electrification from too much renewables.
00:41:36.180 And that is the major grid operators.
00:41:38.980 The utilities are coordinated in major regional councils.
00:41:43.580 One is MISO.
00:41:44.640 One is CERC down here.
00:41:47.520 One is CAISO, California, the California region.
00:41:50.640 The other is PJM, Maryland, Virginia, eastern Ohio, into major coordinating regions.
00:41:56.960 Well, the folks who run those coordinating councils are sounding the alarm bells over too little electricity left in the system.
00:42:04.900 Now, fortunately, they've come up with a better way of explaining it, and that is too much demand.
00:42:09.880 Looking at specifically server centers and data centers, for example, as a key demand driver, along with Bitcoin facilities.
00:42:16.260 But if you stay focused on server centers and data centers, we built in Mitsubishi for Dominion Energy a 1,500-megawatt advanced, state-of-the-art, super-clean, super-high-efficient combined cycle plant in Warren County, Virginia, two more in southern Virginia.
00:42:30.680 But that plant mainly was all about serving the massive data center load back in 2007, 8, 9, emerging in Reston, Dulles, out through Warren County, which is a big deal.
00:42:44.560 Data centers, the trunk lines from Europe come into northern Virginia with data, a huge data center region, a huge electrical demand required.
00:42:53.140 A plant that big supports a million seven people, about half the capacity went to data centers.
00:42:58.480 That's a huge thing.
00:43:00.200 Dominion Energy's resource plan, integrated resource plan for the next 20 years, openly calls for, because of the continued shutdown of coal plants by them,
00:43:08.860 and not building any new plants like the Warren County or like the Brunswick plant or like the Greensville plant we built for them, huge ones, building no more of that capacity.
00:43:19.080 They're even calling for, in their integrated resource plan, a 25,000-megawatt supply gap that they'll have, unidentified, because they know they're not a lot of talk about new coal.
00:43:31.380 They're not a lot of talk about new combined cycle generation.
00:43:34.920 They're only a lot of talk about wind and solar.
00:43:36.940 They understand the deficiency that that brings in part-time energy.
00:43:40.440 Again, five hours a day solar, about seven wind.
00:43:42.900 And therefore, they're projecting a dominion directly in their integrated resource plan, a huge shortage.
00:43:49.700 Now, the spin in this article was looking at this from the demand side, which is the other side of the equation of the shortage.
00:43:55.960 Yes, electrical demand is growing.
00:43:58.720 You want it to grow.
00:43:59.640 You want server centers in this country.
00:44:01.360 You want data centers in this country.
00:44:02.880 If you force them offshore because of the lack of electrification, because of part-time renewables that are really tinker toys with respect to the amount of electrification needed, not to mention EV batteries, you'll have a more rapid out-migration of key industry in the country.
00:44:22.360 I want to go to – this is what makes no sense.
00:44:28.400 You've got the cult that wants to destroy fossil fuels and the development of fossil fuels or any nuclear or any real energy source, yet they're also the biggest pushers of this post-industrial economy, which is based upon artificial intelligence.
00:44:43.240 You've got digital currency.
00:44:45.300 We talk all the time at Birch Gold.
00:44:47.340 I'm putting out my fifth part of the installment at Birch Gold is on a central bank digital currency.
00:44:53.080 So here's what makes it schizophrenic.
00:44:56.720 On one hand, they are actively going through programs that guarantees you will not have the baseload continuous operations you need to run this type of advanced industrial economy and post-industrial economy.
00:45:10.240 Because the post-industrial, note to self, actually takes more electrical power, and they're pushing AI.
00:45:16.980 They're pushing quantum computing.
00:45:21.240 They're pushing everything that drives you to the singularity that requires more energy, and they're pushing digital currency.
00:45:27.500 Yet at the same time, they're taking every action to make sure you can't have it.
00:45:30.800 That's schizophrenic.
00:45:31.860 Am I wrong in that assessment that they are somehow weirdly destroying the same thing they're trying to push because you're not going to have the power to do it?
00:45:39.300 Steve, you're totally correct.
00:45:41.400 And the only thing you left out of that list was the 10 more million people that have shown up, which would necessitate, if they're going to have the lifestyle we've had before they came, another 10,000 megawatt power plants to support electrification for 10 million people.
00:45:54.920 But no, if we stay focused on server centers and data centers that AI is all about, and even what we're doing here right now is driven through a data center somewhere, the electrification for those is constant, all day long, 24 hours a day.
00:46:09.840 They run 24 hours a day.
00:46:11.960 Get this, just like hospitals.
00:46:13.960 Get this, just like large refrigerated food distribution centers run all day long.
00:46:19.040 As you're growing server centers and data centers and electronic currency management facilities, you need all day long continuous baseload electricity.
00:46:29.320 Wind and solar don't provide that.
00:46:31.540 They provide a few hours a day.
00:46:33.460 Battery storage picks up another two hours a day.
00:46:36.140 You need 24-hour-a-day electricity of the type to clean coal, combined cycle, which we should have called recycling the exhaust for 50% more energy, very efficient, and nuclear power provide.
00:46:48.320 But in large quantities, not, I mean, we all knew in the industry 40 years ago, 30 years ago, when wind and solar came out, they were marginal bit players to, yeah, you can harvest a little bit of energy now and then.
00:47:01.140 Nothing has changed with that technology.
00:47:03.320 The sun only shines enough a day for about five hours on average, up north, four and a half hours, then northern Virginia and further north, to provide, you know, interim, intermittent, part-time electricity.
00:47:15.920 That was known before.
00:47:17.520 It was in the narrative before in the industry.
00:47:19.540 But now we've switched the narrative around to somehow think that this has all changed and this stuff can be the basis of electrification.
00:47:25.980 It can't be.
00:47:26.940 It can't be.
00:47:28.000 It's inadequate.
00:47:28.620 England and Germany are poster children for the deindustrialization that's resulted from this. 0.91
00:47:35.700 Now, I want to push out, and we'll figure out how to get it past the paywall.
00:47:39.300 The New York Times, correct me on this piece that's just out.
00:47:43.920 They essentially emit this and give us a chart that shows you what the problem is, correct?
00:47:50.000 Totally.
00:47:50.400 No, and the spin is, oh, we get this surge in demand.
00:47:55.760 Well, the surge in demand in that chart corrects for two recessions that were significant.
00:48:00.420 One was brief, fortunately, the more recent one.
00:48:02.660 But also the fact of the matter that we have had a prolonged period of deindustrialization, steel plants, chemical plants, paper mills, cement plants,
00:48:12.520 the type of industry refinery specifically that needs a lot of electrification, we have begun a period of decline beginning in that time period in this country,
00:48:23.100 which has also affected electrical demand.
00:48:26.740 Now what's displacing that, server centers, data centers, and here we find ourselves woefully short.
00:48:31.460 These grid operators that they interviewed are all on the point of this beer beating the drum of exactly what I've been saying on the show,
00:48:38.960 that we don't have enough electricity in the system anymore because we've torn down in those key markets.
00:48:46.320 100,000 megawatts of coal has been taken offline and now being torn down.
00:48:51.020 That's all baseload energy.
00:48:53.020 That's 12 percent of the U.S. electrical supply before this happened.
00:48:55.980 And it's been displaced with some gas, but with a bunch of stuff to the extent of about 40 percent with very, very part-time technology.
00:49:04.820 The grid operators have been talking about this for some time.
00:49:07.820 Now they've fashioned the spear with talking about it in terms of demand.
00:49:13.480 Demand is outstripping what they have to supply in active 24-hour-a-day power plants.
00:49:19.220 And it's because what we're displacing baseload stuff with is stuff that works very, very part-time and intermittently.
00:49:25.980 Dave, I want to bring you back for another time.
00:49:28.980 I mean, President Trump was full-spectrum energy dominance.
00:49:31.620 And if you get the new Peter Navarro book, The New MAGA Deal, by going to newmagadeal.com,
00:49:38.940 you see all the policies that made us so successful in the first term and will drive America to complete full-spectrum energy dominance in the second.
00:49:46.500 But at the state level, like in South Carolina and Florida, I mean, we've had very conservative, very red states fall into this trap of kind of buying into what the cult of climate is selling.
00:49:58.300 Am I incorrect in that?
00:49:59.380 Doing exactly the same thing.
00:50:01.220 North Carolina, South Carolina specifically, Florida very specifically, building out now massive quantities of solar power that operate knowingly, knowingly, very, very expensive to build.
00:50:12.900 Four and a half times more costly per kilowatt hour generated than basic gas-fired power and only support five hours a day.
00:50:20.380 So they're beginning to gut here in the southeast also, buying into incentives and acceding to the pressure of the EPA to keep coal plants offline and new gas plants, don't build them,
00:50:31.600 because of now the threat to shut them down beginning by 2035 if gas plants aren't hydrogen-converted and or carbon capture applied.
00:50:41.480 Therefore, you can't operate them economically.
00:50:43.320 We're seeing a huge solar build here in Carolinas.
00:50:46.120 Tennessee has been affected, TVA has announced numerous service curtailments and warnings already when it gets cold, not enough power.
00:50:54.240 No, this is happening nationally.
00:50:55.780 This is happening across the country.
00:50:57.620 It's very sad.
00:50:59.480 President Trump will turn this around.
00:51:01.200 Good plug for the book.
00:51:02.420 I've got a chapter in there on energy.
00:51:04.320 Very proud to be, and we're pushing for the great Peter book to be very successful.
00:51:09.660 No, New Maga Deal.
00:51:11.600 Dave Walsh is one of the major contributors to it.
00:51:14.020 Go to newmagadeal.com, Winning Team Publishing.
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00:51:18.560 Dave Walsh, social media, where do people get you?
00:51:21.120 The fine man getter, Dave Walsh Energy and Truth Social, same handle.
00:51:24.620 Thank you, Steve.
00:51:26.980 Thanks, brother.
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