WarRoom Battleground EP 500： Protests In Ireland; The Mainstream Views You As Slavish Dedication To MAGA
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Ronna McDaniel appeared on Sunday's Meet the Press. It was her first appearance since NBC News hired her as a political analyst. John Ava and Mika discuss why they object to her hiring and why they think she should not be hired.
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Ronna McDaniel. Well, she was on Sunday's Meet the Press. It was her first appearance since NBC News hired her as a political analyst.
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I know you won't be surprised to know that we've been inundated with calls this weekend, as have most people connected with this network, about NBC's decision to hire her.
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We learned about the hiring when we read about it in the press on Friday. We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if we were, we would have strongly objected to it for several reasons, including, but not limited to, as lawyers might say, Ms. McDaniel's role in Donald Trump's fake elector scheme and her pressuring election officials to not certify election results while Donald Trump was on the phone.
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To be clear, we believe NBC News should seek out conservative Republican voices to provide balance in their election coverage, but it should be conservative Republicans, not a person who used her position of power to be an anti-democracy election denier.
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And we hope NBC will reconsider its decision. It goes without saying that she will not be a guest on Morning Joe in her capacity as a paid contributor.
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Did Joe Biden win the election fair and square?
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Fair and square, he won. It's certified. It's done.
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There are a lot of conservative Republicans that serve for Donald Trump that I disagree with, but, but they stood up on January the 6th.
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They spoke out. I mean, it's this inverted pyramid. And again, taking one for the team, it's such a clarifying statement.
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I, yeah, you know, one thing I've been struggling with, John, and I know you have too, I've been struggling really, really hard, and Mika will tell you this, for years, but especially as we're moving into this new election cycle,
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I'm trying to understand a lot of people that I grew up with in the church, a lot of people who are unrecognizable now when you talk politics, because I'll tell you the team, I guess it's how we define the team.
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For me, the team, it's a pyramid. It's God, country, constitution. For me, conservatism. For others, it's being progressive. It's liberalism.
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And, and that's how it goes. Politicians and parties, for me, have always been at the bottom of, of, of that, that list.
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And for some reason, it's been inverted. So instead of God, country, constitution, conservatism, and then politicians and party, it's been inverted. And now it is Donald Trump.
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It's Donald Trump. And everything flows from that. So when, I guess I shouldn't, when I hear that, I, I, again, it's very clarifying. I guess I should, I guess I shouldn't be staying up, trying to figure out what happened to them.
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This is what happened to them. They, they, they completely, their value system flipped. And Donald Trump's on top. And everything that's done goes through that filter. And everything is justified. Everything he does is justified. Political violence is justified. His lifestyle is justified. His hatred is justified. His racism is justified.
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All the things my friends would have justified. All the things my friends would have spoken out about when I was growing up, when Bill Clinton was president, when they were so shocked and stunned and deeply saddened by Bill Clinton. Now, the pyramid is flipped. And instead of God on the top and then country and constitution and conservatism, it is Donald Trump. And everything's inverted in the opposite direction.
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And I suppose all in pursuit of power, shards of glass inside media is 12 splintering realities though. Of course, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps this may be a bit relevant, but I, but it is important to note that we, you are right. We have so many outlets out there. We've got podcasts. We've got social media often, you know, producing sound and
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fury that's fury that signifies nothing, but it's not just the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, et cetera, et cetera. You even look at Fox News who lost a great deal of their audience after the 2020 election for, for a fairly short while for simply giving their viewers the election results for simply saying Joe Biden won. A lot of them left for Newsmax, left for other conservative networks.
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So it seems that people on the left will find, uh, find their media outlets. Uh, and it, it's caused this blendering as you've said. Yeah, there, no doubt. Like the, and you think about it, like the shattering has been taking place for years, but I think it's fully broken now. And I think a good example is Fox news.
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Fox news four years ago, if you kind of wanted to know what Trump thought or what kind of most Republicans who are going to vote thought you can reliably go to Fox news. And that might be it. The truth is, if you really want to know what Trump thinks or what a Trump supporter thinks, you're probably going to go to Steve Bannon's podcast or Charlie Kirk, or go follow the, the, the social media feed of Donald Trump Jr.
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or go to true social places that most people, unless you're a real Trump or you're never going to go. So you're not even going to understand the reality through the prism of where we would have looked at it a couple of years ago.
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Or you just read from a wall street journal, conservative editorial page, editorial that used to be where you would figure out what conservatives thought. That's now a very, very slim part of the Republican party. It's kind of the Mitt Romney part of the party and more sort of the conventional conservative. And that's just in the political sphere. You could be sitting at a table with a group of people and you might never really interact with their reality. It might be somebody who gets most of their news from an influencer.
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They trust on Instagram, or you could have a kid to your right. Who's, who's following people on Tik TOK that you and I would think are aliens or names we've never heard of. And they're ingesting this content five, six hours a day. And I think it just makes it that much harder to really understand for a lot of people, just like what's real. And something's really hot in my area or other people paying attention to it.
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Well, what about this idea that the 2020 election was stolen? You think that these companies should allow people to say that and individuals can make up their own mind and that there should be-
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I think the American people are smart. Look, I've not said that. What I've said is there were concerns about the 2020 election. I think Americans agree with that.
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No, they don't. You don't think they think there were concerns with the 2020 election?
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Most people don't question the result. That's all I'm saying. They don't question whether Biden won or not. Right? Right?
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Yeah. And let's just dig into some of the issues that could turn this race looking ahead in these two states. First of all, on abortion and democracy, these are the two issues where Biden has an advantage. The only two issues where Biden has an advantage in both states.
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Then you look at other issues, U.S. and world affairs, economy, immigration, Israel, Gaza. Trump has an advantage. And it's actually-
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If you look at the Israel-Gaza question, the fact that Trump has a 20-point advantage in Michigan, I mean, the world is upside down.
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okay the world turned upside down it's monday 25 march in the year of our lord 2024
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we're kicking off holy week what an explosive explosive day quite appropriate for holy week
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particularly with the uh the religious i don't know connotations of this election the spiritual
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war that we're engaged in i want to bring in now my um head of international the warms head of
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international from rome it is um ben harnwell ben i really want i haven't had a chance to say this
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because we've been so jammed so crazy i got to give a hat tip to lord cornwallis who selected
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that song the world turned upside down uh for the pass and review uh of the uh at the at the day
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of the surrender in 1781 at yorktown because he realized it was such a monumental occurrence
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that the world was turned upside down by the defeat of the british imperial power by these kind of
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englishmen essentially with a handful of poles and uh and and and the french that uh that overthrew
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the british uh empire uh and uh it's very i think analogous to the day the world is turned upside
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down where you've got this um cadre this movement globally that we've been a part of building that's
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now starting to every day see get more self-confidence more empowerment they're they're they're taking
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things back they're making statements they're they're driving the narrative and driving the
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conversation your thoughts as you see it from because you've got a unique perspective people don't
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realize ben was in the european european uh parliament but he also knows the the tories and
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the english parliament you know all the revolution that's going on there right now so an extraordinary
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time is it not sir it is steven i think the firstly uh good afternoon to you i think the whole war room
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posse would agree with me here that it's basically this maga movement now uh that really represents
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and encapsulates within itself the very pure essence of that revolutionary spirit of 250 years ago and
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it's basically simply it's okay so you change the the the technical uh battleground and the labels on
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the battlefield but it's basically simply a fight for self-determination as it has always been
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you know the the the sociopathic overlords might change from century to century and generation to
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generation but really this is the american aspiration just to be able to live your life
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in peace peaceably uh with you with your neighbors and for oppression the tyranny of government just to
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get out of your private lives i'm very sadly and this has been happening for a number of generations now
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the democrats that the left the traditional left of the political spectrum um which didn't start off
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like that basically the left the old left just simply wanted a better deal for the ordinary labor
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laborer excuse me um it's now just turned transmogrified into this sort of woke sludge
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slowly um which is really corrupting and undermining american values and that's why we have this this
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political spectrum which is so divided down the middle because it can't even agree on the fundamentals
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anymore you know if you're talking about mathematics and arithmetic there's no common denominator now in which
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you can sort of play around with these factions there are two basically nations living in the same
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territory with radically different and irreconcilable views and you have that the maga if i if i can say
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this is a basically a johnny foreigner peeking in through the window but you have that the maga movement
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which is basically um just there's just ordinary people who want to get on with the lives get the
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government out of their of their lives not paying for the government intrusion by the way through their
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huge taxes and then the other half their friends families neighbors and what have you geographically
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separated perhaps to to broadly the coastline positions in the united states that want more
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government they want more government intrusion to people's lives and these positions aren't
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reconcilable um and this you know there are iterations of this battle steve taking place right across
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the world but in its purest form it's taking place in the united states and if the american experiment
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succeeds or fails uh which is basically what this current battle is all about that's when we're going
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to see the knock-on consequences across here in continental europe is where the people here think it's still
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worth fighting for a degree of uh of freedom and liberty does it although we're having this huge fight
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because we've got trump and the maga movement and people are awakening but i would argue isn't isn't
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this overwhelming nature the apparatus to suppress human freedom and and human dignity isn't it much
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more advanced in in europe and this is why you you you hear when somebody like uh or bond stands up
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and says no you're not we're not going to invade my country we're going to keep our culture we're going
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to keep uh we're going to keep our society and he fights soros they they completely and totally melt
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down i mean isn't i think it's is it more advanced in europe and this is why you don't see a peep
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like what the germans did on um on this mass immigration or mass migration the swedes didn't do anything
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at first now it's a massive battle in sweden yet they still don't want to talk about it you hear about
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it on war room and other sites uh like war room or people putting up uh clips on uh on social media
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but is it in this fight we have in the states that we're fully engaged in is it not actually more
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advanced and quite frankly losing now you've got this populist wave in the european parliamentary
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elections coming up but isn't it so far gone and i i'm talking about continental europe i'm even
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talking about england where i think it's so far gone it's disgraceful your thoughts
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i need to divide those questions into two steve firstly um look no i don't think it is the same
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um there's something of the american battle which is unique and far more advanced i think than what's
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happening here uh in europe and one of the reasons is because there's a phenomenon in america which
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doesn't have any sort of corollary here in italy or not even in hungary for example or wherever that
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that the battles might provisionally be winning and that is in the united states there is an engaged
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populace which is as is as radical if not more radical than the political uh leaders that it's
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electing to represent it and it's really the people themselves who are um you know i think this this
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what this transmission this show has a great deal of responsibility for this uh for this reality
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but you have an engaged people and an engaged participating people look at look at the if it
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were not for the maga movement in the united states steve there is no way on earth that congress would not
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have given the 60 billion dollars over to zelensky six months ago it is only the the repeated presence
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of of the american people hitting the phones hitting the switchboard lobbying their congressmen lobbying
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their senators that there is a paralysis in the political um in the political infrastructure uh
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which doesn't have a an analog here in continental europe because here once you have perhaps a degree of
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anger um here basically the idea is you elect your leaders let them sort of sort of represent you and
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then come back in five years and see how good a job they've done the the idea of how you know this this
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this word that you use repeatedly on the show of agency there is no analog for that here in the
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european union which is why i've said sort of this isn't the first time i will have said this on on the
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war room steve but i think america has a chance if it can if it can get its stuff together um and focus
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america has a chance of making it into the next hundred years as as a free country whereas i don't know how
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much hope i i i give to continental europe the the european union member states or or or the uk because
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we simply don't have that sort of uh level of engaged participating people and that is so essential
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and you can see the difference because the mess here the mess here is more advanced but as the
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opposite point that the chances of victory in america exists and and and they're they're they're
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significant perhaps even the majority if i were to put it in percent percentage terms that's not
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the case here in continental europe steve let me i want to play another cut from morning joe and i
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and i'll talk more about the end of the dollar empire later i want to play they're coming in on
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the first day of holy week because this is a spiritual war they're coming in as hard as i've
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ever seen them come in on this audience you're nothing more than uh than cult members let's go
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ahead and play for morning joe this morning honey we shrunk the joe majority uh it says conservatives
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have long had a strong anti-washington impulse which is useful given the federal government
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so relentless strive to expand its own power but breaking that drive and rolling back power
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requires calculation and often incremental gains all the more so in a divided government the posers
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of the house gop remind us of a comment former jim senator jim de mint said that he'd rather have 30
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senators who agreed with him than a republican majority congratulations to mr de mint the current
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house gop is close to realizing this ambition john republicans keep quitting they want no part of
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this the chaos continues it gets worse uh republicans themselves are saying we've accomplished absolutely
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nothing this session uh and and now they're talking about vacating the chair again i i i just
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the the incompetence uh the the political the political insanity is just again it's just beyond
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i can't imagine voter and the wall street journal editorial page agrees i can't imagine voters and
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contributors aren't looking at this going uh we didn't pay for this and we're not going to vote
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for this or support this for two more years yeah it's the distinction isn't it between a political
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party and the way we understand them uh as governing elements uh within a constitutional structure
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and a cult right i mean if you're going to be ideologically if you want to be so pure uh in your
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loyalty to the whims and appetites of one person who tells you what to do and then you do it no matter
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what versus uh a party that uh i think let's let's go ahead and just do edmund burke here on monday
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morning you know a body of men united you know a body of men united for uh a kind of common purpose
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uh and that what he meant was a governing purpose and yeah the governing purpose here is not in many
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all in all uh this once noble party uh has become a vehicle for the appetites of one person and it's
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these moderate republicans who are just bailing and the great question as we've talked about forever now
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is at what point does the party itself begin to put interests of of ideas and governing above uh the
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yeah they've always been they've always been huge in ideas neoliberal neocon this is the group that
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gave you the iraq war gave you the afghanistan war three nine trillion dollars over there this is the
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this is the governing party ben this is the governing party that agreed to two years of unlimited spending
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with no caps this is mccarthy no caps and no caps on deficits and to kick it uh for uh 90 days past
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the uh 2024 election so that people couldn't actually vote on this you couldn't this wouldn't be on the
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ballot right now these deficits this the whole thing about the governing wing that they're governing
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what would edmund burke say about that is this do you say from rome does maga and the deplorables
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look like a cult to you that are totally tied to the atwood slavish uh following of the appetites
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of uh one individual sir no of course not steve speaking for myself i mean donald trump
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i don't expect to um but i'm quite happy to say as a great fan of the united states i i love i love
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president i think he's the best president of america in in my lifetime um but i'm in this movement
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because of the ideals i'm in this movement because the american people the maga the maga
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component of the american people have commissioned their leader to go out there and win battles that
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they cannot do by themselves they've seen president trump as the only person who can close the deal
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and political terms on a number of the key issues like securing the border um sort of keeping america
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out of unnecessary wars getting the budget under control they see president trump is the only person
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that they can commission to go in there and to do that as we've used the expression before on the
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show basically this is the last chance for for for america for half the population of america the last
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chance that america has to reform itself from the inside um so i'm in this for the ideals i'm not in
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this for for um for a person that i'm speaking for myself and all the americans i know who who equally
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um love and and respect donald trump say exactly the same thing um so i have detected no in my empirical
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evidence no personal experience of this being a personality cult it is it is a you know there is a
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level of feeling um and and emotional connection between the the people of this movement the great
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citizens of this movement and their champion their political champion that they that they expect to go out
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there and and and to to to win the battles they're trying to empower him to do i've never seen that
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kind of emotional connection before um you know in any country that that i've ever lived in it is really
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sort of unique sui generis um it's of its own type um but that doesn't make it a personality cult it just
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makes uh the the connection between the people and their in this case their elected representative
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so special of course they don't understand that in the democrats because there's no real loyalty in
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in the democrats they they they they have all the sentimentality of angry xenomorphs they would chew
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each other to bits um and in fact i think we're going to see that happen before november um without
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even blinking because for them it is simply about getting the job done you know whether you do that and
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how you do that uh and what means you employ to do that is absolutely uh immaterial that you know
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that's why i think you've expressed in the past a great deal of respect for someone like
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nancy pelosi or even hillary clinton because they're they're they're going out they're ruthlessly
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in pursuit of the agenda and half the schmucks we're electing aren't even interested that quote for
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example by senator jim de minne that really i mean i'm not going to trust msnbc uh to give me the
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context of that but that surprised me i thought i thought this guy was one of our guys i thought he
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was a sort of a tea party tea partier who went off uh he left the senate didn't need to go off and run
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the heritage um foundation i'm surprised he would say something so explicitly uni party but um you know
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that's that's that is a that is the repeated disappointment steve we've had in this movement
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uh ben hang on we're taking a short commercial break and come back when everybody to
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action action action action more than just beautiful dance it's a touch of the divine
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more than just legends it's the beautiful culture and wisdom of china before communism
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more than just a performance it's an experience that awakens the soul
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see it at least once in your lifetime shen yun an all-new production every year
00:31:54.740
i can't recommend uh going to see a cultural event more than this shen yun go to shen yun.com and here's
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why uh what the marxists are trying to do in our country what they're doing in or the neo-marxist in
00:32:07.920
europe is they're trying to destroy traditional values they're trying to destroy traditional structures
00:32:13.620
our traditional culture the family if you see today what china has become and you compare that to what
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china once was particularly culturally you're absolutely stunned and what the shen yun team
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has done is going back to classical chinese civilization the dancing uh the costumes just
00:32:32.480
all of it's absolutely breathtaking and this is where you're seeing lao baijing at its finest remember
00:32:36.980
uh there's no higher priority uh against our mortal enemies the chinese communist party then
00:32:42.380
they're overthrow by having lao baijing's back and once you see shen yun you'll see what they're
00:32:48.620
fighting for they're fighting for their traditional culture uh and it's quite extraordinary if you if you
00:32:53.340
understand the cultural revolution this is what it was to destroy that's why we're going through a
00:32:57.700
cultural revolution here and that's why you're going through a cultural revolution in uh in europe
00:33:02.960
because they know they need to destroy just like the french revolution they need to destroy the
00:33:07.000
family they need to destroy the traditional family they need to destroy the traditions of society
00:33:12.760
mal call it got to get rid of the four olds right got to destroy that well shen yun and go to shen
00:33:17.900
yun.com you'll just have an extraordinary breathtaking evening there's a whole they're going throughout the
00:33:23.240
entire country so they're going to come to a theater near you ben i want to take a second and with
00:33:28.520
everything that went on today and us being called a juggernaut and all this the shards is because this is
00:33:33.500
about fighting this is about not giving up you saw president trump today in new york city it's quite to
00:33:38.280
me amazing that we start holy week with president trump being brought up before the uh what before
00:33:44.800
the pharisees or the uh the sadducees or uh or or the you know caiaphas and and the judges right in in
00:33:53.920
this phony trial both to strip his property like a moscow show trial but also this i don't know the
00:33:59.900
stormy daniel's whatever this thing is which is another phony trial uh in your case so peter
00:34:05.060
peter navarre is in prison right peter navarre is in prison for standing up to nancy pelosi on which
00:34:11.660
was a phony committee they didn't have a ranking member it didn't have a minority council this is
00:34:16.260
why there was no cross-examination this is why so many people perjured themselves and you see that
00:34:20.820
with evidence that's coming out and also i want to make sure people know that you're in the same way
00:34:25.640
and this is what's happening if you stand up against the apparatus they are going to come
00:34:30.380
after you and the two things they're going to try to do is use the law to try to come after you and
00:34:35.280
if they can figure out criminally remember peter navarre was about not answering a subpoena to
00:34:40.440
congress which if this happens even gets illegal in the history of the country it's always done civilly
00:34:46.180
i think peter i think it's been done one time criminally and it got dropped immediately and then
00:34:51.100
there's two people that have come up to criminally peter navarre myself and we both make although my
00:34:55.580
arguments a little uh i would think more in depth than peter's he makes generally directly the same
00:35:01.600
argument one is about this committee but in your case the same way and what they're trying to do is
00:35:06.120
use the law to try to shift it criminally this is why trump is is today 700 years in prison and for
00:35:13.220
people don't think that they don't want him to die in prison you are wrong they want to see him in
00:35:17.340
prison they want to see him die in prison just go to twitter and read the feed over there or listen
00:35:22.200
to the keith overmans of the world or even the morning joe's they want him in prison the other
00:35:25.880
is to bankrupt him and this is why i keep telling people like with home title lock and others
00:35:30.200
we need you at the ramparts we need you as a cutting edge as a cadre that's why maga this
00:35:35.780
empowerment this agency's done so much but all they're going to try to whether it's credit card
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debt or back taxes or whatever they can do to distract you and take your time and resources
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they're trying to bankrupt you this is what they tried to do to you personally both to bankrupt you
00:35:49.760
to drag it out for years and suck up legal fees but also to bankrupt you personally and to put you
00:35:56.020
in prison one of the reasons i'm so proud of you you had a prison term you were looking at and at any
00:36:01.180
time we could have we you could have weaseled around and try to cut some deal and you go no way
00:36:04.700
we didn't do anything wrong by the way i i want that monastery i think it'd be a great headquarters
00:36:10.220
for the academy of the judeo-christian west i think we're fitting perfectly but you also said
00:36:14.460
i never did anything wrong in fact i did everything by the book and i'm not going to sit here and let
00:36:19.020
them have even a a optical uh you know performative media victory your your the words of as we start
00:36:27.400
holy week uh to this audience as we look at the persecution uh and death execution of jesus christ
00:36:34.720
and his resurrection uh and and and draw it out to what's going on today between the maga movement
00:36:39.780
on a worldwide basis steve well yeah i mean it is a calvary isn't it um for the whole for the whole
00:36:47.040
of our movement right across the world you know coming back to what you were saying um i would be
00:36:52.960
in prison i would lead i mean up until what was 7th of march right two weeks ago up until before the
00:37:00.360
judge the judge retreated into her chamber to consider her verdict the last words said by the state
00:37:06.800
prosecution was that they they they said themselves that they asked the judge to acquit me totally on
00:37:13.120
the charges of um of having participated in the public tender fraudulently they said they took on
00:37:19.320
that case because of statements that had been made publicly but it was absolutely clear that i hadn't
00:37:24.200
done any such thing but they did want me to spend a year in prison uh for a non-fulfillment of um
00:37:30.480
of of a lease in in a public service which is winning the monastery which is a big crime in italy um
00:37:36.720
so up until that moment i was potentially looking at uh at uh one year in prison and which is more i
00:37:44.580
think than what's on the table for either you or or dr navarro significantly um so that was that was
00:37:52.280
the reality i was quite confident steve for myself um because my my impersonal conduct um in going to
00:38:01.120
obtain the lease in the tender process and also in looking after the the monastery self it was it was
00:38:06.780
immaculate it wasn't just exemplary it was immaculate and there was literally nothing that
00:38:12.940
they could get their little fingers in um in order to to suggest i had done anything wrong it was
00:38:20.020
absolutely immaculate but if it hadn't been for you steve and hadn't been for this show i would be
00:38:24.300
in prison i mean i i mean i was one of the most popular guys i knew in conservative circles when you
00:38:29.780
were sort of riding high at the height of your powers everyone was phoning me they wanted to be my
00:38:35.100
friends just because i was associated with you um in the press this is pre-war room um the day i was
00:38:42.980
charged i i literally became from the guy everyone wanted at the reception of parties i had nobody around
00:38:49.100
to me i was absolutely abandoned absolutely um you never did steve um and uh you gave me the support
00:38:55.980
i needed and that was the reason both because my personal conduct was immaculate and you had
00:39:00.820
constantly stood by me and i had no idea what you were thinking as you were seeing all these
00:39:05.540
newspaper articles coming out from from italy which were horrific i have to say um that's for my own
00:39:13.060
case that's why i'm still on my on my on my legs i had no intention of signing any kind of uh
00:39:19.040
plea deal um because it wouldn't have been representing the the truth you know i'm happy
00:39:25.060
steve because of this um because i now have some battle scars of my own having gone up against the
00:39:30.020
system um as friedrich nietzsche said that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger it was either
00:39:35.500
nietzsche nietzsche or conan the barbarian i will let the war and posse decide which um for four tough
00:39:43.400
years fine you know go to university in four years get a degree i've um i've got the battle scars of having
00:39:48.980
taken on the corrupt system and three court cases um and i am literally stronger for it
00:39:55.000
i'm literally stronger for it i can um i can now preach the gospel of resistance um having been
00:40:02.360
through it myself um and and and hold it in the gospel and the in the in the gospel of resilience
00:40:10.380
the costco's who resilient tell people i want to make sure when we talk about the deep state in the
00:40:15.480
administrative state and particularly it's quite advanced in europe and and the united states took
00:40:21.320
the model from mi5 mi mi6 and how the british role uh people should know we've emulated much
00:40:28.680
our founders looked to the roman republic the current uh particularly from uh around world war
00:40:35.420
world war ii we really looked to the british empire for a lot of the uh how to run things how to deal
00:40:42.260
with things how how all-encompassing when in a country like italy which we think is you know one
00:40:50.760
of the more advanced countries in the west when when the apparatus comes after you how all-encompassing
00:40:56.400
is it you know steve the thing i mean we've seen the glimmers of this in the american context
00:41:03.100
right and president trump has had a few uh judicial cases where there haven't been juries i'm astonished
00:41:10.020
at that um i mean in the anglo-american tradition i'm absolutely astonished that you can have court
00:41:16.660
cases without sitting juries i thought we'd sort of wrap that kind of thing up at magna carta um
00:41:22.580
sort of what how many years ago 800 years ago um in italy it's common it is by far 99 of court cases
00:41:31.040
have no juries um i've been through three three major uh trials now i've never seen a jury there's never
00:41:37.780
been a jury in any of my uh court cases um and when i mean i think you probably get a jury for like
00:41:44.160
the major murder trials um but that's it criminal cases civil cases financial cases they don't have
00:41:52.040
juries um and that basically means that the judiciary is a lot more pliable um for the towards the
00:41:59.300
political pressure um because it's part of the mentality part of the planning that government knows
00:42:05.520
that it can put it you know it has a good chance of putting its thumb on the scale because it doesn't
00:42:09.940
even have to take into consideration you don't have like anyone who's seen like l.a law what the
00:42:14.680
or or the the the the lawyer shows on on us tv you know you always have the state prosecutor sort of
00:42:21.900
saying you know what he thinks he's going to be able to get a jury to accept that isn't part of the
00:42:27.220
calculation here in italy steve there's there's no um it's just like let's we go after them
00:42:32.520
because there's you know there's going to be no joy that's not even part of the conservation it's
00:42:37.520
you know how much can we put out them on on the scale here how much can we get a pre-ordained
00:42:42.840
uh verdict and the culture and the country that you know they pay the consequences of centuries of
00:42:50.820
this whereas in in in the anglo-american tradition there is at least the defense um against injustice
00:42:58.400
of having was it a lay 11 joy men your your peers 11 men and true right what have you um so that is
00:43:07.640
part of the consideration of government does it it's not here um that is something i i will never
00:43:13.900
ever uh i'm so energized on this point joy is in order for due process and equality before the law
00:43:22.220
um and the presumption of innocence right you absolutely need to factor in into your mental
00:43:28.820
calculations the presence of a jury those things are so essential um of course now you might say
00:43:34.720
that in new york what hope might donald trump have in new york um with the jury that's a fair enough
00:43:40.340
consideration um but it is it is the the you know and there are there is a movement in both the uk and
00:43:48.420
and the united states to sort of to wean away joy because you know for the complicated cases
00:43:54.720
because you know is it people really understand what's going on absolutely not absolutely never
00:43:59.700
they're too important um it's the it's the ultimate safeguard that we have against the tyranny of
00:44:05.840
the state um and you see the difference that's why you have italy and america yeah that you see this
00:44:13.940
week we uh we commemorate uh the jury a trial that didn't have a jury also uh of jesus christ uh drudge
00:44:22.680
had the mac daddy the other day that had uh the current pope quote unquote um under a ton of pressure
00:44:30.640
yeah if they could if uh denver denver could put it up the mac daddy was that uh he was under incredible
00:44:36.560
pressure and that things are going the wrong way what what what do you take this why is this why is
00:44:42.000
surfacing now um it was funny that that was from yesterday that was from palm sunday itself um uh and
00:44:51.000
i think you know on your getter feed you had the the right approach to the right analysis that is that
00:44:56.820
is a rebellion now and resistance is starting to arise against the the fake pontificate of of pope
00:45:05.680
francis i think more and more people are realizing that there is something catastrophically
00:45:11.100
illegitimate in his misrule over the catholic church and they're finding their courage uh to resist that
00:45:21.440
is that much more advanced in the united states this resistance that comes from the priests that
00:45:30.360
won't comply that they're getting rid of some of the best young priests out there of course bishop
00:45:35.040
strickland down in in texas uh is that much more advanced in the united states as a resistance or the
00:45:41.420
beginning of a schism or rebellion uh where where do we stand in europe um yeah it is and it comes back
00:45:49.340
to the point i was making before americans don't have the feudal mentality the feudal temperament of being
00:45:57.320
serfs um lorded over by barons or bishops um who rule in the name of god americans don't have that
00:46:08.660
um and i think they're stronger for it you know it had its it had its purpose it had its um had it has
00:46:15.680
its benefits you know if you're if you're a medieval society and you basically have no presence of the
00:46:22.640
state anywhere other than that and you're just basically filthy unwashed then some kind of degree
00:46:28.020
of order on a top-down basis is useful it holds things together it allows people to have basic
00:46:33.780
property rights and what have you but it is a limiting consideration you see the fact that that
00:46:39.260
that the whole of europe now is atrophied and sclerotic um and one of the reasons is that we've never
00:46:45.560
ditched that that attitude whereas americans ditched it they threw that yoke off 250 years
00:46:52.620
ago um and it doesn't fit well americans like to do things for themselves they don't like being told
00:46:58.460
what to do if it's by a bishop or a priest or a king and the concept is alien to americans um and i wish
00:47:06.300
it were so that i you know i think here in continental europe we would have a lot to learn
00:47:10.120
you know from from these events of 250 years ago because we never you know we never really had
00:47:15.940
the concepts like uh like the boston tea party for example you know the best revolutions that we've had
00:47:22.380
here in continental europe i should get rid of one pack of uh criminals and just replace them with
00:47:28.400
another pack of criminal criminals and then just carry on as if nothing changed that wasn't the
00:47:32.520
american experience of revolution wasn't the purpose of of the american revolution um and we lack that here
00:47:39.740
ben uh words of wisdom as always from uh from a true warrior uh how do people get to your social
00:47:48.540
me we've got a lot more to discuss this holy week look forward to having you back on the morning in
00:47:52.560
the uh in the afternoon show uh where do people go to get all your you get better engagement i'm you
00:47:57.980
know people should know i'm incredibly jealous ben's engagement on getter is insane um it's because
00:48:04.100
these really great uh pieces you write uh before you get down to to hook up with the uh with the
00:48:10.680
articles that you're going to put forward so it's quite brilliant uh where do people go to get it
00:48:14.560
well that's very kind of you steve um getter it's my social media platform of choice i only really
00:48:19.800
post on getter find it download the app or download it on on your on your browser getter.com just tap
00:48:26.660
in my surname at harnwell and my uh my great posts are all there um i've got some fantastic ones at the
00:48:34.280
top of the feed right now thanks steve they're they're incredible ben thanks thanks for staying up late
00:48:40.460
with us thank you god bless lou dobbs lou dobbs is going to follow us here uh we're kicking off holy
00:48:47.260
we're going to have a bunch of specials and do a lot of different stuff when we get to what holy
00:48:52.060
thursday and good friday and holy saturday and of course he's for sunday so we've got a lot a lot
00:48:56.620
planned uh for everyone uh we're going to be broadcasting through the entire uh holiday uh or
00:49:03.080
this commemoration weekend of course holy thursday and then you have uh the solemnity of uh good friday
00:49:10.460
we always do our special on holy saturday descent into hell uh about jesus christ descending into
00:49:16.440
hell so we'll do that i hopefully i'm going to work out to get poso back on for that and maybe some
00:49:21.040
other uh some other folks uh and then we'll do some uh classic replays uh on uh on holy saturday or
00:49:27.900
on uh easter sunday so a lot going on this week lou dobbs is next we'll be back at 10 o'clock tomorrow
00:49:33.060
morning when i played uh shun yen to open up this uh segment talk about classical culture remember
00:49:38.860
this fight here is by the neo-marxists and they very much have taken the cultural revolution in
00:49:45.440
china as a uh as really a touchstone for what they're trying to do here and that's why i'd love
00:49:50.820
for you to go see sun yen over at sunyen.com but also to remember the chinese communist party they're
00:49:56.160
absolutely totally lethal one thing they've done and they're brilliant they're strategically quite
00:50:00.400
brilliant one of the things they've done is they've controlled the supply chains you're gonna hear
00:50:04.240
biden talk a lot about supply chains here over the next uh couple of weeks and all this thing
00:50:09.460
they're going to do to move supply chains for industrial manufacturing one thing the chinese
00:50:13.440
communist party has and this is brought up by rosemary gibson is that they have controlled 100
00:50:19.920
of the manufacturing supply chains for active pharmaceutical ingredients api and that goes
00:50:26.240
into all the generic drugs so in 80 of the generic drugs are controlled by the chinese communist party
00:50:31.500
uh the 20 that's not as made in any other places they still control the api this is how they can
00:50:37.460
choke down at any time and this is not even dealing with the cyber what's going on with the shutting
00:50:42.100
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caught okay i want to thank ben harnwell uh lou dobbs is next i want to make sure everybody reads
00:51:33.720
this article uh if grace and mo can share it from axios today talks about the rise of alternative media
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particularly talks about charlie kirk and jack basobik laura loomer uh alex birchowitz um hopefully he'll
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run for congress here shortly talks about the war room being the juggernaut don jr tucker uh what we've
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the most powerful political movement in the world and i think actually the most powerful political
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