Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 545： Corruption In Ireland; War With China

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.440 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:18.440 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just

00:00:24.360 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:29.100 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:33.380 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:40.420 your host Stephen K Bannon it's Friday 31 May in the year of our Lord 2024 thank you for uh sticking

00:00:48.640 with us and hanging out with us for the second hour of the late afternoon early evening edition of war

00:00:54.520 room uh today we're going to focus on the early years of the third world war something we've been

00:01:00.660 focused on for the last couple of years uh with the help of Karen Sigmund and of course Frank Gaffney

00:01:05.940 and the team over the committee on the present danger of China I'm gonna go to Rome Ben Harnwell

00:01:10.760 is going to join us still a very big controversy about the use of offensive weapons offensive

00:01:16.480 American military missiles made missiles maybe even with technicians in Ukraine to fire into Russia

00:01:22.880 also Captain James Fennell and Dr. Bradley Thayer join us on a really quite frankly a magnificent piece

00:01:30.360 in the Washington Times that laid out the reality check on the war that's coming over Taiwan

00:01:36.460 we're gonna get to all that in the middle of all this we're gonna have a couple of three elections

00:01:41.960 we're gonna have a in eight days time a year in prayer on parliamentary election that will set the

00:01:47.060 course in Brussels we're gonna have the UK is gonna have a general election on July 4th

00:01:51.880 and then the United States obviously on 5 November we're gonna have election of course Modi and

00:01:56.360 in India's have an election they're gonna have results of here shortly um so in the middle of

00:02:02.220 this war elections I want to go to Michael Leahy uh the head of the Irish Freedom Party who's running

00:02:08.580 for a seat in the European parliamentary election before we had the technical problem this morning

00:02:13.000 Michael you were saying the the Irish are to have patience they're slow to get angry or slow to to 1.00

00:02:20.120 take action but you think you've hit the trip bar just explain that to me is mass migration what what

00:02:25.500 has happened different now than over the last decade that have the Irish now awakening from their 1.00

00:02:33.160 sleep about what's happening to the sovereignty of their nation I think there's a number of things

00:02:38.700 Stephen but certainly mass migration does appear to be the trigger I think if you go to any small

00:02:44.220 even rural Irish towns now in Ireland you will you will struggle that at times you will struggle to find

00:02:49.500 a white face uh you will see people coming from various different countries uh you will see a lot of old

00:02:55.340 buildings being occupied by often military-aged men who are being brought into the country unvetted uh with 0.99

00:03:02.220 no security clearance of any kind it seems to be it it's a it's a pattern of migration that makes no

00:03:08.380 sense whatsoever it is very obvious it is very in your face the government have been questioned about

00:03:13.900 it for the last two to three years and they're obfuscating continually and the people are suddenly

00:03:19.500 waking up to the fact that their culture their country is being very dramatically changed and in

00:03:25.020 many ways not for the best uh immigration can be of course be a positive thing when people come in

00:03:30.220 and bring the skills the necessary skills that may be needed in the country but the situation in

00:03:34.620 Ireland is that we're exporting large numbers of our people as we always have done and frequently 1.00

00:03:40.140 they find it quite difficult when they want to come back and we don't make it easy for them to come

00:03:44.140 back but the government for some reason uh and these are the reasons this really makes no sense they

00:03:50.140 are facilitating the importation of very very large numbers of people for radically different cultures uh

00:03:55.580 very often north african middle eastern cultures a very substantial number of islam islamic immigrants

00:04:02.140 are coming into the country and they are being settled in the country and they're being given 1.00

00:04:05.820 priority by the government it's and it's this is costing a huge amount of money but apart from that

00:04:11.180 it is putting our services under pressure uh it is very difficult for Irish people to get medical

00:04:15.900 assessments now to get dental appointments schools are being overcrowded and it has all happened really in the

00:04:22.140 space of the past five to ten years but accelerated dramatically since the outbreak of the european

00:04:28.380 war and ukrainian war uh ireland undertook to take people in without limit uh we have taken more people

00:04:34.620 in as a result of ukrainian war than any other country in europe with the exception of poland and

00:04:39.340 polish people people have landed in poland many of them end up in ireland and um many of these people

00:04:45.260 who came to be thinking ukraine have never been to ukraine in their lives but we don't have a proper

00:04:49.740 vetting procedure we don't have any control over our borders this only makes sense in terms of a

00:04:54.860 government and a european system that which wishes to replace the individual culture of the nation

00:05:00.540 states and which essentially wishes to destroy the concept of a national state with its own

00:05:05.100 identifiable culture and people in ireland have always been very proud of their culture they've

00:05:10.060 also always been very welcoming of outsiders and that's that's a very good characteristic but the

00:05:15.340 the extent the numbers now in ireland are such that people are becoming hugely alarmed with what's

00:05:20.940 happening and very many of the people who come into the country simply don't want to integrate and

00:05:26.300 they have a deep disrespect for western culture and for western values the numbers that are coming 0.98

00:05:31.180 in make it impossible to embark on a problem of integration none of this makes any sense at any

00:05:37.100 level other than a deliberate effort to destroy and destabilize the country and it appears to me now

00:05:43.100 that irish people are getting absolutely fed up with this there is a seething anger out there as i

00:05:48.300 mentioned to you earlier um we had referenda recently to uh to some two months ago where the government

00:05:54.220 got a huge surprise it was expecting to pass these referenda which are about redefining what a woman was

00:05:59.420 redefining what the family meant and they got a huge overwhelmingly negative vote they're deeply taken

00:06:06.300 aback by that i suspect in these european elections they're going to get a very similar result and i think

00:06:11.100 the mainstream parties may be in very very serious trouble now the european elections they are an

00:06:16.380 opportunity for people to give a protest vote because european parliamentarians they have limited

00:06:21.500 powers the european parliament is one of the only parliaments in the world where the parliamentarians

00:06:26.300 can't actually propose legislation quite extraordinary system uh the european union can speak for

00:06:32.300 democratic values but its parliament is it's fairly toothless now the parliament can cause

00:06:36.860 difficulties to the european commission which is the body which is non-elected which holds the great

00:06:42.380 bulk of the power but the parliament can cause difficulties for it and can cause obstructions to

00:06:46.380 it and that's what i'm hoping to do by being elected to the european parliament is to give a

00:06:50.460 voice to our end to ally with many other european eurosceptic parties and i think it's important to

00:06:56.140 point out that there will be a sea change in europe this time this is happening not just ireland this

00:07:00.300 is happening throughout europe the eurosceptic parties you see them in france you see them in

00:07:04.780 germany alternative for deutschland they see them in italy and in spain and of course in eastern europe

00:07:10.940 the countries of eastern europe have never been very happy with the european union because they see

00:07:14.940 it as replicating new soviet union which it does in many ways and of course they have a very recent

00:07:19.180 memory of that and they're becoming very restive so um now on top of that steve we also have what i

00:07:25.740 would see as the debasement of the european currency uh and when that happens you you tend to have a

00:07:31.100 situation where governments seem to seem to print money and throw money at any problem and the sums of

00:07:35.660 money that are being thrown at organizations to facilitate immigration into this country is is

00:07:40.620 absolutely eye-watering we can't get hospitals or schools built there's nobody to be whatsoever building

00:07:46.620 accommodation centers for migrants and this really is maddening people and i see i've seen a change 1.00

00:07:51.580 even over i've been canvassing now for some six months looking for votes and i see a dramatic

00:07:56.940 change in the temperament of the people over the last six to eight weeks i i think it really is that

00:08:02.460 it is quite angry so so watch this space is all i can see i i think our patience as i said to you the

00:08:07.740 irish man can be a very patient person but the time comes when he kicks the chair from under you and 1.00

00:08:12.460 he pins you against the wall and then you're looking at a very different they're a very different type

00:08:15.980 of person and never feeling that's what's going to happen pretty soon mike i want to have you back

00:08:22.140 on and talk about irish nationalism because uh you know i i'm from irish descent and i was raised on this

00:08:27.900 great fierce uh uh motive force of irish nationalism that were actually fought and was able to from the

00:08:35.820 british empire get the freedom of the irish republic but i'll have you back on then i want to spend more

00:08:40.780 time on i because we're dealing with the third world war the question you talk about military age men

00:08:45.980 uh right now zelinski can't raise he needs 500 000 combat troops of the age 25 27 thereabouts

00:08:53.340 because the average age of an individual fighting in the trenches against the russians is 42 years old

00:08:59.740 ireland is supposedly said after poland the second biggest uh area where people went are there a lot

00:09:07.500 of fighting age males of ukrainian descent in ireland or any of them answering the call to return to their

00:09:13.260 home country to fight for ukraine there are and they're not there are there are a lot of military

00:09:20.380 age men there's a you see people coming to ireland they're claiming to be from ukraine and we really

00:09:25.660 don't know where they're from they end up here without documentation and they claim they have to

00:09:30.060 flee without the documentation now you can believe that if you want but when you go to any irish airport

00:09:36.140 or any irish city or any irish international protection regime center you will know what

00:09:41.420 you can recognize a military person when you see one it's not just that they're military a they seem

00:09:45.740 to have a military bearing and i think you could recognize that you're a former military man yourself

00:09:50.380 steve you you can recognize a fellow soldier when you see him it's almost like his haircut and he stands

00:09:55.420 in the jib of him is a certain way and you can recognize them and you and you there are a number of

00:10:00.220 military type people in ireland now one of the suggestions that i have heard before the same

00:10:04.780 thing is happening in the uk is that the british army is going to be sent out to ukraine to the

00:10:08.700 meat grinder and that these people are going to be uh recruited and given uniforms and told to keep 0.54

00:10:14.780 the native population down i have no idea whether that's the case you know this is one of the this

00:10:19.420 is one of the types of rumors that is now swirling around in countries like united kingdom and ireland

00:10:24.220 and it's what people are getting very anxious they really are um our governments are hiding

00:10:30.540 something from us is it a currency collapse is it are they aware that this war is going to be

00:10:35.660 escalated and not telling us about it um the number of young men who are in this country who can be

00:10:41.100 recruited into the police or the army seems to be they did a lot of them do seem to be that type who

00:10:47.180 have a military training uh and that's that is beginning to worry people very greatly i can't say for

00:10:52.620 certain that that is the case obviously this would be hidden right it's certainly a worry to a large

00:10:58.940 number of people michael leahy where do people go to follow you on social media and where to for

00:11:05.900 the irish freedom party ireland's freedom party where do they go they can follow me at uh leahy eu

00:11:14.060 election 2024.com my twitter handle and i've done some very interesting videos recently see i was on the

00:11:21.100 lakes of killarney welcoming uh tedris not welcoming but telling tedris grubelius that he wasn't

00:11:26.700 welcome in ireland uh and i was also seeing a frank sanatra so that might give entertainment value

00:11:33.340 anyway my twitter is at leahy with a capital l m a leahy with a capital m m a l e a h y m l so that's my

00:11:42.380 twitter and uh if you if you google the eu election 2024 you'll see some very interesting

00:11:48.860 and sometimes entertaining stuff there we try to have a sense of humor about this even though

00:11:53.020 these are dark times there are times when you also need to keep a sense of perspective and

00:11:56.780 a sense of humor so watch my frank sanatra video you'll really enjoy it

00:12:00.460 thank you sir honor to have you on here look forward to having you back and let me talk again

00:12:07.820 thanks very much before i go thank you brother captain finnell i i've got you and thayer on here

00:12:13.740 about this magnificent piece you wrote about taiwan but i got to ask you because you

00:12:19.180 know europe as well as anybody this is the way that rumors get started this way that people

00:12:24.460 start to fear there's something and i talked to a lot of people in europe in doing this show we have

00:12:29.420 a lot of sources and there's an ease in europe leading up to this european parliamentary election

00:12:34.300 not just the rise of the right the sovereignty parties but you just heard from leahy they don't

00:12:38.700 understand why there's so many ukrainian it looks like fighting age men are in these other 0.87

00:12:44.460 countries and not going home and then you start to hear the rumors well hey maybe you know because

00:12:49.580 richie sunak saying that uh i want to install a draft maybe the british army's going forward or

00:12:54.460 you hear tony blinken talking about using american missiles to fire into russia this is the

00:12:59.100 way that and these governments are so opaque and lie so much about what's actually going on in ukraine

00:13:05.820 your thoughts on this yeah steve i'm those rumors are abound here in europe there's a great concern

00:13:14.140 that uh you know from the governments in europe that uh that putin wants to invade all of europe and so

00:13:21.260 we you know they're talking about this as something to drive uh conscription as you said in the uk

00:13:29.180 there's concern uh about um you know we saw in the new york times i think a week and a half ago talk of

00:13:36.460 this administration u.s administration's planning to put american soldiers into ukraine even um and so

00:13:43.100 there is there is concern about that we're going to slow walk ourselves into a in a war into europe

00:13:48.700 i was in warsaw last month and uh taking a cab to the airport and i talking to the cabbie was polish

00:13:56.300 and i asked him about you know hey how's it feel to be on the you know up along the front lines there

00:14:01.580 with belarus and in russia and then he mentioned that well you know there's all these fighting age uh

00:14:08.220 ukrainian men that are in poland and i said well i thought there were mostly women and children he

00:14:12.460 said yeah there's probably two or three million women and children but there's a million or more 1.00

00:14:17.260 fighting age men from ukraine that are in poland and they all escape by paying you know paying their

00:14:22.780 way to get out of the ukraine so there's some there's some concern here uh dr thayer i know you look

00:14:30.780 at uh at uh ireland in the uk you've had big concerns about this your thoughts

00:14:35.500 well i think that's absolutely what uh jim said uh in terms of and what you said steve in terms of

00:14:43.820 the growing concern over it i would add that that's happening here in the united states too

00:14:49.900 uh with uh so many tens of thousands of military age chinese men uh who are coming in some of whom

00:14:59.660 certainly our mss agent or pla people's liberation army uh they're here to do us harm uh and to serve 0.65

00:15:08.140 as muscle uh for xi jinping uh in the lead up to conflict or in the case of actual conflict they're

00:15:16.620 here able to conduct covert action so it's a problem not only for europe it's a problem right here with

00:15:23.420 open borders open northern and southern borders and folks flying in coming into the united states

00:15:29.340 completely unvetted it's a terrorist threat but it's also used as a weapon by the people's republic

00:15:35.580 of china and we have to worry about that as we things heat up considerably over taiwan uh that

00:15:43.340 these agents may come into play immediately uh to conduct attacks okay assassinations voter fraud

00:15:51.900 and let me and we we're gonna have yeah we're gonna have ben on here in a minute about the

00:15:56.700 situation the blinking and the missiles but i want to go back to your piece then right now let's

00:16:01.180 start with captain finnell uh this piece uh i think shocked a lot of people because you went through

00:16:06.940 it so methodically so talk to us about the coming war over taiwan because it's it's it's and i think

00:16:14.060 the worm does the best job for the trump base and for the for the right um and on ukraine we have

00:16:21.420 people fully awake on this and fully understanding what's going on taiwan's a different situation

00:16:27.020 although we have a vast international audience of laoba jing there's something because the mainstream

00:16:32.780 media refuses to spend any real time on actually reporting what's going on between how focused the

00:16:41.180 ccp is on taking this back so captain finnell once you start at the top walk us through the article and

00:16:46.460 then i'll get to make sure dr thayer gets in here right well thanks for having us on steve this is

00:16:53.340 obviously something that's been the focus of my life the last 15 years every day uh watching this

00:17:00.300 uh 10 years retired i guess 20 25 years now i forgot i've been retired almost 10 years so the point is

00:17:07.900 what we're seeing and what we saw play out this last week with this last thursday and friday with exercise

00:17:13.740 joint sword 2024 alpha is really something important and that's why we methodically went

00:17:19.260 through and basically laid out 10 points of why this is important and obviously the first one is is

00:17:25.500 that it's a rehearsal for war that the perc chi chi ping and the communist party uh implemented and have 0.82

00:17:33.660 executed now twice they did a joint sword last year in 2023 and actually in august of 2022 they did a

00:17:41.180 similar uh large-scale exercise against taiwan they didn't call it joint sword but so this is really

00:17:46.460 the third iteration uh and we lay out in detail the elements of it but principally the number one is

00:17:53.180 it's a rehearsal for war for the prc to take taiwan so i think that's the most important thing for people

00:17:59.020 to understand is that china is preparing themselves to take war and if you don't believe you know if you

00:18:04.620 say well you're hyping the threat well yesterday the indopacom commander the new commander admiral

00:18:10.380 papro speaking with asia nikay and he said this was a rehearsal for war for the prc and he said he's

00:18:17.660 very concerned because the prc it's it's how they assess it's how xi and the communist party assess

00:18:24.060 what's going on with america and our defenses what's going on in taiwan and the prc and the pla's military

00:18:30.540 capabilities and papro said you know the prc is building their military capability at an alarming

00:18:36.940 rate so this is a great concern uh that they're doing this a couple other things that are important

00:18:42.460 is this exercise is just two days in 2022 it was four days some people say in 2023 it was three days

00:18:49.980 i believe it was four so this was only two days this time which for me was an indicator that they

00:18:55.660 were trying to compress their command and control uh by doing this you know that as i mentioned

00:19:01.660 before there's three elements to the prc's invasion strategy the joint fire strike campaign which is

00:19:07.660 where they launch ballistic missiles at taiwan then there's the joint anti-air raid campaign which

00:19:12.860 is establishes air supremacy over taiwan and the waters east of taiwan and that whole first and second

00:19:19.100 island chain and then the third part is the joint island landing campaign so three campaigns

00:19:24.780 to execute a taiwan invasion and what we saw in these other exercises and in this one was a simulation

00:19:32.700 this time not actual missile firings but the simulation of that with the strategic rocket force

00:19:38.620 and the cup and the combined with the pla navy the pla air force and the pla army all contributing

00:19:45.260 fires against critical targets uh in taiwan and they talked a lot about their target list for the first

00:19:51.900 time we're going at they said we're going to go after political targets in the north in taipei we're

00:19:57.020 going to go after military targets in the north and in the south and in the east and we're going to

00:20:02.140 attack from around all aspects of taiwan we're going to attack from the mainland we're going to attack 1.00

00:20:07.420 from the north we're going to attack from the south presumably from these uh three major bases that 0.72

00:20:12.940 they have in the spratleys and then they'll also plan to attack from the east from aircraft carriers and

00:20:18.220 and other vessels that will be operating east of Taiwan.

00:20:21.580 So this whole idea of their target list being discussed, very important and one of the things that we need to consider.

00:20:28.340 And this compression of just into two days gets back to a speech I gave in San Diego at the U.S. Naval Institute press conference,

00:20:38.440 and I talked about a short, sharp war.

00:20:41.400 We had gleaned this from Chinese writings, that they want to have a short, sharp war. 0.60

00:20:46.160 And now, here we are a decade later, and we see them doing kind of focusing in on that,

00:20:52.120 because now they even know more so than they did 10 years ago by watching what's happening in the Ukraine,

00:20:58.140 that they do not want to be involved in a long, drawn-out war.

00:21:01.420 So they want to use shock and awe and have a short, sharp war to be able to decapitate the leadership of Taiwan and the military

00:21:09.640 and isolate them and then be able to get boots on the ground and to be able to physically take over the country.

00:21:16.160 A couple other points that we talk about is the closure areas that were used this time that were announced by the Chinese with no notice.

00:21:24.160 They announced closure areas, and the exercise went off.

00:21:27.500 In 22, they gave a 24-hour, 48-hour advance notice.

00:21:31.300 This time, they did not.

00:21:32.580 And those closure areas that were announced were closer to China or Taiwan than they were in previous exercises,

00:21:38.960 which is to say the Chinese are getting closer and closer and closer, and they're testing, and they're seeing the response from Taiwan.

00:21:46.720 What will happen if we get this close?

00:21:48.800 What will they do?

00:21:49.540 How will they respond?

00:21:50.480 What's their indications and warning?

00:21:52.180 What's their intelligence and surveillance capabilities against our probes?

00:21:56.320 And then they also, during the exercise, while they didn't fire missiles, there were dozens of aircraft, dozens of ships that were surrounding Taiwan in real time

00:22:05.980 and crossing the center line of the Taiwan Strait, probing and testing Taiwan's defenses

00:22:12.580 and actually looking at our defenses from our forces that are in the Far East.

00:22:16.820 It's a joint operation, as I mentioned, and in the articles that the Chinese talk about, they talk about mock fire strike. 0.52

00:22:24.820 So for the first time that I've seen in a long time, they're actually mentioning fire strike, which is part of their doctrine of this first campaign,

00:22:33.500 joint fire strike, which is to rain down thousands of missiles on key political and military targets in Taiwan

00:22:42.020 to isolate military capability and isolate leadership or decapitate leadership through physical kinetic attack.

00:22:51.380 This is obviously, this exercise is a signal to the new leader of Taiwan, President Lai.

00:22:58.800 He took, he was inaugurated on the 20th of May.

00:23:02.320 This exercise went on the 26th and the 27th.

00:23:05.260 And it's a signal to Lai, the new president of Taiwan, that guess what?

00:23:10.880 Every minute of your time in office, you are going to be under the threat of an invasion.

00:23:16.760 Every minute, you will get no relief from us.

00:23:20.440 And that's what's happening even today.

00:23:22.460 Chinese warships and aircraft are surrounding Taiwan.

00:23:26.180 And so if you're that leader, that's a lot of pressure.

00:23:28.860 And China's applying that to them. 1.00

00:23:30.540 It's also a signal to Admiral Papro, the new commander of Indo-Pacific Command in Hawaii.

00:23:38.820 He's a strong advocate for defending Taiwan.

00:23:42.060 He came up from Pacific Fleet down at Makalapa, went up the hill.

00:23:46.180 And this is a message to him that, hey, guess what?

00:23:49.340 You may talk about America's integrated defense and distributed maritime operations.

00:23:53.800 And there's a new article today in Defense News about Assistant Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks,

00:23:59.860 and her new strategic integration group, Taiwan, SIG-T,

00:24:05.180 and that that's going to bring together the whole of government to focus on Taiwan, defending Taiwan.

00:24:11.540 But the reality is that's not going to be driven just from an Assistant Secretary of Defense.

00:24:16.340 If it's not coming from the top and coming from the White House,

00:24:19.640 and I think we'll talk about this later with Brad, this is the real issues.

00:24:23.440 We need top-down leadership from a strong leader that's going to send the right signal.

00:24:28.880 A couple other things.

00:24:30.600 We talked about the completeness of their targeting list and the intention to spread fear.

00:24:36.680 Again, China would like to do all this without never having to fire a shot. 0.86

00:24:41.220 Maybe they think that they can do enough of these exercises.

00:24:44.380 At some point, maybe the DPP and the Taiwan people will cave.

00:24:48.380 I don't think they will, but I think they may be trying to play for that.

00:24:51.200 And that's why they're talking about some of this as well.

00:24:54.280 And then the last piece, weather and timing.

00:24:57.640 A lot of people in the community that watch this, they like to talk about,

00:25:01.980 well, there's only these really two windows of invasion.

00:25:04.840 It's in April and it's in October.

00:25:07.240 It's just windows are when the sea states are the calmest and the weather patterns are the least

00:25:11.700 impacted by the typhoons and whatnot.

00:25:13.960 I think this exercise that was happening in late May, we had the others last year.

00:25:19.120 It happened in April.

00:25:20.360 One's happened in August.

00:25:21.680 We see carrier operations in November and December.

00:25:24.880 I want to just make sure that we warn people a strike could come at any time and we should not

00:25:31.040 be thinking it's only going to come in certain windows.

00:25:33.880 And I'm convinced that the military folks in Hawaii and our military understand that.

00:25:39.640 But a lot of the pundits talk about, well, we only have to worry about two windows.

00:25:43.240 And that's not right.

00:25:44.540 And the last piece is there were some small islands that were involved in this exercise

00:25:48.900 that are off the coast of China.

00:25:50.660 Kimmin, Matsu, Uchi, and Dongyin.

00:25:53.520 China sent Coast Guard vessels around Uchi and Dongyin and got within two to three nautical miles

00:26:02.180 of these islands.

00:26:03.400 So Coast Guard vessels being used was a new element to this exercise.

00:26:08.020 I don't like to overplay it.

00:26:09.600 It's Coast Guard.

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00:26:12.380 But let's not miss the main point.

00:26:15.740 When Xi and the Communist Party and the Central Military Commission decide to go, they are going

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00:26:24.560 And when they use military force, they're going to take out and decapitate Taiwan leadership, 0.85

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00:26:34.580 And don't forget, the guy running the PLA's history of defense has been focused on this

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00:33:08.160 And Captain Fennell, talking about honored dead, what you just laid out with Firestrike and with this, you know, the scale of it seems like it's orders of magnitude even bigger.

00:33:19.040 The concept's the same, but even bigger than you had worked on, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago.

00:33:26.220 Can the Seventh Fleet, can the Pacific Fleet stop this, defend Taiwan, keep it free?

00:33:31.720 And at what cost, sir, are we going to have a carrier battle group with 10,000 American sailors at the bottom of the Straits of Taiwan?

00:33:41.000 Well, Steve, with all due respect to Admiral Papro, who said yesterday that he, if this were to occur, that the U.S. would prevail.

00:33:49.080 I have great concern about that.

00:33:51.140 The numbers, just the sheer numbers of ballistic missiles, anti-ship cruise missiles, ships, aircraft, submarines, it overwhelms us right now in the Western Pacific.

00:34:04.120 And for us to get there from the West Coast would take us three to four weeks, two to three weeks at the best.

00:34:10.860 And our ships, especially our carriers, are in range of these specifically created anti-ship carrier missiles.

00:34:17.860 And so it's very likely that if we are operating within the first and second island chain from basically Guam towards the mainland of China through the Ryukyu Island chain, that we would be at great risk.

00:34:31.240 And there's a great increased potential for one of our carriers to be sunk.

00:34:35.880 And then we just had a study put out or a great assessment put out by Dr. Jerry Hendricks last week about the state of our submarine force, which was kind of our ace in the hole.

00:34:45.200 We thought that we would have the superiority of our nuclear submarine force that would be able to launch, you know, land attack missiles against Chinese ships, against the Chinese mainland, and that would swing the tide and help defeat the invasion.

00:34:59.700 And now we're finding out that maybe up to a third of our submarines are laying aside, waiting to get into dry docks that don't exist.

00:35:06.740 So we're in rough waters.

00:35:09.280 We're in rocky shoals, as they say.

00:35:11.360 We don't have the size of the Navy that we need.

00:35:13.440 We don't have the size of the air force that we need.

00:35:16.060 We don't have the capability to recover from combat-inflicted losses, repairs to ships, repairs to people, things of that nature.

00:35:24.240 And so this is not something that we should take lightly.

00:35:26.960 And again, I want to footstomp.

00:35:28.720 If China does this and they do launch an invasion, they're going to bet the farm on it. 0.97

00:35:33.120 This is the regime survival-level stuff.

00:35:36.200 And they will take out and attack Americans that are involved or in any way in the region.

00:35:41.420 And we have 100,000 people in the Western Pacific, whether on Korea and Japan or sailing around.

00:35:47.840 And it's very, very dangerous.

00:35:49.600 And we should not take this lightly, which is why in our piece we call for the president to be calling for a national mobilization of our military-industrial base to focus on the Pacific.

00:36:00.680 We spent the last 40 years fighting in the desert in CENTCOM, and it's like China wants to keep us fighting there with what's going on in the Middle East right now, in Israel and Gaza and with Iran, this war in Ukraine.

00:36:13.200 And we have not retooled our Department of Defense for 35 years to do what we did in the Cold War, which is to be able to deter an adversary with a strong Navy.

00:36:23.880 And we don't have that today.

00:36:27.740 Dr. Thayer, this is almost like the 1930s and the run-up to World War II.

00:36:32.540 You go back and look at the newspapers, all the focus was on the war in Europe, virtually nobody paying attention to what the Asian co-prosperity sphere or what was happening in Manchuria, what was happening in mainland.

00:36:46.860 I mean it got some press, right, particularly when I think Nanking fell.

00:36:50.520 But overall, it was a second or third tier.

00:36:54.080 Is the same thing happened here?

00:36:55.320 Why – you guys call for a national mobilization.

00:36:57.980 But more importantly, I'm going to have Harnwell on who covers this every day.

00:37:02.200 I mean Blinken is at the foreign minister's meeting in Europe right now, and all they're talking about is America, France, and the UK having offensive missiles and tech crews launching missiles into Russian territory with virtually – the whole Taiwan thing is on the second page.

00:37:25.080 That's why your article in The Washington Times is so shocking.

00:37:27.400 When you go through the details and you and Captain Thayer talk about the details of how the CCP has thought this through and have built a scale to be able to overwhelm us immediately and a blow that psychologically the American people – it's one thing to not prevail militarily in Afghanistan. 0.69

00:37:44.180 Another thing not to prepare militarily in Vietnam.

00:37:46.880 You think the politicians stab you in the back.

00:37:49.180 This is psychologically – you could have the second Coral Sea.

00:37:52.380 I mean you could have a couple of carrier battle groups on the bottom, and the American people are not prepared to deal with that.

00:37:58.340 Why is the White House?

00:37:59.560 Why is the media?

00:38:00.920 Why is even the defense industry – why are they not more focused on the coming war in Taiwan, sir?

00:38:07.420 Steve, that's a great question.

00:38:09.000 The Biden administration is focused on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and that conflict.

00:38:16.180 They're loathe to do what's necessary in Taiwan, and this is everything. 1.00

00:38:23.680 Now is the time to act for deterrence.

00:38:26.020 We want this war to be deterred.

00:38:28.020 We don't want to fight a war.

00:38:29.420 We want to ensure that Beijing knows, Xi Jinping knows in his mind what he's thinking, that he can't win a conventional conflict and he can't win a nuclear conflict over Taiwan, and we're not sending those messages of deterrence.

00:38:45.660 Instead, everything is flowing like an obsession, an ide fix, into the Ukraine war.

00:38:52.940 And so when he was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Omar Bradley said the war in Korea was the wrong war at the wrong time, in the wrong place, with the wrong adversary, right?

00:39:05.900 And that's the way we should think of Ukraine, right?

00:39:09.220 Ukraine is not the center of gravity.

00:39:11.980 The Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping is the center of evil in the modern world.

00:39:17.320 It's their support for Russia, which is continuing that conflict, which is allowing Russia to continue it.

00:39:23.760 It's their support in the Middle East, and they want us to have a multiple-front war, right? 0.78

00:39:28.880 They want the United States to be focused on anything but the Indo-Pacific and anything but Taiwan.

00:39:36.080 And thus far, they've largely accomplished that goal, which is what Jim and I are trying to do, is to say, hey, we're moving to conflict here.

00:39:44.400 This is happening right here and right now, and we have a chance to deter it, which is everything.

00:39:52.360 But it's quite likely, if we don't take the measures that Jim identified, we're going to be in a hot war, which is going to escalate horizontally and vertically, vertically in terms of the intensity of the conflict to a nuclear level and horizontally into other theaters.

00:40:08.400 And that is in Guam, the homeland of the United States, as well as sucking in the Japanese, Australians and other countries. 0.98

00:40:16.040 We have the problem in the Pacific Island chains now.

00:40:20.460 Back to something Captain Thayer said.

00:40:22.360 But is the very scale of this and now showing that they're prepared to execute on it, is that fear enough to have the Taiwanese say, you know what?

00:40:32.260 Because right now it's 40 percent of the country.

00:40:34.760 Is this set up to have the Taiwanese say, you know what? 0.99

00:40:38.620 We've got to talk to the Americans.

00:40:40.220 We've got to cut a deal.

00:40:41.660 We have to cut a deal with the Chinese, with the CCP. 1.00

00:40:44.420 As much as we want our freedom, we're just not confident that the Americans are A, focused, or B, even if they are focused, have the materiel and the men and the will, the political will to actually do this.

00:40:59.280 This takes getting the public, and the public's quite savvy about Asia and about how important we're a Pacific country.

00:41:07.860 This is a Pacific century. 0.99

00:41:09.860 We have to be engaged on an America first basis. 0.55

00:41:13.380 But it's not been drilled home to them that, hey, Taiwan falls, the economy in this country will drop 25 percent.

00:41:21.020 The advanced chip design in those factories is not going to be moved to Japan and Phoenix, Arizona overnight.

00:41:26.900 It's as much an art as it is a science.

00:41:29.340 It's going to take at least a decade and maybe more to actually get capacity over here.

00:41:35.120 And the Chinese Communist Party know it.

00:41:37.180 Do you think that one of the things they're doing is this a psyop?

00:41:40.640 And not that they're not militarily ready to do it, but they want to strike fear in the leadership, particularly focused on a decapitation strike.

00:41:47.980 And just have the Taiwanese, particularly the 40 percent of the people that are already quite comfortable being a province and not an independent nation, for another 20 or 30 percent say, hey, look, this thing, we're going to be the tip of it.

00:42:01.540 We're going to get crushed.

00:42:02.960 The Americans are eventually going to get beaten and retreat. 0.52

00:42:06.000 There will be no public support for American lives to defend chip plants in Taiwan.

00:42:10.540 Do you think the CCP is thinking about focusing, doing this without actually firing a shot?

00:42:17.660 I think without question they're focused on that.

00:42:20.360 They want a quick and decisive victory at the lowest cost possible.

00:42:24.340 And if they can win through political warfare by having Taiwan run up the white flag ahead of time, and more importantly, having the Biden administration run up the white flag over Taiwan, that's exactly what they want to achieve.

00:42:39.700 And that's why political mobilization is necessary.

00:42:43.100 Americans need to understand, Steve.

00:42:45.160 Yes, the chips are absolutely important.

00:42:47.560 If those chip factories are shut down, we're in a depression.

00:42:51.000 That is, the West, the American economy is.

00:42:53.880 But Taiwan also matters, secondly, because of its geostrategic space, right?

00:42:58.620 It's, as Douglas MacArthur called it, an unsinkable aircraft carrier, right, that's capable of offensive action against the People's Republic of China, as well as occupying a bottleneck in the first island chain.

00:43:12.700 And then, lastly, thirdly, it matters because of political warfare.

00:43:15.920 Taiwan's existence every day shows what China could have been and might be if the CCP falls, if the Chinese Communist Party falls. 0.84

00:43:26.040 And so the existence of a democracy, vibrant economy, and vibrant democratic state in Taiwan shows the lie and the illegitimacy of the CCP.

00:43:36.840 So they want to kill it for that reason alone.

00:43:39.680 So these things are coming to a head.

00:43:41.520 It's happening right here, right now.

00:43:43.060 Hang on.

00:43:45.680 Let me bring in Ben Harnwell from Rome.

00:43:47.720 Ben, while this is going on, Blinken, and this is where we are with the inaction over Taiwan and a sleep at the switch over Taiwan, we are all in on now going on offense inside Russia with missiles by American technicians and American material, the missiles provided by us, the targeting done by us.

00:44:09.080 It's an open secret, UK, France, and this is all blinking these guys are talking about at the foreign secretaries meeting.

00:44:17.560 We're going on offense on the Eurasian landmass in where the great battles of World War II were decided without American material, without American involvement.

00:44:28.340 And now we're sitting here and we're talking about going on offense against the Russian people, sir. 0.99

00:44:33.240 Yeah, well, this is part of what's going on.

00:44:38.860 And sadly, most of it's going on behind closed curtains.

00:44:44.220 So it's absolutely true, as you say, that Anthony Blinken is working behind the scenes to craft a change in U.S. policy.

00:44:55.420 He's working with his point contacts in the EU because he wants us to look as if this is this change in policy to allow American weapons to be used to strike deep inside Russian territory.

00:45:09.860 He wants that to look as if America is responding to a European demand for that.

00:45:15.680 And he's working behind the scenes to have that policy changed.

00:45:19.120 Something that has emerged, however, Steve, since we recorded the morning show earlier, and I mentioned how the splits, and now this will interest you,

00:45:31.340 and I mentioned how the splits are now emerging in NATO as never before.

00:45:37.460 One country, just to reel back, this meeting in Prague has been called really to sort out a new policy on giving permission to Ukraine to use various NATO member states' weapons in Russia.

00:45:55.100 What's emerged, and this is the first time that I've seen a change in policy, right, this is Antonio Tajani, who is Italy's foreign minister,

00:46:03.820 and, interestingly, an aspirant to be president of the European Commission if the votes, if the numbers work out after the European elections.

00:46:15.060 He said Italy will never send any troops to Ukraine, and any weapons it has supplied to Kiev shall not be used on Russian territory.

00:46:25.220 Now, the importance of this, Steve, as we've been drilling down, like, for the last two years, is that up until now, Italy has been the number one Atlanticist country in NATO.

00:46:37.120 And this is a public, this is a public slap in the face, really.

00:46:43.180 There's no other way to look at this.

00:46:44.320 This is a rebuke to the Biden administration.

00:46:46.720 And I can only speculate the reason behind this is what's going to happen in around eight days' time, which is the European elections.

00:46:56.280 And countries now are paying attention like never before.

00:47:00.940 And you said this, and your guest Michael Leahy mentioned this earlier.

00:47:04.320 There is an anger that is taking place, and it is taking the European elites by surprise.

00:47:10.520 And with eight days to go, they're starting to notice this, and perhaps it's too little, too late.

00:47:17.600 But Italy has always been the number one European Union country opposed to active involvement in the Ukraine war.

00:47:25.180 And this, I think, is the first measure.

00:47:27.380 So whilst America is escalating, the Europeans now, at least Italy, America's foremost ally up until now in NATO, in continental Europe, is now taking a step back.

00:47:39.280 And I think that's a pretty important development.

00:47:43.200 Unbelievable.

00:47:43.860 Ben, where do they go to get – we've got a lot more to talk to you tomorrow about the run-up to the European parliamentary election.

00:47:50.040 A lot of things, splits between AFD and all over Le Pen.

00:47:54.760 People coming together, people coming apart.

00:47:56.940 We're going to walk through it all.

00:47:59.000 Where do people get you in the interim?

00:48:01.120 Thanks, Steve.

00:48:01.900 Get us the social media platform of choice.

00:48:04.680 Simply tap in my surname, at Harnwell.

00:48:07.080 And I've got some great posts at the top of my feed waiting for your perusal right now.

00:48:12.440 Thanks, Steve.

00:48:12.940 Thanks so much.

00:48:13.520 God bless.

00:48:13.840 And that's just not Ben Carnwell talking smack.

00:48:17.100 He's got better engagement than anybody on social media.

00:48:19.760 It drives me nuts.

00:48:21.180 I'm jealous, although I do repost all of his materials.

00:48:24.700 It drives me incredibly.

00:48:25.860 Saying, Ben, thank you so much, brother.

00:48:27.500 Great job.

00:48:28.820 Thanks, Steve.

00:48:29.340 God bless.

00:48:30.500 Dr. Thayer, everybody needs to read this piece.

00:48:33.980 It's very sobering.

00:48:35.380 Something big is happening, and there's willful blindness right now among our leadership.

00:48:42.480 There's willful blindness among the business, the pro-CCP business community.

00:48:48.660 There's willful blindness about the invasion that's happened in our own country with these military-aged men.

00:48:53.500 And when this hits, it's going to hit like no military.

00:48:58.080 It's going to make Pearl Harbor seem like a Sunday picnic.

00:49:03.340 So, Dr. Thayer, where do they go to get all your writings, the book with you and Captain Fennell did, and these new articles you guys are putting up?

00:49:11.280 Well, thanks, Steve.

00:49:13.520 Of course, they can go to Getter or Truth at Bradley Thayer or Brad Thayer on X, and the book is available.

00:49:21.360 And, Steve, you wrote the foreword to it.

00:49:22.820 We thank you very much for that.

00:49:24.300 At Amazon or anywhere else you buy books, you reference the 30s, right?

00:49:28.900 This is exactly like that time where leading up to war, deterrence is everything, and like the 30s, we're willfully blind, as you said, right?

00:49:39.340 And so that's simply inviting aggression.

00:49:43.760 Jack Kennedy had written a book where it really came on the consciousness, Why England Slept.

00:49:50.080 It's Why Americans Sleeping With. 1.00

00:49:51.780 This is so obvious of what's happening.

00:49:53.240 Dr. Thayer, thank you.

00:49:54.180 Captain Fennell, I know you don't do social media.

00:49:56.180 I think we're going to try to eventually get you up there.

00:49:58.960 But is there any way people can contact you, or how do they follow your writings?

00:50:04.400 Well, Brad and I write for American Greatness.

00:50:07.180 We usually do a weekly column, and then we've been doing these special coverages of these exercises with The Washington Times.

00:50:13.100 We appreciate their help.

00:50:14.860 And then you can probably find my email some way if you're really interested.

00:50:20.500 Somebody will help provide it.

00:50:22.380 I would just like to say one last thing about this.

00:50:25.480 Sure.

00:50:26.180 You know, a lot of people say, well, what do we care about what goes on in Taiwan?

00:50:31.600 What do we care if we take a 25% hit to our economy?

00:50:34.640 I got it.

00:50:35.680 But it's not confined to Taiwan.

00:50:38.540 Taiwan is not the final agenda item for the Chinese Communist Party.

00:50:43.620 The Chinese Communist Party detests the United States of America, and they want to destroy us. 0.99

00:50:48.940 And once they have those bases and that stationary aircraft carrier that Brad mentioned, which is the island of Taiwan, they're going to use that to launch out their military to take over the rest of the Pacific, which they've already been working on.

00:51:03.920 But their objective is to destroy the United States.

00:51:06.840 And by being able to take Taiwan, they fracture our alliance structure in Asia.

00:51:11.900 They put Japan at great risk, and they're coming after us. 1.00

00:51:15.660 So the reason you care is because you'd rather fight them over in Taiwan than fight them in Manhattan Beach or Redondo Beach. 0.98

00:51:22.900 Yeah, the Western Pacific.

00:51:26.080 Guys, thank you very much.

00:51:27.480 Brilliant article.

00:51:28.280 We'll push it out everywhere.

00:51:29.360 Thank you for joining us in War Room.

00:51:31.580 Thank you.

00:51:32.420 Incredible.

00:51:33.020 Thank you, Steve.

00:51:33.780 It's all right there in front of you.

00:51:35.820 See what you see.

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Bannon's War Room - June 01, 2024

WarRoom Battleground EP 545： Corruption In Ireland; War With China

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