Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 546： Taking Back Europe; Where Israel Stands

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're

00:00:10.980 doing is blowing people off if you continue to look the other way and shut

00:00:16.140 up then the oppressors the authoritarians get total control and total

00:00:20.580 power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia it's

00:00:25.200 another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:29.100 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've

00:00:32.720 told you this is the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle

00:00:37.440 the truth war room battleground here's your host Stephen K Bannon it's Monday

00:00:44.820 3 June year of our Lord 2024 big breaking news today we'll start right with it

00:00:49.600 with Raheem Kassam night why why do we have such a pivot why is Nigel Farage now

00:00:55.500 having already given up a couple of weeks of what he could be campaigning what was

00:01:00.140 it that drove him to announce he's getting rid of the I guess the chairman

00:01:03.840 of the reform party which he which Nigel started and then he's going to stand for

00:01:07.920 parliament Raheem Kassam yeah that's right Steve Nigel announced a big what they

00:01:14.200 called an emergency press conference earlier today and announced two things

00:01:20.140 number one that he is taking back over as leader of his reform UK party that was

00:01:26.140 derived from the Brexit party which was in turn the successor party of the UK

00:01:31.600 independence party they do things a little differently over in the UK in Europe in

00:01:36.980 terms of the the party makeups and how how readily they're kind of willing to jump

00:01:41.760 from organization to organization and then to the big one is that Nigel has appeared to

00:01:48.580 decide that his decision last week which by the way you know I was quite

00:01:51.980 supportive of to not run for a parliamentary seat was not the right

00:01:57.100 decision for him and now with a with a month to go before election day itself he

00:02:02.560 has decided he is going to run in a fairly winnable seat called Clacton now Steve you

00:02:09.700 may not recall but you were actually in Clacton once upon a time we were both in

00:02:14.040 Clacton once upon a time and that was when there was a defection of a member of the

00:02:19.140 conservative party the governing conservative party to the UK independence party and that

00:02:24.800 gentleman Douglas Carswell actually defected to UKIP stood as a UKIP member of parliament

00:02:29.480 and won that seat so so the groundwork is already there in a seat like Clacton and and

00:02:37.020 what Nigel said in this press conference this morning was that hey we've heard now for the

00:02:42.440 past week the conservative party's positions the labor party's positions nobody is particularly

00:02:47.500 interested in either and so he feels it is incumbent upon him to kind of what he said ginger

00:02:53.120 up the race and throw his hat in the ring now I suspect that what really happened here in

00:02:59.000 addition to that was two things number one he has been going around and campaigning around

00:03:04.260 the country for the past week and he has been getting a lot of feedback from people who say

00:03:08.560 look it's great that we see you out here on the campaign trail but we'd actually really like you

00:03:13.660 to stand for a seat in parliament as well so that was one consideration the second I suspect is they

00:03:19.500 actually put some polling out in a seat like Clacton and realized oh my goodness you know he actually

00:03:25.780 is quite far ahead in this constituency and could well therefore be returned as a member of parliament

00:03:31.660 on July 4th look you've been there on the Brexit you've been there with Nigel for the entire time

00:03:38.780 um and actually the beginning of UKIP and all that that's when I trailed around with you guys and learned

00:03:43.100 so much really about populist nationalism and how it's a global phenomenon uh and really the seed roots

00:03:50.200 of uh of the Trump uh revolt here a lot of that was uh was in the Tea Party movement here and also what

00:03:57.780 you guys did what is the move on Tice I I don't understand that is that he just doesn't think he's

00:04:02.420 on top of things they've always been pretty close I think well why why remove Tice as chairman and step

00:04:08.180 into that and then also run for parliament so he's actually added Tice uh Richard Tice the the leader

00:04:15.520 uh in his stead I mean remember Nigel uh left the leadership role in 2021 took over at GB News

00:04:22.820 overnight became a sensation on national television really became Britain's you know Tucker Carlson at

00:04:28.180 his peak has been um the number one nightly watched television anchor uh in the country um and Richard

00:04:34.800 Tice took over as leader now Tice will take over now is as chairman of the party in a more um uh kind

00:04:41.880 of a not a bureaucratic role but an administrative role let's say uh with Nigel serving as the political

00:04:47.560 face of the party so it's not it's not a slight necessarily against Richard Tice but it is to say

00:04:52.860 look this is an election footing uh we are a political party that is now polling at around I

00:04:57.700 think 14 percent was the latest one four that is was the latest uh that is actually uh the the tippy

00:05:04.660 top of where the UK independence party polled at back in 2015 so as a baseline a month out of an

00:05:12.780 election that is in a pretty good place to be uh really to kind of aim at that 20 percent mark which

00:05:18.960 would return you parliamentary seats I think they realized the only way to go about that was to inject

00:05:24.800 some not uh so not again not a slight on Richard Tice but to inject some serious serious charisma at

00:05:31.220 the top of the political wing of that party well he have to give up how's this work does he have to

00:05:37.400 go up the gb news show can he keep that no he cannot he cannot continue to air on broadcast media uh

00:05:44.040 this would be uh a contravention of uh both election and media broadcaster also he will not uh anchor that

00:05:50.320 show on gb news anymore and in fact uh I don't think you will ever see him on gb news again not in the

00:05:56.200 next five years at least uh he may come on as a guest he may be interviewed by gb news correspondence but

00:06:03.220 he has said that he intends to lead this party to be at its helm for the next five years so by hook or

00:06:10.620 by crook uh whether he is um elected to parliament on july 4th or not he has pledged to remain the leader

00:06:17.820 of the reform party now look that's a big statement to make you never know what's going to happen over

00:06:22.940 the next five years and of course you know just last week he was saying he wouldn't stand for a seat

00:06:28.580 in parliament so things can change obviously but as of today nigel farage has stated that his intent

00:06:34.320 is to return to full-time frontline politics well something must have changed the polling walk me

00:06:41.420 through the polling and how it's changed and it correct me if i'm wrong you know we follow this

00:06:45.840 fairly closely um the tories look pathetic as we knew they would but it doesn't seem like there's a lot

00:06:52.000 of traction under labor is that one of the things that's driving nigel here is just looking at

00:06:57.760 where the polling of the two parties are yeah i think when you look at the amount of you know

00:07:03.600 quote-unquote soft voters on both sides um nigel and richard uh tice will have come to the conclusion

00:07:10.180 that actually uh there is far a far larger uh protest vote out there there is a far larger uh vote that can

00:07:17.900 be uh captured for the long term out there and there is there is a massive massive amount of uh discontent

00:07:24.360 with how both of the major two uk parties uh have have got off the ground with their election campaigns

00:07:30.440 you know the labor party has now for the last week been mired in some scandal regarding uh one of its

00:07:36.320 former members of parliament whether she can or can't stand because of a internecine disciplinary

00:07:41.540 thing uh keir starmer sir keir starmer the leader of the labor party has come out and said outright

00:07:46.740 that he's a socialist but he would also try and limit immigration into the country i mean unbelievable

00:07:52.760 uh uh false and and fraudulent uh claims being made there and on the other hand you've got a

00:07:58.220 conservative party uh that continues to flounder under rishi sunak uh no leadership no charisma no

00:08:04.540 bright ideas of course been in government for the last 14 years have governed to the center to far left

00:08:10.100 frankly and have presided over the largest increase in net migration in the united kingdom

00:08:14.820 ever ever when when ukip was a thing when nigel was first first burst on to the political scene

00:08:23.240 uh net migration into the united kingdom was about 300 000 uh a year last year there were a million

00:08:30.200 people into the united kingdom a million visas that were issued and and the the the general public's

00:08:36.340 uh response to this over the last week has been you know as i said to you by the way uh last week on

00:08:42.340 this show steve that the two major political parties you cannot put a cigarette paper between them

00:08:48.540 um there was a huge protest i think it was in parliament square this weekend against sharia

00:08:56.720 supremacism which was a real show of force by people walk me through that is that one of the

00:09:01.640 things i think nigel's looking at when he sees this kind of popular uprising in the uk uh raheem

00:09:07.640 well look um nigel has often been at loggerheads with uh some of the more uh let's say working

00:09:16.240 class street movements uh in the united kingdom he's he's not a fan of kind of what he uh calls a

00:09:22.960 little bit more boorish way uh of campaigning uh he he really truly is a believer that you can unite

00:09:30.140 people uh no matter where they come from uh what religion or ethnicity they are i i happen to to

00:09:36.180 disagree a little bit with him on that and as you know i have stood shoulder to shoulder with people

00:09:41.120 like tommy robinson on stages in white hall westminster and beyond uh but yes there was a

00:09:47.080 very large street protest out outside parliament this weekend that saw thousands of people uh in

00:09:54.160 opposition to islamism in the uk in opposition uh to sharia supremacism and and they were chanting

00:10:01.060 uh pro-trump slogans they were chanting trump trump trump out there and i suspect that yeah perhaps

00:10:07.040 one of nigel's uh you know thoughts here is that hey actually we don't just need to be a protest

00:10:13.400 movement we need to be a serious political party and give these people something to vote for at the

00:10:18.660 ballot box yes real quickly i think you guys are the only ones that picked up the buried lead on the

00:10:24.900 last sentence of all the official reports about the stabbing of the german police officer once again by

00:10:30.400 a uh one of these migrants uh give me a minute on that because just another example how the media is

00:10:36.140 going to suppress all this and and and it goes back to really when when you and i first got to to

00:10:43.040 talking about this in in the early 2010s and and and these things first started occurring and whether

00:10:49.940 it was the cologne mass rape scandal on new year's eve uh whether it was uh the the uh terror attacks

00:10:57.360 that you saw in the united kingdom in france in germany and beyond in sweden the grenade attacks

00:11:03.360 all of those things i said at the time you know what the political class and the political media

00:11:08.140 tries to do here is to normalize these things to make them commonplace to a point where they don't

00:11:13.280 even need to uh report on them they don't feel like they need to report on them anymore and this

00:11:18.300 incident over the weekend in germany uh really has drawn uh more attention to that attempt to to

00:11:25.100 to bury these things young people across europe and you'll see this in the european parliamentary

00:11:30.540 elections are more and more gravitating towards populist right nationalist uh political parties as

00:11:37.920 a result of that cover-up and you can now see it taking place in the united states too where almost

00:11:43.320 every day and we report on this jack montgomery every week does a great migrant crime roundup for us over

00:11:49.280 at the national polls you see every day some illegal migrant some quote-unquote asylum seeker uh stabbing

00:11:56.720 shooting kidnapping uh drug trafficking human trafficking you name it and you will never see

00:12:02.900 those headlines uh on nbc on cnn or beyond so yeah i mean what you saw this weekend in germany was

00:12:09.500 particularly heinous the video uh was stomach churning um and it will and it will narrow people's focus

00:12:16.160 once again uh to what rot and ruin has been waged upon them by their own political representatives

00:12:21.240 where do they go to get national pulse you guys more than ever you need to be on national pulse where

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00:12:48.080 uh rahim thank you very much i know we're going to be covering the european parliamentary elections

00:12:55.720 and nigel's run for parliament and of course everything that happens on fourth of july thank you sir

00:13:00.680 appreciate it

00:13:02.020 talk about sharia supremacism uh you're in nationalism your hazani is one of the world's leading experts

00:13:10.120 wrote one of the seminal works on nationalism joins us from israel today uh yoram we had something

00:13:17.040 happen and i got into a little bit with joel pollack and rabbi will lucky and michelle bachman on the

00:13:22.260 morning show but i needed to have you on here there's something that happened that i've never seen in

00:13:27.600 the united states where a president looks in the camera and gives a bald-faced lie and that is about

00:13:32.540 this situation in israel in this ceasefire deal i know you've had a weekend of intense

00:13:38.340 political debate the work cabinet met last night can you give us uh as we reach monday evening

00:13:44.280 where exactly do we stand because folks in the united states particularly

00:13:47.300 supporters of israel are absolutely totally corn fused now but what's going on

00:13:51.800 uh right steve that's not very surprising uh what you can see on the news is in fact pretty confusing

00:14:00.260 uh because we have uh joe biden who you may remember him with regard to the ukraine war his

00:14:08.240 position has been as long as it takes as long as it takes even if people don't even know what the goal

00:14:13.460 is it's as long as it takes whereas when it comes to the war in israel to the gaza war uh his

00:14:20.300 his statement is this war's gotta end now now this war's gotta end now why is that because it would be

00:14:28.200 uh good for israel is that that would be good for the the democratic west for our civilization

00:14:33.860 or is it simply i as i i think most israelis believe is it simply the war's gotta end even though none

00:14:42.060 of its goals have been attained because joe biden is afraid that if this war goes on he's going to lose

00:14:46.580 the presidency now so uh biden released a three-stage plan uh that uncoordinated with israel

00:14:56.500 that three-stage plan consists of phase one ceasefire phase one is temporary ceasefire phase two

00:15:04.140 is permanent ceasefire and phase three is pour billions and billions of dollars into reconstructing

00:15:09.880 gaza nowhere in this plan is there the elimination of the the hamas the uh islamo-nazi terrorist

00:15:21.140 organization that started this war so just imagine if uh if it were towards the end of world war ii

00:15:28.240 and uh the the americans uh were being asked to accept a plan in which hitler would continue

00:15:35.040 uh to rule in germany while tens of billions hundreds of billions of dollars were poured

00:15:42.020 into germany while he was still in control so this is extremely confusing uh for the israeli public and

00:15:48.620 it's very difficult to understand for the american public uh and it's it's going to be a test for all

00:15:54.080 of the leaders involved to see uh whether any kind of uh justice can be pulled out of this uh this

00:16:00.600 catastrophic mess of the foreign policy that the biden administration has uh launched upon

00:16:06.080 this whole confusion that came out today about oh some of the cabinet may have known about it maybe

00:16:12.900 they had discussions with biden they didn't tell the the war cabinet talking about didn't tell the

00:16:17.320 overall cabinet you've got the right wing that couldn't respond because it was uh it was uh sap you

00:16:22.760 know the sabbath uh in israel uh what what is going on is and benny gans may drop out of the

00:16:28.240 government is are we going to see a collapse of netanyahu's uh war cabinet which is a coalition

00:16:33.780 government sir well that you we've discussed that uh on this show before that uh biden is uh interested

00:16:42.980 in eliminating netanyahu for the same reason that he's interested in ending the war he thinks that

00:16:49.060 if he eliminates netanyahu he believes that he'll have a pliable uh left of center israeli government

00:16:55.840 uh which will cooperate with him in ending the war and leaving hamas in power which he thinks will

00:17:01.460 make it possible for him to win the election in november now i i think that he's uh grossly

00:17:07.460 overestimating uh the willingness of the israeli public or even of the israeli center left to go

00:17:13.580 along with this plan let's remember that the the uh israeli polls continue to this day to show

00:17:19.600 close to 80 percent of the israeli public um supports the aim of destroying hamas uh as an

00:17:26.620 unconditional aim of uh of this war effort uh beyond that we now have uh really unprecedented in you know

00:17:34.760 in in the last two generations we have 75 percent of uh israeli public opposes established establishing

00:17:41.600 a palestinian state which is biden's uh declared aim and we have over 50 percent of the israeli public

00:17:48.820 now for the first time in generations supporting direct israeli control of gaza now you you may

00:17:57.180 think that that's a good idea or a bad idea but you have to understand where the israeli public is

00:18:02.620 netanyahu does not have the option of accepting biden's plan and i don't even think that gants has the

00:18:10.980 option of of accepting uh biden's plan electorally so what we're what we're looking at is uh

00:18:18.500 something where the main the main action is not being spoken the main action um biden trying to

00:18:25.760 topple uh bb's government while at the same time by the way this is goes in both directions netanyahu in

00:18:33.500 order to survive politically has to defeat hamas he can't accept the biden plan and what that means

00:18:40.060 is that netanyahu has to uh do everything he can to make sure that uh biden loses the election and trump

00:18:46.280 is elected so we have we have really a shoot shootout at okay corral biden versus bb there's there's no

00:18:53.820 way for both of these men to win okay here's what from the maggot perspective at least one is that

00:19:02.240 before the war started you know the msmec you know had it was like a color revolution every night there

00:19:09.260 were protests in the street and they're saying how great it is and you know these secular uh jewish people

00:19:14.380 on on on msmec who hate netanyahu and it looked very much like the summer of love um without george

00:19:22.160 floyd that that they used to try to take out president trump it looked like a color revolution

00:19:26.900 i started to see a little bit i think they had a few people in the streets where do we and and here's

00:19:32.120 what struck maga many of the same characters that are msmec every night and in the new york times

00:19:38.840 hating on trump and hating on maga they're hating on netanyahu and hating on his coalition so are we

00:19:46.520 going to get back into that phase because that seems to me the the the tiger that's below the house

00:19:52.880 we see an inkling of that and did biden regime give them enough hook to say oh these guys are

00:19:58.960 recalcitrant they just want to have genocide they're not worried about peace and they're not worried about

00:20:03.860 getting their hostages back sir steve we're already there i mean i understand that the uh that the

00:20:10.760 the american uh media has uh other things to cover uh besides leftist protests in tel aviv but we're

00:20:18.480 already there we have uh a war in gaza and a ward let's not forget every single day and every night on the

00:20:25.720 lebanon border uh and at the same time we have color revolution going on there's uh an internationally

00:20:32.640 funded internationally strategized um uh coalition of the far israeli left so far it has not really

00:20:40.920 picked up traction in israel that's why you're not hearing about it but we have uh our our highways

00:20:47.460 are being blocked um week in and week out uh the the attempt to declare that uh netanyahu is

00:20:56.220 illegitimate has been going on for uh for years and the the the tactics are exactly the uh uh the the

00:21:04.180 the the the george floyd riot tactics they're the same tactics that you're seeing on on u.s campuses

00:21:09.900 the the fact is that they have not really succeeded yet in uh in grabbing israel's attention as as was

00:21:19.360 said before um the israeli polls do not show a lot of support for this uh this uh uh leftist anti-war

00:21:27.360 uh peace now effort in in tel aviv it looks like a foreign implant to most israelis but it's happening

00:21:36.000 and you can expect that as things uh heat up as uh biden and the international left become

00:21:43.140 more desperate to replace netanyahu you can expect that this is going to heat up

00:21:48.020 uh last question uh you have four combat brigades at a minimum in gaza in southern gaza rafa you have

00:21:57.540 at least two combat brigades it appears in judeo-samaria you have the persian militias and

00:22:02.460 hezbollah and all that on the northern border which gets underreported can israel militarily win this

00:22:08.880 war sir in your mind yes steve i mean you know this this is something we we've gotten to watch

00:22:15.480 the israeli military now for uh for eight months and we all know things that we didn't know eight

00:22:20.720 months ago uh we know that israel is is is capable of fighting uh uh simultaneously above the ground

00:22:27.980 below the ground that it's capable of inflicting uh massive damage on uh uh on on arab forces uh while

00:22:36.920 maintaining a a really kind of astonishingly uh low level of uh of casualties among israeli forces

00:22:45.840 we know that israel is capable of uh re-entering the phase of its history where it relies on uh heavily

00:22:52.720 on a reserve military uh and where you know much of the adult male population is cycling in and out of

00:23:00.500 of the different war fronts um all of these things are things that we didn't know eight months ago

00:23:05.180 and right now it looks like israel is militarily much stronger and much more capable than we'd

00:23:11.160 thought even even the exchange uh with iran the exchange of fire with iran makes israel made israel

00:23:18.120 look like a much more capable power than than uh maybe we had uh worried or suspected before that

00:23:24.600 the problem is that uh since that that from october from the beginning of november israel has been

00:23:31.500 carrying uh the uh the uh the the the the white house the state department and and and the defense

00:23:37.140 department on its back and uh we you know we know from our soldiers at the front that uh that uh the

00:23:45.080 current battle in uh rafiach to take over uh the the the the the last great hamas stronghold in the south

00:23:52.540 the order to conquer rafiach has not gone out to the soldiers yet there is fighting that fighting is

00:24:00.060 street by street and it's being navigated constantly on daily calls with the american government and we

00:24:07.040 should be ashamed that israel has to carry this monkey on its back and we should be ashamed that

00:24:12.680 americans should be ashamed that this is what the u.s president spends his time doing is is navigating

00:24:20.400 street by street neighborhood by neighborhood combat in gaza instead of worrying about china or the

00:24:25.680 southern border or or the many other problems that he was elected to deal with it it's uh it's it's

00:24:32.280 painful to say this uh america is uh not allowing israel to fight this war

00:24:38.540 unbelievable and if you needed proof i mean a bald-faced lie and he repeated it over and over

00:24:46.660 this is israel's proposal this israel proposal i said when i was watching that's got to be a lie

00:24:51.800 because it didn't have the destruction hamas in it yoram uh i'm going to be one of the speakers at

00:24:56.520 your uh national conservatism conference can you give some people details of where they can go

00:25:01.200 to get all the information i can't can't wait to have you there um national conservatism conference

00:25:07.500 in washington dc uh july 8th through 10th three full days of the nationalist conservative view all of the

00:25:16.820 best thinkers and speakers are going to be there uh and uh you can go on uh online to national

00:25:23.020 conservatism.com or natcon.com either of those will work and sign up to come to the conference i can't

00:25:30.640 wait no everybody there it's going to be fantastic uh we're going to we're going to have a big turnout

00:25:36.780 um yoram where do people go to get uh your social media and all your writings for more important now

00:25:42.620 than ever sir thank you uh why chazoni that's y h a z o n y uh why chazoni on twitter dot on twitter

00:25:52.840 dot com or it's i guess it's twitter x these days um and on on uh uh online you're on chazoni.org

00:26:00.640 that's one word you're on chazoni.org my uh my books are all there my my essays happy to hear from

00:26:07.020 everybody about what they think about them brother thank you so much looking forward to seeing you in

00:26:12.940 dc very good sir very tough situation very tough situation in israel that's what we had uh michelle

00:26:20.560 bachman dean bachman joel pollack rabbi walecki and uh yoram hazani on today to explain because very

00:26:27.260 confusing when a president sits there in the white house and lies to you bald face and i mean

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00:33:59.580 everything else going on the week president trump all the fights nigel farage announced uh he's

00:34:04.720 running for parliament we had rahim on to start the show want to pivot now ben harnwell's done an

00:34:09.820 incredible job there was a great uh been some great media in this the voting starts later in the week

00:34:14.360 uh we're gonna i'm gonna play the cold ben's gonna come on jump right in and uh and then uh we'll

00:34:21.060 let it rip from there uh let's go ahead and play the cold open the one election everyone in europe cares

00:34:25.960 about and is paying attention to is the american presidential election the other thing that struck

00:34:31.080 me is that almost every official i spoke to believed that donald trump was going to win again

00:34:36.380 and they they say that with a sense of dread in some cases bordering on panic honestly you know

00:34:43.140 uh the word that i heard most often in these interviews was existential they said if donald trump

00:34:50.280 comes back you know we we made it through the first trump term right and and it it took a toll

00:34:56.500 on the transatlantic relationship but but they made it through they said if he comes back given what he's

00:35:01.680 been saying about nato given what he's been saying about russia the war in ukraine uh they're really

00:35:07.080 afraid that it will be the end of nato and the beginning of a new stage of russian aggression that

00:35:13.220 europe frankly isn't prepared for without america's support we have seen in the united states

00:35:18.420 populism and a you know really virulent strand of nationalism anti-immigration anti-immigration

00:35:25.360 that has really roiled our politics here what what is happening in that front in europe uh it looks

00:35:32.060 from a distance that they're having some of the same issues internally within the conservative

00:35:36.600 parties there the anti-immigration the populism is that something that europe is also worried about

00:35:42.640 oh no question you know the the the fear of trump's return uh in europe is is of a piece with the fear

00:35:50.620 of a broader rise of right-wing populism and nationalism across europe we've seen it in the uk we've seen it

00:35:56.200 in italy uh in germany the uh afd party which is the far right party there was one recent poll that

00:36:03.320 found that 25 percent of germans now identify with that party and that's a pretty extreme party so

00:36:09.420 there there's no question that throughout western democracies and really in europe especially

00:36:14.040 we've seen a lot of the same forces that have contributed to trump's rise and so in some ways

00:36:19.360 the europeans kind of understand trump through that prism right they're saying you know we get it we have

00:36:25.440 our own issues here some of our our allies have elected leaders like donald trump but it's different

00:36:31.540 when it happens in america because america is not only the linchpin of the of nato alliance it is

00:36:39.260 in a lot of ways seen as kind of the big brother right the european countries rely on america for

00:36:45.700 security they rely on it for leadership they rely on america to set an example to the world for what

00:36:52.820 a well-functioning western democracy should look like and a lot of the anxiety about this election

00:36:59.300 in europe is stems from the fact that they're seeing this kind of chaos in american democracy and

00:37:05.540 wondering if the the city on a hill can still be looked to as an example and and that causes a lot

00:37:13.040 of alarm in our among our friends in europe what other steps are he and his fellow european leaders

00:37:18.840 taking to try to if you will trump proof uh what they're doing right now ahead of his possible return

00:37:26.180 yeah there have been a number of efforts recently uh proposed one of them as you mentioned is uh you know

00:37:33.980 developing defense autonomy in europe in a way that would uh potentially channel funds away from

00:37:40.120 nato which really does rely on america and toward the european defense alliance there's been talk of

00:37:46.000 uh taking the responsibility for arming ukraine the literal logistical responsibility out of america's

00:37:52.660 hands and putting that in nato's hands because they don't know if a future trump administration would

00:37:57.760 abandon the war or not um and really the biggest change has been uh that a lot of european allies

00:38:05.020 are spending a lot more now on their own defense and this is one thing that you know trump takes credit

00:38:11.340 for and i have to say a lot of the european officials i spoke to actually grudgingly gave him

00:38:16.380 some credit for they said you know trump by kind of uh being so vociferous about this issue that european

00:38:23.080 allies aren't spending enough on defense has sort of bullied a lot of these countries into spending

00:38:28.780 more but it's come at a cost and that cost is that these european countries while they are are now

00:38:35.100 spending more on collective defense contributing more to nato also don't trust america as a a long-term

00:38:42.600 ally the way that they have for the last 75 years and when when america becomes an unpredictable

00:38:48.620 power or a transactional power uh that changes the entire global order in ways that i don't think we

00:38:56.060 can predict right now thanks very much steve um you know what i'm just going to respond briefly if i

00:39:01.740 may to the nigel farage development first and then go to the mckay coppins thing on um hits that we've

00:39:08.460 just heard on on the msnbc look as far as i'm concerned let's look what look at what nigel said here

00:39:15.140 he said that and there is a rejection of the political class going on in this country in a way

00:39:21.400 that has not been seen in modern times um and i genuinely believe that we can get more votes in

00:39:29.180 this election than the conservative party they are he says on the verge of total collapse look i think

00:39:36.820 uh there's a real direct relation a direct straight line here between this development between nigel

00:39:44.160 retaking the leadership of reform uk and the general electoral conditions that that have have

00:39:51.660 demanded that this event um and what they're discussing uh on uh on on morning mika the point

00:40:00.800 here is that the tory party has for decades since margaret thatcher got gotten away with this line

00:40:09.200 that basically where else will people go we can come as close to the center as as we feel we have

00:40:16.540 to because beyond us beyond beyond us on the right flank that there are no alternatives there's nowhere

00:40:24.000 for people to go and they've really abused that position of authority that they have um and that's

00:40:30.980 why it's absolutely essential and by the way i'll just add steve that i think the my take on this

00:40:36.460 you know i'm sure reform uk i'm sure nigel's gonna sweat blind this isn't true the actual enemy that the

00:40:42.880 objective in this is to wipe out the tory party it's not to put a frame a break excuse me on um

00:40:52.100 on on on the labor party on kirstama is to destroy the cancer that is the um the tory party because it's

00:41:02.640 not the conservative party anymore it's been totally taken over by the by these parasitical

00:41:08.220 globalists so look with that in mind let's come back now to what the atlantic guy um mccary coppins

00:41:15.580 was saying on on ms uh mbc he said he's closing i'll start from the end if i may steve and just work

00:41:23.460 back he says america as a transactional power changes the global order and of course that they're

00:41:31.200 sort of melting down uh the prospect of this and you know he built that on his opening words that

00:41:37.240 everyone he's spoken to in europe thinks that donald trump is going to win again what why are they

00:41:43.880 having steve simple question why are they having uh a nervous breakdown at the idea that america

00:41:52.540 should should under trump under a second trump mandate will be a transactional power what is so

00:41:58.320 terrifying for them about having a president in charge of the country who is transactional

00:42:05.580 about his relationships who expects transactionally if he's giving something out for other countries

00:42:12.540 that american taxpayers are going to get something in return why is that so horrific to these people

00:42:19.180 well i think the answer is um when uh when he said he he quoted that the old reaganite bromide uh that

00:42:29.920 america was a shining city on a hill and of course it was in the 1980s throughout the cold war america and

00:42:36.740 its cause for liberty was acting as a shining city on a hill the reason why the european elites are feeding

00:42:44.620 back to the atlantic that they're absolutely terrified is because america is no longer the

00:42:49.940 shining city on the hill just as the british tory party has been taken over by a a class of of what

00:42:58.020 we call sociopathic overlords a parasitical class so america has been betrayed repeatedly by its political

00:43:05.560 class and instead of being this beacon for liberty right across the world in the face of totalitarian

00:43:12.980 um oppression it's really as this guy says but in a different context steve it is a linchpin on the

00:43:20.540 world stage but america is not a linchpin for for democracy it's not really not even in the sense of

00:43:27.320 defense by nato what america is as a is a linchpin is a linchpin for the for the globalist order in this

00:43:35.060 this international globalistic hegemonic order and that is what is sending the the european elites

00:43:42.800 into a into an absolute meltdown and it's beautiful to watch steve so in the same way that we're going to

00:43:51.260 see nigel farage give the british conservative party a bloody nose i hope we're going to see the same happen

00:43:58.140 to our european corrupt elites ben harnwell as usual this is why we got you in rome so the first one out of the

00:44:05.740 box going to be the european parliamentary elections will be all over this every day in the run-up to it

00:44:10.480 this uh weekend uh and then of course on fourth of july we have nigel uh right after that president

00:44:16.020 trump will be will be sentenced uh the republican national convention it's going to be jammed jammed

00:44:20.840 jammed for the next couple of months uh ben harnwell brother harnwell thank you so much

00:44:25.500 tiananmen square you know with my helping with the foundation of the new federal state of china which is

00:44:31.280 kind of what they argue is a alternative provisional government when the chinese communist party falls

00:44:36.480 by uh patriots throughout uh throughout quite frankly mainland china and throughout the uh throughout the

00:44:42.600 world the expatriates of lao baijing one thing we always try to do it was formed on for june a couple

00:44:49.840 of years ago during uh during the uh pandemic in 2020 when we actually shut down the harbor was shut

00:44:56.160 down so it's pretty amazing that we could launch it then but we always like to appropriately

00:45:01.480 commemorate what happened in tiananmen square uh because i don't think it's well known and they

00:45:06.880 and people haven't really done a good job of commemorating so dr bradley thayer is going to join

00:45:11.060 us dr thayer thank you so much uh for joining us and tell us put us put us on tiananmen square what led

00:45:16.520 up to it what happened that day dr thayer steve thanks uh it's great pleasure to join you again

00:45:21.900 to talk about this very important um topic as you noted of course it's uh uh tomorrow morning in

00:45:29.200 beijing uh where uh june 4th of course is the anniversary of uh the tiananmen square massacre

00:45:36.040 and it's important to think through really what happened and then what the lessons and legacy are

00:45:41.380 of tiananmen square uh so what happened was in the early morning of june 4th 1989 the people's

00:45:49.260 liberation army uh cleared tiananmen square uh and in by so doing killed many hundreds and quite likely

00:45:57.640 thousands of um largely chinese uh students uh also workers uh as well but largely students

00:46:06.480 and that became known as the tiananmen square massacre the protest that started in april of um 1989

00:46:15.460 gradually spread uh in terms of the locus of tiananmen square until there were many hundreds of

00:46:23.540 thousands of people there uh but the army under uh the leadership of dung zhaoping ordered uh that

00:46:31.620 that square be cleared uh and that was uh done on the morning of june 4th uh there was great instability

00:46:39.440 afterwards and tiananmen square of course took place in smaller entities as well throughout china

00:46:45.720 many many dozens of cities uh throughout china uh witnessed similar uh protests so the bottom line

00:46:53.560 is that the chinese communist party crushed a nascent democracy movement uh the legacy of that of course

00:47:00.920 is very significant because it shows the lessons uh for the rest of the world for the american people

00:47:07.260 for the audience to understand this is what the chinese communist party will do they have a long

00:47:13.560 history of killing their own people under mao zedong or dung zhaoping or right now under communist

00:47:19.560 dictator uh xi jinping uh and so uh we should never underestimate uh the tyranny uh of this regime

00:47:28.940 the legacy also remains that democracy of course is a very powerful impetus uh in china today taiwan

00:47:38.000 demonstrates what china may become at some point a free uh democracy vibrant uh democracy which is why

00:47:45.540 it's so important that the chinese communist party crush uh taiwan uh and conquer it as they're crushing

00:47:53.380 hong kong uh uh presently because hong kong is also a symbol of a better political system uh than the

00:48:00.920 communist uh tyranny additional uh lessons of this uh massacre or that the chinese communist party will

00:48:09.140 stop at nothing to stay in control uh they saw the fall of the soviet union and dung zhaoping and his

00:48:16.180 successors up to xi jinping today are determined not to yield to any type of political reform

00:48:22.980 uh or protest another telling legacy is also how high technology advanced technology uh helps the ccp

00:48:32.840 maintain control where you had tiananmen square 35 years ago today you have a social credit system you

00:48:40.620 have essentially uh information processing technology that makes policing uh the chinese people far more

00:48:48.160 effective for the party uh and that's sad to note but that's a simple fact of the situation uh today

00:48:55.020 uh so you may recall and the audience may recall the blank page protests in november december

00:49:00.260 of uh 2022 where the party was able to ensure that those protests could not spread you couldn't have

00:49:08.360 another tiananmen uh because of their tight control over all information processing uh technology

00:49:14.520 so the legacy of tiananmen in essence is democracy and the impetus for democracy remains secondly the

00:49:23.220 tyranny of the communist party their brutal tyrannical force that will stop at nothing from maintaining

00:49:28.600 their control uh in the people's republic of china over the chinese uh people and thirdly the legacy is

00:49:37.080 also uh that it shows the true nature of the regime for the american people for the audience to

00:49:43.360 understand uh the nature of this tyranny why it's a center of evil in the modern world and why people

00:49:50.780 of goodwill around the world people in china the chinese diaspora the american people and others

00:49:56.680 around the world need to stand with the chinese people to evict the illegitimate uh regime the chinese

00:50:03.360 communist party uh from power because it's a source of hyper-oppression that needs to be eliminated

00:50:09.560 we're trying to cram everything else that's in we are going to have ben uh every day join us to talk

00:50:14.920 about difference we're going to drill down to some of the specifics of the european parliamentary

00:50:20.220 election very important to our movement uh also i want to thank dr bradley thayer tomorrow we're going

00:50:26.660 to try to get him and captain finnell on to talk about tiananmen and bring it forward to uh to the

00:50:32.340 crisis we have in taiwan today they did a magnificent job the other day on the six o'clock hour so i want to

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