WarRoom Battleground EP 552: Hidden Wealth Of Chinese Rulers
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Stephen K. Bannon, Jason F. Furman, and Jason M. Moore discuss the Biden economy, the Biden agenda, and his future plans for the country if Donald Trump were elected president in 2020. They discuss what a Biden economic plan would look like if he were re-elected and what he would do if he won the White House.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're
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doing is blowing people off if you continue to look the other way and shut
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up then the oppressors the authoritarians get total control and total
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power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia it's
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another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations that's why this audience is going to have to get
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engaged as we've told you this is the fight all this nonsense all this spin
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they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host Stephen K
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Bannon it's not a debate the Trump economy in the Biden economy and and
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future plans Stephen Moore is a senior economic advisor to the Trump 2024
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presidential campaign the co-founder of the committee to unleash prosperity also
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former Council of Economic Advisers chairman Jason Furman he's an economics
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professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government and while we're gonna break
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can break some new ground here Steve let's if Trump were to regain the
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presidency former President Trump what are some of the planks of his plan I'm
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seeing something about even further cuts for corporate taxes is that really a
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being considered hey Joe good to be with you and good to be with Jason as well
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look I think there's no question the top priority will be to make sure that those
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tax cuts that Art Laffer and I and Larry Kudlow and others helped put together for
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Trump and you know we did it there was a lot of controversy about whether it would
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work and you know clearly it did we had a boom and investment we by the way I just
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look at these numbers Joe corporate tax revenues have have almost doubled since
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we cut the tax rate I think there's a Laffer curve it says that kind of thing
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will happen but then you know it's not just taxes I think there's no question
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we're gonna have a very pro-American energy policy we're gonna head back to
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being energy independent again we're gonna drill for oil we're gonna use our
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clean coal we're gonna use our natural gas to lessen the impact that countries
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like Iran and Russia and China have over the world economy and then finally you
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know we want to get Americans back to work we want policies that could actually
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help people get back into jobs and not just jobs but jobs that pay well you know
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when you've got a problem Joe a lot of families today middle-class families a
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hard time being able to afford to go to McDonald's for goodness sakes I mean this
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has been an agenda for your agenda there was really crushed middle-class
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families Jason there there are certain things that you probably wouldn't
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disagree with I guess there but I there are some things you'd probably like to
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push back on it that Steven just said it what would be different if the
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president wins reelection yeah I mean Steve left out the biggest tax increase
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that Donald Trump is proposing in fact it's the only very explicitly worked out part
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of his platform that I'm aware of which is a ten percent tax on all imports and a
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sixty percent tax on everything coming from China I was not a fan of the latest
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round of tariffs that President Biden proposed let's put some perspective on
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them they were on 18 billion dollars of imports we import four trillion dollars
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worth of stuff so you're talking about 200 times the scope of what the recent Biden
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tariffs were for a typical family you're talking an extra seventeen hundred dollars
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of costs and then you add that to the other inflationary parts of the agenda you
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have advisors to President Trump saying that he would fire Jay Powell within the
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first hundred days that would set up a massive massive amount of uncertainty
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court cases and the like let's say he doesn't fire him in the first hundred days
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but he just tweets at him saying that he's worse enemy than President Xi which is
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what he did on the last time he was president one of the things that President
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Biden has done that I really respect has been to respect and strengthen on the
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independence of the Fed even while it was raising rates really rapidly of what
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happens if that comes to an end so I think there's a lot of peril here a lot of it
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can be expressed especially in terms of inflation and tax increases on middle-class
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families Jason do you I think I asked you about the capital gains increase and you
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really weren't that that anti capital gains that that President Biden was talking
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about and I don't what about the taxing unrealized gains both of those two to
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many people those are both sort of anathema to any normal economic thinking
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do you do you are you go along with both of those ideas I mean they're both way
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better than any of the tariffs that we've just been talking about Joe but um but
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there's a lot of economic logic to taxing unrealized gains right now one of the
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problems with the capital gains system is that it locks in your gains it dissuades
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you from selling because you want to hold until later when you get a lower rate that
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is a proposal that applies to a relatively small slice of people you know we could
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argue what the right rate of taxing capital income is and I'm open to a variety of things
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in fact I'd like to reform the tax code so we had permanent expensing and got rid of the
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interest deduction more incentives for business investment going forward but you know we're
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going to need to raise revenue somehow what about the tariff issue Steve well look on the tariffs I
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worked with Trump in his first administration we talked a lot about tariffs it's interesting because
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you know when I've talked to Trump about this over the years he's always said Steve I use tariffs as a
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weapon and he does and he's used it in my and by the way I'm a free trade guy like Jason is I don't
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like terrorists but you know it is an absolute truth that Trump used the threat of terrorists highly
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effectively in his first term it was the threat of terrorists that got the European nations to pay
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their NATO dues it was the threat of terrorists on Mexico that got Mexico to help secure the border
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it was the standing head you know toe-to-toe with President Xi and saying look I'm going to slap
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you with a 40 percent tariff unless you start playing by the rules and stop stealing our intellectual
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property and you know what all of those things worked and it's really interesting Joel because
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if you look at the tariffs from that were implied by Trump versus the tariffs that have applied to
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Biden Biden actually has higher tariffs than Trump does so come on that isn't kind of a fair thing
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now one other point I mean this capital gains issue that you brought up is incredibly important
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to investors most of the people watching the show watch it because you're investing your money or
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investing other people's money this would be an economic cyanide pill to the U.S. economy he's
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talking about and by the way I'll give Biden credit he's telling people these crazy things that he wants
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to do like tax unrealized capital gains which has never done been done before in the history of this
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country people would literally have to sell the farm to pay the taxes and the capital gains tax would
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go up in the United States to roughly the highest in the world higher than China higher than Russia
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higher than Europe like how in the world is the United States going to compete with those high rates
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okay that was Steve Moore versus Furman Furman is one of the economists for the president
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Steve Moore joins us and I really want to thank CNBC for allowing that to kind of happen it was a
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mini debate Steve Moore just for our audience can you sum up the points Furman's trying to make in
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trying to defend or put forward the case for Bidenomics in your mind before I know you're one
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of President Trump's closest advisors when it comes to the economy and you know you did a great job
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with Larry Kudlow and others in the first term Peter Navarro although we don't agree on everything
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um but just make what what is Furman what's what is the case that he's trying to make for Bidenomics
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well it's a tough case to make yes Steve as you know because on you know we just did an analysis
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that in on 28 of the 32 major economic uh measures of how a president does Trump outperforms Biden and
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in most cases by a wide amount and people who go to our website committee to unleash prosperity.com you
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can find that chart book showing you know everything from inflation to gas prices to poverty rates to
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unemployment to uh you know productivity of the economy every single one of them with a few
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exceptions shows that Trump has highly outperformed Biden so what Biden the Biden people are trying
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to do now is say look all the problems that have developed under Biden have been due to Trump but that
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you know let me give you an example why that's not true so they're saying oh Trump is the one who
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caused the inflation well wait a minute the inflation rate Steve was 1.5 percent when Trump
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left office in his last year in office it was less than two percent and then all of a sudden goes to
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nine percent under Biden and he blames that on uh Trump so I think that's what you're going to see more
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of in the next four months is Biden can't and his economists cannot um defend their record so they have
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to blame it on Trump go back because your advisors and that year uh 19 particularly was the golden
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before the bioweapon uh the Chinese bioweapon hit us was a golden year for economics you guys were
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hitting on all cylinders you know low inflation low interest rates yes walk me through in your mind
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the two or three fundamental mistakes that you think having you guys really handed off the football
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the two or three mistakes that you believe Biden and his team like Furman made from the beginning
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okay so do you hear me you know where to begin yeah I hear you loud and clear you know what mistakes
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did they make well the biggest mistake of all was coming into office uh at a time when COVID was
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over and remember the economy grew by 11 percent in the last six months of the of the Trump
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administration when we reopened the economy and by the way I love Donald J Trump I think he was a
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great president but I think he made a lot of mistakes under COVID and he should not have let
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Pouchy and these others shut down the economy and shut down our schools that was a horrendous mistake
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but then Biden came in and they tried to seize on this opportunity uh to just spend money trillions
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of dollars I mean my god Steve they spent three to four trillion dollars right out of the gate uh
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which was all paid for by debt all paid for by printing money and those of us you and me and
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Laffer and Kudlow we all said wait a minute this is crazy you're going to send inflation through the roof
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and remember all their accounts oh no don't worry it's not going to cause inflation
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well inflation went up to nine and a half percent and you know if you look at the real inflation rate
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with the how high are prices today versus what they were under Trump and you look at the necessities
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of life they're up 25 or 30 percent in some cases 40 percent mortgages are up 80 percent and that was all
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a result of this massive spending spree by Biden and then of course the the other thing that he did
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that you know you talk a lot about and I talk a lot about is he declared war on American energy
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so he shut down our coal he shut down uh much of our pipelines he shut down LNG terminals he just took
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off another three million acres of prime oil and gas lands in Alaska I mean that's not an America first
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policy and that's the reason you're paying 389 a gallon not 249 a gallon for gas
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um by the way with President Trump I think with the shutdown too given the facts or knowing the
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time because remember this initially was to slow the spread I think given the recommendation he had
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I cannot say in hindsight I I agree with you and I think he was agree with you too but given
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and by the way Steve you know I think the time I was in it was a lot it was a logical decision
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yep yeah well I mean I don't know if it was logical but I will say this that every meeting I had from
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him starting after that what was it 15 days to stop the spread every single meeting we had yeah he's
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like what are we doing to get the economy open what are we doing to get schools open and the problem
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is look Steve his biggest mistake or one of his biggest mistakes as president he should have fired
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Fauci on day one Fauci was a liar a criminal uh misspent money and became a national hero because
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he was contradicting everything that Trump was saying praying to Trump by the way that was about
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four years ago it was May May and June I know 2020 I know um since you're one of the advisors and I want
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to get people to go to your site and get these 32 indices because that's where the facts be for
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themselves so right the way you guys have set this analysis up is amazing but what what do you and
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Laffer and Kudlow I know you guys kind of work as a team you're the supply side guys looking forward
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because this economy under Biden has got so much embedded it's not going to get better what are you
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recommending to the president on the afternoon of 20 January of 2025 the first couple of actions his
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economic team is is recommending sir you know I had this conversation with the president about three
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weeks ago and he told me and he's been saying this now publicly that he will have a stack probably
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an inch and a half high of executive orders basically reversing all the crazy things on energy policy on
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tax policy on regulation policy that Biden has put in place and I'm here to tell you I really honestly
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believe this that if Biden if Trump wins this election I think he will I think you're going to see
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an explosion of economic growth and prosperity in this country uh and I don't look you know Steve I
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don't agree with everything Trump wants to do I'm more of a you're more of a you know a protectionist
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I'm more of a free trade guy but I got to tell your listening audience that Trump is going to unleash
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the biggest boom because he's going to let our our businesses grow he's going to let the private
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sector do it he's going to cut taxes he's going to cut regulations better trade deals he is going to
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we're going to see the biggest boom in American energy and I'm not talking about green energy I'm
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talking about let's use our oil our gas our coal our nuclear power everything we've got
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I'm really optimistic about America if Trump wins I really am I think we're going to see
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that one of the biggest booms you ever saw in this country
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one of the leading indicators of that in Germany which has tried to de-industrialize by their elites the
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green party got absolutely the green party got eviscerated and and young people are saying get rid
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of it this is this is what president Trump we get we could go back to full spectrum energy dominance
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that will be the predicate or the foundational element for everything else uh Steve Moore I really want
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people to go to your site and and to review these indices and I want you to share it so where do people
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go right now sir yeah I want people to go to uh committee to unleash prosperity.com that's
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committee to unleash prosperity.com you can see for example the report we did on COVID uh showed all
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the mistakes that were made and especially during the Biden era by the way did you know Steve more
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people died of COVID under Biden than Trump did you know that I did know that yeah I mean a lot of
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Americans don't know that more people died under Biden than Trump under under COVID um but also I want
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people to sign up for our free hotline I know you get it every morning uh just you know give us your
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email we'll send it to you for free it costs nothing so committee to unleash prosperity.com and Steve
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you know you are a national hero you're a patriot thank you for everything that you do and I can't wait to
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see you in the White House in in uh in a year oh my god oh my god you're coming back Steve Moore don't
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tell them that their heads their heads are their heads are blowing up their heads are blowing up
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already I know more we know we know more I'll be here at the war room you'll be in the White House
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we'll have you on every other day Steve Moore thank you so much brother great thank you Steve great
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debate I want to thank Rav uh and Lindell TV for getting it up for us that's very important go to go to
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the site and check out the 32 indices you'll see where President Trump comes on 28.
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um this economy is not going to be done in isolation and one of the biggest geostrategic
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debates we have and in fact it's we argue to decouple and decouple hard and support Lao
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Beijing uh the noble and brave Chinese people in overthrowing their sociopathic overlords the
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dictators around the country um and this debate still rages obviously you know President Trump's
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going to meet later this week the business roundtable the business roundtable will be to a
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man uh about continuing the hardwired the hard coupling with uh the Chinese Communist Party Wall
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Street uh Silicon Valley uh all of it if you want to see the reality of what's that's brought if you
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want to see the reality of you know 20 or 30 years of of of coupling of hard coupling with the Chinese
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Communist Party and really the antecedents go back to the late 1940s the congressional research
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service CRS and under people with like Andy Ogles and Senator Ruby and others helping get it done
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have I believe produced the most brutal report I've ever read about the hypocrisy of the modern world
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they have uh stripped away a communist dictatorship and shown that they're the richest they're just oh
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look they're just autocrats and dictators the factions there are the wealthiest people on earth
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they make the gulf emirates look like pikers they make the Russian oligarchs and Ukrainian
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oligarchs look like pikers I mean everybody that lives in Belgravia and the west end of London is
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is nothing compared to the wealth that they've accumulated now two of our favorite people Dr.
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Bradley Thayer we had him on yesterday for a little taste and Bill Gertz have done separate
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uh stories on this Bill Gertz has done it of course the Washington time where he's been the
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the China hand there for many many years uh and Dr. Bradley Thayer had a brilliant piece that we
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started yesterday I want to start with Bill Gertz Bill you but you've advocated this for many many
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years walk us through exactly what the CRS report says and why it's so important that we press this
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every day because this is the greatest information we could ever put out about the people that
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enslave the noble brave and dignified Chinese people sir yeah this is my third story on this topic
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uh in the Washington Times in April I reported that there was this section of the fiscal year 23
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national defense authorization which requires the intelligence community to produce a report
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specifically on Chinese corruption and hidden wealth known to be in the billions of dollars
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and this report was originally due in December of last year and the intelligence community has not
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done it yet uh my guess is that uh our illustrious intelligence analysis bureaucracy is trying to
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torpedo it the office of the director of national intelligence told me in April that they are aware of
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the legal requirement for this report and are working on the report fast forward uh Andy Ogles as you
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mentioned a uh uh Tennessee Republican congressman he then passed additional legislation that gives the
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DNI six more months to produce this report that was due again last December and this as you said this is
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extremely important because it shows how corrupt and despised the Chinese Communist Party is and this
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will directly contradict the Biden administration policy which has been stated by the president himself and
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Secretary of State Blinken who said that they do not seek to undermine the Chinese Communist Party this is the
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fatal flaw in the Biden administration uh policy towards China they don't understand that this is a corrupt and
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despised dictatorship that has to be exposed and we've got to expose it
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what is it that the intelligence community because this information is out there it's out there in
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unclassified now it helps classified but why are they slow walking because it has to be slow walking it can't be
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that they can't get the information or at least do enough they can get it out there why is the intelligence
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community number one why do they not deliver on time and to any ogles and andy's great he's a fire-breathing anti-ccp uh congressman
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why did ogles decide that he would work to give him six more months but then demand that they deliver
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well uh they passed some new legislation or they they've introduced new legislation to give them
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uh six more months and they also require testimony they want public testimony again this is a public
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document and of course the intelligence community is going to claim that oh this is classified
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information they're going to they're going to use heavy caveats by saying what kind of confidence
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they have in it um and it's all reflective of the uh appeasement policies of the Biden administration
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uh they've launched a new detente program with uh communist china and they want to try and get
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along with the communist china they don't want to undermine this hated system over there uh that's
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really going to take over the world unless we stop them and they are on the march globally and they are
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going to take over the world and it will cost billions of lives if china succeeds in its mission the main
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obstacle to china taking over the world is the united states so they're doing everything they can to
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weaken and undermine the united states but this report is so critically important uh the intelligence
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bureaucrats uh again though i suspect that they will try to use a classification saying that oh we can't
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reveal what we know uh they know they have the goods on this they have the electronic intercepts which
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show uh where this money where these funds are going how they do it they do it through cutouts
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basically relatives wives uh offspring uh uncles aunts uh so they do it indirectly and that's the way
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they can say well this is uh this this five million dollars over here for this building that's uh
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that's owned by my my brother-in-law or my sister-in-law it's it's the classic case of how they do
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corruption over there is there any concern of yours and by the way we'll go to break in a couple of
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minutes i'll get dr thayer in on the other side to talk about the crs of it is there any concern of
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yours that one of the reasons because you just said it they're slow walking this they don't want to put
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this report out uh they certainly don't want to get out publicly they're going to put it behind if they
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even do it at all which they're having to be forced to do it now even though it's statutory
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uh that they will uh they'll be forced to do this and they'll use classification so that only a very
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few select group of people like the intelligence committees in the house and the senate can see it
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is it your concern that one of the reasons they are obviously uh blocking this the our
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intelligence community that when you see the wealth of the families of the chinese communist party
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you see how they've money laundered it into the west that you have to ask the question how much
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is flow how much has flowed through washington dc how many of our guys are actually on the payroll
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when you look where the cash went how much uh have the financial community in new york city on wall
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street benefited how much has the tech community i mean the hollywood if you look at all the institutions
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that every day carry the water for these dictators if you did this report you'd have to ask the
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question hey i know that the sources of funds are allowed by jing uh china and the chinese people
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but the uses of fund are not just to make them rich but to perpetuate their dictatorships do you think
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it's one of the reasons being slow walked uh clearly that's probably the case as as with the uh
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the covid cover-up you know they tried to cover up the u.s involvement in supporting gain-of-function
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research there's no question that the chinese have pumped billions of dollars into american
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politicians and businessmen to get their way done and this was all based on the uh disastrous
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engagement policy for 40 years for 40 years uh i i've covered this going back uh many many decades
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where they said china's not a threat just go ahead do business if we just trade with them if we just
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engage with them it will have uh the trade and finance will have a moderating effect and will
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lead to political reform it was an utter failure we've we've created a monster in communist china
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today where we the u.s has been successful in building up this enemy which is trying to take over
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the world and completely replace the free and open democratic system that has brought about the
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greatest prosperity in modern history and they're going to take that over unless we stop them um and
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war room.com for strategic intelligence bill gertz you've been doing this for many many decades uh now
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i think we're getting down to the to the to the good part to really expose the chinese communist party
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wan shi shan she the princelings all of it for what they've done to the chinese people and what
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they're using that cash that they've stolen to fund uh this really this chaos throughout the world
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how do people uh get to your podcast you got a podcast you're the columnist over the times
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you're the number one what i call china hand where do people go to get your content
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sure yeah i have a podcast called victory over communism that uh examines uh chinese communist
00:35:19.520
ideology and american marxist ideology and offers a counter proposal based on judeo-christian
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principles uh my website is the gertz file.com and uh this forthcoming dni report on chinese
00:35:34.040
corruption and hidden wealth is the most important report it will be a public report it's required in
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law uh congress needs to maintain pressure on the intelligence community uh even if required to cut
00:35:47.540
off funding until they produce this report because it will undermine the credibility and the and expose the
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utter corruption and uh despicable activities of the chinese communist party
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and maybe their fifth column here in the united states of america just saying i think this is why
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it's such a tough thing to get the intelligence community to do it bill gertz uh social media bill
00:36:12.120
gertz where they go uh at bill gertz i'm on all the platforms uh and uh i can tell you that this story
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has uh been attacked by the chinese uh uh trolls on there so you can tell when you're over the target
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you're uh taking flack so it's clear that this is a really important story that beijing is trying to
00:36:31.820
cover up bill gertz you're a hero patron hero thank you sir thank you dr thayer the crs report because
00:36:42.480
the links to it they have guys you know like mike foresight who was at bloomberg he's now over the new
00:36:47.480
york times so he was at bloomberg he specifically covered the princelings from beijing until bloomberg
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got rid of him why'd they get rid of him too many stories that talked about this hidden wealth first
00:36:59.580
off just pull the camera back why is this important for the congressional research service rubio people
00:37:04.220
to push it yourself why is it important who cares uh if the chinese uh communist emperors the new
00:37:11.060
emperors uh have all the money the emperors have had the money forever what's the big deal why should
00:37:16.360
anybody care about lao beijing getting ripped off sir because it shows the fundamental illegitimacy of
00:37:23.780
the chinese communist party uh it shows that that ideology that they advance is incoherent
00:37:30.240
uh and in essence they're just thugs and grifters uh who have no right no legitimacy to no uh
00:37:40.960
justification whatsoever to rule uh the great chinese people so the crs uh memorandum and the
00:37:50.040
report that bill gertz uh identified from the ic forthcoming a report uh is not going to be a silver
00:37:57.100
bullet but it's as close to a silver bullet uh that um uh we're going to have i think in the near term
00:38:03.240
in revealing for all audiences steve all global audiences right look at that and that's why it's
00:38:10.500
key that it's public to show the true nature of the chinese communist party so this is critically
00:38:18.660
important and bill gertz's story in the washington times on sunday uh on june 9th uh does a deep dive
00:38:26.560
really into the report and shows as uh the crs memo demonstrates that um media of course uh you've
00:38:36.140
had some heroic journalists like bill gertz you mentioned forsyth and some others uh who run into
00:38:43.340
big trouble from uh their employers of course because they're getting uh pressure obviously from
00:38:50.420
the ccp to media like hang on let's let's let's talk let's talk about foresight bloomberg and i say
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the best tv out there besides war room and real america's voice is bloomberg because they go around
00:39:03.160
the clock to the capital markets you see the news you have this you have what's up on the screen
00:39:07.160
they're a pure information provider for the bond market because the bond market dwarfs the stock market
00:39:12.740
and those terminals go across knowing understanding how the regime worked and particularly how the
00:39:20.220
regime uh took uh basically the wealth of the chinese people what they did with it because
00:39:26.960
it's not a normal capitalist society how they stole it and then how they redistribute it and where they
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redistributed to to get power you would think would be absolutely central to a business network like like
00:39:39.460
bloomberg how did bloomberg you can see maybe the new but how did something like bloomberg because if you
00:39:44.260
look at the crs memorandum there's tons of links to foresight's uh his reporting he got blown out for
00:39:51.260
doing too detailed reporting on the princings on this very topic how can the media justify
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letting a guy like that go well they can't justify it and and they shouldn't have done it but they want
00:40:04.800
access and the ccp's got rules and uh the uh the first commandment is you're not going to criticize
00:40:12.420
them and you're going to do what they say if you're going to have access uh to the people's republic of
00:40:18.780
china which so many which global media of course uh do uh but the the key factor here is uh steve
00:40:29.680
they've taken that wealth uh it's part of their political warfare strategy right this is uh the ccp's
00:40:36.480
tool to use a strategy to use against the united states the west and all of its enemies which is
00:40:44.260
to take the wealth that they're taking from the chinese people and from u.s and other investors
00:40:50.040
and then they're converting that wealth into direct political influence in the united states with media
00:40:57.960
with universities penn biden center of course the list is is uh obviously and sadly uh very long
00:41:06.200
so from the ccp's point of view that was a genius uh as long as they could get away with it but
00:41:13.360
again the reason why bill gertz is reporting is so important and the piece i did with paul berkowitz
00:41:19.820
uh and senator rubio and others on the hill is so important is because it's ending that it's showing
00:41:28.100
if you will what's behind the curtain and how these guys have gotten away with this uh for so long
00:41:35.960
and again fundamentally it reveals their illegitimacy right they should not be uh ruling china right they
00:41:44.680
should be in prison uh at best and they need to be evicted from power and the crs memo is so important
00:41:52.980
because it shows that again lifts up the curtain to show the true face of the regime despite all the
00:42:00.980
lies that they tell or about win-win diplomacy or or this that and the other thing uh it's all a lie
00:42:08.600
and it's all deception uh and at heart this is just as all communist governments are right just ruled by
00:42:16.600
thugs uh and dehumanizing uh political systems uh that are you know the center of evil in the modern
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world as ronald reagan said of the soviet union so the crs report is critical for that and let's hope
00:42:33.700
despite the suspicions that you have and bill gertz rightfully have of what the ic actually might
00:42:38.660
produce uh at least that's moving in the right direction we're finally taking some offensive steps
00:42:46.060
in political warfare right which is the key to defeat the ccp right we don't want to fight a kinetic
00:42:52.760
war with the people's republic of china we want to evict the ccp from power through political warfare
00:43:00.140
and this is a very important step long overdue but a very important step in that direction
00:43:06.860
uh dr thayer i want everybody to get your reporting on this and i want everybody to get to the crs report
00:43:16.280
and then to the links in the crs report i think this is very we gotta give the speed for the ic but
00:43:22.600
this is as you so so rightfully said we're it's it's first time really we're going on offense on the
00:43:29.560
political warfare side it's too many times that you know from the confucius institute to what's
00:43:34.620
happening on wall street uh it just seems overwhelming but we're going and there are victories out there
00:43:39.500
this is the number one thing i think your co-author paul berkowitz will say the number one thing they want
00:43:45.700
to hide is how wealthy they are in a communist system because it reinforces their illegitimacy
00:43:50.360
we can't overthrow the chinese communist party the united states can't overthrow the chinese
00:43:56.060
communist party only lao baijing only the people of china have to take in righteous indignation and do
00:44:01.880
it themselves we can clearly be here to support it's one of the things i know you've dedicated your
00:44:07.300
life to i've dedicated my life to is to take down the ccp um where do people go to get your writing
00:44:13.540
you and berkowitz also to get to the crs memo underneath all the links uh and also you and
00:44:19.660
captain finnell's book yeah and it shows they've got feet of clay uh steve the key point right if
00:44:25.320
you push against them and continue that they'll fall uh as all communist governments uh will uh i'm
00:44:32.320
at bradley thayer at getter and bradley thayer truth and brad thayer at x and jim finnell uh captain
00:44:37.300
james finnell and i wrote embracing communist china uh america's greatest strategic failure
00:44:42.820
uh where we develop a lot of these themes uh in uh in more detail and uh that's available wherever
00:44:49.460
you buy books and then while paul berkowitz and i did a piece on this uh with the sunday garden
00:44:55.360
sunday guardian uh in new delhi in india and folks can get that and i'll make sure all the links are
00:45:02.360
posted thank you steve no the sunday guardian piece was absolutely extraordinary what a great
00:45:09.120
paper that is so fantastic thank you very much sir dr bradley thayer um this is one of the ones we've
00:45:16.520
got to keep we've got to stop kidding ourselves about there is a reason that the intelligence
00:45:21.420
community did not uh did not it's not because they can't get to the information it's not because they
00:45:28.320
can't organize the information it's not because they can't present the information why is it taking
00:45:33.740
so long when it finally had to force it do codifying it to demand it from them because this is one of the
00:45:40.160
central things and once people understand this and once it permeates out into the to the media and to
00:45:45.720
society and culture people understand what what an what an what an evil apparatus this is and what
00:45:52.160
they've done to the chinese people this is kind of like in the french revolution the french revolution
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really didn't get going until they started to publish the balance sheet and income statement of
00:46:01.880
the uh of louis the uh 16th in the royal family and and all the aristocrats and what the crown had done
00:46:08.100
uh with their money and all of it wasn't put to good use like supporting the american revolution
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a lot of it was in building places like versailles and the french people had enough of it this is the
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00:46:50.940
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00:47:22.620
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