Bannon's War Room - June 21, 2024


WarRoom Battleground EP 560: The Lies Of Think Tanks, Pentagon, And The Deep State


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54 minutes

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9,762

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16

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Summary

In this episode of the late afternoon, early evening edition of U.S. War Room, we were honored to have Col. Douglas Mcgregor, a strategist, geopolitical strategist, strategist, strategists and strategists, come on the show to talk about what he sees as the most important threat to the United States in the 21st century.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:11.280 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:19.020 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
00:00:24.760 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:29.880 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:33.660 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:40.780 stephen k bannon it's friday 21 june year of alert 2024 thank you for being here for the uh for our
00:00:49.900 wrap-up hour in the late afternoon early evening edition of uh of war room we're very honored to
00:00:56.100 have ben harnwell's in rome and i'll join me here momentarily very honored to have colonel douglas
00:01:00.880 mcgregor not just one of the most brilliant i would say geopoliticians geopolitical thinkers strategists
00:01:06.500 but also and i think i can say this one the most controversial um colonel mcgregor first honored to
00:01:12.280 have you on here you've got uh um an organization that you're running now i want to get to in a
00:01:17.300 minute that american citizens and patriots can kind of join up but just your thinking uh you know we
00:01:23.300 keep saying we're in the early stage of the kinetic part of a third world war uh can you just
00:01:28.280 walk us through that you're toward the horizon what what you see out there as a strategist and
00:01:32.940 geopolitician of what's happening on the more national security you know conflict part of this
00:01:38.960 sir and where the united states stands in all of it well first of all i don't uh subscribe to the
00:01:45.480 notion that there is anything more important happening overseas than what's happening inside our country
00:01:51.120 right now the greatest threat that presents itself to us is what this government and what washington
00:01:57.200 is doing to us we would not now be embroiled in the war in eastern ukraine in any way shape or form if
00:02:05.160 we had any common sense and understood that russia is by no means a direct threat to the united states
00:02:11.520 it's responding to the threats that we've created against it and in the middle east i think any other
00:02:18.520 president uh frankly would have reigned in the israelis a long time ago and pointed out the
00:02:24.840 the limitations of their power and the critical path that they're on so my view is that what's most
00:02:30.200 important today are the open borders the unprotected borders the unrestricted admission to the united
00:02:36.840 states of everyone and anyone the destruction of the rule of law here at home the rising criminality
00:02:42.680 and the weaponization of immigration and virtually everything else the government can use against
00:02:50.200 us the american people we're the americans we're not hyphenated we're not part-time
00:02:56.040 and we are so-called americans first
00:02:59.160 you you've spent your career i would argue in the belly of the beast so you know this apparatus
00:03:07.680 how did it get like this how does a guy like you that's a patriot and and dedicate your life
00:03:12.600 to not just service but defense of your country defense of this republic end up at the at the you
00:03:19.120 know the end of your career and say that the the greatest threat hey i can look at i get you know
00:03:25.280 you got this thing in ukraine you got to sing in gaza you got this thing in the red sea you got this
00:03:29.120 taiwanese straits you know south china sea but the greatest threat is a government that's been
00:03:35.400 weaponized against the american people you're you're you've been an insider how did this happen
00:03:40.380 i think we have to go back to the aftermath of 1991 uh the victory in the desert storm created the
00:03:50.220 illusion of almost limitless power at the same time you had almost a restoration of conditions that
00:03:56.780 existed at the end of the second world war remember when we emerged from the second world war we were the
00:04:02.160 only country that was undamaged virtually everybody else was in ruins well it's not quite the same in
00:04:08.640 1991 or 92 but that certainly applies to a large extent to the soviet union and its satellite states
00:04:15.740 virtually everyone that had adopted the soviet model of economic and political development
00:04:21.720 so in 1992 we suddenly found ourselves on the world stage with no one that we thought could
00:04:28.580 challenge us and i would urge everyone to go online and read paul wolfowitz's memorandum that
00:04:35.700 he penned at the time which essentially outlines what we now call in retrospect the unipolar moment
00:04:41.940 and then advocates the use of american military power to do anything we want frankly to not just export
00:04:50.000 democracy at gunpoint but to gain control of the middle east to gain control of other parts of the world
00:04:56.440 that he judged and his friends judged as uh strategically important and we've been on that path ever since
00:05:02.660 i don't think there's any evidence that we've deviated from it so if you read his 1992 memo and then you move
00:05:08.800 forward to today i think you will see that we have a trail of destruction and ruin behind us and we've
00:05:15.960 also ruined ourselves we have squandered our wealth squandered our strength at the same time not just
00:05:23.460 exporting our manufacturing base but effectively destroying our military establishment along the way
00:05:29.700 because wars even small ones conflicts that are incessant always tax military establishments and
00:05:36.500 and ruin them and that's what's happened to us particularly in the last 21 22 years
00:05:41.640 you see you've you've got a new site our country what what's your new uh site is our country one
00:05:51.640 country what is no our country our choice yeah so what does that mean our country our choice you're
00:05:58.300 saying we we we have a choice as patriots to determine whether we continue down this path of
00:06:03.240 empire and trying to be a hegemon or that we go back to being a constitutional republic is that choice
00:06:08.160 no i think so i think so and i think the problem and i i'm sure you've witnessed this yourself
00:06:13.980 most americans and most most of the time are complacent i remember years ago when newt gingrich
00:06:20.560 caused the government to shut down and i watched this man on television i think he was on a bike
00:06:27.340 he had a case of beer strapped to the back he was riding in some major city in the united states
00:06:33.400 and he was stopped and the newsman said well what do you think about the government shutdown
00:06:37.120 does this affect you and he said well probably not i can as long as i can go out and get a case of beer
00:06:43.660 watch the game tonight uh and i'm secure in my apartment i can pay my bills uh you know i don't
00:06:50.380 really care and i think that's been the problem in the country for a very very long time americans have
00:06:56.280 no real interest in going to war with russia or china or iran or anybody else
00:07:01.140 they've been driven to these things by others who have an agenda the only american agenda i've ever
00:07:07.520 seen is peace and prosperity and i think that's that could be reconstituted as you say but it's
00:07:14.400 going to take a lot of effort now because we've done so much damage to ourselves but hang on you were
00:07:21.840 an army officer for how many years colonel 28 and how much that time did you work you were in the field
00:07:29.520 but you've you have worked at the pentagon and and and been inside or those agencies associated with
00:07:35.480 the pentagon yeah i was assigned to the war plans division of the army staff and the war plans
00:07:41.540 division is a very interesting place that's where marshall cultivated and effectively developed most of
00:07:48.980 the senior officers of the second world war they were under him there and then when he became chief
00:07:52.980 of staff of the army he continued to draw heavily on officers assigned there because he felt they had
00:07:58.360 some strategic background perhaps the most famous right off the top of my head is a way to meyer
00:08:03.700 and well i was i'll give a quick example of how important service in that particular division of the
00:08:10.280 army staff is in 1995 i think it was i guess it would have been the fall of 1994 excuse me
00:08:18.200 i was called in and summoned by my boss i was a lieutenant colonel at that time who'd just come out of
00:08:24.520 command in fort riley kansas and i was asked to put together a two-page paper that could be used as a
00:08:31.220 position paper for the chief of staff of the army regarding the balkans bosnia herzegovina
00:08:37.360 and so i said yes okay i'll sit down i put it together and effectively i outlined that we had no vital
00:08:44.680 strategic interests in the balkans we had no history in the balkans and it was effectively a european
00:08:50.860 matter and by the way the landlord in that part of the world for the last several hundred years has
00:08:56.100 been russia it would be unwise for the united states to meddle in that region and involve
00:09:01.700 ourselves in the yugoslav civil war on the side of someone that might provoke russia and i put this
00:09:09.280 together and i recommended that we stay out and certainly not commit to anything that would involve
00:09:13.600 the permanent stationing of u.s forces on the ground of the balkans everybody read it over all the
00:09:19.700 way up through two stars it was carried into the chief of staff of the army who at the time was
00:09:23.580 general gordon sullivan he thanked everyone said it was perfect he took it over and delivered it at
00:09:30.440 the white house you can see how much impact that had but here's the point i want to get to by the way
00:09:38.480 we went and warned the balkans and actually the united states forces bombed belgrade right uh the with
00:09:43.940 the the the christian nation over there as we fought on the side of the muslims but
00:09:47.740 here's my point at night and uh general west clark was the supreme commander at the time and i
00:09:56.620 witnessed that in real time on the satellite feed walk me through okay walk me through that you would
00:10:03.540 give it no no you had given a you had given a plan that said hey we have no interest no strategic
00:10:08.640 i mean this is only second to not having interest in ukraine from the great thinkers and strategists
00:10:14.740 of world war ii but but but but but how did it end up then brother you do a thing and the chief of
00:10:20.740 staff says i got it this is great let me go over to national security council go to the white house
00:10:24.840 and you end up in a in a situation room watching remote where we're bombing the christian nation of
00:10:30.960 serbia and belgrade and we're on fighting on the side of the muslims sir and for that and keep in mind
00:10:37.700 that's four years later because in the interim in 1995 i ended up being sent by then the chief of
00:10:48.180 strategy the j5 on the joint staff who happened to be lieutenant general west clark i was sent to
00:10:53.640 bosnia herzegovina to personally liaison with the croats and the bosniaks for him when he summoned me he
00:11:01.900 said douglas can you uh represent america's interests in in balkans i said well sir what are those
00:11:10.460 what's the position i'm supposed to represent well we are anti-serb we are pro bosniak and pro croat
00:11:17.820 i said sir is that the policy stance of the united states government he said yes it is
00:11:22.460 i said well sir if that's our policy yes i can i could be your liaison officer for some period of time
00:11:28.060 in sarajevo and he said very well i want to want to send you over there gave me a set of instructions
00:11:33.180 i ended up spending 30 days there riding around in an armored ford fairlane 500 that was driven by a
00:11:42.140 sergeant from the ranger regiment with whom i'd actually gone through winter ranger which was kind
00:11:46.780 of odd but the two of us had some very interesting adventures we were driving all over the place to look
00:11:52.700 at the terrain because subsequently general clark brought me back to the proximity talks at dayton
00:11:58.940 and i was supposed to help draw maps there and the purpose of going over there and seeing the terrain
00:12:03.340 was to draw maps for the final or at least the interim territorial solution between the bosnia acts
00:12:09.660 the muslims and the serbs in a way that would favor the bosnia acts because the bosnia acts had turned
00:12:15.020 out to be deplorably bad soldiers and needed all the help they could get so that's where i was and
00:12:20.700 what you're referring to now in kosovo that came along later i was sent over there in november
00:12:26.620 uh 1998 and again it was general wes clark who brought me over there to the joint operations
00:12:31.900 center where i was the director of essentially strategic planning and then became the director
00:12:37.660 of the joint operations center for the kosovo air campaign which lasted 78 days and i had about 240
00:12:45.660 uh officers from 19 nations on 24-hour shifts uh changing every every 12 hours and so i went through
00:12:54.700 that entire business and you know unfortunately steve it was my it was both my good fortune to have the
00:13:02.220 experience and see so much and learn so much but at the same time it was unfortunate for me because i
00:13:07.180 ended up executing orders that i did not necessarily think were in the interest of the american people in
00:13:12.780 fact i thought they were dumb ideas but i had no choice
00:13:20.060 let me the the men you men and women you serve with were dedicated to their country's defense
00:13:25.740 and good people and mostly come from either working class or middle class backgrounds
00:13:29.740 how do we this is my point how do we get to the place we are today
00:13:34.780 when at least i guess until recently with these feel great the woke nature of the military but when i was in
00:13:40.540 and you were in the really the best folks in the country had volunteered for this and they're
00:13:45.820 they were great people and everybody was working what they felt was in the best interest of the
00:13:51.740 defense of their nation so what happened what what what what went wrong and who was it that made it go
00:13:58.300 wrong i think you got again i i take you back to paul wolfowitz who is probably the architect
00:14:05.340 and he worked closely with richard pearl and bill crystal and a host of other people
00:14:11.180 whose principal aims were to pursue american military political financial economic hegemony in the
00:14:18.860 world i mean obviously they had a keen interest given their backgrounds and what happened in the
00:14:24.780 middle east particularly with israel but it was a global perspective and they managed to insert
00:14:31.100 themselves through a series of uh administrations they were there under clinton active uh involved
00:14:38.860 either outside or inside the administrations and then under george bush they effectively took over
00:14:43.900 i'm talking about w and we know what happened there we were we were launched into wars in the
00:14:50.220 middle east on the basis of 9 11. and this continued frankly even under obama these people were never
00:14:57.260 completely out of the picture they were always present and i would argue that now today they
00:15:02.300 and their sponsors control virtually everything in washington certainly all the so-called think tanks
00:15:07.660 although that's pretty much of an oxymoron if you know anything about what comes out of them
00:15:12.060 uh so you know that this is a long evolutionary process they've had a lot of patience
00:15:18.540 they've worked hard they're smart people and uh the average american didn't pay much attention
00:15:22.860 but but the track record let me just the track record of um the track record of this thought of
00:15:32.380 being a hegemon has been catastrophic i mean let's just go from night look first off in the balkans i
00:15:37.740 think that was catastrophic but let's just jump to the big ones after night the wars of choice in
00:15:43.180 both afghanistan and iran and i say in afghanistan after the elimination in the first 45 days of the
00:15:49.100 taliban or at least the major operating entity of the taliban the wars of choice in iraq and afghanistan
00:15:55.100 and now ukraine have been absolute unmitigated disasters there's been no we've had no victories
00:16:01.100 we've had nothing but i think it's nine trillion dollars in expense according to brown university's
00:16:07.420 center uh and you know you know what eight ten thousand dead uh fifty thousand casualties ptsd all
00:16:15.020 over the place and so so the the track record is horrific plus we've added now all this debt that
00:16:21.820 makes that the leading national security uh crisis of our country my biggest national security interest
00:16:27.340 is scott besant who could be probably the next secretary of treasury under trump says he thinks
00:16:32.860 the debt and the growing number of the debt in the in the trillion dollars in defense is actually a
00:16:36.780 national security issue so their track record's been absolutely abysmal not close how can they how
00:16:43.980 can people that think like this us as an empire hegemonic power continue to call the shots well
00:16:50.220 i think part of it is the decision that was taken primarily under w the second bush to pursue guns and
00:16:59.100 butter in other words there was no question of a trade-off there was no thinking in terms if we invest
00:17:05.180 this much money here then it comes at the expense of money over there the argument was no we can do
00:17:10.940 everything all we'll do is print money we'll just continue to borrow and everybody will come to us
00:17:15.660 because there's nowhere else for them to go now of course you know as well as i do if you look at
00:17:20.620 the 10-year treasury market these days we're buying up our own treasuries because nobody wants them
00:17:26.460 the only people that are interested in buying any treasuries are those who are interested in the two-year
00:17:30.860 investment which tells you something about the extraordinary lack of confidence and faith in the united
00:17:35.900 states government and its economy but i think that that contributed to it because i think these
00:17:42.380 people that you're discussing i mean we called them neocons they're now increasingly collectively
00:17:47.420 referred to as globalists you can call them anything you want but the bottom line is they figured out that
00:17:53.500 if you sedate the american public with lots of free money uh easy lives comfortable lives whatever
00:18:03.100 they want to purchase as consumers then it doesn't make any difference to them what you do remember
00:18:09.180 george bush's famous comment after we went into afghanistan and iraq he said
00:18:15.580 mr president was asked mr president should we prepare for war he said no
00:18:19.580 go to the mall shop that's worked so well because as long as americans can go to the mall and shop as
00:18:27.100 long as they can buy what they want then they're not going to pay much attention to what happens beyond
00:18:30.380 their borders because steve as you know and everybody knows this in washington most americans don't really
00:18:37.500 care what happens beyond their borders and they don't understand it our educational system doesn't
00:18:43.660 instill any understanding of the world much beyond where people live in this country we
00:18:47.580 we we are planet america as a spanish general staff officer once said to me and he's right we are
00:18:56.700 tell me talk to me about ukraine you could actually not agree with but see this push they
00:19:01.420 had in iraq and afghanistan after 9 11 but the ukraine war you mentioned the balkans and and the parts
00:19:08.460 you were going around is where world war one started um it was a place that we've always wanted to stay as
00:19:14.220 far away from as possible if you look at world war ii the great minds patten montgomery eisenhower
00:19:19.980 marshall not in a billion years so they have ever thought of getting tied up uh in places like the
00:19:25.740 ukraine which is worse than the balkans but over towards the more central asian part of the of the
00:19:32.460 boundaries of europe how did the united states get wrapped up into a ground war in ukraine sir
00:19:39.100 well first of all remember we have no national strategy per se whether you call it military
00:19:45.100 economic or otherwise most of what comes out of the pentagon is just boilerplate dribble
00:19:50.940 there is no systematic approach to the world that identifies those areas of vital strategic interest
00:19:57.580 and those areas where we have ports of importance oil coal minerals rare earths or anything else
00:20:04.860 in fact this is not a new problem steve during world war ii when marshall first started meeting
00:20:11.020 with the british imperial general staff he would show up with about eight or nine officers then the
00:20:17.180 british would march in and they had under their arms maps and papers systematically displaying everything
00:20:24.780 of any value in the world because the british at least had the idea that when the world or excuse me
00:20:30.700 when the war ended they knew where they wanted to be they wanted to be in control of the oil they
00:20:35.900 wanted to be in control of sea lanes they wanted to be in control of ports and airfields and minerals
00:20:41.580 and so forth we had no such plan so marshall shows up and the only man that had any serious general
00:20:48.540 staff college education was waitemeyer who had gone to the german general staff college and waitemeyer
00:20:54.140 was brought in because marshall trusted him and needed his help to plan the war
00:20:59.500 we've never really advanced much beyond that we we don't we don't have a general staff we don't
00:21:05.420 systematically look at anything because no one will make their minds up regarding what is important
00:21:10.460 instead we say we have unlimited resources we have limitless power we can do whatever we want and of
00:21:18.380 course that's nonsense and we're now broke we're very vulnerable we've got a fraction of the power that
00:21:24.380 we once had 30 years ago certainly after 1991 and we're largely isolated in the world people don't
00:21:31.020 want to follow us anymore the world is defecting to the so-called bricks uh you know led by moscow and
00:21:37.820 beijing the petrodollar is gone we just go down the list and you look at the armed forces they're they're
00:21:43.260 they're a mess to be blunt they're not prepared to fight anybody we have no assembly lines that can
00:21:49.260 rapidly produce missiles or shells or anything else it's it's deplorable the state that we're in right
00:21:56.220 now and the best the only thing that people in washington can can do is live in a state of
00:22:00.540 denial that they refuse to reconcile themselves to the world that exists because they want this
00:22:06.620 world that doesn't exist that they've lost that they've squandered so i think the easy way to say
00:22:13.100 this how did we get here well if you have no strategy everything is important or it's whatever
00:22:18.780 you say on a given day is important remember there was a time back in the early 1960s when everybody
00:22:24.540 said oh laos is a vital strategic interest to the united states absurd absolutely not there was a time
00:22:31.740 when we said it's vitally strategic to us that that vietnam remain a free liberal democratic republic well
00:22:38.860 first of all it never was and it hasn't and it's irrelevant so there's no truth there's no systematic
00:22:46.060 way to approach anything in this country we're we're just careening down the track coming off a peak
00:22:53.180 headed straight into a ravine and americans are enjoying themselves and as long as they can fill
00:22:59.020 their tanks with gas buy whatever they want they're not going to pay a lot of attention but when the food
00:23:04.060 stamps stop and the prosperity drops precipitously then i think there will be hell to pay in this
00:23:11.100 country
00:23:14.220 colonel you're you're obviously uh you know you're on tucker a lot uh the great tucker carlson president
00:23:19.660 trump takes your counsel and guidance given where we are in the summer of 2024 and we can't solve
00:23:28.060 everything immediately what would be your advice uh to president trump upon his return on the first 100
00:23:34.540 days just triage the the colonel mcgregor punch list that you think needs to happen just to get our arms
00:23:41.900 around where we are and begin the process of turning it around sir well the first thing is that president
00:23:50.140 trump needs to remember the advice or go back and look at the advice that dwight eisenhower gave jfk
00:23:56.940 right after the inauguration because president kennedy who at that point didn't like eisenhower very much
00:24:02.940 nevertheless went to him and he said well mr president uh general uh do you have any last advice
00:24:08.620 for me and eisenhower looked him looked him straight in the eye and said yes if you want to be a successful
00:24:15.900 president be a good butcher and of course jfk was a little stymie didn't understand what he meant
00:24:23.260 he said you've got to be prepared to get rid of people to eliminate people people will be disloyal
00:24:29.260 to you people will disobey your orders people who are incompetent and as soon as you've identified them
00:24:35.260 in the white house or anywhere in your administration you must immediately dispose of them if you don't
00:24:41.180 they will drag you down now you and i don't need to go back through what happened as a result of the bay of
00:24:46.460 pigs where kennedy got an education the hard way and subsequently went back to see eisenhower and
00:24:52.540 spent a lot of time with him saying god help us you were right i think when president but hang on
00:24:58.860 hang on hang on hang on hang on but hang on one of the things we do here is is history this is so
00:25:03.980 important because he gave him that advice on the early in the afternoon of the 20th of january of 1961
00:25:11.260 right after the inauguration the bay of pigs happened the bay of pigs was in the next 30 days
00:25:16.540 i mean it was february march wasn't it of 1961 yeah and uh so he was only in he was only in 30 days
00:25:24.140 he was only 30 only in 30 days before the cia and the pentagon sucked him into a essentially a trap
00:25:30.940 for a full invasion of cuba correct exactly no you you've perfectly articulated the problem
00:25:37.340 and i think that's what that sort of trap is being laid right now for president trump
00:25:42.780 and he needs to understand that if he goes in there the first thing he has to do is call a halt
00:25:47.580 to just about everything that's happening strategically and he has to be prepared to
00:25:51.740 immediately ask for people's papers to retire go away resign and he has to also decide to put people
00:25:58.380 in there that are loyal to him and believe in what he does then they may not come from ivy league
00:26:04.860 schools and colleges and they may not be products of service academies but as i've said before and i
00:26:10.540 i've said this while i was in his administration for the brief period that i was there you're better
00:26:15.260 off with those people because look at the disasters that all the so-called smart people have created over
00:26:21.100 the last 30 years and that at that point it was pretty obvious as you as you pointed out so you know
00:26:28.140 this is exactly the kind of thing that awaits president trump you know we've got colonel mcgregor
00:26:34.860 just hang on one second we're taking a short commercial break colonel douglas mcgregor his new uh
00:26:39.980 his new effort his new platform our country our choice a revered strategist a very high very highly
00:26:47.500 thought of president trump in the first administration will join us after a short commercial break
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00:32:14.700 women you gotta make your own choices colonel mcgregor to talk about the trap you see potentially for
00:32:19.420 president trump i want to go back in time back to kennedy uh jack kennedy is a young naval officer
00:32:24.780 as you know with the pt boat um you know had the situation in the solomon islands but saved his
00:32:29.900 men maybe not the best ship handling in the world um you know the argument that he may have
00:32:35.500 cut across a japanese destroyer and got cut into but regardless a hero to save his men
00:32:41.340 a patriot uh you think about it he steps in after eisenhower warns the nation about the
00:32:46.940 military industrial complex and hey what was ike's job he was only supreme allied commander
00:32:51.980 right the first head of the nato troops chief of state i mean all of it and so he warns us about
00:32:57.020 the military industrial complex kennedy comes in you got bay of pigs then you have khrushchev's
00:33:02.620 you know sensing weakness he braces him up in in uh in austria at that meeting you then have the
00:33:07.740 cuban missile crisis uh and it leads to eventually having to having to you know being the pentagon
00:33:13.740 everybody saying you got to take a stand somewhere because you've botched everything else you've
00:33:17.180 touched they decided on vietnam and uh and of course they come to him after a couple of years of
00:33:23.100 that not working out and they say you know we really got to get rid of diem the problem is you got
00:33:27.020 the catholics running the country it's a buddhist country that's our problem and after pushing him and
00:33:32.140 pushing him he agrees okay how are you going to do it well we got the military everything like
00:33:37.100 that it's going to be peaceful we're going to do a coup but they're going to take him to the airport
00:33:40.620 they're going to fly to thailand or wherever and live like kings the rest of their life it'd all be
00:33:44.700 good and that dramatic scene where they walk into the oval office and tell him oh by the way they were
00:33:50.300 assassinated in the back of a truck by essentially the mil of the cia and the military and all the blood
00:33:56.700 ran out of kennedy and he was a pretty smart savvy guy less than 30 days later he's assassinated
00:34:02.620 is that the type of trap do you see a parallel between the kennedy uh administration and what's
00:34:07.180 happening to president trump sir well i i think there's certainly the potential for it uh there
00:34:13.100 there are a lot of similarities you know jack kennedy was someone that loved the united states as you
00:34:18.140 point out he was a patriot he he wasn't really prepared intellectually or professionally for the
00:34:24.700 job he's a smart man but his experience as a senator from the state of massachusetts did not confer on him
00:34:32.540 the kind of attributes that he needed to be successful in other words you mentioned eisenhower
00:34:37.580 eisenhower knew virtually everyone in the international system and he was by no means a great general in fact if
00:34:43.980 you look at his conduct of the war it leaves a lot to be desired but eisenhower learned from what he
00:34:49.260 experienced he learned from the mistakes that he made and he carried those lessons with him into
00:34:53.900 the presidency and i think on the whole did a very very fine job i think kennedy had that problem and i
00:35:00.220 think donald trump is going to face something similar maybe worse because so much of the federal
00:35:05.180 bureaucracy is hostile to to president trump and his beliefs and his values and his attitudes
00:35:13.980 so you're saying the globalists have so run things for the last 30 or 40 years it's gonna
00:35:17.900 be tough to root them out so what go back because you were there you know trump what's the punch list
00:35:22.700 you would tell him that has to be done and if these things aren't done the rest of it's just going to be a
00:35:27.900 fiasco what are the two or three things that you believe he has to do in the first hundred days
00:35:33.340 to just not turn it around and not solve it because that's but just to get a handle on exactly how you
00:35:40.460 not not only make decisions but those decisions are promulgated down through the system well you
00:35:46.220 know from your own experience that a president is fortunate if he can achieve three or four major
00:35:52.300 changes while he's in office and most of the groundwork for that has to be established in the
00:35:57.740 first 30 to 60 days because by the end of the first year his administration has already begun to run
00:36:06.940 out of steam and this of course is assuming that he has a congress that's even remotely ready to
00:36:14.140 cooperate with him which may not be the case so the first thing he's got to do is something that you and
00:36:19.580 i talked about and and was not done when he first came into office i thought i'm sure you thought
00:36:25.900 everybody thought that he would tackle the border and illegal immigration and human trafficking and the
00:36:31.660 drugs and criminality all of it bound up together and instead he went after obamacare which shocked
00:36:38.860 the hell out of me i certainly never expected it but that's the first thing he's got to do he's got to
00:36:43.660 stop the bleeding that's what you do when you're trying to save lives well we're bleeding badly on the
00:36:49.180 southern border but it's not just the southern border all of our borders are literal waters everything
00:36:54.140 everything has to be secured i mean what the hell is the united states coast guard doing in the
00:36:59.100 south china sea i mean this is the sort of nonsense that has to end everybody wants to go everywhere
00:37:04.860 and do everything but nobody wants to defend the united states and the american people he's got to
00:37:09.260 fix that right up right up front so the border and immigration is number one probably ought to get rid of
00:37:15.020 the department of homeland security completely and uh probably establish uh the department of defense as
00:37:23.100 as the agency that should be responsible particularly the u.s army uh for the borders of the united
00:37:28.940 states and the navy as well with the coast guard we don't we don't need to have separations like
00:37:33.020 that anyway this is all nonsense from the past so the first thing is deal with the borders deal with
00:37:38.700 homeland security the second thing he's got to and that's going to entail the immediate commitment
00:37:43.660 of 40 50 60 000 troops just to the border and it doesn't end there because as soon as you close the
00:37:49.180 border and you're effective and you stop the flow of drugs through that and you stop it at sea and
00:37:55.420 coming in through the air you're going to end up with a war inside the united states because the
00:37:59.580 drug cartels aren't going to take it lying down so you're going to have to fight here at home
00:38:03.900 the second thing that has to be done is that we right now hang on hang on hang on hang on
00:38:10.620 hang on slow down before we do that are you also saying that you would at every level even in mexico
00:38:17.980 and clearly here in the united states and you would do i guess go over posse comitatus to have the
00:38:23.420 the army do it you would engage in a paramilitary or military conflict with the cartels not just cut
00:38:29.180 them off financially just not cut them off technologically but you would actually as enemy
00:38:34.060 combatants take on the cartels no you have to you have to listen to me carefully i said you secure
00:38:39.820 the border that's what you do you don't invade mexico you don't conduct expeditions into mexico my
00:38:47.660 point is that if you secure that border and you stop the criminality human trafficking the drugs
00:38:54.540 the cartels will not be happy and they will fight you inside of our country we have to be prepared
00:39:01.420 for that we're not prepared for that everyone who is in the law enforcement business will tell you that
00:39:06.940 the cartels are are penetrating all of our law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies
00:39:12.700 they know everything they want to know about us before we do it we've got a serious problem
00:39:16.540 inside the united states that has to be addressed and that's going to absorb a lot of time money
00:39:23.340 resources but if we don't do that we will lose our country we'll end up looking exactly like mexico
00:39:29.260 we'll have a facade of a government but it'll become an organized crime state so that's number one
00:39:35.740 number two is he's got to get involved and and deal with the problem of overhead in the military
00:39:41.420 and when i talk about the military i'm also talking about the intelligence agencies one of the things
00:39:47.980 that you have to get control of if you're going to have command as the chief executive of the united
00:39:54.220 states is what lenin called the organs of power the military the police the justice department the
00:40:01.020 intelligence agencies you've got to have your people in there you've got to clean those places out
00:40:06.540 now we've got 44 four-star generals for instance what the hell are they doing we have a force of
00:40:13.020 a little bit over 1.1 million strewn all over the world that's crazy and we have 44 four stars during
00:40:20.300 world war ii when we had 12.2 million men under arms at the height of that war we had seven four stars
00:40:28.940 now towards the end of the war the last six months we began promoting people to four and five stars but
00:40:33.980 those were honorifics i'm talking about operationally during the conduct of the war to win it we had
00:40:40.220 seven four stars for 12.2 million people now what are we doing with 44 for 1.1 million steve it's absurd
00:40:49.260 it's a banana republic and every four star thinks he's god's gift every four star thinks that his
00:40:55.020 headquarters deserves everything he can get everyone is out there building empires and trying to drag us
00:41:00.780 into crises and conflicts that they think will enhance them this whole global hegemonic structure
00:41:08.940 needs to come down it needs to come down very very quickly so he's got to get rid of most of those
00:41:14.460 slots and then put temporaries in there until we restructure the whole thing we've got to restructure
00:41:19.900 the regional unified commands the functional commands we have too many we need to consolidate we need to
00:41:24.780 become efficient as well as effective and we're not those things have to come next and we've also got
00:41:32.140 enormous numbers of people in the senior executive services civilians that get in there and they stay
00:41:37.500 for years and years and years you can't get rid of them uh it's a huge problem in in the department of
00:41:43.660 defense i i think all of these things have to be taken on and those are just the first two things now
00:41:50.460 what's the third thing for for the president his biggest challenge right now is something nobody is
00:41:56.700 willing to talk about publicly it's called national cohesion our country has lost its sense of itself
00:42:03.420 he's got to end this systematic denationalization of america destroying our past our history our
00:42:10.460 traditions our customs monuments you name it all of that has got to stop we have to end the denationalization
00:42:18.940 we have to forge a new cohesive society there are a lot of measures that have to be taken to do
00:42:25.100 that and part of part of it is economic but a large part of it is simply coming to terms with reality
00:42:31.340 that we've been dealing with people in charge of us who hate us hate our country hate everything
00:42:37.020 we represent it's got to stop
00:42:38.860 in in this um can you give me some specifics on this last this is quite fascinating that the
00:42:49.580 denationalization the uh the national cohesion what would be your recommendation what are the
00:42:54.540 first two or three things that even optically that uh president trump should do in his first
00:43:00.140 hundred days on this third item well you've got to get rid of this diversity inclusion equity nonsense
00:43:06.300 because all that does is drive division inside the armed forces and across the board you've got to
00:43:13.340 go back to a merit-based selection process you have to insist that character competence and intelligence be
00:43:20.300 rewarded put an end to this nonsense of you get to do something because you are of this gender you are of
00:43:28.140 this race you are of this ethnicity you are culturally this that's all got to go away we have to become
00:43:34.700 americans you have to restore this notion of being an american what is an american it's time for us to
00:43:40.780 redefine it we've got to redefine ourselves at home as well as in the world we are not made greater by
00:43:46.620 bombing hapless opponents overseas and meddling in other people's affairs it doesn't make us great
00:43:51.660 it weakens us that's how we've lost the leadership of the world nobody trusts us anymore so we've got to
00:43:56.940 get back to a a different view a different version of what we want uh america to be and that has to be
00:44:04.140 something that makes every american feel secure and comfortable that's not easy but it has to be based on
00:44:11.740 demonstrated merit if you're going to advance people you can't advance them for any other reason
00:44:17.020 the whole country was founded on the assumption that you can be whatever you resolve to be
00:44:22.380 do you believe that or not if you believe it then it has to be based on merit
00:44:31.180 colonel uh we we're limited with time and i want to make sure people understand our country our
00:44:36.060 choice walk us through of every all the opportunities you had i know people come to you for advice and
00:44:40.460 consulting and and media hits and all that but why did you why did you choose this what's in back of it
00:44:46.540 what's your inspiration and what are you trying to accomplish well i think the first point is that
00:44:52.220 i did not found this organization this organization was founded by a group of people who are very
00:44:57.820 worried about the country's societal cohesion worried that we will not survive that this experiment
00:45:04.860 called the great american republic could be destroyed for all of the reasons that you and i have been
00:45:10.060 discussing here today and they said we're going to found this organization try to get it across to
00:45:15.820 people that they do have a choice we're going to try and identify people across party lines who have
00:45:21.900 a commonality of interest based on specific issues can can everyone agree that child trafficking needs
00:45:28.860 to stop can everyone agree that the sexualization of our children needs to end can everyone agree that
00:45:34.620 our borders need to be protected that the rule of law needs to be re-established that anyone who commits
00:45:41.420 crimes has to be punished that judges who release criminals into the population deliberately should
00:45:47.820 be removed from office and end these lifetime appointments for judges these are the kinds of
00:45:53.180 things that we talk about should we stop intervening in other people's countries with the purpose of
00:45:58.380 transforming them into something they don't want to become yes we should so what do we want to do as
00:46:04.540 a nation those are the kinds of things that we're talking about now we do not endorse any any
00:46:10.780 candidate for office but we want people to come to us if they need a platform and they share those
00:46:17.580 views that i just outlined we don't care if they're republicans or democrats or independents we want to
00:46:22.300 help them and that's one of the reasons that we've been working hand in glove with one truth media which
00:46:27.900 is the parent company to build this platform called republic we want everybody to be able to get on that
00:46:33.980 thing and have the tools the ability to express their views share their views across the country without
00:46:40.460 censorship to take action to contact people in power as an individual or as groups and to share
00:46:47.420 information with the multitude of organizations that are out there that want to do good things
00:46:52.620 for the united states so i said fine i'm on i'll do everything i can and i've been doing the best that
00:46:58.940 i can to get people's attention and bring them in and i think this platform is going to unite us in ways
00:47:05.100 that i think we desperately need because what we really need right now to survive or something
00:47:11.260 similar to the committees of correspondence that we had during the american revolution but we we can't
00:47:18.540 bring everybody into a room we can't summon everyone to philadelphia for a for a declaration of
00:47:24.060 independence but we can unite across the country electronically in cyberspace and i think this
00:47:31.660 platform is a is a good way to do it and i i hope it'll be successful i think it will i think it's
00:47:37.660 going to revolutionize the way we do business but i don't claim to be an it expert you probably know
00:47:43.260 more about that than i do steve no no no i'm just so where do you want people to go and i want to know
00:47:49.420 about your social media any podcast books writing people want to know more about colonel mcgregor and
00:47:55.180 your thinking uh well my books are easily found you can put my name in colonel douglas mcgregor and
00:48:01.900 you'll find out what i've been writing in the essays that i publish i do write fairly regularly for the
00:48:07.260 american conservative but i do as you point out a lot of videos for our country our choice so if you go to
00:48:14.140 our country our choice dot com i think you're going to find a lot of information there that you will
00:48:19.340 like and i keep trying to tell people you know we want people that can come to an arrangement where
00:48:26.540 they can agree with each other 75 to 80 of the time and if they can do that let's forget those
00:48:32.460 things that divide us focus on those things that unite us then we can have an impact and numbers do
00:48:38.380 count people in washington though they are obviously very very very mindful of their donors washington
00:48:45.260 as donor-occupied territory they still do pay attention to numbers and if large numbers of
00:48:51.180 their constituents signal that they're unhappy and don't like what's happening or discontented with
00:48:56.860 the policies that they're supporting they will pay attention and it's our best hope to get change going
00:49:03.660 in this country without turning to more serious approaches and other instruments as you know
00:49:09.580 uh colonel mcgregor thank you for uh for ending a uh a big week for us here at the war room i
00:49:16.940 appreciate look forward to uh to getting you back on sir and we'll send everybody over to uh
00:49:21.820 our country our choice and have everybody check it out so thank you well god bless you steve and
00:49:27.340 best of luck to you and keep us informed we want to know where you are and make sure you're all right
00:49:33.180 so send up smoke signals that they won't let you talk burn the place down around you whatever
00:49:38.700 it's necessary but god damn it we want to be sure that you're all right i'm not kidding i'm deadly
00:49:43.900 serious yeah yeah no we're looking into it now colonel mcgregor thank you thank you so much our country
00:49:50.140 our choice mo and grace captain bannon and uh the team let's push that out let's get everybody on that
00:49:56.140 today and check it out colonel douglas mcgregor strategist geopolitician patriot um
00:50:01.820 big show tomorrow morning cash is going to be here in the house cash is going to uh
00:50:08.940 is going to um be with me for the entire time philip patrick so we got a lot going on tomorrow
00:50:15.020 also i think we're gonna have more jeff clark talk about the supreme court what's going on put
00:50:19.500 the unrelenting attacks on the supreme court we had in the first hour you see what's happening with
00:50:23.980 judge cannon uh you see what's happening with um some you know already some of these decisions and
00:50:29.660 next week just coming from the supreme court will be i think one of the biggest weeks in history
00:50:34.620 you've got uh you got fisher you've got uh which is j6 and trump you've got immunity which is trump
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