Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 568： The IRS Is Coming For MAGA

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.560 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:18.560 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:24.460 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:29.220 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:33.500 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:40.540 your host stephen k bannon you're in the war room on wednesday july 3rd in the year of our lord 2024

00:00:48.420 and what can only be described as a historic and quite busy week almost makes sense where they're

00:00:55.400 weaponizing the federal government not just to silence this show but to come after the war room

00:00:59.780 posse the maga movement writ large and frankly any american that dares to speak out against the ruling

00:01:05.660 class the regime i'm honored to be joined in this show for the first time by a true investigative

00:01:11.540 reporter someone who actually does the work believe me much to the dismay of the national security state

00:01:16.300 ken klippenstein formerly of the intercept you know has a wonderful sub stack i know the war room posse

00:01:22.160 might not be familiar with you but they're definitely familiar with your work you were behind

00:01:25.580 some really wonderful reporting that came to sort of the big tech collusion with the federal government

00:01:30.460 all kind of taking place at cissa dhs how they've been colluding to deprive us not just of our first

00:01:37.100 amendment rights but to really weaponize the federal government against people who dare to criticize

00:01:41.580 uh joe biden and his fellow apparatchiks but you have a wonderful story that i've been wanting to get

00:01:46.680 you on the show to discuss for a very long time that shows how this true weaponization i use that

00:01:52.080 word in its truest sense um has extended all the way down to the irs showing new documents that you

00:01:58.100 obtained uh that they are now going after again sort of a vague description but people who threaten

00:02:04.660 their quote ability to govern whatever the heck that means i'll let you just take a stab at it and sort of

00:02:11.080 walk the audience through this story and on the other side of it uh we can get into more detail

00:02:14.880 yeah so that language ability to govern appears in uh the irs manual which was changed in

00:02:23.420 december of last year and so that's kind of a vague term but one which doesn't appear in any of the

00:02:28.680 previous irs manuals that you know provides the basis upon which they can launch investigations what

00:02:34.000 they prioritize how they go about um conducting um you know the criminal investigations that they do

00:02:39.340 and so the question is so what does that mean another point in the irs official documents they

00:02:46.020 define um uh you know the the u.s government's ability to govern is you know collect taxes um you

00:02:53.560 know conduct policy so uh this could mean any number of things and i think that this is worth

00:02:58.920 looking at critically because when you look at the um reporting on the irs a lot of the discourse on it

00:03:04.000 is tax the rich so on and so forth you know which people have their views on but when it when it

00:03:09.020 comes to the um uh national security application on that that gets almost no coverage whatsoever

00:03:14.240 and so the question is how are they deploying that and i think that um the reason people should be

00:03:19.700 uh paying attention to this is because after 2020 uh two events in particular january 6th and then

00:03:26.700 also um the george floyd protests um you see the part of the federal government and the national

00:03:32.400 security community in particular really prioritize turning their attention inward away from

00:03:36.900 the traditional target they've had post 9 11 foreign terror groups like al-qaeda and isis and

00:03:42.780 looking at domestic groups so in 2021 uh shortly after i think the day after biden's inauguration he

00:03:48.240 announces the first ever um directing the intelligence community to produce its first ever domestic

00:03:53.400 terrorism uh national national strategy so this is a huge shift um you know uh uh comprising

00:04:01.560 the entirety of the intelligence community and one which i think has not gotten a whole

00:04:05.720 um a lot of the uh attention as we focus on ukraine we focus on the middle east i think this has kind

00:04:11.840 of fallen by the wayside and deserves more scrutiny speaking of this shift and reading the story you

00:04:18.040 can see you know words obviously matter to these people a lot and i think that's how you can kind

00:04:22.320 of discern where they're going with it we focused a lot on this show you know stochastic terrorism sort

00:04:28.420 of rebranding what the dhs the cia basically the intelligence community is focused on right it used to be

00:04:35.280 sort of external threats it seems like they're now focusing more so on domestic terrorism whatever

00:04:40.240 you want to to qualify that as but they sort of swapped out from what i understand the the purview of

00:04:46.880 narcotics and terrorism for the concept of quote national security so i'm curious from your perspective

00:04:53.740 in looking at that phrase you know going after people who quote threaten their ability to govern from

00:05:00.240 from your reporting and the documents that you've obtained focusing on the first part of that sentence

00:05:05.220 what does you know going after uh look like under the auspices of the irs what what are the abilities that

00:05:11.960 they have to go after americans well so they have an army of investigators called uh the same thing as

00:05:18.160 the fbi actually special agents and so um these are the guys that go out and they're uh the irs you know

00:05:24.360 people think of it as just you know they they're who you pay your taxes to but they're a member of

00:05:28.260 all kinds of different task forces involving you know the fbi um the department of online security

00:05:34.860 and in fact if you look at um uh how the irs has described its um purview in the context of uh budget

00:05:42.300 allocation they say we are not going to imping you know we pledge not to impinge on uh the fbi's um

00:05:48.500 uh collecting of um informants and sources so they're clearly de-conflicting and working closely

00:05:54.840 with um these other agencies uh you know a particularly strong example being um in in regards

00:06:00.600 to these uh counter narcotics efforts that have gone back a number of years but again we've seen

00:06:06.060 a realignment in terms of the um strategy and this is something that not just uh gets scant attention

00:06:11.900 the media and to some extent um you know obviously i wish the media did better in in this respect but

00:06:16.920 i'm a little bit sympathetic because they don't make it easy to report on these things you really

00:06:20.500 only get um hints like the kind that you mentioned at the beginning of this interview the change in

00:06:25.700 language uh in the in the operating manual mentioning um national security more mentioning

00:06:31.020 the uh government to the u.s washington's ability to govern and so you really have to read the tea

00:06:37.140 leaves because they're not forthcoming about what any of this means um and so uh to some extent

00:06:42.640 your guess is as good as mine but it has it has a huge um national security mission and component

00:06:47.820 that i don't think um should be should be overlooked when we when we when we think about this agency

00:06:52.200 which again people think of as just oh that's where i pay my taxes to i think there's an interesting

00:06:57.260 juxtaposition to be drawn to because back in 2022 when they were you know duking it out over the

00:07:02.220 inflation reduction act and all of that fiscal debate which we obviously obviously covered very

00:07:06.940 intensely uh here in the war room you know there were such strong demands for what was it nearly

00:07:12.260 a hundred billion dollars more for the irs to expand their budget to you know when you have a

00:07:18.260 congress that's campaigning and and campaigned on cutting not just federal spending but going

00:07:23.520 striking the heart of the beast going after uh government weaponization and then you see them

00:07:28.200 giving a hundred billion dollars to i think americans least favored agency i don't know if it pulls

00:07:32.180 better or worse than the mainstream media but the irs it's sort of an interesting thing because

00:07:36.480 they're not really making the case to the american people why they need right these additional funds

00:07:40.680 i'm just curious from your perspective how do you think that additional influx of cash again coming

00:07:46.320 from being being okayed by republicans who in the same breath are telling us that they're doing

00:07:50.660 everything to stop government weaponization do you think that is only continuing to embolden

00:07:55.100 these agencies like the irs like the fbi to be able to continue to go after the american people

00:08:00.320 yeah that's one of the most frustrating aspects of being a reporter who focuses on national security is how

00:08:05.600 much less candid they are in this domain than any other that i can even think of and then um you

00:08:12.780 know when you try to investigate these things how much you're stonewalled in terms of um you know

00:08:16.800 asking the public affairs people what's going on there is just a reflexive secrecy that is

00:08:21.500 characteristic i think of the entire uh national security community and very often i use that word

00:08:27.360 uh reflexively um to to mean they don't even think about it so there have been cases i've been doing

00:08:32.280 stories i'm trying to find out what the uh uh what say an intelligence agency is doing i find out

00:08:37.320 what it is it's not actually in some cases it's not even harmful it's just that they have this

00:08:41.640 regimented attitude of do not talk about these things um that you know i think it uh contributes

00:08:47.180 to the distrust and you know there's a lot of discourse about um concern about people's belief

00:08:53.160 in conspiracy theories well one way to combat that is to stop being so secretive about things so that

00:08:58.040 people don't have to create their own theories about what's going on just tell people what it is

00:09:02.280 doing disclose what it is uh what the purpose of this uh mission is because again all we have is

00:09:07.760 these uh few stray references and the i think sordid history of the um irs to use as a guidepost

00:09:14.600 and i mentioned some of the history uh in my story which people can find on um subsac i was i didn't

00:09:19.520 know this i was amazed to learn that since its inception um there have been cases of it being

00:09:23.960 deployed in a political fashion um first by uh franklin delano roosevelt against his um uh populist

00:09:30.800 firebrand opponent uh huey long um and then subsequent to that uh by richard nixon and then

00:09:36.340 you know by all kinds of administrations since then so there's a rich history of um shenanigans let's

00:09:42.940 say and so i think there's a reason for you know people to be skeptical about how this is being

00:09:47.360 deployed again as distinct from the collecting of revenue which is necessary for any government to do

00:09:53.240 and you know if you look at the polling around collecting revenue for corporations that tends to be

00:09:57.260 quite good so i understand that but this part has i mean i couldn't when i was researching for

00:10:01.720 the story i couldn't find any coverage of this whatsoever no they're their own worst enemies if

00:10:07.060 they actually wanted to curtail the spread of you know conspiracy theories disinformation whatever they

00:10:11.420 want to euphemistically refer to it as the way that they kind of launch these initiatives which are

00:10:16.460 concerning when you look at the words that they're using they certainly don't don't help themselves and

00:10:20.660 i'm sure you you know very well as do i it's not like you know they're holding press conferences

00:10:25.380 to announce these new initiatives these are files that are uploaded secretly that i don't even think

00:10:30.820 they actually know the links are public that you can only get by you know algorithmically manipulating

00:10:35.940 certain aspects of websites and then once you you've you know put up the story they're deleting the

00:10:40.800 files and then they don't talk about the committees anymore so it's it's an interesting it's an interesting

00:10:45.320 thing if you want to talk about you know how you do your reporting feel feel free to go off a little

00:10:49.920 bit and the press is kind enough not to use the stray references that i've been talking about

00:10:54.580 so that they don't have to worry about it that's much to my benefit very often i find them and i'm

00:10:58.720 like oh my gosh how did nobody find this before i can't believe this is just sitting there um because

00:11:03.160 the reality of um uh you know the way the federal government operates is it's such a huge system

00:11:08.620 with so many moving parts that you know i tend to actually be pretty bullish about the possibilities

00:11:13.320 of investigative reporting because of um the nature of this sprawling uh i think you were used the word

00:11:18.580 beast before it's really hard for them to control every aspect of it make sure that details don't

00:11:23.780 tumble out and so um for that reason you know i'm really hopeful about what you can find and try

00:11:28.720 to i mean you know you can't always find the degree of detail and um you know the the kind of

00:11:33.640 resolution that you want to to figure out exactly what they're doing but you can get a pretty good

00:11:36.960 rough idea um uh just by just by reading carefully government reports talking to people in the community

00:11:44.100 who've retired who will introduce you to people that are still inside um and you know just being

00:11:49.720 attentive to what uh records these agencies are producing as opposed to i think what much of the

00:11:55.580 rest of media relies on which is the other media and just it becomes an echo chamber where they're

00:12:00.300 just copying what other people said reliance on you know ngos that produce reports that are um you

00:12:06.580 know uh kind of pre-produced for you and you just sort of write it up that can be a way that uh media

00:12:11.920 which is you know losing a lot of revenue in recent years to try to um cut costs they've really

00:12:16.440 cut costs around this sort of investigation i'm talking about just doing the homework reading the

00:12:20.600 documents and so what that means is that they're not going to stop they still need to have stories so

00:12:26.160 then um they become more dependent on think tanks they become more dependent on advocacy organizations

00:12:30.660 they become more dependent on congress on the white house um on you know on both parties to provide them

00:12:37.060 with um the investigative work that they lack the time to do and the people that lose out i mean you

00:12:42.760 know the press gets to go home with a you know 900 word story that they didn't have to spend a lot

00:12:47.900 of time on the ngo and the think tank and congress gets to have a story put out that are is in their

00:12:53.300 interests the party that loses out is the american people because they end up getting um reporting that

00:12:58.500 is biased in favor of the uh interest group that provided it to the press so that's kind of uh generally

00:13:04.060 my modus operandi for um you know approaching reporting and uh i like to think that it served me pretty

00:13:09.580 well and it's really it's time consuming uh but i don't i don't think it's particularly hard you just

00:13:14.060 again have to have fidelity of the primary source documentation it's almost like i think of the

00:13:19.160 protestant revolution you want to read the holy text you don't want to rely on some guy who's going

00:13:23.460 to convey it to you you know so i always encourage people try to read the don't even listen to me

00:13:28.300 just go through and in my stories i try to link to everything so people can come to their own

00:13:32.280 conclusions and find the language that we've been talking about um in the in the irs operating manual and

00:13:38.440 decide for themselves and that's something that the media crucially does not do there's so much

00:13:42.320 paraphrasing that they do that i think um you know there's there's a loss of fidelity to the to the

00:13:48.840 source text when you do that i'm curious you are someone who like i said you don't come from the

00:13:54.900 typical maga world right of guests that we we have on this show so it's fun to have someone who i can

00:14:00.300 ask these questions to but from your perspective as someone who's probably a little closer to that kind

00:14:04.600 of mainstream media just just world right you understand you sort of come from it and your in

00:14:10.160 your opinion do you think you know for example right we play montages on the show all the time

00:14:14.840 of anchors and people on you know cnn msnbc but what seems to be regurgitating the same exact phrasing

00:14:21.800 the same exact talking points whether it's you know safe and effective or oh for a democracy right

00:14:26.740 these words that they don't they don't come out of nowhere from your perspective sort of drilling

00:14:31.160 down on what you were saying about how they're now getting these talking points these stories from

00:14:34.920 whether it's think tanks or ngos the white house you name it do you think that that's a result of

00:14:40.100 incompetence and these people just being you know lazy or is there something more not nefarious going on

00:14:46.340 but is this trickling down you know i'm inclined to think about the story that you broke about the

00:14:51.180 influence perception management office going up at the pentagon just a week after the ukraine invasion

00:14:56.160 happened right is there some level whether it's coming from the federal government or or whoever that

00:15:00.940 is sort of coordinating the messaging on these stories what's your take on it so i think the

00:15:06.340 problem you're describing is particularly acute when it comes to national security because the

00:15:10.840 federal government uniquely has a stranglehold on the flow of information about these agencies unless

00:15:16.180 you're willing to do the things that we were talking about before which is read these reports very

00:15:21.560 closely for a stray reference you know i have a wonderful editor who's been a national security reporter for

00:15:26.760 close to 50 years and so he helps me go over these things and because of his experience he's able to

00:15:31.840 notice kind of like um you know if a variable changes in the matrix and he says wait a second

00:15:36.800 that wasn't there last year what is this and then we try and we compare it go back and try to see if

00:15:41.040 there's any reference to that no that's new it's a change what does that mean when you start calling

00:15:44.460 people and asking them um either in the agencies or outside of the agencies there's so many consultants

00:15:49.440 that make wonderful sources because they are not um you know they're not vetted in the same fashion that

00:15:54.880 that uh current employees they don't have the same set of interest they're not worried if they get

00:15:58.240 fired for leaking um and so they'll they'll they can help point you in the right direction

00:16:01.960 for certain things but to answer your question you know is it nefarious um how much this stuff is being

00:16:06.940 directed i have to say i think a lot of it has um calcified into uh habit like i was saying before

00:16:13.440 there is a reflexive secrecy there is a reflexive process by which reporters rely on these um uh uh you

00:16:21.300 know pre kind of pre-written investigations by these ngos by these uh groups i'm sure the white

00:16:27.980 i mean there's no question the white house plant stories i mean so many of the stories you read in

00:16:31.820 cnn in politico and the new york times will have come from the national security council i know this

00:16:37.740 for a fact having lived in washington for a number of years being friends with many of the you know

00:16:41.740 national security reporters who i think you know i don't see this as a black and white thing i think

00:16:45.020 people can do good work and other times they can rely on parties that perhaps they shouldn't

00:16:49.440 the strong sense that i get in media is people either trying to do their best within a deeply

00:16:54.960 broken uh system other people are just outright corrupt and will um use things from parties that

00:17:01.660 are interested they either won't disclose that won't be honest about it um or they'll even obscure

00:17:06.840 it um so i mean it's kind of like anything else there's all kinds of different motives that

00:17:11.940 different people and different reporters have i mean i find good reporters that oh that's one of

00:17:16.140 the things i learned very quickly when i first became a reporter i'm thinking okay what are

00:17:19.420 the good sites what should i read and i realized okay well there are good and bad people at all

00:17:23.500 kinds of sites um representing all kinds of different political philosophies and there are

00:17:28.480 people within that there are people capable of both good and bad stories i certainly know that's true

00:17:32.300 for me as well i've had stories that i look at when i'm younger and think oh i could have done a lot

00:17:37.540 better with that so um i think it's complicated but uh for sure uh uh stories get planted um uh i think

00:17:44.800 with respect to national security again the problem is particularly severe because of how

00:17:49.760 much control they have over the information not just with the classification system but with the

00:17:54.200 culture that exists the culture of secrecy there was a book written i think 1970s a camera by the

00:17:58.900 author's name is called the cult of intelligence and kind of what he's describing is just the sense

00:18:03.320 indoctrinated and inculcated into folks um in that in that in that system um to you don't talk to

00:18:10.640 that you don't talk to people outside about these things and that and that becomes a uh and so it

00:18:15.860 gets to the point where i'm talking to somebody they're talking about something that's completely

00:18:18.540 unclassified there's no criminal sanctions for talking about it they're scared to even mention

00:18:21.920 it because they have just been driven had driven into their heads that you know if you talk about

00:18:26.880 this stuff you are a traitor and so that makes national and you know in the context of the um

00:18:33.600 leak prosecutions under the bush obama trump and um i think there was one of the biden administration

00:18:40.000 um that creates an atmosphere in which people don't want to talk and that just um magnifies

00:18:46.300 the problems we've been talking about it makes the press more reliant on the official organs

00:18:51.540 for information because they can't get that information from the uh unauthorized sources so

00:18:56.820 so many leaks you see are are um what's called authorized disclosures that's an actual term so

00:19:03.140 unauthorized disclosure refers to a um criminal leak of classified information but there is a

00:19:08.620 technical term called authorized disclosure you can actually look at the documents released under

00:19:12.980 foia showing that um the white house actually authorizes the release of secret information

00:19:18.900 um to certain reporters and this is not a conspiracy theory i encourage people to look that up that's a

00:19:22.840 real thing that's defined by um uh policy ken we'll definitely have to have you back going to drill

00:19:29.700 down into that ukraine story and i'd love to get your kind of vantage point on how the mainstream

00:19:34.720 media is spinning all the uh the joe biden debate aftermath and i'm sure there's some unauthorized

00:19:40.280 leaks going on there but ken in the meantime if people want to follow you get your substack read

00:19:45.360 it um support you where can they go to do all that um check out my substack kenklippenstein.substack.com

00:19:51.840 i think i'm pretty sure i'm the only one with a name anything like that so uh shout out to me there i try to respond

00:19:57.960 to any comments or questions that people have ken thank you so much for joining us thanks for having

00:20:04.940 me of course what an interesting interview we'll definitely have to have him back he really does

00:20:11.240 some great reporting just a wild story on the influence perception management office uh that

00:20:17.040 the pentagon established just less than a week after uh ukraine was invaded by russia to uh basically

00:20:23.400 spread propaganda spread and counter misinformation so i.e spread misinformation about what uh was going

00:20:29.340 on there another individual who has i'm sure been accused of spreading misinformation although i think

00:20:35.160 she maybe takes it the next level you guys are probably uh committing your own form of law fair as

00:20:40.560 the biden regime would spin it is of course the one and only tiffany justice um for moms for liberty who

00:20:45.460 comes on the show with some good news we don't try to just uh black pill you here in the war room

00:20:50.520 uh but i hear you guys have had a victory for what is it the the fifth time or something like that

00:20:55.880 in the federal and federal court when it comes to title nine so why don't you walk the audience

00:20:58.920 through that yes the biden administration and the department of education has been rebuked again by

00:21:04.260 another federal judge uh this is a win in the 10th circuit this is the moms for liberty case that was

00:21:09.180 brought by southeastern legal foundation and mountain state legal foundation with kansas alaska utah and

00:21:15.500 wyoming this is a great win this means that every kid in any public school no public schools can

00:21:21.400 implement these new title nine changes and we'll talk about what those are in a second um in kansas

00:21:25.880 alaska utah wyoming or the schools attended by the members of young america's foundation female

00:21:31.920 athletes united and moms for liberty members so uh now's the moment right now if you're listening

00:21:37.800 email your uh kids your friends send a text let people know go join moms for liberty by july 15th

00:21:43.960 your school will not be allowed to implement title nine changes this is no joke it's a really

00:21:48.620 interesting position that the judge took um you know we were looking for a nationwide preliminary

00:21:53.040 injunction moms for liberty is in 48 states with over 300 chapters and so we're really excited that

00:21:58.660 our chapter members and their kids are going to have protections here we wish this extended to every

00:22:03.620 kid in america and every school in america and if people sign up to be joined as moms for liberty members

00:22:08.620 we can make that a reality natalie i want to tell you what the judge said about this rule first of

00:22:13.860 all we know that the title nine regulations what the biden administration wanted to do ultimately

00:22:17.960 was redefine sex to include gender identity and sexual orientation what did that mean practically

00:22:23.260 that meant that you would have boys in your girls sports teams boys in your girls private spaces locker

00:22:29.060 rooms uh bathrooms and vice versa and then this idea of gender ideology and secrets being kept from

00:22:34.620 parents which is basically getting a rubber stamp from the government well this judge said no uh no no i'm

00:22:40.740 sorry uh miguel cardona and and president biden and and the doe you can't just uh redefine sex um this

00:22:48.460 is a rule that was made by congress the department of education uh lacks the congressional authority to

00:22:53.020 make this rule to change it the rule is contrary to law the judge also said that the rule violates the

00:22:58.200 constitution's spending clause that the rule violates the first amendment because it is impermissibly

00:23:02.740 vague and overbought and the rule violates the administrative procedure act because it is arbitrary and

00:23:07.900 capricious so this judge just basically laid down the law at natalie and um you know i think the

00:23:13.660 biden administration is getting worried uh there were some changes about some of the ways they're

00:23:17.940 talking about so-called gender affirming care and if we have time for that i'd love to tell you uh

00:23:22.480 why i think they're worried yeah no please drill drill down on that okay so um it's really interesting

00:23:29.600 four days ago the biden administration told the new york times that they oppose gender surgeries for

00:23:34.300 kids that was news to me because they have a man pretending to be a woman admiral levine who is the

00:23:39.340 assistant secretary of health and human services who um it goes by richard uh but really i'm sorry

00:23:44.780 goes by rachel but his real name is richard this is a man who had children uh as a father and then

00:23:51.080 transitioned uh supposedly later in life to be a woman he is on record as talking about how blessed he

00:23:56.120 feels to have been able to be a father and to have children before he became a woman or you know before

00:24:00.860 he started pretending to be a woman i'm very clear about this issue uh there are men and there are

00:24:05.260 women uh there are zero genders and infinite personalities and so this man adam admiral levine

00:24:11.960 um we found out that he had actually pushed to have age restrictions uh taken away from w path which

00:24:18.520 is this organization that kind of governs and gives recommendations regarding transgender health

00:24:23.240 admiral levine wanted age restrictions taken away um and so we found that information out through foia

00:24:28.720 now you have the biden administration telling the new york times they oppose gender surgeries for kids

00:24:33.460 we would like for that to be the case but then the white house said to 19th news which is funny 19th

00:24:39.840 news apparently they think they're speaking on behalf of women they're not um but they said that they

00:24:44.300 continue to support gender affirming care for minors like mental health care and respect the role of

00:24:49.100 parents families and doctors for these decisions now what we've seen is watchful waiting uh natalie in

00:24:54.740 europe we see that mental health care watching working with the child is what's best the best

00:24:59.640 approach when we're handling any issues of gender confusion in kids but again this has not been the

00:25:04.320 white house's position well uh four hours later uh the 19th news edited the article claiming that it

00:25:10.540 had been updated to clarify the nature of the white house's response that the white house still

00:25:14.800 opposes surgeries but now says we continue to support gender affirming care for minors which

00:25:19.280 represents a continuum of care so here's the deal what's the doe the doj what are they going to do

00:25:25.380 with these new title nine regulations again they've had five federal judges say no not happening in these

00:25:30.820 states not happening with these plaintiffs so they have a choice to make are they going to have are

00:25:34.920 they going to wait and not try to and put a stay and not try to implement these changes are they're

00:25:39.040 going to keep trying to shove gender ideology into all of our throats my message for the biden

00:25:44.140 administration is this um you're losing on this issue uh you are losing more americans every single

00:25:50.360 day truth is it's coming forward and and stopping the natural healthy development of children is wrong

00:25:55.900 this is a common sense thing that all americans know and understand so my advice to president

00:26:00.820 biden if he wants a chance of getting re-elected or kamala harris if she actually thinks that she's

00:26:05.340 going to become the president is you need to stop with the gender nonsense parents have had enough

00:26:09.640 you're going to lose the election because of it and i'm going to do everything we can at mom's

00:26:13.120 for liberty to make sure that that's the case we love it action action action tiffany if people

00:26:18.020 want to follow you uh support you guys how can they go and do all that go to moms for liberty.org

00:26:24.280 click to join as a member if you have kids in public school this means that your child will be

00:26:30.180 protected your public school will be barred from putting in title nine changes tiffany thank you so

00:26:37.020 much for joining us we'll definitely have you back more in posse stay tuned we got the one and only

00:26:41.700 mike benz for what is a can't miss interview coming up we'll be right back

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00:29:42.980 war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:29:46.140 welcome back to the war room i'm always honored and pleased to be joined by the one and only

00:29:54.400 mike benz now with today's news cycle frankly this last week i was like there are so many threads to

00:30:00.560 pull and i think mike benz could could pick and pull all of them probably we could do hours of content

00:30:05.940 um but we got you for 20 minutes so we got to cram it all in um i'd love to get your thoughts

00:30:12.300 particularly on the whole debacle that is you know is biden going to stay in the race is he going to

00:30:16.440 step down but particularly through the lens which you've been really hammering on twitter of kind of

00:30:21.340 the intelligence community's lack or silence on the matter why they're not weighing in how you think

00:30:27.340 it's going to play out i will just let i'll let you rip because you you do my job for me well i've got

00:30:33.220 my natalie winters pink on today actually it's a very whimsical there you go on wednesdays we wear pink

00:30:39.920 it's you know it's an incredible moment in american history to watch this all play out i mean i think

00:30:45.300 the top headline of this all is that the parasite is looking for a new host body you have this blob

00:30:52.180 class in the dc power structure this foreign policy establishment that spans our war industry our

00:30:59.120 instruments of statecraft and our intelligence community these are the keeper of our national

00:31:04.740 secrets and of our american empire and joe biden has been a faithful servant for over 40 years

00:31:12.540 to that blob class in fact if you go back and look at the contemporaneous headlines of joe biden running

00:31:20.000 for president uh the mainstream media referred to as his run for presidency in 2020 is the revenge of

00:31:25.680 the blob and what you see right now is i think this incredible moment of weakness of joe biden where

00:31:33.480 the you know whatever you want to call it the weekend at bernie's presidency the uh the sort of boris

00:31:39.420 yeltsin um you know old stumbling frail all of these uh all of these things which are hidden

00:31:46.140 essentially from mainstream access uh although we're very evident to anyone with eyes and ears who's paying

00:31:53.260 attention on places like x or rumble uh have now all broken open and it has put trump way ahead in

00:32:00.180 the polls even in extremely left-wing polls even in cnn you know they are reading these things where

00:32:07.720 trump is up six points and the general is up in all seven swing states by by huge margins and you're

00:32:15.200 seeing this collapse of the perceived uh the perceived victory potential of biden on the basis

00:32:21.720 of votes and so because of that you have this huge structure within the democrat party clamoring for a

00:32:28.040 new a new president a new presidential candidate because they perceive that biden will lose on the

00:32:34.500 basis of votes and what i've been pointing out all week is the very strange silence of the intelligence

00:32:40.460 community on an issue of grave concern you would think to national security that is the commander

00:32:48.040 in chief cannot keep his eyes open past 4 p.m and when it clock strikes about 9 or 10 p.m he turns into

00:32:55.040 effectively a total vegetable he's having to take afternoon naps um you know that that are only

00:33:01.400 really approximated by people in old age homes or or people below the grade of kindergarten and so because

00:33:08.320 of this you know national securities uh emergencies happen every week in some country somewhere there

00:33:16.160 are issues of grave concerns to the cia to the uh to the pentagon to the state department uh and to our

00:33:23.200 whole national security council interagency process that require the president to be cogent to make a decision

00:33:29.920 to either green light something or to veto it and joe biden who is dubbed mr foreign policy in his

00:33:38.160 rise to the presidency by the council on foreign relations who spent 40 years at the top of the

00:33:43.820 senate foreign relations committee so i mean his stretch in the senate foreign relations committee goes

00:33:48.800 so far back that he actually blocked jimmy carter's cia director nominee back in 1977 that's how far back

00:33:57.200 joe biden goes it with his role with the blob you know he of course uh became the senator at the age of

00:34:03.480 29 years old so he has had this long trust of of the blob he has had this favors for favors relationship

00:34:12.360 and he has been their man in washington he has been the perfect vassal host body for them for now

00:34:19.520 literally half of a century from from 29 until now 81 and the issue is is they need another host body

00:34:29.420 who is as pliant who will green light everything uh and the issue is is there not that many great

00:34:36.680 people in the democrat party to pick from the democrat party has a lot of of folks who are

00:34:41.600 focused on domestic priorities who are focused on things like dei and crt and and who are not as

00:34:48.260 or climate and who are simply not as well versed in the secrets of the american empire what we're doing

00:34:54.980 to seize eurasia from russia what we're doing with all of our interventions around the world

00:35:00.240 all the cloak and dagger work that the cia does now kamala harris was on the senate intelligence

00:35:06.220 committee and if you go to my x x feed at mike ben cyber you'll see near the top of it i posted

00:35:11.920 uh news articles that showed bipartisan report uh support from both the dnc and the gop wings of the

00:35:19.660 senate intelligence committee for kamala harris now she that of course the senate intelligence

00:35:24.640 committee is oversight of the cia but the fact is that she was very green she was like barack obama

00:35:30.060 who was a junior senator when he ran for president but us but between his own past with his own family's

00:35:36.860 strange relationships to cia cutouts like us aid and the ford foundation and others through his mother

00:35:42.600 uh and the diplomacy role of his father and things like this you have he was still very green he was only

00:35:49.600 you know a couple years into into congress when he ran for president and it's a very similar thing

00:35:54.680 with with kamala harris uh so i think that they if if harris is going to be the pick they're going to

00:36:00.800 need a biden-like figure to be the kind of shadow president as joe biden was for barack obama uh on all

00:36:08.300 things foreign policy for those eight years and the issue is is outside of hillary clinton it's hard to

00:36:14.220 think of anyone in the democrat party who really is as versed in the dark deep secrets of the american

00:36:21.600 empire i'm curious your thoughts on the reporting coming out that you know hunter biden is involved

00:36:29.560 in high-level white house meetings now do you think that that is something that has been you know going

00:36:34.580 on for a long time and the media is deciding to weaponize it now in the news cycle sort of against

00:36:39.880 him in this evolving weird civil war that you know either lead to biden's ouster or not or what do you

00:36:45.520 make of that i think it's absolutely fascinating i mean it has to be pointed out immediately that it

00:36:52.000 puts the lie to every statement we've been told in the press and by the presidency over the past four

00:36:58.480 years which was that joe biden does not talk to hunter biden about business and hunter biden does not

00:37:05.100 talk to joe biden about what he's doing as president and there's this chinese firewall shall

00:37:10.480 we say between the two never the twain shall meet hunter biden is off doing his own thing with cocaine

00:37:16.320 and prostitutes and foreign dealings and joe biden is off doing his own thing in the oval office and

00:37:21.600 then magically as soon as joe biden falters suddenly hunter biden is effectively acting as his proxy

00:37:27.800 teleporting into the west wing to directly participate in uh in essentially presidential

00:37:34.880 matters which should not be a surprise to anyone i think who's been following my work and reporting on

00:37:41.280 this matter because hunter biden is a figure who is cloaked in this uh intelligence and national

00:37:48.560 security in military world he of course was a you know uh military officer effectively in in the navy

00:37:55.720 and then he did you know these incredible suite of foreign dealings where he had the head of chinese

00:38:02.760 intelligence as his client he was involved in effectively bio labs with metabiota uh he was

00:38:09.960 involved in foreign dealings with mexico as as natalie you've covered through eplata and of course most

00:38:15.620 famously he was involved in burisma on the board of directors sitting right next to cofer black the 30-year

00:38:23.320 cia veteran in the directorate of operations there uh while the state department had an in-process

00:38:29.800 plan to kill russian gas pry it off of europe and build up ukraine's gas uh uh endogenous gas supply to

00:38:40.440 replace the russian gas using burisma and now when the state department declares that as a foreign policy

00:38:46.680 goal that activates the cia to do plausibly deniable work within the region to support that foreign policy

00:38:53.160 goal so you know that that to me is why hunter among many other things i mean i've listed hunter's

00:39:01.320 military roles and his his roles as sort of intermediating these foreign dealings which

00:39:06.200 touched the state department but then of course you have the fact that hunter biden was on the chairman's

00:39:10.840 advisory committee of the ndi the national democratic institute which is the dnc wing of the cia's top

00:39:18.760 cutout the national endowment for democracy which was effectively established in a letter from the cia

00:39:24.040 director under the reagan administration uh william colby uh to to get get back the powers the cia used

00:39:30.840 to have before the church committee hearings in the 1970s but by cloaking it at a national endowment

00:39:35.960 for democracy instead of having the cia do it directly and lo and behold hunter biden in the

00:39:41.320 midst of all these other intrigues that touch the the cia and state department and military worlds

00:39:47.240 ends up on the on the chairman's advisory committee of the cia's number one cutout so to see hunter biden

00:39:54.760 now uh in the west wing uh effectively acting as a proxy uh commander in chief is not surprising to me

00:40:03.000 because hunter biden is read into the secrets of the biden family as i just mentioned biden is the

00:40:09.640 has been the keeper of secrets for half a century for the cia and the state department and the u.s

00:40:14.600 military that knowledge was passed on to his son his son brokered these international business deals

00:40:20.120 that kicked up a percentage to the big man he was the he was the bag man for for uh for joe biden's

00:40:27.560 uh representation of the blob and so they need a trusted advisor in there to intermediate that and

00:40:35.080 i think that there are basically two forces within the white house that fit that one of them is hunter

00:40:39.080 biden the other one is a man named mike donilon who is uh who has been advising joe biden since 1981

00:40:46.920 so for you know basically 40 43 years mike donilon has been the effective political groomer of joe biden

00:40:56.360 now why is that important well mike donilon's brother is a guy named tom donilon tom donilon is

00:41:02.920 the chairman of the black rock investment institute he is the he is the guy who makes the determining

00:41:09.320 judgment on how black rock's 10 trillion dollars of assets under management get allocated so you have

00:41:17.320 and you put that together with the fact that joe biden only ran for president after he got the green

00:41:21.880 light from larry think at a meeting in january 19 at black rock headquarters and you basically have

00:41:27.720 biden as a black rock president uh who's simultaneously serving the interests of the blob within the u.s uh

00:41:36.360 the u.s pentagon intelligence and statecraft structure and there is that of course feedback

00:41:41.880 loop between the international business of black rock and the affairs of the cia the state department

00:41:47.320 the military to maximize the profits of those commercial forces speaking of the kind of

00:41:53.880 enmeshment not just of family members and foreign policy though i think that is too euphemistic a term

00:42:00.120 you picked up on some interesting developments going on at usa id specifically with samantha power

00:42:05.800 who as you rightfully note is kind of overseeing and help ushering in this invasion of our country

00:42:12.200 not just of illegal aliens but of you know new biden voters they know american people aren't

00:42:16.680 gonna although maybe if you look at his debate performance it makes sense right if you speak

00:42:20.520 english you're not gonna you're not gonna vote for him so that's maybe why they need uh illiterate

00:42:24.440 people who don't speak english um but her husband also recently got an appointment at the department

00:42:30.680 of homeland security to help kind of oversee immigration matters can you walk us through all that

00:42:35.880 yes so first it's important to understand that usaid is not a charity usaid is a cia front usaid was

00:42:44.520 created in 1961 because the cia the state department and the pentagon were all tripping over each other

00:42:51.080 about all the different money that they were funneling all the different resources all the different

00:42:56.040 arms and munitions that they were funding to political resistance groups to journalists on cia payroll

00:43:02.840 to academics being funded by the state department to paramilitary groups and so because you had

00:43:10.200 all these different agencies in the national security world all trying to provide logistical

00:43:15.240 aid for their own purposes they needed a central coordinating body to centralize that aid so that

00:43:21.160 it was all streamlined inefficient and so usaid was created in order to effectively serve as this

00:43:27.480 intermediary between the the overt and covert support needs of the u.s military the u.s state department

00:43:35.320 and the u.s intelligence community and there's a million examples of this that you can you can read

00:43:40.440 even in the past several years i mean famously in 2014 for example while joe biden was president

00:43:46.360 usaid created a in cuba a uh a a twitter knockoff app called zunzanio where they uh where usa gave

00:43:57.080 millions of dollars to a company to develop a literal twitter knockoff just copying its entire ui

00:44:03.880 but only for the people of cuba and in their own documents usa described how they were doing this in

00:44:09.560 order to get all of these people within cuba to start using this app and and using this social media

00:44:16.440 thing and then over time they would change the messaging and the algorithms of the app in order

00:44:23.000 to get them to revolt and overthrow their government by sending them messaging and by pushing messages

00:44:28.920 on social media that would psychologically influence them to overthrow their own government

00:44:33.640 and just a few years ago usa was then caught funding the uh the same summer unrest in in 2020 in cuba

00:44:43.080 where the usa literally put rap groups on their payroll in order to uh to write songs uh

00:44:50.920 instructing fellow cubans to take to the streets usa was busted for example in uh in colombia and

00:44:56.680 venezuela running uh fake aids clinics that uh that is setting up uh things that look like it was aid

00:45:05.080 for health clinics but actually running armed paramilitary and and guns through these uh aids clinics in

00:45:13.320 order to try to overthrow the government of venezuela and you can go country by country on virtually every

00:45:19.000 country on planet earth and this pattern repeats and repeats and repeats uh to the point where they're

00:45:24.440 now as of as of a few years ago actually getting kicked out of several countries because the gig is

00:45:29.880 up everyone knows what they are and again just to say this because this really should be emphasized

00:45:35.000 because usa was created in 1961 but for the first time ever joe biden when he became president he

00:45:41.640 elevated usa to a permanent seat on the national security council the national security council is that

00:45:47.880 very small uh sort of select elite group of national security institutions the pentagon the state department

00:45:55.960 the cia and usa aid was given a permanent seat right next to them that is how important they saw usa as

00:46:02.680 a cutout uh of these statecraft initiatives now why is this all important for the the 2024 election

00:46:09.320 usa is the primary entity responsible for our illegal immigration crisis

00:46:15.160 usa is the top funder of the constellation spiderweb of ngos that are importing illegal immigrants from

00:46:23.640 venezuela from panama from mexico from guatemala from honduras from el salvador we are emptying their

00:46:31.800 prisons and usa is putting them in is funding ngos to transport them directly from these foreign countries

00:46:40.280 prisons up through our southern border and those same ngos have a have a pattern in practice of

00:46:49.320 participating in ballot harvesting type activities or at least at least several of them do and so you have

00:46:54.680 this weird situation where us aid the cia front after the cia already was effectively responsible for

00:47:02.760 russiagate it was the january 6 2017 cia memo just uh basically calling the 2016 election

00:47:09.880 illegitimate because of russian interference that created the intelligence community consensus

00:47:14.760 that trump was a putin puppet and then you add the cia behind the ukraine impeachment in 2019 with

00:47:20.440 eric cia morella you had john brennan and that crew um all you know basically already clamoring for

00:47:27.560 trump's indictments and predicting his indictments um uh even as early as 2018 that trump would not

00:47:34.360 escape justice when he was done his term and lo and behold that's exactly what happened but now you have

00:47:39.400 this yes you at this uh cia front usa gets more funding annually and mike we're coming up against

00:47:45.080 the end of the show i know the audience gets very mad at me it's only when i interrupt you because

00:47:50.040 they say i've always been 20 minutes already i know i know you could blame steve stern we have to go to

00:47:57.560 him but we'll have you back we'll have you back i was told by production that apparently i don't smile as

00:48:03.480 much when i'm not in the palm beach studio so this is me smiling and laughing now but it's serious

00:48:09.160 times serious stuff mike ben's we're gonna have you back i promise this is not me cutting you off

00:48:18.680 i will have you back and i won't interrupt you if people want to follow you in the meantime where can

00:48:23.720 they go and support the foundation where can they go to do all that yes so at mike ben cyber on x that's

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00:48:42.360 we're prolific this episode is really going to anger the national security state and and i'm here for

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