WarRoom Battleground EP 579： Deception and Punishment： Face the Future with Steel
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In this episode of the Weekly Wisdom podcast, host Joseph Allen sits in for his guest, Stephen K. Bannon, who is serving a life sentence in prison for his opposition to Donald J. Trump's re-election to the US presidency.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon and some of the things that we're going to do but ai and that's ai little
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things simple two little simple letters but it's big if ultimately hundreds of millions of billions
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people get a high bandwidth interface to their digital tertiary self their ai self effectively
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and you know elon i love elon much the goal is to give people superpowers well it is a superpower
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you want to be right at the beginning of it for a little tech uh we think donald trump is actually
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the right choice the social problems that one will have in substituting humans for machines
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the cynical view would be this is just a classic arms race you know who masters those technologies
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will be the master of the world i'm gonna have a lot of friends who are probably pissed off at me
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for saying anything nice about um president trump bring this into a golden age like never seen before
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remember this china wants to do it japan wants to do it all of these countries want to do it
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if you look at some of the things that have been done and some of the things that we're going to do
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but ai needs tremendous tremendous literally twice the electricity that's available now in our country can
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you imagine at technology transformation it usually takes place in in the terms of s-curve and we are just
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now where we move into the exponential phase artificial intelligence but not only artificial intelligence
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but also the metaverse near space technologies and i could go on and on synthetic biology
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our life in 10 years from now will be completely different very much affected
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and who masters those technologies in some way will be the master of the world
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good evening it is friday july 26th in the year of our lord 2024 i am joe allen sitting in for stephen k
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bannon who is unjustly imprisoned as i speak if there's one thing that stephen bannon tried to cultivate in
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this audience it is both a very firm political stance coupled with an open mind the ability to hold two
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ideas in your head at the same time so on the one hand we know that the re-election of donald trump
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will be essential to closing our porous borders to ending the sorts of economic and justice department
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based warfare against conservatives to hopefully ending foreign wars and if all things come together
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to bring certain biomedical tyrants to justice on the other hand you've got the issue of technologists
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transhumanists who with their economic and techno wizardry have hypnotized trump for the moment with the
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gray gods of ai now in the short term it's clear the political objectives take precedence but it's
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going to be important to keep these long-term trends in mind many people have this bizarre misconception
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that transhumanism is essentially globalist or essentially left-wing but transhumanism absolutely has
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its nationalist and right-wing component such as peter thiel or mark andreason and increasingly elon musk
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most transhumanists are libertarian and for the most part libertarians are ridiculous dreamers but
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libertarians also believe in ending the fed and if there is one thing that we want to see in the war room
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get your free info kit on gold iras speaking of holding two ideas in your head at the same time
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in america i think it's very important that we prize liberty and civility in our politics but on the other
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hand there has to be justice and we are at a period in which many in the current prevailing regime are
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facing serious consequences for their action to discuss this in a realistic manner i'd like to
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bring in the former federal prosecutor t.j harker harker's work has been showing up lately at the
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american mind at blaze media and man's world among many others he has a fantastic sub stack
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and in a recent article on the post-constitutional order in the american mind harker has raised the
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hackles over at the libertarian cato institute tj welcome to the show i appreciate you coming
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and tell us a little bit about your article and tell us about this completely unhinged response
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from the cato institute yeah well thanks joe thanks for having me on so i think it's important for your
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listeners and your viewers to keep in mind uh there's really sort of one overarching question here
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which is uh is there still a a constitutional order when i say constitutional order i mean you
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know the thing that most americans have in mind this rules-based system that's deeply tied to our
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history and i on the right side of the political spectrum there's really sort of two there's one
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debate going on right now and that is there are two different positions on that debate the first is
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the constitutional order does not exist any longer it's dead and the other position is the constitutional
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order is on life support it is almost dead but not quite and we ought to try to save it and there's
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really nobody who's arguing that everything is well and good and so if you're if you're going to adapt
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the latter position which is the position of uh well i shouldn't speak for them but my sense of the
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claremont institute and the american mind and so forth then you might as well try to fight to
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restore it because you know that the people on the other side of the spectrum are not going to do
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anything to try to save the constitutional order in fact what they primarily try to do is undermine
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it subvert it for the purposes of advancing their power and one of the ways that they do that is
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this thing called lawfare which has many different forms you could you could sort of lay out a taxonomy
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of lawfare but the one that your listeners and viewers are most familiar with is the use of the
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criminal justice system to uh prosecute the regime's political enemies and uh so i'm happy to talk about
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that in detail or to go a little bit further into the cato institute issue you tell me well you know
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tj i'm actually really interested you know the the lines that the cato institute took umbrage with
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basically talking about how certain uncomfortable arrangements are going to have to be made to bring
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these people to heel i'm curious what their rationale was why are they so afraid of prosecuting or even
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disempowering certain elements in the leftist regime and uh what was your argument like what
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was the central thrust of the argument that they either misinterpreted uh or simply don't have the
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stomach to to accept yeah no that so the point that i was making that cato sort of freaked out about
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was this idea that people like jack smith and who's the federal prosecutor in charge of the two
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prosecutions of donald trump in florida and washington dc and district attorney fanny willis who's the
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da out of fulton county who's also prosecuting donald trump and others and then district attorney alvin
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bragg out of manhattan the the idea was that once we've accepted the idea that that uh the law can be
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used to get our political opponents then americans need to understand that the language of the statutes
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that are used itself is broad enough that almost any form of of legitimate and lawful conduct can be
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criminalized so in other words there's more than enough statutes on the federal books and in the
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state books to prosecute almost any american for almost any act and jack smith and fanny willis and
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da alvin bragg and others could easily be on the receiving end of this sort of political prosecution
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there are more than enough federal statutes one of which is a title 18 united states code section 242 and
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that's basically deprivation of civil rights under the color of law in other words if you use the
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law for the purposes of depriving somebody of a civil right like the right to free speech or the right to
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petition the government for the redress of grievances or the right to assemble then you yourself have
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committed a federal felony and jack smith and fanny willis and alvin bragg have arguably done this in
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fact i would go so far as to say that however strong or weak you think the arguments are against
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donald trump i happen to think that they're incredibly weak criminal prosecutions they
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never should have been brought in the first place and even five years ago they would not have been brought
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but however strong you think they are the argument that jack smith has violated title title 18 section
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242 is absolutely stronger and it doesn't matter whether or not you as a leftist think that that argument is
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strong the question is whether or not a jury in texas or tennessee would think that the argument is
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strong and because that's what we've done now we've set up forum selection and and forum shopping
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precedents that can be used against these prosecutors so when i wrote this article what i was saying is
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uncomfortable things need to be done and people like jack smith and fanny willis alvin bragg and others
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they need to see their licenses stripped in the same way that they've attempted to strip the law license and
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have successfully stripped the law license of former trump advisor john eastman they need to face
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potential prosecution uh just as donald trump has just as steve bannon has such just as peter navarro
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has and many others and there's an easy way to do this within the four corners of the letter of the law
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now cato freaked out about that because they don't like the taste of their own medicine they don't like
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the idea that they violated all the institutional norms and all the rules of law that otherwise had not
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been violated until they violated them and now they're concerned that the opposing side the
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political opposition will take power again next january and if that happens then we should see
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these types of prosecutions we should see in the case of lawyers this types of these types of disbarment
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from the practice of law and i suspect that some of these prosecutors have thought about that fact
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especially as these federal cases as i predicted in an american mind article a few months ago have started to
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implode and one of them was recently dismissed so if i was jack smith i would be wondering about what
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happens to me personally come february come january 22nd well you know tj after enough space cakes i
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suppose that any sound policy would seem dubious including uh the the policy of actually addressing
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the issues at hand rather than beating around the bush with a lot of happy talk uh you know speaking of
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prosecutors speaking of dubious policies i'd like to get your take on kamala harris i mean right now
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she seems to be the front runner for the democratic ticket she herself is a former prosecutor given her
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history in uh the the courts and given your your deep knowledge of the political situation as we have now
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what do you foresee as far as kamala harris is as both a candidate and you know god forbid uh president
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yeah yeah they will god forbid indeed so uh that's a very good question so kamala harris has an
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extensive background in prosecution i was a prosecutor for 11 years i tried some of the
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nation's biggest criminal cases in 2021 uh kamala harris doesn't have that experience but she has
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enough she was a a district attorney and then an elected district attorney for san francisco ironically
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she ran on a tough on crime uh campaign against her opponent this is about 15 years ago and she won
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in san francisco she later became the attorney general of the state of california then a senator
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and then of course the vice president and so we're in this unusual circumstance where kamala harris
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can plausibly argue that she's uh to the right on a on crime relative to donald trump now i don't
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personally think uh that's particularly relevant the states that are concerned about uh the overwhelming
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increase in crime vote for kamala harris anyway new york and so forth so so setting aside
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her so-called strong on crime stance kamala harris also knows absolutely unequivocally
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that what jack smith has done what alvin bragg and fanny willis have done is is clearly a violation of
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all established precedents and norms and let me give you an example of what i mean so you know we've all
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heard for the last several years that our quote democracy is under attack and the people who say that
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our democracy is under attack are always on the left and by now your viewers know that when they
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say our democracy what they mean is their power structure not their democracy because they don't
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care about earning your vote or persuading you they care simply about maintaining their power and so
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they've made these allegations about donald trump for two years since these criminal prosecutions
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began including the biden administration itself that donald trump represents an existential threat
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to our democracy we have seen that claim hundreds if not thousands of times on all the mainstream
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regime propaganda outlets for years now now in the course of these criminal prosecutions your viewers
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may have almost noticed something something that's so obvious that it's easy to overlook and that is
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that donald trump sat by while these federal agents working at the behest of of merrick garland and
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joe biden raided the home of donald trump and mar-a-lago they sat by donald trump allowed himself to be
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booked and then mugshot it in fulton county he sat through a trial a sham trial in new york city he did
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all these things because he didn't have the power to simply not do them and yet the left is claiming
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that he's the one who's an existential threat to our democracy you might wonder how is it the case
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that a man who's supposedly capable of overthrowing the united states of america and its government can't
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disobey a municipal court judge's order and yet donald trump has followed these orders almost to the
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letter of the law the point is that kamala harris knows this they know that that donald trump has
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exercised an incredible amount of restraint right that this entire time he has been out there on the
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campaign trail trying to persuade people while simultaneously filing motions making opening
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arguments making closing arguments cross-examining and direct examining which is filing motions appealing
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and so forth all because he's trying to persuade simultaneously the left is simply using the
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the institution of the rule of law and in particular the criminal justice system to hammer their
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political opponents with this lawfare kamala harris knows that she knows that this is a tool at her
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disposal she knows that by using the criminal justice system she can continue to keep down donald trump
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however i would point out that if you're going to play 5d chess at this point if you were going to
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put yourself in kamala harris's shoes you might actually you know play what i call a 5d chess move
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and consider dismissing the federal cases against donald trump now consider what would happen if
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she actually did that i hesitate even to mention this because i think it would be such to her benefit
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and i certainly don't want to benefit my enemies but but by doing so she could plausibly claim that
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she's unifying the country which we all know the left has no interest in doing she could also
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plausibly claim that she's trying to restore the rule of law which we know she would not be doing because
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they would definitely continue to use lawfare to undermine their political opponents after the january or
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the november election however she could distance herself from joe biden put pressure on merrick
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garland to dismiss these cases that jack smith has brought and then advance herself in the polls
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now you might wonder why would she do this well the reason is obvious as i predicted a few months ago
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the district court in florida dismissed the case against donald trump already now that's being appealed
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the cases are falling apart because as it turns out jack smith was not lawfully appointed he was not
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confirmed by the united states senate and so his prosecutions are illegitimate these cases are
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going down in flames as we speak not only that even if they were to result in a trial and then a
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conviction of donald trump what's the purpose from the regime's perspective they've already tried
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to hammer him enough it doesn't matter whether he's convicted any longer as evidenced by the
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conviction in the sit in the criminal case out of the state of new york so kamala harris could actually be
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smart enough if you give her more credit than maybe she's due to advance her interests by coming
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out and saying we ought to dismiss these cases against donald trump now uh that would be a turn
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of events that i don't expect to happen i don't think they're that that intelligent politically
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although i do think that uh they're dangerous and we can bet that no matter what happens whether
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she does that or not they're going to continue to use the criminal justice system and the civil
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justice system to prosecute their political battles specifically the ones that they know they can't win
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in the political arena but can win in the criminal or civil justice system tj harker i really appreciate
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your insights on this uh where can people find your work where what is your latest right now yeah my
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most recent is an article about the sort of narrative control and normie mental reality models i write for
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american pretty frequently i write for blaze media occasionally and i write for uh for man's world and other
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places um you can find me on amicus republic i should also be able to find me on tj harker.com
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which will simply redirect to amicus republic i that's latin for friend of the republic so do your
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best to find it uh beckoning normie's back to reality from two steps outside the overton window
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tj harker a dreamer to the end uh i really appreciate it sir thank you thank you joe
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all right so switching gears from as steve bannon would say from the less sublime to the sublime
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or the perverse if denver could just throw in that cold open on brain interfaces please
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we're not talking about implanted devices of the future i'm talking about wearable devices
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that are like fitbits for your brain it used to be that there was very little we could tell from
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eeg activity but already using consumer wearable devices these are headbands hats that have sensors
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that can pick up your brainwave activity earbuds headphones tiny tattoos that you can wear behind
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your ear we can pick up emotional states like are you happy or sad or angry we can pick up and decode
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faces that you're seeing in your mind simple shapes numbers your pin number to your bank account just
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imagine north korea in 20 years when everybody has to wear a biometric bracelet which constantly monitors
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your blood pressure your heart rate your brain activity 24 hours a day you listen to a speech on
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the radio by the great leader and they know what you actually feel you can clap your hands and smile
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but if you're angry they know you'll be in the gulag tomorrow morning
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all right on the concept of holding two ideas in your mind at the same time and thinking about some of
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the misconceptions that we've tried our best to dispel in the war room although it is an uphill battle
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i'd like to bring in tim hinchliff from the sociable to talk about brain computer interfaces
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their importance and the importance of cognitive liberty and neuro rights tim hinchliff how are you
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sir doing great joe it's great to be back thanks so you know something that i've fought against as
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best i can to the point that i think that mr harari owes me a sack of gold is the what i would call
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uval uh uval derangement syndrome sort of like trump derangement syndrome you know harari is a very
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unlikable little guy he kind of resembles uh maybe a golem or something like that and he's extremely
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cynical he's his atheism is through the charts even richard dawkins would have a hard time being as
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unlikable to christians as uval harari and yet at the same time despite his high profile at places like
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the world economic forum who have a reputation for a kind of globalized version of transhumanism
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harari's message consistently has been that the risks of brain computer interfaces whether they be
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non-invasive brain computer interfaces or neuro devices such as wearables uh or actual implanted
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devices that these may or probably have more risks more detriments than benefits and the same
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could go for nita farani who we heard there uh you know her book the battle for your brain
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is really a rallying cry around cognitive liberty and neuro rights and yes she is also featured
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prominently at the world economic forum and yet basically people like farani people like harari are
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talking people like elon musk people like people like peter thiel are doing i'd like to get your take
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first like where are we at on brain computer interfaces and how do you personally see this
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in relationship to concepts like globalism nationalism left-wing right-wing politics all of that
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yeah well we're at with brain computer interfaces just like dr nita farahani said there that was at
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the 2023 world economic forum annual meeting um is that we've already got the technology in the the
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non-invasive um uh bci's brain computer interfaces so these are just like a fitbit um ear pods uh that
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can pick up brain waves and even smart tattoos and and uh there's other companies that are looking into
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and in the intelligence agencies as well uh wearable like on your clothes like smart clothes interweave
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with mesh that can pick up signals um all around uh so there's that that non-invasive one the invasive one
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where we're looking at uh like elon musk's neural link or how peter thiel has invested in blackrock
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neurotech uh which they're going after directly into the brain touching it neural mesh um and uh trying
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to restore limb and um other mobility issues in handicapped patients uh disabled patients but so yeah
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the technology is there and what you say about you know uh no you've all no harari and uh dr nita farahani
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i'm grateful uh that they're they are putting the information out and they do warn about well i
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believe it's warning they say they talk about all the detriments to it um but why the a group like the
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world economic forum gives them platform it seems more like i can look at two ways like how they want
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to show the world that hey look we care we care about ethics or at the same time it's like oh my
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goodness look at all the possibilities we can do you know and so i see that kind of dichotomy there
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um but uh like harari hasn't been seen i don't think at the world economic forum for since 2020
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there was lots of things going around saying that he's a top advisor to klaus schwab and things i don't
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really go for that so i'm just grateful that they're putting the information out there and uh instead
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of just hoarding it in some kind of secretive document or basement somewhere yeah and we all know
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there's plenty of those just unfortunately they're very difficult to get a hold of and if you put them
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out there you get snowdened you get assanged uh it's a very tough landscape out there um you know tim and
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we only have just a few moments on this side i'd like to hold you over to the next side but real
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quickly you've been working on a lot of stuff on rand corporation what just to tee up the next segment
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what are you seeing in their recent statements in the recent documents well they're moving from
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in the transhumanism uh phase they're moving from the internet of things to the internet of bodies
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to the internet of brains so this is uh just think of iot devices that are all communicating with each
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other and then that goes on to the body in your clothes on your skin but then the next phase is
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brain-to-brain communication and then that's uh brain-to-brain uh uploads downloads uh shared
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thoughts uh and a whole different means of communication you know as long as people are
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going to carry smartphones and if people are going to be so foolish as to get implants in their heads
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they need faraday bags go to silent.com slash bannon you can get your faraday bag to block all
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geo-tracking on your phone and if silent is willing maybe they'll make faraday bags for your head
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of race robots and religion now uh tim henchliff you have done so much to broaden my own scope your
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work at the sociable and your various interviews your interview with russell brand your interviews
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on tnt radio have really widened my perspective on all of these technologies and i think your open-minded
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approach is invaluable uh to this discussion you've been spending a lot of time on rand corporations
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recent uh public documents basically uh declarations of uh policy proposals uh what are you seeing right
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now especially in regard to mimetic warfare psychological warfare uh or any other items of interest
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well on the mimetic warfare front yeah they see rand uh this was a pentagon sponsored rand report that
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came out just uh i believe it was last week um and what they're worried about is uh cyber attacks well
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anything that threatens the u.s financial system and so they looked at cyber attacks they looked at um
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uh foreign uh companies or foreign nation all the seven trillion dollars of debt that foreign
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nations have that's uh dumping that and so that uh that causes a collapse but the one that i focused on
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uh was uh was memes because i couldn't i mean i know the power of memes but it's just funny that it
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was a that the you know the u.s department of defense is worried about that for the financial system
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and so what they actually talk about are coordinated mimetic engineering attacks is what they call them
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and they to bring that could bring down trust in institutions and so they say that they tap into
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tribalism these memes they trap they tap into cognitive biases and they can influence and manipulate behaviors
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but that's exactly the modus operandi of a lot of these institutions in and of themselves they do the
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same thing governments do this corporations do this um it was even in the same report they likened
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uh this mimetic warfare these mimetic engineering attacks to uh climate change and 9-11
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so they say that um an attack uh these memes it might not have a 9-11 boom uh kind of effect on uh
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financial systems the economy but more like a slow burn like climate change so they use these already
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politically and emotionally charged uh narratives that are tribalistic um uh in their own report about
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how bad it is to to be that way so they're they're kind of contradicting themselves in my own opinion
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you know self-interest and objectivity are very uncomfortable bedfellows you know many depending
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it doesn't really even matter what your perspective is on 9-11 climate change covid it would be really
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disingenuous not to argue that 9-11 and the war on terror began with and was basically predicated on
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mimetic warfare that uh the meme of the terrorist and the meme of the necessity of u.s empire drove it
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and drove support for it same for covid and also same for climate change even if you believe these
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things are existential risks you have to at least agree that the the side that wants to address these
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and take power in order to address these is engaging in mimetic warfare
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yeah i mean that's uh it's because what are these memes they're they're this meta warfare it's
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basically uh narratives they're shaping narratives so i mean that's the world economic forum came out a
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few years as their sequel to the great reset the great narrative um and this was in order to uh change
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people's behaviors and uh thoughts and to steer them and nudge them in a certain direction this is how
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policies get nudged so i mean this is um and they even say that these guys so with memes and narratives
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is that you don't have to actually look at real data because what they're going after is emotion so uh
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you know uh they've been the wef has been putting out reports for years i've reported on these ones of
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how yeah uh narratives shape our decision making and the best uh narratives they don't have to have any data
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um if you look into the post-modernism the whole thing what they they call a grand narrative um
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it was a francois leotard who came up with that one that um grand narratives are just used by
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authoritarians to uh further their own power and so they have no real meaning um but they do they
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definitely influence uh behaviors and uh it can be a small micro level or a huge macro level affecting
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the whole planet you know i try not to go totally crazy on the futurist projections but we already see
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this massive shift from the smartphone really taking hold of people's psyche and to imagine a world in
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which that's paired with non-invasive brain computer interfaces that are able to detect emotion
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and detect receptivity and then of course the concept that elon musk's neural link would in fact be
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deployed uh at a hundred million or a billion different heads as the the goal uh you know the
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the possibilities for mimetic warfare at that point have entered into something like uh kurt bonnegut's
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novel sirens of titan with all of the the the martians having their heads implanted with antennas
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but you know real quick as we're going out just let me uh give it give us an idea of where you see this
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going uh not necessarily politically but culturally as more and more right-wing transhumanists or tech
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accelerationists come forward in support of trump i would say to be cautious uh be aware because no
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matter what um government bureaucrats and uh most all silicon valley they're left-leaning and they're all
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in on transhumanism the government agencies defense departments intelligence agencies are all in on it
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the trump vance teal uh connections especially and musk with their backgrounds in uh working with
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defense departments intelligence agencies being backed by the cia in palantir's case through incutel
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is just to uh the whole transhumanist movement is going to keep moving on it's going to keep
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accelerating and no matter to me it's whoever is in power is you got to look out for that and then
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also with trump um when he's if he surrounds himself with people and is influenced by them i just look at
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fauci burks bar Pompeo um and and getting rid of comey and getting ray in there for the fbi it's just
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who's chirping in the ear who's going to make some policies or who's going to like plant the seed for
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this to go even further because it's a lot the silicon valley connection with the defense departments
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and intelligence agencies and they all want to get out on that brain computer interface stuff so
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i'd say watch out for that tim thank you very much for your insights today sir where can people find
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you thanks uh they can find me at uh the website sociable.co and on x twitter that's uh at tim
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hinchliff and at the sociable always ahead of the curve sir so far ahead of the curve that your
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stuff gets ripped off uh like uh like uh cheap cigars in a 7-eleven uh that's all for my segment
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