Bannon's War Room


WarRoom Battleground EP 586： Anarchy in the UK — Created By Elites, For the Benefit of Elites


Episode Stats

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

The Justice Department has ruled that Google is in violation of American antitrust law. To talk more about this, Josh Hammer of Newsweek joins me to talk about what happened in the courtroom and what this means for the future of the internet and the American public consciousness.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:11.360 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:18.360 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
00:00:24.260 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:29.000 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the
00:00:33.440 fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your
00:00:40.460 host Stephen K Bannon good evening it is Tuesday August 6th in the year of our Lord 2024 I am Joe
00:00:50.860 Allen sitting in for Stephen K Bannon who sits unjustly in prison we talk a lot about technology
00:00:57.600 technology and the rise of a technological society one of the greatest concerns that we have looking
00:01:04.200 forward is that you would end up with a single or a single megacorp or a a small cabal of megacorps
00:01:13.760 controlling everything that you see everything that you think all of the information that gets you
00:01:20.500 through your day funneled through a single entity Google for the longest time seemed like the prime
00:01:28.300 candidate for the ultimate the ultimate monopolist as of yesterday though it appears that Google has a
00:01:37.320 tremendous challenge with the federal government the Justice Department has ruled that Google was in
00:01:46.760 violation of American antitrust law to talk more about this we're going to bring in Josh Hammer of
00:01:53.380 Newsweek Josh Hammer in his podcast series America on trial with Josh Hammer has gone into detail about this
00:02:02.920 and he's here to tell us about what happened in the courtroom and what this means for the future of
00:02:09.240 American the American internet and the American public consciousness Josh Hammer welcome thank you very much
00:02:16.580 for coming it's great to be with you thanks for having me so tell us about the trial and tell us about
00:02:23.040 what led up to it we know that this began under Trump's administration it ramped up under Biden's
00:02:30.180 what happened in the courtroom and what does Google face insofar as penalties
00:02:36.160 yeah so this has been a years-long legal proceeding that that finally came to it to a hilt yesterday in the
00:02:44.440 courtroom of Judge Amit Mehta who is a Barack Obama nominee is actually a Democratic nominee to the
00:02:50.200 federal bench there in Washington DC but as you just noted this actually began all the way back under
00:02:55.400 then Attorney General Bill Barr and Bill Barr's Assistant Attorney General for antitrust at the time
00:03:01.140 was Macon Delrahim so they were really kind of the two brainchilds who actually got this federal DOJ
00:03:05.900 lawsuit started way back in 2020 four years ago or so you know credit to the Biden I don't say this very often
00:03:13.600 frankly but you know credit to the Biden administration credit specifically to Jonathan Cantor who is the current
00:03:18.600 Assistant AG for antitrust he replaced Macon Delrahim credit to them for keeping this lawsuit going that's actually
00:03:25.220 somewhat unusual to have a high-profile lawsuit of this nature continue across different partisan administrations but it really
00:03:32.280 speaks I think to how non-partisan frankly and really if I can just elaborate how quintessentially American
00:03:38.360 actually the case over Google as a monopolist is you know simultaneously to this DOJ lawsuit you actually
00:03:45.180 have a concurrent lawsuit from the states if I'm not mistaken literally all 50 state attorneys general have
00:03:51.120 actually signed on to this antitrust suit against Google so as you just alluded to Google has been
00:03:56.940 fairly out in the open about as clear and obvious as a monopoly as a monopoly can possibly be to many of us
00:04:02.740 so this trial started and it finally reached its conclusion in this 286 page ruling from Judge Mehta yesterday
00:04:09.560 in Washington DC holding that under section 2 of the Sherman Act and the Sherman Act is America's foundational
00:04:15.400 statute in antitrust law it's a Sherman Act and the Clayton Act which followed 15-20 years or so after that
00:04:21.840 we're talking here about the the age of the robber barons you know the term of the 20th century the
00:04:26.360 Sherman Act was really put into place as the foundational antitrust statute section 2 has to
00:04:31.260 do with illegal monopolization and the court holds that under section 2 of the Sherman Act that Google's
00:04:36.540 basic search function as well as its general text advertising its advertising function they are both
00:04:42.480 natural monopolies and the judge has a bevy of facts as you would imagine in a 286 page ruling this this is
00:04:49.740 no slouch of a judicial opinion who must have you know as a former federal law clerk myself I can only
00:04:55.060 imagine how long it took for clerks to draft this thing the judge to kind of go through with it with
00:04:59.160 a fine-toothed comb but the upshot here is that Google has a 90 percent market share give or take
00:05:06.360 in online search you know frankly I'm actually surprised it's not even higher but 90 percent is
00:05:11.560 the is the rough approximate market share in online search it's approximately 95 percent even higher
00:05:19.100 for smartphone search function and part of that is that what Google does is they literally will pay
00:05:24.760 Apple and Samsung they will pay these smartphone manufacturers to make sure that when you open
00:05:29.660 your mobile browser it defaults to Google as a search engine result there it's actually very
00:05:35.100 similar in many ways to the last high-profile antitrust lawsuit that was brought by the DOJ about
00:05:41.840 two decades prior to Bill Barr launching the suit in 2020 which was the DOJ's case back then against
00:05:47.140 Microsoft back then what they were accusing Microsoft of doing was trying to illicitly package
00:05:52.280 their internet explorer browser back into places where a natural market function would have given
00:05:59.200 you a panoply of options so they were accusing Microsoft of monopolistic behavior then very very
00:06:04.960 similar frankly to what Google was accused and has now been held by the court of doing today so it is
00:06:11.440 really a landmark ruling I cannot possibly overstate the importance of this it is the federal government's
00:06:16.920 first major win in an antitrust case in literally 20 to 25 years or so Google's obviously going to
00:06:24.420 get their shot at appeal at least to the DC circuit it'll probably go to the full en banc the full judges
00:06:29.840 of the DC circuit probably a decent chance this is going to go all the way to the US Supreme Court just
00:06:34.940 given the the high profile high visibility nature of this particular case on the point of remedy what is
00:06:41.700 actually going to happen here which you alluded to interesting that the judge Judge Mehta did not
00:06:46.920 decide that so this 286 page ruling was just going through the history just crunching the numbers
00:06:51.960 doing a market analysis of the search function the advertising market just showing how they are
00:06:56.440 actually monopolist he decided that there's going to be an entirely separate ruling on the question of
00:07:02.100 relief what the actual remedy will be and you know for those of us like myself who who have been beating
00:07:07.300 this drum for years now that Google is monopolist we can't keep we can't get our foot off the gas
00:07:12.860 pedal yet at least until we actually find out what the remedy is so for instance the judge could do
00:07:18.180 a very light-hearted remedy where he could say basically Google you are forbidden from paying for example
00:07:23.440 Apple and Samsung to make sure that the search engine is default on your mobile browsers or they
00:07:28.020 could actually have a much higher profile remedy where they force a divestiture of maybe the Android
00:07:33.240 smartphone app business things along those lines I'm not entirely sure what it would look like but
00:07:37.880 there are different types of remedies that it could look like in a massive antitrust case of this nature
00:07:42.340 the final point I'll just make real briefly is that you know for those wasn't kind of the more national
00:07:46.640 conservative national populist wing of the American right this is a tremendous victory against the
00:07:52.140 libertarians the chamber of commerce the corporates corporatists excuse me that that wing of the party
00:07:57.180 back when Bill Barr and Macon Delrahim filed this lawsuit from the perch of the Trump DOJ back in
00:08:03.100 2020 they received a massive amount of scorn mockery and ridicule from the folks like the
00:08:09.420 Wall Street Journal editorial page you know all the usual suspects the people that are out there kind
00:08:14.020 of doing the chamber of commerce's bidding so in the American rights kind of internal antitrust battle
00:08:20.320 this is a tremendous victory for people like Josh Hawley JD Vance all the people who have taken a more
00:08:26.540 aggressive posture towards antitrust in a way that is less deferential to corporate interests so
00:08:32.460 it's a huge victory again Google's gonna appeal we'll see where it goes but it's a massive massive
00:08:37.300 deal I think yeah absolutely it really does highlight the complexity of the internal politics
00:08:43.080 on the right it reminds me a lot of say at the turn of the millennium where you had the Koch brothers
00:08:48.960 at the Wall Street Journal all of these supposedly kind of right-wing or libertarian organizations
00:08:54.480 pushing for open borders eventually leading to mass immigration and now it's really flipped
00:09:00.420 on the other side and you see the same with big pharma and now with big tech I'm cautiously optimistic
00:09:07.500 myself I think it's fantastic that a corporation like Google might be brought to heel I also think
00:09:13.560 it's great that you have more public consciousness around it I think that for the longest time people
00:09:18.680 kind of let Google sit in the background they've been you know sifting through their emails and
00:09:24.160 everything else without any real suspicion that maybe just maybe it was in Google's interest and
00:09:30.560 not in the public's interest real quickly I just want to know if this does go forward if Google is
00:09:36.760 brought to heel if they are either no longer allowed to kind of pay to play with Apple Mozilla
00:09:42.240 Samsung if Google is or you know in the most extreme case forced to kind of break up some of the the
00:09:50.300 smaller subsidiary companies what happens then because right now you have all of these kind of
00:09:56.400 little tech players so to speak Mark Andreessen Ben Horowitz and then of course the the long-standing
00:10:03.400 sort of tech guys the the broligarchs as they've been called like Peter Thiel and now Elon Musk moving
00:10:11.060 in to influence the Trump administration do you see this as being a way of kind of cracking the rainbow
00:10:19.340 block of the gray tribe to let the red white and blue block of the gray tribe in so to speak
00:10:25.880 look I think it has that kind of potential for sure I mean I saw a lot of people on Twitter
00:10:32.560 X whatever we're calling it these days I saw a lot of people on X yesterday basically saying
00:10:36.540 you know Elon Musk when are you going to release your search engine I mean just this morning you
00:10:41.520 know in a separate but nonetheless related headline you know the general counsel at Google actually
00:10:46.580 admitted that the search algorithms when you search Donald Trump assassination attempt the
00:10:51.360 the Google in-house general counsel actually admitted that it was not showing up and you know he
00:10:56.760 appealed to this like neutral thing that they were trying to make sure that presidential violence or
00:11:01.340 political violence didn't show up no one's buying that I mean Google single-handedly in the 2016
00:11:06.720 election based on the testimony in the U.S. Senate in 2017 of a PhD sociologist by the name of Robert
00:11:12.340 Epstein Dr. Epstein testified that Google swayed three million votes from Donald Trump to Hillary
00:11:18.140 Clinton in 2016 and he was actually by the way Dr. Epstein was a Hillary Clinton voter and that was
00:11:22.360 nonetheless his testimony you know the question of Google and the big tech oligarchs in general which is
00:11:28.060 why the antitrust case was so important the question is not necessarily as micro as you know
00:11:34.200 whether it's more or less convenient to have Google on your smartphone no it's not about that we're
00:11:38.820 talking here about fundamental questions of sovereignty and who actually guards the watchman who watches the
00:11:44.180 watchman who controls America's own destiny at a very kind of high level philosophical level are we
00:11:50.060 actually controlling who receives information by our own accountable actors in Washington D.C. our own
00:11:57.600 elected officials or are we essentially outsourcing those decisions to unaccountable Silicon Valley
00:12:03.740 dweebs at places like Google in Mountain View California who they're recruiting from the same kind of
00:12:09.020 incestuous Cal Berkeley and Stanford PhD computer science programs I mean it really is a question of
00:12:14.620 sovereignty at the end of the day here and that's part that's kind of part of this broader political
00:12:19.440 rethink that I was alluding to earlier I think the proper way to view massive unaccountable corporations
00:12:25.460 like Google is kind of the classical idea of the corporation which is the corporation is ultimately
00:12:30.880 chartered by the government you literally have a charter of governance for a corporation and
00:12:35.160 ultimately the classical view of the corporations is that the corporation is ultimately accountable to
00:12:39.940 the common good to the public good and when it deviates from that mission it can be reigned in
00:12:44.300 appropriately by we the people who are actually sovereign under our constitutional order so that's kind of a
00:12:49.440 philosophical upstream argument but the legally downstream Sherman Act case is open and shut it's a
00:12:54.580 fantastic ruling I would love to see rival search engines pop up from the broligarchs Elon Musk people
00:13:00.140 like that that would be fantastic honestly well I guess a transhumanist revolution is going to need its
00:13:06.180 right wing as much as it's left Josh Hammer I really appreciate you coming on where can people find
00:13:12.860 American on trial America on trial and where where can people find your writings yeah thank you so much
00:13:20.000 so I'm on Twitter Josh underscore Hammer I have a syndicated column that goes up at Newsweek and a bunch
00:13:26.220 of other publications as well and then I host two shows America on trial with Josh Hammer and then also
00:13:31.580 the Josh Hammer show fantastic thank you very much sir thank you for coming by thank you
00:13:37.620 well if you have followed the stock market you know that things are volatile you know that people
00:13:45.180 addicted to their apps along with the large mega corpse in Wall Street have seen a massive plummet in
00:13:52.820 value what has survived of course is gold nobody knows for sure but it's always best to be prepared
00:14:01.580 when you are accumulating your savings so if a crash happens your hard-earned money will be protected
00:14:08.640 inside precious metals plus with a gold IRA from Birch Gold Group you can move your IRA or
00:14:14.960 401k into physical gold without paying any taxes or penalties to learn more get a free kit
00:14:21.600 on gold IRAs by going to birchgold.com slash Bannon that's birchgold.com slash Bannon Birch Gold Group
00:14:32.040 is the only gold company our company trusts to help patriots defend their savings so take a stand right
00:14:37.940 now go to birchgold.com slash Bannon and get your free info kit on gold IRAs
00:14:44.020 now back to the fire on the ground the unit the United Kingdom has seen enormous upheavals
00:14:54.880 on the backs of a murder you had an immigrant as it was originally reported but as it turns out a
00:15:02.620 nationalized UK citizen who murdered three girls with a knife leading to enormous social upheaval
00:15:12.160 we'll bring in a video and then Rick Munn from Ireland let's see the video Denver
00:15:18.080 I had a Cobra meeting this morning which was an opportunity that I took to thank the police for
00:15:24.940 their work over the last few days to express my support for the police officers who have been injured
00:15:30.780 and the communities impacted by this mindless thuggery. There are a number of actions that came out of the
00:15:37.420 meeting the first is we will have a standing army of specialist officers public duty officers
00:15:45.000 so that we'll have enough officers to deal with this where we need them
00:15:50.020 the second is we'll ramp up criminal justice there have already been hundreds of arrests
00:15:56.260 some have appeared in court this morning I've asked for early consideration of the earliest naming
00:16:02.280 an identification of those involved in the process who will feel the full force of the law and thirdly
00:16:09.580 I've been absolutely clear that the criminal law applies online as well as offline and I'm assured
00:16:15.940 that that's the approach that is being taken whatever the apparent motivation this is not protest
00:16:23.120 it is pure violence and we will not tolerate attacks on mosques or our Muslim communities so the full force
00:16:32.920 of the law will be visited on all those who are identified as having taken part in these activities
00:16:39.060 orial Mandeles
00:16:55.920 mlade
00:16:57.220 mlade
00:16:57.340 mlade
00:16:58.140 mlade
00:16:58.480 mlade
00:16:58.820 mlade
00:16:59.280 mlade
00:17:00.080 mlade
00:17:00.940 mlade
00:17:01.920 mlade
00:17:03.260 mlade
00:17:04.880 mlade
00:17:04.980 mlade
00:17:06.280 mlade
00:17:08.900 ourt.
00:17:18.320 Speaker 9 00 0
00:17:20.820 Speaker 10 00 01 00 00 01
00:17:32.240 Martin 48 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 underneath
00:17:35.240 Quite disturbing indeed.
00:17:51.120 Rick Munn coming to us from Ireland.
00:17:54.060 Rick has followed this in detail as well as other immigration issues in the UK.
00:17:59.940 Rick, what can you tell us about the murder that sparked us off, the resulting uprising
00:18:04.680 and what the potentials are for a government crackdown in response?
00:18:10.320 Well, this all kicked off, Joe, last week when someone entered a children's playgroup area
00:18:16.440 and stabbed three children so far to death.
00:18:19.940 There was two died initially, one died following that.
00:18:23.220 Other people are critically injured.
00:18:25.260 A lot of speculation on who the stabber was.
00:18:28.620 Tensions have been running very, very high in the UK and Ireland here at the moment
00:18:32.860 over the whole migration or illegal immigration issue.
00:18:36.840 So speculation started to spin on who the stabber was.
00:18:41.200 The police weren't releasing any details.
00:18:43.480 A fake news outlet released a false name, an Arabic-sounding name.
00:18:49.020 That was picked up on by a lot of the so-called commentators who dived straight in at the deep end
00:18:54.120 without doing their fact-checking before spreading this around.
00:18:57.460 It turned out to be false.
00:18:58.700 Then it turned out to be the police were saying this was a Cardiff-born Welsh teenager had done the stabbing,
00:19:07.120 which I believe was the case.
00:19:08.400 The person doing the stabbing was actually born in the UK.
00:19:11.480 However, he is from a family of Rwandan immigrants.
00:19:16.620 So, of course, that stoked tensions up even higher.
00:19:20.180 So, when a vigil was being held for the children that were stabbed, tensions were extremely high in this place called Southport.
00:19:28.240 And someone else was spotted there, an Asian character with a knife.
00:19:34.300 So, that set everything off.
00:19:36.340 And the vigil turned very quickly.
00:19:38.660 There was a riot happening at the same time as the peaceful vigil.
00:19:42.660 So, a complete mess since last week.
00:19:46.080 And, of course, the attention's very much turned on to rioting now.
00:19:51.520 This has sparked off riots right across the UK.
00:19:54.040 We're seeing riots in Birmingham.
00:19:55.620 We're seeing riots in Plymouth last night, in Belfast.
00:19:59.120 We had them on Saturday.
00:20:01.060 Bolton, all over the place.
00:20:02.880 So, tensions are very high at the minute here, Joe.
00:20:05.680 Tensions are very high.
00:20:06.980 You know, we hear there from your Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, that the thugs will be brought to justice, both those acting offline and those online.
00:20:20.440 Implicit in a lot of his rhetoric is that the thuggery is coming from the far right.
00:20:25.720 But, at least on social media, people who are independently releasing footage, we see that there's plenty of kind of counterinsurgency, maybe you could say, from those of the Muslim background in the UK.
00:20:40.140 So, as we're moving forward, you have a very deep knowledge of the justice system in the UK and perhaps its biases.
00:20:49.520 Can we expect to see those who are committing violence on the streets to be prosecuted evenly across the board?
00:20:57.080 Or is there some expectation that there will be a bias in the system?
00:21:01.600 Well, let me give you another example, Joe.
00:21:03.580 Two weeks ago, approximately, there was an incident at Manchester Airport where footage was released of a police officer who had tasered a suspect to the ground, kicked him in the head and stomped on his head and then dropped the knee to the kidney.
00:21:20.840 This was released widely across social media, so obviously the police were being branded racist.
00:21:25.520 However, footage later emerged of the people that had been tased, this man and his brother, violently attacking police in the airport.
00:21:34.420 So, they were a firearms unit, they were dispatched, and this was going backwards and forwards.
00:21:40.020 The police are racist.
00:21:41.100 No, they're defending themselves.
00:21:42.380 They used too much force.
00:21:43.540 No, they didn't.
00:21:44.380 To cut a long story short, the two people that were involved in the assaults on police officers in Manchester Airport,
00:21:51.560 one of the policewomen allegedly received a broken nose for her troubles as well.
00:21:56.900 They have both been released on bail and employed the services of a human rights lawyer saying that their human rights have been impinged and they're being branded racist and it's affecting their lives.
00:22:09.420 That's what you have on one side.
00:22:11.180 On the other side, you have people that have been coloured as a result of these rats across the UK.
00:22:16.380 And the government's making it very clear that there's zero tolerance for this, that they'll feel the full force of the law.
00:22:23.380 And prison spaces have been cleared to detain them.
00:22:27.880 But this is in contrast to people that have violently assaulted, for example, police officers at Manchester Airport, released on bail.
00:22:34.880 Well, other people that are looting, for example, food shops coming out with some food, for example, and get caught up in these rats, they're being remanded on custody until they are tried and then sentenced.
00:22:47.080 So the whole business of two-tier policing is very much on display.
00:22:51.640 Even yesterday in Birmingham, there seemed to be a very softly, softly approach when it came to certain communities that were being policed.
00:22:58.540 Whereas in protests in London the other night, other groups, let's just say, were being cattled and violently beaten.
00:23:05.540 So this hashtag has started to appear on social media platforms.
00:23:09.960 Even Elon Musk himself is using it in reference to the British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
00:23:15.740 And the hashtag is two-tier Keir in relation to his perceived approach to policing in the UK, two-tier policing.
00:23:22.540 Andy's came out this week to vigorously deny that that's the case, but you can't deny the evidence of your own ears.
00:23:28.940 And even a blind man on a galloping horse could see it, that there is two-tier policing, in effect, in Britain at the minute.
00:23:36.220 Got to love those Irish idioms.
00:23:38.300 So we have only just a few moments left.
00:23:40.700 But speaking of Ireland and their wonderful facility with language, I have seen a lot of your coverage about migrants being moved in under order of the UK government, oftentimes seeing fairy fields or, you know, the kind of classic Celtic sites being destroyed to build up apartment housing for migrants.
00:24:02.660 And, of course, the native population being moved out.
00:24:04.940 Just in the few moments we have left, can you give us some sense of how this spreads out across the entirety of the UK?
00:24:11.980 Well, actually, in Ireland, Joe, it's a little bit more complicated because you have it divided into north and south, at least in some people's eyes.
00:24:18.960 So the north is still under the control of the UK government.
00:24:21.800 The south of the republic is very much under control of the Irish government.
00:24:24.760 But both governments have the same approach.
00:24:27.000 They're bringing men, mostly men, into local communities and forcing them in there.
00:24:32.820 The communities aren't even being forced out, Joe.
00:24:35.620 These men are being forced in to share space with them.
00:24:40.060 And there is no amenities.
00:24:41.340 Some of the villages, for example, that these men are being sent into have a community of around about 200 to 300 villagers.
00:24:48.560 And there could be as many as 200 to 300 foreign men being planted into the middle of them.
00:24:53.780 The residents are not being listened to.
00:24:55.820 They're not being given an ear.
00:24:57.320 They're being deemed to be xenophobic, right-wing extremists, racist, call them whatever you want.
00:25:02.320 These are old men.
00:25:03.180 These are old women.
00:25:04.160 These are young mothers and young fathers with young families in the area.
00:25:07.640 And, of course, they have a legitimate concern.
00:25:09.780 Why are these men being forced in here?
00:25:11.680 We don't want them here.
00:25:12.680 We don't have the services.
00:25:14.140 We don't even have the doctor's services to support our own community, let alone to support a doubling of the community overnight by foreign men.
00:25:21.220 We don't even know who they are.
00:25:22.340 What are they going to do?
00:25:23.300 There's no jobs here.
00:25:24.260 How are they going to integrate?
00:25:25.400 So legitimate concerns, Joe, are being completely ignored by both the Irish and the British governments at the minute.
00:25:31.620 That's why we see ourselves in the position we're in.
00:25:34.440 And it's equally bad in Ireland at the moment with regards to sites being allocated for these men to be forced into communities by the hundreds,
00:25:43.340 if not by the thousands in some cases, with a complete disregard to people's feelings, fears and concerns by their respective governments.
00:25:51.120 Hence, we find ourselves with flashpoints appearing now and things getting progressively more violent.
00:25:59.540 You know, in this age, all boundaries are broken, both national and those between the sacred and profane.
00:26:06.320 Rick Munn, where can people find you?
00:26:08.420 You have a lot of great material on Twitter and, of course, or X, and, of course, at TNT.
00:26:13.320 Please tell everybody where they can follow you.
00:26:16.000 I have a live show on TNT News, TNT.news, Monday through Friday, 810 to midday UK time.
00:26:24.360 And also, if you do use the X or Twitter platform, you can find me.
00:26:27.860 My handle is NoRiskNoReward.
00:26:29.460 But, of course, everything's inverted on there.
00:26:31.360 So it's at NoReward underscore NoRisk.
00:26:34.300 That's where you can find my musings if you're so desired to do so.
00:26:38.740 Rick Munn, we really appreciate you coming by.
00:26:40.840 Hope to speak to you again soon.
00:26:41.960 We'll be right back after a commercial break.
00:26:45.440 The elites are getting desperate.
00:27:03.860 They now want to use the technology behind Bitcoin for their own Orwellian purposes.
00:27:08.360 Their gold? To dominate our economy by forcing everyone to use central bank digital currencies, which they control.
00:27:16.540 Imagine your every purchase being called into question.
00:27:19.580 Your every move tracked.
00:27:20.980 Like you live in a communist country.
00:27:23.460 This is not the America we want, but it is the America they want to create.
00:27:28.000 Fortunately, you can fight back.
00:27:30.280 I believe owning gold is the best solution.
00:27:32.500 Why? Because it keeps you in control and safeguards your savings.
00:27:36.540 Plus, with a gold IRA from Birch Gold, you can move your IRA or 401k into physical gold without paying any taxes or penalties.
00:27:46.260 To learn more, get a free info kit by going to birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:27:51.020 That's birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:27:53.840 Birch Gold is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings.
00:27:58.960 Let me repeat that. Birch Gold Group is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings.
00:28:06.280 So take a stand right now.
00:28:08.200 Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon and get your free info kit on gold IRA.
00:28:15.260 Tax season is over.
00:28:16.780 And for the IRS, that means collection season is on.
00:28:20.560 They got an army of agents targeting hardworking Americans just like you.
00:28:25.020 So if you owe back taxes, you need to know about Tax Network USA.
00:28:30.600 Tax Network USA has brilliant strategies to resolve your IRS problems quickly and in your favor.
00:28:37.980 Here's why you need Tax Network USA.
00:28:40.240 They have preferred direct lines to the IRS.
00:28:43.140 They know which agents to work with and which ones to avoid.
00:28:46.200 They specialize in reducing or even eliminating your tax debt.
00:28:49.900 They're tough negotiators to explore every possible solution to end your tax problems and to end them fast.
00:28:57.540 They've resolved over $1 billion in tax debts for their clients.
00:29:02.300 Some of these programs expire.
00:29:03.880 You don't want to wait on this.
00:29:05.420 Contact Tax Network USA today.
00:29:08.160 Schedule your free consultation.
00:29:10.080 That's a free consultation.
00:29:11.820 Schedule it now.
00:29:12.860 Call 1-800-245-6000.
00:29:16.140 That's 1-800-245-6000.
00:29:20.400 Or visit TNUSA.com.
00:29:23.380 That's TNUSA.com slash Bannon.
00:29:27.620 TNUSA.com slash Bannon.
00:29:29.680 Do not wait.
00:29:31.200 Take action and do it today.
00:29:33.960 Debt.
00:29:35.060 You go to bed thinking about it.
00:29:36.640 You wake up thinking about it.
00:29:38.220 Here's the truth.
00:29:38.900 The system traps you in debt.
00:29:40.900 High interest credit cards and loans make it nearly impossible to pay off your debt.
00:29:45.200 An insane inflation keeps you stuck paycheck to paycheck.
00:29:50.540 Done with debt is your lifeline.
00:29:53.300 Done with debt has an ingenious new strategy to help you erase your debt faster and easier than you thought possible.
00:29:59.960 Done with debt analyzes all the debt options you qualify for.
00:30:04.720 They know how to reduce bills.
00:30:06.560 They know how to cut interest rates.
00:30:08.520 Their skilled staff of negotiators know how to get debt out of your life permanently.
00:30:13.140 Without bankruptcy and without a loan.
00:30:16.700 Done with debt are the experts and brilliant strategies for eliminating debt.
00:30:20.820 But you need to hurry because some debt solutions are time sensitive.
00:30:25.300 Here's how easy they make it.
00:30:27.120 Go to donewithdebt.com.
00:30:29.040 That's donewithdebt.com.
00:30:31.300 Donewithdebt.com.
00:30:32.560 And immerse yourself in information today.
00:30:34.820 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
00:30:39.380 War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:44.720 Be in no doubt, those that have participated in this violence will face the full force of the law.
00:30:52.920 I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves.
00:31:16.380 This is not protest.
00:31:19.920 It is organized, violent thuggery.
00:31:23.520 And it has no place on our streets or online.
00:31:27.680 All right, welcome back.
00:31:31.480 I'm Joe Allen, sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon, who sits in prison unjustly.
00:31:36.960 If you are watching what's happening in the U.K., if you are wary about what may be happening soon in the U.S.,
00:31:44.960 perhaps you are concerned about the ability of the government to track your device.
00:31:49.400 We've seen governments both in the U.K. and the U.S. use geofencing to track devices of individuals on January 6th.
00:31:57.180 Now in the U.K., riots leading to unwarranted arrests without evidence of wrongdoing.
00:32:02.320 Stop big tech and government overreach.
00:32:04.960 There is no other option.
00:32:06.540 You have to protect yourself.
00:32:08.180 Silent offers an efficient and easy solution to protect your location and personal data.
00:32:13.920 Their Faraday products block all incoming and outcoming signals so no one can get their hands on your information.
00:32:20.400 Simply place your device inside, close the sleeve, and that's it.
00:32:23.780 You're off the grid, untrackable, and safeguarded from unauthorized access.
00:32:28.340 Go to silenttoday at slnt.com slash Bannon to save 15% plus free shipping on qualifying orders.
00:32:37.380 Stay ahead of what's coming and secure your privacy today.
00:32:40.120 Again, that's silentt.com slash Bannon for 15% off.
00:32:46.840 So now that we're seeing the actual realities of this unfold, we see that ethnic hatred, which some would say is embedded in the human DNA as a tribal instinct to protect one's own in-group against the out-group.
00:33:03.540 Then you see this stoked by media-saturated culture in which a single event can rip across a population and send everyone into turmoil.
00:33:14.220 We know for certain that the government and the tech companies that support the government's activities are now positioned to exert ever more power of surveillance, of silencing active voices,
00:33:31.380 and, of course, in certain instances of bringing people into custody on the basis of nothing more than what they've said or perhaps what they have done that has been caught on camera but is not being evenly prosecuted across the society.
00:33:47.560 To speak about this, I'd like to bring in Noor bin Laden.
00:33:49.880 Noor, of course, has a fascinating biography which puts her in the center of a lot of this ethnic conflict and also, in many ways, I would say, if I may speak for you to some extent, Noor transcends these conflicts.
00:34:07.840 So, Noor, what can you tell us about your perspective on these ongoing riots and, of course, what the likely government and technological response will be?
00:34:16.280 Thank you very much, Joe, for your introduction.
00:34:21.620 The first thing I'll say, which is a summary, is that it's always the same playbooks, namely two of them that we are seeing play out right now.
00:34:30.320 The first one being divide and rule, and the second being problem-reaction-solution.
00:34:37.660 And this is precisely what is unfolding here in Europe, in the UK more specifically.
00:34:43.480 And Mr. Munn did a brilliant job in the previous segment laying down and explaining to the audience what is actually happening on the ground.
00:34:54.860 If I may, I'd like to bring a little bit of a historical perspective to explain how we got here in the first place.
00:35:01.960 And in my opinion, you can draw a straight line between the destabilization and destruction of the Middle East under our, quote, leaders, namely Obama, Merkel, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, all of these characters during the Arab Spring.
00:35:24.680 And then the opening of the opening of the opening of the opening of the opening of the opening of the opening of the floodgates of these migrants in Europe, with a key turning point in 2015.
00:35:31.780 Of course, this influx of mass migration started many years, many decades before.
00:35:38.840 But we are seeing right now the culmination of this manufactured, deliberate operation on the West.
00:35:48.440 And it is very painful to watch this unfold as our countries here are being in such turmoil with crimes skyrocketing from rapes to murders and various different assaults.
00:36:05.580 And seeing how these are being used in multiple ways against us, namely also to crack down on our freedoms.
00:36:18.440 I'm curious, when you say that this is deliberate, do you suspect that the current upheaval that we see right now was in some way either intended directly or perhaps just the natural outcome of mass immigration, putting people in close quarters together and kind of waiting to see what would happen, knowing that inevitably ethnic tensions would be sparked off?
00:36:45.340 Yes, absolutely.
00:36:48.340 In that sense, it is very much the opposite of organic.
00:36:52.340 And it was just a matter of time until such chaos would essentially be so visible in the streets of our countries.
00:37:04.340 But this has been a long-standing plan.
00:37:07.340 And I would say that actually we are living through the culmination of over 200 years of political subversion, intelligence operations and paramilitary tactics.
00:37:19.340 You know, you can go back to the early 1800s, late 1700s, early 1800s, up to today, with obviously the two world wars of the 20th century, with the creation of NATO.
00:37:33.340 I was on the show in June to discuss NATO and to denounce the organization and calling for its dismantling, because when it comes to these types of tactics,
00:37:46.340 NATO has been absolutely instrumental specifically in Europe in creating these destabilizations and these subversive operations through the use of paramilitary networks.
00:38:02.340 You know, I'm obviously referring to Operation Gladio, or also known as the Stand Behind operation.
00:38:09.340 And this is nothing new, unfortunately, Joe.
00:38:15.340 They infiltrate different groups and they create chaos by using such tactics as assassination, as psychological warfare.
00:38:26.340 And the goal is to manipulate and steer society and shape society in the way that they would like.
00:38:37.340 You know, I think about, as Munn had mentioned, the initial reporting that this was an Arabic immigrant, only to find out that it was the descendant of Rwandan immigrants.
00:38:48.540 But you think about the rapidity of spread of such social media stories, right, that you can send out a single meme, spark off mass violence,
00:38:58.540 and then you can even kind of implicate the people who are outraged by saying, oh, this is all based on falsehood, when in fact the original grievance that your country is being inundated by foreign nationals,
00:39:13.740 and that your rights, as in this case, UK citizens are being trampled upon, then the same organizations, perhaps or perhaps not, that initially seeded the false narrative could then use that to smear your character or the collective character of your group.
00:39:32.540 And then simultaneously, as you see the uprising, you have facial recognition technologies, you already have just people, you know, as swarms videotaping everything they're doing anyway.
00:39:44.100 You have social network mapping and all these different technological methods to kind of scoop up what the kind of bad seeds that you yourself planted, if we take it as a single sort of organization.
00:39:56.560 So what I want to ask you is, if this is the case, if in fact you can find both the same player in the problem, in the reaction, in the solution, who are they and what is it that they want?
00:40:11.740 What direction is it that they're trying to take all of this?
00:40:15.500 What I will say is that they are using something that is called the strategy of tension by pitting these different groups together that are clearly incompatible.
00:40:24.800 And why I sent you the clip, you know, that specific clip of Keir Starmer is because through the use of this strategy of tension, then they can come up with the, quote, solutions.
00:40:36.720 And the solutions inevitably lead to loss of freedoms for the, quote, local population.
00:40:45.400 So that's us here in the West.
00:40:46.900 And you just alluded to some of them, you know, from mass surveillance, you know, the increase of CCT cameras, facial recognition, obviously in lockstep with EU regulations on censorship and, you know, quote, disinformation, the rolling out of digital IDs.
00:41:04.720 The goal here, one of the key goals is obviously to end online anonymity.
00:41:09.040 And that speech specifically that Keir Starmer gave after the riots was so dystopian and so honest, you know, in terms of what awaits the population of our countries.
00:41:23.940 And all I could think about was what about the repercussions for the people committing the actual crimes?
00:41:31.380 You see, they're using these protests, which, in my opinion, like many of the protests, have been subverted.
00:41:39.200 And, you know, you have agitators there that, you know, burn things to the ground, et cetera.
00:41:43.760 All of this to detract from the reason why people are protesting in the first place, which the government is entirely responsible for.
00:41:56.660 It is because of the state, it is because of their policies that we are in this situation right now and that there is this violence and that our children, our mothers, you know, fathers are being murdered and raped and assaulted.
00:42:12.860 And Mr. Munn, you know, alluded to it or, you know, called it out for what it is, two-tier policing and a two-tier justice system.
00:42:24.300 And Keir Starmer made no apologies for it.
00:42:30.600 Well, Noor, I feel your outrage.
00:42:33.320 And without a doubt, whether through incompetence, malice or some combination, we know who is, in fact, responsible for all of this.
00:42:40.720 Noor, where can people find you?
00:42:43.340 Where can we find your writings?
00:42:45.140 Your last piece was absolutely fantastic.
00:42:47.940 And how can we follow you on the social media slave chain?
00:42:53.120 Thank you very much, Joe.
00:42:54.260 The one last thing I'd like to say is, you know, all of this may seem overwhelming,
00:42:58.700 but I would say that the first step in defending oneself against psychological warfare tactics is to be aware of them.
00:43:07.880 And so that is one of the key topics I write about on my Substack, norbinladin.substack.com.
00:43:16.480 And if I may, my dear, dear friend Richard Poe released a book entitled
00:43:23.400 How the British Invented Communism and Blamed It on the Jews.
00:43:28.420 And the foreword was written by yours truly.
00:43:31.280 And it goes over the past 200 years of such tactics as well and how our intelligence services have been working against us
00:43:43.420 and towards the demise of our populations here in the West.
00:43:50.340 Noor, thank you very much for your insight.
00:43:52.540 We look forward to seeing you again.
00:43:54.500 Thank you.
00:43:55.160 Our next guest, Courtney Turner, who hosts the Courtney Turner podcast,
00:44:03.480 has actually recently interviewed Richard Poe
00:44:05.780 and has spent a lot of time researching the sorts of political, spiritual,
00:44:10.900 and in many ways intelligence agency-based operations that have led us up to the point we're at today.
00:44:17.300 I'd like to bring in Courtney to talk first about perhaps the relevance of Mr. Poe's book,
00:44:23.800 but also the Fabian connection, the Fabian Society's connection to Keir Starmer.
00:44:31.180 And what is the importance of the Fabian Society maybe still relevant today?
00:44:41.800 Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me.
00:44:43.740 Yes, and this is actually what my conference is really all about,
00:44:47.340 is exactly what Norvalon just brought up, these dialectical tensions.
00:44:51.540 And so the Fabians are kind of at the heart of that.
00:44:54.920 They started in the late 1800s, I believe it was 1884.
00:44:59.800 And they were, you know, their original coat of arms was the wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:45:05.100 And I believe this was actually a nod to these dialectical warfare tactics,
00:45:09.880 that they are such masters of weaponizing.
00:45:12.700 Their mascot is the tortoise.
00:45:14.540 And they even today on their, if you look like on their Facebook, they have a picture of this tortoise.
00:45:20.260 And it says, when I strike, I snap hard.
00:45:22.880 And it's the model of incrementalism.
00:45:25.760 So it was this idea of, instead of a violent revolution, that it would be this slow, gradual,
00:45:32.260 based on the ancient figure of Fabius Maximus, this idea that slowly, gradually, they would infiltrate and subvert.
00:45:41.680 And I think that's really the heart of what we're seeing today.
00:45:44.780 And there's a really great book.
00:45:46.480 And it's funny because my friend Jay Dyer, who's going to be speaking at the conference,
00:45:51.180 actually posted, he's been lecturing on this book for a very long time.
00:45:55.280 I've done some lectures with Monica Perez on this book as well.
00:46:00.080 And he posted it.
00:46:01.680 And I retweeted it.
00:46:03.140 A couple of other people did.
00:46:04.160 It went viral.
00:46:04.960 And he was kind of mystified by it.
00:46:06.740 But I'm really glad because I think it does a—it's called The Milliner Fabian Conspiracy.
00:46:11.400 And it's written by Ion Rattu.
00:46:13.340 And I think it does a great job of outlining how they have played these dialectical tension.
00:46:19.460 These same people have pitted these two groups against each other, who they knew were fundamentally,
00:46:26.360 as Nora just explained, fundamentally opposed to each other.
00:46:30.100 So it's not—when people want to say, like, it's just simple and we can find an easy solution,
00:46:36.260 the reality is they don't want to.
00:46:37.880 They want to stoke these kinds of tensions because they want to breed chaos.
00:46:42.580 And the chaos is a breeding ground for usurpation of power.
00:46:45.740 And they're really at the heart of so much of what we're seeing today, not just with the
00:46:48.840 political tensions, but, you know, with a lot of the religious kind of momentum that
00:46:54.660 we're seeing at the heart of things like the U.N.
00:46:57.340 The U.N.'s, you know, spiritual underbelly or their consultancy, as they refer to it, is
00:47:02.100 Lucius Trust.
00:47:03.460 And that was, of course, created by Alice Bailey in 1922.
00:47:08.720 It was originally called Lucifer Publishing, and I think that was a little too on the nose.
00:47:13.040 So they changed it to Lucius Trust.
00:47:15.700 But Alice Bailey was the disciple of Madame Blavatsky, who started the Theosophical Society
00:47:20.660 in 1875.
00:47:21.740 And some of the other founding members were Annie Besant, who was also a Fabian socialist
00:47:27.400 and a member of the Fabian Society.
00:47:30.300 So they had brought in a lot of these Theosophical leaders in order to create some of this religious
00:47:38.480 subversion because they understood that, you know, it's not just political tensions through
00:47:43.480 policy.
00:47:44.680 A lot of it is a cultural movement.
00:47:46.760 And oftentimes people, you know, think about when they think of cultural subversion, they
00:47:50.380 think of the neo-Marxist, they think of the Frankfurt School.
00:47:53.020 There was actually a lot of convergence between the two.
00:47:55.520 I've done a lot of my research on Tavistock Institute of Human Relations.
00:48:00.240 Tavistock's predecessor was the British War Propaganda Bureau.
00:48:04.740 And a lot of the founding members were either Milner Group or Fabian Society members.
00:48:11.140 So, yeah, you know, I wish we had five hours to talk about this, but I hope to bring you
00:48:21.460 on again really soon to kind of tease out the complexities underpinning not only the Fabian
00:48:26.300 Society, Lucius Trust, and all of these strange occult threads.
00:48:31.840 I know that you're holding a conference in just about a week and a half, right?
00:48:36.000 What is your conference?
00:48:38.260 Where are you holding it?
00:48:39.100 Who's going to be there?
00:48:40.740 So it's a two-day conference, and we do have in-person tickets for day two, which is August
00:48:45.920 17th.
00:48:46.940 But for those who cannot attend, you can watch both days online.
00:48:50.500 We have the live stream tickets available.
00:48:52.660 One-day live stream tickets are $17.76.
00:48:55.640 I wanted to, you know, capture the essence and spirit of that.
00:48:59.120 But two days is a great discount.
00:49:01.240 It's $25 for the two-day live stream.
00:49:03.140 You can find those at CognitiveLibertyConference.com.
00:49:06.980 And the first day, the focus is going to be on education, which, you know, hearkens to
00:49:11.660 the Fabians, whose whole motto was educate, agitate, and then organize.
00:49:17.500 So really, they were very instrumental in what our friend the late Charlotte Izzeric called
00:49:23.500 the deliberate dumbing down of America.
00:49:25.740 And they really targeted the West, but primarily the United States of America.
00:49:29.740 And they did that very fundamentally through the indoctrination and brainwashing of the
00:49:35.840 education system.
00:49:37.000 So we're going to go through that.
00:49:38.800 We've got John Klesick, who wrote School World Order.
00:49:42.400 He's going to be there.
00:49:43.680 We've got Matthew Crawford.
00:49:45.300 We have Tiffany Boyd and Erin Cyphers, who has a—she calls it the modern schoolhouse model.
00:49:51.580 And so that's going to be the first day, and we'll go through the history of the delivered
00:49:57.000 dumbing down of America, what that agenda is, what is the goal of that, to create, you
00:50:02.360 know, what—why was the World Corps curriculum adopted to become Common Corps in the United
00:50:06.720 States, to create—sorry, yeah?
00:50:09.460 Yes, Courtney, we are running up on the clock.
00:50:13.060 But if you will, just let everyone know again, where can they get tickets?
00:50:17.700 What are the dates?
00:50:18.560 And give us a couple more names.
00:50:21.340 Okay, so we've got—so you can get it at CognitiveLibertyConference.com.
00:50:25.540 Day two is going to have James Lindsay, Jay Dyer, Stephen Coughlin, Michael O'Fallon,
00:50:30.880 and Dr. John Gentry.
00:50:32.680 And that focus is going to be on dialectical, political, psychological warfare, exactly what
00:50:37.620 we're talking about now and what we're seeing so aggressively weaponized today.
00:50:41.880 And you can get those tickets at CognitiveLibertyConference.com.
00:50:46.740 Fantastic.
00:50:47.180 I look forward to going myself, and thank you very much for coming on.
00:50:50.440 We look forward to having you back.
00:50:52.280 Thank you so much.
00:50:53.900 Well, there are always options, and you can take a stand for conservative causes that put
00:51:00.720 America first by switching to Patriot Mobile today.
00:51:04.560 You'll get the same nationwide coverage as all the big providers because Patriot Mobile
00:51:09.740 operates across all three major networks.
00:51:11.920 Right now, get a free month when you use the offer code BANNON.
00:51:16.800 Go to PatriotMobile.com slash BANNON.
00:51:19.980 Don't get fooled by other providers pretending to share your values or have the same coverage.
00:51:25.200 They don't, and they can't.
00:51:26.680 Join the war room.
00:51:28.760 Switch to America's only Christian conservative mobile provider.
00:51:32.180 Go to PatriotMobile.com slash BANNON or call 972-PATRIOT for your free month of service today.
00:51:39.080 Americans spend billions on supplements every year hoping they'll make up for poor diet
00:51:46.560 or help us avoid serious health problems later.
00:51:50.280 If you trust supplements for your health, know that Harvard Health found zero evidence they work.
00:51:56.220 None.
00:51:56.760 Zero.
00:51:57.040 So what works?
00:51:59.440 What can make you healthier now and later is a daily diet rich in fruits and vegetables.
00:52:05.340 Field of Greens was created by doctors for people who don't always eat right.
00:52:10.140 Field of Greens is not a supplement.
00:52:12.200 Let me repeat this.
00:52:13.140 Field of Greens is not a supplement.
00:52:15.280 It's real, organic, whole fruits and veggies in a delicious daily drink.
00:52:19.880 But unlike the others, each fruit and veggie in Field of Greens was medically selected to support your vital organs.
00:52:27.460 There's a heart health group, a liver and kidney function group, metabolism and healthy weight, and so on and so on and so on.
00:52:35.920 And only Field of Greens is backed by a better health promise.
00:52:40.020 Just add Field of Greens to your daily routine.
00:52:42.860 And at your next checkup, your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back.
00:52:48.340 Let me repeat that.
00:52:49.780 You take Field of Greens to your daily routine, and at your next checkup, your doctor will notice your improved health or will give you your money back.
00:52:58.340 Visit FieldofGreens.com and use promo code Bannon for 15% off and free shipping.
00:53:04.460 That's promo code Bannon at FieldofGreens.com.
00:53:08.220 These kills nearly 700,000 Americans every year.
00:53:12.240 Yes, heart disease is the number one killer every year, year in and year out.
00:53:15.960 Heart disease builds over time.
00:53:18.140 Hypertension, high blood pressure, bad cholesterol, diabetes, all of it affects our heart.
00:53:23.360 A healthy heart is key to being energetic as we get older.
00:53:27.880 It is never too early to take care of your heart.
00:53:31.980 You see, heart disease sneaks up on us.
00:53:34.100 You can start in your 30s, and when this happens, you're at serious risk by the time you turn 60.
00:53:37.720 If you want to take care of your heart and those you care about, please go to WarRoomHealth.com.
00:53:44.420 That's WarRoomHealth.com.
00:53:46.960 All one word, WarRoomHealth.com.
00:53:49.520 Use the code WARRoom at checkout to save 67% of your first shipment.
00:53:54.300 That's code WARRoom at checkout to save 67%.
00:53:57.300 Do it again.
00:53:58.640 WarRoomHealth, all one word, WarRoomHealth.com.
00:54:01.900 Go there today.
00:54:03.620 If you're going to be part of the posse, you need a strong heart.
00:54:06.640 You need a lion's heart.
00:54:08.400 How we're going to do that is with Salty.
00:54:10.720 Go there.
00:54:11.340 Do it today.
00:54:11.960 Check it out.