Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 588： The National Security Risk That Is The Harris-Biden Administration

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.360 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:19.100 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia

00:00:24.820 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:29.960 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:33.740 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:40.840 stephen k bannon it is the 8th of august in the year of our load 2024 this is war room and I am laura

00:00:51.060 logan filling in for steve bannon who is on day 39 behind bars and is still looking at another 80 days

00:00:59.480 if he is not able to get out any earlier which is something that we should all be talking about it

00:01:06.360 should bother anyone who believes in the first amendment and in freedom of speech and yet it

00:01:11.980 has disappeared from the headlines but it means a lot to me and that's why I'm here to support steve

00:01:17.760 and we have we have a pretty big hour coming up there are some things here breaking news that

00:01:24.460 you have not heard because they have not been reported and for our first guest I'm going to

00:01:29.820 turn straight to dr keith rose who is someone I uh I first met uh during the uh afghan disaster when

00:01:38.420 this administration betrayed our allies in afghanistan and pulled out and handed the country

00:01:43.940 over to the terrorists who were responsible for 9-11 it's hard to imagine uh that the united states

00:01:51.340 government would do that but that's exactly what happened um because the taliban and the haqqani 1.00

00:01:56.660 network al-qaeda all of these people worked together in that attack nobody knows this better than

00:02:02.060 keith rose who was um has worked in the intelligence agencies for the united states government

00:02:07.180 clandestine operative for more than three decades and much of that years in fact spent in afghanistan

00:02:14.420 where uh we uh we overlapped and during that time although we didn't know each other then

00:02:19.620 keith um i know that you have an extensive network across afghanistan and um i want to get straight

00:02:28.140 to uh to the question of what you have learned recently about what has been going on there since uh

00:02:36.580 the u.s pulled out well lord to really understand the complete picture we need to start a year before

00:02:44.180 we pulled out because a year before we pulled out a large delegation of chinese officials military

00:02:52.900 officials diplomatic officials intelligence officials met with the afghan ministry of defense

00:03:00.180 it was a fairly significant meeting they tried to keep it quiet but we had some people that were

00:03:05.940 around during that time and we noticed it but we we weren't on the inside of that meeting we're not

00:03:11.540 sure what was said now fast forward from that time to about a week and a half before we left kaya or

00:03:21.620 kabul airfield before we withdrew completely from afghanistan during that week and a half before there was

00:03:29.380 an open source meeting or people knew about a meeting of the director of central intelligence at the time

00:03:35.700 burns was down there meeting with other officials and members of the taliban but i've talked to

00:03:46.260 several people that have intimate knowledge of that meeting and they're telling me or they're asking the

00:03:51.780 question why were there two senior chinese intel officials at that meeting why was siraj haqqani

00:03:59.540 who at the time we had a 10 million dollar bounty from the state department on him at that meeting

00:04:06.820 and the other thing is there was a senior official or senior officer from the irgc the republic the

00:04:14.020 iranian republican guard who was a quds force commander that we're very familiar with from iraq he's a very

00:04:22.260 very competent officer he was there another pakistani official was there and then there was an

00:04:28.900 quote unquote unknown person there that we're still we have an idea but we're trying to figure out who

00:04:33.780 that was and so these folks all met let me let me interrupt you there for one second so for people

00:04:39.940 out there who might be wondering okay why are we talking about afghanistan right now and how does this

00:04:45.780 relate well this this meeting was particularly significant because you're saying you have the

00:04:52.020 head of the cia who is meeting we it was reported at the time that he met with siraj akhani which was

00:04:57.780 staggering because this this guy not only had a bounty on his head but the u.s forces on the ground have

00:05:03.940 been trying to kill him supposedly trying to kill him for you know 20 years and he had the blood of countless

00:05:11.380 americans on his hands not to mention how many afghans and so that meeting was reported they

00:05:17.860 they got away with selling the american public that because at the time it was well these are the people

00:05:23.540 taking over and siraj akhani was the acting minister of interia for the taliban and so security that was

00:05:30.500 needed for the withdrawal was kind of you know within his responsibility right and so that's how they sold

00:05:36.420 that meeting to the american public but what you're saying is according to uh your sources and we i

00:05:44.020 want to ask you more about that but you're saying that it was not only siraj akhani who was at that

00:05:50.180 meeting there were representatives of the chinese communist party and intelligence there were representatives

00:05:56.260 of of the iranian revolutionary gods who you know iran the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the

00:06:02.500 world and the irgc responsible for the deaths of hundreds of american soldiers in iraq and and others

00:06:10.340 so can you just for our audience can you explain the significance uh what does it mean that these

00:06:17.940 people were at a meeting with the head of the cia well and these are the questions that the folks that

00:06:23.860 know about this meeting were asking me and the interesting thing was when they met at that time they did

00:06:29.780 not meet at the typical um the typical area where the cia was on the airfield they met at a completely

00:06:38.580 different site they didn't even use cia personnel for security they were so concerned from what i'm

00:06:46.580 hearing about the people they were meeting with that they used one of our tier one groups for security

00:06:53.460 and they kept them on the outside they weren't allowed to listen in or anything but nothing about this

00:06:59.220 made sense to a lot of different people and so it was really sent to me in a series of questions

00:07:04.100 why would they do this why is it significant this is something you just found out about

00:07:09.700 this is something that they were calling me about we knew about the meeting but then

00:07:14.580 some we've gotten more recent calls and the reason we have is because if you remember after we left

00:07:21.860 afghanistan and after the pullout bagram airfield when we left there first went completely black it was

00:07:30.180 dark and there's varying reports and we have pictures from anywhere from two weeks to up to

00:07:37.300 two months afterwards that we pulled out that lights at bagram airfield were turned back on

00:07:43.780 it was reported on open source and several different overseas news sources but my the people that were

00:07:51.460 there said they landed to the two large chinese transport planes landed with troops and secured that

00:08:00.420 area that's what is being reported now i don't you know i wasn't there but that's what i've had from

00:08:06.100 several different reports and while all that but keith if we can understand how significant is it

00:08:13.140 for the agency to conduct a meeting a high level meeting with the head of u.s intelligence

00:08:19.140 in this manner i mean and what does that what are we supposed to understand from that

00:08:24.420 well that's the thing it's so opaque and it's so shrouded in mystery it wasn't just a meeting of

00:08:32.580 the future government and the leaving intelligence services it was a meeting of the future government

00:08:41.300 other countries intelligence services from the reporting that we're getting

00:08:46.180 the head of our cia so you know i don't know what the significant was the significance was then but i can

00:08:53.860 tell you as of today what the significance is and it yeah tell us about that makes a lot more sense about

00:09:00.020 that meeting now when you understand today because today china has engaged in basically a cut price

00:09:06.580 rapid expansion zone of influence in afghanistan and i'll explain why this is so important

00:09:13.860 we spent a lot of money in that country and left the footprint there the chinese came in for less than 1.00

00:09:19.860 pennies on the dollar took over and have expanded into the military security and intelligence networks in the

00:09:28.660 taliban they're actively working in all of these and providing their own officers to the taliban security

00:09:37.620 apparatus at the same time they're doing independent espionage against targets of interest to china

00:09:44.740 they're securing the all the primary commodity supplies of the country by acquiring exclusive extraction

00:09:51.380 rights for key minerals that are very important to them they have other investments in trade and

00:09:56.740 they've reoriented the entire infrastructure and communication links towards china meaning they can

00:10:03.940 hear everything and another thing is they're networking and co-opting targeting influence figures in the

00:10:10.500 taliban and i have some sources very deep right keith let me ask you something a lot of americans might

00:10:17.460 say okay so you know you got a bunch of taliban that are working with the chinese like why do i care how

00:10:22.980 does this relate to me well it relates to you because the taliban suraj haqqani in particular these are all

00:10:32.260 individuals known to work with terrorist organizations they've been able to

00:10:39.140 develop over the past several years we're in year three several hundreds of madrasas training future

00:10:46.660 jihadis not just future these are not the normal madrasas that are attached to you know every mosque

00:10:53.140 in afghanistan these are actual terrorist training madrasas right madrasas that train people on small

00:11:00.740 arms tactics on bomb making on basic intelligence tradecraft and we know for a fact because we have

00:11:10.900 several assets in all over afghanistan that they graduated this year was their largest graduating

00:11:17.140 class from all the madrasas and these are for what they would call jihadis guys that were going to go

00:11:24.260 and fight the holy war and they said they had over 70 000 graduates from these madrasas now add that on top of

00:11:33.620 their ability and technical know how that they're getting from the chinese and you got to understand

00:11:40.820 we we look at the what the taliban are bringing in financially in this past year they brought in 2.7

00:11:47.860 billion dollars and that was a combination from their oil fields around sarapul from their different

00:11:54.820 trade agreements from the drug trade and from other you know various things that they're doing to bring

00:12:02.660 in money and they're also taxing and going very hard against their own citizens and i had someone

00:12:09.220 talk to me who was in a meeting with the chinese and the hakanis and he said it was very interesting

00:12:14.020 because one of the hakanis and the family related to him we don't agree on religion but we agree on a

00:12:20.340 lot of practical things because they they don't care about social justice they said the western countries

00:12:27.940 this is direct quote in the report the western countries are so worried about people's rights

00:12:33.940 and the chinese don't concern themselves with such things and we can get along with them

00:12:39.860 so keith i mean this is an election year we have a candidate running for office that was the border czar

00:12:45.780 and has presided over effectively an open border and when you're talking about this with the china i mean

00:12:52.660 about 70 000 jihadis graduating from terrorist training in afghanistan and we know that there the

00:13:02.500 numbers of people on the terror watch list alone that have crossed the southern border under this

00:13:07.620 administration is through the roof right in in your three decades in working in intelligence have you

00:13:15.460 ever seen anything like this and can you can you give us a sense of what concerns you most when you

00:13:22.980 look at that open border and you look at uh the infiltration of everyone from afghans to chinese to 0.98

00:13:29.620 venezuelans and so on and how and how what you're learning about in afghanistan plays into that

00:13:37.140 the afghanis and the chinese and have have been so penetrated by china and they're getting so much

00:13:44.740 technical advice but they're also getting a lot of intelligence advice and the chinese are using

00:13:50.820 the afghans to affect things in pakistan and in other with other regional actors but the significance

00:13:57.940 of what you just said lara is that basically the afghans have the ability through their passport office

00:14:06.420 to create biometric passports and when people come to afghanistan to train

00:14:13.220 they will then get documentation that will allow them to travel to say a country like turkey and

00:14:21.780 then from turkey they can go to countries in south america and then they can start the trek

00:14:27.460 forward to the united states now this isn't conjecture because we have placed people and had

00:14:32.980 them follow these exact same routes and we have these marked out very clearly so you have a a country that

00:14:41.860 is not shrinking after we left it but has expanded their capabilities to export people for terroristic

00:14:52.740 or terrorist type operations or just infiltration operations and they have the ability to give them

00:14:59.460 the documentation to do that now one of the things that really struck me i gave you some pictures i'm

00:15:05.380 have you put them up in a second but the chinese i have a thick report on the chinese and how deep

00:15:10.900 they're penetrated into afghanistan they're at all areas they're working with the military they're

00:15:16.260 watching these madrasas and they and the interesting thing is the afghans are saying we're we'll help the 0.98

00:15:23.300 chinese do their do their one china expansion or the silk road or whatever they're trying to do they have no 1.00

00:15:30.820 problem with that and both sides are also side dealing and working for their own benefit but

00:15:37.220 the chinese have watched the afghans grow economically militarily and with the ability to project power in

00:15:47.620 a regional area that they have now done something that we've never seen in the history of either

00:15:53.300 country you can put up the first picture this is the walking corridor that little white and green post

00:16:00.900 is the border between afghanistan and china it's a very small area remote area right in the middle

00:16:07.940 of nowhere there is nothing for hundreds of miles of any significance if you wanted to go up there you

00:16:14.100 had to go up there in a four-wheel drive i've been there and you the people around there have been there

00:16:18.980 forever and it's just it's a very calm area there's no commerce there's no transportation there's

00:16:25.300 nothing it's just in basically in the middle of the the most remote area in both countries and this

00:16:33.940 is taken in the summer you can still see the snow-capped mountains set up at a high altitude

00:16:38.180 this is an area that has looked like that for centuries and has never changed since china has had

00:16:45.060 great genghis khan you name it all of them there's never been anything there now that china has 0.89

00:16:51.700 thoroughly penetrated into afghanistan they understand the significance and the buildup

00:16:59.220 in afghanistan and their ability to push out terrorists to other areas and you can go to the

00:17:05.700 next slide so basically they know the the danger of the terrorist threat that they've created

00:17:11.700 is so significant that they've been part of i mean we we can probably take a little credit for that

00:17:17.380 by leaving 80 billion dollars of of itar and other technology that they shouldn't have but

00:17:24.260 now if you look at that area there's the security fence put up by china it's to keep people from

00:17:32.100 coming across and the irony is coming across right so they china's never put this fence up they didn't 0.99

00:17:40.180 have it up when the russians were in afghanistan they never put the fence up when the taliban took over

00:17:46.340 from the russians and they never put it up when we were there but evidently something has changed

00:17:51.380 inside the country that has made the chinese feel they need to protect themselves from incursion

00:17:58.100 or unknown incursion from afghanistan and this is this this is just unprecedented on any level

00:18:06.660 and the irony is that our borders are wide open to people from afghanistan and other countries

00:18:13.940 that may not have our best interests at heart and china is actually locking down their border 0.52

00:18:20.500 with afghanistan so keith you you touched on what we left behind in afghanistan and you also raised

00:18:26.340 something there that you just you just went sailing past it biometric passports right this is not an

00:18:33.300 insignificant thing i i know because i was working um on getting hundreds of people out of afghanistan

00:18:39.460 during uh the with the chaotic withdrawal i know you were working on similar things at that time and

00:18:45.300 and that's how we got to know each other and um one of the things that has always um concerned me

00:18:51.700 that has been brought to my um attention by afghan intelligence sources confirmed by others american sources

00:18:59.620 is that we left behind the um the biometric database that the united states had amassed over years in afghanistan

00:19:10.180 i was on operations many operations where there were people entering the biometrics of uh of terrorists

00:19:16.660 arrested into that database and we not only left behind the equipment we left behind the personnel

00:19:22.900 i mean we just abandoned them in afghanistan and uh it's my understanding from afghan intelligence sources

00:19:29.460 that the uh taliban has used that effectively to alter the biometrics of some of these terrorists 0.87

00:19:35.940 graduating as you say from you know these terrorist training facilities and so now if they can issue

00:19:41.940 passports they can issue their own passports with uh new identities right altered biometrics for these

00:19:48.820 terrorists who won't show up on any terrorist database when they cross the southern border i mean

00:19:53.540 they can not only come across illegally but they can also fly in well when any when we left afghanistan

00:20:00.820 or when you leave any theater of operations during a war or some type of kinetic event when intelligence

00:20:08.420 services leave we have something called a burndown where you have to destroy every document every

00:20:14.660 piece of equipment that you can't take back there's machines we call grinders that you could literally

00:20:19.780 stick a bowling ball in and it would just render it you know mush and so we didn't destroy things that we

00:20:27.620 were supposed to destroy and it's my thought that we probably didn't destroy some things that we

00:20:33.380 said we destroyed so not only did we leave behind biometric equipment but the intelligence services are

00:20:40.340 responsible for setting up the passport office let's just say documentation stamps and things like that

00:20:48.340 and there's been several questions asked did we leave certain pieces of equipment that would be used in a

00:20:55.700 passport office to authenticate passports behind and my understanding and from what i've been

00:21:01.380 discovering is we did and when we do that it gives validity to passports being made in afghanistan

00:21:09.220 and then when you have a country very close like turkey where they can go to turkey on a visa

00:21:14.180 and a lot of different things can happen ultimately you have someone traveling and we don't quite know who

00:21:21.940 they are now that's not a big problem at our southern border because we don't care who anyone is

00:21:26.980 but what we've done is we have opened the door in the united states not only just from a physical

00:21:35.460 security standpoint but undermining the populace with people that don't that haven't been brought into 1.00

00:21:43.220 our country that share our same ideals that understand the founding of our country understand our

00:21:49.140 constitution and you don't have to look far to see where that's playing out right now just look in

00:21:54.180 europe at the riots in england and other places so it it doesn't make a lot of sense but again i'm

00:22:00.660 going to take you back to that meeting with the dci burns chinese officials pakistani officials

00:22:08.820 iraqi officials you have basically a gathering of america's enemies by the way that's what you're

00:22:15.060 talking about right gathering of america's enemies at a critical moment in a country that has become

00:22:21.780 a terrorist training facility that is that has incredible backing from uh people like the chinese 1.00

00:22:30.260 communist party who we know have also infiltrated people across the southern border in record numbers

00:22:36.580 well and i and i look at it like this basically the way we left was humiliating and we left so much

00:22:46.020 behind and we left this obvious vacuum um it's more like a thucydides trap where we left a huge vacuum and

00:22:55.940 another power like china stepped in now china didn't have to come into afghanistan but they will take the 0.98

00:23:03.300 rare earth minerals they will use them as proxies where they can have layers in between what they

00:23:10.340 actually want to do and more importantly in the standings of the world that looks like we turned

00:23:15.460 and ran and china came in and stood strong so it gives them a lot of face a lot and that's very

00:23:22.260 important to save face in the chinese culture and it made america in the afghan culture it's almost like

00:23:29.700 the chinese and our enemies planned out the worst way we could exit along with the head of our cia now 1.00

00:23:37.780 that might have been a stretch before but look what's happening to president trump right now he's not in

00:23:42.980 an ideological battle he's he's being attacked by a well-oiled information operation or intelligence

00:23:53.460 operation and that's what he's up against and you know that's a whole nother show but what you're

00:23:59.540 seeing is we're seeing intelligence officials not acting in the best interest of our nation and

00:24:05.220 that's unfortunate because there's a lot of folks former intelligence officials that love this country

00:24:10.900 and there's a big group of us that have banded together to keep things intact praying that president

00:24:16.660 trump is re-elected so that he'll have something to work with as he has to rebuild the infrastructure

00:24:24.100 not only of the government and how it's been eroded but also our basic intelligence services because

00:24:30.500 right now i believe we're blind around the world or it's a willful blindness and either way it's not

00:24:38.500 serving the people of the united states the way they should be because i'm sorry to interrupt you

00:24:45.860 before we run out of time here i just i just want people to understand obviously i know that you

00:24:51.780 are more comfortable working in the shadows that's where you spent most of your career but why should

00:24:57.460 people believe you first of all i mean this is from from a meeting like that the national security

00:25:03.060 implications of that are absolutely catastrophic and hopefully someone in this country will stand up

00:25:10.020 and start asking questions about that so we get an answer there but not only that right i mean

00:25:15.780 people will come after you for what you're laying out here because uh this this can potentially

00:25:21.060 affect every single person in this country the the danger that this exposes ordinary americans to

00:25:27.940 in any american city at this point um it is cannot be overstated and and so can you give us a sense you

00:25:37.220 cannot be the only person that knows this surely there are people in the intelligence agencies in this

00:25:42.820 administration there have to be people in this country today that know this and is anybody doing

00:25:48.340 anything about it well most of my reporting goes into central reporting is put into the system so

00:25:56.180 i'm sure what i know other people know um you have open source on july 25th when you had hanafi the

00:26:04.580 deputy prime minister of the taliban in a meeting with the deputy minister of culture and tourism for china

00:26:10.820 in kabul that's open source on july 28th you have siraj haqqani the interior minister of the taliban that

00:26:18.100 i believe we possibly still have a bounty on his head he met with the chinese ambassador in kabul

00:26:24.100 and expressed quote unquote satisfaction with the dealings now this is open source this is in the news

00:26:30.340 or in the news that's printed where maybe our new sources don't want to talk about but the two sides

00:26:38.020 emphasized their desire for regional stability yet afghanistan's growing to a point to destabilize

00:26:44.980 not only their region but regions beyond their grasp okay dr keith rose we have to leave it there we

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00:30:39.780 handle the truth war room battleground with stephen k bannon welcome back everybody this is the war room

00:30:49.700 steve bannon 39 days in jail and still counting okay so i'm going to just wrap up here with our guest dr

00:30:56.900 keith rose there's a lot to unpack there uh keith this is very very significant and i i would urge

00:31:04.740 people out there um you know you you can do your own reporting but there's a lot of what you're

00:31:09.780 talking about keith you've put it into the system as you say it goes into central reporting so there's

00:31:15.780 no way people in the administration don't know about it but americans are hearing much of this for

00:31:22.180 the first time and so i wonder if you could just you know uh as a take us out quickly with the how

00:31:27.700 you see this playing out right now in the election given that you know how long has it been since

00:31:33.700 anyone in this country has actually seen biden i mean he's he's been missing in action not just for

00:31:40.100 the last three and a half years for much of the time but um especially in the last few weeks and what

00:31:47.220 how does that play into the situation that you're talking about where it seems like our adversaries

00:31:52.580 from uh you know from the chinese to the to the afghan uh terrorist army really is what you're

00:31:59.140 describing how does it play out that we have basically a president that is non-functional um by

00:32:06.260 anyone's standards you know lara i have a different take on this i think that biden is probably functional

00:32:13.460 for five to six hours a day early in the morning from watching him as a physician and a surgeon i

00:32:19.780 think he sundowns but i don't think any democrat leader is in control in the singular they usually

00:32:29.620 work in the aggregate and there's a to use about lack of a better word a cabal of people that are

00:32:36.420 moving and strategizing and what to do in the white house i think that starts with anita dunn

00:32:42.580 who was in the white house i think she's running kamala's campaign now but all you have to do is

00:32:47.540 look at what their overarching goals are their overarching goals are not benefiting the united

00:32:54.820 states of america they're benefiting the maintaining of personal and group power and the way you maintain

00:33:03.060 personal and group power throughout the ages is to have strong intelligence assets that can do

00:33:10.820 the correct propaganda information operation or covert action yuri bezmanoff talked a lot about this

00:33:18.500 to control the levers of power and keep who they want in power and that's what president trump is up

00:33:26.020 against and quite frankly that's why people are so afraid because when president trump comes back into

00:33:32.820 office i pray that he does and we have fair and honest elections then the people that are doing this

00:33:41.860 can be brought to task because intelligence mainly foreign intelligence and a lot of intelligence agencies are all

00:33:48.740 under title 50 and president trump are the executive branches in charge of title 50 and i'm not even

00:33:56.900 sure president trump was briefed on all his title 50 authorities prior to taking office so folks like me that

00:34:04.180 sit back and look at this from 100 000 feet see a well-oiled well-executed intelligence operation and

00:34:13.620 as my prayer that whistleblowers will come forward that are already in these different areas and speak

00:34:20.420 the truth we're starting to see it more in the secret service by what happened in the assassination attempt

00:34:25.700 but it's going to take someone that their conscience just pushes them forward it's what pushed me forward

00:34:30.660 it's what pushed a lot of my brothers forward who walked away from what we were doing because we saw

00:34:37.220 that it wasn't for the better betterment of our nation but it was for personal power group power

00:34:45.540 and the united states really wasn't taken into consideration and that's why i think we're having the troubles

00:34:50.100 we are but i do believe there's people out there that can help the president if he gets back in office

00:34:55.700 make this country great again well i know what steve bannon would say if he was sitting here he

00:35:03.300 would uh he would thank you for what you're doing and he would ask you to keep pushing forward right

00:35:08.020 because there's very little time left and the i mean what you have laid out here keith is of such

00:35:14.660 significance um it's going to take it's going to take a lot for people to work their way through it but

00:35:19.860 um i just want to thank you for i i know that this comes at personal risk and this is a time where

00:35:26.100 people do need to stand up and be counted right because um you can't stand on the shores watching

00:35:32.420 this nation drown and hope that somebody else is going to take care of the problem right and do it for

00:35:37.460 you that's not that's not going to get us forward that's going to get us in a much bigger hole i was i

00:35:43.860 went into the white house in 2017 when or when steve bannon was there and he kept trying to take

00:35:49.940 me up to brief president trump and it was amazing every time he would take me from the west wing up

00:35:55.300 to the oval office someone managed to make a phone call and run president trump out of the office on

00:36:00.660 something important and that's how you know it's an intelligence operation because they're managing

00:36:06.500 everybody and they're preventing the information to get to the decision makers because all we do

00:36:12.820 intelligence is a formal report all we do is provide information based on atmospherics what we

00:36:18.820 hear relationships we have and i just pray that enough people come forward to really do what they

00:36:26.900 can to stop the craziness and the destruction of our nation because i do believe our best days are ahead

00:36:34.820 of us if people will step up well we're going to stay on top of this keith and we'll definitely have

00:36:40.020 you back on thank you so much for joining us on the rule room war room i want to turn now to our next

00:36:45.460 guest amon blair who is a senior fellow with the texas public policy foundation he's a former

00:36:51.380 intelligence analyst for the united states army and also for many many years a border patrol agent down

00:36:59.140 on the southern border who has seen firsthand exactly how this administration's open border policy

00:37:04.740 is playing out someone i've also known for um many years uh during my years of reporting down on the

00:37:10.580 border and um amon what i want to put to you i i know you were listening there to dr rose and i have

00:37:17.460 a feeling that there was something particular that was resonating with with you which is that china's

00:37:24.900 system of backing the afghan terror state is not confined just to afghanistan they have been doing the same

00:37:32.820 thing with the venezuelan cartels and the venezuelan government trying to aragua and i know you've

00:37:37.860 been tracking that can you uh can you give us a sense of what that relationship looks like and what

00:37:44.740 does it mean right now for people in this country um who are looking at a border that you know this is an

00:37:52.260 issue that touches every american and it is the number one issue for voters voters uh according to many

00:37:58.740 different polls but also to many different uh voters that i've spoken to so can you lay it out from your

00:38:04.020 perspective for us sure um i'd like to go back into a little like history a little bit um so really it

00:38:11.540 kind of started when hugo chavez uh formed an alliance with iran and cuba um in his bolivarian revolution

00:38:20.500 back in the late 90s and uh fast forward that he uh he spread that revolution through south america and

00:38:26.740 the caribbean and then he um uh kind of turned that strategy into an asymmetric warfare strategy

00:38:36.420 and that was with venezuela itself and also russia uh iran already in there and then also china

00:38:43.860 um so now venezuela is kind of a hub go ahead it's just incredible if americans think that you know

00:38:51.780 while sort of sleepy joe has been in the white house that our adversaries have been sitting back

00:38:57.540 just you know allowing america to destroy itself and they haven't been capitalizing on that it's

00:39:02.260 like a party out there right it's like a party of of everyone who hates america and has the ability

00:39:08.180 to destroy this country if they work together and using asymmetric warfare which is basically

00:39:13.700 unrestricted warfare right um it sounds uh like we've been asleep at the wheel

00:39:19.220 it's been for a long time um so really if you look at what's been happening at the southern border

00:39:25.940 in terms of venezuelan apprehensions uh we can see that a lot of venezuelans really uh weren't coming

00:39:31.220 to the us in 2017 we only apprehended around 2600 uh venezuelans fast forward that to uh fy 2023 we

00:39:42.100 apprehended 334 000 so we know that lord so we know that the uh the venezuelans they were fleeing

00:39:49.780 because uh of course after hugo chavez died maduro came in and then we saw that massive migration outside

00:39:56.580 of venezuela um and and so they were fleeing but they were fleeing to other south american countries

00:40:02.340 um and then also what people don't realize is they were also fleeing to

00:40:06.020 um syria um in fact you have more uh venezuelans you have over 300 000 venezuelans in syria uh than

00:40:14.740 you do in brazil um so that's kind of a a fun fact but so you mentioned earlier train de aragua

00:40:21.700 well when those uh venezuelans were fleeing um there was a transnational criminal organization that

00:40:28.740 was built out of a prison system that was beat was able to be built because it was backed by maduro

00:40:34.740 and uh that was train de aragua so they built their and so that's what it means when we hear in the

00:40:40.260 news that venezuela has emptied its prisons actually what they're referring to is they have emptied the

00:40:46.500 prison of the cartel that that they pretty much grew inside their prison system and dispatched them 0.79

00:40:52.900 to the united states right yes ma'am so they they made like some sort of like political theater they

00:41:00.660 came in in venezuela because train de aragua started making international news so they stated they went

00:41:06.020 in there and took the leadership of train de aragua out but it was all just complete theater nothing

00:41:13.220 really actually happened other than now their leaders are in in hiding um and now they're spreading

00:41:19.220 worldwide so train de aragua they built their entire enterprise like i said off the backs of over

00:41:24.500 eight million venezuelans leaving the country and so they built it off those smuggling networks

00:41:29.300 those smuggling networks uh found themselves up to the united states because of uh the biden regime's

00:41:35.700 policies of open borders and and uh so based off that the the train de aragua they needed to

00:41:43.860 they they needed a way into the united states and the only way they could get here was off the

00:41:50.900 infrastructure and the pipelines that were already created and that's going to be the mexican cartels 0.98

00:41:55.220 so train de aragua the reason why they are in every single one of your communities that's why we're

00:42:00.420 seeing such violence whether that is in new york or chicago or other areas like in dallas because those

00:42:07.940 that infrastructure had already been set by the mexican cartels and in fact train de aragua uh

00:42:14.180 recently uh forged an alliance with cjng uh cartel jalisco new generation the most violent of the mexican 0.95

00:42:20.580 cartels yes ma'am the most violent and what's the role of china in and working alongside uh both

00:42:27.540 the venezuelan and mexican cartels well they our constitution and our constitutional republic is

00:42:34.420 their greatest threat so they see that um that the mexican cartels really already built a silk road for 0.89

00:42:44.660 for them for the ccp and for their nefarious activities into every one of our communities 1.00

00:42:50.660 they don't they didn't need a belt and road initiative uh when the mexican cartels already 0.95

00:42:55.140 built that for them um and so the chinese have weaponized the mexican cartels and used them as proxies 0.87

00:43:02.900 in their unrestricted warfare on the united states and so whether that's even

00:43:08.420 okay i i want to um i want to bring in now our other guest george pon i want you to stay with us if you can

00:43:14.020 um because what you're talking about uh has been captured in a in a in a book that george is involved

00:43:20.580 with george has been in policy he's a texan and he's been looking at this issue along with author uh

00:43:26.500 dr richard funk um who is a close friend of his and um and richard funk has written a fictional novel

00:43:33.940 which is about a the chinese and the mexican cartels working together and an october 7th style

00:43:40.660 invasion of the u.s something that is certainly possible when you have effectively an open border

00:43:47.380 and um and so i want to bring in george because um it's kind of extraordinary to me that um

00:43:54.420 that you saw what was happening from your perspective george you saw that this was coming

00:44:00.740 and you're trying to uh reach out across political lines using you know a fictional novel to get people

00:44:08.180 to pay attention to this can you tell us can you tell us about this book and can you tell us why

00:44:13.940 this book matters right now in your view okay thank you well uh i am not the author dr richard funk is

00:44:21.620 the author uh but he's a friend of mine and the name of the book is cartel wars uh the consequence of

00:44:29.060 america's open policy on the border and um four years ago uh we we go to church together and he

00:44:39.220 had written this incredible uh uh transcript about an invasion uh on our border from from mexico and it

00:44:47.300 included the cartels in china and uh but fast forward to uh october 7th uh i have friends in israel

00:44:55.940 and i've been very much involved with israel and when i saw what happened there uh when when for

00:45:01.780 example the the idf is one of the best armies uh that we have on the in the world um they have one

00:45:07.700 of the best intelligence agencies the massad and and and they were taken aback i mean they were invaded

00:45:14.660 and it was a low-tech kind of invasion and they and and the hamas are proxies to uh for from iran so

00:45:22.100 that there's not much difference between what we're faced right now uh with china utilizing the

00:45:28.660 cartels the the fiction of this book really deals with an actual invasion in texas it it's it's fiction

00:45:36.020 but it deals with real uh landmarks it deals with a an invasion where they take over austin and the

00:45:44.260 governor has to flee uh but the end of the book is one that i don't want to say the whole thing about

00:45:50.660 it but it ends on a good note but it has to do with the resilience and the courage of americans

00:45:58.820 making their stand and that's important so really what you're talking about is this is a novel that

00:46:06.580 has captured what this alliance between the chinese and the mexican cartels really means and dr richard

00:46:13.940 funk i believe worked as a um a senior policy uh person for two administrations in the state of texas

00:46:21.940 governor george bush when he was there and governor rick perry and i know that that the book is is um

00:46:28.260 really closely based on real characters and as much from his experience but um you know i want to i

00:46:34.500 want to put it to you i want to bring back um amon blair if i can here and just ask him amon you know

00:46:40.100 is this the kind of thing what is your concern as someone you know who's worn the uniform for

00:46:45.620 the u.s fought in foreign wars abroad and also been on the front line of what is happening on the

00:46:52.100 southern border but now being in the policy side of this where you've had a chance to really dig deep

00:46:57.940 into the extent of this relationship and what it means is what is your concern can you tell people

00:47:05.060 uh how they should understand this sure uh the front line is no longer on our back door at the

00:47:14.180 border it's at your front door it's in your yard and sometimes unless unfortunately if you have a

00:47:20.500 family member that died from a fentanyl uh poisoning um the ccp is in your home and so unfortunately

00:47:30.020 operation red dawn i mean not operation red dawn but the movie red dawn um where we saw the chinese

00:47:36.260 invade unfortunately we've been under an invasion for a long time they are here um but our limited

00:47:43.780 concept or understanding of what war is a lot of times americans think or that the term war means that

00:47:51.060 it's kinetic action that it's guns and tanks and bombs when the chinese have been invading us and 1.00

00:47:58.660 they've been setting the stage or what we know in military as phase zero operations for kinetic

00:48:04.820 action later down the road but right now they're already decimating our our cities and communities

00:48:09.780 through drug warfare they're already decimating our uh our moral decency through uh sex trafficking uh

00:48:18.420 through espionage through intelligence sharing uh they already have access to our critical infrastructure

00:48:25.380 through transformers through you name it they're invading through human smuggling warfare on our 1.00

00:48:31.220 southern border uh thousands upon thousands of chinese illegal aliens are entering into the united

00:48:37.140 states and and so the invasion has been going on for such a long time that even director uh ray has been

00:48:44.180 stating that it's not if but when something kinetic is going to happen um and so we continue to look for

00:48:50.500 more kinetic at the at the same time as we are completely blind uh to what is actually non-kinetic

00:48:58.100 what is actually happening right in front of us and we're just not making that leap

00:49:03.380 okay so we're almost out of time here i want to throw it back to george very quickly george what do you

00:49:08.660 think this means for the election i want to tell everybody um cartel wars is the book and dr richard

00:49:16.100 funk is the author and uh george is his teammate can you you tell us i know you've been very involved in

00:49:22.420 in trying to get this out to people and trying to get them to pay attention to this issue what do you

00:49:27.940 think it means for the election tell us very quickly before we close well i'm concerned that

00:49:34.420 before the election we're so vulnerable right now uh the in the united states we're about ready to have

00:49:41.060 a major war in the middle east uh we've been surrounded uh for for a long time uh for example

00:49:49.860 the russians have moved their assets into the caribbean uh the chinese and the russians have been uh

00:49:58.100 operating off alaska with their uh supersonic bombs bombers um and and if there would ever be a time for

00:50:07.780 an invasion to take place on taiwan uh with our dysfunctional political system and who knows is

00:50:16.180 really running the white house right now we're we could be in a major war okay well um this is

00:50:25.460 something that's certainly on um on the minds of many people across this country right now especially

00:50:31.060 with the lack of real leadership in the white house at what is um a critical time in this nation's

00:50:37.540 history and um it's kind of like the worst nightmare for anybody to see the mexican cartels venezuelan 0.98

00:50:44.980 cartels backed by corrupt regime working together with the chinese communist party i can't think of

00:50:50.500 a more dangerous scenario for this country and for our national security amen you have 30 seconds to

00:50:56.740 close us out because you are one of the smartest people i know

00:51:02.340 i guess to close this out really um is just first and foremost i'd probably listen to everything

00:51:06.740 that lair says on our social media and follow everyone else uh in order for us to uh handle or

00:51:13.060 counter this threat is to actually understand what this actually happened and the only way to do that

00:51:18.100 is by uh parsing through all the massive amount of information and understand that a majority of

00:51:23.780 people have agendas uh lair does not um so the only way that us as americans that can actually go ahead

00:51:29.620 and do something is by one informed getting us ourselves informed and then informing our uh

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Bannon's War Room - August 08, 2024

WarRoom Battleground EP 588： The National Security Risk That Is The Harris-Biden Administration

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