WarRoom Battleground EP 588： The National Security Risk That Is The Harris-Biden Administration
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Dr. Keith R. Rose has worked in the intelligence agencies for the U.S. government for more than 30 years, and spent much of that time in Afghanistan. He has been a member of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSC) for over 20 years. Dr. R. has been involved in the fight against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan for decades, and he is one of the few people with intimate knowledge of the events that took place at the time of the 9/11 attacks.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon it is the 8th of august in the year of our load 2024 this is war room and I am laura
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logan filling in for steve bannon who is on day 39 behind bars and is still looking at another 80 days
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if he is not able to get out any earlier which is something that we should all be talking about it
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should bother anyone who believes in the first amendment and in freedom of speech and yet it
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has disappeared from the headlines but it means a lot to me and that's why I'm here to support steve
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and we have we have a pretty big hour coming up there are some things here breaking news that
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you have not heard because they have not been reported and for our first guest I'm going to
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turn straight to dr keith rose who is someone I uh I first met uh during the uh afghan disaster when
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this administration betrayed our allies in afghanistan and pulled out and handed the country
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over to the terrorists who were responsible for 9-11 it's hard to imagine uh that the united states
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government would do that but that's exactly what happened um because the taliban and the haqqani
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network al-qaeda all of these people worked together in that attack nobody knows this better than
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keith rose who was um has worked in the intelligence agencies for the united states government
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clandestine operative for more than three decades and much of that years in fact spent in afghanistan
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where uh we uh we overlapped and during that time although we didn't know each other then
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keith um i know that you have an extensive network across afghanistan and um i want to get straight
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to uh to the question of what you have learned recently about what has been going on there since uh
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the u.s pulled out well lord to really understand the complete picture we need to start a year before
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we pulled out because a year before we pulled out a large delegation of chinese officials military
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officials diplomatic officials intelligence officials met with the afghan ministry of defense
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it was a fairly significant meeting they tried to keep it quiet but we had some people that were
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around during that time and we noticed it but we we weren't on the inside of that meeting we're not
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sure what was said now fast forward from that time to about a week and a half before we left kaya or
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kabul airfield before we withdrew completely from afghanistan during that week and a half before there was
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an open source meeting or people knew about a meeting of the director of central intelligence at the time
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burns was down there meeting with other officials and members of the taliban but i've talked to
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several people that have intimate knowledge of that meeting and they're telling me or they're asking the
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question why were there two senior chinese intel officials at that meeting why was siraj haqqani
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who at the time we had a 10 million dollar bounty from the state department on him at that meeting
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and the other thing is there was a senior official or senior officer from the irgc the republic the
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iranian republican guard who was a quds force commander that we're very familiar with from iraq he's a very
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very competent officer he was there another pakistani official was there and then there was an
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quote unquote unknown person there that we're still we have an idea but we're trying to figure out who
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that was and so these folks all met let me let me interrupt you there for one second so for people
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out there who might be wondering okay why are we talking about afghanistan right now and how does this
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relate well this this meeting was particularly significant because you're saying you have the
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head of the cia who is meeting we it was reported at the time that he met with siraj akhani which was
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staggering because this this guy not only had a bounty on his head but the u.s forces on the ground have
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been trying to kill him supposedly trying to kill him for you know 20 years and he had the blood of countless
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americans on his hands not to mention how many afghans and so that meeting was reported they
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they got away with selling the american public that because at the time it was well these are the people
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taking over and siraj akhani was the acting minister of interia for the taliban and so security that was
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needed for the withdrawal was kind of you know within his responsibility right and so that's how they sold
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that meeting to the american public but what you're saying is according to uh your sources and we i
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want to ask you more about that but you're saying that it was not only siraj akhani who was at that
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meeting there were representatives of the chinese communist party and intelligence there were representatives
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of of the iranian revolutionary gods who you know iran the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the
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world and the irgc responsible for the deaths of hundreds of american soldiers in iraq and and others
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so can you just for our audience can you explain the significance uh what does it mean that these
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people were at a meeting with the head of the cia well and these are the questions that the folks that
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know about this meeting were asking me and the interesting thing was when they met at that time they did
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not meet at the typical um the typical area where the cia was on the airfield they met at a completely
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different site they didn't even use cia personnel for security they were so concerned from what i'm
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hearing about the people they were meeting with that they used one of our tier one groups for security
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and they kept them on the outside they weren't allowed to listen in or anything but nothing about this
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made sense to a lot of different people and so it was really sent to me in a series of questions
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why would they do this why is it significant this is something you just found out about
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this is something that they were calling me about we knew about the meeting but then
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some we've gotten more recent calls and the reason we have is because if you remember after we left
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afghanistan and after the pullout bagram airfield when we left there first went completely black it was
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dark and there's varying reports and we have pictures from anywhere from two weeks to up to
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two months afterwards that we pulled out that lights at bagram airfield were turned back on
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it was reported on open source and several different overseas news sources but my the people that were
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there said they landed to the two large chinese transport planes landed with troops and secured that
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area that's what is being reported now i don't you know i wasn't there but that's what i've had from
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several different reports and while all that but keith if we can understand how significant is it
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for the agency to conduct a meeting a high level meeting with the head of u.s intelligence
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in this manner i mean and what does that what are we supposed to understand from that
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well that's the thing it's so opaque and it's so shrouded in mystery it wasn't just a meeting of
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the future government and the leaving intelligence services it was a meeting of the future government
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other countries intelligence services from the reporting that we're getting
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the head of our cia so you know i don't know what the significant was the significance was then but i can
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tell you as of today what the significance is and it yeah tell us about that makes a lot more sense about
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that meeting now when you understand today because today china has engaged in basically a cut price
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rapid expansion zone of influence in afghanistan and i'll explain why this is so important
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we spent a lot of money in that country and left the footprint there the chinese came in for less than
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pennies on the dollar took over and have expanded into the military security and intelligence networks in the
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taliban they're actively working in all of these and providing their own officers to the taliban security
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apparatus at the same time they're doing independent espionage against targets of interest to china
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they're securing the all the primary commodity supplies of the country by acquiring exclusive extraction
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rights for key minerals that are very important to them they have other investments in trade and
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they've reoriented the entire infrastructure and communication links towards china meaning they can
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hear everything and another thing is they're networking and co-opting targeting influence figures in the
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taliban and i have some sources very deep right keith let me ask you something a lot of americans might
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say okay so you know you got a bunch of taliban that are working with the chinese like why do i care how
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does this relate to me well it relates to you because the taliban suraj haqqani in particular these are all
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individuals known to work with terrorist organizations they've been able to
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develop over the past several years we're in year three several hundreds of madrasas training future
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jihadis not just future these are not the normal madrasas that are attached to you know every mosque
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in afghanistan these are actual terrorist training madrasas right madrasas that train people on small
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arms tactics on bomb making on basic intelligence tradecraft and we know for a fact because we have
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several assets in all over afghanistan that they graduated this year was their largest graduating
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class from all the madrasas and these are for what they would call jihadis guys that were going to go
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and fight the holy war and they said they had over 70 000 graduates from these madrasas now add that on top of
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their ability and technical know how that they're getting from the chinese and you got to understand
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we we look at the what the taliban are bringing in financially in this past year they brought in 2.7
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billion dollars and that was a combination from their oil fields around sarapul from their different
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trade agreements from the drug trade and from other you know various things that they're doing to bring
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in money and they're also taxing and going very hard against their own citizens and i had someone
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talk to me who was in a meeting with the chinese and the hakanis and he said it was very interesting
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because one of the hakanis and the family related to him we don't agree on religion but we agree on a
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lot of practical things because they they don't care about social justice they said the western countries
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this is direct quote in the report the western countries are so worried about people's rights
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and the chinese don't concern themselves with such things and we can get along with them
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so keith i mean this is an election year we have a candidate running for office that was the border czar
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and has presided over effectively an open border and when you're talking about this with the china i mean
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about 70 000 jihadis graduating from terrorist training in afghanistan and we know that there the
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numbers of people on the terror watch list alone that have crossed the southern border under this
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administration is through the roof right in in your three decades in working in intelligence have you
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ever seen anything like this and can you can you give us a sense of what concerns you most when you
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look at that open border and you look at uh the infiltration of everyone from afghans to chinese to
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venezuelans and so on and how and how what you're learning about in afghanistan plays into that
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the afghanis and the chinese and have have been so penetrated by china and they're getting so much
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technical advice but they're also getting a lot of intelligence advice and the chinese are using
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the afghans to affect things in pakistan and in other with other regional actors but the significance
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of what you just said lara is that basically the afghans have the ability through their passport office
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to create biometric passports and when people come to afghanistan to train
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they will then get documentation that will allow them to travel to say a country like turkey and
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then from turkey they can go to countries in south america and then they can start the trek
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forward to the united states now this isn't conjecture because we have placed people and had
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them follow these exact same routes and we have these marked out very clearly so you have a a country that
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is not shrinking after we left it but has expanded their capabilities to export people for terroristic
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or terrorist type operations or just infiltration operations and they have the ability to give them
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the documentation to do that now one of the things that really struck me i gave you some pictures i'm
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have you put them up in a second but the chinese i have a thick report on the chinese and how deep
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they're penetrated into afghanistan they're at all areas they're working with the military they're
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watching these madrasas and they and the interesting thing is the afghans are saying we're we'll help the
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chinese do their do their one china expansion or the silk road or whatever they're trying to do they have no
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problem with that and both sides are also side dealing and working for their own benefit but
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the chinese have watched the afghans grow economically militarily and with the ability to project power in
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a regional area that they have now done something that we've never seen in the history of either
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country you can put up the first picture this is the walking corridor that little white and green post
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is the border between afghanistan and china it's a very small area remote area right in the middle
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of nowhere there is nothing for hundreds of miles of any significance if you wanted to go up there you
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had to go up there in a four-wheel drive i've been there and you the people around there have been there
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forever and it's just it's a very calm area there's no commerce there's no transportation there's
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nothing it's just in basically in the middle of the the most remote area in both countries and this
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is taken in the summer you can still see the snow-capped mountains set up at a high altitude
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this is an area that has looked like that for centuries and has never changed since china has had
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great genghis khan you name it all of them there's never been anything there now that china has
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thoroughly penetrated into afghanistan they understand the significance and the buildup
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in afghanistan and their ability to push out terrorists to other areas and you can go to the
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next slide so basically they know the the danger of the terrorist threat that they've created
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is so significant that they've been part of i mean we we can probably take a little credit for that
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by leaving 80 billion dollars of of itar and other technology that they shouldn't have but
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now if you look at that area there's the security fence put up by china it's to keep people from
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coming across and the irony is coming across right so they china's never put this fence up they didn't
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have it up when the russians were in afghanistan they never put the fence up when the taliban took over
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from the russians and they never put it up when we were there but evidently something has changed
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inside the country that has made the chinese feel they need to protect themselves from incursion
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or unknown incursion from afghanistan and this is this this is just unprecedented on any level
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and the irony is that our borders are wide open to people from afghanistan and other countries
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that may not have our best interests at heart and china is actually locking down their border
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with afghanistan so keith you you touched on what we left behind in afghanistan and you also raised
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something there that you just you just went sailing past it biometric passports right this is not an
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insignificant thing i i know because i was working um on getting hundreds of people out of afghanistan
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during uh the with the chaotic withdrawal i know you were working on similar things at that time and
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and that's how we got to know each other and um one of the things that has always um concerned me
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that has been brought to my um attention by afghan intelligence sources confirmed by others american sources
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is that we left behind the um the biometric database that the united states had amassed over years in afghanistan
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i was on operations many operations where there were people entering the biometrics of uh of terrorists
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arrested into that database and we not only left behind the equipment we left behind the personnel
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i mean we just abandoned them in afghanistan and uh it's my understanding from afghan intelligence sources
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that the uh taliban has used that effectively to alter the biometrics of some of these terrorists
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graduating as you say from you know these terrorist training facilities and so now if they can issue
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passports they can issue their own passports with uh new identities right altered biometrics for these
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terrorists who won't show up on any terrorist database when they cross the southern border i mean
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they can not only come across illegally but they can also fly in well when any when we left afghanistan
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or when you leave any theater of operations during a war or some type of kinetic event when intelligence
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services leave we have something called a burndown where you have to destroy every document every
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piece of equipment that you can't take back there's machines we call grinders that you could literally
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stick a bowling ball in and it would just render it you know mush and so we didn't destroy things that we
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were supposed to destroy and it's my thought that we probably didn't destroy some things that we
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said we destroyed so not only did we leave behind biometric equipment but the intelligence services are
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responsible for setting up the passport office let's just say documentation stamps and things like that
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and there's been several questions asked did we leave certain pieces of equipment that would be used in a
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passport office to authenticate passports behind and my understanding and from what i've been
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discovering is we did and when we do that it gives validity to passports being made in afghanistan
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and then when you have a country very close like turkey where they can go to turkey on a visa
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and a lot of different things can happen ultimately you have someone traveling and we don't quite know who
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they are now that's not a big problem at our southern border because we don't care who anyone is
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but what we've done is we have opened the door in the united states not only just from a physical
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security standpoint but undermining the populace with people that don't that haven't been brought into
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our country that share our same ideals that understand the founding of our country understand our
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constitution and you don't have to look far to see where that's playing out right now just look in
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europe at the riots in england and other places so it it doesn't make a lot of sense but again i'm
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going to take you back to that meeting with the dci burns chinese officials pakistani officials
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iraqi officials you have basically a gathering of america's enemies by the way that's what you're
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talking about right gathering of america's enemies at a critical moment in a country that has become
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a terrorist training facility that is that has incredible backing from uh people like the chinese
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communist party who we know have also infiltrated people across the southern border in record numbers
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well and i and i look at it like this basically the way we left was humiliating and we left so much
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behind and we left this obvious vacuum um it's more like a thucydides trap where we left a huge vacuum and
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another power like china stepped in now china didn't have to come into afghanistan but they will take the
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rare earth minerals they will use them as proxies where they can have layers in between what they
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actually want to do and more importantly in the standings of the world that looks like we turned
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and ran and china came in and stood strong so it gives them a lot of face a lot and that's very
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important to save face in the chinese culture and it made america in the afghan culture it's almost like
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the chinese and our enemies planned out the worst way we could exit along with the head of our cia now
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that might have been a stretch before but look what's happening to president trump right now he's not in
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an ideological battle he's he's being attacked by a well-oiled information operation or intelligence
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operation and that's what he's up against and you know that's a whole nother show but what you're
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seeing is we're seeing intelligence officials not acting in the best interest of our nation and
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that's unfortunate because there's a lot of folks former intelligence officials that love this country
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and there's a big group of us that have banded together to keep things intact praying that president
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trump is re-elected so that he'll have something to work with as he has to rebuild the infrastructure
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not only of the government and how it's been eroded but also our basic intelligence services because
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right now i believe we're blind around the world or it's a willful blindness and either way it's not
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serving the people of the united states the way they should be because i'm sorry to interrupt you
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before we run out of time here i just i just want people to understand obviously i know that you
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are more comfortable working in the shadows that's where you spent most of your career but why should
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people believe you first of all i mean this is from from a meeting like that the national security
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implications of that are absolutely catastrophic and hopefully someone in this country will stand up
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and start asking questions about that so we get an answer there but not only that right i mean
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people will come after you for what you're laying out here because uh this this can potentially
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affect every single person in this country the the danger that this exposes ordinary americans to
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in any american city at this point um it is cannot be overstated and and so can you give us a sense you
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cannot be the only person that knows this surely there are people in the intelligence agencies in this
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administration there have to be people in this country today that know this and is anybody doing
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anything about it well most of my reporting goes into central reporting is put into the system so
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i'm sure what i know other people know um you have open source on july 25th when you had hanafi the
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deputy prime minister of the taliban in a meeting with the deputy minister of culture and tourism for china
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in kabul that's open source on july 28th you have siraj haqqani the interior minister of the taliban that
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i believe we possibly still have a bounty on his head he met with the chinese ambassador in kabul
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and expressed quote unquote satisfaction with the dealings now this is open source this is in the news
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or in the news that's printed where maybe our new sources don't want to talk about but the two sides
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emphasized their desire for regional stability yet afghanistan's growing to a point to destabilize
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not only their region but regions beyond their grasp okay dr keith rose we have to leave it there we
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handle the truth war room battleground with stephen k bannon welcome back everybody this is the war room
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steve bannon 39 days in jail and still counting okay so i'm going to just wrap up here with our guest dr
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keith rose there's a lot to unpack there uh keith this is very very significant and i i would urge
00:31:04.740
people out there um you know you you can do your own reporting but there's a lot of what you're
00:31:09.780
talking about keith you've put it into the system as you say it goes into central reporting so there's
00:31:15.780
no way people in the administration don't know about it but americans are hearing much of this for
00:31:22.180
the first time and so i wonder if you could just you know uh as a take us out quickly with the how
00:31:27.700
you see this playing out right now in the election given that you know how long has it been since
00:31:33.700
anyone in this country has actually seen biden i mean he's he's been missing in action not just for
00:31:40.100
the last three and a half years for much of the time but um especially in the last few weeks and what
00:31:47.220
how does that play into the situation that you're talking about where it seems like our adversaries
00:31:52.580
from uh you know from the chinese to the to the afghan uh terrorist army really is what you're
00:31:59.140
describing how does it play out that we have basically a president that is non-functional um by
00:32:06.260
anyone's standards you know lara i have a different take on this i think that biden is probably functional
00:32:13.460
for five to six hours a day early in the morning from watching him as a physician and a surgeon i
00:32:19.780
think he sundowns but i don't think any democrat leader is in control in the singular they usually
00:32:29.620
work in the aggregate and there's a to use about lack of a better word a cabal of people that are
00:32:36.420
moving and strategizing and what to do in the white house i think that starts with anita dunn
00:32:42.580
who was in the white house i think she's running kamala's campaign now but all you have to do is
00:32:47.540
look at what their overarching goals are their overarching goals are not benefiting the united
00:32:54.820
states of america they're benefiting the maintaining of personal and group power and the way you maintain
00:33:03.060
personal and group power throughout the ages is to have strong intelligence assets that can do
00:33:10.820
the correct propaganda information operation or covert action yuri bezmanoff talked a lot about this
00:33:18.500
to control the levers of power and keep who they want in power and that's what president trump is up
00:33:26.020
against and quite frankly that's why people are so afraid because when president trump comes back into
00:33:32.820
office i pray that he does and we have fair and honest elections then the people that are doing this
00:33:41.860
can be brought to task because intelligence mainly foreign intelligence and a lot of intelligence agencies are all
00:33:48.740
under title 50 and president trump are the executive branches in charge of title 50 and i'm not even
00:33:56.900
sure president trump was briefed on all his title 50 authorities prior to taking office so folks like me that
00:34:04.180
sit back and look at this from 100 000 feet see a well-oiled well-executed intelligence operation and
00:34:13.620
as my prayer that whistleblowers will come forward that are already in these different areas and speak
00:34:20.420
the truth we're starting to see it more in the secret service by what happened in the assassination attempt
00:34:25.700
but it's going to take someone that their conscience just pushes them forward it's what pushed me forward
00:34:30.660
it's what pushed a lot of my brothers forward who walked away from what we were doing because we saw
00:34:37.220
that it wasn't for the better betterment of our nation but it was for personal power group power
00:34:45.540
and the united states really wasn't taken into consideration and that's why i think we're having the troubles
00:34:50.100
we are but i do believe there's people out there that can help the president if he gets back in office
00:34:55.700
make this country great again well i know what steve bannon would say if he was sitting here he
00:35:03.300
would uh he would thank you for what you're doing and he would ask you to keep pushing forward right
00:35:08.020
because there's very little time left and the i mean what you have laid out here keith is of such
00:35:14.660
significance um it's going to take it's going to take a lot for people to work their way through it but
00:35:19.860
um i just want to thank you for i i know that this comes at personal risk and this is a time where
00:35:26.100
people do need to stand up and be counted right because um you can't stand on the shores watching
00:35:32.420
this nation drown and hope that somebody else is going to take care of the problem right and do it for
00:35:37.460
you that's not that's not going to get us forward that's going to get us in a much bigger hole i was i
00:35:43.860
went into the white house in 2017 when or when steve bannon was there and he kept trying to take
00:35:49.940
me up to brief president trump and it was amazing every time he would take me from the west wing up
00:35:55.300
to the oval office someone managed to make a phone call and run president trump out of the office on
00:36:00.660
something important and that's how you know it's an intelligence operation because they're managing
00:36:06.500
everybody and they're preventing the information to get to the decision makers because all we do
00:36:12.820
intelligence is a formal report all we do is provide information based on atmospherics what we
00:36:18.820
hear relationships we have and i just pray that enough people come forward to really do what they
00:36:26.900
can to stop the craziness and the destruction of our nation because i do believe our best days are ahead
00:36:34.820
of us if people will step up well we're going to stay on top of this keith and we'll definitely have
00:36:40.020
you back on thank you so much for joining us on the rule room war room i want to turn now to our next
00:36:45.460
guest amon blair who is a senior fellow with the texas public policy foundation he's a former
00:36:51.380
intelligence analyst for the united states army and also for many many years a border patrol agent down
00:36:59.140
on the southern border who has seen firsthand exactly how this administration's open border policy
00:37:04.740
is playing out someone i've also known for um many years uh during my years of reporting down on the
00:37:10.580
border and um amon what i want to put to you i i know you were listening there to dr rose and i have
00:37:17.460
a feeling that there was something particular that was resonating with with you which is that china's
00:37:24.900
system of backing the afghan terror state is not confined just to afghanistan they have been doing the same
00:37:32.820
thing with the venezuelan cartels and the venezuelan government trying to aragua and i know you've
00:37:37.860
been tracking that can you uh can you give us a sense of what that relationship looks like and what
00:37:44.740
does it mean right now for people in this country um who are looking at a border that you know this is an
00:37:52.260
issue that touches every american and it is the number one issue for voters voters uh according to many
00:37:58.740
different polls but also to many different uh voters that i've spoken to so can you lay it out from your
00:38:04.020
perspective for us sure um i'd like to go back into a little like history a little bit um so really it
00:38:11.540
kind of started when hugo chavez uh formed an alliance with iran and cuba um in his bolivarian revolution
00:38:20.500
back in the late 90s and uh fast forward that he uh he spread that revolution through south america and
00:38:26.740
the caribbean and then he um uh kind of turned that strategy into an asymmetric warfare strategy
00:38:36.420
and that was with venezuela itself and also russia uh iran already in there and then also china
00:38:43.860
um so now venezuela is kind of a hub go ahead it's just incredible if americans think that you know
00:38:51.780
while sort of sleepy joe has been in the white house that our adversaries have been sitting back
00:38:57.540
just you know allowing america to destroy itself and they haven't been capitalizing on that it's
00:39:02.260
like a party out there right it's like a party of of everyone who hates america and has the ability
00:39:08.180
to destroy this country if they work together and using asymmetric warfare which is basically
00:39:13.700
unrestricted warfare right um it sounds uh like we've been asleep at the wheel
00:39:19.220
it's been for a long time um so really if you look at what's been happening at the southern border
00:39:25.940
in terms of venezuelan apprehensions uh we can see that a lot of venezuelans really uh weren't coming
00:39:31.220
to the us in 2017 we only apprehended around 2600 uh venezuelans fast forward that to uh fy 2023 we
00:39:42.100
apprehended 334 000 so we know that lord so we know that the uh the venezuelans they were fleeing
00:39:49.780
because uh of course after hugo chavez died maduro came in and then we saw that massive migration outside
00:39:56.580
of venezuela um and and so they were fleeing but they were fleeing to other south american countries
00:40:02.340
um and then also what people don't realize is they were also fleeing to
00:40:06.020
um syria um in fact you have more uh venezuelans you have over 300 000 venezuelans in syria uh than
00:40:14.740
you do in brazil um so that's kind of a a fun fact but so you mentioned earlier train de aragua
00:40:21.700
well when those uh venezuelans were fleeing um there was a transnational criminal organization that
00:40:28.740
was built out of a prison system that was beat was able to be built because it was backed by maduro
00:40:34.740
and uh that was train de aragua so they built their and so that's what it means when we hear in the
00:40:40.260
news that venezuela has emptied its prisons actually what they're referring to is they have emptied the
00:40:46.500
prison of the cartel that that they pretty much grew inside their prison system and dispatched them
00:40:52.900
to the united states right yes ma'am so they they made like some sort of like political theater they
00:41:00.660
came in in venezuela because train de aragua started making international news so they stated they went
00:41:06.020
in there and took the leadership of train de aragua out but it was all just complete theater nothing
00:41:13.220
really actually happened other than now their leaders are in in hiding um and now they're spreading
00:41:19.220
worldwide so train de aragua they built their entire enterprise like i said off the backs of over
00:41:24.500
eight million venezuelans leaving the country and so they built it off those smuggling networks
00:41:29.300
those smuggling networks uh found themselves up to the united states because of uh the biden regime's
00:41:35.700
policies of open borders and and uh so based off that the the train de aragua they needed to
00:41:43.860
they they needed a way into the united states and the only way they could get here was off the
00:41:50.900
infrastructure and the pipelines that were already created and that's going to be the mexican cartels
00:41:55.220
so train de aragua the reason why they are in every single one of your communities that's why we're
00:42:00.420
seeing such violence whether that is in new york or chicago or other areas like in dallas because those
00:42:07.940
that infrastructure had already been set by the mexican cartels and in fact train de aragua uh
00:42:14.180
recently uh forged an alliance with cjng uh cartel jalisco new generation the most violent of the mexican
00:42:20.580
cartels yes ma'am the most violent and what's the role of china in and working alongside uh both
00:42:27.540
the venezuelan and mexican cartels well they our constitution and our constitutional republic is
00:42:34.420
their greatest threat so they see that um that the mexican cartels really already built a silk road for
00:42:44.660
for them for the ccp and for their nefarious activities into every one of our communities
00:42:50.660
they don't they didn't need a belt and road initiative uh when the mexican cartels already
00:42:55.140
built that for them um and so the chinese have weaponized the mexican cartels and used them as proxies
00:43:02.900
in their unrestricted warfare on the united states and so whether that's even
00:43:08.420
okay i i want to um i want to bring in now our other guest george pon i want you to stay with us if you can
00:43:14.020
um because what you're talking about uh has been captured in a in a in a book that george is involved
00:43:20.580
with george has been in policy he's a texan and he's been looking at this issue along with author uh
00:43:26.500
dr richard funk um who is a close friend of his and um and richard funk has written a fictional novel
00:43:33.940
which is about a the chinese and the mexican cartels working together and an october 7th style
00:43:40.660
invasion of the u.s something that is certainly possible when you have effectively an open border
00:43:47.380
and um and so i want to bring in george because um it's kind of extraordinary to me that um
00:43:54.420
that you saw what was happening from your perspective george you saw that this was coming
00:44:00.740
and you're trying to uh reach out across political lines using you know a fictional novel to get people
00:44:08.180
to pay attention to this can you tell us can you tell us about this book and can you tell us why
00:44:13.940
this book matters right now in your view okay thank you well uh i am not the author dr richard funk is
00:44:21.620
the author uh but he's a friend of mine and the name of the book is cartel wars uh the consequence of
00:44:29.060
america's open policy on the border and um four years ago uh we we go to church together and he
00:44:39.220
had written this incredible uh uh transcript about an invasion uh on our border from from mexico and it
00:44:47.300
included the cartels in china and uh but fast forward to uh october 7th uh i have friends in israel
00:44:55.940
and i've been very much involved with israel and when i saw what happened there uh when when for
00:45:01.780
example the the idf is one of the best armies uh that we have on the in the world um they have one
00:45:07.700
of the best intelligence agencies the massad and and and they were taken aback i mean they were invaded
00:45:14.660
and it was a low-tech kind of invasion and they and and the hamas are proxies to uh for from iran so
00:45:22.100
that there's not much difference between what we're faced right now uh with china utilizing the
00:45:28.660
cartels the the fiction of this book really deals with an actual invasion in texas it it's it's fiction
00:45:36.020
but it deals with real uh landmarks it deals with a an invasion where they take over austin and the
00:45:44.260
governor has to flee uh but the end of the book is one that i don't want to say the whole thing about
00:45:50.660
it but it ends on a good note but it has to do with the resilience and the courage of americans
00:45:58.820
making their stand and that's important so really what you're talking about is this is a novel that
00:46:06.580
has captured what this alliance between the chinese and the mexican cartels really means and dr richard
00:46:13.940
funk i believe worked as a um a senior policy uh person for two administrations in the state of texas
00:46:21.940
governor george bush when he was there and governor rick perry and i know that that the book is is um
00:46:28.260
really closely based on real characters and as much from his experience but um you know i want to i
00:46:34.500
want to put it to you i want to bring back um amon blair if i can here and just ask him amon you know
00:46:40.100
is this the kind of thing what is your concern as someone you know who's worn the uniform for
00:46:45.620
the u.s fought in foreign wars abroad and also been on the front line of what is happening on the
00:46:52.100
southern border but now being in the policy side of this where you've had a chance to really dig deep
00:46:57.940
into the extent of this relationship and what it means is what is your concern can you tell people
00:47:05.060
uh how they should understand this sure uh the front line is no longer on our back door at the
00:47:14.180
border it's at your front door it's in your yard and sometimes unless unfortunately if you have a
00:47:20.500
family member that died from a fentanyl uh poisoning um the ccp is in your home and so unfortunately
00:47:30.020
operation red dawn i mean not operation red dawn but the movie red dawn um where we saw the chinese
00:47:36.260
invade unfortunately we've been under an invasion for a long time they are here um but our limited
00:47:43.780
concept or understanding of what war is a lot of times americans think or that the term war means that
00:47:51.060
it's kinetic action that it's guns and tanks and bombs when the chinese have been invading us and
00:47:58.660
they've been setting the stage or what we know in military as phase zero operations for kinetic
00:48:04.820
action later down the road but right now they're already decimating our our cities and communities
00:48:09.780
through drug warfare they're already decimating our uh our moral decency through uh sex trafficking uh
00:48:18.420
through espionage through intelligence sharing uh they already have access to our critical infrastructure
00:48:25.380
through transformers through you name it they're invading through human smuggling warfare on our
00:48:31.220
southern border uh thousands upon thousands of chinese illegal aliens are entering into the united
00:48:37.140
states and and so the invasion has been going on for such a long time that even director uh ray has been
00:48:44.180
stating that it's not if but when something kinetic is going to happen um and so we continue to look for
00:48:50.500
more kinetic at the at the same time as we are completely blind uh to what is actually non-kinetic
00:48:58.100
what is actually happening right in front of us and we're just not making that leap
00:49:03.380
okay so we're almost out of time here i want to throw it back to george very quickly george what do you
00:49:08.660
think this means for the election i want to tell everybody um cartel wars is the book and dr richard
00:49:16.100
funk is the author and uh george is his teammate can you you tell us i know you've been very involved in
00:49:22.420
in trying to get this out to people and trying to get them to pay attention to this issue what do you
00:49:27.940
think it means for the election tell us very quickly before we close well i'm concerned that
00:49:34.420
before the election we're so vulnerable right now uh the in the united states we're about ready to have
00:49:41.060
a major war in the middle east uh we've been surrounded uh for for a long time uh for example
00:49:49.860
the russians have moved their assets into the caribbean uh the chinese and the russians have been uh
00:49:58.100
operating off alaska with their uh supersonic bombs bombers um and and if there would ever be a time for
00:50:07.780
an invasion to take place on taiwan uh with our dysfunctional political system and who knows is
00:50:16.180
really running the white house right now we're we could be in a major war okay well um this is
00:50:25.460
something that's certainly on um on the minds of many people across this country right now especially
00:50:31.060
with the lack of real leadership in the white house at what is um a critical time in this nation's
00:50:37.540
history and um it's kind of like the worst nightmare for anybody to see the mexican cartels venezuelan
00:50:44.980
cartels backed by corrupt regime working together with the chinese communist party i can't think of
00:50:50.500
a more dangerous scenario for this country and for our national security amen you have 30 seconds to
00:50:56.740
close us out because you are one of the smartest people i know
00:51:02.340
i guess to close this out really um is just first and foremost i'd probably listen to everything
00:51:06.740
that lair says on our social media and follow everyone else uh in order for us to uh handle or
00:51:13.060
counter this threat is to actually understand what this actually happened and the only way to do that
00:51:18.100
is by uh parsing through all the massive amount of information and understand that a majority of
00:51:23.780
people have agendas uh lair does not um so the only way that us as americans that can actually go ahead
00:51:29.620
and do something is by one informed getting us ourselves informed and then informing our uh
00:51:34.420
politicians thank you very much for joining us today this is the war room steve bannon is 39 days in
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jail send uh get out i know what he wants he's told all of us he wants you to get out and vote thank you so
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