Bannon's War Room - August 12, 2024


WarRoom Battleground EP 590： Herded By Sheepfakes — Question Everything, Including the ＂Skeptics＂

Topics
digital delusion two-tier policing Fabian Society influence
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Steve Bannon
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Rick Munn Courtney Turner Donald Trump Keir Starmer Harris Patriot Mobile Frankenstein Strategic Intelligence Carol Quigley William Stead Jim Rickards Alice Bailey Elon Musk Bud Light Ron Paul Perfectibilis Harry Hillary Clinton App Store Lucifer Publishing and 17 more
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In this episode, Joe Allen sits in for Stephen K.K. Bannon, who sits unjustly in prison serving a life sentence for conspiracy to commit terrorism. Joe Allen exposes the truth behind the lies, propaganda, deepfakes, and fake news.

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00:00:24.560 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:29.300 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:33.580 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
00:00:40.640 your host Stephen K Bannon look at the picture see the skull the part of bone removed the master race 0.79
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00:01:03.100 all Frankenstein controls here's a governor Tim Walz got in Detroit Michigan all right look this is the
00:01:08.900 last video I'm going to make on this topic I actually want to make it really easy for Harry to be able to
00:01:13.300 debunk me as well as all the other conservative creators calling this event fake Harry if what
00:01:18.280 you're saying is true it would be so easy for you to prove this was a real event so this was the original
00:01:23.940 image you posted we've all seen this image and we've all seen that video you showed the problem is
00:01:29.200 this image as well as that video have all come from the Harris campaign and if you'd like to debunk
00:01:34.700 all of us and make us all look stupid all you got to do is give us the video of somebody in here 0.85
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00:02:56.360 Good evening. It is Monday, August 12th, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
00:03:04.460 I am Joe Allen, sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon, who sits right now unjustly in prison.
00:03:13.040 The fact that Steve is in prison is a harsh reality that many people have a hard time facing.
00:03:19.360 You have all kinds of lefties who see his imprisonment as inconsequential.
00:03:27.960 You have lefties who have come to me saying that he's in some sort of Martha Stewart-style resort with golf courses and conjugal visits.
00:03:39.500 Nothing could be further from the truth, and in this world, this world of lies, propaganda, deepfakes, and what I call sheepfakes,
00:03:52.340 it's very easy for any person to believe whatever they want to believe.
00:03:57.800 This is what my friend Shane Cashman calls post-reality, a world in which nothing is certain that you see on the screen,
00:04:07.500 and so every person is able to just simply believe what they want.
00:04:13.780 Now, we know that that freedom to simply create your own reality has been with us since basically the first lie in the Garden of Eden,
00:04:23.720 but what once were ancient lies, lies in which people deceived each other simply verbally,
00:04:31.920 in the modern era became propaganda in which modern media allowed for messaging that contained some truth,
00:04:41.360 some falsehood, to be spread across populations at scale,
00:04:45.860 and it allowed authorities or even individual organizations and people
00:04:51.060 to manipulate the internal realities of any population, any group, any target audience.
00:04:59.240 Now, in the Internet era, now in the era of AI-generated deepfakes,
00:05:07.520 that landscape has become ever more questionable and ever more filled with falsehood.
00:05:12.740 We've gone from lies to propaganda to time-honored selective editing and cheapfakes to deepfakes
00:05:21.280 and what I call sheepfakes, sheepfakes being a legitimate piece of media that is called fake
00:05:30.740 and allows people to herd the sheep over the cliff to total lack of credibility.
00:05:39.220 If Denver will throw up our first image,
00:05:41.980 As we wait for Denver to throw up the first image,
00:05:47.300 the first image you see here is from a Harris-Walls campaign stop at a rally in Detroit.
00:05:56.560 You can see them exiting the plane onto the tarmac with a huge crowd.
00:06:02.000 Now, I had friends who work in AI come to me and tell me that this looks altered.
00:06:09.420 Something is off about it.
00:06:11.900 The color looks off.
00:06:14.040 The crowd itself, if you look at the cell phones,
00:06:16.400 it appears that each cell phone kind of has its own individual screen.
00:06:20.940 And this prompted a number of conservative influencers
00:06:24.600 to accuse the Harris-Walls campaign of creating deepfakes of crowds that really do not exist.
00:06:34.700 Now, I would love to believe that.
00:06:35.980 I would love to believe that Harris-Walls walked out on a basically empty tarmac
00:06:41.880 and gave their speeches to a basically empty hangar.
00:06:46.960 But the reality is that these crowds are real in Detroit,
00:06:53.040 as they were in Wisconsin, as they were in Las Vegas.
00:06:57.320 And all of these real human beings, however odd the footage looks,
00:07:01.280 these people will be able to vote.
00:07:05.460 And so we can't allow ourselves to be herded by sheepfakes 0.85
00:07:09.260 in order to basically discredit the entire MAGA movement.
00:07:15.180 If Denver would just move not to that image,
00:07:17.620 but to the first B-roll image, as I call for it,
00:07:20.840 you can see here a PBS video.
00:07:25.860 You can see very clearly the tarmac is covered with people.
00:07:31.100 You can see Harris-Walls emerge from the plane.
00:07:35.600 As we move forward here, one of the questions that's been asked a lot,
00:07:38.540 well, where is all the footage from the people on the tarmac?
00:07:42.460 Well, there you have one of hundreds, maybe thousands of images posted all over the internet
00:07:50.620 of that tarmac and that crowd.
00:07:54.120 Now, one of the reasons that people haven't seen these images
00:07:57.600 that are in the kind of conservative circles
00:07:59.920 is because we live in algorithmic ghettos.
00:08:03.780 And in these ghettos, we're only shown what the algorithm thinks we want to see. 0.70
00:08:09.660 Now, if Denver can go to the second image, I want to show you a deepfake,
00:08:15.400 an actual deepfake that made the rounds.
00:08:19.360 It was posted, I believe, last Saturday.
00:08:24.440 And so you can see this image is very, very questionable to begin with.
00:08:27.860 There's a kind of uniformity to it.
00:08:29.940 If you look closely, you can see that some of the people's eyes are crossed
00:08:33.820 as if they'd been spawned by kissing cousins.
00:08:36.540 And if Denver can show the third image, you've got a close-up.
00:08:41.760 You can see a kind of warped face, weird crossed eyes.
00:08:46.340 Maybe show the fourth image too, Denver.
00:08:50.160 And you can see kind of this deformity about the images.
00:08:55.140 This is a deepfake.
00:08:56.120 This is an actual deepfake of a Harris-Walls event.
00:09:00.580 The problem is that it was created by a parody count called Dr. Literally a Feline
00:09:09.040 with a cat image in the profile pic.
00:09:13.300 And yet that didn't stop extraordinarily influential conservative commentators
00:09:19.340 from accusing the Harris campaign of creating AI deepfakes to inflate the numbers,
00:09:27.160 to make it look like their rallies are drawing huge crowds.
00:09:30.120 The reality is they are drawing huge crowds, and this is a major problem for the MAGA movement.
00:09:38.440 If we could just look at the fifth image, this fifth image was also very curious.
00:09:43.980 It's the same tarmac in Detroit.
00:09:46.400 You see them coming off the plane, same crowd.
00:09:48.840 But if you look closely at the cowling, the jet engine, you can see that there is no reflection,
00:09:58.700 or at least it appears there's no reflection, as if the crowd had simply been photoshopped in.
00:10:05.480 Now, when I first saw this, I thought, well, okay, maybe this actually is a deepfake.
00:10:10.720 It would be strange to create a deepfake of a crowd when any number of means could be employed
00:10:17.600 to verify the reality of the crowd, but maybe they did.
00:10:21.540 And then a friend noted that the crowd, due to the camera lens,
00:10:27.160 is probably much farther away than it appears in the photo.
00:10:31.140 And as I thought about it, and you look at the shape of the cowling, it is a convex surface.
00:10:37.340 And if you think of the surveillance cameras you see in all sorts of grocery stores and whatnot,
00:10:45.640 a convex surface will extend the lower part of an image and shrink the eye-level part.
00:10:51.580 And so if Denver could just, to finish up here, show the second B-roll.
00:10:57.440 And this is, again, from PBS.
00:10:58.980 This is the exact same stop.
00:11:00.580 And unless they created an elaborate video deepfake that they put on PBS,
00:11:06.660 you can see very clearly that same illusion in which it appears that there is no crowd
00:11:12.500 in the reflection on the cowling, but hundreds, maybe thousands, of independent videos show
00:11:19.920 that there were indeed crowds.
00:11:24.260 Now, what is the problem with all this?
00:11:27.240 Why am I picking on conservative influencers for spreading these sorts of images
00:11:32.220 with the accusation that Harris is creating AI deepfakes in the crowd?
00:11:36.760 Number one, in a post-reality environment, you have to keep your wits about you.
00:11:42.100 There is every reason to believe that any image might be a deepfake.
00:11:47.800 If Denver would throw up the final, the third B-roll,
00:11:50.540 you can see here images created with AI from Flux AI.
00:11:57.420 These are not real people.
00:12:00.180 These are deepfakes.
00:12:02.780 These are AI-generated human beings.
00:12:06.760 And as good as they look, as much as you would love to hear any one of these ladies say,
00:12:11.980 I love you, these ladies don't exist. 1.00
00:12:15.220 But these ladies will tell you they love you, just as any sort of AI-generated figure will. 0.91
00:12:23.560 We are entering an era of post-reality in which people will simply want to believe something,
00:12:30.600 and so they will.
00:12:32.700 The problem is the total decoupling from reality, being awash in digital delusion.
00:12:39.080 But the second and perhaps most dangerous problem is that in this sea of digital delusion,
00:12:47.560 you are going to have authorities, both governmental and corporate, rise up to clarify all of this,
00:12:54.840 to distinguish between what is real, in air quotes, and what is fake.
00:13:01.140 And what's going to happen is probably going to look a lot like what we see in the United Kingdom right now,
00:13:09.060 in which anyone accused of disseminating unapproved information, whether it's real or not,
00:13:16.680 could find themselves in jail for a Facebook post, for a retweet.
00:13:22.160 What we are entering in is both an age of information totalitarianism, if it is not stopped,
00:13:32.400 coupled with a total mind warp of digital delusions.
00:13:38.860 So I urge the War Room Posse, I do my best not to lead you astray,
00:13:42.840 I urge the War Room Posse, while Steve Bannon is in jail and can't keep these people in line,
00:13:48.220 to keep your wits about you.
00:13:51.940 Don't fall for the cheap fakes, don't fall for the deep fakes,
00:13:57.380 and don't be herded off the cliff by sheep fakes.
00:14:02.160 If we could go into the UK protest video and then bring in the great Rick Munn.
00:14:10.920 We will throw the false force of the law at people.
00:14:12.760 And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets,
00:14:17.960 or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you.
00:14:22.240 Talk to me about that, because we have seen some high-profile figures whipping up the hatred.
00:14:27.720 You talked about it in there with the officers, in fact, about this being added to by online commentary.
00:14:31.900 I mean, I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.
00:14:34.540 What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behaviour
00:14:40.080 from behind a keyboard, maybe in a different country?
00:14:44.640 Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law.
00:14:49.020 You can be guilty of offences of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred.
00:14:54.100 There are numerous terrorist offences regarding the publishing of material.
00:14:59.080 All of those offences are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets.
00:15:04.800 And we will come after those individuals, just as we will physically confront on the streets,
00:15:08.800 the thugs and the yobs who are taking, who are causing the promise of a community. 0.99
00:15:13.820 Hello, what's your name for you? 1.00
00:15:15.180 F***, F***. 1.00
00:15:16.140 Yeah, lovely. 1.00
00:15:16.700 I'm expecting you all.
00:15:17.360 Yeah.
00:15:17.740 Have you had a chance to come in?
00:15:18.680 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:19.360 Lovely, thank you.
00:15:20.820 I've been expecting you all.
00:15:21.800 Well, assuming these images are real, and I believe they are, that looks like some horrific
00:15:48.180 far-right thuggery to me.
00:15:50.080 If we could bring in Rick Munn, the great Rick Munn from TNT Radio, coming at us from Ireland.
00:15:56.600 Rick has been following both the U.K. riots and also the government crackdown that has come
00:16:03.580 and it's in their wake, and the specter of increasing information control.
00:16:08.760 Rick, how are you?
00:16:09.960 And can you tell us what the current state of the U.K. is now, insofar as the rioting goes,
00:16:15.920 and what is the government trying to do about it?
00:16:18.540 First of all, I'm doing well.
00:16:20.780 Thank you, Joe.
00:16:21.740 And thank you for inviting me back on to have a chat with you today.
00:16:24.840 Well, since the last time we spoke, which I think was last week, the riots have spread
00:16:29.140 a little bit further afield.
00:16:30.580 They're contained mostly within England at this point in time.
00:16:33.740 Wales, Scotland, little bits of pockets of sporadic violence in Northern Ireland, but
00:16:38.720 by and large, they're taking place in England.
00:16:41.940 And there's a lot of accusations doing the rounds, justifiably so, about two-tier policing
00:16:47.980 within England.
00:16:50.520 In fact, notably, our mutual friend, someone who we both admire and adore very much, Elon
00:16:55.940 Musk, has even weighed in on this one, brandishing Keir Starmer.
00:17:00.140 The British Prime Minister is two-tier Keir.
00:17:02.660 That's his new adopted nickname, something wouldn't be amiss that Donald Trump would throw
00:17:07.140 out to one of his political adversaries.
00:17:09.180 So this whole two-tier policing business comes around well.
00:17:12.640 There's policing for one group, not so much policing for another group.
00:17:15.980 So Her Hills Rats in Leeds a few weeks ago, we saw the police running, running from areas
00:17:21.680 while their vehicles were torched, buses were burnt, streets were destroyed.
00:17:25.580 They ran in fear.
00:17:26.660 A few days later in Southport, also in London, we saw them aggressively kettling certain protesters
00:17:33.440 and arresting them.
00:17:34.560 And we're being told that the full force of the law will be swiftly felt by all these perpetrators,
00:17:41.360 although it seems to be the full force of the law is felt more by certain groups and
00:17:46.840 more swiftly upon certain groups than other groups, which, of course, reinforces this notion
00:17:51.760 of two-tier policing, something that the government is at pains to deny, vehemently,
00:17:57.580 strenuously deny, it's a gaslighting masterclass from the British government right now, that
00:18:02.500 they're being equal, equal treatment of everyone, that the reality is something different.
00:18:08.960 So looking at this entire information landscape where you have all of these kind of competing
00:18:14.200 narratives, it's the far right that's responsible for this.
00:18:17.720 It is the Muslim hordes, the invaders that are responsible for this. 1.00
00:18:23.180 How do you weigh those narratives? 0.94
00:18:26.060 And what do you see?
00:18:27.300 Again, how does this relate to that kind of two-tiered policing and the obvious bias coming
00:18:33.100 from the British and the UK media and the government in the UK?
00:18:38.160 Well, the UK mainstream media or the legacy media is very much on board with the government,
00:18:43.080 of course, as they are state agents in reality.
00:18:46.480 And so the party line or the government line is that the vast majority of people that are
00:18:51.560 taking to the streets in the UK now are far-rights, they're fascists.
00:18:55.800 It's a right-wing, extreme right-wing mobilisation onto the streets of Britain to cause maximum 0.54
00:19:02.380 chaos and disorder, to burn loot and do all sorts of damage, to kill possibly.
00:19:08.040 So the people that protest against this, Joe, interestingly, are labelled anti-fascists.
00:19:14.300 So the people that are right-wing extremists are labelled fascists, and the people that
00:19:18.480 are opposing anybody that really wants to have a monitor placed on the borders and stop mass
00:19:23.520 migration, illegal and legal, are deemed to be right-wing fascists.
00:19:28.400 So the media has picked up on this one.
00:19:30.640 They've ran with it hard.
00:19:32.000 And it's almost like a repetition of the scandemic years when anyone that was against government
00:19:36.960 lockdowns, for example, or against vaccine mandates was aggressively branded an anti-vaxxer.
00:19:43.080 That terminology and the mentality behind demonising that particular group during the
00:19:48.100 COVID years has now effectively been ported across to anyone that's opposing mass illegal
00:19:54.240 or legal migration into the UK and Ireland at this time.
00:19:57.100 Now, it's the right, the extreme right, the far-right fascists even going now to drop the
00:20:03.400 N-word, as in Nazis.
00:20:05.480 Nazis were being branded Nazis as well if we just want a little bit of border control.
00:20:10.300 So that's the extent that we're at as per right now.
00:20:13.620 You know, we've heard a lot from Keir Starmer and speaking not only about the far-right thuggery
00:20:20.940 using this sort of language to demonise the native population, but also in the threats against
00:20:27.960 people's activities, both online and offline, how big of a difference is this?
00:20:32.240 How big of a shift is this new prime minister?
00:20:34.800 Has it really always been at this level of bias?
00:20:39.120 Or does this new Labour leader really represent a sea change in the way that the state is cracking
00:20:45.900 down on the native British population?
00:20:48.280 This guy, Joe, in the last five and a half weeks, he officially won the election on the
00:20:55.540 4th of July, 2024.
00:20:57.300 So what are we now, the 10th of August, 12th of August, whatever date it is today.
00:21:00.720 So you're talking five or six weeks.
00:21:02.620 The guy has caused probably as much, if not more, damage in this short space of time as
00:21:08.040 his predecessor, Rishi Sunak, who, by the way, was unelected, who took over from Liz Trust,
00:21:13.600 who, by the way, was unelected and only lasted six weeks, who took over from Boris Johnson,
00:21:18.940 who was our previous last elected prime minister.
00:21:22.000 He's done untold amounts of damage.
00:21:23.620 And what he refuses to do, and let me make this very clear, he refuses to acknowledge the
00:21:27.980 fact that vast majority of the people have concerns and fears and hesitations, and they're
00:21:34.780 worried about the future.
00:21:36.200 They're worried about the country being flooded.
00:21:38.260 Not everybody's completely against it, but they certainly have fears and concerns that are
00:21:42.460 not being addressed.
00:21:43.580 They're simply being labelled as an extensive right-wing group.
00:21:47.800 And within the people that are protesting and within the people that are ratting, of
00:21:51.720 course, there are right-wing extremists. 0.99
00:21:54.160 There are fascist thugs. 0.74
00:21:55.900 But the vast majority of people are not.
00:21:58.000 They're just normal, everyday, blue-collar, middle-class, working people who are concerned
00:22:02.560 about their future and their children's future.
00:22:05.000 The government refused to acknowledge it.
00:22:06.620 So tensions are starting to build and build and build.
00:22:08.940 And nothing at all is being done by the so-called leader, Keir Starmer, to lower tensions at
00:22:15.720 this point in time.
00:22:16.860 In fact, if anything, he seems to be fanning the flames of division and strife.
00:22:22.240 Real quick, Rick, we've got two minutes.
00:22:24.500 And if you don't mind, I'll hold you over and just speak for just a moment on the other
00:22:28.760 side of the break.
00:22:29.440 But in this remaining two minutes, can you just give us an indication, how are things
00:22:34.600 going in Ireland, where you are at?
00:22:37.120 Are you concerned for yourself that your own coverage could lead to the cops, the bobbies
00:22:42.660 knocking on your door?
00:22:43.840 The way I see it is, OK, if you have a modicum of common sense, you won't get a knock on the
00:22:49.260 door.
00:22:49.600 So I'm reporting factual information.
00:22:51.520 I'm giving my informed opinion on it.
00:22:54.520 I am not inciting anyone to take to the streets and burn or loot or kill or ethnically cleanse.
00:23:02.440 And I never will.
00:23:03.320 I've always been clear right from the get-go that I don't condone any acts of violence.
00:23:10.040 And I don't encourage any acts of violence.
00:23:12.240 I believe the only way out of this is through peaceful mass non-compliance.
00:23:16.160 So they can knock my door if they like Joe.
00:23:18.720 I'm pretty happy to stand over anything that I've said and probably could give a damn good
00:23:23.280 account of myself in any court of law if it came down to that.
00:23:26.940 And, you know, that's just the way it is.
00:23:28.700 So I don't fear that.
00:23:30.100 But I'm sure they're chomping at the bit.
00:23:32.160 There's a lot of people in the crosshairs.
00:23:33.720 Maybe they're just waiting to slip up for the wrong word to come out in the heat of the
00:23:37.560 moment so we can say, gotcha.
00:23:39.080 And next thing you know, you're in front of the magistrate.
00:23:42.400 Well, Rick, I know, having known you now for a couple of years, you are absolutely careful
00:23:46.740 with your words, even if occasionally you are prone to a creative flourish.
00:23:51.980 It is, you are not a man of the pay.
00:23:54.800 In fact, you know, a little, you know, background on Rick, Rick spent much of his youth in Africa
00:24:03.560 as an evangelist.
00:24:05.160 So it is not as if he is some sort of, you know, backward provincial Irish leprechaun.
00:24:11.460 He is a man of the world.
00:24:13.340 Rick, if we can just hold you over, we've got a couple of ads, and then we will be right
00:24:19.140 back to discuss the possible fall of the West and the rise of a digital totalitarian state.
00:24:27.040 Stay tuned.
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00:34:02.060 All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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00:34:09.080 All right, welcome back.
00:34:14.020 I'm Joe Allen sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon, who sits in prison, apparently now alongside a number of people who posted the wrong thing online in the U.K.
00:34:25.440 If we could bring in Rick Munn again.
00:34:27.580 Rick, I've followed your coverage now for over two years.
00:34:31.120 You've taught me so much, not only about the philosophy of a religious man, but also just about the landscape in Europe, especially from a critical perspective.
00:34:42.680 Where can we find your coverage on TNT?
00:34:46.080 How do people get there?
00:34:47.480 And what do you got coming up right now?
00:34:49.400 Basically, we have a website, TNT.news.
00:34:53.100 We're an independent broadcaster.
00:34:55.280 We've been going now for two and a half years, based out of the Gold Coast in Australia, but obviously streaming across the world on any major streaming platform.
00:35:02.820 YouTube, BitChute, Odyssey, Rumble.
00:35:05.100 You can download our app, TNT Radio, from the App Store or the Google Play Store.
00:35:09.400 24-7, live broadcasting, current affairs, uncensored, unscripted topics.
00:35:15.200 You've been on my show many times, Joe, and for that I'm eternally grateful.
00:35:18.440 I have a show called Locked and Loaded.
00:35:20.460 It broadcasts every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. UK time.
00:35:28.540 And obviously you can adjust that for wherever you are in the world.
00:35:31.160 So that's where I'm at, or that's where I'm based out of.
00:35:33.800 And what are we covering at the minute?
00:35:35.220 Well, literally, the breaking news of the day.
00:35:37.320 The station's called TNT, Today's News Talk.
00:35:39.640 So we try and keep it as topical as possible, even within the hour, even within the broadcasting window that I have of two hours.
00:35:46.260 We keep trying to keep updated stories coming in thick and fast because the way things are at the minute, it's information overload.
00:35:52.800 In fact, I noted down some of your phrases there when you were doing your intro.
00:35:57.420 We're awash in digital delusion.
00:36:00.640 And some of us have got caught up in a total mind warp of digital delusion.
00:36:04.860 So I suppose what I'm trying to do is keep a little bit of sanity and a little bit of humor to all these dark, nefarious activities that are going on in the world.
00:36:12.620 And that's what I'm going to try and do for as long as I'm allowed to remain on air.
00:36:17.520 Well, Rick, we really, we really, really appreciate your light.
00:36:20.900 We really, really appreciate your intellect.
00:36:22.860 And we hope to see you back on the War Room soon.
00:36:24.900 Thank you very much, sir.
00:36:26.300 You're welcome.
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00:37:26.880 Thank you.
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00:37:33.060 Thank you, sir.
00:37:35.180 I appreciate it.
00:37:36.360 Courtney Turner.
00:37:37.700 Courtney, host of the Courtney Turner podcast, has covered the Fabians, the Theosophists, and all of the various threads weaving together to form what is apparently the seeds of global government.
00:37:54.100 And Courtney, if you could just link for us, if you will, the Fabian Society and this new labor leader, Keir Starmer.
00:38:05.200 Well, thank you for having me.
00:38:07.040 And yeah, well, there's a lot of, it's a very intricate web, I guess is how we could say it.
00:38:12.620 But the Fabian Society was started initially, actually, by something called the Fellowship of New Life, which you were talking about kind of the, you know, the one world government and, of course, the one world religion.
00:38:27.360 And they're all very intertwined.
00:38:30.040 And this Fellowship of New Life was very religious in its sentiments.
00:38:35.000 It was very theosophical, I would say, in its sentiments.
00:38:37.940 And it was this idea that's kind of reminiscent of what the Illuminati was actually called the Perfectibilis.
00:38:44.300 It was called the Order of the Perfectibilis initially.
00:38:46.660 It's this idea of the perfectibility of man.
00:38:49.860 So, of course, it's, you know, they believe that they have the gnosis and, therefore, they are the ones who can guide us and to help perfect us.
00:38:59.100 And this is a similar thread.
00:39:00.700 I'm not saying necessarily that they are intertwined, although Anthony Sutton would argue that lots of evidence does indicate that they are and that more research needs to be done.
00:39:10.680 I think, unfortunately, he didn't get a chance to finish that research.
00:39:14.680 But the thread, the sentiment is very similar.
00:39:17.980 And so from there, it was an offshoot that created the Fabian Society.
00:39:21.720 And worth noting, you know, they, of course, named it after Fabius Maximus.
00:39:27.780 He was also known as the Cuncator, which meant the DeLayer.
00:39:31.960 So it's this idea.
00:39:33.020 They had the mascot of the tortoise.
00:39:36.020 And, you know, they say, when I strike, I strike hard.
00:39:40.160 And they wanted to use that name because it was this idea of incremental policies.
00:39:45.860 And so incrementalism is this, you know, kind of slow and steady, gradually, these movements that seem like they are organic, bottom up.
00:39:57.060 But actually, you know, as we talked last time, it's they say educate, agitate, and then organize.
00:40:04.500 And so it's really infiltrated.
00:40:07.680 So they're not necessarily organic.
00:40:09.880 However, they work through grassroots, bottom up, and then they strike hard.
00:40:14.880 So it seems like it's all at once.
00:40:17.260 And so this is kind of their modus operandi, and they had their mascot of the tortoise.
00:40:23.260 But their coat of arms is actually a wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:40:26.920 And I would argue that this is a nod to the Hegelian dialectic, this idea of infiltrating from within and having a veneer, an exoteric veneer that is palatable to, you know, the opponent.
00:40:40.780 But it's very similar to the idea of controlled opposition and leading your, you know, controlling the opposition is you lead it from within.
00:40:51.640 So do you ask about, like, what's going on with the Labour Party today?
00:40:55.420 So the Fabian Society actually created something called the Labour Representatives Committee.
00:41:01.900 And that was in 1900.
00:41:03.840 And in 1900, and that became kind of the founding impetus for the Labour Party.
00:41:10.680 So the Fabian Society is directly connected.
00:41:14.400 It's almost like a sister organization.
00:41:16.540 So as I was talking about, the Fellowship of New Life initially was more of a, you know, kind of spiritual kind of a group.
00:41:23.980 And then the offshoot was to get involved in political movements.
00:41:28.160 And that was the role of the Fabian Society.
00:41:30.180 But they're, you know, so intertwined with so many other things, you know, like the Milner Roundtable Group, the Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Council of Foreign Relations.
00:41:42.700 I would argue it gets very complicated, kind of like the mafia.
00:41:46.140 It's really hard to track down the crime because they have lots of minions doing all of their work.
00:41:50.880 So, you know, you've mentioned that the Fabian Society, that their coat of arms was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:41:57.600 But you see right now these threats from the UK government for nothing more than simply saying things online.
00:42:04.320 It would seem that that sheep's clothing has been discarded and the wolf has finally come out.
00:42:10.140 I'm curious, you know, looking at the history of the Fabian Society and its influence on British politics, world politics, you know,
00:42:18.460 these sorts of organizations, oftentimes they'll gain tremendous influence, they'll lose influence and become more relevant.
00:42:24.820 They perhaps gain it again.
00:42:26.440 What is the kind of scope of the influence of the Fabian Society, both in its inception, but maybe more importantly, as it stands today?
00:42:38.680 I think they have tremendous power and tremendous influence.
00:42:43.120 But again, because of the wolf in sheep's clothing, and you're right, I would say, you know,
00:42:47.500 maybe they've shed some of the sheep's clothing, and that's the idea of striking hard.
00:42:52.820 They said it had no impact unless they do strike hard when the time is right.
00:42:57.400 You know, they talked about Fabius Maximus and, you know, defeating Hannibal.
00:43:01.960 It has to be, you know, when the time is, you snap hard.
00:43:05.160 So I would say that it's really hard to detect, but I think they have tremendous impact and power in so many different realms.
00:43:15.440 And it's not just in the British government, although certainly I think, you know, Tony Blair is a Fabian socialist.
00:43:22.480 You know, there's so many we could go back to.
00:43:24.880 And, of course, the Labour Party, largely comprised of Fabian.
00:43:29.420 So definitely in the British government.
00:43:32.520 But I think what we're seeing kind of worldwide, there is a lot of impact.
00:43:37.460 We see this through the education system.
00:43:40.100 We see this through the—I would actually argue a lot of the movement in the UN has a lot of Fabian tactics.
00:43:48.100 So, you know, psychological warfare, I would argue a lot of the tactics and the strategy from that come out of the British War Propaganda Bureau, which became the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations.
00:44:00.700 And a lot of the founding members of that were Fabian socialists.
00:44:05.440 And so the strategy behind it and also the power structure, because, you know, this is a great book.
00:44:11.460 I keep pointing to it.
00:44:12.420 I might have referenced it last time.
00:44:14.080 The Milner-Fabian Conspiracy by Ian Rattu, and he talks about the roundtable groups.
00:44:20.100 Of course, this is an extension of Carol Quigley's work, who was the mentor to Bill Clinton.
00:44:24.900 He wrote the famous tome, Tragedy and Hope.
00:44:28.340 It's a 1,400-page tome.
00:44:30.480 And it was kind of a tell-all book about these roundtable groups that are very influential, you know, in geopolitics.
00:44:39.020 So, like our Council of Foreign Relations, people might remember the famous introduction that Hillary Clinton did when she was at the Council of Foreign Relations in New York City.
00:44:49.840 And she talks about how influential they are and how they're not typically getting orders from them, but they rarely have the opportunity to meet there and that it was such an honor.
00:44:57.920 So there, you know, the Council of Foreign Relations is very tied in with all of this.
00:45:02.780 And, of course, they're very instrumental in geopolitical—I would say the geopolitical chessboard.
00:45:09.360 And these are—so this—that was the work of Carol Quigley.
00:45:14.880 He—when he was an archivist, actually, for the CFR, and he wrote this tell-all tome, and he was very proud of what they were doing.
00:45:23.080 And they got very upset with him, kind of like, you know, we're secret for a reason.
00:45:27.560 And he said, but the world needs to know.
00:45:29.040 This is fantastic.
00:45:30.220 He wrote a shorter book called The Anglo-American Establishment.
00:45:34.220 And I think that's a really important seminal work.
00:45:37.360 It's kind of an extension of William Steed's work, which was published in 1901.
00:45:43.440 And he talks about something called The Great Reproachment.
00:45:46.360 And that was 100 years prior to the Kissinger-China Reproachment.
00:45:51.300 But the idea was kind of similar.
00:45:53.640 And it was using, you know, this merger of the—which became the Anglo-American establishment.
00:45:58.640 But it was also, to bring back to the Fabian, later Orwell called—in his book, he called it the Oceanias.
00:46:06.020 And it was this idea really reminiscent of the Atlanticists that William Steed talked about.
00:46:12.180 And that was the notion that they were going to create this empire of all the English-speaking countries.
00:46:17.920 And it would be—the Americans would be kind of the front, and the British intelligence would be kind of the—I don't want to say puppet masters, but I don't know what else to say.
00:46:28.920 It's a—you know, but they were the intelligence apparatus driving and the operations, and then the Americans would be the front executors.
00:46:37.080 So I don't know if I answered your question, but yeah, there's so much.
00:46:41.320 Absolutely. I think you've answered them in great detail and extensively.
00:46:46.720 You know, for the listener, I'm sure that this can seem like an overload.
00:46:51.020 We cover a wide range of organizations, and you think about the interrelationship between, say, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission,
00:47:00.960 the World Economic Forum, Chatham House, all of the different agendas bubbling up in these organizations, many of them at counterpurposes, but you do see certain dominant themes.
00:47:14.120 You know, Courtney, we've only got about four minutes left, and I really want to talk about your upcoming Cognitive Liberty Conference.
00:47:21.820 But in the run-up to that, if you would, just a couple of minutes, looking as you have at the Fabian Society, the Tavistock Institute,
00:47:31.520 the various kind of occultic roots of certain UN-affiliated organizations like Lucis Trust,
00:47:38.860 I want to just know your main opposition to this has always been the infringement upon cognitive liberty,
00:47:47.880 the infringement upon one's own consciousness.
00:47:50.560 So if you could, just give us a couple of minutes on that, and then tell us a bit about your upcoming conference on the way out.
00:47:58.420 Sure. So, yeah, that is my primary opposition to it.
00:48:02.440 So I would argue that the theosophists that are kind of the underbelly of the UN—so, of course, there's Lucis Trust,
00:48:11.420 which was created by Alice Bailey, who was a disciple of Madame Blavatsky, who founded Theosophical Society in 1875.
00:48:18.660 And it originally was started as Lucifer Publishing.
00:48:23.080 That was a little too on the nose.
00:48:24.680 They changed it to Lucius Trust.
00:48:27.120 And this is—they talk about being a consultancy to the UN.
00:48:31.140 This was very influential on people like Robert Mueller, who says that the future of education he created,
00:48:36.960 the World Core Curriculum, is going to be predicated on the works of Alice Bailey, her ascended master,
00:48:42.960 Joal Kuhl, and Kut Humi, who is the ascended master, allegedly, for Madame Blavatsky.
00:48:48.960 And they create—I think the best way I could say this is they create kind of this like boric soup 0.99
00:48:54.420 where they're trying to blend all distinctions and all differentiation.
00:48:59.880 And as humans, I think one of the things that makes humans, you know, so special,
00:49:05.220 or one of the things I really value about humans is our freedom of consciousness and our freedom of conscience
00:49:09.880 and the fact that we are individuals and that I believe we were, as the, you know, document of our Declaration of Independence stipulates
00:49:18.800 that we were endowed with inalienable rights from our creator.
00:49:21.900 And this idea of trying to eradicate any differentiation, and this is a very—I'm trying to make this very quick,
00:49:28.940 but to, you know, return to source, to return to one, it blurs all the boundaries.
00:49:35.540 And this is part of that trans movement, which I think is leading to the transhuman movement.
00:49:39.740 I do think it's a, you know, partially a mimetic and, you know, philosophical continuum.
00:49:45.540 But, yeah, so I am really trying to be a—whatever I can do to instill cognitive liberty and so that we can have freedom.
00:49:57.320 Yeah.
00:49:57.780 And there's a big push for this August 16th and 17th, am I right?
00:50:03.520 16th, 17th.
00:50:05.540 August 16th, 17th.
00:50:06.500 And where do people find it?
00:50:07.920 Where do people go?
00:50:08.520 We've got about 30 seconds left.
00:50:09.940 Where do people go?
00:50:10.580 Okay, cognitivelibertyconference.com is where you can find the tickets.
00:50:13.840 We have both in-person as well as online tickets.
00:50:17.720 And, yeah, it's cognitivelibertyconference.com.
00:50:20.400 So the first day is focusing on cognitive liberty in the youth through education,
00:50:24.400 and the second day is focused on political and psychological dialectical warfare
00:50:28.380 and how we can mitigate against it, I believe, is through cognitive liberty.
00:50:32.720 Yeah, cognitiveliberty.com, and you say that there's both an online and in-person.
00:50:38.240 So sorry.
00:50:39.120 Say it again.
00:50:41.620 Cognitivelibertyconference.com.
00:50:42.700 Got it.
00:50:44.480 Both online and in-person options.
00:50:47.040 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
00:50:48.760 A wide range of speakers.
00:50:50.220 Really looking forward to John Klaisic, and definitely looking forward to hearing you speak there.
00:50:54.900 So, Courtney, I really, really appreciate it.
00:50:57.140 We hope to have you back.
00:50:58.580 And at the Courtney Turner Podcast, you can dig deep on everything that she is working on right now.
00:51:04.580 Thank you very much, Courtney.
00:51:05.960 Thank you so much for having me.
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