WarRoom Battleground EP 595: States Work To Clean Up Their Elections
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In this episode of the Truth War Room Podcast, we dig deep into the dirty dirty politics of gerrymandering in Ohio and Georgia, and try to figure out what s going on in both of them and why it s so important that we all pay attention to it.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
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like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon good evening monday 19th of august and no domini 2024 harnwell here at the
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we've got a very packed hour ahead of you today so we're going to cut straight into it first up
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is the secretary of state in ohio frank larose secretary of state good afternoon to you there's
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been some substantial um accusations but reading through this it seems to be a political hit job
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against you but accusations that you've you're involved with gerrymandering and that you have
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abandoned your obligation to be impartial by this new group uh parading itself as citizens not
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politicians now obviously they're presenting themselves as bipartisan disinterested citizens
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but when you dig a little deeper it looks as if these attacks against you is a pretty conservative
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political effort secretary of state good good afternoon to you um would you like to explain a little bit
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more about precisely what's going on in ohio right now yeah good afternoon ben well as it turns out
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the voters of ohio for now several years by large majorities have been putting republicans in charge of
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things and what that means is that republicans have held the majority on the redistricting commission
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that's existed in ohio for again for many many decades that draws the district lines by the way when we
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passed district lines in this last decennial redistricting process they got unanimous bipartisan
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support and were upheld of course by the courts as well but again that's not good enough for these
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leftists that want to take control of the process so they have circulated a petition to put a
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constitutional amendment on the ballot in ohio and they want to change the process to put well to put
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what they call a citizen commission together you all know how this works though what it ends up being
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is a bunch of unaccountable individuals and in many cases leftists that want to try to rig the maps
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you favor democrats now one of my responsibilities as the ohio secretary of state is to draft the ballot
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language and it's not so much that i have to be impartial it's that i have to be truthful i upheld my
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oath on friday along with our ballot board when we voted on truthful language that tells the voters
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what is in this 13 000 word amendment essentially requires the new commission if it passes to
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gerrymander in to create a certain number of districts for the democrats again that's not how
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this is supposed to work what we should do is draw competitive districts that keep communities together
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that are compact and then let the voters decide we just simply are putting accurate language in front
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of the voters so that they can make their decision and yes i use the word gerrymandering in there
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because the oxford english dictionary definition of gerrymandering is when you manipulate political
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districts to achieve a specific political outcome and in this case the political outcome they're looking
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for is to draw a certain number of democratic districts a certain number of republican districts
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and again i think the voters of ohio should know that well secretary of state it sounds to me very much
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like what's going on there in ohio is pretty identical and we're going to be digging into this a little
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later on the show with what's happening what's happening with the georgia election board as well
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seems to me that that uniparty republicans and democrats are banding together because they simply don't like
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the fact that people who are motivated by election integrity are starting to rise up the system and
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represent the the the valid concerns of a huge number of americans and voters tell me something sir
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because um ohio isn't um conventionally considered to be one of the six swing votes in in this election
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cycle but it is pretty crucial nonetheless um i i gather uh you you and your team are digging down
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on trying to do what uh three and a half months left trying to do something about the dirty voter rolls
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tell me what you've been uncovered there yeah so you're right that ohio is not really considered a swing
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state it's a it's a it's a trump state ohioans uh uh blue collar working class ohioans want to see
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that america first policy agenda put into place and so even people that are maybe lifelong democrats
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in say the mahoning valley area of ohio or places like toledo or where i grew up in akron are now voting
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republican and that's because we've earned it but it is a state that can still be competitive and we've
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got important races for the u.s senate my friend bernie moreno is running to defeat
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a radical leftist named sherrod brown that will perhaps be the race that makes the difference in
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taking back the senate majority and as you heard me talk about we're going to have a constitutional
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amendment on the ballot that could change the way ohio draws district lines that could have a really
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detrimental impact for many many years to come so here's what we do we take election integrity very
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seriously we check ids we actually refer people for prosecution when we catch them breaking the law and
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yes we maintain accurate voter rolls this is not a newfound interest i've been in this office now for
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five years we remove dead voters on a monthly basis we remove non-citizens in fact we just announced
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recently that another round we had been able to find over 500 non-citizens and remove them from the
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voter rolls and we're going to refer them for prosecution in fact we already have referred them to prosecutors
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so that they can be brought up on charges because again a law that's not uh enforced is not a law
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it's a suggestion and the law is very clear that u.s elections are only for u.s citizens
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what's going on here with the ohio supreme court is it going to make an intervention in this or is it
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still under consideration or is it as an appeal to it yet to be made well everything ends up being
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litigated it seems like these days in elections uh the left wants to try to make election law at the
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courthouse instead of the state house that's not the right place to do it and uh so i anticipate that
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the language that was written for the constitutional amendment will get uh challenged i've got uh
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challenges right now in federal courts right now we've defended successfully ohio's voter id laws by
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the way consider the hypocrisy of the democrats in chicago right now it takes an id to get into the
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democratic convention and there are miles of walls but they've been telling us that ids and walls
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are racist we know that that's not true they're simple smart techniques to protect the integrity of
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your process and so yeah these could end up in the supreme court we'll fight them and i'm confident
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we'll win just to go back to something you said uh maybe more or so ago on the the cleaning of the
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the voter laws could you just tell me what some of those numbers are looking like so far
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uh under your investigations yeah we've got eight million registered voters in the state of ohio
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and uh so the the good news is that the incidence of non-citizens it's a small number it's hundreds out
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of that uh eight million voter registration list but we take these seriously and when we find them
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we remove them it's an unnecessarily complex process by the way because the federal government does not
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cooperate with us as well as they should this is why chip roy's save act is so important and something
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that they should pass early next year but we go through the process we do the data entry in the
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most recent tranche we were able to remove like i said over 500 non-citizens from the voter rolls but
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also many tens of thousands of inactive registrations that had just become vacant for the last few years
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or had moved out of state voter list maintenance is like hygiene you've got to work on it every day
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and in ohio that's exactly what we do and of course there's huge vested interests um all over the place
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and not just in ohio to ensure to slow down uh the process of cleaning up voter rolls and that is
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there are vested interests that would like to see that process not undertaken is there anywhere that
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uh the war room posse or a high end specifically might go to to learn more about your constitutional
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amendment or or to support what you're doing yeah right there on our website voteohio.gov you can find
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all the information about the constitutional amendment of course i'm on all the social media
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platforms just at frank larose and if you follow us on there you're going to see what really is an
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example for other states to follow and our hope is that other states will follow our lead to make
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sure that we keep our elections honest and that the voters get to decide not somebody else that's a
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revolutionary idea frank larose secretary of state in the state of ohio thank you very much
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for coming on the show today and i look forward to catching up with you again soon thank you ben
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thank you well you know i think we're going to have um some of these themes that frank larose was just
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mentioning they're going to be sort of rippling on right throughout the show today um we're going to
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move on now to our next guest evan power who's the chair of the florida gop to talk about the
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primaries which are taking place tomorrow evan uh good morning thanks for coming on the show today
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uh obviously i think attention was directed towards congressman matt gates because kevin
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mccarthy had been uh trying to have uh have him primary deselected much like what successfully
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happened over in virginia to congressman bob good but uh sort of all accounts talking to you just
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before we came on the show that's not going to be the case tomorrow uh and you're telling me
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that congressman gates is is in a very comfortable position as of this moment um you know congressman
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gates is a very popular figure in north florida and he's going to win in a comfortable margin and
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i think people are getting out to vote and to send it back to washington because they know the good
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work he's been doing for them in washington um tell me what some of the wider uh soundings that
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you've heard are uh today uh running up into the primaries tomorrow evan what what what what are
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people saying there more generally across these primaries people in florida are excited to get out
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and vote they know the disaster that kamala harris will be so they're excited to vote in primaries
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if you look at our we just passed a million voter advantage here in florida but in the primaries
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our voters are turning out at much higher rate than ever before we have a seven percent voter
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advantage in primary turnout and to put that in context at this point in the primary uh four uh two
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years ago the democrats were up five four years ago they were up ten so we're doing extremely well
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turning out voters here in florida well here's a question that i have to ask you and it's something
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that's um that's obviously animating quite strongly the war room positive and this is the prospect
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that um that that the voter integrity issue hasn't substantially uh been dealt with following 2020
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and many of the powers who were involved in 2020 are still around and more than capable of trying the
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same sort of maneuvers again in 2024 how satisfied are you sir that the voter rolls in florida are clean
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enough to to prevent any um evil doing i'm really confident in the florida voter rolls our supervisors
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have done a great job of cleaning up those rolls if you look at what's happened since 2022
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about 700 000 democrats have become inactive to about 200 000 republicans and then we've added to our
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total so that's how you get to our million advantage but there's a lot less people on our
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voter roll right now which means that we have a much more secure process here in florida
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that's great news is there anything else you can tell me um in the run-up to these primaries tomorrow
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that you think the war in posse should be alert to and aware of well we have a lot of primaries out
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there you know obviously we want everyone to get out and vote um we have a lot of school board races
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and in florida that's been a big battleground so we need every republican to go turn out and vote
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here in florida for the primary and vote for their republican team but we're doing extremely well
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and we're excited about the enthusiasm we have and and i think it will carry over into the general
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election in november great stuff tell me something what's the deadline for voting tomorrow uh 7 p.m
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the polls close 7 p.m tomorrow night okay what time do polls open at 7 a.m so you get 12 hours
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of opportunity okay um and where do people go if they if they want uh some more information on this
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you know specifically i guess in the state of florida itself if you go to florida.gop you can
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find out information about the republican party and then if you go to vote.gop you can find out about
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your polling place okay evan power uh chairman of florida gop thank you very much indeed for coming
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on the show today we'll catch up again with you soon god bless thanks for having me ben
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okay cleata mitchell um now you're a lawyer who's been often in the news often uh linked to giving
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informal soundings to to president trump um you've got some good news for us today about the uh the new
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rules that are being passed by the georgia election board i think this is pretty much similar to the
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movements that that frankly rose was just talking about a few moments or so ago in ohio um but can
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you tell me this new rule um from what i gather it's an attempt to insist that that the three the
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three headline figures of voters of votes um ballots cast all align um which would be great news i think
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for anyone interested in election integrity absolutely there this is so important and we've been saying
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you know this is basic kindergarten map that the number of voters who show up to vote or who turn
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in ballots by mail or however they vote but the number of voters then must match the number of
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ballots issued that'll take into account every kind of ballot whether it's in person by mail provisional
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spoiled all of those matter all those need to be reconciled and that is what supports the number of
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votes that are counted but and that is the georgia law but there's no implementation of that by the
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159 counties in georgia so this election board rule was just adopted just a few minutes ago
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and of course it just implements the state statute requires reconciliation just like the bank teller
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or the grocery store clerk has to reconcile their cash store before they can leave for the day
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this would have to be completed before certification so then when you're certifying when the board is
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certifying the election results they're certifying to the accuracy of those election results now you
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would think that that would be common sense and nobody could oppose it but you would be wrong because
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mark elias all the left-wing groups all the uh the democracy groups the aclu the american bar association
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and the chairman of the state election board in georgia who's appointed by brian kent he's against it
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he spoke against it he voted no he voted with the one democrat so it was a three to two vote to adopt
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this common sense rule and the chairman of the board voted no john fervier and it's really outrageous
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but he always votes with the democrat always he waits to see if she votes no then he votes with her
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to make it a three to vote uh and he only votes when she votes no so uh there are other rules changes
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to try to make the election process in georgia conform to the state law to make sure that there
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is transparency that the records of the elections are made available to the public as they're supposed
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to be but have never been and this is how you keep voting machines from being abused and and and
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from problem and been reprogrammed to add ballots or to add votes because if you have to have all of
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these records you have to have all these procedures then you can try to protect the integrity of the
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election clita what would happen um in the case that one or two of these three sets of headline figures
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don't align what's what's the procedure what's the process well the procedure is that it's supposed to
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be done at the precinct level and uh and what happens is that if they don't align then they have to
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investigate and find out why it's just like if your cash store doesn't balance then you have to figure
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out why doesn't it balance what is the problem in 2020 we know that there were 3 000 double scanned
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ballots in fulton county well when you have a an election that's separated between trump and biden
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of 11 779 votes double scanning 3 000 ballots is a big issue if they had done the reconciliation
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required by law that would have been noted right then and there is is there a threshold here uh when
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you say they need to do an investigation if the vote tally is out by by just pick a ridiculous example
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but but to make the point if that if one of these figures is out by only one vote by what account of
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one um and you say that there needs to be an investigation um does that mean that the count
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um might not be decided that night um what are the the consequences of this what the statute provides
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is that all the other precincts that do reconcile are sent on to the county and that precinct it's
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you know like in the bible looking for the lost sheep there are not you know 10 sheep one is lost jesus
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goes to look the shepherd goes to look for the lost sheep and if they cannot figure out what happened
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that is then reported to the uh supervisor or the county attorney to be able to then say was there
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a was there a problem is that a pattern is but you look into it and if it's just you can't figure out
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what happened then there is the authority to just say we can't figure out why it's insignificant go ahead
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and count the ballots go ahead and count the votes from that precinct but it doesn't allow you to just
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ignore discrepancies and errors and there is data that shows by a group that came in after the election
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2020 looked at every county in georgia and found county after county after county where the the
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numbers just did not match and this the statute requires it but there's been no implementation and
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now there will be but i promise you you know the new york times cnn msnbc pro publica they've all done
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hit pieces against me against those of us in election integrity network who support these
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common sense provisions in state after state to require these numbers to match they didn't match
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in pennsylvania although the law requires it back in 2020 they didn't match in michigan they don't
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match they didn't match in arizona we have to make these numbers match though in fact the count
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has to be accurate we cannot expect people to trust these results if it's not accurate so that's what
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this is about okay so um it sounds to me as you're explaining it that if there are discrepancies
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they won't necessarily obstruct the process of deciding the election victory on the night but
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they will need to be uh formally given a justification saying that this is what the discrepancies they have
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to be officially noted and they can't be switched under the carpet uh clita you're a lawyer does this uh
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official um recognition of the discrepancies will this um aid perhaps the possibility the opportunities
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to further legal challenges down the road even after a result has been formally declared on the night
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can this can these discrepancies as they are now going to be duly and officially noted
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can they be uh grounds to take these things further in in the courts well two things in response first
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of all everything you get on election night is an unofficial result there is an entire week uh that
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goes on every state is slightly different in terms of how long it is before the unofficial results
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are uh canvassed canvassing means going back and double recounting to make sure that everything
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matches and then you know a week later or in some cases it's two weeks later then that is when the
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certification takes place there's always a time period between the unofficial results that you that
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we want to get on election night look at that's still only unofficial and certification doesn't take
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place until after a period of time where all of these numbers are reviewed to make sure they match and
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just remember the floor the georgia law requires it it just has been ignored and then but let me tell
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you what i was one of president trump's volunteers volunteer attorneys in georgia after the 2020 election
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and i can tell you that we brought an election contest after certification after the third recount
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all the numbers were different every time they recounted the numbers were different we brought an
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election contest we were able to show that there were more irregular votes that had been cast in
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candidate included in the margin in the vote totals than the margin between president trump and joe biden
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we never got a judge appointed to hear the case but the so people say well you know trump lost all
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these uh legal battles well he didn't lose ours because there was no there was never a hearing at
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our trial but the point is that it's very difficult to overturn an election it's very difficult to
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challenge an election and so you have to have a that is a burden and of course what the left is saying
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now is oh well just don't try to reconcile the numbers there are problems just do it after the
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election after it's certified because they know it can't be done they do not want the numbers to match
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they do not want to be able to document that the election was done correctly and i can't understand
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why anybody would oppose these rules unless they wanted to have a process that was not transparent
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where they could avoid following the law and that they didn't want to ensure accuracy in the results
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so i'm just glad that the uh that the rule passed they'll probably the left-wing crazies will no doubt
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file a lawsuit uh i'd like to see them not get a judge appointed for a period of time and just let the
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clock run but unfortunately that only happens to us it doesn't happen to bet but we'll see what
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happens but at the moment i'm very happy about that clita mitchell thanks very much for giving this
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debriefing on on the georgia state election board uh this afternoon uh we look forward to catching you
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back on the show uh of course thanks clita more to come great great catching up with you god bless
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um joe hoff you i know have been one of the leading figures um in in the election integrity
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it's something that you've you've covered uh quite a bit on the joe hoff show good afternoon to you
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uh what what what you you heard that the previous guest you heard you heard what clita was saying
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about the the georgia election board and what frank larose the secretary of state in ohio was saying
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um about voter integrity heading heading up to 2024 do you have any first takes uh on what you've heard
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on the show today that's great great information and it's great news and clita and her team have
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been doing a great job that ein is really trying to tackle uh the election integrity along with some
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other great groups out there since uh the 2020 election what i call the steal i wrote three books
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about it and um and so there's other groups out there united sovereign americans are trying to go
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through some lawfare to try to get these uh there are processes in place so that our elections are fair
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and transparent as well as cause of america lindell's group slita's group our group which is state
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2024 which i'm gonna talk about here in a moment and um all these other groups that are out there
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true the vote so many people are working to make this place uh you know this this election better
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unfortunately we've got a you know one hell of a task and um and then my background is in is in
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corporate audit i worked for a fortune 500 firm did audits around the world two three hundred and
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mentioned this time to offer some credibility to what i'm about to say here uh we believe that the
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2020 election or 2024 election the way that we can possibly save it is through by protecting the
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paper and i'm going to get into that but where where did i come up with this well uh after after
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auditing basically the 2020 election what what hit me especially in my second book was that this election
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never should have been certified and therefore it was stolen case by case by case we accepted basically
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fraud wrongdoing shoddy work and and it's something that we would never do in the corporate world so i
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worked and did finance i oversaw a billion dollar in financials at one time in my career i've done audits
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around the world and i got to tell you when you are done and you're in a financial audit and you want
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to make sure everything's clean you bring in the external auditor to sign off on it you provide them
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everything they ask without exception internal auditors as well you give them everything every corporation has
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the employees sign a code of conduct that says you will work with the auditors and give them everything
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they want the top the board who i've dealt with many boards around the world want to know that these
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welcome back to the war room harnwell here at the helm um i'm here with joe hoft uh joe i'm looking at
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this article that's up on joe hoft dot com right now because you've delineated a strategy which has
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three principal pillars to it which is guard validate and reconcile the balance could you just expand a
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little bit on on this strategy yeah thanks ben and and you know and and maybe expounding a bit
00:35:27.020
first on on my experience in the past doing audits around the world i was thinking about the other day
00:35:31.660
i was in i've done audits in communist china these people handed me gladly everything that i asked for
00:35:36.780
when i did the audit our elections right now are not certifiable because we can't get our hands on all
00:35:42.220
this information so hat tip to georgia to move forward and make sure that we can count at least all the
00:35:47.900
ballots before the before certifying elections and what we learned in 2020 is if you're not in first
00:35:53.420
you and when the accounting's done then good luck because uh the ports aren't there for us nor is the uh
00:36:00.300
uh this doj etc so this group of professionals i got together we we looked at this as a whole like
00:36:06.460
we would as an audit team and we said hey what are the processes in the election we came up with around
00:36:12.300
500 or so controls from these 13 or so you know key processes and determined that only a third are in
00:36:19.260
place so we're starting off behind the wheel this election process in the us is broken so then we
00:36:25.020
started looking at what are the things we can do one was voter rolls and by the way this individual
00:36:29.660
chris jerky with people's audit he's responsible in my opinion for cleaning up those voter rolls and
00:36:35.420
in florida working with a lot of local patriots across the board in multiple counties he forwarded them
00:36:41.500
reports that showed these individuals that shouldn't be in the voter rolls and they approached
00:36:45.900
their uh their supervisors of elections and got those removed so there's some great work around
00:36:51.900
the country he's doing other states as well right now and a hat tip to him so voter rolls is one way
00:36:57.500
i think uh harry harry and his team with the united sovereign americans and in challenging the
00:37:02.140
courts to ensure that our elections are free and fair he's doing that and we were okay what left can we
00:37:07.500
do and that that we landed on this we need to reconcile every single paper ballot that comes
00:37:12.620
into the into the system and and veneswellia just did this if you might recall ben in their recent
00:37:18.860
election of course the people that were standing up against the regime there made copies of all these
00:37:24.380
documents uh in their elections were able to obtain 80 of those copies and believe based on that alone
00:37:31.900
they won that election so this is in theory similar to what we're recommending here in the us and the
00:37:38.620
thing is are there elections there are one day and there's no mail in so they're all at various precincts
00:37:44.220
so we put together one report that says here's the things you can do with the local precinct and what you
00:37:49.180
should do on election day and here's the reconciliations you should perform and you can work those local
00:37:55.420
supervisors of elections and validate these numbers and so that everybody's happy when we're done
00:38:00.860
it's right and i think most supervisors of elections in america want to come to the same conclusion that
00:38:06.860
and whether who who wins is almost irrelevant is that the process is correct and that's the same
00:38:13.340
attitude i had in running a billion dollar block of business and finance i didn't care what the results
00:38:18.860
were so much as are they accurate that's that was my mandate overseeing those financials so that's what we
00:38:25.020
have to do here we put out another paper saying here's what we need to do at these vote by mail
00:38:31.580
centralized centers and there's various things we need to check there that are different than at the
00:38:36.780
precincts and as you recall they're coming in early we need to reconcile our numbers with the post office
00:38:42.060
we need to reconcile our numbers with the ballots that are coming in we need to get our hands around all
00:38:46.860
these now there's a hundred and eighty thousand people observers that are willing to help out we need
00:38:51.820
more we need people to love these areas and make sure that a single ballot is not entered into this
00:38:57.900
election that isn't legit in 2020 we saw vans pull up uh in detroit and early in the morning unloaded ballots
00:39:05.260
we had philadelphia locking us out of a room for three days while they manufactured ballots we had truck
00:39:11.260
drivers bringing ballots across from new york and pennsylvania everything was uh you know it was it was
00:39:17.340
it was a free for all and it never should have been certified and there isn't a there isn't a
00:39:22.140
professional auditor with integrity in this world that would have certified that election i tell you
00:39:26.860
proof of that is the fact that not one single big four firm stepped in and said we'd like to audit this
00:39:32.540
because they knew that the results were garbage and their and that entity would be threatened by this
00:39:38.620
regime from that day forward so all the big four firms stayed out we've got to do that ourselves it's up to
00:39:45.260
us and we can't count on anybody else we really can't count on the rnc they're they're congratulating
00:39:51.980
themselves for cleaning up voter rolls in in florida when i believe they had very little to do with that
00:39:58.140
they've got a good governor and good policies but the work in cleaning up the voter rolls was local patriots
00:40:04.860
working with the the people's audit who sent them documents that said these names are not correct and we
00:40:10.380
could tell that because their names didn't match the postal records which we know were maintained and
00:40:16.860
up to date every day so that's the kind of smart stuff we need to do we need to reconcile everything
00:40:23.420
and not let anything enter this election that's not legit and when we're done those ballots need to match
00:40:29.980
the total total counts and and uh clita mentioned this before me and she's right and that you know we'd be
00:40:36.140
i've actually reached out to their team they're interested in talking to us about the work that
00:40:40.620
we're doing so is uh cause for america so are other groups we need to get together and do this together
00:40:46.780
and we can win but i'm telling you the task is high because who's words of all the controls that should be
00:40:54.220
in place in u.s elections are not there because of this whacked out system that we've slowly accepted over
00:41:00.940
time like the the boiling of the water with a frog in it you know it's it's getting hot now
00:41:08.300
i just want to underline for the war room posse joe that your um your advice your counsel here on this
00:41:16.300
strategy is built upon your your professional advice then as an auditor um about about making
00:41:23.420
sure the importance of making sure that that all these things tie up that that uh that article that
00:41:29.100
that i mentioned that i repeat that's on that's on your website joehoff.com um sort of pushing the
00:41:36.060
the three pillars of guard validate um and reconcile has that that that sort of that strategy is what
00:41:43.180
has been institutionalized if i might use put it that way within the the wider fate 2024 project
00:41:51.900
that's right and then we agree with this our our effort now is to really push this out work with some
00:41:56.700
other groups for example true the votes said they have a mechanism built in place where they can get
00:42:01.580
data going back and forth with these local precincts and individual we could utilize that we could there's
00:42:07.020
a lot of work that we can all do together to save this election it's more than just signing up new voters
00:42:12.300
we've got to stop the steel the steel is the fact that they're certifying garbage that never should have
00:42:18.460
been certified ever and we can't let them do that again we we're all for uh you know if they win
00:42:24.780
legitimately okay we move on but we're not going to do this thing again where they're just going to
00:42:29.420
certify a bunch a pile of garbage it's not it's that's not the american way we shouldn't accept that
00:42:35.260
and quite frankly that's why we're doing this okay that's um that's pretty impressive and inspiring job
00:42:43.420
just uh you mentioned your three books again um before you go would you just kind of just run through
00:42:49.420
them uh where folks can get hold of them a bit more about fate 2024 about uh if they want to to
00:42:57.180
go to the website a bit back joehoff.com so many things you're you're involved with right now yeah
00:43:03.420
yeah thanks ben as you know i've been a contributor to the gaily pundit for years with my twin brother
00:43:07.660
jim and uh you know and so you can see some of my articles there i also have a website now joehoff.com
00:43:13.660
where i share articles as well as my uh my shows that are on the uh lindell uh tv frank speech along
00:43:21.100
with uh along with the band steve bannon in the war room and then i also and we have this website
00:43:27.020
set up it's called fate 2024 where you can go direct to get some of this information related to
00:43:32.140
the 2024 election we encourage you to go there see we've even built templates that you can grab and use
00:43:37.980
uh for reconciling items in this upcoming election so that's what we're trying to provide and push to
00:43:49.740
joe hoff um thanks very much for coming on the show we will have a we'll push out your uh your
00:43:55.580
social media stuff and the references that we mentioned on our own warren.org website uh great
00:44:01.500
to have you back on the show soon i hope uh to brief us all on on the progress the important
00:44:06.700
progress that you're making thanks very much god bless thanks thanks so much ben take care
00:44:10.700
thank thanks joe um okay so quickly because we don't have a we're moving towards accelerating towards
00:44:18.460
the end of this hour uh let's bring on now josh hammer the leading uh opinion editor at newsweek
00:44:26.700
magazine uh josh good afternoon to you there's some big news out today from dc um obviously caught my
00:44:35.740
eye straight away considering how successfully the democrats when donald trump was was president that
00:44:43.180
how they blocked two years basically of his legislative agenda with their uh their inquiries and their
00:44:49.980
their impeachment uh proceeds um it now appears not that joe biden has two years of a legislative agenda
00:45:01.420
left but it now appears that the republicans might be in a position if they wanted to to uh to do the
00:45:08.540
same thing back uh to joe biden what came out of congress this morning well ben always great to join you
00:45:16.940
so congress has now formally and by congress i mean house republicans have formally concluded
00:45:23.820
after their congressman jim comer inquiry he comer of course being the oversight committee chair from
00:45:29.820
kentucky and the republicans on house oversight had had this committee that was looking into the
00:45:35.100
possible filing of impeachment articles against president joe biden so their their conclusion which
00:45:40.220
which is brand new as of earlier today is that joe biden did commit impeachable offenses over the
00:45:46.380
course of his career involving his son hunter biden using his influence especially going back when he
00:45:52.060
was vice president to barack obama when it comes to hunter biden's involvement with barisma and his
00:45:57.500
various other overseas dealings especially in romania and china which by the way is actually
00:46:02.380
very relevant for present purposes given given the fact that hunter biden's second federal trial his
00:46:07.660
tax trial is going to get started here in just the next three to four weeks or so out in california
00:46:13.100
and the special counsel in that particular case david weiss actually just introduced in that trial
00:46:19.100
proceeding last week the fact that he is planning to introduce his evidence hunter biden taking money
00:46:25.180
from a romanian oligarch and then simultaneously you had a report last week that apparently when
00:46:29.980
joe biden was vice president hunter biden was was urging people at the u.s state department to get
00:46:36.060
barisma the ukrainian company a contract in italy and this was happening literally when joe biden was
00:46:42.380
vice president so you know connecting the dots here that's basically what this report from congressman
00:46:46.860
comer and house oversight republicans did and they conclude that joe biden did commit did commit
00:46:51.340
impeachable offenses now i do have to give my own two cents on this ben which is the fact that
00:46:56.220
this is kind of classic republican party tactics right and i don't say that necessarily in a good
00:47:01.740
way i i'm obviously very conservative guy but i'm never afraid to criticize my own party when i feel
00:47:05.820
they deserve it i mean this is what republicans do time and time and time again they have something
00:47:10.860
that is potentially catchy and now they're going to release this report conclusion after the democrats
00:47:16.220
have already cooed out joe biden for kamala harris they're going to release this and this conclusion
00:47:20.780
during the midst of the august recess when joe biden is is a total aftermath i mean where was this
00:47:26.380
report like a month or two ago so i i mean the timing is is is suspect at best but the the conclusion
00:47:33.580
seems correct to me so you know i guess if nothing else i'm happy that that the conclusion is out there
00:47:38.140
but this this unfortunately ben is just the house republican establishment doing what they do worse which
00:47:43.820
is just totally botching the timing on this whole ordeal well there's a reason a very good reason why uh
00:47:51.020
on uh on my getter feed mike johnson speaker johnson is called uh speaker no johnson because at every
00:48:00.060
single opportunity he seems to be uh enthusiastic to confirm he doesn't have one um so the um so the
00:48:09.260
the report comes out today and the headline quote is of course impeachable conduct uh and yet now all
00:48:16.220
eyes are looking on uh on republican house leadership as you as you were suggesting um to see what the
00:48:22.620
next steps are some people are suggesting josh um that speaker johnson isn't going to want isn't going to
00:48:30.540
support and actually an impeachment uh against joe biden in the remained the remaining months of this
00:48:37.260
congress that would somewhat tie in to what you were suggesting as to why drop it now in the middle
00:48:42.460
of august right perhaps they want to score a couple of points perhaps they want to try and stay somewhat
00:48:48.380
to the new cycle as the democrats are just about uh starting their week-long um convention in chicago
00:48:55.820
perhaps that's what you know that that's what that's really the the focus between now so it's just
00:49:02.220
just kind of hijacked the democrats news cycle for a couple days rather than do anything substantial
00:49:09.820
about uh the biden presidency which would confirm every criticism the war room posse would have
00:49:16.860
about uh house leadership but it is totally and only and uniquely performative
00:49:23.740
yeah i mean this has all the optics ben of a classic you know friday late afternoon early evening
00:49:29.580
bury the lead sort of news dump i mean every so often when you see an administration that is trying
00:49:33.420
to make sure that no one talks about a news story they they will slip it to a media source or issue
00:49:37.900
a formal press release at like 6 7 pm on a friday late afternoon this this very much feels like that
00:49:44.700
look my my own speculation it is only that is speculation i i think that that the republican party
00:49:51.420
at an institutional level is embarrassed is actually embarrassed by their grassroots supporters
00:49:57.340
and activists desire to see justice happen to the biden crime family i think that that the house
00:50:02.940
and senate republican establishment the the rnc basically the whole apparatus
00:50:08.380
not only do they not care to actually get justice for hunter biden for joe biden for for all this
00:50:14.780
influence peddling they positively want to kick it to the curb and and never see it anymore they'd rather
00:50:20.860
talk about you know their grand old issues when it comes to cutting cutting corporate taxes and you know
00:50:26.620
neoliberal free trade and neoconservative boondoggles overseas in in russia or afghanistan places like
00:50:33.820
that i mean they have their priorities unfortunately those priorities are not the priorities of the
00:50:38.140
actual republican voters of conservative activists across the country here and i think that that that's
00:50:43.180
seeing some sort of justice for the biden crime family for both joe biden and the presidential
00:50:47.740
prodigal son hunter biden i think that very much fits into that huge huge chasm between the actual
00:50:53.500
institutional party and the party supporters throughout the base it says it says something to me josh that
00:51:00.940
the democrats led by nancy pelosi then speaker uh led an important impeachment against donald trump on
00:51:08.780
the basis of a phone call uh that donald trump always famously called a perfect phone call with of all
00:51:14.700
people um vladimir zelensky of um of ukraine the the impeachable material that the house gop has
00:51:24.780
identified with regards to the biden family however is somewhat more substantial than a telephone call
00:51:30.860
it's citing um that they traced 27 million dollars in payments to biden family members and their
00:51:39.100
associates from foreign entities based off the back that at that time joe biden was vice president of
00:51:44.860
the united states this would seem to be uh really what the democrats didn't have when they impeached
00:51:51.660
donald trump which is genuinely valid impeach of impeach worthy material the question look you you in a
00:51:58.700
minute the closing minutes are on of this chat josh um it seems to me that um that the democrats produced far
00:52:08.940
more numbers to impeach donald trump than what uh the republicans are if they are to move forward with
00:52:15.660
impeaching um joe biden and that says a lot of itself right um why just just look in in 30 seconds can
00:52:25.180
you tell me why are some commentators saying that mike johnson doesn't have the numbers for an
00:52:30.700
impeachment when technically he ought to do well look republicans have a very narrow margin in the
00:52:36.540
house and i don't think it's i don't think it's breaking much news ban to say that not every republican
00:52:41.180
there in the house you know has the spine or has the fortitude of of a chip roy or matt gates someone
00:52:47.500
like that i mean you you have a lot of weak-kneed republicans i think would be an understatement i
00:52:51.900
mean that's something of an evergreen statement as well if i may say so but you're totally right
00:52:56.540
when it comes to hunter biden trying to get this contract for burisma trying to pressure u.s state
00:53:00.860
department for it which we learned just a week or two ago back when joe biden was vice president
00:53:05.180
the romanian oligarch payoff which is going to be introduced at trial in california in a few weeks
00:53:09.660
i mean this to say that this is more serious than the four and a half five page transcript of a phone
00:53:15.420
call between trump and zelensky 2019 i mean it's not even a comparison it's literally not even
00:53:20.700
a comparison unfortunately you know as is often the case the democratic party is playing chess
00:53:25.420
while republicans are simply playing checkers josh hammer thanks so much stupendous analysis
00:53:32.460
as always uh where do people go to to get hold of of your outfits on newsweek yeah always a pleasure
00:53:38.780
ben thank you so i'm on uh x josh underscore hammer instagram is josh b hammer host two shows
00:53:43.420
the josh hammer show and america on trial with josh hammer you can also follow our work at the
00:53:47.180
article three project as well brilliant josh hammer thanks very much for going on the show
00:53:51.900
catch up again with you soon god bless god bless you ben so in the final moments we have some news
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from the founder of of this program mo bannon captain bannon uh welcome good afternoon um tell me you've
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got you've got a message from your dad right i do ben thank you for having me on um he's doing just as
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good today as he was before he went in he asked about the posse every single day most of the emails
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i get are asking how the posse is doing how the show is doing if they love the show um he we provide
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him updates daily on the show and about the posse and the messages that we are getting so he's very
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grateful for all the messages that we are sending him um but he wants us to focus on two main things
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going into november he wants us to focus on getting out the vote efforts and also election workers to
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stop the steal so he wants people to i get everyone misses him and we will continue to miss him until he
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gets out and gets back behind the mic but he wants us to stay focused on getting america first candidates
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elected and to get donald j trump back in the white house and a win on november 5th and back in the
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white house in january in 2025 so if if everyone makes sure to get involved and and do things even
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at the local level that is all we can do that's what we can do for my dad captain bannon thanks very
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much for that and of course we can always remember steve in our prayers and pray that the holy spirit
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sustains him in this trial right okay she's gone maureen bannon thanks very much thank you posse uh
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