In public and policy conversations, talk of human-level AI is often treated as either science fiction or marketing hype. But many top AI companies, including Open AI and Google, are treating building AI as an entirely serious goal, and a goal that many people inside those companies think they might reach in the next 10 or 20 years, and some believe it could be as close as 1 to 3 years away.
00:00:00.000this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:11.920people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:18.900authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
00:00:24.800like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:29.540misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:33.840the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
00:00:40.880your host Stephen K Bannon in public and policy conversations talk of human level AI is often
00:00:48.180treated as either science fiction or marketing hype but many top AI companies including open AI
00:00:54.380Google anthropic are treating building AGI as an entirely serious goal and a goal that many people
00:01:00.780inside those companies think they might reach in 10 or 20 years and some believe could be as close as one
00:01:06.800to three years away more to the point many of these same people believe that if they succeed in building
00:01:13.040computers that are as smart as humans or perhaps far smarter than humans that technology will be at a
00:01:19.340minimum extraordinarily disruptive and at a maximum could lead to literal human extinction the companies
00:01:26.420in question often say that it's too early for any regulation because the science of how AI works and how
00:01:32.400to make it safe is too nascent I'd like to restate that in different words they're saying we don't have good
00:01:39.620science of how these systems work or how to tell when they'll be smarter than us we don't have good
00:01:44.840science for how to make sure they won't cause massive harm but don't worry the main factors
00:01:50.180driving our decisions are profit incentives and unrelenting market pressure to move faster than
00:01:54.980our competitors so we promise we're being extra extra safe just in general is your impression now is it
00:02:00.440was open AI doing enough in terms of its safety procedures and protocols to adequately vet its own
00:02:08.120products and to protect the public I think it depends entirely on how rapidly their research progresses
00:02:13.640if their most aggressive predictions of how more how quickly their systems will get more advanced
00:02:18.020are correct then I have serious concerns if they their predictions their most aggressive predictions may
00:02:22.920well be wrong in which case I'm somewhat less concerned and I think that it's very very important that we be
00:02:28.340prepared for a variety of threats those threats could include deepfakes of election officials of
00:02:33.620candidates like yourselves and also deepfakes that present election apparatus in them that indicate that
00:02:41.840there was was tampering with physical objects associated with the election in two bills that I
00:02:47.080mentioned earlier that I worked on in California that are currently awaiting signature fingers crossed by
00:02:51.840Governor Newsom Assembly Bill 2655 by Mark Berman Assembly Bill 2839 by Gail Pellerin those would actually
00:02:58.820have serious consequences so that if someone posted those types of election deepfakes they could be
00:03:05.060removed that platforms would be required to remove them yeah well our bill allows for them it's many of them are
00:03:11.240actually supporting this bill because it makes it clear the platforms are that they would have to take
00:03:17.480it down but it also puts liability on the people that put those up yeah potential liability the police will be on
00:03:23.900their best behavior because we record we're constantly recording watching and recording everything that's going
00:03:30.240on citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going
00:03:37.040on it's unimpeachable the cars the cars have camera you know cameras on them all right you we have I think we have a squad car here someplace
00:03:44.700uh but those kind of applications using AI if we can use AI and we're using AI to monitor the video so it's not people that are looking at those cameras it's AI that's looking at the camera no no no you can't do this it would be like a shooting that's going to be immediately that's going to be an event that's immediately
00:04:03.280uh an alarm is going to be an alarm is going to go off it's going to be and uh we're going to we're going to have supervision in other words every police officer is going to be supervised
00:04:16.360uh and and if there's a problem AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate person whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whom
00:04:26.560whomever we need to um take control of the situation we have you know same thing we have drones we just
00:04:34.500if there's something going on in a shopping center and I'll stop a drone goes out there I get there way faster than a police car
00:04:40.440there's no reason for by the way high speed chases you shouldn't have high speed chases between cars
00:04:46.220you just have a drone follow the car I mean it's very very simple and then new generation generation of autonomous
00:04:52.720drones good evening it is September 19th in the year of our lord 2024 I am Joe Allen sitting in for
00:04:59.960Stephen K Bannon who still sits in prison unjustly what you heard there at the beginning is the
00:05:06.820recent senate subcommittee on the on privacy technology and the law Helen Toner the first speaker
00:05:17.120uh was on the board of open AI before she was ousted after after raising the alarm that open AI was being
00:05:25.380reckless with the technologies that they are developing the real issue that we hear there is not necessarily
00:05:34.080the existential threat of AI coming alive and killing everybody it's not necessarily the threat of deep
00:05:43.020fakes although this is going to be a major problem going forward I would say that the real problem of
00:05:49.780artificial intelligence which has already invaded our lives like soulless insects is that we now have
00:05:57.600non-human entities that can speak to us that can listen to us that can produce very dramatic illusions
00:06:07.780such as video content or visual content and we are being primed for a symbiosis with these entities we are
00:06:17.320already seeing in schools children being acculturated to speaking to non-human entities and trusting them
00:06:26.220to give them accurate information we're already seeing the the AI rolled out across corporations
00:06:33.220government agencies and even in religious institutions to help people through their prayer lives what we're
00:06:42.840facing is not necessarily something that Congress or any state government is going to be able to
00:06:50.120prepare us for protect us from or control what we're facing is a broad cultural revolution in which
00:07:01.000our closest companions aren't necessarily going to be human beings for many people it's going to be
00:07:09.100machines and as you heard there at the end of the video with Larry Ellison of Oracle Oracle being a major
00:07:18.140contractor with both the U.S. government and the intelligence agencies of the U.S. government we hear there this
00:07:26.960vision of artificial intelligence allowing surveillance to basically be a behavioral modification program
00:07:35.760so that if everyone knows that they're being watched then everyone will be incentivized to alter their
00:07:44.500behavior as such on the one hand Ellison is speaking about surveillance of the police I think that
00:07:52.700to a large extent many of us can relate to the desire for the police to be under as much surveillance as
00:08:01.080ourselves but it won't be just the police already after over 20 years after the Patriot Act we are already
00:08:13.280seeing the fruits of mass surveillance not only in the stifling of political dissent but also the
00:08:21.920overarching sentiment that privacy is becoming a kind of quaint desire that no longer can you expect
00:08:32.120to be your own person in your own realm but you are inevitably invariably part of a larger technological
00:08:41.400system one which you are impacting and one which will impact you one which is constantly monitoring
00:08:50.800your every move and in the end perhaps silencing you or even seeing you put in prison for something you
00:09:02.700simply said I want to bring in Noor bin Laden but before there's a video I think it should give you a good
00:09:10.780idea of what the sentiment is in the Democratic Party in regard to free speech and censorship so Denver if
00:09:19.000you could roll that he has he has lost his privileges and it should be taken down and the bottom line
00:09:23.980is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter
00:09:27.880the same rule has to apply which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social
00:09:35.000media sites to understand their power they are directly speaking to millions and millions of people
00:09:41.460without any level of oversight or regulation and that has to stop I think we need to push back on this
00:09:49.180there there's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially
00:09:53.900around our democracy Trump back in 2016 but I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind
00:10:02.600of propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that
00:10:10.740would be a better deterrence excellencies ladies and gentlemen yet laws your annual global risk report makes for a
00:10:24.380stunning and sobering read for the global business community the top concern for the next two years is not
00:10:34.060conflict or climate it is disinformation and misinformation followed closely by polarization within our societies these
00:10:47.740risks are serious because they limit our ability to tackle the big global challenges we are facing
00:10:55.580changes in our climate and our geopolitical climate shifts in our demography and in our technology
00:11:07.820spiraling regional conflicts and intensify geopolitical competition and their impacts on supply chains
00:11:17.260the sobering reality is that we are once again competing more intensely across countries than we have in
00:11:28.140several decades and this makes the theme of this year's Davos meeting even more relevant rebuilding trust
00:11:40.540this is not a time for conflicts or polarization this is a time to build trust
00:11:47.260trust this is a time to drive global collaboration more than ever before this requires immediate and
00:11:57.500structural responses to match the size of the global challenges I believe it can be done and I believe
00:12:07.180that Europe can and must take the lead in shaping that global response
00:12:12.780the starting point for that is to look deeper at the global risk report to map out a way forward
00:12:25.820many of the solutions lie not only in countries working together but crucially on businesses and governments
00:12:34.620business and democracies working together it has never been more important for the public and private
00:12:42.620sector to create new connective tissue because none of these challenges respects borders
00:12:52.060they each require collaboration to manage risks and to forge a path forward
00:13:02.140rebuilding trust I am not feeling that nor bin Laden welcome thank you very much for joining us
00:13:09.260are you feeling your trust levels increase after hearing that riveting speech not not at all Joe quite on the
00:13:18.860contrary and I think this is a very important clip which is why I wanted to share it once more with the posse
00:13:25.660because we covered it back in January in Davos where Ursula von der Leyen was speaking and giving this address to
00:13:35.500open the world economic forum um annual meeting uh in Davos and um it's um it's incredibly telling how
00:13:47.660they really are working so hard with all of these stakeholders in order to quell any form of speech and to quell
00:13:57.020any form of dissent and um on the on the heels of the other um clips that you played you know Hillary Clinton
00:14:04.620um most notably was calling for even their arrest of uh certain uh members of the population who are
00:14:12.940calling out you know these excesses and these unjust um unconstitutional measures that are being
00:14:21.740deployed against the population without their consent um you have you know the the WEF and these globalist
00:14:29.260institutions that are continuing with this agenda on the 9th of September just a couple of weeks ago
00:14:34.940they published their annual WEF reports for 2023 and 2024 and once more misinformation and disinformation
00:14:44.060is at the center of the report and calls for collaboration just as Ursula von der Leyen
00:14:51.740said back in January are reiterated between all of these different stakeholders between the corporations
00:14:58.060between the politicians these minions these you know oligarchs uh these international organizations and
00:15:06.540institutions our governments all working hand in hand to um limit the population from speaking out of
00:15:16.140this tightening grip and the erosion of our liberties you know already we've seen we've covered uh a lot
00:15:25.740the uk protests and in the aftermath many people being hauled off to jail for something they posted online
00:15:32.460you have examples here in america douglas mackie uh for just a kind of a joke tweet uh spent time in in prison
00:15:41.900for it and you can tell um without any shadow of a doubt that the machine is right on the edge of rolling over
00:15:52.060american citizens not because of things they did but because of things they said i'm myself i'm actually quite
00:15:59.980concerned about the spread of misinformation and disinformation but the real problem i see
00:16:06.140is that these organizations are positioning themselves to determine what is and is not
00:16:11.260misinformation and disinformation and they are also the purveyors of a lot of mis and disinformation
00:16:19.020you just recently wrote an article about a colleague of yours who in switzerland was uh convicted and fined
00:16:27.420indian for i guess you would call it something inflammatory i thought it was quite funny um
00:16:32.460can you what is the title of the article and can you tell us a little bit about that
00:16:37.420sure joe but first bouncing off of what you just said they are absolutely the main purveyors of
00:16:43.500misinformation and disinformation and uh because we are noticing that and calling it out and trying to
00:16:50.220share truthful and truthful information they are basically inverting uh the reality and um you know
00:16:57.820that that speech from ursula von der leyen had many many important points that she made and she did
00:17:03.820mention that this is something that is uh beyond borders you know that it impacts all countries and you
00:17:11.260rightly pointed out you know different cases in different countries you know the us obviously but also the uk we
00:17:17.260saw over the summer i also wrote an article about that in sock unmasked talking about how people were
00:17:23.900being sent to jail for retweets um you know coming out of the of members of the government's own mouths
00:17:30.540you know on tape um uh threatening the population uh if they were to even just retweet a post that would
00:17:37.980supposedly lead to these um protests excuse me in the street and uh it's it's across the board
00:17:47.180and in switzerland as well uh i wrote an article entitled the end of free speech in switzerland
00:17:52.860because there are quite a few cases of ordinary citizens who are being fined hefty sums and also
00:18:00.620risk going to jail for mere tweets and this indeed did happen to a friend of mine who goes by the
00:18:08.060the the non-name of barbui and he told he he tweeted a single world a single word uh below a um a video
00:18:18.220that was uh denouncing you know the propaganda the lgbtqqa plus whatever um indoctrination in classrooms
00:18:27.820here in switzerland and uh my friend just called out this indoctrination and he's facing you know close to
00:18:34.780seven thousand um uh dollars uh equivalent uh of a fine and uh two years probation you know it's
00:18:43.500it's just absolutely insane what is going on across the west and uh we are truly living under the false
00:18:50.700pretense that we have freedoms here uh freedoms that are increasingly and exponentially eroding by the day
00:18:58.220and it is absolutely critical that we talk about these things before we are completely locked up
00:19:05.180in these digital gulags that they have been preparing for us and the the the step the key
00:19:11.180step for them why they are so intent on focusing on misinformation and disinformation being the number
00:19:18.540one threat it's because without our voice without the ability to call out there are many many different
00:19:25.500machinations in the first place then we don't stand a chance and uh coming back to the opening
00:19:33.100video that you shared you know this this digital dystopia that they have that they have built and in
00:19:39.660which they want to imprison us the walls are closing in very rapidly uh joe and it is absolutely
00:19:46.460imperative that we that we stand up against it and very firmly so you know there's a tension that i see
00:19:54.620here and we'll be bringing in tim hinchliffe on the other side i'd actually like to hold you over uh
00:20:00.540and just to come back at the beginning of the next block and talk about the new project that you are
00:20:07.180working on and that you've just launched but uh just on that note with larry ellison he of course
00:20:13.660is a frequent flyer at the world economic forum but what you see with ellison is it's i think a point
00:20:20.300that i try to make a lot these are this is not some monolithic just completely homogenous blob
00:20:27.900coming out of davos larry ellison you could say is very much on the much more on the conservative
00:20:34.060end of that spectrum and even if he's a part of that system he is much less inclined towards any sort
00:20:40.860of socialist measures that would see money redistributed redistributed to uh you know less uh wealthy
00:20:48.300people he is much more inclined towards you know minimizing regulation as opposed to the the highly
00:20:56.380regulated programs you hear a lot there and you see that right now with trump and the people in his camp
00:21:03.260from the tech sector so that you've got elon musk peter teal mark andreason ben horowitz these people
00:21:11.900want to see a very different kind of dystopia still dystopian in my eyes but uh if you just uh in the the
00:21:19.980two and a half minutes we have left what are your thoughts on that tension between these these vying
00:21:26.140powers within that uh central kind of global system well actually i'm i'm not sure i agree with you uh joe on
00:21:35.900this point uh because although there are some elements or there are certain factions and there
00:21:41.980is a competition there when you look at most of these oligarchs and i would call them you know
00:21:47.660manufactured characters that are put on this central stage to lead um certain of these projects but you
00:21:54.700know they essentially come from the same source which is the american uh deep state when we talk about the
00:22:01.580big tech companies um and uh you know larry ellison was assigned to the cia's project oracle and it's
00:22:09.580from that project uh that the company oracle was born and uh it's the case of most of these big tech
00:22:17.820companies and on that note i would really encourage uh the posse to go watch james corbett's 45 minute
00:22:24.940um mini documentary entitled the secrets of silicon valley what big tech doesn't want you to know
00:22:32.940and it goes more into the details of how silicon valley was born and how you know companies like
00:22:38.220facebook um you know it's that's quite well known it was a darpa project uh called life log and the day
00:22:45.980that they killed the project the company the facebook was uh was born and there are many such um
00:22:53.500stories when it comes to to big tech and i think there is very much a concerted effort um
00:23:00.940by the powers that be the this elite that is uh very shadowy and working behind the scenes
00:23:07.660to uh to advance this this agenda that you know on its face may present um certain differences but at
00:23:17.580the end of the day uh the goal uh or the road very much leads to the same bleak place
00:23:25.180i would certainly agree with it leading to at least similar bleak places but i guess we'll have to
00:23:30.060agree to disagree on the uniformity of the uh elite powers i think it's going to be much more complex
00:23:36.940behind that um that curtain than any uh series of trails leading back to intelligence would would allow
00:23:44.540for but uh on that note we will come back uh after the uh commercial break and noor has a very very
00:23:53.820special project she has just launched uh i look forward to hearing about it and i hope you do too stay
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00:30:18.940all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground with stephen k bannon
00:30:25.740you like the idea that you're an individual and think your own thoughts if you have one thought in
00:30:33.580your life that is uniquely your own you are extremely lucky you will strongly object to this statement
00:30:40.540reality would disagree with you cultural programming from your parents and greater environment have you
00:30:46.540locked into its way of seeing things by the time you are three years old you were given a menu of options
00:30:53.420choose yours and act those choices there is no option for the original you in this scenario all this
00:31:01.260programming is controlled by middlemen middlemen who profit from your directed thought this is no news
00:31:09.020it has gone on for centuries but now it is different now the digital world completely
00:31:14.540dictates how the ball rolls down your internal slots and you shall obey
00:31:26.700all right welcome back that is anti-matters dot world uh nor bin laden tell us about it what is this
00:31:34.620what can people expect to find there listen it's a project that was born between me and three friends and
00:31:42.700we were just uh talking about all of this um digitization that is going on in the world and
00:31:49.420how these walls are slowly but very surely closing in on us um and um we basically created some clothing
00:31:59.260and some designs that we wanted to wear ourselves and uh and then we thought you know it would be great if
00:32:05.100we could create a movement um whereby people who would wear these very thought-provoking designs could
00:32:11.820spark conversations in real life and um and also it would be a way to educate people by having a platform
00:32:20.860where we would collect resources for people to learn about the dangers of digitization and how slowly but
00:32:28.540very surely um humanity um humanity is being directed in uh towards a place whereby our humanity is
00:32:37.900actually being eroded and um yeah it's a way for us basically to talk about these challenges and to
00:32:46.460call out um this digital status quo and to warn people about what's what awaits us and to warn people about
00:32:55.660what i like to refer to as the digital dystopia that these overlords have uh prepared and uh i mentioned
00:33:03.260it on the ward room many times before you know i'm a human being not a qr code and i strongly object to
00:33:10.780this digitization of all aspects of our society but also the digitization of us as a species and this
00:33:19.900project was a way for us to be able to participate in raising awareness and uh to basically take a stand
00:33:28.220against that you know one of the things i love about the project is that very pro-human sentiment so
00:33:36.300that it's not simply anti-digital yeah your brain i hope yeah no no we're against that wonderful um so
00:33:47.980tell us real quick before uh you sign off where do people go how do people find anti-matters you can
00:33:55.020go to anti-matters.world and you'll have all the information on their social media you can sign up to
00:34:00.940our newsletter uh we'll aim to uh send out a monthly newsletter with all the latest news about these
00:34:06.940dangers of the digitization of our society and uh we hope you'll really like what we've created
00:34:14.620we've we've certainly had fun and it was a way for us also to express our creativity we used we didn't
00:34:21.420use ai for anything even the fonts are hand-drawn uh so everything is human made uh from beginning to finish
00:34:30.300so we hope you'll enjoy it i don't care what anybody says human made is the future it's our
00:34:37.900future anyway it is our future 100 percent uh nor bin laden thank you very much for coming by
00:34:45.900thank you joe always a pleasure to be on with you
00:34:51.100all right the un is now meeting in new york uh they begin the high-level debates on the 24th
00:35:00.140of this month here to talk about their global digital compact is tim hinchliff tim hinchliff of
00:35:07.740sociable.co tim what can you tell us about this compact is it looking good is our future
00:35:14.620brighter by the day or what well the un will want to have you think that the future is good and bright
00:35:20.780with this global digital compact um but i don't believe so at all um i've gone through it and although
00:35:27.820it has some flowery flowery language uh which sounds good uh there's a lot of uh underlying
00:35:34.860uh advances towards a digital control grid so the global digital compact is actually an annex
00:35:42.460of the pact for the future it's also uh going to include a declaration on future generations
00:35:48.460and so in the overall context the pack of the future which is expected to be signed
00:35:52.300um at the summit of the future which is taking place sunday and monday um the whole purpose is to
00:35:59.020upgrade the un to un 2.0 to restructure the whole financial architecture of things
00:36:05.820and to basically give the un more power and the un doesn't just call on member states but also
00:36:11.100stakeholders so private companies ngos and the like but the digital global compact on its surface
00:36:17.180uh that says the purpose is to establish an inclusive global framework essential for multi-stakeholder
00:36:24.700action required to overcome digital data and innovation divides um so it has five objectives um
00:36:33.020which sound nice again but i've gone through them and they're not if you read through the line no so
00:36:37.740they want to close all the digital digital divides and accelerate progress across the sustainable development
00:36:43.100goals this is the end of 2030. they want to expand inclusion in and benefits from digital the digital economy
00:36:50.220for all they want to foster an an inclusive open safe and secure digital space that respects protects and promotes
00:36:58.220human rights and uh number four is they want to advance responsible equitable and interoperable data
00:37:05.260government the data government approaches and they want to enhance international governance of artificial
00:37:11.340intelligence for the benefit of humanity but if you go through them first goal close all digital divides uh
00:37:17.820what does that mean they want everyone connected to the internet that's what they that's what they say
00:37:22.140so they they say there's 2.6 billion people that are not connected to the internet we want to connect them
00:37:27.420because i mean how can you build a digital control grid a digital bulwag without having everyone connected
00:37:32.620so that's that's the first step second step is expanding the inclusion in and benefits from this digital economy
00:37:39.260um is just to how to effectively set up their digital ecosystems so this is where um this is where
00:37:46.140digital public infrastructure comes in so that's a civic technology stack consisting of digital id fast
00:37:53.020payment systems like programmable cbdcs and massive data sharing so first get everyone online second get
00:37:59.820them hooked up to this system here which is just a surveillance and coercion and control system and then
00:38:06.380the third step is um fostering an inclusive open safe and secure digital space which sounds nice again
00:38:12.860but it's really about censorship and how to control views i mean we know that uh a couple years ago i
00:38:18.140broke the story on the un partnering with google to censor anything about climate change and coven
00:38:24.060narratives um you know there's been work done seeing how google can sway elections so if you say anything
00:38:30.540that goes against uh u.n un narratives especially as it relates to sustainable development goals because
00:38:35.900that's what this is about um then they call on nations to stomp that out in fact last year they they
00:38:42.620came out with a voluntary code of conduct listing bit by bit calling on every member state to crush
00:38:48.060misinformation disinformation to work with uh authorities to work with private sector to do
00:38:53.260everything to crush any narrative that can impede their uh sustainable development goals they're going to
00:38:58.780push through with this agenda no matter what then the fourth objective uh advanced responsible equitable
00:39:04.380and interoperable data government's approaches which means they just want to collect as much data and
00:39:09.900information on you and everything else as possible using track and trace technologies and then share
00:39:14.620that information across borders again it's in the name of sustainable development goals i mean this is
00:39:19.420things like related to how much carbon are you admitting uh you know if you're saying misinformation
00:39:24.380online that impedes their agenda so it's it's a lot of uh all these things uh all these objectives uh
00:39:30.940pile on one another and then the fifth one is about uh international governance of artificial intelligence
00:39:35.980and supporting interoperability and compatibility and uh ai governance but i mean if you try
00:39:41.820doing that between the us and china or just any intelligence agency or you know open ai and see how
00:39:48.140willing they are to share best practices and share what they're doing good luck
00:39:51.660astounding yeah you know just from beginning to end in a sort of uh summarized sense what i hear is that
00:40:02.140as you say the expansion of this digital gulag or the expansion of total digitization
00:40:07.900is seen as a necessity in order to allow people to fulfill themselves right and the system that we have now
00:40:15.420that's absolutely true it's very very difficult to survive outside of this digital grid as i've
00:40:21.180oftentimes mentioned here we are um but what really alarms me is the the notion that this is accompanied
00:40:29.180by clearly stated surveillance objectives and also clearly stated objectives to tilt the scales in favor
00:40:38.140of authority rather than any other sort of uh independent or even dissenting uh point of view you know
00:40:46.220looking at this tim how do you see it fitting in with a lot of the work you're doing on u.s
00:40:50.620companies uh u.s organizations and think tanks like ran corporation uh the you know you see you've
00:40:57.660chronicled in great detail the ways in which corporations in the u.s government are in many
00:41:04.780ways merging or at least partnering to roll out all these what i would call kind of transhuman objectives
00:41:11.660how does that fit in uh with the the more global oriented u.n objectives well i mean so there's
00:41:20.060we're kind of merging corporation state that's their modus operandi that's corporatism fascism so where
00:41:25.820um the where the public's uh where the governance can't fit it go in and actually censor than the
00:41:32.060private corporations can and uh there's trade-offs there um but no it's these organizations they work
00:41:38.860with each other to i mean if we're looking at i'm sorry what we're going on with the uh with the whole uh
00:41:45.100transhumanism bit to it you know it's just to me you know you see in the u.s the the same sort of
00:41:51.900process that you're talking about in the u.n in which you have the the government and these corporations
00:41:57.580kind of partnering together and i but i i wonder you know in the context of the u.n is this just
00:42:03.340an extension of it or is there some sense of tension there between u.s objectives and other
00:42:10.060nation states that are that are uh u.n partners or u.n uh nations i i just something that i i like to tease
00:42:18.140out if possible uh where is that that separating line right between the kind of globalist and the
00:42:24.940nationalist uh objectives because i mean many of the the the member states of the u.n uh are you know
00:42:32.700notoriously uh defiant towards uh the u.n and and certainly at odds with each other so i just wonder
00:42:39.740you know as far as national objectives go versus this overarching global uh paradigm uh like where do you
00:42:46.860see tension and hopefully where do you see possibility that we can break out maybe even
00:42:51.740who knows leave and abolish the u.n as many dream of doing maybe a little ambitious well i think what
00:42:59.180the u.n is doing is kind of even though it wants to give itself more power um it the key word is
00:43:04.940interoperable so it recognizes that each country each nation is going to do things their own way so i
00:43:11.260think that's um that's kind of desirable for each nation because they can build their own digital
00:43:17.740control grids in their own ways that and how they see fit what fits in with their own cultural norms
00:43:22.860and what kind of freedoms that they have or you know whatever is best for them so you can it's a
00:43:27.740blueprint that allows you to set something up in china let's you set something similar up in russia
00:43:33.660the united states and i mean governments are going to partner with the corporations especially
00:43:37.900the united states on you know commercially available data data sharing um and so it's just going to feed
00:43:43.180one another what this does if you get everybody connected to the internet you know with the global
00:43:46.780digital compact um you know then you get more ways to surveil people and then you get this
00:43:52.140free exchange of information between governments uh and corporations and governments and governments
00:43:58.220uh um so i mean it's it's like you've all harari said about who controls the data you know you
00:44:03.340don't have to um send in a whole physical army whoever controls the data controls the world so
00:44:08.220um what the u.n is doing is giving that kind of platform is like okay this is how we're going to
00:44:13.340set everything up globally with the whole infrastructure now do your thing wow yeah the power
00:44:21.420to my mind like much of the power of the engines of of these ambitions really are it lies within the
00:44:29.020corporations who are developing them obviously there's government uh assistance and and many
00:44:34.540times government seed money and uh missions it to start these companies but once they get going
00:44:41.740they seem to have a kind of momentum of their own and occasionally go against uh u.s government policy in
00:44:49.180the u.s or uh you you see it to some extent uh in europe you definitely don't see it in china
00:44:55.420uh but so go going forward looking looking ahead at the impacts that this will have do you think that
00:45:01.820these u.n policies especially on ai regulation uh will is in some sense a means to capture that energy
00:45:11.180to capture that power of data collection data analysis surveillance social control um and and if so
00:45:19.180do you see it in any way being a kind of positive restraint on these corporations or does it all
00:45:26.700look pretty black to your eyes it all looks pretty bleak to my eyes because it just gives everyone more
00:45:32.940power to collect uh information you know through internet of things sensors um you know just or
00:45:39.100drones whatever kind of spying device uh or surveillance device and then the ai is just you know it's
00:45:45.420more in uh you know the processing and how it can just go through so much information and make sense
00:45:50.220of it all that is extremely valuable uh to all involved so i i don't um you know you were talking
00:45:57.420about earlier about how how um things that companies that kind of respond out of government like nor
00:46:02.940binman was saying about how you know darpa had having life log and then facebook coming off and
00:46:07.500then doing its own thing you know cia nsa backed google um and then the cia i think you tell with
00:46:13.500palantir with peter teal so like they and then oracle you know they uh they they spawn these
00:46:18.300things and then all of a sudden they're kind of going off on their own the companies but it almost
00:46:22.460is like no they can kind of reel them in a bit and use them again because they kind of funded that
00:46:27.100stuff so they kind of own them and not own them but a little influence here and there so um that's
00:46:31.660where i see that uh happening yeah absolutely you know it's it's impossible obviously these are uh
00:46:38.700state secrets so it's impossible to know exactly how much control is asserted uh in in regard to
00:46:45.580these companies but certainly some uh you know the the cia churns the intel agencies churn the the
00:46:52.540objectives churn it's uh it's a confusing landscape and one which we are not privy to many of the scenes
00:46:59.180behind the trees so all we can do i guess is hold on i will say one thing though you know like and
00:47:05.740far from all the doom and gloom you know something that did come out of darpa uh arpanet which was the
00:47:11.340internet years ago i mean that was supposed to be for government use and military use and you know
00:47:16.380gps and things like that but those have been you know internet had opened up communications and gave
00:47:21.740us a lot of good things a lot of bad things but uh we're doing what we're doing now because of that
00:47:27.020you know gps uh they came out with voice assistants like alexa as well i don't touch those but i guess
00:47:32.460they help some people i wish you hadn't ended on that i was actually feeling pretty good about
00:47:37.660things for a second there then you had to bring alexa in that evil demonic winch uh the tim hinch
00:47:43.020lift where can people find your work you just published a piece on the global compact correct
00:47:47.580where you're about to i'm about to yeah that's it's 75 done so you can find me at uh sociable.co
00:47:55.100is the website and then also on x formerly known as twitter uh at the sociable or at tim hinch
00:48:01.580left which is my name and yeah i'm looking to get this new article published um either this
00:48:05.340afternoon or early tomorrow fantastic thank you very much tim thanks for stopping by we will see
00:48:11.340you again sociable.co all right war room posse that is it if i can leave you with one uh bright note
00:48:21.740you can always turn these devices off you can always do your best to detach yourself from the system
00:48:30.460and go out i don't know into the sunshine maybe go see a family member maybe bring your kids in and
00:48:37.260explain to them that this civilizational transformation may have a few pitfalls and dangers
00:48:43.580but it's going to be okay because mom and dad are here at any rate god speed god bless and of course
00:48:51.900free steve bannon thank you very much we will see you tomorrow
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