Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 617： The Integration Of AI Creates Computers Monitoring Man

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.920 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:18.900 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just

00:00:24.800 like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:29.540 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:33.840 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:40.880 your host Stephen K Bannon in public and policy conversations talk of human level AI is often

00:00:48.180 treated as either science fiction or marketing hype but many top AI companies including open AI

00:00:54.380 Google anthropic are treating building AGI as an entirely serious goal and a goal that many people

00:01:00.780 inside those companies think they might reach in 10 or 20 years and some believe could be as close as one

00:01:06.800 to three years away more to the point many of these same people believe that if they succeed in building

00:01:13.040 computers that are as smart as humans or perhaps far smarter than humans that technology will be at a

00:01:19.340 minimum extraordinarily disruptive and at a maximum could lead to literal human extinction the companies

00:01:26.420 in question often say that it's too early for any regulation because the science of how AI works and how

00:01:32.400 to make it safe is too nascent I'd like to restate that in different words they're saying we don't have good

00:01:39.620 science of how these systems work or how to tell when they'll be smarter than us we don't have good

00:01:44.840 science for how to make sure they won't cause massive harm but don't worry the main factors

00:01:50.180 driving our decisions are profit incentives and unrelenting market pressure to move faster than

00:01:54.980 our competitors so we promise we're being extra extra safe just in general is your impression now is it

00:02:00.440 was open AI doing enough in terms of its safety procedures and protocols to adequately vet its own

00:02:08.120 products and to protect the public I think it depends entirely on how rapidly their research progresses

00:02:13.640 if their most aggressive predictions of how more how quickly their systems will get more advanced

00:02:18.020 are correct then I have serious concerns if they their predictions their most aggressive predictions may

00:02:22.920 well be wrong in which case I'm somewhat less concerned and I think that it's very very important that we be

00:02:28.340 prepared for a variety of threats those threats could include deepfakes of election officials of

00:02:33.620 candidates like yourselves and also deepfakes that present election apparatus in them that indicate that

00:02:41.840 there was was tampering with physical objects associated with the election in two bills that I

00:02:47.080 mentioned earlier that I worked on in California that are currently awaiting signature fingers crossed by

00:02:51.840 Governor Newsom Assembly Bill 2655 by Mark Berman Assembly Bill 2839 by Gail Pellerin those would actually

00:02:58.820 have serious consequences so that if someone posted those types of election deepfakes they could be

00:03:05.060 removed that platforms would be required to remove them yeah well our bill allows for them it's many of them are

00:03:11.240 actually supporting this bill because it makes it clear the platforms are that they would have to take

00:03:17.480 it down but it also puts liability on the people that put those up yeah potential liability the police will be on

00:03:23.900 their best behavior because we record we're constantly recording watching and recording everything that's going

00:03:30.240 on citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going

00:03:37.040 on it's unimpeachable the cars the cars have camera you know cameras on them all right you we have I think we have a squad car here someplace

00:03:44.700 uh but those kind of applications using AI if we can use AI and we're using AI to monitor the video so it's not people that are looking at those cameras it's AI that's looking at the camera no no no you can't do this it would be like a shooting that's going to be immediately that's going to be an event that's immediately

00:04:03.280 uh an alarm is going to be an alarm is going to go off it's going to be and uh we're going to we're going to have supervision in other words every police officer is going to be supervised

00:04:13.060 at all times

00:04:16.360 uh and and if there's a problem AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate person whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whom

00:04:26.560 whomever we need to um take control of the situation we have you know same thing we have drones we just

00:04:34.500 if there's something going on in a shopping center and I'll stop a drone goes out there I get there way faster than a police car

00:04:40.440 there's no reason for by the way high speed chases you shouldn't have high speed chases between cars

00:04:46.220 you just have a drone follow the car I mean it's very very simple and then new generation generation of autonomous

00:04:52.720 drones good evening it is September 19th in the year of our lord 2024 I am Joe Allen sitting in for

00:04:59.960 Stephen K Bannon who still sits in prison unjustly what you heard there at the beginning is the

00:05:06.820 recent senate subcommittee on the on privacy technology and the law Helen Toner the first speaker

00:05:17.120 uh was on the board of open AI before she was ousted after after raising the alarm that open AI was being

00:05:25.380 reckless with the technologies that they are developing the real issue that we hear there is not necessarily

00:05:34.080 the existential threat of AI coming alive and killing everybody it's not necessarily the threat of deep

00:05:43.020 fakes although this is going to be a major problem going forward I would say that the real problem of

00:05:49.780 artificial intelligence which has already invaded our lives like soulless insects is that we now have

00:05:57.600 non-human entities that can speak to us that can listen to us that can produce very dramatic illusions

00:06:07.780 such as video content or visual content and we are being primed for a symbiosis with these entities we are

00:06:17.320 already seeing in schools children being acculturated to speaking to non-human entities and trusting them

00:06:26.220 to give them accurate information we're already seeing the the AI rolled out across corporations

00:06:33.220 government agencies and even in religious institutions to help people through their prayer lives what we're

00:06:42.840 facing is not necessarily something that Congress or any state government is going to be able to

00:06:50.120 prepare us for protect us from or control what we're facing is a broad cultural revolution in which

00:07:01.000 our closest companions aren't necessarily going to be human beings for many people it's going to be

00:07:09.100 machines and as you heard there at the end of the video with Larry Ellison of Oracle Oracle being a major

00:07:18.140 contractor with both the U.S. government and the intelligence agencies of the U.S. government we hear there this

00:07:26.960 vision of artificial intelligence allowing surveillance to basically be a behavioral modification program

00:07:35.760 so that if everyone knows that they're being watched then everyone will be incentivized to alter their

00:07:44.500 behavior as such on the one hand Ellison is speaking about surveillance of the police I think that

00:07:52.700 to a large extent many of us can relate to the desire for the police to be under as much surveillance as

00:08:01.080 ourselves but it won't be just the police already after over 20 years after the Patriot Act we are already

00:08:13.280 seeing the fruits of mass surveillance not only in the stifling of political dissent but also the

00:08:21.920 overarching sentiment that privacy is becoming a kind of quaint desire that no longer can you expect

00:08:32.120 to be your own person in your own realm but you are inevitably invariably part of a larger technological

00:08:41.400 system one which you are impacting and one which will impact you one which is constantly monitoring

00:08:50.800 your every move and in the end perhaps silencing you or even seeing you put in prison for something you

00:09:02.700 simply said I want to bring in Noor bin Laden but before there's a video I think it should give you a good 0.85

00:09:10.780 idea of what the sentiment is in the Democratic Party in regard to free speech and censorship so Denver if

00:09:19.000 you could roll that he has he has lost his privileges and it should be taken down and the bottom line

00:09:23.980 is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter

00:09:27.880 the same rule has to apply which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social

00:09:35.000 media sites to understand their power they are directly speaking to millions and millions of people

00:09:41.460 without any level of oversight or regulation and that has to stop I think we need to push back on this

00:09:49.180 there there's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially

00:09:53.900 around our democracy Trump back in 2016 but I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind

00:10:02.600 of propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that

00:10:10.740 would be a better deterrence excellencies ladies and gentlemen yet laws your annual global risk report makes for a

00:10:24.380 stunning and sobering read for the global business community the top concern for the next two years is not

00:10:34.060 conflict or climate it is disinformation and misinformation followed closely by polarization within our societies these

00:10:47.740 risks are serious because they limit our ability to tackle the big global challenges we are facing

00:10:55.580 changes in our climate and our geopolitical climate shifts in our demography and in our technology

00:11:07.820 spiraling regional conflicts and intensify geopolitical competition and their impacts on supply chains

00:11:17.260 the sobering reality is that we are once again competing more intensely across countries than we have in

00:11:28.140 several decades and this makes the theme of this year's Davos meeting even more relevant rebuilding trust

00:11:40.540 this is not a time for conflicts or polarization this is a time to build trust

00:11:47.260 trust this is a time to drive global collaboration more than ever before this requires immediate and

00:11:57.500 structural responses to match the size of the global challenges I believe it can be done and I believe

00:12:07.180 that Europe can and must take the lead in shaping that global response

00:12:12.780 the starting point for that is to look deeper at the global risk report to map out a way forward

00:12:25.820 many of the solutions lie not only in countries working together but crucially on businesses and governments

00:12:34.620 business and democracies working together it has never been more important for the public and private

00:12:42.620 sector to create new connective tissue because none of these challenges respects borders

00:12:52.060 they each require collaboration to manage risks and to forge a path forward

00:13:02.140 rebuilding trust I am not feeling that nor bin Laden welcome thank you very much for joining us 0.99

00:13:09.260 are you feeling your trust levels increase after hearing that riveting speech not not at all Joe quite on the

00:13:18.860 contrary and I think this is a very important clip which is why I wanted to share it once more with the posse

00:13:25.660 because we covered it back in January in Davos where Ursula von der Leyen was speaking and giving this address to

00:13:35.500 open the world economic forum um annual meeting uh in Davos and um it's um it's incredibly telling how

00:13:47.660 they really are working so hard with all of these stakeholders in order to quell any form of speech and to quell

00:13:57.020 any form of dissent and um on the on the heels of the other um clips that you played you know Hillary Clinton

00:14:04.620 um most notably was calling for even their arrest of uh certain uh members of the population who are

00:14:12.940 calling out you know these excesses and these unjust um unconstitutional measures that are being

00:14:21.740 deployed against the population without their consent um you have you know the the WEF and these globalist

00:14:29.260 institutions that are continuing with this agenda on the 9th of September just a couple of weeks ago

00:14:34.940 they published their annual WEF reports for 2023 and 2024 and once more misinformation and disinformation

00:14:44.060 is at the center of the report and calls for collaboration just as Ursula von der Leyen

00:14:51.740 said back in January are reiterated between all of these different stakeholders between the corporations

00:14:58.060 between the politicians these minions these you know oligarchs uh these international organizations and

00:15:06.540 institutions our governments all working hand in hand to um limit the population from speaking out of

00:15:16.140 this tightening grip and the erosion of our liberties you know already we've seen we've covered uh a lot

00:15:25.740 the uk protests and in the aftermath many people being hauled off to jail for something they posted online

00:15:32.460 you have examples here in america douglas mackie uh for just a kind of a joke tweet uh spent time in in prison

00:15:41.900 for it and you can tell um without any shadow of a doubt that the machine is right on the edge of rolling over

00:15:52.060 american citizens not because of things they did but because of things they said i'm myself i'm actually quite

00:15:59.980 concerned about the spread of misinformation and disinformation but the real problem i see

00:16:06.140 is that these organizations are positioning themselves to determine what is and is not

00:16:11.260 misinformation and disinformation and they are also the purveyors of a lot of mis and disinformation

00:16:19.020 you just recently wrote an article about a colleague of yours who in switzerland was uh convicted and fined

00:16:27.420 indian for i guess you would call it something inflammatory i thought it was quite funny um

00:16:32.460 can you what is the title of the article and can you tell us a little bit about that

00:16:37.420 sure joe but first bouncing off of what you just said they are absolutely the main purveyors of

00:16:43.500 misinformation and disinformation and uh because we are noticing that and calling it out and trying to

00:16:50.220 share truthful and truthful information they are basically inverting uh the reality and um you know

00:16:57.820 that that speech from ursula von der leyen had many many important points that she made and she did

00:17:03.820 mention that this is something that is uh beyond borders you know that it impacts all countries and you

00:17:11.260 rightly pointed out you know different cases in different countries you know the us obviously but also the uk we

00:17:17.260 saw over the summer i also wrote an article about that in sock unmasked talking about how people were

00:17:23.900 being sent to jail for retweets um you know coming out of the of members of the government's own mouths

00:17:30.540 you know on tape um uh threatening the population uh if they were to even just retweet a post that would

00:17:37.980 supposedly lead to these um protests excuse me in the street and uh it's it's across the board

00:17:47.180 and in switzerland as well uh i wrote an article entitled the end of free speech in switzerland

00:17:52.860 because there are quite a few cases of ordinary citizens who are being fined hefty sums and also

00:18:00.620 risk going to jail for mere tweets and this indeed did happen to a friend of mine who goes by the

00:18:08.060 the the non-name of barbui and he told he he tweeted a single world a single word uh below a um a video

00:18:18.220 that was uh denouncing you know the propaganda the lgbtqqa plus whatever um indoctrination in classrooms

00:18:27.820 here in switzerland and uh my friend just called out this indoctrination and he's facing you know close to

00:18:34.780 seven thousand um uh dollars uh equivalent uh of a fine and uh two years probation you know it's

00:18:43.500 it's just absolutely insane what is going on across the west and uh we are truly living under the false

00:18:50.700 pretense that we have freedoms here uh freedoms that are increasingly and exponentially eroding by the day

00:18:58.220 and it is absolutely critical that we talk about these things before we are completely locked up

00:19:05.180 in these digital gulags that they have been preparing for us and the the the step the key

00:19:11.180 step for them why they are so intent on focusing on misinformation and disinformation being the number

00:19:18.540 one threat it's because without our voice without the ability to call out there are many many different

00:19:25.500 machinations in the first place then we don't stand a chance and uh coming back to the opening

00:19:33.100 video that you shared you know this this digital dystopia that they have that they have built and in

00:19:39.660 which they want to imprison us the walls are closing in very rapidly uh joe and it is absolutely

00:19:46.460 imperative that we that we stand up against it and very firmly so you know there's a tension that i see

00:19:54.620 here and we'll be bringing in tim hinchliffe on the other side i'd actually like to hold you over uh

00:20:00.540 and just to come back at the beginning of the next block and talk about the new project that you are

00:20:07.180 working on and that you've just launched but uh just on that note with larry ellison he of course

00:20:13.660 is a frequent flyer at the world economic forum but what you see with ellison is it's i think a point

00:20:20.300 that i try to make a lot these are this is not some monolithic just completely homogenous blob

00:20:27.900 coming out of davos larry ellison you could say is very much on the much more on the conservative

00:20:34.060 end of that spectrum and even if he's a part of that system he is much less inclined towards any sort

00:20:40.860 of socialist measures that would see money redistributed redistributed to uh you know less uh wealthy

00:20:48.300 people he is much more inclined towards you know minimizing regulation as opposed to the the highly

00:20:56.380 regulated programs you hear a lot there and you see that right now with trump and the people in his camp

00:21:03.260 from the tech sector so that you've got elon musk peter teal mark andreason ben horowitz these people

00:21:11.900 want to see a very different kind of dystopia still dystopian in my eyes but uh if you just uh in the the

00:21:19.980 two and a half minutes we have left what are your thoughts on that tension between these these vying

00:21:26.140 powers within that uh central kind of global system well actually i'm i'm not sure i agree with you uh joe on

00:21:35.900 this point uh because although there are some elements or there are certain factions and there

00:21:41.980 is a competition there when you look at most of these oligarchs and i would call them you know 0.99

00:21:47.660 manufactured characters that are put on this central stage to lead um certain of these projects but you

00:21:54.700 know they essentially come from the same source which is the american uh deep state when we talk about the

00:22:01.580 big tech companies um and uh you know larry ellison was assigned to the cia's project oracle and it's

00:22:09.580 from that project uh that the company oracle was born and uh it's the case of most of these big tech

00:22:17.820 companies and on that note i would really encourage uh the posse to go watch james corbett's 45 minute

00:22:24.940 um mini documentary entitled the secrets of silicon valley what big tech doesn't want you to know

00:22:32.940 and it goes more into the details of how silicon valley was born and how you know companies like

00:22:38.220 facebook um you know it's that's quite well known it was a darpa project uh called life log and the day

00:22:45.980 that they killed the project the company the facebook was uh was born and there are many such um

00:22:53.500 stories when it comes to to big tech and i think there is very much a concerted effort um

00:23:00.940 by the powers that be the this elite that is uh very shadowy and working behind the scenes

00:23:07.660 to uh to advance this this agenda that you know on its face may present um certain differences but at

00:23:17.580 the end of the day uh the goal uh or the road very much leads to the same bleak place

00:23:25.180 i would certainly agree with it leading to at least similar bleak places but i guess we'll have to

00:23:30.060 agree to disagree on the uniformity of the uh elite powers i think it's going to be much more complex

00:23:36.940 behind that um that curtain than any uh series of trails leading back to intelligence would would allow

00:23:44.540 for but uh on that note we will come back uh after the uh commercial break and noor has a very very

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00:30:18.940 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:30:25.740 you like the idea that you're an individual and think your own thoughts if you have one thought in

00:30:33.580 your life that is uniquely your own you are extremely lucky you will strongly object to this statement

00:30:40.540 reality would disagree with you cultural programming from your parents and greater environment have you

00:30:46.540 locked into its way of seeing things by the time you are three years old you were given a menu of options

00:30:53.420 choose yours and act those choices there is no option for the original you in this scenario all this

00:31:01.260 programming is controlled by middlemen middlemen who profit from your directed thought this is no news

00:31:09.020 it has gone on for centuries but now it is different now the digital world completely

00:31:14.540 dictates how the ball rolls down your internal slots and you shall obey

00:31:26.700 all right welcome back that is anti-matters dot world uh nor bin laden tell us about it what is this

00:31:34.620 what can people expect to find there listen it's a project that was born between me and three friends and

00:31:42.700 we were just uh talking about all of this um digitization that is going on in the world and

00:31:49.420 how these walls are slowly but very surely closing in on us um and um we basically created some clothing

00:31:59.260 and some designs that we wanted to wear ourselves and uh and then we thought you know it would be great if

00:32:05.100 we could create a movement um whereby people who would wear these very thought-provoking designs could

00:32:11.820 spark conversations in real life and um and also it would be a way to educate people by having a platform

00:32:20.860 where we would collect resources for people to learn about the dangers of digitization and how slowly but

00:32:28.540 very surely um humanity um humanity is being directed in uh towards a place whereby our humanity is

00:32:37.900 actually being eroded and um yeah it's a way for us basically to talk about these challenges and to

00:32:46.460 call out um this digital status quo and to warn people about what's what awaits us and to warn people about

00:32:55.660 what i like to refer to as the digital dystopia that these overlords have uh prepared and uh i mentioned

00:33:03.260 it on the ward room many times before you know i'm a human being not a qr code and i strongly object to

00:33:10.780 this digitization of all aspects of our society but also the digitization of us as a species and this

00:33:19.900 project was a way for us to be able to participate in raising awareness and uh to basically take a stand

00:33:28.220 against that you know one of the things i love about the project is that very pro-human sentiment so

00:33:36.300 that it's not simply anti-digital yeah your brain i hope yeah no no we're against that wonderful um so

00:33:47.980 tell us real quick before uh you sign off where do people go how do people find anti-matters you can

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00:34:00.940 our newsletter uh we'll aim to uh send out a monthly newsletter with all the latest news about these

00:34:06.940 dangers of the digitization of our society and uh we hope you'll really like what we've created

00:34:14.620 we've we've certainly had fun and it was a way for us also to express our creativity we used we didn't

00:34:21.420 use ai for anything even the fonts are hand-drawn uh so everything is human made uh from beginning to finish

00:34:30.300 so we hope you'll enjoy it i don't care what anybody says human made is the future it's our

00:34:37.900 future anyway it is our future 100 percent uh nor bin laden thank you very much for coming by

00:34:45.900 thank you joe always a pleasure to be on with you

00:34:51.100 all right the un is now meeting in new york uh they begin the high-level debates on the 24th

00:35:00.140 of this month here to talk about their global digital compact is tim hinchliff tim hinchliff of

00:35:07.740 sociable.co tim what can you tell us about this compact is it looking good is our future

00:35:14.620 brighter by the day or what well the un will want to have you think that the future is good and bright

00:35:20.780 with this global digital compact um but i don't believe so at all um i've gone through it and although

00:35:27.820 it has some flowery flowery language uh which sounds good uh there's a lot of uh underlying

00:35:34.860 uh advances towards a digital control grid so the global digital compact is actually an annex

00:35:42.460 of the pact for the future it's also uh going to include a declaration on future generations

00:35:48.460 and so in the overall context the pack of the future which is expected to be signed

00:35:52.300 um at the summit of the future which is taking place sunday and monday um the whole purpose is to

00:35:59.020 upgrade the un to un 2.0 to restructure the whole financial architecture of things

00:36:05.820 and to basically give the un more power and the un doesn't just call on member states but also

00:36:11.100 stakeholders so private companies ngos and the like but the digital global compact on its surface

00:36:17.180 uh that says the purpose is to establish an inclusive global framework essential for multi-stakeholder

00:36:24.700 action required to overcome digital data and innovation divides um so it has five objectives um

00:36:33.020 which sound nice again but i've gone through them and they're not if you read through the line no so

00:36:37.740 they want to close all the digital digital divides and accelerate progress across the sustainable development

00:36:43.100 goals this is the end of 2030. they want to expand inclusion in and benefits from digital the digital economy

00:36:50.220 for all they want to foster an an inclusive open safe and secure digital space that respects protects and promotes

00:36:58.220 human rights and uh number four is they want to advance responsible equitable and interoperable data

00:37:05.260 government the data government approaches and they want to enhance international governance of artificial

00:37:11.340 intelligence for the benefit of humanity but if you go through them first goal close all digital divides uh

00:37:17.820 what does that mean they want everyone connected to the internet that's what they that's what they say

00:37:22.140 so they they say there's 2.6 billion people that are not connected to the internet we want to connect them

00:37:27.420 because i mean how can you build a digital control grid a digital bulwag without having everyone connected

00:37:32.620 so that's that's the first step second step is expanding the inclusion in and benefits from this digital economy

00:37:39.260 um is just to how to effectively set up their digital ecosystems so this is where um this is where

00:37:46.140 digital public infrastructure comes in so that's a civic technology stack consisting of digital id fast

00:37:53.020 payment systems like programmable cbdcs and massive data sharing so first get everyone online second get

00:37:59.820 them hooked up to this system here which is just a surveillance and coercion and control system and then

00:38:06.380 the third step is um fostering an inclusive open safe and secure digital space which sounds nice again

00:38:12.860 but it's really about censorship and how to control views i mean we know that uh a couple years ago i

00:38:18.140 broke the story on the un partnering with google to censor anything about climate change and coven

00:38:24.060 narratives um you know there's been work done seeing how google can sway elections so if you say anything

00:38:30.540 that goes against uh u.n un narratives especially as it relates to sustainable development goals because

00:38:35.900 that's what this is about um then they call on nations to stomp that out in fact last year they they

00:38:42.620 came out with a voluntary code of conduct listing bit by bit calling on every member state to crush

00:38:48.060 misinformation disinformation to work with uh authorities to work with private sector to do

00:38:53.260 everything to crush any narrative that can impede their uh sustainable development goals they're going to

00:38:58.780 push through with this agenda no matter what then the fourth objective uh advanced responsible equitable

00:39:04.380 and interoperable data government's approaches which means they just want to collect as much data and

00:39:09.900 information on you and everything else as possible using track and trace technologies and then share

00:39:14.620 that information across borders again it's in the name of sustainable development goals i mean this is

00:39:19.420 things like related to how much carbon are you admitting uh you know if you're saying misinformation

00:39:24.380 online that impedes their agenda so it's it's a lot of uh all these things uh all these objectives uh

00:39:30.940 pile on one another and then the fifth one is about uh international governance of artificial intelligence

00:39:35.980 and supporting interoperability and compatibility and uh ai governance but i mean if you try

00:39:41.820 doing that between the us and china or just any intelligence agency or you know open ai and see how

00:39:48.140 willing they are to share best practices and share what they're doing good luck

00:39:51.660 astounding yeah you know just from beginning to end in a sort of uh summarized sense what i hear is that

00:40:02.140 as you say the expansion of this digital gulag or the expansion of total digitization

00:40:07.900 is seen as a necessity in order to allow people to fulfill themselves right and the system that we have now

00:40:15.420 that's absolutely true it's very very difficult to survive outside of this digital grid as i've

00:40:21.180 oftentimes mentioned here we are um but what really alarms me is the the notion that this is accompanied

00:40:29.180 by clearly stated surveillance objectives and also clearly stated objectives to tilt the scales in favor

00:40:38.140 of authority rather than any other sort of uh independent or even dissenting uh point of view you know

00:40:46.220 looking at this tim how do you see it fitting in with a lot of the work you're doing on u.s

00:40:50.620 companies uh u.s organizations and think tanks like ran corporation uh the you know you see you've

00:40:57.660 chronicled in great detail the ways in which corporations in the u.s government are in many

00:41:04.780 ways merging or at least partnering to roll out all these what i would call kind of transhuman objectives

00:41:11.660 how does that fit in uh with the the more global oriented u.n objectives well i mean so there's

00:41:20.060 we're kind of merging corporation state that's their modus operandi that's corporatism fascism so where

00:41:25.820 um the where the public's uh where the governance can't fit it go in and actually censor than the

00:41:32.060 private corporations can and uh there's trade-offs there um but no it's these organizations they work

00:41:38.860 with each other to i mean if we're looking at i'm sorry what we're going on with the uh with the whole uh

00:41:45.100 transhumanism bit to it you know it's just to me you know you see in the u.s the the same sort of

00:41:51.900 process that you're talking about in the u.n in which you have the the government and these corporations

00:41:57.580 kind of partnering together and i but i i wonder you know in the context of the u.n is this just

00:42:03.340 an extension of it or is there some sense of tension there between u.s objectives and other

00:42:10.060 nation states that are that are uh u.n partners or u.n uh nations i i just something that i i like to tease

00:42:18.140 out if possible uh where is that that separating line right between the kind of globalist and the

00:42:24.940 nationalist uh objectives because i mean many of the the the member states of the u.n uh are you know

00:42:32.700 notoriously uh defiant towards uh the u.n and and certainly at odds with each other so i just wonder

00:42:39.740 you know as far as national objectives go versus this overarching global uh paradigm uh like where do you

00:42:46.860 see tension and hopefully where do you see possibility that we can break out maybe even

00:42:51.740 who knows leave and abolish the u.n as many dream of doing maybe a little ambitious well i think what

00:42:59.180 the u.n is doing is kind of even though it wants to give itself more power um it the key word is

00:43:04.940 interoperable so it recognizes that each country each nation is going to do things their own way so i

00:43:11.260 think that's um that's kind of desirable for each nation because they can build their own digital

00:43:17.740 control grids in their own ways that and how they see fit what fits in with their own cultural norms

00:43:22.860 and what kind of freedoms that they have or you know whatever is best for them so you can it's a

00:43:27.740 blueprint that allows you to set something up in china let's you set something similar up in russia

00:43:33.660 the united states and i mean governments are going to partner with the corporations especially

00:43:37.900 the united states on you know commercially available data data sharing um and so it's just going to feed

00:43:43.180 one another what this does if you get everybody connected to the internet you know with the global

00:43:46.780 digital compact um you know then you get more ways to surveil people and then you get this

00:43:52.140 free exchange of information between governments uh and corporations and governments and governments

00:43:58.220 uh um so i mean it's it's like you've all harari said about who controls the data you know you

00:44:03.340 don't have to um send in a whole physical army whoever controls the data controls the world so

00:44:08.220 um what the u.n is doing is giving that kind of platform is like okay this is how we're going to

00:44:13.340 set everything up globally with the whole infrastructure now do your thing wow yeah the power

00:44:21.420 to my mind like much of the power of the engines of of these ambitions really are it lies within the

00:44:29.020 corporations who are developing them obviously there's government uh assistance and and many

00:44:34.540 times government seed money and uh missions it to start these companies but once they get going

00:44:41.740 they seem to have a kind of momentum of their own and occasionally go against uh u.s government policy in

00:44:49.180 the u.s or uh you you see it to some extent uh in europe you definitely don't see it in china

00:44:55.420 uh but so go going forward looking looking ahead at the impacts that this will have do you think that

00:45:01.820 these u.n policies especially on ai regulation uh will is in some sense a means to capture that energy

00:45:11.180 to capture that power of data collection data analysis surveillance social control um and and if so

00:45:19.180 do you see it in any way being a kind of positive restraint on these corporations or does it all

00:45:26.700 look pretty black to your eyes it all looks pretty bleak to my eyes because it just gives everyone more

00:45:32.940 power to collect uh information you know through internet of things sensors um you know just or

00:45:39.100 drones whatever kind of spying device uh or surveillance device and then the ai is just you know it's

00:45:45.420 more in uh you know the processing and how it can just go through so much information and make sense

00:45:50.220 of it all that is extremely valuable uh to all involved so i i don't um you know you were talking

00:45:57.420 about earlier about how how um things that companies that kind of respond out of government like nor

00:46:02.940 binman was saying about how you know darpa had having life log and then facebook coming off and

00:46:07.500 then doing its own thing you know cia nsa backed google um and then the cia i think you tell with

00:46:13.500 palantir with peter teal so like they and then oracle you know they uh they they spawn these

00:46:18.300 things and then all of a sudden they're kind of going off on their own the companies but it almost

00:46:22.460 is like no they can kind of reel them in a bit and use them again because they kind of funded that

00:46:27.100 stuff so they kind of own them and not own them but a little influence here and there so um that's

00:46:31.660 where i see that uh happening yeah absolutely you know it's it's impossible obviously these are uh

00:46:38.700 state secrets so it's impossible to know exactly how much control is asserted uh in in regard to

00:46:45.580 these companies but certainly some uh you know the the cia churns the intel agencies churn the the

00:46:52.540 objectives churn it's uh it's a confusing landscape and one which we are not privy to many of the scenes

00:46:59.180 behind the trees so all we can do i guess is hold on i will say one thing though you know like and

00:47:05.740 far from all the doom and gloom you know something that did come out of darpa uh arpanet which was the

00:47:11.340 internet years ago i mean that was supposed to be for government use and military use and you know

00:47:16.380 gps and things like that but those have been you know internet had opened up communications and gave

00:47:21.740 us a lot of good things a lot of bad things but uh we're doing what we're doing now because of that

00:47:27.020 you know gps uh they came out with voice assistants like alexa as well i don't touch those but i guess

00:47:32.460 they help some people i wish you hadn't ended on that i was actually feeling pretty good about

00:47:37.660 things for a second there then you had to bring alexa in that evil demonic winch uh the tim hinch 1.00

00:47:43.020 lift where can people find your work you just published a piece on the global compact correct

00:47:47.580 where you're about to i'm about to yeah that's it's 75 done so you can find me at uh sociable.co

00:47:55.100 is the website and then also on x formerly known as twitter uh at the sociable or at tim hinch

00:48:01.580 left which is my name and yeah i'm looking to get this new article published um either this

00:48:05.340 afternoon or early tomorrow fantastic thank you very much tim thanks for stopping by we will see

00:48:11.340 you again sociable.co all right war room posse that is it if i can leave you with one uh bright note

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00:48:30.460 and go out i don't know into the sunshine maybe go see a family member maybe bring your kids in and

00:48:37.260 explain to them that this civilizational transformation may have a few pitfalls and dangers

00:48:43.580 but it's going to be okay because mom and dad are here at any rate god speed god bless and of course

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Bannon's War Room - September 20, 2024

WarRoom Battleground EP 617： The Integration Of AI Creates Computers Monitoring Man

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