WarRoom Battleground EP 648: Winning The House
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Julie Kelly and Natalie Peltz join us on the War Room for the second half of our late afternoon and early evening coverage. Julie and Natalie discuss the Powell/Trump dustup, Scott Besson's challenge to Trump, and the deep state.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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Stephen K Bannon okay it's Thursday uh 7 November year of our Lord 2024 welcome to the war room for
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the second hour of our late afternoon early evening coverage uh a lot going on Julie Kelly's
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going to join us here in a second want to make sure that you check out Scott Besson a lot going on
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today Powell announced he ain't stepping down and he just dared Trump to fire him he says you can't
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fire me I've got a 10-year term and you're just going to have to deal with that thing they cut
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rates another 25 basis points but the big thing is is is showing that not only they're going to
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continue with easy money that Powell's not leaving I think that might lead to a confrontation we'll
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have to see but to understand it go to birchgold.com birchgold.com slash Bannon ended
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the dollar empire to understand the whole concept of easy money but most importantly you can talk to
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Philip Patrick and the team about gold as a hedge against financial turbulence because I think we're
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going to go through a little financial turbulence right because we're going to pay the price for
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modern monetary theory this reckless reckless reckless theory that came out of France about capital
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and about particularly about spending this say hey you'd run you can raise all these deficits
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can be huge and if you ever start having if you ever start having economic problems you can just raise
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taxes you know and cover it all doesn't work like that so make sure you go check it out also tax
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network go to tnusa.com slash Bannon that's tnusa.com slash Bannon tax network USA don't believe
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when the letters come for the IRS if you just put it in the drawer it's not going to go away the
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interest is building in the penalties and the fees are building you have to address it the best way to
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do it just go to the you get a free you'll fill out some things basically to they kind of curate to
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make sure that you're even somebody that should be using their service and then you talk to a
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consultant and they walk you through it what they try to do is cap the payments maybe cut the face amount
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you know cap your interest payments and work at a payment deal you need professionals to do it all
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the time it's impossible for you to are I should say very hard but don't take it from me call them
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go to tnusa.com slash Bannon talk to the expert now do not let that sit in the drawer trust me
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the IRS is going to get some money okay so you either get all your money or they get less and the way you
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do that is using tax network USA go check it out on the weaponization of the uh of the
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legal uh of the lawfare weaponization and kind of the deep state being triggered I guess last night
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somebody said used us took our took our name in vain and said that the problem with war room and the
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problem with Bannon is they believe in this phony concept of the deep state Natalie is that not just
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somebody the guy who runs media matters Madeline Peltz's boss he was and then he actually gave you
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a name check saying that you were the architect of a lot of this but that we're actually victims I think
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we should apologize to the audience of spreading misinformation informing them that there is a deep
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state spreading misinformation one or two years in a row with the Stanford Observatory thank you
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Brookings New York Times yes but there's an interesting I want to read you the quote up
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does that get you a discount of the Washington spas saying no they charge me extra you know I'm
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going to dog you now so I was just doing research to see if these people are feeling sad so bad I was in
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the gym working out listening to MSNBC to make me mad so I have a better workout and I overheard them
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saying that all the spas that was information MSNBC I'm going to tee you up though for a rant okay
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good man I'm ready from the bulwark Tim Miller Tim Miller pukas or pukas or pearls on Twitter so I don't
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know okay okay President Biden bet everything on the innate goodness of the American people we should
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learn from his mistake saying that he was wrong wow and that's why Kamala Tim Miller if the staff
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can check didn't he was heckling me the other day he bookmarked something I said I got to find out
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somebody can get that to Natalie she can read it on air let's go to Julie Kelly Julie um
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the hunted become the hunters ma'am I think you put a shot across the bow of one Jack Smith and like
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I hey Jack don't wander too far you'll be needed in Washington tell me tell me what is what is
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happening so because Jack Smith is ready to drop a superseding indictment on Trump and I don't know
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eight of his co-conspirators if he lost yesterday all of a sudden he feels like he's got to get out of
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town why is that ma'am correct so I have a piece of uh my sub stack declassified with Julie Kelly
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that walks through potential criminal investigation into Jack Smith the special counsel's office
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which by the way Steve and Natalie has spent roughly 50 million dollars in two years on pursuing both
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of these cases now keep in mind this does not include what the Department of Justice spent before
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Jack Smith was appointed in November of 2022 we could be talking about criminal investigation
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that cost us a hundred million dollars at the end of the day to investigate Donald Trump his associates
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conduct all of these grand jury proceedings in Washington DC and then move forward with the
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prosecution in southern Florida for classified documents in Washington related to the events of
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January 6th now Jack Smith to your point Steve we've talked about this repeatedly Jack Smith was
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preparing not just to advance the existing January 6th case in Washington but to add to it to finally
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bring criminal charges against the five unnamed unindicted co-conspirators there and add
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seditious conspiracy counts up to that indictment now Fox News and others reporting that Jack Smith is
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trying to figure out a way working with the DOJ to drop both of those cases and of course that's
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because long-standing DOJ rules this is the excuse that you cannot prosecute a sitting president which
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you can't of course we've never had criminal indictment of a former president either but you know DOJ
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chartered new territory under the Biden Harris Merritt Garland Department of Justice so but look that
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can't be the end of it right Steve and Natalie as I've covered both trials as you know and you've covered
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my work I attended numerous court hearings in Florida I attended every court hearing in Washington
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plus reviewed all the documents there is evidence of prosecutorial misconduct especially in the classified
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documents case which of course included the armed nine-hour raid of Mar-a-Lago where agents evidence
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of agents violating the terms of the search warrant by ransacking Melania Trump's bedroom and Darren
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Trump's bedroom and other areas that they were not authorized to search and then of course evidence
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destruction evidence of evidence destruction in that case tampering threatening a witness misleading
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the court including judge cannon so there is that whole case is rife with evidence of criminality
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by the special counsel's office it demands investigation and accountability and a full audit
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into where 50 million dollars went including millions of dollars of unspecified contract services
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that Smith includes in his bare bones report that he's required to file
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I want to go back to if if President Trump had lost you said that he was going to put through a
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superseding indictment with five additional co-conspirators and additional charges on President Trump is that what you're saying?
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I believe that he would have you know he was burned obviously by the Supreme Court's ruling in Trump versus
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U.S. the landmark immunity ruling that was handed down on July 1 which gutted big parts of Jack Smith's existing
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indictment right because they said especially the DOJ Donald Trump's interactions with his DOJ
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uh Jeffrey Clark's activity as a Department of Justice official all fell within the scope of official
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duties that's core constitutional authority of the president so Jack Smith had to go back to his
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first indictment he had to gut out the DOJ related stuff he left in communications with Mike Pence etc
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but it's such a bare bone indictment at this point that it wasn't going to go anywhere between immunity and
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the 1512 c2 ruling which is half of the counts in that indictment um the Supreme Court was going to
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just toss that whole cloth so in my view he was going to come up with additional charges including
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seditious conspiracy which DOJ successfully convicted multiple people of the Proud Boys
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and Oath Keepers cases of that very rare statute so he was going to keep coming up with additional
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charges there's no reason why he wouldn't because Stephen Natalie as we've seen not only Jack Smith
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but this DOJ and federal courts federal judges completely defying the Supreme Court's ruling in both Fisher
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and the immunity case Judge Chudkin basically was laughing at that ruling in her courthouse I was there
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September 5th she's low-key mocking the decision and saying well I didn't read it that way and saying well no matter what I say
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they as this case proceeds I'm going to get reversed so she didn't care um so they were going to
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completely open up the floodgates if uh Kamala Harris had won um and double down in both this case and the
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classified documents case now of course remember Judge Cannon dismissed that case in July seeing that
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special counsel Jack Smith had been unconstitutionally appointed the DOJ is appealing that decision
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before the 11th circuit well now what happens he's going to drop both cases apparently even if he doesn't
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he knows that a Trump DOJ would go back drop the Washington case and then of course drop its appeal
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of Judge Cannon's order dismissing classified documents case so that's for Jack Smith in the special counsel
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office right now he thinks he's going to just drop these cases and what go back to the Hague and
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pretend that he's this really successful war crimes prosecutor guy's a stone-cold loser which I also
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detail in my piece his record before the Supreme Court not just this year but previously overturned
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unanimously his conviction of Robert McDonald and his wife uh hung jury not a single conviction of his
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prosecution vengeful prosecution of former Senator John Edwards who dared to challenge
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Barack Obama in the Democratic primary in 2008 also no convictions in his pursuit the first uh first
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trial against uh Senator Robert Menendez the guy's a complete failure yet they put him in charge of
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15 million dollars of our tax money he had his own protective detail uh as he walked around Washington and
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also at his home so this guy is is rogue and dirty as you get so were his prosecutors Jay Brett
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David Harbach Molly Gaston Tom Windham all of you all of your records as you like to say Steve all your
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communications all the stunts that you pulled in court Jay Brett in court and behind the scenes
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trying to threaten one of Donald Trump's top closest aides to flip and become a government cooperator
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Walt Nada this all has to be vetted and of course top of the list is the unlawful
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egregious armed raid of uh Mar-a-Lago which then Jack Smith later admitted that they mishandled the
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evidence that had been collected out of Mar-a-Lago they doctored the records remember bringing the cover
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sheets to the raid and then attaching them to files taking pictures of it and leaking it uh putting
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it in a court document so the press would pick up on it the FBI agents brought those cover sheets to
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pull a stunt those agents need to be interviewed as to why they did that were the underlying documents
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actually they match the classified cover sheet that you put on it how did you know that it was
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top secret or any of the other labels that were used why did you rummage through Melania's bedroom
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suite and Barron's bedroom and their gym and their kitchen and also why did you endanger the lives of
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the people at Mar-a-Lago by having 30 armed agents there for nine hours looking for government papers
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and including the doj fbi use of lethal force policy in the fbi race they had a they had a triage
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plan they were take them to the uh if they if they got hurt or wounded they were taken to a hospital
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they had the whole thing later and then it says just normal operating procedure hey going to a
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president's uh winter retreat is not normal operating but everything that says like let me ask you
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julie kelly should the president's attorney general should what they do is should they appoint a special
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prosecutor to go after and let's give it a broad term weaponization of government so then you could
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you could look into a lot of these things you have subpoena power they go to grand juries they get a
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budget should president trump toss it to his attorney general or deputy his dag and and and they appoint a
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special prosecutor that focuses on jack smith this would really be the hunted going becoming the
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hunters would it not ma'am it would and quite honestly you know i'm not an attorney so i'm not
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sure what the best approach would be um the problem too with appointing a special counsel is now we have
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precedent you know that special counsel would have to be appropriately appointed jack smith was not he's
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never been confirmed by the senate past special counsels have been approved by the senate because
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they were u.s attorneys whether it's robert herr or david weiss or um uh john durham they were all
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confirmed by the senate jack smith never was so i i guess that could be a consideration um but
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would that slow the process is the question i guess and i don't see a reason why there would be a
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conflict that would necessitate a special counsel then to your point just the doj or the dc whoever
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the new dc house attorney is after matthew grace thankfully bounced could they conduct that investigation
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truly kelly where did they go if we can put the article up if grace chung and the team can push it
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out uh where do they go uh to get all your reporting ma'am it's quite brilliant and there's going to be a
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lot lot listen all this has got to be done uh with transparency it's all got to be adjudicated
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fairly but there's an awful lot here that has to be looked into particularly the weaponization of the
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apparatus against president trump and his colleagues ma'am where do they go there's so much and also
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steve you know we're working on the j6 part in that project as well so there's going to be a lot to
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that as well uh declassified with julie kelly at substack real clear investigations and of course twitter
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julie underscore kelly too steve it is so good to have you back to hear your voice to be on with
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you natalie you are a star you did such a stellar job i know steve super proud of you and um i just
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want to commend you again for uh stepping in and filling in that role because it's not easy but you
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did it well and you did it with apparent ease so uh and thanks so much you guys for having me on tonight
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thank you julia look forward to having you back um thoughts on what you just heard here about the
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hunter the hunted become the hunters well it's quite interesting i think when you juxtapose how
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much so we call it transparency and just frankly an invasion they wanted into president trump's life
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buildings finances everything what about the assassination attempts right they don't really
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want to investigate those right there's some one for the senate we wouldn't have anything yeah
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maybe we need some sort of special counsel special investigative powers to go into those two
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instances love that i have to qualify theirs too um but to that point the second one ryan routh the
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weird like ukrainian paramilitary force dude it's just breaking now that his lawyers have filed a
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protective order um trying to essentially withhold the disclosure of any documents produced in discovery
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they're saying because there could there's no proof that it exists but there could potentially be
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i can say child porn uh child porn on his devices we're not saying it's there but his lawyers are
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no one said it's there but the lawyer said it may be there could be yeah so as a result of that
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therefore the american people should not but yeah but other than that there's no protective order so
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that must you you would assume his lawyers are saying there could be there may be child porn on his
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devices the son was arrested for a child porn fine just like the day after the assassination attempt
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um the special by the way we're working on uh degrasse and uh and others to get him up we've got to
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talk about the uh the house obviously that's quite important i do think greater legal minds than mine
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and greater minds about the constitution i think are working through these issues about special
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prosecutors and who needs to actually be confirmed and not confirmed i do believe that we have to
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have a very formal process i think jack smith we have to look into jack smith's activity i think
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merrick garland i think merrick garland for a host of things has to be thoroughly investigated should
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lawyer up that of of activities under his reign of terror over the department of justice i mean your
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thoughts well if we're talking about the weaponization of government i think we should also bring
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up anthony fauci i'd also throw him in there as someone who definitely needs to be investigated
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maybe look uh into the ethics chief wife who still holds her position the national institutes of health
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but i think you nailed something earlier this morning right the alex wagner the long mantra monologue
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about how the left was forced to become the defenders of the institutions that's a limited hangout
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they didn't just defend them they full-blown full-scale next level to the nth degree weaponized
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them against the american people and i think going forward i think we need to be very clear that we
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will not let them sort of repaint or do some revisionist history where the mandate the operations
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carried out by the jack smiths of the world so we're not even i don't even want to use the word
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unconstitutional because that's too nice a term right but that this is weaponization that a form
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this country has never seen before and it was full spectrum not dominance but coordination
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right the way that the media laid in the way that the outside sort of activist type organizations
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really piled into the point that they had coordinated smear campaigns going after lawyers who dared to even
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just identify or associate with president trump and i think it's that axis that you have to go after
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not just because it's about jack smith right but it's about the broader weaponization not just of
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government but of civil society that there's going to be a very close alignment frankly i think with
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the civil society that is right now forming right it's going to be styled in the form of the jack smiths
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of the world and much like with covet 19 where we laid down the precedent and we said you know by
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having a big tent coalition with people like malone and naomi wolf right you're not going to get away
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with doing this again right there's no in the words of the atlantic when they called for pandemic
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amnesty there's no pandemic amnesty just like there's no weaponization amnesty yes and i think
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you're going to start to see that narrative sort of come out right what they were doing was trying
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to just save democracy no no no what you were doing was trying to destroy let's be clear the
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constitutional republic amen um do we have the the patriarchy uh clip is is longer i'll do that
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at the bottom of the hour we'll come back um do we have degrasse or do we have mark mitchell
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alex degrasse is with us yeah can i go to alex degrasse is he calling in by phone i guess you're
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traveling alex degrasse i got no everything hangs in now they keep reporting they keep reporting on the
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on the senate and the senate seats which are very important and carry lakes hangs in the balance
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um casey has already said with mark elias they're not doing the talent pennsylvania against
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mccormick so there's going to be but what's urgent we do control the senate right now the house we
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control but are we going to hold it because there's a lot of voices on the democratic side saying that is
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their that is their ticket that's the instrument that they will use to bring down maga and president
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trump can you update us sir yeah absolutely thank you steve so like i said morning of i thought we
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would be you know at best maybe up three or four i think we're looking at up to a net two i'm going
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to go through the numbers right now associated press has called 209 seats um with the redistricting
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we're plus one if we're good you know the and then on top of that we have one arizona one arizona six
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california 22 california 40 california 41 california 45 iowa one nebraska two washington four all locked
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that gets us to 220 so you know sorry 219 i apologize so right now 219 comfortable with nothing
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that's sort of up in the air so let me say that again we've got 209 according to ap we netted one
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on redistricting thanks to the policy and the team we've got nine but i just listed the names that we're
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definitely going to win now let's go to the up in the air category because no one slapped we've got
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more people out there carrying down hang on hang on whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa full stop full stop
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i just want people to understand this according to alex degrasse and the associated press
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we are at 219 which is two seats more than we need to control the house of representatives so you
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and stefanik and johnson's crowd are sitting there going it's it's not a it's not a big margin but we've
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got that we've got this right now and you're going to talk to me how we're going to add to it you're
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saying we have the house right now at 219 and we're going to add to it but we don't have any fear right
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now of losing the house no no fear unless something insane happens but all of those good to go those are
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absolutely going to win and the associated press will call them soon i can go over those numbers again
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arizona one arizona six california 22 california 40 california 41 california 45 iowa one nebraska
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two washington four boom okay now let's get into what's sort of in the flux here okay we've got
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two that we're very favored in uh that's alaska so we should put that to bed but just not going to say
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that's and in colorado which we're sending everyone curing ballots 1800 ballots it's all
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hands on deck we've like everyone in the republican party is heading out there it's a tech secure state
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if you're in colorado you're in aurora which is really has become a hub for the for the maga
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movement aurora where you had the legal immigration issues in the apartments if we flip the seat it's huge
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the democrat uh sort of stronghold that we had targeted and we're in the lead but i think this
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thing could be decided steve 100 200 votes either which way i'd rather be us than them but let's just
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say we put that up that gets us to 221 boom okay we've got three true toss-ups okay we've got
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our boy joe kent i feel great about it i think we're probably favored but it's just so much outstanding
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you don't know but i feel good about it what they will have a better read on it on monday
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um so let's pray and if anything we can do to cure ballots i'm not sure what the rules are there so i
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apologize but it's all hands on deck we've got two in california california 13 and california 47
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that are really kind of true toss-ups um and then we've got lean democrat which i think are kind of
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out of our way but we'll see what's up and you've got some three other california seats
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maryland which still isn't called and lori i think you know it's sort of a toss-up as well but the
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numbers are tough and then ohio nine obviously looks tough i'm not sure if he can see it and
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oregon six so we're looking at you know i think a worst case we lose one seat from where we're at right
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now which would give us four votes two seats or i think but look let's just say we get half of those
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toss-ups are one or two that gives us either where we're at or picking up one or two best case picking
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up two ten votes five seats yeah but you could you could say you you feel that we may be at 222 to 213
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that could be the number yeah i mean it would be 14 yeah exactly yeah okay yeah that's where they go on
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social media to get you on the path that's that's pretty much what we feel great about i mean you've
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got those three toss-ups um and so from there it's all good but uh i'm at the grass 81 this is super
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important i people are locked in on this i mean this is really what the conversation is about you guys are
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first to hear this news as i'm getting ballot dumps i can go on all day about the specifics i think
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eight o'clock um california time 11 o'clock guard time keep a look at california they're going to let
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us know what's out there steve that isn't that interesting they don't even know so that's the
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game we're dealing with in california but thank you steve at the grass 81 on x alex okay let's get
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that on the twitter feed everybody focus on 11 o'clock tonight short commercial break we're
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first think back to 9 11 shortly after the government pushed through the patriot act this gave the government
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power to spy on innocent americans by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across
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the internet now jim records editor of the independent financial newsletter strategic intelligence and new
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york times best-selling author is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental
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surveillance to a terrifying new level in fact some of the guests i've had on the war room believe
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that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move if we say the wrong
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things on social media donate to the wrong causes buy firearms or even vote maga the government may
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be able to shut us out of our bank accounts i can't say for sure if this will happen but it's an
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interesting and dire warning fortunately jim records an american patriot and friend of mine has made it his
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programmable money watch jim's warning video now before it's censored like i've been in the past
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go to rickardswarroom.com that's rickardswarroom.com now to see the video this is not to say that so-called
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economic anxiety can explain away our country's embrace of racist and sexist demagoguery in fact it's
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quite the opposite economic anxieties are a key part of an ideology that bemoans the loss of white
00:30:55.900
male power even as macho white dudes continue to dominate our politics in exit polls white men
00:31:03.100
without a college degree supported donald trump over kamala harris by 40 points voters including
00:31:10.460
men and women who had served in the military went for trump over harris by 31 points to that end
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pogue identifies another factor that i think motivates the maga movement the reassertion of
00:31:22.620
a white male warrior class as pogue writes you'll often hear in conservative circles that america's
00:31:28.860
warrior class which on the right is often believed to be from ethnically scotch irish disproportionately
00:31:35.020
southern families who treat military service as family heritage that they have been the ones who bled
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to build our empire and ended up with nafta fentanyl and a coastal establishment that sees them
00:31:47.020
and their values as backward and dangerous that was a key part of the message crafted by trump accolades
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a white male warrior class i guess speaking of our white male warrior don't worry stephen k bannon is
00:32:02.300
still here i'm just bringing in this show i sent steve that whole montage that alex wagner
00:32:09.020
brought her show in with last night because i think thus far it's probably the best analysis i've seen
00:32:13.980
sort of sort of post-mortem um of the election because it actually looks at it through the lens of
00:32:19.100
the populist struggle like we said left-wing populism versus right-wing populism though they never dare
00:32:24.300
to go into the territory of immigration which is why i think we'll continue um to to smoke them but
00:32:30.700
am i do you want me to just tee off on the patriarchy stuff you you roll okay well as i did this morning i
00:32:37.420
i said oh my gosh i'm gonna get lit up for mansplaining to alex i like alex wagner quite a
00:32:43.020
bit here's why i like her show she's very precise in her language she does her research i mean she kind
00:32:48.940
of looks like the kid to get all a's in the third grade right for this is there something wrong yeah
00:32:53.180
no no the guys couldn't exactly um i got the first ever a plus at harvard westlake
00:32:59.180
oh my god one of the best prep schools in environmental science so i had to lie and say
00:33:05.100
climate change is real on your score on your on your on your test um i felt like as you know they're
00:33:12.140
going to get me for mansplaining this morning i think you're the best one to take it apart because
00:33:16.060
i pulled up somebody sent me a something i said a few years ago and i said that the races in the the
00:33:22.780
political contest in the in the future are going to be the times up movement versus populism i saw
00:33:30.380
this a couple of years ago when i was watching i think the golden globes uh with some of the
00:33:35.580
bloomberg guys and oprah said the whole thing was not just time you know was was was times up and me too
00:33:42.620
and times up was was was higher me too was kind of you know people that hit on these women in
00:33:48.780
business situations or other situations in hollywood you know the hollywood couch the times
00:33:53.900
up was different the times up it's time up it's the times up for the patriarchy just the raw hatred
00:33:59.580
you've seen in the run-up to this about trump represents the patriarchy i think you know someone
00:34:04.460
smart like you can deconstruct it but i said a couple of years ago you could see where this is going
00:34:08.540
this was going to be the times up handmaid's tale crowd versus the populist nationalists and this is
00:34:15.180
what i learned at danbury with more african americans and latin hispanics and latinos coming
00:34:21.020
over i think we can get beyond race right and you're going to have this gender fight you just
00:34:26.780
started look at some of these numbers although trump did extraordinarily well you'll move past that and
00:34:31.580
we'll really get to economics right and power which i think that's where the populist nationalist
00:34:36.460
movement is really going to go next level natalie winters yeah just to set the stage numbers wise
00:34:41.180
there's one of the lead stories in axios today talking about how young men overwhelmingly went
00:34:45.660
for president trump in pennsylvania men under 30 plus 18 points for trump biden for reference was just
00:34:52.380
he he won it by nine it's doubling the margin which when you add it up it's what 27 point swing
00:34:58.540
right and double digit leads in both michigan and north carolina with that same demographic but
00:35:03.900
i think to have this discussion of the sort of gendered politics particularly when it comes to young
00:35:08.300
men i think you have it through two separate kind of silos one is through the matrix of persuasion
00:35:14.060
and then one is the matrix of mobilization right on the persuasion side i think that's where you get
00:35:18.780
into the sort of culture war stuff it harkens back to 2016 right and talking about what is masculinity
00:35:24.780
you obviously saw efforts to sort of redefine that not just from the harris campaign um but just more
00:35:29.500
broadly culturally the left but then i think right now what you're hearing most of the discussion
00:35:34.140
about this idea that oh it was the podcast it was the podcasts and i think that that is really more
00:35:38.780
of an aftershock of what is a cultural earthquake that i think is encapsulated in part you're saying
00:35:44.620
the podcast about the bro nature of the podcast that this is kind of something birthed those podcasts
00:35:50.220
right birthed the idea that men wanted to have for lack of a better word a safe space camaraderie and
00:35:56.300
they can go into a to a safe space and hear other guys talk about and i think manly topics yeah and
00:36:02.060
i think one of the whiskey women golf all that right deconstructing the deep state um i think one of the
00:36:08.620
best moments though on this campaign to sort of reverse engineer where they went so wrong on gender
00:36:14.620
you know when they had a full media meltdown about president trump standing up there and saying hey women
00:36:20.540
i'm going to protect you whether you like it or not right they put such a pejorative connotation on
00:36:25.980
that when in reality and maybe i'm a little shall we say trad i know alex wagner used that word
00:36:32.060
but that is what traditional masculinity this is trad this is trad i'm very from from l.a you're trad from
00:36:39.820
from uh from uh uh san fernando valley you're you're trad fernando valley what no okay the west side
00:36:47.500
west side santa monica no but you went to harvard westlake so that is on the west that is over you
00:36:52.860
got to go across the hill well the lower camp this is split i know okay but i i do think it is is
00:36:57.740
interesting because when the one of the refrains that you always heard from harris was i'm here to
00:37:02.540
help you president trump is here to enrich himself yes government we don't want you we don't want your
00:37:09.100
help right and i think that that chips away at fundamentally what the idea of masculinity is right
00:37:15.340
someone like kamala harris coming in and helping you and in reality i think what men want particularly
00:37:19.900
young men want is the ability to protect the women that they love in their lives and the way that they
00:37:24.940
protect women in their lives is not how can you say that when that was the total meltdown when
00:37:28.780
president trump said that well i'm here to protect you even if you don't but that shows you how far
00:37:33.820
they've gone and i think when you broaden out that critique it's not an attack explicitly or just only
00:37:39.500
on men it really boils down to i think the nuclear family right the idea of stripping that away and i
00:37:46.060
think men are longing and yearning for the ability to have a family it's of course interlinked with the
00:37:50.860
economic stuff too but when she brings up for example to i think the the military example right
00:37:56.380
she's saying oh these people feel like they've been deployed overseas and in return they've really
00:38:00.220
seen no benefit you know these are the young men and women who've had to actually look guns in the
00:38:06.780
eyes not just you know have highfalutin rhetoric from president trump about it liz cheney melts down
00:38:11.660
and when you see the leaders who are responsible for sending these people overseas
00:38:17.580
stab their families in the back by calling the supporters of the maga movement fascists right
00:38:23.180
if masculine put it this way if masculinity is what mark milley is is what john kelly is
00:38:29.340
then i don't think men want to be masculine because that represents an inversion right of what it means
00:38:34.460
to be a man and i i remember sitting there when we were talking about the migrant invasion while you
00:38:38.940
were in prison and i said the democrats version i don't know if you saw you in prison i'll catch you
00:38:43.580
up after the show but they put out this ad okay and it was the most dysgenic looking group of people
00:38:49.820
i probably have higher testosterone levels than most of the men that they used in the ad but that was
00:38:54.380
their big appeal to men and it was like you know the star wars bar of people and that was what they
00:38:59.740
thought was going to appeal to men right it shows you how out of out of touch they are but i think
00:39:03.980
their concept of masculinity is forcing men to sit in a cuck chair and watch their country be destroyed
00:39:11.740
right and they get off on it that's what they want they want to strip you of your agency so when
00:39:16.460
kamala harris waltzes in there and says hey look i'm gonna help you the government's here here you
00:39:21.900
know the government's here to help no one wants that but they fundamentally don't understand that
00:39:27.340
i think the woke stuff is sort of a sideshow it's not as important of an issue to get into
00:39:35.340
do i have mark is mark mitchell waiting is he up we have mark mitchell ed rasmussen he wants to come
00:39:41.020
on he's got he's got a lesson a real man a real pollster let me go back i want to make sure i because
00:39:47.740
i want to see how much time i had people's heads are going to blow up because john kelly is one of the most
00:39:51.900
revered combat marines he he he was the famous marine general that went to anbar province and
00:39:59.180
showed the marines were the toughest tribe when you say him about masculinity is it because of what
00:40:04.300
he did with president trump is that is that what you're is that what you're questioning his when
00:40:08.140
you talk about manhood well well two things i think that's part of it but i think that that's a
00:40:12.860
symptom of a bigger idea in which these people have subscribed and essentially i think ushered forward a
00:40:20.380
concept of american regime american statehood where your average man they don't care about
00:40:27.420
their lives and it's obvious in the way that they deploy them everywhere to every country to every
00:40:33.500
border except our own and i think the harshest and most offensive juxtaposition is when you see them
00:40:39.580
treating our military like the equivalent of an international fema where what matters to them what
00:40:45.740
marks an emergency is if you know democracy and some baltic nation that this country doesn't even
00:40:50.780
care about is under siege or you know if a couple of russians are trickling over into ukrainian
00:40:56.060
territory or if the pocketbooks and the profit margins of boeing and raytheon are being undercut
00:41:01.100
right that's what constitutes an emergency for them but juxtapose that with what happened in north
00:41:05.500
carolina right you want to talk about a lack of masculinity the fact that the federal government did
00:41:11.180
absolutely nothing and they hid behind mainstream media cameras and you know weird statements from
00:41:17.100
pete buddha judge on twitter saying that no what we're doing we're actually no they they told people
00:41:21.740
to stand down and they hid behind the shroud of misinformation and tried to blame it on other
00:41:26.460
people i think it is through those juxtapositions the hypocrisy the irony that people get really
00:41:32.700
fundamentally mad and it's the blowback not just to the feminist movement i've always thought
00:41:37.180
discussions like that are reductive it's why i don't really wage into the culture or gender stuff
00:41:42.060
um it's but it's a salient political force and as much as you know andrew tate love him hate him
00:41:49.100
he tapped in to that with young men right there is a blowback a kind of backlash to the over
00:41:56.460
promotion of feminism in the form of people like kamala harris even being having a slim chance of
00:42:02.060
becoming the commander-in-chief woefully underqualified i don't even think she ever prosecuted a case we all
00:42:06.780
know how she got to where she got to right and then in the same breath she laments the me too
00:42:11.020
movement okay but the point is there's a backlash to it and i think finally you saw the convergence of
00:42:17.660
the matrix of persuasion and mobilization because young men hadn't been reached out to really before
00:42:24.540
because i think they thought they were so politically apathetic right but they finally met them where they
00:42:30.140
were and i think that's one of the sort of under told stories of the campaign but it's why i also think
00:42:35.260
too the media is also so on the back foot and this is interesting too the columbia journalism review
00:42:40.460
which you're talking about in 5 p.m they put out their long form article saying oh we need to endorse
00:42:46.860
a maddow style resistance one of the ideas that they had come with maddow coming out and talking about
00:42:52.620
the media it's got to be the lead of resistance yeah they believe they coined maddowvian as an adjective
00:42:58.860
which i kind of like um but they said that one of their potential solutions was creating
00:43:04.060
a sort of you know grassroots non-corporate backed podcast network that's very left-wing heavy
00:43:09.980
wow but it's why conservatives dominate on talk radio right they can't do it without that so i don't
00:43:15.500
really i think if they're thinking that oh the reason why kamala harris lost is because she didn't go
00:43:22.060
on joe rogan that's missing the forest for the trees that's a symptom not the broader issue and
00:43:28.460
it's not when when we we sell ourselves short i think when we spin the issue merely as oh it's you
00:43:34.060
know trannies and when women's sports or oh it's you know it's this oh oh it's a harvard westlake they
00:43:39.740
had more tranny bathrooms than kids who were trans you got to gotta have surge capacity they were like
00:43:46.300
there's one although can i tell real quick happy happy story so there's a kid who transitioned in
00:43:51.980
my class because we had this crazy short-haired like purple teacher and he literally told me
00:43:57.980
the reason that i transitioned was because this teacher told me that like you know i was non-binary
00:44:03.020
whatever whatever and you know what he who became she and then became a he again came back and became
00:44:09.500
he came back became a he and reverse transition reverse transitioned and texted me on tuesday night
00:44:16.860
saying trump with an american flag are you kidding me that what a great story that is i know
00:44:22.380
and is the nephew of a rather famous hollywood producer who i won't dox but um yeah so that that
00:44:29.980
was a happy moment but no the the gender stuff i think is it's not really a gender thing it's a
00:44:35.980
symptom of of a culture and economic issue um and i think that our side treats it rather
00:44:41.500
reductively when we reduce it to to merely you know woke sports talking about gender let me go to a
00:44:49.900
tim miller and a tweet from tim miller i'm gonna let you handle this because i can't okay i'm listening
00:44:54.460
i can't last week at the ban and presser several of his acolytes were adamant and private that the
00:45:01.980
dems would try to block trump if he won it's probably too much to hope that any credit is
00:45:07.820
given for respecting democracy and treating this transition in a manner trump doesn't deserve
00:45:15.420
i mean we were sitting there saying that they know we know they're going to contest it if president
00:45:19.740
trump if it's tight like they're doing in pennsylvania right now they're going to get a whole churn
00:45:24.540
um it's not if you take a blowout right first of all tim you guys didn't take the house so i'm
00:45:29.900
sorry for your loss but let's be frank uh but look here here's the thing we defended democracy in 2020
00:45:38.620
by doing the stop the steel stuff obviously a couple people colored outside the lines i'm not
00:45:42.620
defending those but what we did was democracy to its core yes and by the way tim too i don't even
00:45:48.460
accept your premise because you guys are actively working to i would say subvert democracy in the sense
00:45:56.140
that you guys are now organizing yeah you it's your last ditch effort it's your last choice to
00:46:01.180
only have civil society at your disposal but that's all that you have so the fact that you're not trying
00:46:07.020
to do anything else like congrats you don't control any other level what does he mean treating this
00:46:11.420
transition a manner trump doesn't deserve we're just seeing every night she's walking she's walking
00:46:15.740
through here's what the resistance has got to be they're already doing the hits on mass they're having
00:46:20.060
private phone calls with the dhs secretary how they can import the maximum number of illegal aliens
00:46:25.420
into this country um respect that transition how about is that foreign election interference is that
00:46:30.940
democracy subversion importing people from countries that consistently rank in the bottom 10 percentile
00:46:36.300
of most democratic i mean haiti for example how about this tim haiti hasn't had an election i think since
00:46:41.580
2016 and you support flying in bussing in shipping in tens of thousands of people into the most
00:46:48.220
patriotic red-blooded communities where are all you democracy defenders how's that they don't need
00:46:53.820
to assimilate jim rickards has got the newsletter this global newsletter that walks you through capital
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the different uh all the different versions of the letter he's got special letters professional he's got a
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general letter i think comes out once a month we're going to try to get records on tomorrow is that
00:47:22.300
we're going to try to do or if not saturday tomorrow okay jim rickards or join us also not tomorrow
00:47:29.100
saturday or maybe next week maybe sometime it's a busy man i'm busy man i'm getting i'm getting i'm
00:47:35.420
getting stink eye from our producer okay let me let me okay let me reiterate no jim rickards or no jim
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right now some people that are in the engine room because they're saying oh my gosh suzy wiles is a
00:48:31.100
bush you have to you have to deal with the alternatives you have president trump and look
00:48:36.860
i laid out an alternative that he would go back to the maybe what jack kennedy did they thought the
00:48:43.180
uh eisenhower administration was too stodgy so what jack kennedy did particularly since he had his
00:48:49.820
brother bobby as the attorney general his dad said how about this don't have a chief of staff who
00:48:55.660
become too powerful what you do is have an appointment secretary that kind of you know keeps
00:49:00.620
the control of the oval office and bobby can help you just do it he didn't have it that could have
00:49:04.860
been an alternative for president trump president trump didn't want to do they want to have a
00:49:07.660
chief of staff the alternatives were principally kevin mccarthy and kevin mccarthy was really running
00:49:13.100
hard for this jeff miller the lobbyist was really pushing him for this if you'd had kevin mccarthy in
00:49:18.780
there you know you almost got to ask what i think our broadcasting license would have been yeah it's
00:49:23.900
almost like why did we do this why we just go through this also you know it was brook rollins and
00:49:27.740
burke's got done a thing over at afpi or uh but there's a lot of people think that that is kind
00:49:33.180
of a holding tank for a lot of rhino neoliberal neocon policies susie's kind of not an idy log and i
00:49:39.900
realize people are sitting there she's a bushy she was involved with this she's involved with that
00:49:43.980
she was she's been with president trump she joined in the darkest days she was in the 16 campaign okay
00:49:49.580
not in the white house but she came back and was on the uh joined him in the darkest days of early
00:49:54.860
2021 has been around long before he even got the campaign up and uh up and running and ran rick
00:50:01.500
scott's 2010 gubernatorial campaign which could help in the senate race was in desantis just did a
00:50:07.340
leadership she's very close to rick scott if we go that route to make sure mcconnell's flunkies can't
00:50:13.500
take over the senate there's a lot of moving pieces here steven miller steven miller would who i think
00:50:19.820
ought to be named immediately the mass deportation czar maybe he's deputy chief yeah we're not
00:50:26.060
talking border czar anymore it's mass deportation czar it's not borders now we're gonna build a wall
00:50:30.780
but you gotta you gotta deport millions and millions of people uh real quickly natalie thanks for doing
00:50:36.220
this and do uh what's your social media where do people get you natalie g winters on all social media
00:50:41.340
platforms okay fantastic uh i want to thank the team over revolver the team over at breitbart
00:50:49.340
cain citizen cain and the citizens free press the hoff brothers over at uh at gateway pundit i know
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