Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 680： The New World Order

00:00:00.000 I am absolutely livid about this because Donald Trump was put into office by millions and millions

00:00:14.040 of Americans who were Democrats two years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, 30 years ago,

00:00:20.580 over one campaign promise. And it was to significantly limit immigration, both legal

00:00:26.680 and illegal, because of course, both legal and illegal immigration reduce American wages because

00:00:33.920 labor is like everything else. It adheres to the ironclad law of supply and demand. The more you

00:00:39.760 have of it, the cheaper it is. And we should want, whether we are progressive leftists or whether

00:00:45.180 we're in the MAGA movement, we should want American workers to make decent wages so that our neighbors

00:00:51.760 are living the American dream, not just the elites. So in general, this is a massive betrayal of his

00:00:58.660 number one campaign promise. But let me just address very briefly the H-1B argument specifically.

00:01:05.100 So H-1Bs are defended on the grounds that, number one, we don't have the talent here, 0.80

00:01:10.760 so we need to import it. And number two, that we're doing a sort of brain drain from the rest

00:01:15.880 of the world. Let's bring in the best and the brightest. These are both nonsense. And I urge

00:01:20.820 your viewers to look the stats up. I'm going to repeat a few of them, but don't take my word for

00:01:26.360 it. Look it up. Right now, there are 17 million people living in this country who have a degree

00:01:31.400 in STEM, and only 9 million of them are employed in STEM jobs. There are a whole bunch of them,

00:01:39.280 many millions who are employed in other jobs, and 3 million who are not employed at all in STEM jobs.

00:01:44.540 So we have the supply of labor here. And if we went into the inner city and we went into

00:01:49.740 Appalachia, by God, you would find brilliant Americans there. The problem is that the industry

00:01:54.900 has a massive downward pressure on wages, so it is not attracting the brilliant and the brightest

00:02:00.980 of homegrown Native American talent. What we're doing is importing a whole bunch of people. So what 1.00

00:02:07.020 about this argument that these are the best and the brightest? Well, Pierce, you already mentioned

00:02:10.500 we have a visa for the best and the brightest, and you have it. The H-1B visa is being used to import

00:02:17.260 an indentured slave caste who are tied to an employer. They make on average $40,000 a year 0.56

00:02:24.020 less than Americans. There are 500,000 H-1B visas here, and 30% of STEM jobs are done by foreign

00:02:31.140 workers, people who were born somewhere else. That is by definition not the best and the brightest. 1.00

00:02:37.200 This is not a brain drain of the world. It is a wage drain of Americans who should be middle class,

00:02:44.540 and instead their wages are being sucked upward in a funnel to billionaires like Elon Musk.

00:02:51.300 Well, A, that was a fantastic rant. And secondly...

00:02:55.680 Thank you, Pierce.

00:02:56.120 It's a kind of...

00:02:56.840 I think it's very important that we ask, why are Americans talking about this 10-year-old case

00:03:02.920 all of a sudden with so much vigor and so much interest? And the answer is because, as you led with,

00:03:09.260 Pierce, Elon Musk decided that this was going to be his cause du jour. And the reason that he decided

00:03:16.420 that, it seems to me, is to distract from the massive debate that he launched about H-1B visas

00:03:23.040 when he sided with foreign workers over American workers, and the fact that in response to criticism,

00:03:28.520 he has begun censoring people on Twitter in exactly the same way that conservatives used to be censored

00:03:35.840 on Twitter under the old regime. And in order to change the subject, he has decided to talk about

00:03:41.640 this decade-old case in Britain and take up this character. And you are right, you are both right,

00:03:47.620 it's not Islamophobic for people in England to debate this. But you know what I will not stand for?

00:03:53.080 What will make somebody my enemy is if people in America decide to talk about our Muslim neighbors

00:04:00.280 and friends and co-Americans who have nothing to do with this? And because a billionaire is throwing

00:04:08.180 a tantrum and trying to change the subject, we'll suddenly start talking about people in a totally

00:04:14.140 different country in a way that makes my neighbors feel uncomfortable, my neighbors feel unsafe in

00:04:21.000 America. And I think that's a really important point to make. Yeah, I do. Elon is not even in it just

00:04:25.260 for himself. He is a shill of the Chinese Communist Party. For all of his masquerading as some sort of 0.98

00:04:30.400 maverick who always tells the truth and is always explicit in his views and out there and always says

00:04:35.600 what he thinks, he has never once criticized the CCP. The opposite. He is constantly saying embarrassing,

00:04:42.260 humiliating, bending the knee things about how great the Chinese Communist Party is. Because of course,

00:04:48.040 his entire supply chain for Tesla is in China. So when they asked him to build a showroom for Tesla,

00:04:55.240 in Xinjiang, where the genocide of the Uyghurs is happening, he said, I would love to. And he went

00:05:02.100 ahead and did it. So this is a person who is totally in the pocket of the CCP to see him as

00:05:06.920 anything else than an actual apparatchik of China is to really miss, I think, the forest for the trees.

00:05:15.660 Welcome. It's January 6th. It's Monday, 6th January, Year of the Lord 2025. One of the things I feel great

00:05:21.580 about when you have people like Natalie Winters and right there, Bacia Unger Sargon, that can go from

00:05:28.120 zero to 60 instantaneously and be ripping the face off billionaires. He couldn't get on a stage with

00:05:36.480 them. It's not defensible. They bring the heat. That's bringing the heat. Look at Piers Morgan does

00:05:42.260 this for a living. He's just back and goes, man, that's quite a rant. That's professional grade

00:05:47.540 right there. Lays it all out. Ben Harnwell, thanks for staying up. We got a lot to go through, but I'll

00:05:53.140 get the rest of it to you tomorrow. But I do have to deal with this situation in Europe. The greatest

00:06:00.800 living Englishman, Nigel Farage, who labored for 20 years, and I was over there for part of it,

00:06:09.420 going to these little meetings, like Tea Party meetings, to spread the word about the United

00:06:15.320 Kingdom getting their sovereignty back. It ended up being Brexit. What he did, it's the most important

00:06:22.580 political thing. Honestly, it's just two notches down from Churchill. And then you have a freefall

00:06:30.260 to all the other British leaders, including Thatcher. What Nigel Farage did for his people

00:06:35.620 is greater than what Thatcher did. And she did incredible. I'm a huge Iron Lady fan.

00:06:43.280 But to have Elon jump on this, and what Baccia said right there about Muslims from the United

00:06:48.860 States to go on this Rothman, hey, that, as you remember, Ben, Rahim Kassam is the first

00:06:55.320 guy to actually get going on it. Rahim wrote a book about this. Rahim was banned everywhere.

00:07:00.260 Breitbart, London, we were on this thing for years and years and years and trying to get the people

00:07:05.360 that Elon is appraising, the Tory party, particularly the new leader of the Tory party. She was in power

00:07:10.480 for 10 years and did nothing. This fight with Tommy Robinson, Tommy Robinson's a friend of the show,

00:07:16.220 and we've always supported Tommy Robinson. I committed, I don't know, two weeks ago,

00:07:20.200 three weeks ago at AmFest, Tommy Robinson's people came over. I gave Tommy a shout out in prison

00:07:24.740 and said that we would be there and be fully supportive when he gets out in September to be

00:07:28.920 there for his big rally, rallies that Rahim Kassam has put on before in London, as you know.

00:07:34.960 So this is just, and what it shows you, it's very simple. It's not even about a glass jaw.

00:07:41.600 Because of the affliction he has of whatever it is, right, he calls people retards,

00:07:46.900 which I think is an unacceptable smear on folks. But whatever his issue is and issues he's got,

00:07:55.500 they fantasize, they're like little boys, they fantasize like being the hero, the adoration.

00:07:59.860 The worst thing that happened in this guy is the adoration he got from the crowds,

00:08:04.480 President Trump's rallies in the run-up to the election. You can see him jumping around like,

00:08:09.020 you know, he looked like Andrew Giuliani. Remember when Rudy was getting sworn in back the first time

00:08:15.560 he beat Dinkins, I think, and Andrew Giuliani's on the thing and, you know, bouncing around and,

00:08:20.320 you know, couldn't, you know, had a little bit of, had a little bit of ADD, I think.

00:08:25.320 Andrew at the time was a little boy, bouncing around, couldn't keep still.

00:08:29.720 My mom used to say, you got ants in your pants, right, the old school,

00:08:33.420 before you got a slap upside the head.

00:08:35.040 Now he's bouncing around on the stage. Elon's bouncing around the stage, sucking it all in. 0.75

00:08:40.680 He's finally the geek that the high school class says, oh, you're a cool kid, and he's just dancing around.

00:08:47.200 The look is like, you know, he's seen, heaven's parted and he's seen nirvana.

00:08:52.000 And now the adoration of the crowd's not there because they understand what a scam it is.

00:08:57.020 He sat there and mocked the American people and said he's going to turf you, this audience,

00:09:01.080 out of the Republican Party, all the work that you've done for a guy from South Africa

00:09:05.060 that has, I don't know, multiple citizenships, citizen of every country he kind of lights in.

00:09:10.720 He's going to tell you how to run your country, given all the work he does.

00:09:15.080 So all of a sudden, when the adoration changed, he then had to go to the social credit store.

00:09:19.200 He went to his paymasters, he went to the system his paymasters have in China.

00:09:25.040 He went to the pay, by the way, I've got to get my clock fixed here, if you don't mind.

00:09:28.620 Thank you, sir. Right there. Be nice if I had it.

00:09:32.900 He went to the social credit score.

00:09:36.940 And then when the adoration really came, you know, in reverse, he had to go overseas for monsters to slay.

00:09:44.580 And he came upon this story that's 10 years old.

00:09:47.040 And it's a horrible story. I agree with people when they say it is one of the biggest open sores in the West.

00:09:55.580 But Ben Harnwell, you've been there from the beginning.

00:09:58.380 For him to say, and to show you how out of touch he is, that Nigel's not right to run the Reform Party.

00:10:04.740 Dude, he found the Reform Party. He is the Reform Party.

00:10:07.620 It just shows you his naivete and kind of the dangerous, when you give an 11-year-old boy, you know, a massive weapon and he can, you know, with no constraints, use it.

00:10:21.060 But it doesn't matter. It'll pass.

00:10:22.540 He has, his power and influence is one thing.

00:10:27.180 The checks he can write. Let's be blunt.

00:10:28.800 He wrote $250 million worth of checks in five months, unparalleled, in a third-party thing to support the ground game.

00:10:35.680 And I am the first to say, understanding and having put together that strategy, he got it and he backed it up with money.

00:10:43.140 The campaign didn't have the money.

00:10:44.760 The RNC didn't have the money.

00:10:46.380 Elon Musk, his engineering brain, got it.

00:10:48.340 And he deserves not just respect for that, but he deserves a place at the table.

00:10:54.860 Now, the place at the table doesn't have to be the head of the table, and it certainly doesn't have to be making demands or making orders.

00:11:00.800 But I'm interested in your thoughts, Ben, since you've been – I met you back, I don't know, in 13 or 14 at that time, and you were in Rome, but you were very involved in all this, sir.

00:11:11.580 Well, I'm going to start off with this point, right?

00:11:13.620 Yes, I mean, Elon Musk has a lot of power and influence in the world right now.

00:11:19.120 He's the world's richest man.

00:11:20.600 He owns, you know, Twitter.

00:11:23.600 But there's another factor, I think, that gives him influence in the world when he's contributing to other political movements, and that is his proximity to Donald Trump.

00:11:34.120 So I'm going to open with this aside and then get on to the actual point I want to make.

00:11:39.360 Given the fact that he is now leading this doge and is a very senior consultant to the new administration, not formally in the cabinet, but as soon as he's being presented of that order, I'd like to just throw this in there.

00:11:56.660 I'm seeing as Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, has instructed all cabinet members to have their tweets and communications run through her through approval first.

00:12:08.080 I think if Elon wants to be a team player in this administration, he should voluntarily submit to do exactly the same.

00:12:16.740 He should submit all of his social – in future, because of his proximity to the president, he should submit all of his tweets for publication to Susie Wiles, and she can decide whether it's appropriate or not.

00:12:30.080 Close brackets.

00:12:30.760 The point I want to make about Elon Musk here is very illustrative, and I agree with everything that you and Bertie have said at the beginning, but I have a different angle to come in on this.

00:12:44.180 Starting off with Tommy Robinson, I absolutely think that Tommy Robinson, as far as the future of the UK is concerned, is part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

00:12:55.580 But I will openly admit that it is not a majority opinion in the UK right now.

00:13:03.740 And the one person who understands Great Britain and the British people is Nigel Farage, right?

00:13:10.200 The fact – and you said – you hinted – well, you said it explicitly on the show a couple of days ago – the fact that Elon Musk has been in this movement for five minutes and comes in, and he has sort of overwritten in his own imaginations that he understands the British public better than Nigel Farage.

00:13:30.220 This illustrates one thing, Steve.

00:13:32.420 It shows you that this guy, however much of a genius he might be at building cars or space rockets or what have you, and, you know, even though he's, as Laura Loomer called him the other day on this show, a corporate welfare queen, massively subsidized by the CCP and by the American taxpayer, I think he has a certain genius when it comes to these things.

00:13:53.960 But – put that aside to me – but hang on, but hang on.

00:14:23.940 He has given a lot of – given a lot of good that he is an unstable force and he cannot be relied upon.

00:14:31.580 No, it's always in his self-interest.

00:14:34.660 That's the situation here.

00:14:36.120 I will say, for full disclosure, because we've always – I've always liked Tommy.

00:14:43.480 I always liked the cut of his jib.

00:14:44.940 And I realize – but I – and you're an Englishman.

00:14:49.380 You can tell me.

00:14:49.920 Remember, I'm Irish, so it's quite different.

00:14:52.340 I've always thought it was kind of a class thing.

00:14:55.200 You know, Tommy Robinson is a tough character.

00:15:00.780 He's more towards the lad or to the hooligan side of, you know, British football or British soccer.

00:15:07.680 He's a street fighter.

00:15:08.700 He's a tough guy.

00:15:10.060 And those guys come out – I mean, when Raheem would put on those – when Raheem would put on those rallies for Tommy, I mean, his followers, they got some guys that are – you know, they'll throw a few punches.

00:15:19.460 They will not back down.

00:15:21.180 I've always felt that Nigel – in all British politics, the one reason you don't have, I believe, a bigger populist nationalist movement in England is a little bit of the class thing.

00:15:33.500 Now, Elon's completely wrong because he doesn't understand any of it.

00:15:37.760 He's just in there just – you know, he's trying to change the conversation.

00:15:40.980 He's not trying to advance the football.

00:15:42.400 Although I do realize that Nigel – and Nigel has been very precise and his – and that team of his has been very precise from the beginning with Brexit and all of it.

00:15:52.300 I remember he used to say if you unite those two – because his was immigration, and Tommy's not perfect on immigration.

00:15:59.920 Tommy really focuses on the – I would say the anti-Muslim part of the anti-radical part of it, obviously tied around South Asian and this grooming situation. 0.81

00:16:08.420 So they're not totally complementary, but there definitely has been a divide between those two working together.

00:16:17.420 And I do believe that at some point in time, they will have to work together.

00:16:22.280 And I've always looked at Tommy Robinson as a leader, right?

00:16:27.120 And, you know, people say, well, how can he be a leader?

00:16:29.800 He always ends up back in jail for some reason.

00:16:32.400 Well, he's a political prisoner.

00:16:33.500 And, you know, overnight people were telling me behind the scenes, well, he's not a political prisoner.

00:16:38.140 He, you know, he violated this. 0.82

00:16:40.300 And I said, no, but it was such a small, ridiculous thing that he is a political prisoner. 0.93

00:16:44.880 They want to put him in a way to shut him up.

00:16:47.140 Now – and I realize you being English that I should – for full disclosure, when I deal with my British friends, they don't agree with me at all on this point.

00:16:55.540 At all.

00:16:56.480 They go, you don't understand it.

00:16:58.140 I happen to think I do kind of get this and where it can evolve to and where I see it evolving to.

00:17:04.680 But right now, it's definitely – and I do believe – I might be wrong.

00:17:07.560 I think that that is still the residue of the class differences.

00:17:12.500 Britain has much stronger class distinctions.

00:17:16.040 Maybe I can say that as an Irishman that – and my family did go to – they went to – many of them went to Liverpool to try to make it after they couldn't make it in Ireland.

00:17:25.580 And they went to Liverpool to try to make it, couldn't make it there, and that was the crowd that really led the way to the United States.

00:17:30.820 Ben Harnwell.

00:17:32.500 Steve, look, the thing is, Nigel Farage, especially looking at the way politics is going right now,

00:17:39.760 Nigel Farage has a very serious possibility of being prime minister.

00:17:46.100 Now, the sad reality is – and some people won't like me saying this – but the sad reality is I think the Muslim bloc vote 20 years ago could control 100 of the UK's 650 seats.

00:18:02.700 That was 20 years ago.

00:18:03.740 It's going to be 200 of those seats now.

00:18:05.880 Like I said, the Muslims dispersed across the country can hold in their hands without even trying the formation of any future political government. 1.00

00:18:17.860 As I said at the beginning, I think Tommy Robinson's part of the solution going forward.

00:18:24.180 But Nigel Farage understands a lot better than Elon Musk the message he is going to need to craft to become prime minister.

00:18:33.800 And a hard-line anti-Islamic message – and as I said, not everyone will like me saying this.

00:18:40.020 Not a lot of people necessarily would agree with me saying this.

00:18:43.260 But it's my reading of the situation that if Nigel Farage pushed a Tommy Robinson – look, there's a difference why Tommy Robinson is on about half a percent of popularity in the country.

00:18:56.680 And I do think he's a hero, a real hero.

00:18:59.600 And Nigel Farage is on around 40 percent.

00:19:02.760 If Nigel Farage imitated Tommy Robinson's policy positions, his popularity in the polls would start mirroring Tommy Robinson's.

00:19:12.960 And I say, Tommy Robinson is a hero, right?

00:19:15.740 Nigel Farage wants to be prime minister.

00:19:17.780 He has a serious chance of doing it.

00:19:20.080 And if Elon Musk had had the emotional maturity to say to Nigel Farage what he said to the Trump campaign,

00:19:26.920 what do you need from me to be able to help you, then the situation in the UK would be very different now.

00:19:34.620 As it is, they seem to have had a rupture.

00:19:36.740 And that is – I repeat, that's because Elon Musk, for all of his autistic genius, he does not know what he does not know. 0.61

00:19:45.560 And that is fatal for anybody who's setting themselves up as a concierge in international politics.

00:19:52.840 Yeah.

00:19:53.460 Let me go back to Nigel.

00:19:54.920 It's not that he wants to be prime minister.

00:19:57.380 I think he believes he needs to be prime minister at this point in time to essentially fully execute on Brexit and, in doing so, save his country.

00:20:07.120 Nigel is one of the most – Nigel Farage could have punched out and done things and made so much more money over the last 10, 15 years I've known him.

00:20:14.440 And I have never seen a more dedicated guy.

00:20:16.920 This guy works nonstop in this effort.

00:20:20.920 Look, it took 20 years for Brexit, 20 years.

00:20:24.520 And I was there, you know, let's see, 16 was the vote.

00:20:27.880 I started following those guys in 12 and 13.

00:20:30.220 I started following him in 10 and 11, but really 12 and 13 really went over there.

00:20:34.540 And this was like going to Tea Party meetings.

00:20:37.240 I mean, some of these talks and speeches were in people's houses.

00:20:39.640 Some were in front of 25 people, 50 people.

00:20:41.960 He would go anywhere and spend all of his time.

00:20:44.360 So he has a great feel for the country.

00:20:46.180 And politics in England is quite different in this regard.

00:20:49.460 And I agree with you.

00:20:50.120 And I'm not saying he should take all of Tommy Robinson's policies.

00:20:52.820 Tommy's got a different – Tommy has a different mandate.

00:20:56.200 I just believe at some point in time that they need to work together because I think Tommy brings a lot.

00:21:02.620 And I realize one of the reasons Tommy's – I think at the 1 percent – remember, if you look at the media in Britain,

00:21:08.380 they're 100 times worse than the media here in the United States.

00:21:11.640 I mean, BBC and these are really state-owned propaganda arms.

00:21:15.080 And that's one of the reasons they completely – they never tell Tommy's full story.

00:21:18.660 Am I wrong in that, Ben Harnwell?

00:21:20.880 Absolutely not.

00:21:21.880 A point I should have started with to the American audience is don't underestimate just how communist the UK is these days.

00:21:28.060 It is absolutely appalling.

00:21:29.780 Now, I'm not saying – look, I agree with you that the two of them should work together.

00:21:33.420 I agree with you.

00:21:34.040 But you know what?

00:21:35.200 That is Nigel Farage's call as to how, when, and at what speed, and not Elon Musk's, right?

00:21:44.180 Yes.

00:21:45.540 Yes, I agree 100 percent.

00:21:47.420 Nigel Farage is the greatest living Englishman.

00:21:50.320 So he saved his country.

00:21:51.320 Like, President Trump saved the country with coming in at 16 and, more importantly, coming back, like, Cincinnati's in 2020 or 2021 to avenge the steal as he saw it.

00:22:03.820 He says, hey, if I didn't know I had won in 20, I wouldn't have run.

00:22:06.600 He said that at AmFest.

00:22:07.560 One of the most important, powerful things President Trump has said.

00:22:10.240 Nigel basically gave his country its sovereignty back.

00:22:14.440 And as you know, Boris Johnson – and this is the great tragedy of the United Kingdom in Europe.

00:22:18.980 The great tragedy, Ben, instead of executing and implementing on that – because I knew Boris when he was a foreign minister in the administration, the prime minister, when we took power in 17 and they came over.

00:22:33.280 And you could see they looked at Brexit as a problem to work around, not as a solution to grab.

00:22:40.240 And then when Boris Johnson was prime minister, they did the exact strategy I thought would fail, which is to try to make England Singapore on the Thames, right, driven by the techs and the techs geniuses.

00:22:55.240 Go ahead, sir.

00:22:56.840 No, that's what they said, but they didn't even try to do that.

00:23:00.100 The Tory party, by the end, just had no idea what to do with power.

00:23:06.220 I mean, they didn't even have the vision to try Singapore on the Thames.

00:23:08.740 I would have wished them all – I would have seriously wished the country all the best if it had tried that.

00:23:14.940 It didn't even try that.

00:23:16.340 It was just a platitude, like expanding – like levelling up up in the Red Wall and those historic Labour constituencies that had come over to the Tories.

00:23:27.880 But Boris Johnson, it was a gimmick.

00:23:30.220 Boris Johnson didn't know what to do with that opportunity.

00:23:33.360 And it was, you know – it just – and Rishi Sunak.

00:23:39.560 What he did – what Boris Johnson did is what is going to engulf President Trump in the first days of his second term.

00:23:49.140 This Ukraine situation is coming at us because the Russian army is once again on the march and the Ukrainians are trying to have a counter-infestive.

00:23:56.420 More people are dying, more destruction.

00:23:58.400 This hole gets deeper and deeper.

00:23:59.800 However, they're looking now, as you know and you follow so closely, they have essentially turned to America and saying, Trump, bail us out.

00:24:07.760 We need your money for Reconstruction. 0.96

00:24:09.260 But most importantly, we need young American men and women to be hostages. 0.99

00:24:12.700 When they say a security guarantee, they mean a peacekeeping force of American troops so that, quote-unquote, America's committed.

00:24:21.180 And what they mean by that is your sons and daughters as hostages.

00:24:24.660 I'd love to be able to say it in a kinder way.

00:24:27.780 But to go back to Ian Bremmer, in the law of the jungle – and right now, folks, Ukraine is about as deep into the jungle as you can get. 0.95

00:24:35.520 They've lost 1.7 million people since we've been talking on this show in, what, since 22 when the war started, right, when the war started.

00:24:44.500 So – and they've killed or wounded 1.7 million people according to their statistics.

00:24:49.240 Law of the jungle.

00:24:50.580 And now they want the United States.

00:24:52.160 They want – once again, they want the boys and girls in the United States just like the young boys across the beach in Normandy,

00:24:58.320 just like the young boys in the 8th Air Force in the spring of 1942 to try to bail them out and to try to save them.

00:25:05.980 Once again, they want – this is the Boris Johnson of the world.

00:25:08.840 Instead of focusing on their own country, when Nigel Farage gave you your sovereignty back, gave you your sovereignty back,

00:25:17.160 instead of implementing that, what did he do?

00:25:18.860 He tried to be Winston Churchill and essentially initiated a war in the Eurasian landmass, sir.

00:25:23.400 So here's what – yeah.

00:25:26.060 So here's what Zelensky said, according to Reuters.

00:25:30.360 Without the United – and you used the words.

00:25:32.880 There's two words.

00:25:33.660 There's the trigger words for me.

00:25:35.580 Without the United States, security guarantees are not possible.

00:25:40.000 Well, look, I don't want to start paraphrasing Field Marshal Goering on the war room.

00:25:44.680 But when I hear the words security guarantees, I reach for my gun.

00:25:48.780 That – in those two words, that will undermine everything that this Trump administration could possibly hope to achieve.

00:25:56.480 And here's how it all ties together.

00:25:58.500 Because when Giorgia Maloney makes her mad dash to Mar-a-Lago for the kissy-kissy, this is one of the things – Ukraine is one of the things that she's pushing on Donald Trump to fold on.

00:26:13.280 And here's Italy with a 1.5 percent commitment of its GDP to defense, 1.5 percent.

00:26:21.740 That's a full 75 percent of what the NATO members are supposed to contribute.

00:26:29.120 Flying over to Washington, D.C., asking the United States, a president-elect who's just won a historic election.

00:26:39.400 Washington, it's all one, Steve.

00:26:42.200 We're going to let you go to bed.

00:26:43.940 What's your social media?

00:26:45.100 We'll let you go to sleep.

00:26:47.040 Yeah, I do need to.

00:26:48.060 Thank you.

00:26:49.060 Getter at Harnwell.

00:26:52.040 Thanks, Steve.

00:26:52.620 God bless.

00:26:53.240 Catch you tomorrow.

00:26:54.180 Thank you, brother.

00:26:54.940 See you tomorrow.

00:26:56.360 Short commercial break.

00:26:57.480 We're going to return Seagal Chatter next from Nevada. 1.00

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00:31:29.780 War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.

00:31:35.100 I'd like to send her condolences to one of the great patriots, Kim Shrouds, who is a tremendous supporter of this program.

00:31:43.560 The MAGA movement, President Trump from Virginia, just an incredible person, passed away over the holiday.

00:31:50.780 She got ill.

00:31:52.820 I think she got ill when I was in prison and then came out.

00:31:57.000 When I came out, she got, I think, even a little sicker and had to, I think, check into a hospice.

00:32:03.360 Just an extraordinary lady, her husband, David, a great couple, pure MAGA.

00:32:09.600 One thing about Kim is what most of this audience, she was not just a fighter, but she was available 24-7. 0.99

00:32:16.380 I mean, it didn't care what the task was.

00:32:20.800 So a true leader, and I think Mo's reached out.

00:32:26.560 We're going to try to see if we can't get, I think Mo's going to go down for the funeral service, whenever that is.

00:32:32.280 But Kim Shrouds has passed away over the weekend.

00:32:36.020 And a real loss to the country, a real loss to the MAGA movement, and I know a real loss to her family and her friends, but just an extraordinary person.

00:32:49.300 We'll get back more into the geopolitics of all this tomorrow.

00:32:54.400 I just want to leave it with you one more time, Ian Bremmer.

00:32:59.700 This lays the kind of geostrategic environment that President Trump is stepping into, the law of the jungle.

00:33:08.120 The post-war international rules-based order is over.

00:33:11.100 It's collapsed.

00:33:11.740 It's been collapsed because the elites were too selfish, too short-sighted, too greedy.

00:33:17.520 They gutted the working class and the middle class in the United States because of their greed and because of their self-awareness, and now we are where we are. 0.95

00:33:27.160 A new structure has to be built.

00:33:30.320 I think that's what Senator Rubio and President Trump and the team, you know, Rick Grinnell, and you've got Tom Barrack going to Turkey and KG going to Greece.

00:33:43.360 You've got other folks.

00:33:45.880 Was it Witkoff's going to be one of the envoys to the Middle East?

00:33:49.700 You've got people working on it.

00:33:50.900 You've got people at the State Department.

00:33:52.560 Pete Hegseth, I think we now know pretty – we're getting a good feel when John Thune says Hegseth's going to get confirmed as secretary of defense.

00:34:02.360 You've got Scott Besson's going to be secretary of treasurer.

00:34:05.180 We need a new structure.

00:34:06.640 The post-war international rules-based orders collapsed because the elites got too greedy, and quite frankly, they allowed the system to be gained by bringing the Chinese Communist Party that they then could exploit the people in China.

00:34:18.760 They allowed Beijing with their – the dictators that control their country, the most brutal regime, I think, in world history.

00:34:28.100 And that's saying something because there have been some pretty brutal regimes.

00:34:31.780 If you look at the 20th century, I don't think there's any doubt Mao.

00:34:35.400 If you look at Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, you know, take the whole collection of them. 0.75

00:34:39.780 There's some bad hombres.

00:34:40.660 And, you know, when you're comparing people to Hitler, it's – you know, that's quite a comparison.

00:34:48.600 And I think Mao – because I think Mao killed, I don't know, 200 million Chinese citizens himself, 200 million.

00:34:55.620 Didn't bat an eye.

00:34:57.200 But it killed 200 million more.

00:34:59.840 It's not – was not relevant to him.

00:35:02.260 A true butcher.

00:35:05.240 But that order has been infested with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:35:09.580 That's why it's collapsed.

00:35:10.660 And the American – of course, the American Atlanticists want to be an empire.

00:35:13.400 We don't want to be an empire.

00:35:14.280 We're not an empire.

00:35:15.500 We don't want to support an empire.

00:35:16.980 We don't want our sons and daughters spread out all over hell's half acre defending an empire.

00:35:22.280 We want to make sure the United States of America prospers.

00:35:26.700 It's been this – you know, like in this debate we have right now, you can see – I was following, going on YouTube and seeing some of the clips of the show of this thing between myself and Elon Musk.

00:35:36.260 And people's lack of understanding.

00:35:37.800 It's good people, smart people, but their lack of understanding just the basics even of economics.

00:35:43.900 They're not war room posse members.

00:35:45.740 They don't watch the show.

00:35:46.820 They don't – haven't begun the beginning of understanding the international economy or capital markets or how the economy here works or what deficits are.

00:35:56.660 And the naivete because they've been fed, oh, we need highly skilled foreign workers. 0.99

00:36:02.340 America cannot go for that highly skilled foreign workers. 1.00

00:36:05.240 That's a bald-faced lie, just a bald-faced lie.

00:36:07.660 What they want is more compliant indentured servants.

00:36:11.480 They want people they can pay a lot less, like 50 percent less.

00:36:14.060 They want 50 percent less and more compliant to do anything they're told.

00:36:18.020 They want indentured servants. 1.00

00:36:19.320 They like slaves.

00:36:20.300 They can't quite get away with slavery, so they'll do the next best thing, indentured servitude. 0.83

00:36:24.560 And we're going to break that.

00:36:26.020 It's not right.

00:36:26.880 It's not – people should not live like that.

00:36:29.620 They should not live like that, and certainly not in the United States of America in the 21st century.

00:36:34.200 Remember, the same people that are partners or business partners with the Chinese Communist Party are the same people bringing indentured slaves into the country. 0.94

00:36:41.260 They don't care about the common man. 0.99

00:36:43.620 They think the common man's trash. 0.93

00:36:46.320 They're trying to all the time go beyond homo sapien, homo sapien 2 plus 0 for themselves, to more perfect themselves materially, right, whether it's a chip or whether it's some sort of program they put in themselves. 0.95

00:36:58.380 There's goggles or whatever, right?

00:37:02.000 The goal of those guys is to live forever.

00:37:04.480 Their number one thing is eternal life because they don't believe in – they don't believe in the great faith of the Judeo-Christian West, the underpinnings.

00:37:15.800 They don't believe in eternal life.

00:37:17.320 They believe eternal life has to be manufactured to save their secular selves.

00:37:23.280 That's what their focus is.

00:37:24.540 So the same people that would partner – well, think about it.

00:37:28.060 Who would partner with the Chinese Communist Party?

00:37:29.880 You would only partner with it if you didn't believe in humanity and itself because Lao Baijing, the Chinese people, the common – all hundred names, the common man there, they're the most decent, hardworking folks, tremendous sense of humor, kind of this real understanding of humanity and the frailty of life and the irony of life.

00:37:49.440 Anybody would partner with a regime that brutalized those folks?

00:37:57.080 And then, of course, they bring in the indentured servitude here because they don't care about citizens. 0.70

00:38:00.700 They don't care about Americans.

00:38:02.080 They're not American. 1.00

00:38:03.460 They're not.

00:38:04.160 Just because you've got a passport, don't make you American. 0.99

00:38:11.660 Suck on that. 1.00

00:38:14.480 Seagal Chata, you've got something up in the Arizona press that I think everybody needs to know about. 0.99

00:38:19.920 You're a fighter.

00:38:21.900 You're an old school. 0.78

00:38:22.860 You're kind of an Old Testament fighter.

00:38:25.380 I am.

00:38:25.720 You should know out in Nevada, one of the reasons we won is because of the great work she did from the very beginning.

00:38:33.000 And I know that you are looking to help either justice or U.S. attorney.

00:38:36.820 You're there to work for President Trump to help him take it to the next level.

00:38:41.740 What are you saying?

00:38:42.460 This is kind of a disturbing article.

00:38:44.420 Give our audience your theory of the case and what your recommended course of action is, ma'am.

00:38:48.880 Well, first of all, hat tip to my translator, editor, Megan Bart, who really takes my work and, you know, de-lawyerizes it for the public.

00:39:02.300 Basically, what, you know, the whole notion of the article is really kind of a call to action for all our administrative agencies to work together to ensure that, you know, that we really get a hold of this domestic terrorism.

00:39:21.260 You know, we've been called Islamophobes and, you know, xenophobes and everything for so long that, you know, it was almost abusive in nature.

00:39:32.940 And then the two things that you do see, look, I was right in the middle of, you know, the whole Tesla incident here in Las Vegas.

00:39:42.940 And, you know, we saw what happened over the weekend in New Orleans.

00:39:46.740 And I think really what we're seeing is we're seeing a kind of reawakening of, you know, the common sense law that needs to be administered and things that, you know, after 15 years of abuse of, you know, Barack Obama's sentiments and Eric Holder's sentiment, it's time to start, you know, calling into action and using the laws that we have to prosecute domestic terrorists.

00:40:14.500 And, you know, I personally, I call them enemy combatants because they're belligerent aliens that are existing and living in this country that want to destroy America from within. 0.99

00:40:26.360 So how do you how do you do that on a fine line that because domestic terrorism for these guys has has been people that in patriot groups, people that believe in limited government, many people in the MAGA movement.

00:40:42.180 Hell, we got prisons full of people from January 6th on the four year anniversary of that event.

00:40:48.620 How do you how do you do that?

00:40:51.740 I mean, we can't even designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, which should have been done.

00:40:56.080 We couldn't do it in the first Trump term is I tell people I had a lot of wins on that one.

00:41:00.840 It went nowhere.

00:41:02.520 I mean, the administrative deep state shut that down at the very even mention of it.

00:41:07.040 So how do you balance that?

00:41:08.480 Because I know you're also a big believer in civil liberties.

00:41:11.480 How do you balance that with all the abuses of the Patriot Act and then having these laws turned against basic patriotic Americans, particularly veterans, that they were looking at, you know, that the white Christian male was the number one domestic terrorist in the country? 0.50

00:41:27.920 Ma'am.

00:41:28.200 Ma'am.

00:41:29.200 Right.

00:41:29.700 And, you know, and I do have concerns about civil liberties being violated, you know, under the Patriot Act.

00:41:36.400 And one of the things that we still have today, which is the USA's Freedom Act that basically keeps a lot of what the Patriot Act did, but it does allow for roving wiretaps.

00:41:51.080 It does allow for certain things.

00:41:53.020 And you have to balance it with national security interests.

00:41:55.520 And I'll tell you what, you ask any one of those 14 parents that lost their children, if they would have minded if they were under surveillance under the Patriot Act, if it would bring their children back, and they would all tell you no.

00:42:11.420 At the same time, we need to make sure, look, I was right in the midst of Operation GC in 2006 in Las Vegas when all the mess went down with, you know, private businessmen being wiretapped under the Patriot Act.

00:42:31.260 So we have to make sure that we don't have those types of, you know, data dumps and data collections and mass bulk data collection.

00:42:41.420 But at the same time, I think if you ask most Americans, they wouldn't allow certain, you know, certain wiretaps to be done with in the interest of national security.

00:42:55.300 We don't want to see abuses of Title III that we have seen, but at the same time, again, you know, I think in the interest of national security, you have to be able to give up some rights for that.

00:43:09.440 What advice do you have for the caches of the world and for Pam Bonney and the folks taking over DOJ when you have on one side, obviously, radical Islamic jihad and terrorists.

00:43:24.540 But then you've got a Muslim population here in the United States that, by and large, to a large extent, just wants to get on with life. 1.00

00:43:31.440 It's peaceful, just wants to get on with it.

00:43:33.240 And then you've got a tremendous amount of folks in these Patriot groups that are constantly being surveyed, surveilled.

00:43:39.360 I mean, even I came, it was my parish, my parents' parish of Tridentine Catholicism that the memo was written about in the Richmond field office.

00:43:48.100 They thought that that was a breeding ground for white nationalists, right, because these people are super patriotic.

00:43:54.840 And, you know, they're working class and lower middle class. 0.97

00:43:58.520 So how do you balance that?

00:44:00.140 I mean, what would you tell Kash, given the fact that radical jihad is still a massive problem?

00:44:05.060 And to be brutally frank, with Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood in Turkey, and you're seeing the reestablishment, they're trying to be the reestablishment of the Ottoman Empire and the caliphate. 0.91

00:44:14.820 This is only going to get worse for that aspect of it.

00:44:18.240 What is your recommendation?

00:44:20.300 You know, here's what I think.

00:44:21.680 I think there's, you know, the issues that we have are twofold, right?

00:44:24.260 So first of all, what I would want to see is I would want to see the MCA, the Military Commissions Act, being reinstated and used under this presidency, and really kind of a joint collaboration between the FBI, the DOD, the CIA, the NSA.

00:44:42.420 We have to all collaborate to make sure that, yeah, those civil liberties are protected, but at the same time, national security interests are placed first.

00:44:51.720 So that's one thing.

00:44:52.780 A second thing is, let's take it down to the states, and let's deal with, you know, the FBI, the local FBI, and do joint task forces, so joint terrorist task forces, JTTF, with local police forces.

00:45:06.120 I mean, here in Las Vegas, we're very lucky.

00:45:08.220 We've got the Fusion Center, and we've got a JTTF here with the FBI and LVMPD.

00:45:15.680 I mean, so we really have to establish that and strengthen it on the state level, and then obviously those state-level prosecutions, which are under Article III courts, would be done with Pam Bondi and under Pam Bondi's auspices and supervision, really.

00:45:36.080 Do you think that with cash at the FBI, would you recommend to him, because two-thirds of the FBI today, and this is why I say cash is one of the most qualified people ever put up for the office.

00:45:48.500 Two-thirds, I think, of the budget, the manpower are now in intelligence, counterintelligence, and counterterrorism.

00:45:54.060 Should the FBI be bifurcated and broken up and that be put in DHS or another entity that's focused domestically and make sure the CIA is totally out of it, they're just international, and make sure the FBI, what's ever left of the federal law enforcement, is a law enforcement function against, you know, drug dealers and mob guys and things like that and child trafficking while the counterintelligence, counterterrorism and intelligence apparatus is separate, ma'am?

00:46:21.740 You know, I can't tell Cash how to run the FBI.

00:46:25.800 I mean, Cash is very competent, and Cash has both a background of a public defender and a prosecutor.

00:46:33.180 He knows that fine line.

00:46:36.060 As far as, I think when we're dealing with domestic terrorism, I think we need to refocus to the highest and best use.

00:46:44.040 I think what we saw is, you know, Christopher Wray lied to the American public and say that, you know, that the Richmond, Virginia incident where parents were being surveilled and Catholics were being surveilled as an anomaly was an absolute lie.

00:47:02.120 And I think that, you know, what we need to do is we really need to make sure that there's, you have to have a collaborative effort because when you don't have collaboration between the FBI and the DOJ and, you know, even the CIA and all the intel agencies, that's when things get lost.

00:47:24.260 And we saw that happen before 9-11, and that's one of the – I think that that was one of the issues with 9-11 is nobody was communicating.

00:47:34.000 But now that we have that protocol that really Bush put into place, once you have that protocol established, we can really fix this country in four years.

00:47:46.540 Seagal, where do people go to get the article and where they go for your social media platform?

00:47:50.660 So the article is found on Nevada Globe's website.

00:47:55.140 They could follow me, ChaddifforNevada.

00:47:57.960 It's on Twitter, GetterX, and TruthSocial.

00:48:06.700 Seagal, thank you so much.

00:48:08.120 Appreciate you doing a great job out there for President Trump in the election.

00:48:12.220 Just amazing.

00:48:13.100 Thank you for all the work you're doing.

00:48:13.820 Thank you so much, Steve.

00:48:15.280 Have a good evening.

00:48:17.660 That's another worker right there. 1.00

00:48:19.160 However, the reason this movement's going forward, the reason President Trump's being so successful is people like the Kim Shrouds of the world, the Seagal Chattas, just incredible. 0.94

00:48:28.380 People that will roll their sleeves up and get things done.

00:48:33.520 Turbulence.

00:48:34.460 I didn't even get today with four hours of show.

00:48:38.660 If we can put this up, maybe, and I'll talk about it tomorrow.

00:48:40.740 So on the weekend Financial Times of London, as you know, my favorite paper, and the Saudi paper is my favorite, there was a massive, massive piece on our own Dr. Peter Navarro.

00:48:50.700 Now, Dr. Navarro is no longer with us here in the war room.

00:48:54.180 Dr. Navarro is a key part of the transition team for President Trump.

00:48:57.780 And Peter Navarro, on the 20th, will return as a senior counselor to the President of the United States, one of the 12 top people in the entire White House.

00:49:07.900 In fact, I think senior counselors in the top two or three, along with, like, chief of staff.

00:49:11.960 Peter will be senior counselor, and he'll be in charge of manufacturing, tariffs, trade deals, all of that.

00:49:17.760 And he'll be right there in the West Wing so that he can be close to President Trump.

00:49:21.400 So Jillian Tett is the senior financial editor at the Financial Times of London, quite brilliant, a capital markets expert, a monetary expert.

00:49:31.840 She spent some time with Peter, a little bit of time with myself.

00:49:34.920 Incredible article about Peter Navarro, his background, but really his beliefs.

00:49:39.000 It's called Magonomics.

00:49:40.840 Really gets down into talking about industrial, what, you know, bringing manufacturing back to the United States, bringing high-value-edged manufacturing jobs.

00:49:48.360 Obviously, always focused on advanced technology, what needs to be done in trade and tariffs.

00:49:54.560 One of the things that becomes quite clear, and I've gotten this from Jay, on the feedback they've gotten from the Financial Times, which is, you know, and she's up front saying it's, we've been at loggerheads with those folks for years and years and years.

00:50:06.820 In fact, the mention of me in the article is about how I treat the Financial Times as like the church newsletter of a religion that we're trying to crush. 0.79

00:50:14.500 So we've really opposed the neoliberal, neocon aspects of the Financial Times, and they give as good as they get.

00:50:22.460 But people really, if you get a chance, I'm going to try to put these articles up later on Getter so everybody can get them.

00:50:28.060 You don't need a subscription to the Financial Times.

00:50:31.360 Incredible piece.

00:50:32.340 I know the feedback she's getting.

00:50:33.980 And here's what's interesting.

00:50:34.860 People who had no understanding at all really about Magonomics or Peter Navarro or the trade deals.

00:50:41.240 Remember, most economists, when you talk to them, they don't really know much about tariffs because in modern economics, they don't focus much on trade.

00:50:48.060 Trade is so essential to everything.

00:50:50.620 This is why Peter is such an extraordinary individual.

00:50:52.920 And President Trump is maniacally focused on those tariffs.

00:50:55.760 In fact, he came out just a little while ago before I came on TV.

00:50:58.840 There's a Washington Post article out how around President Trump there's all this fighting already, as we had in 2017 on tariffs, on like the NAFTA deal, the new NAFTA deal, deals with the Koreans, Japanese, the major China deal that Peter and Lighthizer get done in May of 19 but never got signed by the Chinese.

00:51:22.780 They walked away from it, all the fighting on trade and tariffs and all of it.

00:51:26.980 Modern economics just don't focus on it.

00:51:28.660 It's absolutely central.

00:51:29.500 President Trump came out just a little while ago, told Reuters, hey, I don't know who was talking to my team, but I'm more committed to tariffs than anything.

00:51:37.860 And I'm driving, you know, high tariffs to bring jobs back for the country and, quite frankly, rejuvenate, get some money in the Treasury.

00:51:46.300 So I think you're going to see it in the executive orders.

00:51:48.100 Tomorrow we're going to talk more about the first days of Trump's second term, what's got to happen on both ending the kinetic war on the Eurasian landmass, starting the deportations of 15 million illegal aliens and securing the border, and working in partnership with Central America and Mexico to make sure that it takes place.

00:52:05.300 And, of course, the third, which is to figure out this mess with the debt, the deficit, and how do you finance this government and make sure it's done fairly and equitably.

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00:52:26.860 Already, I think you're seeing a softening of President Trump because I don't think he was fully informed, thinking about having two reconciliation bills.

00:52:33.720 And let's get mass deportations, the border control, energy, all that done quickly with one simple bill, something that's simple, and then do later the big tax policy and probably do that later in the spring or early in the summer.

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00:53:03.940 Okay, we're going to be back at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning, Eastern Standard Time.

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Bannon's War Room - January 07, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 680： The New World Order

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