WarRoom Battleground EP 688： Bessent Sets The Future Straight On Energy Battles With China
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Learn English with Mike Lindell. Former White House Correspondent Steve Kamb joins me to discuss the deep state, the Deep State, and the dark side of the Deep state and how we can stop it.
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That's why my farewell address tonight, I want to warn the country of some things that give me
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great concern. This is a dangerous concern and that's a dangerous conversation of power
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in the hands of a very few ultra wealthy people. The dangerous consequences if their abuse of
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power is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth,
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power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms
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and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. We see the consequences all across America
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and we've seen it before, more than a century ago. But the American people stood up to the robber
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barons back then and busted the trusts. They didn't punish the wealthy. You created it.
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Mike Lindell joins us. It is Thursday, 16 January, Year of the Lord, 2025. This is the preamble for
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the Days of Thunder, which is going to start on the afternoon of a Monday afternoon, the 20th.
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President Trump actually has power. He hasn't had power in four years.
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Barely could execute on all his presidential power in the first term because the deep state
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the administrative state. Michael, I just want to make sure we go back and get the history right
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here. You were banned on every platform as I was banned on every platform because of things like
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election. You know, they just said the other day abandoned was one of the biggest election deniers.
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And then he, you know, said Chris Ray and Tony Fauci's heads ought to be on pike. Something that said in
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corporate and C-suites, oh, I don't know, a million times a day every day in the United States of
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America and corporate America. But that's the excuse they use because they want to silence my voice.
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They want to silence this platform. And guess what? They were wrong. They want to silence Mike
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Lindell. They want to bankrupt Mike Lindell. And they were wrong. We know exactly what happened.
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And the Democratic Party spurred them on to do it. It was in done in conjunction with the
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Democratic Party to help the Democratic Party. And Rachel Maddow, you sat there every night with that
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big, long face. You sat there every night and you chronicled what they were doing. So don't sit here
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now and say, oh, I got a cold thing coming down my spine because he's right.
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It is an oligarchy. It is. Jesus, look at this. You were there, baby. You were one of the
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architects. So don't sit there and give me the tingling spine. Mike Lindell.
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Well, Steve, you know, I look back at that and, you know, I was canceled across the country,
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every box store. And, you know, I didn't change. I was this ex-crack addict, the American dream on
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steroids that changed his life and hired all these USA employees and everything and started
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a business. And and all of a sudden I'm getting attacked because of what? Because I want secure
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elections or because I wanted to speak out. And one of the things, though, evil is greedy, everybody.
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And it backfired on them. I think I probably one of the prime examples of that on the night of the
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election this year, 2.30 in the morning over at the convention center, I had all the usual suspects
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there, ABC, NBC. I had Politico, The Washington Post. And they're all out in front of me. They're
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going, so, Mr. Lindell, do you think that this election was stolen, too, now that your friend
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Donald Trump won? I said, you know what? I'm going to trust any elections ever done with computers.
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But I said, you guys know, I'm never going to stop fighting till we get to secure elections.
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And I told them, but I want to thank each and every one of you, because as you attacked me
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every single day and other people, you helped get the word out indirectly and helped get our real,
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great, real president, Donald Trump, elected. And they did, Steve. They overplayed their hand.
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They were greedy. They attacked every day. It wasn't good enough for them to take us off every
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platform, social media platform, which you're right. I went out and made prank speech, which now,
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by the way, everybody, is Lindell TV. We just rebranded it. But what scared me, Steve, is when
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they stopped attacking me for a while, I thought, you know what? I could have all the evidence in
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the world, but if you don't have a place to get the word out, it just goes away. And that's what
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they tried to do. And our voice has gotten so much bigger. One of the most important things,
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everybody, now, that we didn't have then, is our voice has gotten bigger. And I'll say it before,
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Steve, you were probably one of the biggest parts of that. Well, you are one of the biggest parts.
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I know myself, I didn't have a voice. I came on your show back then. And I think you were probably
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the only one after February 5th of 2021 that would have me on. I was like, I was shamed everywhere.
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Like, you can't talk to me. He's a conspiracy theorist. He might say something that rhymes with the
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name of a voting machine. And that was lawfare. That's what they use, lawfare, everybody.
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They wanted to silence their voice. I get attacked right now almost more than I was back then. My
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Lindell Recovery Network getting attacked right now by Keith Ellison. Why are they doing that?
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Donald Trump's already in power. They're doing it because they want me to quit talking, period.
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Mike, one last question. By the way, where do they go to get the cross? I want to make sure. Let's get a
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Hey, Mike, before I let you in, by the way, thank the audience is what makes this show. And
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the cadre here, the War Room Posse, has done so many incredible things. It's so battle-hardened.
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And this week's been great because they've seen the fruits of their labor and what they work for
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in these magnificent cabinet secretaries coming forward and just dominating the room, full-spectrum
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dominance. Before I let you go, Mike, I just have a couple of questions. Number one, did Joe Biden
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win the 2020, the 3 November 2020 election, sir?
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You know, Dave Pacman asked me that today, David Pacman. The answer is 100% no. 15 million votes
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were taken from Donald Trump and added to Biden. 15 million. You take that off by, he was about
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66 million. That's a fact, everybody. That's a fact.
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On that, we have a difference. Hang on. On that, we have a difference of velocity. I was
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done. I say it's mail-in ballots. I'm not a machine guy because I'm not smart enough. But
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Mike has got a different front. But we both agree, however it was done, Joe Biden did not
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win the election of 2020. Am I correct in believing that you believe, sir?
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You are 100% correct, Steve. And I want to say this, too. Don't kid yourself, everybody.
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I'm not going to stop. I am not going to stop to secure our elections. Remember, everybody,
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there's a reason 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines and over 100 countries have banned
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early voting and mail-in voting, like Steve says there. So there's a reason other countries
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are going, why would it be banned if it didn't work? We want to get to perfect elections is what
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we want. Game day voting paper ballots. That's what President Trump wants. That's what we got
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to do to secure this ballot. Okay. So was Biden in the term that he basically is going to leave
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at noon on Monday? Given the fact that he did not win, was he a legitimate or an illegitimate
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president, sir? He was an illegitimate president. As you know, I never called him a president. I
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always said my real president was Donald Trump and never changed from Donald Trump. And, you know,
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I look at the last four years, everybody is a blessing. If Biden wouldn't have got in there
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as an illegitimate president, we wouldn't have had four years uncovering things and seeing where all
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the uniparty Republicans are, seeing how horrific the Democrats can be. All these things that we've
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learned, we needed that because you know what? It opened people's eyes, not only for this, for our
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country, but also for the greatest revival for Jesus Christ in history. People don't look to God
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when things are going good. It's usually when things are going bad. So there was a lot of benefits
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in the last four years that I see, Stephen. When people would ask me, you said God's given us grace
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when you talked from the White House that time. He did give us grace, everybody. These last four years
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were grace. They probably didn't feel like grace. But when we get to the great place, we're going to
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get to, you're going to look back and this last four years had to happen. So that stolen election
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had to happen, or we might've been gone forever. They were boiling us like frogs. And, uh, and now
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we're, uh, it's all, you know, uh, the words out. And, uh, remember everybody, you go back to
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December of 2019. We had a politician, Donald Trump that got in there, not a plug, a businessman
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that everything he did in spite of all the blocks manifested to the highest consumer confidence in
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history, all these great things, unemployment, everything was down. Everything was great.
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No matter where you were, if you were, no matter where you were as a person, either from no forks
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all the way to four forks, your lives improved. And people remember that Steve, but they also,
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they didn't have short memory of what happened in the last four years. When I seen you play Biden
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stuff there at the beginning of the show, I'm going, where this is just, you know, the stuff
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they're putting on this teleprompter people, we can never forget. We can never forget 2020
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and we can never forget the last four years. Okay. Given the fact that he, they stole the 2020
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election, given the fact that it has been an illegitimate regime, the solution to this is that
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we have to go back and investigate and adjudicate this in a proper form. Do you agree with that,
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sir? Absolutely. And I want everybody to know we have a, I have a 90 page report coming out with my
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election bureau. We've been working very hard on this. Remember everybody, we have the cause of
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America reaches out. I do a call every Monday, this report's going to be coming out and that's
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exactly what we're doing all across this country. States, you might not say, well, why would you have
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do anything in Oregon or Hawaii? You know what? This all ties in together. One is just as important
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as the other. We are going back in time and every single thing will be brought to the light and will
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be hopefully prosecuted. These people brought to justice. Steve, I've said it before. What we've done
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is we brought, we broke through the biggest coverup of the biggest crime in history. We have broke through
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the biggest coverup. Now let's talk about the biggest crime and get it all out there in the open.
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Get it all out in the open. Mike Lindell, thank you very much. Look forward to having you on
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tomorrow's show, sir. Go to MyPillow.com, promo code WARROOM. Get your cross and towels, everything.
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Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Yep. Thank you, War Room Posse. Thanks, Steve.
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The history here is so clear. That's what they're going to try to cloud it up now. Nope,
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Rachel. Sorry. Sorry you got a tingle up your spine. Sorry, Biden. You're illegitimate. You're
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going to get into history. You're going to go with an asterisk. You're illegitimate. You stole
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the election. You were an illegitimate president. You nurtured an oligarchy, particularly the power
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in social media because you wanted to be able to shut people down and destroy them. And guess
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what? It didn't work. We were not destroyed. In fact, we've come back collectively as the MAGA
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movement, more powerful than ever. And President Trump's going to be more powerful than ever.
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And he's got trophies going to sit in back of him on the podium. The trophies of the oligarchs
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you created and he's got to deal with. Can we play? I want to play the clip. I've got Dave Walsh
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in here because I want to get Dave on here because remember, just to step back for a second, the
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underpinnings of the turnaround, you have to have a robust economy. This is what President
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Trump did in 2017 that led to the great economy of 18 and 19. And that's why people want to be back
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in office. The fundamental point that Dave Walsh makes to get underpinning an advanced industrial
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economy is energy, full spectrum energy dominance. Let's play from the day's hearing.
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About the legislation that was written in this room, that was the biggest transformation on clean
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energy in American history. That is our package that basically said the tax code as it relates to
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energy is a broken down mess. And we basically said we're going to have a technology neutral system.
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The more you reduce carbon, the bigger your tax savings. Now there is a big effort in the Trump
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administration to reverse it. I think that's going to be bad for the economy, but it is going to
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be damn good for China because we are in an arms race on clean energy with them. Are you going to
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be on the side of people who want to unravel this? Senator, Senator Wyden, just so we can frame this
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for everyone in the room, China will build a hundred new coal plants this year. There is not a clean
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energy race. There is an energy race. China will build 10 nuclear plants this year. That is not solar.
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I am in favor of more nuclear plants. And I would note that the IRA as scored by the CBO is wildly out
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That's the Inflation Recovery Act. Dave Walsh joins us now. All Things Energy. Dave, I don't think I've
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ever heard that in the hallowed chambers of the Senate in any type of testimony.
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Scott Besson blew up a lot of Democratic heads today with truth bombs. Can you walk me through that
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one, sir? Scott's exactly right. And he was actually kind to Wyden. Permitted and under
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construction, permitted and under construction are 400 coal plants in China as we speak. A lot of folks
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on the left think they're adopting as much solar. They're not. They're adopting an energy value because
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solar runs about 25 percent of the time. They're adopting four times more coal power than solar power
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as we speak. Also, I talked a few days ago about some data across the last five years.
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They're winning the import battle here on energy equipment. That's another war going on.
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We've imported 220 billion to 240 billion in the last five years of Chinese solar panels,
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lithium batteries for storage, and inverters for solar farms and storage. So nearly 60 percent of our
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energy power generation equipment market has been taken over by them. That's a war they're winning
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because we're letting them. That's an importation war. While their own system is 62 percent devoted to
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coal power, 5 percent to nuclear, 15 percent to hydro, the wind and solar are a grand total of 13 percent of
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their own energy system, nominally small, same as here. Basically, they're electrifying like crazy to compete
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with us, outcompete us industrially and militarily. That's their goal and objective.
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Wyden doesn't get that. The Democrats don't get that. There's a horrible—and most of the Biden IRA
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actually spends $42 billion a year in incentives to the world's largest cap companies, Constellation,
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NextEra, Evergy, Duke Energy, Dominion. Foreign companies, Iberdrola, BP, Hanwha now on an electric car
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plant, battery plant, EDF, and Shell, are the big recipients of tax credits. We talk about an
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oligarchy. The biggest recipients of tax credits in the IRA are the largest cap companies in the world
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to force more—five times more costly solar and wind down the throats of U.S. consumers,
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as electricity costs have risen here the last four years by 32 percent across the country. While we've
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adopted all these renewables that are massively more costly for all the reasons we've talked about the
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last three years, the capacity factor, the time they work, is very, very limited, and you're spending a lot
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more money on them for that. So, I mean, they're winning the energy war as well because we're self-inflicting
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the wound of making ourselves buy all of their panels, lithium-ion batteries, and being incented by
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Watching Rubio, Russ Vogt, and Scott Besson over the last couple of days,
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does it strike you that we're about to make a pretty dramatic pivot back to kind of the Dave
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Walsh school of energy and away from this madness, sir?
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Oh, I believe we are. I firmly believe we are. Besson, a great job today in reacting to
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Wyden. Just an utterly senseless remark that we're importing—that we need to incent carbon savings.
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He was trying to talk about building energy, and he winds up admitting the truth. What we've been
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incenting are carbon savings. Carbon savings are not about industrializing. Industrializing is going
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to create more carbon, nominally more carbon. Having more energy is going to create a little bit more
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carbon. Actually, we've reduced carbon massively with the shift from coal-fired power to gas-fired power
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in the last 20 years. The U.S. has reduced the carbon footprint by 43 percent per megawatt generated,
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a world-leading value, by shifting from one carbon fuel to another, coal to natural gas, which has
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tremendous promise for basically solving, in a near-term basis, the entire energy deficit we have,
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which is now huge. So no, I have tremendous optimism, cause for optimism, listening to Rubio,
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Scott Besson, on their deep knowledge. And Besson, even not to do with energy or the EPA,
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deep knowledge of how energy intertwines with the GDP, with a balanced trade. He gets it. He understands it
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completely. What should we be looking for? What are the executive orders? What are you looking
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for coming out of the days of thunder number one on Monday afternoon? What executive orders, what moves
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from Trump 2.0 are you looking for to give you comfort that it's heading directionally in the right
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direction? Well, for certain, we're going to see something banning the import of critical energy
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producing components in the bulk electricity grid. That's going to come back. That should have,
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it was rescinded and revoked by Biden on day one. That's got to come back and it will come back.
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I think we're going to see some action on baseload energy being supported by this government through
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executive orders. The fact of shutting down coal plants, nuclear plants, and even gas plants that
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can produce power 24 hours a day is a disaster on a net electrification basis,
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especially when you're attempting to replace them with stuff that runs solar 25% of the time,
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wind maybe 32% of the time. You wind up with a massive deficit that we're now in as electrification
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growth needs to be 3% to 5% to keep up with demand for power. Here in the last five years,
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we've grown electrification by only 0.6% per year. We're in a huge hole on necessary electrification to
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participate in both the new economy. So I think we're going to see executive orders pushing us
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in a direction of nothing but baseload power. By the way, the new governor of West Virginia is all
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about Morrissey for his state. We can only build the power plants that run all of the time or a majority
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of the time in West Virginia. He's a leader on this. I hope he's involved with helping shape federal policies,
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because I think the incentives will also be under attack and wanting neutrality. Here,
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Wyden mentioned neutrality. You got fuel neutrality if you don't incentivize anything. Wind, solar,
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battery storage should not be incented. Period. Hard stop. Nothing needs incented. 42 billion a year is
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way too much money spent on actually negative energy value equipment. I think we're going to see some high
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pressure on that through executive order also. The beginning to pull back, desire to pull back on
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incenting and therefore hiding the true cost of these massively expensive energy sources.
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Even Carter in his formation of the DOE was all about efficiency. You only promote efficiency when
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the naked cost of energy is visible to consumers. When you hide it through incentives, this stuff is
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five to six times more costly, solar and wind, you're not promoting efficient use of energy. So I think
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we're going to see some pressure on that as well.
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And you believe that the radical new direction in energy policy will be the foundational element
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of President Trump's economic revival of the United States?
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It has to be. If it's not, we're going to have a weak economic revival. We've got to be all over
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disincenting part-time energy sources, not just wind, but also solar, which is a capacity factor thing of
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about 24 percent, therefore costs five to six times more than natural gas combined cycle than coal-fired
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power. We've got to get back on track with also disincenting that and getting the EPA out of making
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draconian rulings, which they made another one even after the SCOTUS ruling on the Clean Power Plan
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was stricken. The EPA has come back now with wanting to shut down gas and coal plants by 2035.
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So that's got to be turned around. I think it will be turned around by the new Trump EPA, clearly.
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We've got to have the gas plants running. We've got to have the coal plants running,
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because they run all the time. We need electrification that runs all of the time.
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You saw Lee Zeldin today, just magnificent over the EPA audience. I'll be very proud of the work
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you did, because the team that you're putting on the field is very impressive. Dave Walsh.
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I think one day before too long, you may be part of that team. Big announcements,
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I think, coming on Dave Walsh. Dave, where do people go on your social media?
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Well, find me on True Social, Getter and X at Dave Walsh Energy. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate the forum.
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Thank you. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Appreciate you coming on and staying up with us.
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New York Times is breaking about Zuckerberg. This is about meeting with President Trump and
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Zuckerberg, getting ready to sign the surrender document. It said, Zuckerberg signaled to Mr.
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Miller and his colleagues, including other senior Trump advisors, that he, Zuckerberg,
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would do nothing to obstruct the Trump agenda, according to three people with knowledge of
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this meeting, who asked for anonymity to discuss a private conversation. Mr. Zuckerberg said he would
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instead focus solely on building tech products. Let me repeat this. That Zuckerberg signaled to Mr.
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Miller and his colleagues, including other senior Trump advisors, that, wait for it,
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wait for it, he would do nothing to obstruct the Trump agenda.
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He would solely focus his business on building tech products. That's a full surrender.
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You should look at that podium on Monday like the deck of the battleship Missouri in Tokyo Harbor in
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September of 1945. They're there essentially to sign a surrender document. Look, I realize we've got
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You're certainly not going to obstruct it since you've surrendered. Mark Zuckerberg sees a broken
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I want to ask you about Speaker Johnson because he fired Republican Mike Turner, who's the chair of
00:31:00.700
the House Intel Committee, and he cited concerns from Mar-a-Lago. It is important for our audience
00:31:06.460
to know if they're not familiar with him. Johnson is one of the staunchest advocates in support of Ukraine.
00:31:13.100
And now he's out. What does that tell you? Turner, excuse me.
00:31:17.340
Right. Right. Well, yes. So Mike Turner said that when Mike, Mike Johnson, the speaker,
00:31:22.780
kicked him out as the chair of the Intelligence Committee, that he cited essentially that this
00:31:29.900
was Trump's orders or the Mar-a-Lago's orders. You know, Mike Turner is a traditional Republican.
00:31:35.900
He's a national security guy. He's really big on Ukraine aid. He supports the intelligence agencies.
00:31:41.980
He supports the FISA collection of of records from terrorists abroad that some that some oppose
00:31:51.900
from the sort of the right in the House. And so he's out of step with the MAGA wing of the party.
00:31:59.020
And so this is another victory for Donald Trump and the MAGA wing. And it showed we're going to
00:32:03.820
probably find out tomorrow who Mike Johnson is going to replace Mike Turner with. But if it is somebody
00:32:10.140
more from that America first wing of the party, you can see exactly what they're trying to do with
00:32:14.940
the Intelligence Committee. Mr. Speaker, do you have any comment on why did you remove
00:32:20.220
Mike Turner as Intel chief? It's a new Congress. We're just fresh horses in some of these places.
00:32:27.420
But I'm a Mike Turner fan. He's done a great job. He performed valiantly in a difficult time under
00:32:34.940
difficult circumstances. So I have nothing but positive things to say about my friend.
00:32:38.460
Did Trump have any opinion on that? This is not a President Trump decision. This is a House
00:32:46.700
decision. And this is no slight whatsoever to our outgoing chairman. He did a great job.
00:32:54.940
But we just the intelligence community and everything related to HIPC is it needs a fresh
00:33:01.980
start. And that's what this is about. Nothing else. So I have nothing negative to say about Mike Turner at
00:33:06.220
all. He's a good man, a good colleague. I respect his work. He's going to continue to be my appointee
00:33:13.500
with everything regarding the NATO. And they're hosting a big summit, so to speak, of the NATO in
00:33:21.500
his district in Dayton coming up. And he will continue to be the face and the voice for us in Congress
00:33:28.700
to our NATO allies about paying their dues and doing what they need to do. And he's very effective at that.
00:33:33.180
So busy every second of today, I'm going to get the full read up. Thank you.
00:33:49.100
Okay, fresh horses. That's an interesting way to say it. I don't think any individual has worked
00:33:57.020
harder on this on the removal of Mike Turner as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee
00:34:05.500
than Brian Costello. Brian, you've had two in your gun sights, this and Sequoia Capital.
00:34:12.060
Neil Shen. Get to that later. Talk to me about why is it logical for Turner not to make the traveling
00:34:20.300
squad with Tulsi Gabbard, Ratcliffe, President Trump, and what he's trying to do to reorganize
00:34:25.740
Kash Patel to reorganize the intelligence services, sir?
00:34:31.020
Listen, Steve, I think we saw how important this committee is, right? The House Intelligence
00:34:35.580
Committee was the one place when Trump was in president last time and had the IC weaponized
00:34:41.500
against him, was the one place under Nunes with Kash, Colonel Harvey, Colonel Pappas, Rich Higgins,
00:34:47.740
that stood up and actually brought to the American public what was going on there, right? So I think
00:34:54.060
it's an extremely important committee. And as he goes into RD&I, Ratcliffe into CIA, Hegseth into the
00:35:02.140
military, and I think it's extremely important that Trump has an ally there who works with those agencies
00:35:09.740
for the appropriate oversight, runs cover for the things that's happened in the past and the
00:35:13.420
investigations. And Turner showed clearly he was not that guy. From day one, he walked the Russia
00:35:19.660
hoax investigation team. For American heroes, like, I don't believe the country would be where it is
00:35:25.660
today without Nunes and his team. You know, he walked them, perp walked them out the door like they
00:35:31.980
were criminals. He started, you know, supporting Ukraine. He wanted no reforms on FISA. You know,
00:35:39.100
people don't know this, but the first Mayorkas impeachment, the first time they went to move
00:35:43.660
forward with the Mayorkas impeachment, he voted against it. He flip-flopped the second time.
00:35:48.380
You know, and here's a guy who's being briefed with all the national security threats that are
00:35:52.540
coming into the country at a level no one else is, and he's still supporting the administration.
00:35:57.420
So it's nice to see Speaker Johnson make a move on this. It's a shame it had to come from
00:36:02.620
Mar-a-Lago and that he didn't do it directly himself. Um, but, but it puts, puts the country
00:36:08.380
in a much better position now with Rick Crawford taking the helm there.
00:36:14.380
Okay. Well, you look at the, um, the training ground of what the House Intelligence Committee was
00:36:21.500
when we won the, um, White House in 16, uh, Pompeo, I think was chairman or going to be sure. He went to
00:36:28.060
CIA right away. Obviously that did not work out, but Nunez took over. Nunez had his chief
00:36:35.260
investigator was, um, was Colonel Derek Harvey, who you're very familiar with us on the show,
00:36:40.700
uh, audience. Cash Patel was the general counsel. He had, you know, it's Sergeant. He had Rich Higgins,
00:36:47.660
who eventually came over and laid out in a memo of the entire deep state and how they were trying
00:36:51.580
to take down President Trump. And he had Pappas. He had the four best. When Turner took over,
00:36:56.620
he essentially perp walked out the staff that Nunez had left there that were on top of things.
00:37:02.460
The only reason that the, that, that shifty shift in these guys, Ryan, as Speaker of the House,
00:37:09.740
made Nunez recuse himself because Nunez had come over to the White House one time,
00:37:15.020
one time he made him recuse himself. This was, this was Paul Ryan because he wanted Trump nailed,
00:37:21.580
right? He had Trey Gowdy then step into the breach and Trey Gowdy just stood down,
00:37:27.660
had Cash and all those guys stand down. They turned the committee over to shifty shift in Swalwell.
00:37:34.780
And I got, I don't know, 30 hours of testimony in front of those guys in a skiff in a, in a star
00:37:39.500
chamber with Don McGahn and Reince Priebus and many others. Okay. Trying to nail President Trump,
00:37:45.900
trying to nail President Trump, 100% trying to nail President Trump. That's what went on here.
00:37:53.900
And Turner took that team, that battle hardened team that was in place and got rid of them. Why
00:37:59.580
did he get rid of them? He agrees with the Democrats. He had to go. And I think this is heroic.
00:38:06.540
I don't know who convinced Speaker Johnson was President Trump or others around this kind of new
00:38:13.020
reformulated intelligence community you've got with Tulsi Gabbard's going to come on board.
00:38:18.300
You've got Radcliffe, you have others advising the president, but it's a new day. Is it not Brian
00:38:25.620
Costello? Yeah. If you look at Turner, it's, it's one, it's amazing that McCarthy put him in there in
00:38:32.220
the first place, right? His Liberty score ratings of 40%. He votes with 42, 43%. He votes with Democrats
00:38:40.380
more of the time. This is one of the more powerful positions. And we had the gavel with the house,
00:38:45.020
right? So, and we know the intelligence community had, uh, you know, abused things trying to change
00:38:51.420
the election back in 2016, trying to remove Trump when he was in office. And here you have the gavel.
00:38:57.180
It's one of the more powerful positions. And you've got a guy, you know, with one of the,
00:39:01.260
one of, if not the lowest Liberty score ratings, uh, in there, you know, who takes the staff that's
00:39:07.420
highly valuable, that had a lot of experience working with Durham and everybody else and removes
00:39:12.460
them, shuts down a China investigation. Who's looking at how the business community is using
00:39:17.740
China to influence Washington and the intelligence community is doing nothing about it. You know,
00:39:23.100
where, you know, the president and his son fall into the, into that realm, shuts down that
00:39:28.540
investigation. And, you know, every single thing he did, I mean, Hakeem Jeffries is out with a note
00:39:34.220
today, upset that he's leaving. Adam Schiff's just on MSNBC, praising the guy, saying it's a huge
00:39:40.700
mistake, letting them go. You talk, you couldn't, you couldn't, you couldn't have a better, uh,
00:39:45.500
commercial that writes itself for why he should be removed.
00:39:48.700
Yeah. No. Yeah. Uh, before I let you go, uh, tick tock Sequoia capital, Neil Shen,
00:39:55.820
uh, latest on your investigation of that. Do you think that's going to get any traction?
00:40:00.700
You know, we'll see the tick tock CEOs purportedly at the, uh, inauguration. So it's supposed to be
00:40:06.380
shut down over the weekend. You know, I know that, um, you know, we're all capitalists. We'd like to see
00:40:12.540
people make money off it and we'd like to see it in hands and the businesses that still run off it. I know
00:40:17.100
Trump's focused on that, but this is a, this is a dangerous tool. Senator Cotton came out ripping
00:40:22.860
today. The Democrats trying to delay the shutdown. Uh, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see what happens.
00:40:28.700
We'll see, uh, you know, who has the courage to, to confront this. If Shen gets removed from the
00:40:34.140
board of directors, you know, we, we still have a problem in that we have a lot of capitalists who
00:40:39.740
don't see the economic warfare and it's not a competition that's happening with China.
00:40:43.740
And we need to make sure in the new administration, we confront that and we win on every single front.
00:40:51.500
Were you impressed? We saw the aggressive nature of, um, Marco Rubio as secretary of state in his
00:41:01.340
I was Steve, you know, uh, people I've never told this story before, but one of the first
00:41:05.260
Senate offices I went to on the Sequoia side was Marco Rubio's and his former press secretary was
00:41:11.260
very, very helpful in terms of, you know, putting some stuff around Congress and everything else,
00:41:16.540
which eventually, you know, the national security council did for Sequoia to separate from its China
00:41:20.860
arms. So I think he understands the threat very, very well. I thought he was terrific. I thought
00:41:25.820
Scott Besant laying out the energy, I think Hegseth bringing technology into the military. It looks,
00:41:31.740
looks very promising here. So we still got some work to do, but you know,
00:41:35.580
one question I do have though, is, you know, is Turner's given that Turner's out, you know, he, uh,
00:41:43.020
Lee Smith did a nice piece in tab of magazine talking about how he's boasting about how he's,
00:41:47.980
this was just a week ago. He was boasting about how he was taking over Trump's intelligence community,
00:41:52.380
you know, and his chief of staff, Adam Howard. And I hope Mike Waltz, you know, who's made some
00:41:57.420
good announcements there is going over, uh, Turner's chief of staff, Adam Howard is going over
00:42:03.180
supposedly to run Intel oversight and advise the president on the national security council.
00:42:12.300
Um, where do people get you amazing information? And by the way, congratulations on
00:42:18.540
Turner being the former head of HIPSI. Uh, where do people go to get to your social media?
00:42:24.620
Yeah, Steve, fortunately there was a lot of, a lot of, a lot of content. Even when you went on your
00:42:28.780
sabbatical, we were, we were, we were, we were still on it. So the doofus from Dayton can now have
00:42:33.900
the NATO summits in Dayton, uh, which is, which is ironic. That's where he's, he's focused now, but,
00:42:49.020
Turner, big, big move today. Really want to thank Colonel Derek Harvey and Turner for being on this one.
00:42:55.340
Like a dog on a bone for about the last year and a half, just relentless. And Turner had to go.
00:43:00.780
It was a, uh, a great, fantastic move. The House Intelligence Committee, very, very powerful,
00:43:06.460
one of the most powerful committees in the, uh, in the entire house. Uh, I'm gonna get to pardons
00:43:11.020
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00:43:30.940
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00:43:45.420
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on what just happened over, I think, on MSNBC about, uh, blanket preempt, blanket preemptive
00:44:25.020
pardons. Let's take a listen. And it's still the president. Merrick Garland is still the attorney
00:44:29.420
general. It's Thursday and they've got till noon on Monday. What can be done to protect the rule of
00:44:35.260
law in those three days? Well, Joe Biden and nobody really agrees with this, but I'm going to say it
00:44:41.900
anyway. Joe Biden still has the power to pardon people. And we've heard from Pam Bondi now. We
00:44:47.340
heard from her saying in that there's a lot she didn't say. There's a lot she refused to say,
00:44:52.140
right? Things like refusing to even commit to preserve records. I mean, these are not gotcha
00:44:56.620
questions. These were very, these were softball questions. Um, but there was a lot she said. She
00:45:01.740
said DOJ is weaponized. She said the special prosecutors are abused. She said Trump has been targeted since
00:45:08.700
2016. And then she didn't recant or back away at all from that comment of prosecutors,
00:45:15.100
the bad ones being prosecuted and investigate the investigators. So you have somebody who's coming
00:45:19.980
into DOJ and, you know, far from being somebody to say, I'm going to lead you and have your back.
00:45:25.980
You've got a target on your back. So, you know, with somebody coming in like that, yeah,
00:45:32.140
if that doesn't justify a pardon from the president in the few days we have to say, hey, we, we know
00:45:38.460
you're going to go after and have some vindictive prosecution against people like Jack Smith,
00:45:43.420
like Merrick Garland, like Liz Cheney, who did nothing wrong. And we know you're going to do it.
00:45:48.380
Now, look, maybe they don't want one and that's fine, but we know what's coming. She was very clear
00:45:54.300
about it for anybody that watched it. So if you know that that's wrong, why not use the tools that
00:46:00.140
you have available to you? Why not use that pardon power? And I hear people say, well, you know,
00:46:04.460
that's against the norms, but, but there are no norms. They're going to shatter the whole thing.
00:46:13.100
Okay. You see it right there. Think about that for a second. All the, all the crimes they've committed
00:46:19.420
in these, in these apparatuses and they know it. They know it right there. They say, hey,
00:46:26.460
Pam Bondi. And remember, half of Pam's confirmation hearing was really about cash Patel and government
00:46:33.820
gangsters and cash put together the list of who was in the deep state. They're in meltdown.
00:46:37.740
They're going to be coming for cash. And, you know, you have the flood, the zone strategy,
00:46:42.620
and then you have kind of the Alinsky where they can kind of come from the herd cash. They're
00:46:47.820
going to hold cash back until, you know, they haven't, they've gotten all the major
00:46:53.580
confirmation done. Then they're going to let him go. They're going to say, well,
00:46:55.980
he's not really cabinet level, although the one they fear is FBI. So it makes no sense logically,
00:47:02.940
but this is what they're going to do to try to destroy cash. Don't, we're not home by a long
00:47:07.420
stretch. First of all, we don't have any confirmation vote. We don't have any committee vote.
00:47:10.860
Remember the process. Got to be the, um, the committee in charge, right? The convening committee,
00:47:17.020
the committee of kind of record, which they, uh, they, they report to because it's the balance,
00:47:22.620
the separation of powers that has to vote first. So cash, um, you know, and cash goes to judiciary
00:47:32.220
because the FBI is considered part of the, or it is part of the justice department, but right there,
00:47:38.140
you're in full meltdown. Oh, you got to give pardons. Look what she said. I thought what she said
00:47:44.540
was pretty straightforward. I'll follow the law and I don't come up with any pre, uh,
00:47:49.660
disposed, uh, opinions. I'm gonna look at this with a fresh set of eyes and look at facts and
00:47:55.820
look at evidence. I thought she was, I thought she was very extremely even handed. She's certainly
00:48:00.060
no Matt Gates. Matt Gates would come and breathe in fire. And Pam may be even as, as effective or
00:48:08.860
maybe even more effective. She's got kind of a way about her, the way she lays things out.
00:48:14.540
Comes across as very open, a kind of an open book, very straightforward, not cunning, nothing to hide.
00:48:22.300
But I'll raise her testimony. Go back. Don't take it from me. Think about when you were watching it
00:48:27.740
or go pull some clips tonight off YouTube and just watch it with your own eyes.
00:48:31.100
And that's caused them to, and go and do the clips. Maybe I'll get Grace to put some up.
00:48:39.420
But when Pam was talking about this, because they hammered her over and over and over again
00:48:44.460
about the 2020 election and about this, that's why I say half of the confirmation here was about,
00:48:49.420
really about Kash Patel. You watch it with your own eyes. See what you think.
00:48:57.340
Would it cause you to have complete and total meltdown? What's caused them to have total and
00:49:02.700
complete meltdown? And then you gotta ask why. And now they're sitting there going, hey, it's,
00:49:07.660
you know, you got a couple of days, you got Friday, Saturday, Sunday, until noon on Monday.
00:49:13.180
They need pardons. Cheney, Liz Cheney needs a pardon. Benny Thompson needs a pardon.
00:49:19.580
Jack Smith needs a pardon. The career prosecutors need a pardon. They need pardons. They get,
00:49:26.140
they're fearful. They feel like they got targets on their back.
00:49:30.220
Didn't do anything wrong. Should you should sleep well at night? I don't know. If you're
00:49:36.300
part of the weaponization of government, you're probably going to toss and turn. And you should
00:49:42.460
toss and turn. I think Pam's going to be pretty relentless. And I strongly recommend what Fenton said
00:49:50.060
the other day, a special prosecutor, a special counsel, whatever they call today, has to be designated.
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I think it ought to report to the White House. We have to show them on this theory of the constant,
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Christy Noem will go tomorrow. Maybe we'll jump in and start with her tomorrow on the fourth day.
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