Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 688： Bessent Sets The Future Straight On Energy Battles With China

00:00:00.000 That's why my farewell address tonight, I want to warn the country of some things that give me

00:00:07.140 great concern. This is a dangerous concern and that's a dangerous conversation of power

00:00:13.160 in the hands of a very few ultra wealthy people. The dangerous consequences if their abuse of

00:00:20.620 power is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth,

00:00:27.840 power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms

00:00:34.000 and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. We see the consequences all across America

00:00:41.340 and we've seen it before, more than a century ago. But the American people stood up to the robber

00:00:49.440 barons back then and busted the trusts. They didn't punish the wealthy. You created it.

00:00:55.600 Mike Lindell joins us. It is Thursday, 16 January, Year of the Lord, 2025. This is the preamble for

00:01:04.300 the Days of Thunder, which is going to start on the afternoon of a Monday afternoon, the 20th.

00:01:10.740 President Trump actually has power. He hasn't had power in four years.

00:01:15.640 Barely could execute on all his presidential power in the first term because the deep state

00:01:21.280 the administrative state. Michael, I just want to make sure we go back and get the history right

00:01:25.360 here. You were banned on every platform as I was banned on every platform because of things like

00:01:31.160 election. You know, they just said the other day abandoned was one of the biggest election deniers.

00:01:34.940 And then he, you know, said Chris Ray and Tony Fauci's heads ought to be on pike. Something that said in

00:01:40.980 corporate and C-suites, oh, I don't know, a million times a day every day in the United States of

00:01:45.920 America and corporate America. But that's the excuse they use because they want to silence my voice.

00:01:50.940 They want to silence this platform. And guess what? They were wrong. They want to silence Mike

00:01:56.020 Lindell. They want to bankrupt Mike Lindell. And they were wrong. We know exactly what happened.

00:02:00.820 And the Democratic Party spurred them on to do it. It was in done in conjunction with the

00:02:04.740 Democratic Party to help the Democratic Party. And Rachel Maddow, you sat there every night with that 1.00

00:02:10.280 big, long face. You sat there every night and you chronicled what they were doing. So don't sit here

00:02:16.480 now and say, oh, I got a cold thing coming down my spine because he's right.

00:02:20.940 It is an oligarchy. It is. Jesus, look at this. You were there, baby. You were one of the

00:02:26.540 architects. So don't sit there and give me the tingling spine. Mike Lindell.

00:02:33.860 Well, Steve, you know, I look back at that and, you know, I was canceled across the country,

00:02:38.300 every box store. And, you know, I didn't change. I was this ex-crack addict, the American dream on

00:02:44.020 steroids that changed his life and hired all these USA employees and everything and started

00:02:49.880 a business. And and all of a sudden I'm getting attacked because of what? Because I want secure

00:02:55.140 elections or because I wanted to speak out. And one of the things, though, evil is greedy, everybody.

00:03:01.260 And it backfired on them. I think I probably one of the prime examples of that on the night of the

00:03:06.400 election this year, 2.30 in the morning over at the convention center, I had all the usual suspects

00:03:14.440 there, ABC, NBC. I had Politico, The Washington Post. And they're all out in front of me. They're

00:03:21.200 going, so, Mr. Lindell, do you think that this election was stolen, too, now that your friend

00:03:26.120 Donald Trump won? I said, you know what? I'm going to trust any elections ever done with computers.

00:03:30.980 But I said, you guys know, I'm never going to stop fighting till we get to secure elections.

00:03:36.140 And I told them, but I want to thank each and every one of you, because as you attacked me

00:03:40.920 every single day and other people, you helped get the word out indirectly and helped get our real,

00:03:47.900 great, real president, Donald Trump, elected. And they did, Steve. They overplayed their hand.

00:03:53.080 They were greedy. They attacked every day. It wasn't good enough for them to take us off every

00:03:57.800 platform, social media platform, which you're right. I went out and made prank speech, which now,

00:04:02.380 by the way, everybody, is Lindell TV. We just rebranded it. But what scared me, Steve, is when

00:04:07.680 they stopped attacking me for a while, I thought, you know what? I could have all the evidence in

00:04:12.660 the world, but if you don't have a place to get the word out, it just goes away. And that's what

00:04:18.160 they tried to do. And our voice has gotten so much bigger. One of the most important things,

00:04:24.140 everybody, now, that we didn't have then, is our voice has gotten bigger. And I'll say it before,

00:04:28.660 Steve, you were probably one of the biggest parts of that. Well, you are one of the biggest parts.

00:04:33.260 I know myself, I didn't have a voice. I came on your show back then. And I think you were probably

00:04:40.620 the only one after February 5th of 2021 that would have me on. I was like, I was shamed everywhere.

00:04:46.960 Like, you can't talk to me. He's a conspiracy theorist. He might say something that rhymes with the

00:04:51.260 name of a voting machine. And that was lawfare. That's what they use, lawfare, everybody.

00:04:57.780 They wanted to silence their voice. I get attacked right now almost more than I was back then. My

00:05:03.280 Lindell Recovery Network getting attacked right now by Keith Ellison. Why are they doing that?

00:05:07.860 Donald Trump's already in power. They're doing it because they want me to quit talking, period.

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00:06:42.960 Hey, Mike, before I let you in, by the way, thank the audience is what makes this show. And

00:06:47.060 the cadre here, the War Room Posse, has done so many incredible things. It's so battle-hardened.

00:06:52.340 And this week's been great because they've seen the fruits of their labor and what they work for

00:06:58.260 in these magnificent cabinet secretaries coming forward and just dominating the room, full-spectrum 0.97

00:07:02.400 dominance. Before I let you go, Mike, I just have a couple of questions. Number one, did Joe Biden

00:07:09.460 win the 2020, the 3 November 2020 election, sir?

00:07:14.100 You know, Dave Pacman asked me that today, David Pacman. The answer is 100% no. 15 million votes

00:07:23.220 were taken from Donald Trump and added to Biden. 15 million. You take that off by, he was about

00:07:30.040 66 million. That's a fact, everybody. That's a fact.

00:07:33.560 On that, we have a difference. Hang on. On that, we have a difference of velocity. I was

00:07:36.320 done. I say it's mail-in ballots. I'm not a machine guy because I'm not smart enough. But

00:07:40.220 Mike has got a different front. But we both agree, however it was done, Joe Biden did not

00:07:45.560 win the election of 2020. Am I correct in believing that you believe, sir?

00:07:49.840 You are 100% correct, Steve. And I want to say this, too. Don't kid yourself, everybody.

00:07:55.240 I'm not going to stop. I am not going to stop to secure our elections. Remember, everybody,

00:07:59.980 there's a reason 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines and over 100 countries have banned

00:08:07.960 early voting and mail-in voting, like Steve says there. So there's a reason other countries

00:08:12.880 are going, why would it be banned if it didn't work? We want to get to perfect elections is what

00:08:17.800 we want. Game day voting paper ballots. That's what President Trump wants. That's what we got

00:08:23.140 to do to secure this ballot. Okay. So was Biden in the term that he basically is going to leave

00:08:29.260 at noon on Monday? Given the fact that he did not win, was he a legitimate or an illegitimate

00:08:37.060 president, sir? He was an illegitimate president. As you know, I never called him a president. I

00:08:43.360 always said my real president was Donald Trump and never changed from Donald Trump. And, you know,

00:08:48.860 I look at the last four years, everybody is a blessing. If Biden wouldn't have got in there

00:08:54.160 as an illegitimate president, we wouldn't have had four years uncovering things and seeing where all

00:08:59.220 the uniparty Republicans are, seeing how horrific the Democrats can be. All these things that we've

00:09:05.020 learned, we needed that because you know what? It opened people's eyes, not only for this, for our

00:09:11.240 country, but also for the greatest revival for Jesus Christ in history. People don't look to God

00:09:16.940 when things are going good. It's usually when things are going bad. So there was a lot of benefits

00:09:22.160 in the last four years that I see, Stephen. When people would ask me, you said God's given us grace

00:09:28.880 when you talked from the White House that time. He did give us grace, everybody. These last four years

00:09:33.580 were grace. They probably didn't feel like grace. But when we get to the great place, we're going to

00:09:37.780 get to, you're going to look back and this last four years had to happen. So that stolen election

00:09:43.160 had to happen, or we might've been gone forever. They were boiling us like frogs. And, uh, and now

00:09:48.980 we're, uh, it's all, you know, uh, the words out. And, uh, remember everybody, you go back to

00:09:54.400 December of 2019. We had a politician, Donald Trump that got in there, not a plug, a businessman

00:10:01.160 that everything he did in spite of all the blocks manifested to the highest consumer confidence in

00:10:07.600 history, all these great things, unemployment, everything was down. Everything was great.

00:10:12.280 No matter where you were, if you were, no matter where you were as a person, either from no forks

00:10:16.640 all the way to four forks, your lives improved. And people remember that Steve, but they also,

00:10:21.200 they didn't have short memory of what happened in the last four years. When I seen you play Biden

00:10:25.600 stuff there at the beginning of the show, I'm going, where this is just, you know, the stuff

00:10:29.980 they're putting on this teleprompter people, we can never forget. We can never forget 2020

00:10:35.120 and we can never forget the last four years. Okay. Given the fact that he, they stole the 2020

00:10:41.400 election, given the fact that it has been an illegitimate regime, the solution to this is that

00:10:47.720 we have to go back and investigate and adjudicate this in a proper form. Do you agree with that,

00:10:53.320 sir? Absolutely. And I want everybody to know we have a, I have a 90 page report coming out with my

00:10:59.400 election bureau. We've been working very hard on this. Remember everybody, we have the cause of

00:11:03.800 America reaches out. I do a call every Monday, this report's going to be coming out and that's

00:11:08.880 exactly what we're doing all across this country. States, you might not say, well, why would you have

00:11:14.280 do anything in Oregon or Hawaii? You know what? This all ties in together. One is just as important

00:11:20.340 as the other. We are going back in time and every single thing will be brought to the light and will

00:11:26.780 be hopefully prosecuted. These people brought to justice. Steve, I've said it before. What we've done

00:11:35.560 is we brought, we broke through the biggest coverup of the biggest crime in history. We have broke through

00:11:41.860 the biggest coverup. Now let's talk about the biggest crime and get it all out there in the open.

00:11:47.980 Get it all out in the open. Mike Lindell, thank you very much. Look forward to having you on

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00:11:59.740 Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Yep. Thank you, War Room Posse. Thanks, Steve.

00:12:05.040 The history here is so clear. That's what they're going to try to cloud it up now. Nope,

00:12:09.040 Rachel. Sorry. Sorry you got a tingle up your spine. Sorry, Biden. You're illegitimate. You're

00:12:15.800 going to get into history. You're going to go with an asterisk. You're illegitimate. You stole

00:12:20.360 the election. You were an illegitimate president. You nurtured an oligarchy, particularly the power

00:12:26.140 in social media because you wanted to be able to shut people down and destroy them. And guess

00:12:30.540 what? It didn't work. We were not destroyed. In fact, we've come back collectively as the MAGA

00:12:36.300 movement, more powerful than ever. And President Trump's going to be more powerful than ever.

00:12:42.120 And he's got trophies going to sit in back of him on the podium. The trophies of the oligarchs

00:12:48.800 you created and he's got to deal with. Can we play? I want to play the clip. I've got Dave Walsh

00:12:55.920 in here because I want to get Dave on here because remember, just to step back for a second, the

00:12:59.860 underpinnings of the turnaround, you have to have a robust economy. This is what President

00:13:04.280 Trump did in 2017 that led to the great economy of 18 and 19. And that's why people want to be back

00:13:09.600 in office. The fundamental point that Dave Walsh makes to get underpinning an advanced industrial

00:13:17.680 economy is energy, full spectrum energy dominance. Let's play from the day's hearing.

00:13:25.000 About the legislation that was written in this room, that was the biggest transformation on clean

00:13:31.240 energy in American history. That is our package that basically said the tax code as it relates to

00:13:37.640 energy is a broken down mess. And we basically said we're going to have a technology neutral system.

00:13:44.100 The more you reduce carbon, the bigger your tax savings. Now there is a big effort in the Trump

00:13:49.760 administration to reverse it. I think that's going to be bad for the economy, but it is going to

00:13:54.880 be damn good for China because we are in an arms race on clean energy with them. Are you going to 1.00

00:13:59.960 be on the side of people who want to unravel this? Senator, Senator Wyden, just so we can frame this

00:14:09.480 for everyone in the room, China will build a hundred new coal plants this year. There is not a clean

00:14:16.880 energy race. There is an energy race. China will build 10 nuclear plants this year. That is not solar.

00:14:24.960 I am in favor of more nuclear plants. And I would note that the IRA as scored by the CBO is wildly out

00:14:37.880 of control in terms of spending on the upside.

00:14:42.480 That's the Inflation Recovery Act. Dave Walsh joins us now. All Things Energy. Dave, I don't think I've

00:14:49.160 ever heard that in the hallowed chambers of the Senate in any type of testimony.

00:14:57.960 Scott Besson blew up a lot of Democratic heads today with truth bombs. Can you walk me through that

00:15:03.720 one, sir? Scott's exactly right. And he was actually kind to Wyden. Permitted and under

00:15:11.920 construction, permitted and under construction are 400 coal plants in China as we speak. A lot of folks

00:15:19.820 on the left think they're adopting as much solar. They're not. They're adopting an energy value because

00:15:25.020 solar runs about 25 percent of the time. They're adopting four times more coal power than solar power

00:15:31.780 as we speak. Also, I talked a few days ago about some data across the last five years.

00:15:37.800 They're winning the import battle here on energy equipment. That's another war going on.

00:15:44.420 We've imported 220 billion to 240 billion in the last five years of Chinese solar panels,

00:15:51.000 lithium batteries for storage, and inverters for solar farms and storage. So nearly 60 percent of our

00:15:58.920 energy power generation equipment market has been taken over by them. That's a war they're winning 0.99

00:16:04.040 because we're letting them. That's an importation war. While their own system is 62 percent devoted to

00:16:10.480 coal power, 5 percent to nuclear, 15 percent to hydro, the wind and solar are a grand total of 13 percent of

00:16:16.600 their own energy system, nominally small, same as here. Basically, they're electrifying like crazy to compete

00:16:24.540 with us, outcompete us industrially and militarily. That's their goal and objective.

00:16:30.060 Wyden doesn't get that. The Democrats don't get that. There's a horrible—and most of the Biden IRA

00:16:35.280 actually spends $42 billion a year in incentives to the world's largest cap companies, Constellation,

00:16:41.160 NextEra, Evergy, Duke Energy, Dominion. Foreign companies, Iberdrola, BP, Hanwha now on an electric car

00:16:48.100 plant, battery plant, EDF, and Shell, are the big recipients of tax credits. We talk about an

00:16:54.320 oligarchy. The biggest recipients of tax credits in the IRA are the largest cap companies in the world 0.90

00:17:00.320 to force more—five times more costly solar and wind down the throats of U.S. consumers,

00:17:06.440 as electricity costs have risen here the last four years by 32 percent across the country. While we've

00:17:12.100 adopted all these renewables that are massively more costly for all the reasons we've talked about the

00:17:16.940 last three years, the capacity factor, the time they work, is very, very limited, and you're spending a lot

00:17:23.000 more money on them for that. So, I mean, they're winning the energy war as well because we're self-inflicting

00:17:29.540 the wound of making ourselves buy all of their panels, lithium-ion batteries, and being incented by

00:17:35.880 the government, our own government, to do it.

00:17:41.940 Watching Rubio, Russ Vogt, and Scott Besson over the last couple of days,

00:17:46.940 does it strike you that we're about to make a pretty dramatic pivot back to kind of the Dave

00:17:52.740 Walsh school of energy and away from this madness, sir?

00:17:58.400 Oh, I believe we are. I firmly believe we are. Besson, a great job today in reacting to

00:18:03.380 Wyden. Just an utterly senseless remark that we're importing—that we need to incent carbon savings.

00:18:11.880 He was trying to talk about building energy, and he winds up admitting the truth. What we've been

00:18:17.340 incenting are carbon savings. Carbon savings are not about industrializing. Industrializing is going

00:18:24.160 to create more carbon, nominally more carbon. Having more energy is going to create a little bit more

00:18:28.940 carbon. Actually, we've reduced carbon massively with the shift from coal-fired power to gas-fired power

00:18:34.780 in the last 20 years. The U.S. has reduced the carbon footprint by 43 percent per megawatt generated,

00:18:41.020 a world-leading value, by shifting from one carbon fuel to another, coal to natural gas, which has

00:18:47.980 tremendous promise for basically solving, in a near-term basis, the entire energy deficit we have,

00:18:53.900 which is now huge. So no, I have tremendous optimism, cause for optimism, listening to Rubio,

00:19:01.900 Scott Besson, on their deep knowledge. And Besson, even not to do with energy or the EPA,

00:19:10.220 deep knowledge of how energy intertwines with the GDP, with a balanced trade. He gets it. He understands it

00:19:16.460 completely. What should we be looking for? What are the executive orders? What are you looking

00:19:24.460 for coming out of the days of thunder number one on Monday afternoon? What executive orders, what moves

00:19:30.700 from Trump 2.0 are you looking for to give you comfort that it's heading directionally in the right

00:19:37.580 direction? Well, for certain, we're going to see something banning the import of critical energy

00:19:43.580 producing components in the bulk electricity grid. That's going to come back. That should have,

00:19:48.700 it was rescinded and revoked by Biden on day one. That's got to come back and it will come back.

00:19:53.100 I think we're going to see some action on baseload energy being supported by this government through

00:19:58.780 executive orders. The fact of shutting down coal plants, nuclear plants, and even gas plants that

00:20:05.740 can produce power 24 hours a day is a disaster on a net electrification basis,

00:20:12.140 especially when you're attempting to replace them with stuff that runs solar 25% of the time,

00:20:17.260 wind maybe 32% of the time. You wind up with a massive deficit that we're now in as electrification

00:20:25.180 growth needs to be 3% to 5% to keep up with demand for power. Here in the last five years,

00:20:31.580 we've grown electrification by only 0.6% per year. We're in a huge hole on necessary electrification to

00:20:39.100 participate in both the new economy. So I think we're going to see executive orders pushing us

00:20:46.380 in a direction of nothing but baseload power. By the way, the new governor of West Virginia is all

00:20:51.020 about Morrissey for his state. We can only build the power plants that run all of the time or a majority

00:20:57.180 of the time in West Virginia. He's a leader on this. I hope he's involved with helping shape federal policies,

00:21:03.260 because I think the incentives will also be under attack and wanting neutrality. Here,

00:21:11.100 Wyden mentioned neutrality. You got fuel neutrality if you don't incentivize anything. Wind, solar,

00:21:17.820 battery storage should not be incented. Period. Hard stop. Nothing needs incented. 42 billion a year is

00:21:25.660 way too much money spent on actually negative energy value equipment. I think we're going to see some high

00:21:31.980 pressure on that through executive order also. The beginning to pull back, desire to pull back on

00:21:38.060 incenting and therefore hiding the true cost of these massively expensive energy sources.

00:21:43.420 Even Carter in his formation of the DOE was all about efficiency. You only promote efficiency when

00:21:50.380 the naked cost of energy is visible to consumers. When you hide it through incentives, this stuff is

00:21:55.820 five to six times more costly, solar and wind, you're not promoting efficient use of energy. So I think

00:22:01.740 we're going to see some pressure on that as well.

00:22:06.380 And you believe that the radical new direction in energy policy will be the foundational element

00:22:15.260 of President Trump's economic revival of the United States?

00:22:19.100 It has to be. If it's not, we're going to have a weak economic revival. We've got to be all over

00:22:25.100 disincenting part-time energy sources, not just wind, but also solar, which is a capacity factor thing of

00:22:35.340 about 24 percent, therefore costs five to six times more than natural gas combined cycle than coal-fired

00:22:42.940 power. We've got to get back on track with also disincenting that and getting the EPA out of making

00:22:50.220 draconian rulings, which they made another one even after the SCOTUS ruling on the Clean Power Plan

00:22:55.900 was stricken. The EPA has come back now with wanting to shut down gas and coal plants by 2035.

00:23:03.100 So that's got to be turned around. I think it will be turned around by the new Trump EPA, clearly.

00:23:10.380 We've got to have the gas plants running. We've got to have the coal plants running,

00:23:13.740 because they run all the time. We need electrification that runs all of the time.

00:23:20.060 You saw Lee Zeldin today, just magnificent over the EPA audience. I'll be very proud of the work

00:23:24.460 you did, because the team that you're putting on the field is very impressive. Dave Walsh.

00:23:28.940 Great job.

00:23:29.500 I think one day before too long, you may be part of that team. Big announcements,

00:23:34.140 I think, coming on Dave Walsh. Dave, where do people go on your social media?

00:23:38.060 Well, find me on True Social, Getter and X at Dave Walsh Energy. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate the forum.

00:23:42.860 Thank you. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Appreciate you coming on and staying up with us.

00:23:48.940 New York Times is breaking about Zuckerberg. This is about meeting with President Trump and

00:23:53.180 Zuckerberg, getting ready to sign the surrender document. It said, Zuckerberg signaled to Mr.

00:23:59.820 Miller and his colleagues, including other senior Trump advisors, that he, Zuckerberg,

00:24:06.620 would do nothing to obstruct the Trump agenda, according to three people with knowledge of

00:24:13.580 this meeting, who asked for anonymity to discuss a private conversation. Mr. Zuckerberg said he would

00:24:22.300 instead focus solely on building tech products. Let me repeat this. That Zuckerberg signaled to Mr.

00:24:31.420 Miller and his colleagues, including other senior Trump advisors, that, wait for it,

00:24:37.180 wait for it, he would do nothing to obstruct the Trump agenda.

00:24:44.700 He would solely focus his business on building tech products. That's a full surrender.

00:24:49.900 You should look at that podium on Monday like the deck of the battleship Missouri in Tokyo Harbor in

00:25:00.620 September of 1945. They're there essentially to sign a surrender document. Look, I realize we've got

00:25:06.860 issues with oligarchs, there's no doubt. A chasm in their beliefs and the populist nationals' beliefs,

00:25:12.380 the chasm in what they think is right and what the people think is right. But you've got to take it,

00:25:18.220 it's a process. Think about this for a second. He's going to have lined up and back on them. It's

00:25:25.100 like the Japanese on the deck of the Missouri. They're ready to sign the surrender document.

00:25:29.500 New York Times are reporting Zuckerberg's already kowtowed. They broke Zuckerberg. Now,

00:25:35.100 Zuckerberg, you can run, but you can't hide. You're a criminal. You're a criminal. You were one of the 1.00

00:25:42.460 big reasons the 2020 election was stolen and you knew exactly what you were doing and you knew where you

00:25:47.660 had to do it. So you can write all the million dollar checks you want. You can be as obsequious

00:25:52.460 as you want. You can sit there a million times and say, we're not going to obstruct the agenda.

00:25:56.540 You're certainly not going to obstruct it since you've surrendered. Mark Zuckerberg sees a broken

00:26:02.780 man. Just look at him. Growing out now. He's a, you know, he's, he's cosplaying a UFC fighter. That's his new

00:26:12.140 fantasy. This is the mess that the Democrats have left Trump. A financial mess, a mess about kinetic

00:26:24.700 wars in the Eurasian landmass, a mess of 12 to 15 million illegal alien invaders. Think about this. 0.98

00:26:31.260 I get your head around that. Think about it. Every aspect you look at, a disaster and a mess.

00:26:37.580 And now with limited alternatives because of this debt and the deficit, the ticking time bomb of it

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00:30:54.220 I want to ask you about Speaker Johnson because he fired Republican Mike Turner, who's the chair of

00:31:00.700 the House Intel Committee, and he cited concerns from Mar-a-Lago. It is important for our audience

00:31:06.460 to know if they're not familiar with him. Johnson is one of the staunchest advocates in support of Ukraine.

00:31:13.100 And now he's out. What does that tell you? Turner, excuse me.

00:31:17.340 Right. Right. Well, yes. So Mike Turner said that when Mike, Mike Johnson, the speaker,

00:31:22.780 kicked him out as the chair of the Intelligence Committee, that he cited essentially that this

00:31:29.900 was Trump's orders or the Mar-a-Lago's orders. You know, Mike Turner is a traditional Republican.

00:31:35.900 He's a national security guy. He's really big on Ukraine aid. He supports the intelligence agencies.

00:31:41.980 He supports the FISA collection of of records from terrorists abroad that some that some oppose

00:31:51.900 from the sort of the right in the House. And so he's out of step with the MAGA wing of the party.

00:31:59.020 And so this is another victory for Donald Trump and the MAGA wing. And it showed we're going to

00:32:03.820 probably find out tomorrow who Mike Johnson is going to replace Mike Turner with. But if it is somebody

00:32:10.140 more from that America first wing of the party, you can see exactly what they're trying to do with

00:32:14.940 the Intelligence Committee. Mr. Speaker, do you have any comment on why did you remove

00:32:20.220 Mike Turner as Intel chief? It's a new Congress. We're just fresh horses in some of these places.

00:32:27.420 But I'm a Mike Turner fan. He's done a great job. He performed valiantly in a difficult time under

00:32:34.940 difficult circumstances. So I have nothing but positive things to say about my friend.

00:32:38.460 Did Trump have any opinion on that? This is not a President Trump decision. This is a House

00:32:46.700 decision. And this is no slight whatsoever to our outgoing chairman. He did a great job.

00:32:54.940 But we just the intelligence community and everything related to HIPC is it needs a fresh

00:33:01.980 start. And that's what this is about. Nothing else. So I have nothing negative to say about Mike Turner at

00:33:06.220 all. He's a good man, a good colleague. I respect his work. He's going to continue to be my appointee

00:33:13.500 with everything regarding the NATO. And they're hosting a big summit, so to speak, of the NATO in

00:33:21.500 his district in Dayton coming up. And he will continue to be the face and the voice for us in Congress

00:33:28.700 to our NATO allies about paying their dues and doing what they need to do. And he's very effective at that.

00:33:33.180 So busy every second of today, I'm going to get the full read up. Thank you.

00:33:49.100 Okay, fresh horses. That's an interesting way to say it. I don't think any individual has worked

00:33:57.020 harder on this on the removal of Mike Turner as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee

00:34:05.500 than Brian Costello. Brian, you've had two in your gun sights, this and Sequoia Capital.

00:34:12.060 Neil Shen. Get to that later. Talk to me about why is it logical for Turner not to make the traveling

00:34:20.300 squad with Tulsi Gabbard, Ratcliffe, President Trump, and what he's trying to do to reorganize

00:34:25.740 Kash Patel to reorganize the intelligence services, sir?

00:34:31.020 Listen, Steve, I think we saw how important this committee is, right? The House Intelligence

00:34:35.580 Committee was the one place when Trump was in president last time and had the IC weaponized

00:34:41.500 against him, was the one place under Nunes with Kash, Colonel Harvey, Colonel Pappas, Rich Higgins,

00:34:47.740 that stood up and actually brought to the American public what was going on there, right? So I think

00:34:54.060 it's an extremely important committee. And as he goes into RD&I, Ratcliffe into CIA, Hegseth into the

00:35:02.140 military, and I think it's extremely important that Trump has an ally there who works with those agencies

00:35:09.740 for the appropriate oversight, runs cover for the things that's happened in the past and the

00:35:13.420 investigations. And Turner showed clearly he was not that guy. From day one, he walked the Russia

00:35:19.660 hoax investigation team. For American heroes, like, I don't believe the country would be where it is

00:35:25.660 today without Nunes and his team. You know, he walked them, perp walked them out the door like they

00:35:31.980 were criminals. He started, you know, supporting Ukraine. He wanted no reforms on FISA. You know,

00:35:39.100 people don't know this, but the first Mayorkas impeachment, the first time they went to move

00:35:43.660 forward with the Mayorkas impeachment, he voted against it. He flip-flopped the second time.

00:35:48.380 You know, and here's a guy who's being briefed with all the national security threats that are

00:35:52.540 coming into the country at a level no one else is, and he's still supporting the administration.

00:35:57.420 So it's nice to see Speaker Johnson make a move on this. It's a shame it had to come from

00:36:02.620 Mar-a-Lago and that he didn't do it directly himself. Um, but, but it puts, puts the country

00:36:08.380 in a much better position now with Rick Crawford taking the helm there.

00:36:14.380 Okay. Well, you look at the, um, the training ground of what the House Intelligence Committee was

00:36:21.500 when we won the, um, White House in 16, uh, Pompeo, I think was chairman or going to be sure. He went to

00:36:28.060 CIA right away. Obviously that did not work out, but Nunez took over. Nunez had his chief

00:36:35.260 investigator was, um, was Colonel Derek Harvey, who you're very familiar with us on the show,

00:36:40.700 uh, audience. Cash Patel was the general counsel. He had, you know, it's Sergeant. He had Rich Higgins,

00:36:47.660 who eventually came over and laid out in a memo of the entire deep state and how they were trying

00:36:51.580 to take down President Trump. And he had Pappas. He had the four best. When Turner took over,

00:36:56.620 he essentially perp walked out the staff that Nunez had left there that were on top of things.

00:37:02.460 The only reason that the, that, that shifty shift in these guys, Ryan, as Speaker of the House,

00:37:09.740 made Nunez recuse himself because Nunez had come over to the White House one time,

00:37:15.020 one time he made him recuse himself. This was, this was Paul Ryan because he wanted Trump nailed,

00:37:21.580 right? He had Trey Gowdy then step into the breach and Trey Gowdy just stood down,

00:37:27.660 had Cash and all those guys stand down. They turned the committee over to shifty shift in Swalwell.

00:37:34.780 And I got, I don't know, 30 hours of testimony in front of those guys in a skiff in a, in a star

00:37:39.500 chamber with Don McGahn and Reince Priebus and many others. Okay. Trying to nail President Trump,

00:37:45.900 trying to nail President Trump, 100% trying to nail President Trump. That's what went on here.

00:37:53.900 And Turner took that team, that battle hardened team that was in place and got rid of them. Why

00:37:59.580 did he get rid of them? He agrees with the Democrats. He had to go. And I think this is heroic.

00:38:06.540 I don't know who convinced Speaker Johnson was President Trump or others around this kind of new

00:38:13.020 reformulated intelligence community you've got with Tulsi Gabbard's going to come on board.

00:38:18.300 You've got Radcliffe, you have others advising the president, but it's a new day. Is it not Brian

00:38:25.620 Costello? Yeah. If you look at Turner, it's, it's one, it's amazing that McCarthy put him in there in

00:38:32.220 the first place, right? His Liberty score ratings of 40%. He votes with 42, 43%. He votes with Democrats

00:38:40.380 more of the time. This is one of the more powerful positions. And we had the gavel with the house,

00:38:45.020 right? So, and we know the intelligence community had, uh, you know, abused things trying to change

00:38:51.420 the election back in 2016, trying to remove Trump when he was in office. And here you have the gavel.

00:38:57.180 It's one of the more powerful positions. And you've got a guy, you know, with one of the,

00:39:01.260 one of, if not the lowest Liberty score ratings, uh, in there, you know, who takes the staff that's

00:39:07.420 highly valuable, that had a lot of experience working with Durham and everybody else and removes

00:39:12.460 them, shuts down a China investigation. Who's looking at how the business community is using

00:39:17.740 China to influence Washington and the intelligence community is doing nothing about it. You know, 0.78

00:39:23.100 where, you know, the president and his son fall into the, into that realm, shuts down that

00:39:28.540 investigation. And, you know, every single thing he did, I mean, Hakeem Jeffries is out with a note

00:39:34.220 today, upset that he's leaving. Adam Schiff's just on MSNBC, praising the guy, saying it's a huge

00:39:40.700 mistake, letting them go. You talk, you couldn't, you couldn't, you couldn't have a better, uh,

00:39:45.500 commercial that writes itself for why he should be removed.

00:39:48.700 Yeah. No. Yeah. Uh, before I let you go, uh, tick tock Sequoia capital, Neil Shen,

00:39:55.820 uh, latest on your investigation of that. Do you think that's going to get any traction?

00:40:00.700 You know, we'll see the tick tock CEOs purportedly at the, uh, inauguration. So it's supposed to be

00:40:06.380 shut down over the weekend. You know, I know that, um, you know, we're all capitalists. We'd like to see

00:40:12.540 people make money off it and we'd like to see it in hands and the businesses that still run off it. I know

00:40:17.100 Trump's focused on that, but this is a, this is a dangerous tool. Senator Cotton came out ripping

00:40:22.860 today. The Democrats trying to delay the shutdown. Uh, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see what happens.

00:40:28.700 We'll see, uh, you know, who has the courage to, to confront this. If Shen gets removed from the

00:40:34.140 board of directors, you know, we, we still have a problem in that we have a lot of capitalists who

00:40:39.740 don't see the economic warfare and it's not a competition that's happening with China.

00:40:43.740 And we need to make sure in the new administration, we confront that and we win on every single front.

00:40:51.500 Were you impressed? We saw the aggressive nature of, um, Marco Rubio as secretary of state in his

00:40:57.580 hearings and Scott Besant at treasury, sir.

00:41:01.340 I was Steve, you know, uh, people I've never told this story before, but one of the first

00:41:05.260 Senate offices I went to on the Sequoia side was Marco Rubio's and his former press secretary was

00:41:11.260 very, very helpful in terms of, you know, putting some stuff around Congress and everything else,

00:41:16.540 which eventually, you know, the national security council did for Sequoia to separate from its China

00:41:20.860 arms. So I think he understands the threat very, very well. I thought he was terrific. I thought

00:41:25.820 Scott Besant laying out the energy, I think Hegseth bringing technology into the military. It looks,

00:41:31.740 looks very promising here. So we still got some work to do, but you know,

00:41:35.580 one question I do have though, is, you know, is Turner's given that Turner's out, you know, he, uh,

00:41:43.020 Lee Smith did a nice piece in tab of magazine talking about how he's boasting about how he's,

00:41:47.980 this was just a week ago. He was boasting about how he was taking over Trump's intelligence community,

00:41:52.380 you know, and his chief of staff, Adam Howard. And I hope Mike Waltz, you know, who's made some

00:41:57.420 good announcements there is going over, uh, Turner's chief of staff, Adam Howard is going over

00:42:03.180 supposedly to run Intel oversight and advise the president on the national security council.

00:42:07.900 I hope that's the right move.

00:42:12.300 Um, where do people get you amazing information? And by the way, congratulations on

00:42:18.540 Turner being the former head of HIPSI. Uh, where do people go to get to your social media?

00:42:24.620 Yeah, Steve, fortunately there was a lot of, a lot of, a lot of content. Even when you went on your

00:42:28.780 sabbatical, we were, we were, we were, we were still on it. So the doofus from Dayton can now have

00:42:33.900 the NATO summits in Dayton, uh, which is, which is ironic. That's where he's, he's focused now, but,

00:42:39.660 uh, uh, Twitter BP, uh, on X BP Costello.

00:42:45.980 Brian Costello. Thank you very much, sir.

00:42:47.580 Yeah, thank you.

00:42:49.020 Turner, big, big move today. Really want to thank Colonel Derek Harvey and Turner for being on this one.

00:42:55.340 Like a dog on a bone for about the last year and a half, just relentless. And Turner had to go.

00:43:00.780 It was a, uh, a great, fantastic move. The House Intelligence Committee, very, very powerful,

00:43:06.460 one of the most powerful committees in the, uh, in the entire house. Uh, I'm gonna get to pardons

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00:44:18.620 on what just happened over, I think, on MSNBC about, uh, blanket preempt, blanket preemptive

00:44:25.020 pardons. Let's take a listen. And it's still the president. Merrick Garland is still the attorney

00:44:29.420 general. It's Thursday and they've got till noon on Monday. What can be done to protect the rule of

00:44:35.260 law in those three days? Well, Joe Biden and nobody really agrees with this, but I'm going to say it

00:44:41.900 anyway. Joe Biden still has the power to pardon people. And we've heard from Pam Bondi now. We

00:44:47.340 heard from her saying in that there's a lot she didn't say. There's a lot she refused to say,

00:44:52.140 right? Things like refusing to even commit to preserve records. I mean, these are not gotcha

00:44:56.620 questions. These were very, these were softball questions. Um, but there was a lot she said. She

00:45:01.740 said DOJ is weaponized. She said the special prosecutors are abused. She said Trump has been targeted since

00:45:08.700 2016. And then she didn't recant or back away at all from that comment of prosecutors,

00:45:15.100 the bad ones being prosecuted and investigate the investigators. So you have somebody who's coming

00:45:19.980 into DOJ and, you know, far from being somebody to say, I'm going to lead you and have your back.

00:45:25.980 You've got a target on your back. So, you know, with somebody coming in like that, yeah,

00:45:32.140 if that doesn't justify a pardon from the president in the few days we have to say, hey, we, we know

00:45:38.460 you're going to go after and have some vindictive prosecution against people like Jack Smith,

00:45:43.420 like Merrick Garland, like Liz Cheney, who did nothing wrong. And we know you're going to do it.

00:45:48.380 Now, look, maybe they don't want one and that's fine, but we know what's coming. She was very clear

00:45:54.300 about it for anybody that watched it. So if you know that that's wrong, why not use the tools that

00:46:00.140 you have available to you? Why not use that pardon power? And I hear people say, well, you know,

00:46:04.460 that's against the norms, but, but there are no norms. They're going to shatter the whole thing.

00:46:13.100 Okay. You see it right there. Think about that for a second. All the, all the crimes they've committed

00:46:19.420 in these, in these apparatuses and they know it. They know it right there. They say, hey,

00:46:26.460 Pam Bondi. And remember, half of Pam's confirmation hearing was really about cash Patel and government

00:46:33.820 gangsters and cash put together the list of who was in the deep state. They're in meltdown.

00:46:37.740 They're going to be coming for cash. And, you know, you have the flood, the zone strategy,

00:46:42.620 and then you have kind of the Alinsky where they can kind of come from the herd cash. They're

00:46:47.820 going to hold cash back until, you know, they haven't, they've gotten all the major

00:46:53.580 confirmation done. Then they're going to let him go. They're going to say, well,

00:46:55.980 he's not really cabinet level, although the one they fear is FBI. So it makes no sense logically,

00:47:02.940 but this is what they're going to do to try to destroy cash. Don't, we're not home by a long

00:47:07.420 stretch. First of all, we don't have any confirmation vote. We don't have any committee vote.

00:47:10.860 Remember the process. Got to be the, um, the committee in charge, right? The convening committee,

00:47:17.020 the committee of kind of record, which they, uh, they, they report to because it's the balance,

00:47:22.620 the separation of powers that has to vote first. So cash, um, you know, and cash goes to judiciary

00:47:32.220 because the FBI is considered part of the, or it is part of the justice department, but right there,

00:47:38.140 you're in full meltdown. Oh, you got to give pardons. Look what she said. I thought what she said

00:47:44.540 was pretty straightforward. I'll follow the law and I don't come up with any pre, uh,

00:47:49.660 disposed, uh, opinions. I'm gonna look at this with a fresh set of eyes and look at facts and

00:47:55.820 look at evidence. I thought she was, I thought she was very extremely even handed. She's certainly

00:48:00.060 no Matt Gates. Matt Gates would come and breathe in fire. And Pam may be even as, as effective or 1.00

00:48:08.860 maybe even more effective. She's got kind of a way about her, the way she lays things out.

00:48:14.540 Comes across as very open, a kind of an open book, very straightforward, not cunning, nothing to hide.

00:48:22.300 But I'll raise her testimony. Go back. Don't take it from me. Think about when you were watching it

00:48:27.740 or go pull some clips tonight off YouTube and just watch it with your own eyes.

00:48:31.100 And that's caused them to, and go and do the clips. Maybe I'll get Grace to put some up.

00:48:39.420 But when Pam was talking about this, because they hammered her over and over and over again

00:48:44.460 about the 2020 election and about this, that's why I say half of the confirmation here was about,

00:48:49.420 really about Kash Patel. You watch it with your own eyes. See what you think.

00:48:57.340 Would it cause you to have complete and total meltdown? What's caused them to have total and

00:49:02.700 complete meltdown? And then you gotta ask why. And now they're sitting there going, hey, it's,

00:49:07.660 you know, you got a couple of days, you got Friday, Saturday, Sunday, until noon on Monday.

00:49:13.180 They need pardons. Cheney, Liz Cheney needs a pardon. Benny Thompson needs a pardon. 1.00

00:49:19.580 Jack Smith needs a pardon. The career prosecutors need a pardon. They need pardons. They get,

00:49:26.140 they're fearful. They feel like they got targets on their back.

00:49:30.220 Didn't do anything wrong. Should you should sleep well at night? I don't know. If you're

00:49:36.300 part of the weaponization of government, you're probably going to toss and turn. And you should

00:49:42.460 toss and turn. I think Pam's going to be pretty relentless. And I strongly recommend what Fenton said

00:49:50.060 the other day, a special prosecutor, a special counsel, whatever they call today, has to be designated.

00:49:55.420 I think it ought to report to the White House. We have to show them on this theory of the constant,

00:50:01.340 the concentration of the executive. It has to happen. We're going to get into more on this tomorrow.

00:50:10.860 Christy Noem will go tomorrow. Maybe we'll jump in and start with her tomorrow on the fourth day. 1.00

00:50:16.460 Just incredible. Folks, what a run. You should be very proud. Your work has been well worth it.

00:50:23.580 You're seeing the beginning phase. Remember, I said it's going to be executive orders. It's going to be laws

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